Rebel News Podcast - CHILD ABUSE： Ontario requires young children to quarantine by themselves, with zero contact from parents!

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Some incredible child abuse discovered in Ontario. Rampant.

00:00:06.640 Every health authority you can shake a stick at has given the same cruel advice.

00:00:12.000 The children sent home from class or child care have to isolate within their own home,

00:00:17.480 solitary confinement at home, even if they don't have any symptoms, like no symptoms.

00:00:23.280 14-day solitary confinement in their own home.

00:00:25.640 So, it's gross. And I'll show you what the public health authorities have to say about it.

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00:01:21.700 Tonight, Ontario requires young children to quarantine by themselves with zero contact with their own parents.

00:01:42.580 It's child abuse.

00:01:43.700 It's March 2nd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:46.260 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:52.180 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:56.260 The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:02:06.800 Let me tell you about an interesting story.

00:02:08.800 It started on Twitter with some mums and grandmas.

00:02:11.580 They had received some propaganda from various government public health agencies in Ontario that I think a lot of people see and tune out.

00:02:20.100 Maybe that's just me.

00:02:21.200 It's endless government public service messages.

00:02:24.520 I think they're engineered to be boring.

00:02:27.400 And after a while, it's all just the same droning background noise like an old air conditioner or flying on a plane or a detuned radio.

00:02:36.780 It's just a hum.

00:02:37.720 But these moms and grandmas read it.

00:02:40.400 I suppose that's what moms and grandmas do. 1.00

00:02:42.780 And they started to tweet about it to their few dozen followers.

00:02:47.300 The story had been ignored by big shots in the media, CBC, CTV, the Globe and Mail.

00:02:51.720 Those guys are 100% in favor of lockdowns.

00:02:54.180 The harsher, the better.

00:02:55.520 For the little people, not for themselves. 0.86

00:02:58.940 These days, the media is in favor of most things that Trudeau wants because they pretty much all work for him in one way or another.

00:03:05.500 But this, or versions of this, is what the moms were tweeting about. 1.00

00:03:14.560 What to do if your child is dismissed from school but doesn't have any symptoms.

00:03:21.460 So nothing.

00:03:22.540 Maybe someone else in the class was sick, but your child has no symptoms.

00:03:27.560 Your child is not sick, but your child is being sent home from school healthy.

00:03:32.100 So what should you do?

00:03:35.380 Normal parents or a normal doctor would probably say, oh, just keep an eye on things, but don't be weird about it.

00:03:41.720 The Peel region, which is a large area outside of Toronto, says, and I quote,

00:03:46.580 The child must self-isolate, which means stay in a separate bedroom, eat in a separate room apart from others, use a separate bathroom if possible.

00:03:59.760 If the child must leave their room, and why would they?

00:04:03.220 I mean, they're a child.

00:04:04.320 Stay there for two weeks in your room.

00:04:06.280 They should wear a mask and stay two meters apart from others.

00:04:09.420 Hang on, do you have to do both, a mask and two meters apart?

00:04:15.040 It is strongly recommended to test for COVID-19 on or after the date listed in your letter.

00:04:22.200 I'm serious.

00:04:23.060 They recommend two weeks of solitary confinement in the child's own home.

00:04:27.380 Wear a mask in their own home.

00:04:29.000 Don't get within six feet of anyone in your own home, even if you're wearing a mask.

00:04:32.420 Don't see other family members in your own home, even if no one here has any symptoms at all, including the child.

00:04:40.320 Oh, and that's not all.

00:04:41.200 Look at the next column in this flyer.

00:04:43.480 For other kids in the same address, any other children who live in the same address should stay home from school 1.00

00:04:49.860 until the child who is a close contact returns to school.

00:04:52.800 Oh, so the whole family is knocked out of commission.

00:04:56.240 And the last point, should not go out to play with friends or see family who don't live with you.

00:05:02.720 So not only does a child who has no symptoms have to stay at home in quarantine,

00:05:07.980 but all the other kids in the same home who don't have any symptoms and don't even know someone who had symptoms,

00:05:15.000 they have to stay home too, and they can't visit anyone else either.

00:05:19.640 And remember, this is all for a kid sent home with no symptoms.

00:05:23.400 This is madness.

00:05:25.080 Now, as you can see, this is a fancy poster that was obviously planned and laid out and reviewed and edited.

00:05:30.680 It's not just some slapdash comment.

00:05:32.420 It's not just some email written by somebody.

00:05:34.780 These are the official rules published by the official people.

00:05:38.560 And folks follow these rules because people are scared.

00:05:42.100 They're scared of the virus, I think.

00:05:43.600 But I think by now we all know that kids really don't get this virus.

00:05:46.780 And if they get it, they recover.

00:05:48.140 If they even know they had it.

00:05:49.320 And I think people are really scared of the government more than anything.

00:05:54.360 The government is fining people thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.

00:05:58.060 So I think some people are doing terrible things to their own children out of fear,

00:06:02.820 like turning them into prisoners in solitary confinement.

00:06:04.940 One of the few lockdown skeptics in the mainstream media is Anthony Furrier, the Toronto Sun.

00:06:12.200 He wrote about these tweets and this cruel policy.

00:06:16.400 I'll read a bit from his great article in the Toronto Sun, and I salute Anthony for this.

00:06:20.440 Experts call Peel guidelines to place children in solitary quarantine cruel punishment.

00:06:26.700 Drastic measure not supported by science and could have long-lasting psychological effects.

00:06:31.960 Peel Health has issued guidelines to parents instructing them to keep any children who have been sent home

00:06:37.020 because a classmate has tested positive for COVID-19 isolated in a separate room from all other family members for 14 days.

00:06:45.300 You read it.

00:06:45.940 The severe guidelines, which apply even to small children who are dismissed from child care.

00:06:51.080 I didn't even read that part.

00:06:52.440 I read it as if it was school.

00:06:53.700 It included child care.

00:06:55.220 We're talking children of tender years.

00:06:58.700 They're being criticized by experts as harmful and not supported by science.

00:07:02.920 This is cruel punishment for a child, especially for younger children 4 to 10 years old.

00:07:07.660 Dr. Susan Richardson, a microbiologist and infectious disease physician,

00:07:12.260 who is also a professor emerita at University of Toronto,

00:07:15.660 wrote in an email to the Sun.

00:07:18.460 Shutting a child off from their parents and siblings for up to 14 days in this manner

00:07:22.500 could produce significant and long-lasting emotional and psychological effects.

00:07:27.740 Can you imagine having a 4-year-old locked in their room for 2 weeks with no contact?

00:07:32.340 Are you freaking mad?

00:07:35.200 And then Anthony quotes some of the mums and grandmas

00:07:38.560 who had more common sense than 10,000 health bureaucrats.

00:07:41.680 Here's one grandma. 0.73

00:07:46.020 My 10-year-old daughter was sent home from school today because one kid in her class tested positive.

00:07:52.220 Public health instructed her mom to keep her in her room with no contact with the rest of the family for 14 days.

00:07:57.820 Sounds like child abuse to me.

00:07:59.520 There's a $5,000 fine for noncompliance.

00:08:03.100 Well, that one grandma did more investigative journalism than anyone at the CBC or the Toronto Star.

00:08:07.600 Anthony Fury wrote about her tweet, wrote about the story.

00:08:10.820 The story went viral and everyone realized how stupid the government is.

00:08:14.760 So Fury actually managed to put a question to the government's public health officials.

00:08:19.240 I'm going to play the whole exchange for you unedited.

00:08:21.640 Take a listen.

00:08:22.640 Anthony Fury, Post Media.

00:08:24.540 Please go ahead.

00:08:26.560 Hi there, Dr. William.

00:08:28.220 Peel Region Health has apologized for telling parents they need to quarantine children

00:08:32.400 who may have been exposed to the virus in isolation from all family members.

00:08:36.700 However, there are still multiple public health units that offer similarly worded guidance

00:08:40.920 for when kids are dismissed from school.

00:08:42.940 And all those public health units, they say they are simply following provincial guidelines.

00:08:46.540 So can you clarify for all those frustrated and, well, outraged parents that we're hearing from,

00:08:51.840 what the province-wide position actually is on this matter?

00:08:55.560 Okay.

00:08:56.020 I'm going to hand that over to Dr. Yaffe to answer that one.

00:08:58.900 And she does a lot of the case contact management issues.

00:09:01.440 Thank you very much.

00:09:04.900 I mean, we know that if somebody may have COVID-19 or they've been a close contact of somebody

00:09:12.120 with COVID-19, we would like them to be isolated for up to 14 days, which is the maximum incubation

00:09:21.640 period, because they may develop the infection and become infectious to others.

00:09:26.220 However, we obviously understand that you can't leave a child alone in a room.

00:09:31.440 for that period of time.

00:09:33.900 And so you have to use basically common sense and say, you know, if your child had had measles

00:09:40.460 or some other infectious disease, how would you handle the situation?

00:09:44.880 And you would make sure that the child, obviously, you're caring for the child,

00:09:48.760 but you use proper infection prevention and control.

00:09:52.300 If possible, you wear a mask, you wash your hands well, you make sure the child is obviously

00:09:58.460 not exposing others in the family as much as possible.

00:10:02.120 Hopefully, one, only one or two people need to care for the child during that period.

00:10:06.460 But you do not leave the child alone in a room for 14 days.

00:10:10.720 So I think perhaps it was just the choice of wording was probably not optimal.

00:10:17.020 But it is important to try to minimize the spread of infection.

00:10:21.620 And there are instructions for that on the Public Health Agency of Canada website, Public Health

00:10:28.420 Ontario, and so on.

00:10:30.080 And if in doubt, you consult your health unit or your health practitioner in terms of how

00:10:37.140 you would deal with it.

00:10:38.040 But use common sense.

00:10:40.280 Try to prevent transmission of infection.

00:10:42.840 But take care of the child.

00:10:44.960 Follow-up?

00:10:45.760 Okay, but you've said many times that the contact tracing reveals that there has hardly

00:10:51.840 been any in-class transmission at all throughout the province, and that is one reason why schools

00:10:56.800 are safe.

00:10:57.720 So why then does a child who was simply in the same room as another child who later tested

00:11:02.240 positive, and therefore, based on what you've been saying, is extremely unlikely to later test

00:11:07.480 positive for the virus, why does that child even need to be kept indoors for 14 days straight

00:11:12.440 and separated from pretty much all other family members except for a caregiver?

00:11:18.080 Well, I mean, it isn't common to have transmission in schools.

00:11:22.160 But unfortunately, as you've heard, we are now dealing with variants of concern, and in

00:11:28.680 some instances in the school setting, and they are at least 40 to 50 percent more transmissible

00:11:34.660 than the usual normal variant of COVID-19.

00:11:39.820 So we need to be extra cautious.

00:11:42.520 This can spread very quickly.

00:11:44.680 And so we want to be extra careful and make sure that we minimize spread.

00:11:50.620 Did you hear that?

00:11:52.120 Well, the choice of the wording was probably not optimal.

00:11:55.780 And come on, guys, just use common sense.

00:11:57.960 You know what we mean.

00:11:59.860 Well, which is it?

00:12:01.560 Follow your stupid rules or follow common sense, because those are two very different things.

00:12:06.780 And by the way, if a cop comes with a $5,000 fine, can I say, hey, copper, can I point them

00:12:15.200 to this embarrassing press conference by some public health bureaucrat?

00:12:18.500 Is that enough to get a mom or a grandma out of a fine just showing a TV clip there?

00:12:24.380 Does that trump the actual law or the health order?

00:12:27.140 Does that actually change anything, that embarrassing admission by some public health drone?

00:12:31.680 Or did it just get the government through an uncomfortable tight spot and the rules remain?

00:12:37.140 Because actually the rules remain.

00:12:38.660 Even on their own terms, though, choice of wording, not optimal.

00:12:42.740 But it's not the wording, it's the meaning of the words.

00:12:45.460 It's not a turn of a phrase.

00:12:46.700 There wasn't one word that was hard to understand.

00:12:49.100 Either children of tender years in child care or schools,

00:12:52.720 either those children with no symptoms have to be quarantined away from the family or not.

00:12:56.740 It's not the use of the words, it's the meaning.

00:12:58.680 Do they mean it or not?

00:13:01.920 It wasn't a mistake.

00:13:04.160 Here's another story from today's Toronto Stun by Brian Passifume

00:13:08.240 that shows the city of Toronto, Canada's largest city, has the same rules.

00:13:13.880 Top Toronto doc, doc's child COVID isolation issue.

00:13:17.080 No clear answer from city's health agency on isolating school-aged children

00:13:20.580 potentially exposed to COVID-19.

00:13:23.100 Okay, so here's the key paragraph in today's story.

00:13:25.100 When asked by the Toronto Sun about Toronto Public Health's stance

00:13:28.120 on isolating asymptomatic and untested children

00:13:31.780 based on a potential COVID exposure at school,

00:13:35.080 Davila, that's the public health tyrant in Toronto, 1.00

00:13:37.600 gave no clear answer, even after two other journalists asked

00:13:41.020 she clarify her response.

00:13:43.480 The goal is to try and reduce the spread and transmission

00:13:47.000 from one person to the next, but to do so in a manner

00:13:49.880 that's safe for all those involved, she said.

00:13:52.420 So she just wouldn't answer.

00:13:55.040 We know what the goal is, you fool.

00:13:57.120 We're asking about your methods.

00:14:00.260 Clearly, with young children, they're going to need the support

00:14:03.600 of their parents and caregivers to make sure

00:14:05.980 they've got the necessities of life

00:14:08.000 and that they're properly and well cared for

00:14:10.240 and the manner in which that is done

00:14:12.120 will help to ensure the safety, yes, of the child

00:14:15.280 and all those in the household.

00:14:17.440 So that's still not a no.

00:14:19.120 So there's no change in the policy.

00:14:21.940 They really want children to be put in solitary confinement

00:14:25.160 even in their own homes.

00:14:27.160 And by the way, I say again, no one involved here

00:14:29.280 has tested positive or has any symptoms.

00:14:31.700 Children who have no symptoms, children who are not sick.

00:14:35.980 This is not a matter of a poor choice of words.

00:14:38.720 They all say the same thing.

00:14:40.140 Here's good work by anti-lockdown lawyer Ryan O'Connor.

00:14:43.440 I'm just going to read a series of his tweets.

00:14:45.420 He did some research.

00:14:46.200 Sudbury, public health Sudbury requires children

00:14:50.180 who have one symptom of COVID, i.e. a runny nose,

00:14:53.440 even without a case contact, to remain home from school

00:14:55.900 and the sick child must self-isolate

00:14:58.440 away from other household members.

00:15:00.380 How does an eight-year-old cook dinner alone?

00:15:03.220 Here's another.

00:15:05.400 Lambton County tells parents of child

00:15:08.540 in dismissed cohort last autumn

00:15:10.300 that the child had to, quote,

00:15:12.140 stay in her home room at all times, including meals.

00:15:15.260 It was against best practice

00:15:17.240 for the child to eat meals with their family,

00:15:19.560 even if they were six feet apart.

00:15:21.500 Who's making up these lies?

00:15:22.820 Here's another one from Wellington County,

00:15:24.780 one of the worst counties.

00:15:27.400 Tell children in dismissed cohort

00:15:29.360 to isolate within the home.

00:15:30.920 Your child should follow these guidelines,

00:15:32.660 limit interactions with household members

00:15:34.140 as much as possible.

00:15:35.400 Isolate in a separate room.

00:15:37.600 Here's another one.

00:15:38.620 I mean, it's all over the place.

00:15:39.600 This is York Region, huge municipality outside Toronto.

00:15:42.240 Public Health tells children in dismissed cohort

00:15:44.600 to isolate within the home.

00:15:46.280 Self-isolation for children can be challenging.

00:15:48.780 Parents are asked to do their best

00:15:50.220 to keep their children isolated from others,

00:15:52.460 including from those in their own family.

00:15:54.920 These people are child abusers.

00:15:56.840 This is child abuse.

00:15:57.860 That's what this is.

00:15:59.000 Child abuse, but no more than terrifying children

00:16:01.560 the rest of the past year,

00:16:03.260 forcing them to wear masks.

00:16:04.760 Children no longer even remember

00:16:06.280 what it was like in the before times.

00:16:08.560 See their mom smile.

00:16:09.720 See other people smile.

00:16:12.200 See people talk when they talk to you.

00:16:13.960 This is child abuse.

00:16:14.760 That's what this is.

00:16:16.180 Yeah, when some public health tyrant says,

00:16:18.480 oh, guys, just use your common sense

00:16:20.760 that isn't allowed, that's illegal,

00:16:23.560 that's subject to fines.

00:16:24.660 Just use your common sense.

00:16:25.540 But even if it wasn't subject to a $5,000 fine,

00:16:28.260 I know what common sense means to me,

00:16:30.620 and I'm pretty sure it has the same meaning

00:16:32.920 for most people, and I'm pretty sure

00:16:34.700 it has nothing to do with what these control freaks 0.67

00:16:37.160 consider to be common sense

00:16:38.860 in their bizarre, dystopian, cruel world.

00:16:42.120 Stay with us for more.

00:16:42.960 Hi, just checking in.

00:17:03.600 Sorry?

00:17:04.240 Can I help you?

00:17:05.060 Yes, I have a room.

00:17:06.220 Here?

00:17:06.840 Yeah.

00:17:08.440 This is the quarantine place, right?

00:17:11.340 You will be assisted over here, sir?

00:17:16.100 Yeah, by Omkar.

00:17:19.460 By?

00:17:20.060 Omkar! 0.73

00:17:21.280 Yes?

00:17:22.640 I have someone checking in.

00:17:25.060 I can help you.

00:17:27.880 Is this form for you guys or for the government?

00:17:30.920 For us.

00:17:34.100 February 28th, hey?

00:17:37.880 Yep.

00:17:38.940 So I can't go to the hot tub?

00:17:40.100 Yes.

00:17:41.340 But you get four fresh air breaks.

00:17:44.800 Four fresh air breaks.

00:17:45.880 Yes.

00:17:46.220 Four fresh air breaks.

00:17:47.320 Just call the front desk and schedule a time with them.

00:17:50.540 Per day.

00:17:51.300 Per day, yeah.

00:17:52.600 Eight zero, I call someone?

00:17:54.400 Yes.

00:17:55.660 So that you can place an order for the snack

00:17:57.860 and for the dinner for tonight.

00:17:59.520 Okay.

00:17:59.700 And they will also take your order for next day breakfast.

00:18:02.720 Okay.

00:18:07.240 Go ahead.

00:18:07.840 I'm so sorry.

00:18:10.140 It's a strange situation these days.

00:18:12.280 It's not your fault.

00:18:13.000 It's Justin Trudeau's fault.

00:18:16.480 Thinking he can put Canadians in jails.

00:18:20.180 This is basically jail.

00:18:21.560 Yeah, it sounds like that.

00:18:22.520 But we'll treat you in a...

00:18:23.360 Oh, I'm sure he will.

00:18:24.980 But I should be allowed to go home, see my partner.

00:18:30.600 And I was told that the locks had been removed from the doors.

00:18:36.520 Did you hear that?

00:18:37.160 I'm sorry?

00:18:37.600 The locks have been removed from the doors?

00:18:39.980 Locks.

00:18:40.680 Locks.

00:18:41.320 Like deadbolts? 0.99

00:18:43.220 Not really.

00:18:44.420 So that hasn't been the case here?

00:18:46.760 No.

00:18:47.020 Okay.

00:18:51.420 And yet, one thing has to go inside the slot here.

00:18:55.240 Okay.

00:18:55.720 And it stays here for the light.

00:18:57.820 Sure.

00:18:58.280 Okay.

00:18:58.580 Awesome.

00:18:59.340 Thank you.

00:18:59.960 Well, that is footage from our own Kian Bexty

00:19:02.060 at one of Canada's federally mandated quarantine detention centers

00:19:08.460 set up by Justin Trudeau at hotels across Canada.

00:19:12.360 That one was in Calgary.

00:19:13.920 Kian had just returned from a brief news gathering mission to the United States.

00:19:19.300 And it was a comedy of errors and no one wanting to take responsibility for things.

00:19:24.560 A shambles.

00:19:26.740 Kian is now out of that quarantine detention center.

00:19:29.880 He is at home finishing his quarantine there, having received a negative test.

00:19:36.260 He joins us now via Skype to talk about a Kian.

00:19:39.940 It looked sort of like a minimum security experience.

00:19:43.660 I mean, you had food, you were given time in the yard, you had to stay in your room 90%

00:19:48.560 of the time.

00:19:49.560 You could have broken away if you wanted to, except for we don't charge prisoners for their

00:19:55.520 minimum security incarceration.

00:19:58.760 You were charged hundreds of dollars.

00:20:01.840 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:20:02.960 We were supposed to stay in our hotel room, jail cell, whatever you want to call it, all the time,

00:20:09.500 no matter what, unless a security personnel came to escort us to our yard time.

00:20:15.860 And, you know, you mentioned that I did partake in some yard time.

00:20:19.380 We got a lot of emails from folks and even someone who works at a federal maximum security prison

00:20:27.840 and said that even his prisoners were treated better than us, given more yard time, given

00:20:32.620 more time to work out.

00:20:33.600 And they were also given better food than we were given, which wasn't a surprise to me

00:20:38.020 because if you saw the breakfast that I ate, it was pitiful.

00:20:43.320 And the fact that we were paying for it even made it worse.

00:20:47.980 You know, luckily, we have a lot of donors that support the work that we do.

00:20:52.680 But many people who are traveling are traveling because they were going to a funeral or they

00:20:57.980 were going to visit their dying brother, one individual is mentioning to me in San Francisco.

00:21:03.520 They are being forced to pay this money.

00:21:05.720 And sometimes they don't even have to stay in the hotel as long as they were made to pay

00:21:10.360 for it.

00:21:10.740 So it just it's it's a comedy of errors and really it needs to be put to an end.

00:21:16.600 This needs to stop and it needs to stop now.

00:21:18.620 Yeah.

00:21:18.900 You mentioned, for example, someone visiting dying family.

00:21:22.820 We've heard cases of people who have a medical emergency they need to travel for.

00:21:26.900 We heard a case of a victim of crime who was coming to testify had to quarantine.

00:21:32.180 But you know what?

00:21:34.120 Section six of our Charter of Rights guarantees mobility for any reason.

00:21:39.640 And it doesn't have to be a depressing reason or a cataclysmic reason.

00:21:44.900 And if you've ever read the first page of your passport, and I encourage people to do

00:21:50.640 so, it's basically a letter from the Queen to the world saying, hey, this is a Canadian

00:21:55.780 citizen.

00:21:56.720 Please give them all rights and privileges you can.

00:21:59.380 And they can come back to Canada anytime.

00:22:02.120 That's basically what a passport is.

00:22:04.700 So the fact that you can't come back into Canada, the country of your citizenship, and

00:22:10.720 go home and that you're forced to incarcerate, it's, you know, it's extra bad when it's an

00:22:17.060 important reason.

00:22:18.080 But even if it's just for a casual reason or vacation, a lot of people want a vacation.

00:22:23.640 Some people spend maybe $1,000 on a week-long vacation getaway.

00:22:27.720 They come back and then they have to spend $2,000 on their own incarceration.

00:22:32.560 It's an attack on so many basic freedoms that we used to take for granted until just a few

00:22:38.000 minutes ago.

00:22:39.520 Yeah, you're totally right about that.

00:22:40.780 It doesn't have to be this depressing story about why you left.

00:22:43.100 And everyone has this fundamental right to come and go from this country. 0.82

00:22:46.960 And frankly, you know, while I was in the COVID jail, there was, I've never actually

00:22:51.900 received such, so much vitriol from the left, from Justin Trudeau supporters, you know, people

00:22:57.900 with pronouns in their bios, saying that, oh, I shouldn't have been traveling.

00:23:01.780 And they say that I deserved it, staying in the hotel.

00:23:05.280 And, you know, I mean, that was, we knew it was going to happen.

00:23:07.700 I wasn't upset that I was in it.

00:23:08.760 I just wanted to document this story to show Canadians what other Canadians had to go through.

00:23:14.000 And it's just not fair to put them through it.

00:23:16.520 You know, Canadians have a right to go on vacation.

00:23:18.880 We were, you know, we were hard on the pro-lockdown cabinet ministers that went to Hawaii hypocritically

00:23:26.460 while they were governing this province, saying we should be locked down.

00:23:29.660 But that doesn't mean that we're opposed to other Canadians enjoying their lives, right?

00:23:33.660 Like, we support their right to leave.

00:23:35.360 We support the right to return.

00:23:36.860 But Justin Trudeau is using them as a scapegoat, right?

00:23:39.700 Like, he's using them almost to punish them, to, actually, it's not almost to punish them.

00:23:45.600 This is basically a fine.

00:23:47.160 It's a $2,000 fine for any travelers.

00:23:50.440 It's a travel fine.

00:23:51.740 And he's doing that almost to distract, I think, from the catastrophic failure that he's

00:23:56.540 had of managing this pandemic and the recovery of the pandemic.

00:24:00.480 The vaccine procurement schedule that has gone completely bonkers.

00:24:04.900 He's using third world countries to supply Canada with vaccines right now to pretend like 0.58

00:24:10.500 he's doing a good job.

00:24:11.440 And he's using these Canadians, these good Canadians who are in sometimes desperate situations

00:24:16.100 as scapegoats.

00:24:17.180 And it's really unfortunate.

00:24:19.160 Yeah.

00:24:19.640 One of the things most frustrating is the Kafkaesque feeling that no one knows what's going on,

00:24:25.680 but you have to comply anyways.

00:24:26.940 No one knows what the rules are, but you'd better follow them.

00:24:31.620 When you landed at the Calgary airport, there were some very officious, busybody-style health

00:24:37.700 authorities there.

00:24:38.960 But when you pointed out, look, Section 14 of the Quarantine Act says you can't put anything

00:24:43.900 in my body to poke and prod me.

00:24:45.900 They say, oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.

00:24:48.940 We don't have the right to do so.

00:24:51.560 But if you don't do it and if you leave, we're going to call the cops on you.

00:24:54.700 And by the way, there's a $750,000 fine.

00:24:57.720 Here's a quick clip of that exchange.

00:24:59.820 So this is who you would ask the questions to.

00:25:01.940 Great.

00:25:02.460 Hello.

00:25:03.120 Hi.

00:25:03.620 We're in for public health.

00:25:04.600 Great.

00:25:05.440 Just the people I wanted to talk to.

00:25:07.100 I've been told that I have to get a test.

00:25:09.200 Yep.

00:25:09.400 And I understand the Quarantine Act says that I can refuse a foreign body being put, foreign 1.00

00:25:17.760 object being put in my body.

00:25:19.020 It's Section 14.1 of the Quarantine Act screening technology.

00:25:22.740 It says any qualified person authorized by the minister may, to determine whether a traveler

00:25:27.120 has a communicable disease or symptoms of one, use any screening technology authorized

00:25:32.500 by the minister that does not involve the entry into the traveler's body of any instrument

00:25:36.900 or other foreign body.

00:25:40.040 So I would like to not.

00:25:43.560 Not do the test?

00:25:45.040 Yeah.

00:25:45.240 Okay.

00:25:46.260 Right.

00:25:46.620 That's your prerogative.

00:25:47.640 We just, we put it out to local law enforcement to see if they're going to take any action for

00:25:52.700 non-compliance that we put that in their hands.

00:25:54.980 Sure.

00:25:55.280 All we do is just then flag you as being non-compliant with the current laws that are

00:25:59.800 in place, but we are in no way able to force anything like you said that's into your body.

00:26:07.340 We never have, never will be able to do that.

00:26:10.040 But that's the law.

00:26:10.900 So why would law enforcement be able to penalize me for following the law and practicing my rights

00:26:16.060 to not accept this?

00:26:17.220 Well, because this is a public health emergency order put in place that to protect the public

00:26:22.240 health, we are testing all international travelers.

00:26:25.280 It says you have the right to do that.

00:26:27.040 You just don't have the right to do it with an object going into my body.

00:26:30.900 If there's any, you know, way to.

00:26:34.320 Currently, we don't have any non-invasive tests.

00:26:37.600 Okay.

00:26:39.100 You don't have any non-invasive tests?

00:26:40.900 No.

00:26:41.680 That's not my problem.

00:26:46.960 I don't know what else I can say to you.

00:26:50.080 You've read the Quarantine Act.

00:26:51.640 Yeah.

00:26:51.800 I mean, you are, if you've read the Quarantine Act, you are also aware of the enforcement

00:26:56.340 actions that can be taken in non-compliance issues.

00:26:58.760 So really, your actions are in your hands.

00:27:03.420 And whatever you do decide to do, we just follow up as per our operations.

00:27:08.840 So if you are non-compliant, then we do have to flag you up.

00:27:13.380 Well, would I be able to call my lawyer then before we do, before we make a determination?

00:27:21.240 I will not be speaking with your lawyer.

00:27:22.780 No, I'm calling my lawyer.

00:27:25.400 So Kian, they're saying, oh, no, no, no, no, no.

00:27:28.320 You don't have to take this test, but we'll call the cops if you don't.

00:27:31.580 You don't have to go to this hotel and pay two grand, or there's a $750,000 fine.

00:27:37.540 No helplines available.

00:27:39.160 The hotel didn't have answers.

00:27:40.580 They're not a law firm.

00:27:42.420 Public health numbers ring busy.

00:27:44.960 I heard of someone who made 15 repeated phone calls to the health department, every single

00:27:51.380 one of them cut off.

00:27:54.060 Part of me thinks that this is by design, as you say, to make such a mess of travel that

00:28:00.500 people say, yikes, I'm not going to travel anymore.

00:28:02.700 But part of me thinks, no, no, no.

00:28:04.400 This is just the typical incompetence of Justin Trudeau and his regime, who have never actually

00:28:11.180 really done anything in life besides pose for selfies.

00:28:13.920 They've never managed anything or run anything.

00:28:16.840 So I don't know.

00:28:17.320 Is it malice?

00:28:18.300 Is it stupidity?

00:28:19.700 I'd say probably both.

00:28:21.820 It's a mix of malice and incompetence, I think.

00:28:24.360 And you're right.

00:28:25.080 When I told the bureaucrats, and this was a story in its own right, right?

00:28:29.120 Like I said, well, Section 14.1 of the Quarantine Act says that you don't have a right to stick

00:28:33.940 anything in my body.

00:28:34.980 You can test me.

00:28:35.980 You have that right to test me to see if I have a communicable disease, which, of course,

00:28:39.920 I obviously didn't, because I took a test when I was in Florida to come back, that this

00:28:45.780 would have been my second test that wanted me to partake in.

00:28:48.120 And now I'm going to have to take a third test.

00:28:49.720 But the point is, they didn't have a right to stick something in my body, and they acknowledged

00:28:52.800 that.

00:28:53.380 But they said, oh, we don't have any non-invasive tests.

00:28:56.620 So my options were to comply with their unpreparedness and to let Justin Trudeau stick something in

00:29:03.160 my body, which sounds horrendous, but that is what it is.

00:29:07.660 So it was either comply or risk a three-quarter million dollar fine, $750,000 is the maximum

00:29:15.220 penalty.

00:29:16.040 And it could be as much as that, right?

00:29:17.340 Like whether you have a profile or not, Justin Trudeau is vindictive, and his prosecutors

00:29:22.280 are vindictive when it comes to this, and they want to make an example out of people.

00:29:26.720 So what are your options, really?

00:29:28.840 Sure, they kept saying, you won't be arrested.

00:29:31.400 We can't force you to stay here.

00:29:33.040 We're not going to pin you down and make you take this test.

00:29:35.700 But your alternative is something that is a fine that is so staggering that it could be

00:29:40.020 life crippling.

00:29:40.880 It could be life altering.

00:29:41.900 You'd go bankrupt.

00:29:42.720 You'd lose your house.

00:29:43.400 You'd lose your car.

00:29:44.560 Your family would fall apart if you got a fine like this.

00:29:47.300 So really, what's the difference if a cop comes and steamrolls you and puts you in handcuffs

00:29:51.900 versus the threat and the lack of understanding of what that fine actually could be?

00:29:58.200 Of course, you're going to comply.

00:29:59.760 And of course, I did because I wanted to go to the hotel and see the quarantine facilities

00:30:04.040 and see what was going on.

00:30:05.740 That was the primary reason.

00:30:07.800 Yeah.

00:30:07.920 So it's interesting because you had to pay for your own incarceration to comply.

00:30:11.780 But if you didn't comply, theoretically, you would be arrested and thrown in jail courtesy

00:30:17.000 of the taxpayer.

00:30:18.880 It's so strange.

00:30:19.760 It reminds me of an Edmonton where Pastor Coates is now, I think it's into his third week of

00:30:25.360 imprisonment at the maximum security facility at the Edmonton Remand Center.

00:30:29.400 So he's been in prison for more than two weeks, but actual violent criminals have been led out

00:30:36.120 of that prison because of COVID.

00:30:38.480 So it's just complete upside downism.

00:30:41.160 And I don't see law professors or civil liberties groups other than the Justice Center for Constitutional

00:30:47.340 Freedoms caring.

00:30:48.760 Now, we have started discussions with a law firm to make a constitutional challenge the

00:30:55.040 way you were handled.

00:30:55.940 Now, obviously, you're out of the COVID jail, but being forced to go in and being forced

00:31:01.860 to go through that, I think, gives you standing to make a charter challenge.

00:31:06.880 When we have finished our consultations with the lawyers, we'll make a public announcement

00:31:10.620 and let people know.

00:31:11.460 I would love it if your well-documented experience served as the catalyst to have this law thrown

00:31:20.400 out as unconstitutional.

00:31:21.800 Frankly, I think it's a winner.

00:31:23.840 There's so many things that are breached.

00:31:25.560 Your freedom and mobility, your security of the person, due process, you know, you're

00:31:33.960 basically thrown in jail without a trial.

00:31:37.740 Jailing the innocent, quarantining the healthy, none of it makes sense.

00:31:41.940 And how is any of it better than the quarantine program beforehand when you just went home?

00:31:47.360 Makes no sense to me.

00:31:48.640 But hopefully we can get something good to come out of this in the form of a charter challenge.

00:31:52.100 That's a really good point.

00:31:54.020 I wanted to elaborate on that.

00:31:55.100 I mean, the risk of the spread, say this virus was like the Ebola that they're pretending

00:32:00.680 it is.

00:32:01.620 And, you know, if I was to go to this hotel, which I did, the likelihood of that spread

00:32:06.780 is much higher with me being in that hotel.

00:32:09.140 I mean, were these hotels built with hospital-grade filters?

00:32:12.000 I don't know.

00:32:12.640 My guess is the old hotels that they're using in Montreal and in Toronto that are 40, 50 years

00:32:19.100 old, they're probably, you know, not equipped with the most latest HVAC filters and requirements

00:32:26.580 and systems that they need.

00:32:27.900 But besides that, I mean, if you watch the video, which you can see at NoCovidJails.com,

00:32:32.320 of me actually being received by this quarantine site, there was several instances when I was

00:32:38.440 within two meters of hotel staff, I was standing in an elevator, not just once, but three times

00:32:45.340 actually with hotel staff, especially when I went out to go experience my yard time.

00:32:49.900 I was in very close quarters with these people touching the same buttons.

00:32:52.560 They actually came into my room.

00:32:54.280 We walked within, you know, a foot of each other when I walked into my room.

00:32:58.940 They obviously aren't concerned about it.

00:33:00.840 They're just, this is all a show.

00:33:02.100 So when Canadians look at this, they see, well, what is really, and I'm glad we were

00:33:06.100 able to expose this because they see this and they see, well, they're obviously not taking

00:33:09.540 it super seriously at these hotels, at these quarantine sites.

00:33:12.760 So it's obviously just a show.

00:33:14.560 If I just went home, I wouldn't have talked to anyone.

00:33:16.800 I wouldn't have been in close contact with anyone.

00:33:18.480 And the risk would have been zero of me spreading it to anyone because I'm going to comply with

00:33:22.600 the quarantine when I'm here.

00:33:23.920 I mean, it would have been nice if the Alberta program, the pilot program that only required

00:33:28.300 a seven-day quarantine was still in effect, but Justin Trudeau canceled that and steamrolled

00:33:33.100 the province, which, you know, is another story in its own right.

00:33:36.840 But I'm going to comply with my quarantine.

00:33:38.920 It just, I could have just gone, now I've been at two places and seen dozens of people.

00:33:44.680 It just doesn't make sense.

00:33:46.000 So what is the reasoning here?

00:33:47.980 Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:33:49.480 You know, after 9-11, we went, we built this whole expensive infrastructure around air travel

00:33:55.220 that I don't think in 20 years has ever got a terrorist.

00:33:58.240 I call it security theater.

00:34:01.840 And I think what you went through is public health theater.

00:34:06.160 I don't think it would have stopped an infection if you had it.

00:34:10.500 I don't think it made any scientific sense.

00:34:13.360 But it was just for show, for theater, to scare people, to punish people, and probably

00:34:19.100 to reward liberal cronies, who I'm sure are amongst those who've received these fat contracts.

00:34:24.240 We'll look forward to the rest of your reports.

00:34:26.880 I know you're going to be in quarantine at home now, but hopefully something good will

00:34:31.260 come from this.

00:34:31.940 And if we do file a constitutional challenge, we'll let the world know.

00:34:35.960 You're at home now, so, you know, I guess my advice wouldn't be stay safe.

00:34:39.840 It would be try not to get too bored, but keep up the work from home.

00:34:44.180 Try not to lose my mind.

00:34:45.300 Thanks, Ezra.

00:34:45.840 Okay, see you later.

00:34:46.820 There you have it.

00:34:47.560 Ian Bexty, you can see all our vids on this topic at NoCovidJails.com.

00:34:52.420 Stay with us.

00:34:52.860 Hey, welcome back.

00:35:05.620 On my show last night, Robert writes, CBC has triggered that people would rather hear

00:35:09.700 what Trump has to say than their love pieces over Trudeau.

00:35:13.260 Yeah, I just keep laughing at Alex Panetta who says, oh my God, people are listening to

00:35:16.600 Trump instead of our life-saving reports.

00:35:19.520 Life-saving.

00:35:20.420 You know, I like a guy with high self-esteem, and I guess if you're in the journalism business,

00:35:25.560 you have to have a bit of arrogance.

00:35:27.240 I mean, you're writing something, and you have to assume people really want to read what

00:35:31.440 you have to write.

00:35:32.160 I get it.

00:35:32.940 You need some narcissism to be a journalist.

00:35:35.260 But, mate, I don't think you're saving any lives with your listicles about, you know,

00:35:39.980 the top 10 cool ways that Rihanna is reacting to the lockdown.

00:35:44.420 Yeah, I just don't think you're saving lives, mate.

00:35:47.400 Julie writes, was amazing to see and hear President Trump.

00:35:50.560 Again, his talk wasn't long enough.

00:35:52.320 I could listen to him all day long.

00:35:54.180 Well, you can find his whole speech on YouTube.

00:35:56.080 It was 90 minutes.

00:35:57.840 I thought it was a pretty good speech.

00:35:59.780 Debbie writes, Trump is the news.

00:36:01.600 He tells the truth, and people know it.

00:36:02.980 Well, I come back to that Alex Panetta tweet.

00:36:06.600 He was really mad that people wanted to hear directly from Trump, or even about Trump on

00:36:11.360 the CBC.

00:36:12.320 No one cares about Joe Biden, because I think we all know that Joe Biden isn't really the

00:36:16.520 decider, is he?

00:36:18.120 That's the show for today.

00:36:19.240 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:36:22.860 good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:36:32.980 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - March 03, 2021

CHILD ABUSE： Ontario requires young children to quarantine by themselves, with zero contact from parents!

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