Rebel News Podcast - CBC takes the side of unelected Indian chiefs illegally protesting a natural gas pipeline

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I take you through a rare piece of good news in the battle for oil and gas.

00:00:04.980 It's a court ruling issued by a judge in B.C. a couple of days ago,

00:00:09.420 commanding some rogue Indian activists to get out of the way of a natural gas pipeline project.

00:00:17.400 But what's so interesting, even more interesting than that, is how the C.B.C. obscures the truth,

00:00:24.800 hides the key facts from you all. I'll give you those key facts.

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00:00:58.520 Tonight, rogue, unelected Indian chiefs illegally protest a natural gas pipeline.

00:01:10.080 And guess whose side the C.B.C. takes.

00:01:13.060 It's January 2nd, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:15.880 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:21.660 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:25.740 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:31.580 Look at this headline in the C.B.C. today.

00:01:40.100 B.C. Supreme Court grants injunction against Wet'suwet'en protesters in pipeline standoff.

00:01:46.860 And then the sub-headline says, ruling gives RCMP mandate to enforce order related to Coastal Gas Link Project.

00:01:55.640 Let me read a little bit from the story.

00:01:57.600 A B.C. Supreme Court judge has issued an injunction against members of the Wet'suwet'en nation

00:02:02.860 who have blocked access to a natural gas pipeline project inside their traditional territory in northern B.C.

00:02:10.440 Justice Marguerite Church granted Coastal Gas Link's application for an interlocutory injunction in a Prince George courtroom on Tuesday,

00:02:19.380 restraining protesters from barring workers from getting through their checkpoints along a remote logging road near Houston, B.C.

00:02:27.580 So just to slow down for a moment, Coastal Gas Link is the pipeline company that's building a natural gas pipe

00:02:34.300 from the B.C. interior to the coast, where it will then be shipped to customers, probably in Asia, on those big LNG tankers.

00:02:44.560 That stands for liquefied natural gas.

00:02:48.180 Natural gas, as you probably know, is the cleanest burning fossil fuel, if you're worried about that sort of thing.

00:02:54.240 And environmentalists say they are.

00:02:56.340 So this LNG project isn't just great for jobs in Canada.

00:02:59.380 It also displaces more polluting sources of power in Asia, like Chinese coal-fired power plants.

00:03:07.960 Same in Korea, Taiwan, Japan.

00:03:10.940 And here's the thing about natural gas.

00:03:12.760 Both in its gaseous state and in its liquefied state, well, unlike oil, you can't really have a spill.

00:03:20.600 It's gas, so it just mists into the air.

00:03:23.860 There has never in history been a catastrophic LNG tanker accident.

00:03:28.220 Never once.

00:03:29.380 But even if there would be, God forbid, it's not going to be like the Exxon Valdez,

00:03:34.120 where the oil mucks up the beach and, you know, gets ducks covered.

00:03:38.900 I mean, God forbid, if there were an accident, and may there never be one,

00:03:43.120 well, the natural gas would just evaporate.

00:03:47.080 So what's the objection to it again?

00:03:49.440 It replaces higher carbon coal-fired power plants in Asia.

00:03:53.200 And coal also has particulate pollution, as in when you burn coal, it releases more carbon dioxide than natural gas,

00:04:01.180 but also little particles in it.

00:04:04.320 Pollution, that's where smog comes from, right?

00:04:06.880 So you've got clean-burning natural gas from Canada replacing coal in Asia.

00:04:13.640 How's that not a win-win?

00:04:15.280 You've got a brand-new, state-of-the-art, ultra-safe pipeline being built.

00:04:20.320 And God forbid, again, if anything goes wrong with the pipeline or the ship, there's no environmental impact.

00:04:26.360 It's natural gas.

00:04:27.560 There's not going to be a spill.

00:04:30.860 And what I've learned from studying the oil sands, and pretty much every logging and mining project in Canada,

00:04:36.120 is that it's a disproportionate employer of Aboriginal people, because that's who's living up there.

00:04:44.000 And a lot of the jobs, surveying, clearing brush, truck driving, are skills that Aboriginal communities can quickly provide.

00:04:52.500 Now, we all want the Aboriginal community, especially northern reserves and towns,

00:04:57.640 to be brimming with Aboriginal doctors and lawyers, and I hope that day comes soon.

00:05:03.440 But if you really want to give real jobs to those communities now,

00:05:07.300 and have those young people successfully fill those positions,

00:05:11.000 there couldn't be a better fit than natural resources projects looking for skilled and semi-skilled workers.

00:05:17.760 Lots of on-the-job training.

00:05:19.480 I've seen it with my own eyes in the oil sands,

00:05:21.720 so it's absolutely no surprise to me that a disproportionate number of employees on this big pipeline project

00:05:28.340 are local Aboriginal men and women.

00:05:31.520 By the way, there's not a lot of jobs up there.

00:05:34.220 But I'm reading to you from a CBC story that says an Indian community is so dead set against this pipeline,

00:05:43.460 they have to be ordered by the court to get out of the way.

00:05:46.560 Well, so which is it?

00:05:47.500 Do the local Indian communities support this pipeline and the jobs from it?

00:05:53.620 And are there benefit agreements?

00:05:56.000 Or are there outright grants for everything from displaced hunters and trappers

00:06:00.040 to sponsorships of Aboriginal cultural events?

00:06:02.720 So which is it?

00:06:03.460 Whose side are the Indians on? 0.98

00:06:05.260 Well, the CBC knows.

00:06:06.440 Wet'suwet'en Nation members, Frida Hewson and Hereditary Chief Smogeljem,

00:06:14.480 the two named defendants in the action,

00:06:17.440 had argued the checkpoints are legal under Wet'suwet'en law

00:06:21.000 because the company doesn't have permission from the head chief of the dark house,

00:06:27.060 hereditary house group,

00:06:29.860 to enter or pass through their territory.

00:06:32.560 The judge rejected that.

00:06:34.280 Let me read some more.

00:06:34.860 The defendants may genuinely believe in their rights under Indigenous law

00:06:40.300 to prevent the plaintiff from entering dark house territory,

00:06:44.280 but the law does not recognize any right to blockade and obstruct the plaintiff

00:06:47.680 from pursuing lawfully authorized activities, Church wrote.

00:06:51.600 The judge said the company has all the necessary permits and authorizations

00:06:54.740 and had met the legal test for an injunction.

00:06:58.300 Fourteen people were arrested in January 2019

00:07:00.440 when RCMP moved in to enforce the interim injunction order.

00:07:04.860 Now, I kept reading this story.

00:07:06.240 You can see it's a big story.

00:07:08.080 But it wasn't until the tenth paragraph down, I counted,

00:07:12.320 that I discovered that, in fact,

00:07:15.880 every single Indian band in the area,

00:07:20.020 every single one that elects its members,

00:07:23.800 they all want this pipeline built.

00:07:29.220 Every one of them.

00:07:30.140 Let me quote.

00:07:32.120 This is from paragraph 10.

00:07:34.120 The company says it has signed agreements

00:07:36.680 with all 20 elected First Nations councils along the pipeline route.

00:07:41.440 But hereditary chiefs in the Wet'suwet'en First Nations say

00:07:45.040 the project has no authority without their consent.

00:07:48.840 Hang on.

00:07:49.400 So you've got 20 elected First Nations councils,

00:07:53.100 but someone who says they should have political power

00:07:57.560 because of who their ancestors were?

00:08:00.240 The CBC puts them front and center in the story

00:08:03.540 and hides the fact that all 20 elected councils love this pipeline.

00:08:08.180 This is a very long story,

00:08:10.900 but not a single Indian chief or council member

00:08:14.520 or even just an ordinary status Indian 0.98

00:08:16.360 who supports this pipeline,

00:08:18.460 not a single one of them could be found

00:08:21.060 to comment in favor of this pipeline?

00:08:23.180 Or is it that not a single one of them

00:08:24.980 was even asked to comment?

00:08:27.180 The CBC author here is named Bethany Lindsay,

00:08:30.940 and I think she's the whitest woman in Canada 1.00

00:08:34.700 other than people who suffer from albinism.

00:08:38.840 And she knows that the good kind of Indians

00:08:41.780 from the CBC point of view

00:08:43.320 are the ones who fight against oil and gas pipeline companies

00:08:46.640 and the bad kind of Indians in the CBC's point of view.

00:08:51.000 Well, I guess all 20 out of 20 Indian bands along the way

00:08:53.480 are the bad kind of Indians. 1.00

00:08:55.200 So Bethany Lindsay, who I don't know,

00:08:58.460 sees herself as some sort of great albino liberator

00:09:01.580 like Daenerys Targaryen or something,

00:09:04.440 she knows whose side she's on.

00:09:06.440 She's the great liberator who knows better 0.94

00:09:08.520 for Aboriginal people than they know for themselves.

00:09:11.120 That's why she mentions the law-breaking cranks by name

00:09:15.780 and champions them in the story

00:09:17.980 and ignores any Aboriginal person

00:09:20.980 who she disagrees with who loves this pipeline.

00:09:23.980 Is that bigotry?

00:09:25.020 You're damn straight it's bigotry.

00:09:27.800 Well, look, if your only source of information

00:09:29.860 is the CBC, you're going to have a very limited

00:09:33.280 and twisted view of the world.

00:09:35.140 So I actually went and read the court ruling myself.

00:09:40.400 Can I read a few facts from it

00:09:42.240 that Khaleesi Bethany Lindsay 1.00

00:09:44.280 didn't think were important enough to put in her story?

00:09:48.100 Let me quote, I'm just going to quote from the lawsuit here.

00:09:51.080 This is the court order, the judgment.

00:09:54.720 The estimated cost to build the export facility

00:09:57.320 and the pipeline project is approximately $40 billion.

00:10:03.780 Oh, just that, just that.

00:10:06.140 The plaintiff has entered,

00:10:07.120 the plaintiff being Coastal GasLink,

00:10:08.920 has entered into long-term transportation service agreements

00:10:11.900 with LNG Canada Joint Venture Participants

00:10:14.160 and it is estimated that the plaintiff,

00:10:16.140 that's the pipeline company,

00:10:17.760 will spend approximately $6.2 billion

00:10:21.340 to implement the pipeline project.

00:10:23.180 Oh, oh, just $40 billion, just $6 billion for the pipe.

00:10:27.960 I thought journalism was about who, what, why, where, when,

00:10:31.560 you know, giving you the basic facts.

00:10:33.440 That's a pretty big what to leave out of the story,

00:10:36.240 don't you think?

00:10:37.600 Now here's from the court ruling again.

00:10:39.060 Here's outlining the benefits of the pipeline.

00:10:42.100 Those benefits are expected to include

00:10:44.040 A, creation of approximately 2,500 jobs

00:10:47.340 during peak construction on the pipeline project

00:10:50.140 and a total of approximately 10,000 jobs

00:10:52.820 during peak construction across the export facility,

00:10:56.100 the pipeline project, and associated upstream development.

00:10:59.800 B, substantial federal, provincial, and local, municipal,

00:11:02.380 and regional tax revenue.

00:11:04.660 C, long-term financial benefits

00:11:06.540 to the 20 indigenous bands along the pipeline project route

00:11:09.720 as a result of project benefit agreements

00:11:11.780 forecast to total more than $338 million

00:11:14.740 cumulatively over the life of the pipeline project.

00:11:18.940 D, contracting and employment opportunities

00:11:21.460 in proximity to the pipeline project,

00:11:23.380 including more than $620 million in contract work

00:11:25.840 to indigenous businesses for upcoming construction

00:11:28.460 and additional opportunities for indigenous

00:11:30.280 and local businesses expected in total

00:11:32.320 approximately $400 million.

00:11:35.060 And E, investment to support community programs,

00:11:38.100 events, and provide training and educational opportunities

00:11:40.320 to local communities and First Nations.

00:11:45.240 This is the best thing that has ever happened

00:11:47.640 to these 20 Indian bands.

00:11:50.500 But forget about money.

00:11:51.540 How about Aboriginal rights?

00:11:53.740 How about some of the Indians who actually want to work 1.00

00:11:56.120 and signed a deal?

00:11:58.660 They don't want to just protest on behalf

00:12:00.440 of some American-funded environmentalist group.

00:12:02.200 They actually want to build their future.

00:12:03.380 Well, the court heard from them,

00:12:05.500 even if the CBC's Bethany Lindsay silenced them.

00:12:08.880 There are a number of examples in the court ruling,

00:12:11.680 but I just want to take the time to read from one of them.

00:12:14.340 Ready? Here's from the court ruling.

00:12:16.260 Troy Young, a Wet'suwet'en person, 1.00

00:12:20.380 descendant of hereditary chief Namox

00:12:23.600 of the Tsaiyu beaver clan,

00:12:27.180 is the general manager and director of Kaya Resources, Inc.,

00:12:31.080 a company owned by a Witsit First Nation Limited Partnership

00:12:34.420 and a Wet'suwet'en member-owned company.

00:12:38.860 So they're Indians.

00:12:40.960 Kaya Resources, Inc. has a contract to provide work,

00:12:44.280 including clearing, heli logging, road building, security,

00:12:50.220 and first aid services in Section 8 of the pipeline project.

00:12:54.000 Mr. Young, who's an Indian member of the band,

00:12:57.600 deposed that.

00:12:58.320 Kaya has a direct connection to the local First Nation community.

00:13:04.460 In addition to local employment opportunities

00:13:06.440 through Witsit's ownership interest in Kaya,

00:13:09.320 a portion of the company's profits

00:13:10.800 can be expected to go to the local community.

00:13:14.060 A delay in construction of the project

00:13:15.820 would have a severe impact on the local Wet'suwet'en community 1.00

00:13:18.240 and the Wet'suwet'en people. 0.99

00:13:20.580 A substantial number of local First Nations persons

00:13:22.720 are expecting to be employed,

00:13:24.960 to perform work related to the project.

00:13:27.120 These jobs would be well-paying

00:13:29.180 and could provide a means of supporting

00:13:30.880 further economic development in the community

00:13:32.720 by providing access to valuable skills training

00:13:35.400 that would positively affect how people live in the community.

00:13:39.560 The project provides a real opportunity

00:13:41.820 for positive change in the community.

00:13:45.000 Now this is from the court ruling,

00:13:46.620 because the CBC's not going to tell you this.

00:13:48.320 The court ruling has several stories like this.

00:13:51.380 Real Indian band members

00:13:53.460 hiring real Indian band members.

00:13:56.380 These are legal terms under the Indian Act.

00:13:59.480 These are people who vote for Indian bands,

00:14:01.540 and the bands themselves approved all this,

00:14:03.860 and these are entrepreneurs.

00:14:05.040 They have been un-personed

00:14:06.980 by the whitest woman at the CBC.

00:14:11.020 There are a few points to learn from this, I think.

00:14:13.080 The first and most obvious

00:14:14.160 is that you just can't trust the CBC.

00:14:17.980 They are damned liars.

00:14:19.040 You can't trust the network of,

00:14:22.980 well, what's the CBC?

00:14:25.420 They hire the registered anti-oil-sans lobbyist,

00:14:28.580 David Suzuki.

00:14:30.000 You can't trust them to tell you the truth

00:14:31.860 about oil and gas pipelines.

00:14:33.100 They lie, or they deceived, as they did here.

00:14:36.700 20 out of 20 Indian bands along the group

00:14:38.860 want this thing to proceed,

00:14:40.400 but the CBC sides with a few cranks.

00:14:43.320 I'm sorry, you cannot trust the CBC,

00:14:45.800 not even for facts, let alone opinions.

00:14:48.960 The second thing is a reminder

00:14:50.860 that, in fact, private companies in Canada,

00:14:52.660 mining, oil sands, pipelines,

00:14:54.320 they're the only people providing

00:14:55.740 real meaningful work for Aboriginal folks

00:14:57.820 in the North and in the country in general.

00:14:59.920 These are not fake work jobs.

00:15:02.460 They're real jobs.

00:15:03.500 You heard some of them described.

00:15:05.120 First aid security, clearing, heli logging,

00:15:08.020 skilled, semi-skilled.

00:15:08.960 Those are awesome jobs.

00:15:12.060 Now, we all learned the lengths

00:15:13.240 that Justin Trudeau said he was prepared to go.

00:15:16.160 He was prepared to break the law

00:15:17.760 to allegedly save a few thousand jobs

00:15:20.380 for SNC-Lavalin in Montreal.

00:15:22.240 Now, he was lying, too, by the way.

00:15:23.820 Those jobs were never in jeopardy.

00:15:25.860 But Trudeau, who would do anything

00:15:27.720 for a fellow Quebecer,

00:15:30.240 well, who's going to do something

00:15:31.240 for thousands of British Columbians,

00:15:34.220 especially Aboriginal people?

00:15:35.540 Trudeau won't lift a finger

00:15:37.260 for a $40 billion project.

00:15:40.260 And anyone who claims to care

00:15:41.540 about Aboriginal people,

00:15:42.760 well, where are they today?

00:15:44.820 But the most important thing,

00:15:46.140 and I know this and you know this,

00:15:47.740 but people who rely on the CBC

00:15:49.220 for their worldview don't know this.

00:15:52.080 It's to realize how fake

00:15:53.920 and fraudulent opposition

00:15:55.860 to the oil sands and pipelines are.

00:15:57.880 This is the natural gas,

00:15:59.060 but it's the same opponents to all of it.

00:16:00.920 They're fake.

00:16:02.640 It's a few actors and lobbyists.

00:16:04.500 With high-priced lawyers.

00:16:07.620 Most of it paid for out of the U.S.

00:16:10.480 No normal person wants to stop pipelines.

00:16:12.680 I know this because normal people

00:16:14.440 realize that pipelines are normal.

00:16:16.920 You have several pipelines

00:16:18.360 going into your very own home.

00:16:20.540 You have a dangerous

00:16:21.600 and explosive pipeline.

00:16:23.620 Natural gas for your stove.

00:16:25.360 And you have a toxic pipeline.

00:16:27.400 And your sewer pipe.

00:16:28.900 You see how absurd it is

00:16:30.080 to call something so banal,

00:16:31.340 so normal, like a pipe?

00:16:32.360 So safe, so ancient, really.

00:16:34.820 I mean, the Roman aqueducts were pipes.

00:16:37.660 Dangerous, toxic.

00:16:38.740 Well, you have to be as stupid

00:16:40.200 as a CBC reporter to believe that.

00:16:43.340 I'm glad this court saw through the BS,

00:16:46.160 even if the CBC couldn't.

00:16:47.560 But the real question now is,

00:16:51.580 will the RCMP uphold the law?

00:16:53.920 Or will Justin Trudeau order them

00:16:57.740 to stand down

00:16:59.020 and side with the lawbreakers?

00:17:03.000 What do you think?

00:17:05.200 Stay with us for more.

00:17:06.280 Well, this is imagery from

00:17:28.020 the U.S. Embassy Zone,

00:17:30.900 the Green Zone,

00:17:32.160 in Baghdad, Iraq.

00:17:35.760 On December 31st,

00:17:37.040 this was once a highly secure area.

00:17:40.900 And outside are Iranian-backed militia groups,

00:17:45.060 lightly armed, but armed nonetheless,

00:17:47.040 who seem to be having their way.

00:17:49.540 And in fact, tried to smash through the door,

00:17:52.620 throwing things over easily,

00:17:54.320 climbing up.

00:17:55.780 It looked like it might turn into,

00:17:58.760 and you can see the Hezbollah flag there,

00:18:00.400 it looked like it might turn into another Benghazi,

00:18:05.040 but on a much larger scale.

00:18:08.100 Until Donald Trump

00:18:09.720 ordered the Marines in from Kuwait.

00:18:13.660 They arrived, including on the Osprey helicopter plane.

00:18:18.440 I don't even know how to describe it.

00:18:19.860 It's a unique vehicle.

00:18:21.680 At least a hundred.

00:18:24.080 And the whole place was secured

00:18:25.840 without loss of life.

00:18:28.420 Donald Trump,

00:18:30.380 oh, here you can see the Ospreys landing

00:18:32.400 in the Green Zone to secure it.

00:18:36.480 Donald Trump later tweeting

00:18:37.860 that it was the anti-Benghazi,

00:18:41.020 of course,

00:18:42.080 Benghazi referring to the U.S. consulate in Libya,

00:18:44.920 that on 19 occasions

00:18:46.880 begged Hillary Clinton 1.00

00:18:48.020 for some sort of security reinforcement

00:18:51.360 that did not come

00:18:52.400 and resulted in the murder

00:18:53.480 of four Americans.

00:18:54.980 Here, after one cable,

00:18:57.260 Donald Trump responded,

00:19:00.020 the left seemed crestfallen.

00:19:02.000 They were lusting

00:19:02.860 for a catastrophic failure

00:19:06.060 that did not come.

00:19:08.020 Trump did a victory lap

00:19:09.800 and said,

00:19:10.280 that's how we roll

00:19:11.460 under me.

00:19:13.800 And what does it say

00:19:14.860 about the region

00:19:15.860 and Iran

00:19:16.900 and the United States

00:19:19.560 multi-year commitment

00:19:20.860 in Iraq?

00:19:22.180 Joining us now

00:19:22.700 to answer those difficult questions

00:19:24.040 is our friend Joel Pollack,

00:19:25.700 senior editor-at-large

00:19:26.640 from Breitbart.com.

00:19:27.460 Joel, great to see you again.

00:19:28.260 Happy New Year.

00:19:29.580 Happy 2020.

00:19:30.680 Thank you.

00:19:31.180 You know what?

00:19:31.500 I was very scared

00:19:32.880 when I saw the early images

00:19:34.860 on December 31st.

00:19:36.500 It felt so much

00:19:38.320 like those terrible images

00:19:40.000 from Benghazi

00:19:41.300 or even,

00:19:43.380 I don't know,

00:19:44.180 in Mogadishu

00:19:45.100 even earlier

00:19:45.880 where Americans

00:19:46.880 were devoured

00:19:48.560 by a local community

00:19:50.060 that they went there

00:19:53.280 nominally

00:19:54.280 to help and protect.

00:19:55.540 To see local militias

00:19:57.280 turning against America

00:19:58.540 and smashing their way

00:19:59.740 through with impunity

00:20:01.200 was terrifying to me.

00:20:05.140 Tell me your thoughts

00:20:06.560 as an American,

00:20:07.560 and I know,

00:20:08.020 I think you formerly served

00:20:09.720 in the armed forces,

00:20:10.520 if I'm not mistaken.

00:20:11.860 Tell me a little bit more

00:20:12.880 about what happened

00:20:14.600 on December 31st,

00:20:16.240 January 1st

00:20:17.000 in Baghdad.

00:20:18.940 Well, I didn't serve.

00:20:20.700 My wife is in the Navy Reserve.

00:20:22.300 Ah, thank you, sir,

00:20:22.860 for the confusion.

00:20:24.140 Although, you know,

00:20:26.580 very supportive

00:20:27.620 of my friends who did.

00:20:30.720 So, you know,

00:20:31.860 look, I think

00:20:32.800 people weren't alarmed

00:20:34.220 by what happened in Baghdad

00:20:36.040 mostly because

00:20:37.220 people expect trouble

00:20:38.820 in Baghdad.

00:20:40.520 I mean, I don't want

00:20:41.660 to joke about

00:20:42.320 a very dangerous part

00:20:44.080 of the world

00:20:44.360 where Americans

00:20:44.880 have lost their lives

00:20:45.740 and so forth,

00:20:46.300 but, you know,

00:20:47.360 that clip of the violence

00:20:49.320 and the gunfire

00:20:50.080 in Baghdad, you know,

00:20:51.600 sounds like another day

00:20:52.920 ending in Y.

00:20:54.040 I mean,

00:20:54.700 that's how many Americans

00:20:56.400 probably react to it.

00:20:57.600 Baghdad's where

00:20:58.240 you expect trouble.

00:20:59.740 And so,

00:21:00.620 we have the green zone,

00:21:02.180 we have heavily fortified

00:21:03.420 institutions there

00:21:05.160 and installations

00:21:06.360 because we expect violence.

00:21:08.580 And 10 years ago,

00:21:10.300 we were talking about mortars

00:21:12.760 being heard

00:21:14.360 or crashing in the green zone.

00:21:17.560 So,

00:21:18.380 it's not entirely unexpected.

00:21:20.520 So, people just didn't react

00:21:21.700 in the same way.

00:21:23.180 I think that the Trump administration

00:21:24.960 was also careful

00:21:26.320 not to overreact.

00:21:29.160 Iran has tried 0.90

00:21:31.140 for several months

00:21:32.100 to try to provoke

00:21:34.080 the Trump administration

00:21:34.920 into doing something

00:21:36.300 militarily.

00:21:38.020 And the reason they've done that

00:21:39.060 is they are suffering terribly

00:21:41.820 from the sanctions.

00:21:42.840 In fact,

00:21:43.560 Iranian President Hassan Rouhani

00:21:45.080 said a couple days ago

00:21:46.980 on Tuesday of,

00:21:49.340 I think it was the last day

00:21:50.160 of December,

00:21:51.820 he said that the sanctions

00:21:55.080 that the Trump administration

00:21:56.080 has put in place

00:21:57.380 have cost the country

00:21:58.220 200 billion U.S. dollars

00:21:59.880 that more than outweighs

00:22:01.720 the 150 billion or so

00:22:03.220 that Iran received

00:22:05.120 through the Iran nuclear deal

00:22:06.880 in the form of frozen assets

00:22:08.500 and cash

00:22:09.740 in the middle of the night.

00:22:11.140 So,

00:22:11.980 the Trump administration

00:22:13.360 has really hurt Iran 0.92

00:22:15.400 and its ability

00:22:16.060 to project power

00:22:16.920 in the region

00:22:18.040 and around the globe.

00:22:19.300 So,

00:22:19.880 the regime

00:22:20.360 is now tottering

00:22:21.820 because the Iranian people

00:22:23.140 see that the regime

00:22:23.820 is weakened

00:22:24.380 and there are protests

00:22:26.220 and all sorts of things

00:22:27.340 going on.

00:22:27.740 So,

00:22:28.020 Iran has to find 1.00

00:22:29.360 some way

00:22:29.760 to weaken Trump.

00:22:30.560 Now,

00:22:30.700 there's one way

00:22:31.080 of doing it

00:22:31.620 domestically

00:22:33.220 and one way internationally.

00:22:34.560 The international version

00:22:35.700 of this

00:22:36.080 is to try

00:22:36.540 to separate Europe 0.86

00:22:37.640 from the United States

00:22:39.340 and particularly

00:22:41.220 continental Europe

00:22:42.200 because the U.K.

00:22:43.120 is more or less

00:22:44.340 on America's side

00:22:45.140 when it comes

00:22:45.560 to policy

00:22:46.160 with Iran

00:22:47.400 or against Iran.

00:22:48.900 So,

00:22:49.500 the Iranian regime

00:22:50.320 would like

00:22:50.860 to make it look

00:22:51.500 like Trump

00:22:52.040 is marching

00:22:53.460 the world

00:22:53.840 toward war,

00:22:54.620 that this

00:22:55.180 sanctions policy

00:22:57.020 he has

00:22:57.500 is really

00:22:57.900 just a first step

00:22:58.740 toward a repeat

00:23:01.120 of another

00:23:01.840 disastrous

00:23:03.100 Middle East

00:23:04.160 incursion.

00:23:05.560 This is just

00:23:06.100 the third Iraq war

00:23:07.760 and the rest

00:23:09.080 of the world

00:23:09.420 is going to suffer

00:23:09.960 for it.

00:23:10.560 So,

00:23:11.140 if he can create

00:23:12.140 the impression

00:23:12.560 that Trump

00:23:13.000 is on a hair trigger

00:23:13.780 and is just

00:23:14.320 ready to fight,

00:23:15.660 then he can start

00:23:16.780 to create a wedge

00:23:17.520 between the Europeans 0.93

00:23:18.200 and the Americans

00:23:19.300 and Trump

00:23:20.320 wisely

00:23:20.920 has not allowed

00:23:21.600 Iran to do that. 0.83

00:23:23.220 He has not allowed

00:23:24.320 Iran to provoke 1.00

00:23:25.500 any sort of

00:23:26.660 outbreak

00:23:27.100 that would

00:23:28.200 allow Europe

00:23:29.420 to pull away

00:23:30.540 and to insist

00:23:31.960 that the United States

00:23:32.640 drop the sanctions

00:23:33.380 and so forth.

00:23:34.520 So,

00:23:34.940 Trump has handled

00:23:35.480 that pretty well

00:23:36.200 without giving

00:23:37.140 Iran

00:23:37.860 too much leeway.

00:23:39.500 He's made it clear

00:23:40.080 that the United States

00:23:40.940 will respond

00:23:41.580 to direct attacks

00:23:42.820 on our allies

00:23:44.020 but he's left

00:23:44.520 enough ambiguity there

00:23:45.580 and some people

00:23:46.800 say he's been too weak,

00:23:47.560 he didn't respond

00:23:48.200 to the Saudi Arabia

00:23:49.060 missiles and so forth

00:23:49.940 but Trump has allowed

00:23:51.540 things to remain ambiguous.

00:23:53.280 He also infamously

00:23:54.540 last year

00:23:55.140 called off

00:23:56.160 airstrikes

00:23:56.860 against Iran.

00:23:58.900 I think there were

00:23:59.380 150 or so

00:24:00.340 cruise missiles

00:24:00.900 that were ready to go

00:24:01.620 or something like that

00:24:02.300 and he called them off.

00:24:03.780 So,

00:24:04.120 Trump has let it be known

00:24:05.120 that he's willing

00:24:05.880 to go to war

00:24:06.360 with Iran

00:24:06.720 but has not

00:24:07.480 been foolishly

00:24:08.940 I think provoked

00:24:09.660 into some kind of action

00:24:10.840 that would result

00:24:11.320 in international condemnation.

00:24:13.360 The other part of this

00:24:14.260 is domestic politics.

00:24:15.960 Iran knows 0.89

00:24:16.520 that if a Democrat

00:24:17.160 gets into the White House

00:24:18.260 they're going to try

00:24:18.840 to bring back

00:24:19.340 the Iran deal

00:24:19.960 which would be great

00:24:20.560 for Iran

00:24:21.120 because Iran already 0.78

00:24:22.460 got everything it needs

00:24:23.200 out of the Iran deal.

00:24:24.000 It's got all the money,

00:24:24.680 it's got all the concessions

00:24:25.640 and all that would remain

00:24:27.480 would be for Iran 0.99

00:24:28.620 to voluntarily comply

00:24:30.280 or offer

00:24:31.680 to restrict its own

00:24:33.380 development of nuclear weapons.

00:24:35.880 Well,

00:24:36.380 you know,

00:24:36.660 that's not going to happen

00:24:37.380 but Iran knows

00:24:38.340 that the Democrats

00:24:38.860 are going to be desperate

00:24:39.480 to show some sort of

00:24:40.720 outreach and so forth

00:24:41.760 so they want to weaken

00:24:42.920 Trump politically

00:24:43.880 and having this

00:24:45.700 embassy riots

00:24:47.440 on the eve

00:24:49.360 of the new year

00:24:50.040 in the United States

00:24:50.620 heading into an election year

00:24:51.600 was I think a way

00:24:52.500 to make Trump look bad.

00:24:53.780 The media of course

00:24:54.440 played into that

00:24:55.360 calling this another Benghazi

00:24:56.600 even though it wasn't

00:24:57.400 and they,

00:24:59.880 the Iranian regime that is,

00:25:01.100 they really wanted to see

00:25:02.040 if Trump would respond militarily.

00:25:03.680 Now he did

00:25:04.200 but not by firing

00:25:05.240 live weapons.

00:25:06.220 He sent Marines, 0.99

00:25:07.720 he has beefed up security there.

00:25:10.120 So I think what you're seeing

00:25:12.140 is Trump

00:25:12.720 playing the Iranians

00:25:14.940 pretty well

00:25:15.740 and he knows

00:25:16.900 that time is on his side.

00:25:18.680 The protests

00:25:19.400 continue in Iran.

00:25:20.800 Iran has to shut down 0.99

00:25:21.600 its own mobile phone network,

00:25:22.980 its own internet

00:25:23.560 to try to stop

00:25:25.020 these protests

00:25:25.820 from spreading.

00:25:26.980 That's not helpful.

00:25:28.380 Iran's economy

00:25:29.060 is basically

00:25:29.760 in free fall.

00:25:31.360 Of course,

00:25:31.620 that's not helpful.

00:25:33.020 Tehran smells bad

00:25:34.400 apparently

00:25:34.800 if you've been reading

00:25:35.320 news about that.

00:25:36.280 They are using

00:25:36.880 dirty fuel

00:25:37.780 to run their economy

00:25:39.820 and so the city

00:25:40.760 smells bad.

00:25:41.880 It's an unpleasant

00:25:42.700 place to live.

00:25:44.480 So all of that

00:25:45.660 is building up

00:25:46.400 towards political instability

00:25:48.100 that hopefully

00:25:49.540 soon in our days

00:25:50.740 as we of the tribe

00:25:52.600 like to say

00:25:53.200 will result in

00:25:54.560 the collapse

00:25:55.960 of the regime

00:25:56.460 and hopefully

00:25:56.860 in a peaceful way

00:25:57.780 and the creation

00:25:59.160 of something new

00:26:00.100 in Iran

00:26:00.480 that is

00:26:00.880 whatever it is

00:26:01.720 whether it's

00:26:02.100 an Islamic democracy

00:26:03.420 of some kind

00:26:04.100 or secular

00:26:04.680 whatever it is

00:26:05.960 at least

00:26:06.740 hopefully

00:26:07.200 it won't rely

00:26:08.260 on belligerence

00:26:09.020 towards its neighbors

00:26:10.000 to maintain

00:26:11.760 the integrity

00:26:13.180 politically

00:26:13.700 of the regime.

00:26:14.840 Well let me ask you

00:26:15.780 because I think

00:26:17.320 it was just a hundred

00:26:18.100 marines that came in

00:26:19.120 and tear gas

00:26:20.020 and they were able

00:26:20.560 to put things down

00:26:21.360 in a non-lethal way

00:26:23.120 if I understand

00:26:24.200 what happened

00:26:25.320 when the marines came

00:26:26.340 but I also see news

00:26:28.360 that the 82nd Airborne

00:26:29.600 and the thousands

00:26:30.420 of troops

00:26:30.980 maybe headed

00:26:31.440 to the region

00:26:32.100 can you

00:26:32.920 do I have that

00:26:34.360 fact right

00:26:34.980 and can you explain

00:26:35.960 what that purpose is?

00:26:38.600 We've been

00:26:39.160 talking about

00:26:40.300 a build up

00:26:40.800 for a long time

00:26:41.740 in the Middle East

00:26:43.580 particularly

00:26:44.180 the Persian Gulf region

00:26:45.200 outside of Afghanistan

00:26:46.200 there Trump

00:26:46.860 is still looking

00:26:47.420 for ways

00:26:47.800 to draw down

00:26:48.380 the number of troops

00:26:49.080 but Iran

00:26:51.180 is clearly

00:26:51.740 seeking confrontations

00:26:52.860 so it's possible

00:26:53.840 that they might

00:26:55.220 cross a line

00:26:55.920 where Trump

00:26:56.480 has to respond

00:26:57.240 if that happens

00:26:58.000 he needs to respond

00:26:59.020 quickly

00:26:59.420 he's not going

00:27:00.180 to have days

00:27:01.020 to wait

00:27:01.420 before troops

00:27:02.420 arrive in the region

00:27:03.120 so already

00:27:03.840 when that attack

00:27:04.760 on the Saudi oil field

00:27:05.700 happened several months ago

00:27:06.720 we were sending

00:27:08.140 additional troops

00:27:08.980 to the Persian Gulf

00:27:10.440 to beef up our forces there

00:27:11.800 I think we just

00:27:12.940 brought an aircraft carrier

00:27:14.160 home

00:27:14.720 for rest and repairs

00:27:16.560 and that sort of thing

00:27:17.180 but we did send

00:27:17.820 another aircraft carrier

00:27:18.860 to the region

00:27:19.400 when that happened

00:27:19.900 so we are creating

00:27:21.400 the capability

00:27:23.700 of responding

00:27:25.500 very quickly

00:27:26.080 if something happens

00:27:26.900 you need to have both

00:27:27.920 you need to have

00:27:28.560 both the

00:27:29.840 the big stick

00:27:31.560 as Theodore Roosevelt

00:27:32.440 might have said

00:27:32.960 and you also need

00:27:33.660 to show the forbearance

00:27:34.860 and have that

00:27:36.060 diplomatic channel open

00:27:37.020 as Trump does

00:27:37.760 he has

00:27:38.380 I think recently

00:27:39.820 even in the last

00:27:40.440 couple of weeks

00:27:40.900 said that he would

00:27:41.460 be open to talks

00:27:42.340 with Iran

00:27:42.720 he'd like to be

00:27:43.200 friends with Iran

00:27:43.840 that's very helpful

00:27:45.480 because it shows

00:27:46.060 the Iranian people

00:27:46.780 that he's not the problem

00:27:47.760 and I think that

00:27:49.920 you've got to have both

00:27:50.740 as Theodore Roosevelt said

00:27:52.640 speak softly

00:27:53.580 and carry a big stick

00:27:54.460 or as Trump might say

00:27:56.480 tweet

00:27:58.400 but carry a big stick

00:28:00.460 or something like that

00:28:01.160 he's got his Twitter

00:28:02.260 but he's also got

00:28:02.980 the US military

00:28:03.980 let me ask you

00:28:04.980 about one more thing

00:28:05.700 because the US government

00:28:07.260 recently declassified

00:28:08.640 a trove of documents

00:28:10.560 called the Afghanistan papers

00:28:12.340 I think that's

00:28:13.060 how they're being referred to

00:28:14.120 and these weren't leaked

00:28:15.820 by

00:28:16.380 you know

00:28:17.320 WikiLeaks or anything

00:28:18.340 these were government papers

00:28:19.780 and you correct me

00:28:20.440 if I'm wrong on that

00:28:21.520 and I read about

00:28:22.320 a hundred of them

00:28:23.040 and I was so demoralized

00:28:25.640 Joel

00:28:26.420 because the story

00:28:27.780 the story I read

00:28:28.220 was a massive presence

00:28:31.180 in Afghanistan

00:28:31.920 that didn't even know

00:28:33.060 its official purpose

00:28:34.140 that there were

00:28:35.400 you know

00:28:36.580 and I'm talking about

00:28:37.800 almost 20 years ago now

00:28:39.260 that Donald Rumsfeld

00:28:40.300 months into his tenure

00:28:41.860 years into it

00:28:42.720 we're saying

00:28:42.980 what's our goal here again

00:28:44.240 what's our mission again

00:28:45.980 that there was such a

00:28:47.580 desire to pour resources in

00:28:50.220 that local profiteers

00:28:51.860 were marking things up

00:28:53.000 by a hundred times

00:28:54.120 that things were

00:28:55.360 like it just

00:28:56.000 it seemed

00:28:56.820 like a combination

00:28:57.760 of waste

00:28:58.560 and corruption

00:28:59.420 and purposelessness

00:29:01.300 and like pushing a string

00:29:03.100 or pushing a rope

00:29:04.040 as someone might say

00:29:04.880 I read

00:29:05.480 as much as I could stomach

00:29:07.480 and I left

00:29:08.380 so demoralized

00:29:09.980 can you give me

00:29:12.220 your thoughts

00:29:12.600 on the Afghanistan papers

00:29:13.640 look Afghanistan 0.93

00:29:16.820 was never going

00:29:17.980 to be Switzerland

00:29:19.220 in Central Asia

00:29:21.280 and Americans

00:29:23.300 have known

00:29:23.660 for quite some time

00:29:24.560 that the society

00:29:25.740 there is not going

00:29:26.900 to build itself

00:29:28.840 into anything

00:29:29.420 like what we would

00:29:30.260 consider stable

00:29:31.340 or even modern

00:29:32.080 the economy there

00:29:34.420 is dependent

00:29:35.400 on opium

00:29:36.100 and that's

00:29:38.160 not going to go away

00:29:39.920 anytime soon

00:29:40.600 with big markets

00:29:41.560 in the United States

00:29:42.280 and Europe

00:29:42.660 so Afghanistan

00:29:44.540 has structural problems

00:29:45.640 it's never been

00:29:46.440 a friendly place

00:29:47.380 for conquerors

00:29:48.240 we've done better

00:29:49.100 than most

00:29:49.640 certainly better

00:29:50.660 than the Soviets did 0.95

00:29:51.520 but the region

00:29:54.760 just doesn't

00:29:55.940 respond to

00:29:58.040 the kinds of

00:29:59.080 interventions

00:29:59.640 politically

00:30:00.300 not even just

00:30:01.140 militarily

00:30:01.620 but politically

00:30:02.320 militarily it's bad

00:30:03.460 enough

00:30:03.700 and you're fighting

00:30:04.140 uphill most of the

00:30:04.860 places there

00:30:05.460 but diplomatically

00:30:07.360 and politically

00:30:07.900 it's been very

00:30:09.480 difficult

00:30:09.860 and even the best

00:30:11.360 of the leadership

00:30:12.960 that has been

00:30:13.540 available

00:30:13.880 has often proven

00:30:14.620 to be corrupt

00:30:15.420 so that's not

00:30:18.080 going to improve

00:30:18.580 itself

00:30:18.820 those problems

00:30:19.600 are endemic

00:30:20.180 and sending

00:30:21.700 Americans

00:30:22.240 over there

00:30:23.300 to try to

00:30:24.000 protect something

00:30:24.580 that doesn't

00:30:24.860 want to be

00:30:25.160 protected

00:30:25.520 is something

00:30:25.900 that most

00:30:26.360 Americans

00:30:26.820 tired of

00:30:27.860 a long time

00:30:28.380 ago

00:30:28.620 the issue

00:30:30.920 really remains

00:30:32.560 Iran

00:30:33.140 and Afghanistan

00:30:34.600 of course

00:30:35.080 is on Iran's 0.87

00:30:36.040 eastern frontier

00:30:38.200 with Iraq

00:30:39.620 on the west

00:30:40.300 and the situation

00:30:41.300 Barack Obama

00:30:42.000 inherited in 2009

00:30:43.240 the situation

00:30:44.180 that almost led

00:30:44.720 to the toppling

00:30:45.300 of the Iranian

00:30:45.740 regime

00:30:46.140 was one in which

00:30:47.200 there were

00:30:47.440 hundreds of

00:30:47.860 thousands of

00:30:48.300 troops

00:30:48.580 east and west

00:30:50.060 of Iran

00:30:50.580 you had

00:30:51.140 100,000 plus

00:30:52.700 in Afghanistan

00:30:53.260 100,000 plus

00:30:54.140 in Iraq

00:30:55.000 and the Iranian

00:30:55.980 people looked at

00:30:56.500 this and thought

00:30:56.860 well look

00:30:57.220 you know

00:30:57.400 the Americans

00:30:57.880 are on other

00:30:58.300 side of us

00:30:58.960 we can just

00:30:59.920 get rid of our

00:31:00.540 regime right now

00:31:01.080 and they'll

00:31:01.280 support us

00:31:01.760 well we didn't

00:31:02.980 and that was

00:31:04.060 a lost opportunity

00:31:05.020 it was probably

00:31:05.460 the strategic

00:31:06.420 pinnacle of

00:31:07.100 American power

00:31:07.700 in the region

00:31:08.180 now we don't

00:31:09.560 have that

00:31:10.000 true presence

00:31:10.700 anymore

00:31:11.680 you know

00:31:12.220 you can't keep

00:31:12.820 them around

00:31:13.180 if you're not

00:31:13.540 committed to

00:31:14.220 winning

00:31:14.720 but Trump

00:31:15.900 is using

00:31:16.340 sanctions to

00:31:17.040 restore some

00:31:17.600 of that leverage

00:31:18.280 and the reason

00:31:20.200 to maintain

00:31:20.640 troops in that

00:31:21.400 area

00:31:21.920 again it's also

00:31:23.280 to keep the

00:31:24.000 pressure on Iran

00:31:24.620 Iran is a 1.00

00:31:25.280 society

00:31:25.740 that could 0.68

00:31:26.460 become part

00:31:26.920 of the solution

00:31:27.480 actually

00:31:28.060 because unlike

00:31:28.860 Afghanistan

00:31:29.400 unlike Pakistan 1.00

00:31:30.180 unlike Saudi 1.00

00:31:31.500 Arabia even

00:31:32.200 Iran is a 1.00

00:31:33.400 civilization

00:31:33.920 Iran is a 1.00

00:31:35.500 highly educated

00:31:36.200 country for the

00:31:37.120 most part

00:31:37.560 you've got

00:31:37.960 people here

00:31:39.680 in LA

00:31:40.020 for example

00:31:40.560 from Iran

00:31:41.200 Jewish

00:31:42.160 Muslim

00:31:42.580 and otherwise

00:31:43.040 who are

00:31:44.220 among the

00:31:44.700 most successful

00:31:45.320 people in

00:31:46.460 Southern California

00:31:47.260 who build

00:31:47.760 businesses

00:31:48.280 who are in

00:31:48.800 high tech

00:31:49.360 I mean

00:31:49.680 the professions

00:31:50.840 here

00:31:51.240 if you go

00:31:51.880 to a dentist

00:31:52.400 chances are

00:31:53.020 they're from

00:31:53.320 Iran

00:31:53.660 if you go

00:31:54.080 to a geologist

00:31:56.120 or anybody

00:31:57.220 in the engineering

00:31:58.160 field

00:31:58.620 it's really

00:32:01.160 astonishing

00:32:01.760 how skilled

00:32:03.300 and how

00:32:03.640 well educated

00:32:04.260 the population

00:32:04.820 there is

00:32:05.220 Iran could 0.95

00:32:06.300 be really

00:32:07.040 the foundation

00:32:07.680 of a new

00:32:08.320 and better

00:32:08.740 Middle East

00:32:09.280 if it just

00:32:09.680 changed its

00:32:10.200 government

00:32:10.540 now that's

00:32:13.060 the reason

00:32:13.480 I think

00:32:13.960 to remain

00:32:14.720 engaged in

00:32:15.240 the Middle East

00:32:15.560 in the hope

00:32:16.020 that Iran 0.91

00:32:16.900 will change

00:32:17.400 now Obama

00:32:17.920 saw the same

00:32:18.500 potential in Iran

00:32:19.200 but he didn't

00:32:19.680 want to do it

00:32:20.160 through regime

00:32:20.640 change

00:32:20.980 he basically

00:32:21.440 said well

00:32:21.840 Iran can be 0.97

00:32:22.720 a leader

00:32:23.120 but we'll

00:32:24.440 just leave

00:32:24.760 the mullahs

00:32:25.180 in charge

00:32:25.760 and we'll

00:32:26.960 allow them

00:32:27.320 to build

00:32:27.560 nuclear weapons

00:32:28.180 because why

00:32:28.640 not

00:32:28.980 and that's

00:32:30.420 the problem

00:32:30.900 Obama just

00:32:31.740 never really

00:32:32.380 grappled

00:32:32.860 with the

00:32:33.100 essential evil

00:32:33.820 of the regime

00:32:34.460 and how

00:32:34.940 dependent

00:32:35.380 it was

00:32:35.780 on terrorism

00:32:36.300 and I think

00:32:36.680 the reason

00:32:36.940 he didn't

00:32:37.260 grapple

00:32:37.560 was he saw

00:32:37.980 America's role

00:32:38.580 in the world

00:32:38.940 as being

00:32:39.380 as bad

00:32:40.040 or worse

00:32:40.580 and of course

00:32:41.660 Israel is the 1.00

00:32:42.300 extension of

00:32:42.780 the United States

00:32:43.480 but we didn't

00:32:44.080 really care

00:32:44.420 what they had

00:32:44.740 to say about

00:32:45.180 it right

00:32:45.480 we didn't

00:32:45.760 even give

00:32:46.560 Netanyahu

00:32:47.040 a seat at

00:32:47.460 the table

00:32:47.780 to negotiate

00:32:48.280 with Iran

00:32:48.680 even though

00:32:49.080 they're the

00:32:49.760 one country

00:32:50.240 Iran wants 0.99

00:32:50.700 to wipe

00:32:51.060 off the map

00:32:51.500 so you know

00:32:52.780 Obama just

00:32:53.500 didn't care

00:32:53.980 about the

00:32:54.300 nature

00:32:54.540 of the regime

00:32:55.160 I think

00:32:56.460 we have to

00:32:57.080 care

00:32:57.340 but also

00:32:57.980 look beyond

00:32:58.620 that

00:33:02.860 suppressed

00:33:03.180 by that

00:33:03.640 regime

00:33:03.960 and I think

00:33:05.300 once you

00:33:06.520 can achieve

00:33:07.220 some kind

00:33:07.620 of change

00:33:08.140 in Iran

00:33:08.600 the rest

00:33:09.580 of the region

00:33:10.020 looks a lot

00:33:10.420 rosier

00:33:10.960 you know

00:33:11.280 it's not

00:33:11.540 going to be

00:33:12.000 again

00:33:12.360 it's not

00:33:12.620 going to be

00:33:12.840 Switzerland

00:33:13.120 it's a bad

00:33:14.280 neighborhood

00:33:14.620 but once

00:33:16.040 you've got

00:33:16.660 a good

00:33:17.080 neighbor on

00:33:18.620 the block

00:33:19.020 at least

00:33:19.520 someone who

00:33:20.100 can at least

00:33:21.200 produce positive

00:33:22.020 things for the

00:33:22.600 world

00:33:22.820 rather than

00:33:23.320 currently

00:33:23.860 exporting

00:33:24.820 terrorism

00:33:25.380 I think

00:33:26.120 things begin

00:33:26.820 to improve

00:33:27.380 so

00:33:27.760 Afghanistan

00:33:28.500 is a very

00:33:28.980 sad story

00:33:29.620 but like

00:33:30.440 anything in the

00:33:30.900 Middle East

00:33:31.200 whether it's

00:33:31.680 Syria

00:33:32.000 or Saudi

00:33:33.320 Arabia

00:33:33.700 everything

00:33:34.180 has to be

00:33:34.720 viewed in

00:33:35.080 strategic

00:33:35.440 context

00:33:35.960 and right

00:33:36.280 now

00:33:36.540 the biggest

00:33:37.280 strategic

00:33:37.640 challenge

00:33:38.040 is Iran

00:33:38.620 of course

00:33:38.920 once we

00:33:39.180 solve that

00:33:39.540 problem

00:33:39.800 there'll be

00:33:39.980 another one

00:33:40.280 to solve

00:33:40.520 but that

00:33:41.960 is the

00:33:42.220 biggest

00:33:42.420 and has

00:33:42.880 been the

00:33:43.140 biggest

00:33:43.400 for the

00:33:44.220 last 40

00:33:44.800 plus years

00:33:45.500 well it's

00:33:47.440 terrifying

00:33:47.960 but a little

00:33:49.620 bit hopeful

00:33:50.200 also

00:33:50.820 I'm sure

00:33:51.800 that both

00:33:52.340 Russia

00:33:53.080 and China

00:33:53.880 have their

00:33:55.960 counter

00:33:56.580 strategies

00:33:57.520 and

00:33:58.800 may be

00:34:01.300 more bloody

00:34:02.300 minded

00:34:02.880 about

00:34:03.400 achieving

00:34:03.800 them

00:34:04.060 than

00:34:04.340 the

00:34:04.600 West

00:34:04.880 is

00:34:05.220 Joel

00:34:06.020 I'm sure

00:34:06.480 Russia

00:34:07.000 and China

00:34:07.880 I mean

00:34:08.200 let's just

00:34:08.540 say a brief

00:34:09.300 word about

00:34:09.580 that

00:34:09.800 Russia's 0.70

00:34:11.380 foreign

00:34:11.660 policy

00:34:12.140 is essentially

00:34:12.860 to make

00:34:13.640 sure that

00:34:14.300 Russian

00:34:14.920 oligarchs 1.00

00:34:15.560 can continue

00:34:16.020 to make

00:34:16.360 money

00:34:16.660 and China's

00:34:17.880 foreign

00:34:18.100 policy

00:34:18.560 is essentially

00:34:19.160 to ensure

00:34:19.760 that China 0.93

00:34:20.560 can get

00:34:21.040 raw materials

00:34:21.820 and make

00:34:23.600 money

00:34:23.960 these are

00:34:25.340 countries

00:34:26.100 that are

00:34:28.100 mercantilist

00:34:28.980 in their

00:34:29.260 approach to

00:34:29.900 the world

00:34:30.300 in that sense

00:34:31.420 they're playing

00:34:32.300 by 17th

00:34:33.460 century rules

00:34:34.100 John Kerry

00:34:34.900 complained once

00:34:35.880 that Vladimir

00:34:36.600 Putin was

00:34:37.060 playing by

00:34:37.500 19th century

00:34:38.280 rules when

00:34:38.780 he invaded

00:34:39.360 Crimea

00:34:39.740 in fact he

00:34:40.700 was about

00:34:41.800 200 or

00:34:42.120 300 years

00:34:42.760 too late

00:34:43.260 these are

00:34:44.180 mercantilist

00:34:44.860 systems

00:34:45.400 and very

00:34:46.000 successful

00:34:46.480 because

00:34:46.960 they're the

00:34:48.420 bullies in the

00:34:48.940 room when

00:34:49.480 everyone else

00:34:49.900 agrees to play

00:34:50.400 nice

00:34:50.680 you've got

00:34:51.000 a post-war

00:34:52.340 free trade

00:34:53.300 regime

00:34:53.880 open economies

00:34:55.220 and here

00:34:55.780 come the

00:34:56.020 bullies to

00:34:56.400 take advantage

00:34:56.820 of it

00:34:57.120 now that

00:34:58.500 doesn't mean

00:34:58.760 we need to

00:34:59.100 be at war

00:35:00.100 with them

00:35:00.540 it doesn't

00:35:01.180 mean we need

00:35:01.760 to push

00:35:02.280 back against

00:35:02.720 some of

00:35:02.960 what they

00:35:03.180 do

00:35:03.480 but understand

00:35:04.740 also that

00:35:05.300 their interest

00:35:06.000 in the Middle

00:35:06.320 East is

00:35:06.660 primarily about

00:35:07.440 raw materials

00:35:08.240 and access

00:35:09.520 to oil

00:35:10.120 and for

00:35:11.120 Russia

00:35:11.440 especially

00:35:11.920 access to

00:35:12.620 Mediterranean

00:35:13.040 naval ports

00:35:13.960 and so

00:35:15.760 forth

00:35:15.980 so I

00:35:17.060 think that

00:35:17.680 these are

00:35:18.640 not economies

00:35:19.200 that have

00:35:19.640 a lot of

00:35:20.040 cash to

00:35:20.760 burn

00:35:21.000 although the

00:35:21.300 Chinese have 1.00

00:35:21.680 a lot of

00:35:21.920 money

00:35:22.060 but they're

00:35:22.600 not interested

00:35:22.980 in getting

00:35:23.340 mired in

00:35:24.040 the Middle

00:35:24.700 East

00:35:24.960 and the

00:35:25.220 Russians

00:35:25.460 certainly

00:35:26.140 don't want

00:35:27.360 to spend

00:35:28.720 all their

00:35:29.600 scarce resources

00:35:30.560 I mean

00:35:30.760 they have a

00:35:30.960 very small

00:35:31.380 economy

00:35:31.780 compared to

00:35:32.240 ours

00:35:32.420 they don't

00:35:32.960 want to

00:35:33.160 waste

00:35:33.340 all their

00:35:33.600 time

00:35:33.940 trying to

00:35:35.160 move

00:35:36.820 chess pieces

00:35:37.420 across the

00:35:37.860 board

00:35:38.060 they're

00:35:38.780 basically

00:35:39.280 looking to

00:35:40.440 protect

00:35:40.780 their economic

00:35:41.440 interests

00:35:41.880 as well as

00:35:42.280 their security

00:35:42.700 interests

00:35:43.140 around the

00:35:43.480 periphery

00:35:43.840 of Russia

00:35:44.180 but we

00:35:45.640 can still

00:35:46.460 do those

00:35:47.000 things

00:35:47.400 without the

00:35:48.940 Iranian

00:35:49.280 regime

00:35:49.780 as it

00:35:50.240 currently

00:35:50.640 exists

00:35:51.140 if there's

00:35:51.460 a better

00:35:51.860 Iran

00:35:52.360 they will

00:35:53.300 still sell

00:35:54.400 oil to

00:35:56.140 China

00:35:56.600 I mean

00:35:57.020 that commercial

00:35:58.440 relationship doesn't

00:35:59.220 have to be

00:35:59.540 disrupted

00:35:59.920 the Chinese

00:36:00.480 and the Russians

00:36:01.060 can live with a

00:36:02.220 world that's

00:36:02.720 better for us

00:36:03.520 as long as it

00:36:04.400 satisfies their

00:36:05.080 needs

00:36:05.420 there's no

00:36:05.800 reason it

00:36:06.200 shouldn't

00:36:06.740 so like you

00:36:07.640 I'm optimistic

00:36:08.280 about 2020

00:36:09.040 and I will say

00:36:10.300 this as well

00:36:10.820 I think we've got

00:36:11.320 the right person

00:36:11.840 in charge

00:36:12.280 to get it

00:36:12.680 done

00:36:12.920 yeah

00:36:13.480 well very

00:36:14.780 interesting

00:36:15.260 indeed

00:36:15.600 Joel

00:36:15.840 it's great

00:36:16.460 to catch up

00:36:17.040 with you

00:36:17.400 again

00:36:17.820 and I know

00:36:18.320 that you

00:36:18.720 will help

00:36:19.120 guide us

00:36:19.720 through 2020

00:36:20.740 which will be

00:36:21.260 a momentous

00:36:21.780 year for your

00:36:22.260 country

00:36:22.600 and of course

00:36:23.540 as America

00:36:24.480 goes

00:36:24.900 so goes

00:36:25.600 Canada

00:36:26.000 and the

00:36:26.860 free world

00:36:27.380 so good

00:36:27.880 luck to us

00:36:28.380 all

00:36:28.540 thanks Joel

00:36:29.180 all right

00:36:29.700 thank you

00:36:30.100 great to see

00:36:30.680 you again

00:36:31.020 thank you

00:36:31.520 well there you

00:36:32.060 have it

00:36:32.280 Joel Pollack

00:36:32.720 senior editor

00:36:33.380 at large

00:36:33.900 at our

00:36:34.240 friend

00:36:34.580 breitbart.com

00:36:36.380 stay with us

00:36:37.000 hello my

00:36:47.140 friends

00:36:47.460 what do you

00:36:47.820 think about

00:36:48.260 the story

00:36:48.800 out of BC

00:36:49.660 I'm pleased

00:36:51.140 that the court

00:36:51.700 finally ordered

00:36:52.980 the RCMP

00:36:54.120 to uphold

00:36:54.740 the law

00:36:55.080 now that

00:36:55.420 doesn't mean

00:36:55.820 the RCMP

00:36:56.460 are going

00:36:56.840 to uphold

00:36:57.360 the law

00:36:57.740 at all

00:36:58.220 they're

00:36:58.740 extremely

00:36:59.560 political

00:37:00.080 that's why

00:37:00.600 I think

00:37:01.020 that Alberta

00:37:01.940 and frankly

00:37:02.660 every province

00:37:03.300 should get

00:37:03.620 rid of the RCMP

00:37:04.260 why would you

00:37:06.020 allow your

00:37:06.460 provincial

00:37:06.820 police force

00:37:07.480 at least

00:37:07.960 in the rural

00:37:08.360 parts

00:37:08.740 to be operated

00:37:10.240 by Justin

00:37:10.800 Trudeau

00:37:11.140 out of Ottawa

00:37:11.620 why

00:37:12.780 because it

00:37:13.140 saves a few

00:37:13.660 bucks

00:37:13.980 get rid of

00:37:15.380 the RCMP

00:37:16.020 it's crazy

00:37:16.960 that anyone

00:37:18.020 who's trying

00:37:18.560 to uphold

00:37:18.980 the rule

00:37:19.320 of law

00:37:19.660 for a resource

00:37:20.360 project

00:37:20.900 would rely

00:37:21.680 on Justin

00:37:22.240 Trudeau's

00:37:22.700 personal police

00:37:23.500 force

00:37:23.820 well those

00:37:24.740 are my

00:37:24.960 thoughts

00:37:25.160 for today

00:37:25.800 until tomorrow

00:37:26.880 on behalf

00:37:27.420 of all of us

00:37:27.940 here from

00:37:28.340 Rebel World

00:37:28.860 Headquarters

00:37:29.320 to you at home

00:37:29.920 good night

00:37:30.600 and keep

00:37:31.460 fighting for

00:37:31.940 freedom

00:37:37.040 after

00:37:37.960 hours

00:37:38.440 after

00:37:38.740 week

00:37:39.600 and have

00:37:40.740 had money

00:37:42.760 made

00:37:43.200 for

00:37:43.620 actions

00:37:44.000 and keep

00:37:46.060 away

00:37:47.060 and have

00:37:49.560 been

00:37:50.060 important

00:37:51.360 to you

Rebel News Podcast - January 03, 2020

CBC takes the side of unelected Indian chiefs illegally protesting a natural gas pipeline

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