Rebel News Podcast - January 09, 2020


China rents rumoured Conservative leadership candidate Jean Charest for Huawei case

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Is Jean Charest going to run for the Conservative Party of Canada or the Communist Party of China? Ezra takes a look at the possibility, and explains why he thinks Charest is a better choice than Maxime Bernier for the next Tory leadership.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Today, I talk a little bit more about the Conservative Party's looming
00:00:04.480 leadership race. It's going to be here faster than you think. 300 grand just as an entry fee.
00:00:11.680 Today, I took a look at Jean Charest, whose name is being bandied about,
00:00:15.720 and some news that he's actually been working for the Chinese government. What do you think
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00:00:59.340 Tonight, is Jean Charest going to run for the Conservative Party of Canada or the Communist
00:01:06.860 Party of China? It's January 8th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:11.020 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:16.860 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:20.920 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:01:25.800 right to do so.
00:01:26.780 I see that Jean Charest is being touted as a potential leader of the Conservative Party
00:01:36.760 of Canada. As you know, Andrew Scheer says he's going to resign, even though he hasn't
00:01:41.360 yet, and the party has apparently scheduled a leadership vote for June. As Andrew Lawton
00:01:47.100 and I discussed yesterday, the party has an extremely high entry fee, $300,000 just for
00:01:52.200 the privilege of running. And then you've actually got to raise money to actually run.
00:01:56.920 So there's no way to run if you have less than half a million bucks at your fingertips.
00:02:01.220 I shouldn't say no way. For example, Bernie Sanders in the States has shown that you can
00:02:08.720 raise a staggering amount of money in small increments on the internet if you build a genuine
00:02:15.320 presence. But Bernie Sanders has been a congressman and then a senator for decades, and of course
00:02:22.140 he ran in 2016 in the Democratic primaries against Hillary Clinton. And it's widely admitted that
00:02:28.300 she stole that election from him, as in he was winning with actual party members, but she won by
00:02:33.680 gaming the rules and winning what's called the superdelegates. Those are party insiders who are given
00:02:39.080 extra power within the party than normal members. I truly think that the way Clinton beat Sanders in
00:02:45.960 the primary turned off a good portion of the Democratic Party's base. And though Sanders is a
00:02:52.120 full-blown socialist, even more so than Clinton, he has an authenticity and a sort of blue-collar appeal
00:02:57.440 that Clinton just doesn't. I wonder if Sanders would have beat Trump head-to-head in 2016, especially in
00:03:04.460 key states like Wisconsin and Michigan and Ohio. What do you think? Obviously, we'll never know, but it's
00:03:09.300 something to think about. Sorry for that tangent, but it all goes to my point. Bernie Sanders can raise
00:03:16.400 millions of dollars because he's been a fighting champion for the socialist movement and then for
00:03:22.080 the Democratic Party for years and decades. And he has a national and obviously even a global reputation,
00:03:27.960 and a lot of people sort of think he was robbed. And my point is, that's why he can raise a ton of money
00:03:35.220 online. But can you name for me someone in Canada in the conservative movement who could match that,
00:03:42.580 even proportionately? It should have been Maxime Bernier. If he could have stayed within the
00:03:49.120 conservative party and not split away, he would absolutely have been their heir apparent today.
00:03:54.480 He would have had the same feeling that Sanders has, that he should have been the candidate last time.
00:04:00.040 He was robbed, et cetera. But that bridge is burned. And then the burnt out bridge was nuked. And then
00:04:06.000 the remnants of that were dynamited. And then there was an earthquake. So that bridge is gone. Can you
00:04:12.440 name me someone else in Canada who can come in and muster that kind of support? Jason Kenney could,
00:04:19.240 but he's busy as premier of Alberta now. Maybe Brad Wall, maybe the former premier Saskatchewan,
00:04:25.200 but probably not. He's not as well known nationally. And he's ruled it out, of course.
00:04:30.880 I like Pierre Polyev, who announced his campaign this week. It will be chaired by John Baird,
00:04:36.340 the former cabinet minister. I like Pierre Polyev because he's conservative, but more to the point,
00:04:41.540 because he fights. Unlike Andrew Scheer, who let the media party steal his lunch money every day,
00:04:48.640 Polyev fights back hard enough to put the media in their place, but not so viciously hard as to turn them
00:04:54.360 mercilessly against him. That's a balancing act. Here's a recent exchange between him
00:05:00.060 and the media that I sort of liked. The only people talking about recession consistently are
00:05:05.180 the conservatives. Why are you so offside with the independent projections? Well, actually,
00:05:09.320 the liberals are offside with their own projections. Remember, the liberals, the liberals,
00:05:15.120 yeah, but I'm talking deficit. GDP, talking recession, talk about the economy for a second.
00:05:20.760 No one is saying it except you guys. Okay. So let me help you out with the definition
00:05:25.400 of a recession. I'm aware of your textbook definition. But I will say, as Reagan said,
00:05:36.580 that a recession is when your neighbor loses his job. A depression is when you lose your job.
00:05:46.140 And a recovery is when Justin Trudeau loses his job.
00:05:50.640 With John Baird on his team, and I think Jenny Byrne, who ran Stephen Harper's last campaign,
00:05:56.460 with Baird and Byrne helping him, I think he's got a real chance. But who else could muster
00:06:02.020 a half a mil almost immediately? Well, the answer is obviously the candidates of the old red Tory
00:06:11.140 dynasties, the old school Laurentian elites. Peter McKay, son of Elmer McKay. Peter McKay's
00:06:19.800 greatest accomplishment was, I guess, shepherding the merger of the progressive conservatives with
00:06:26.320 the Canadian Alliance Party. Give the man credit for that deal. Or maybe it's the opposite of the
00:06:31.380 credit. Maybe Stephen Harper ran circles around him as they negotiated with each other. Either way,
00:06:35.840 good for Peter McKay, but a fairly unremarkable cabinet minister in his own right. He was
00:06:40.480 justice minister for a while, and I challenge you to name a single conservative judge appointed in
00:06:46.980 his tenure. Well, I can actually name one, but that's it. Out of the dozens and dozens and dozens
00:06:53.860 and dozens, hundreds of judges appointed over Harper's tenure, did you know that Stephen Harper
00:06:59.380 appointed eight Supreme Court of Canada judges? Eight. There's only nine on the whole bench.
00:07:05.580 Now, some of them retired and he replaced them. Eight Supreme Court justices, courts of appeal,
00:07:13.580 federal courts, et cetera. He could have completely remade Canada's legal system the same way Donald
00:07:20.500 Trump is doing in America. Instead, Harper let Peter McKay indulge in patronage politics and red
00:07:27.500 Tories are full out liberals. But yeah, that's Peter McKay. Old family, old red Tory. He could raise a
00:07:34.840 half a million and a few phone calls, phone calls to bundlers and fixers like Brian Mulroney.
00:07:42.080 Or maybe their Mulroney candidate would be this guy, Jean Charest. Seems like he's been around
00:07:48.640 forever, doesn't it? That's because he got into politics pretty much right after school. He was
00:07:53.940 briefly the Tory leader after Kim Campbell destroyed the Conservative Party in 1993. Then Charest saw a better
00:08:01.380 opportunity for himself and he switched to being a liberal and became the Premier of Quebec, overseeing
00:08:07.240 one of the most corrupt governments in recent Canadian history. I don't have any evidence and
00:08:12.120 Jean Charest himself took bribes. I won't, I won't say that. But pretty much every other liberal
00:08:18.120 politician in the province during that period of time was charged with some sort of crooked
00:08:23.680 kickback scheme. Who knows? Maybe Charest was the only saint in the entire province.
00:08:30.040 But yeah, Charest is actually being touted as a Conservative Party leader, as if the one thing the
00:08:35.240 party got wrong in the last election was its opposition to the carbon tax. Charest proposes,
00:08:41.380 promotes the carbon tax. But still, who else could muster half a million bucks in 10 days?
00:08:47.720 But here comes big news from the Globe and Mail, which is doing good work on the China file. Let me
00:08:53.320 say what I said before about the coverage of Jody Wilson-Raybould. The Globe and Mail covers the China
00:08:58.740 file excellently. I mean, really admirable, a real public service speaking truth to power, which is hard to
00:09:06.120 do for the media party. Look at this. Charest advising Huawei in Meng Wanzhou case and on 5G networks. Let me read a
00:09:14.640 little bit. Former Quebec Premier Jean Charest, who is contemplating a run for the Conservative Party
00:09:20.160 leadership, has been acting as a consultant to Huawei Technologies Company Limited in the Meng Wanzhou
00:09:25.760 extradition case and the tech giant's efforts to participate in Canada's 5G wireless networks,
00:09:32.060 a source says. Mr. Charest is part of a team in the law firm McCarthy Tetreault, including former
00:09:37.720 Privy Council Clerk Wayne Wooters, that Huawei retained in the summer to offer strategic advice.
00:09:44.640 Now, I want to let you know, I believe everyone has the right to a lawyer if they're charged with a crime.
00:09:50.420 Even guilty people. Meng Wanzhou is fighting her extradition to the U.S., where they want her for financial
00:09:58.320 crimes. I believe she deserves the right to a lawyer. And I believe a lawyer can represent her in that 0.99
00:10:04.300 extradition matter without being pro-communist or pro-China or pro-Huwei. Our system sort of depends on lawyers to help
00:10:12.060 people charge with things, even if they're guilty, by the way. But that second part of his retainer,
00:10:18.840 Charest is helping to lobby, it sounds like, or at least provide some political strategy
00:10:25.320 to get China's massive Huawei telecom company into Canada's phone and computer networks.
00:10:33.380 So that's not defending an accused criminal and providing justice where needed. That's promoting
00:10:38.620 China, promoting China's dictatorship. That's putting our national security at risk. That's 0.87
00:10:44.320 choosing China over the United States, where even the Democrats say Huawei is dangerous. Here,
00:10:51.520 just a reminder, here's Democrat Susan Rice, who was Obama's national security advisor. 0.99
00:10:56.660 It gives the Chinese the ability, if they choose to use it, to access all kinds of information,
00:11:07.260 civilian intelligence, military, that could be very, very compromising. So I, much as I disagree
00:11:14.340 with the Trump administration on a number of things on this, their concern about Huawei, I believe they're
00:11:19.840 right. As a matter of protection, would the United States have to have a slightly different
00:11:24.280 security relationship with Canada? Yes. We can't. Yes. And that will throw the five eyes
00:11:28.100 collaboration, which is, serves the security interests of every Canadian and every American
00:11:34.800 into jeopardy. It, we just, it, it can't be done. Can't share. I don't see how we can share in the
00:11:42.700 way we have. It's not a joke. It's truly serious. The fact that in addition to Charest,
00:11:50.960 the former clerk of the Privy Council, Wayne Wooters, the former top bureaucrat in Canada,
00:11:56.960 who knows all the secrets, who knows the inside track, who knows the government's thinking,
00:12:01.120 the fact that he's now happily working for a foreign power, that's super gross, even more gross 0.99
00:12:06.580 than a former premier doing the same. A source, let me read some more from the Globe article. A source
00:12:11.560 said, Mr. Charest and Mr. Wooters are providing strategic advice to Huawei. This includes intelligence
00:12:18.160 and policy advice on understanding the extradition process facing Ms. Meng, the chief financial
00:12:24.500 officer and daughter of the company founder, Ren Zhengfei. They are also advising Huawei as it
00:12:31.060 seeks approval to sell equipment for the construction of Canada's 5G networks. The federal government is
00:12:35.980 conducting a cyber security review to determine whether Canada should bar the Chinese high-tech 0.77
00:12:40.860 firm from participating in the next generation of wireless technology as the United States and Australia
00:12:46.180 have. So like I say, China is renting out former senior Canadian politicians and bureaucrats to battle
00:12:54.600 our current senior politicians and bureaucrats because Charest and Wooters are for rent.
00:13:01.620 Now, I get it. Everyone has to pay the bills. Some people want, I don't know, four or five cars,
00:13:08.440 two or three homes. They want that millionaire lifestyle that, so badly that they'll sell out their
00:13:13.320 own country. Nothing illegal about it, just super gross. But imagine thinking that you can do that,
00:13:21.660 go get the Chinese money, sell out your country's security interests, and then come back to the public 1.00
00:13:29.820 life and run for public office after having taken private payments from a foreign power.
00:13:36.460 Well, I guess that does make him the perfect red Tory, doesn't it? And it certainly clears up any 0.77
00:13:42.800 doubts about Charest's ability to raise significant funds quickly, doesn't it? How much did Charest
00:13:48.460 charge Huawei to say this? Let me quote from the Globe. Our policy towards China has been hijacked by
00:13:54.400 Donald Trump, Mr. Charest said. We should not be kowtowing to another government with regard to our
00:13:59.980 relationship with China. Imagine saying that, that we're kowtowing to our closest friend and ally and
00:14:06.860 fellow democracy in the United States. Whereas, in fact, China is the dictatorship that has seized and
00:14:13.480 held Canadian hostages for more than two years. But Charest's badmouthing America? And you want to
00:14:18.640 be prime minister? Yeah, I'm grateful for this Globe and Mail article. I think, if I know conservatives at
00:14:24.340 all, that Jean Charest can come up with his 300 grand, 500 grand, whatever. Sure, yeah, no problem.
00:14:29.660 But I think he's going to get blown out of the water if he runs for conservative leader in Canada.
00:14:34.880 But I see a very promising future for Jean Charest, running for the leadership of the local Communist
00:14:40.840 Party cadre in Shenzhen, where Huawei is located. Of course, they don't have to compete in elections over
00:14:48.800 there now, do they? Stay with us for more.
00:15:03.340 As long as I'm president of the United States, Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.
00:15:12.220 Good morning. Good morning. I'm pleased to inform you, the American people should be extremely
00:15:20.580 grateful and happy. No Americans were harmed in last night's attack by the Iranian regime.
00:15:31.500 Trump went on, that was his remarks this morning, went on to explain that, in his view, the show
00:15:39.260 of fireworks by Iran, nothing deadly, not even injuries, just a lot of hollering and flash
00:15:46.580 bang, was the equivalent of Iran standing down, of Iran blinking in the face of Donald Trump's
00:15:55.420 threats to hit 52 targets in Iran if they push back, a symbolic number chosen for the 52 American
00:16:04.480 hostages taken by the Ayatollahs in 1979. It's been an incredible week or so. World War III was a 0.98
00:16:14.360 phrase bandied about, and now it looks like Donald Trump is the peacemaker. Even his critics say it's
00:16:22.280 a new, I'm not going to say new world order, but I give you the example of Ian Bremmer, who is
00:16:29.000 Gerald Butts, new employer of the Eurasia Group, who says this is a remarkable opportunity for peace.
00:16:35.420 Joining us now via Skype from the LAX airport, where he's about to follow the news around the
00:16:41.460 country, is our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large at Breitbart.com. I tell you, you need to follow
00:16:49.000 the story every few hours, Joel. Not long ago, people were thinking we're on the verge of World War III.
00:16:54.620 Donald Trump, I think, kept his cool, realized that the Iranians must have been aiming to miss, 1.00
00:17:01.160 because they literally did not hit in a single American soldier, and said, yeah, I'll take that
00:17:07.260 as a win. I think it looks great on him. What do you think? Well, it's a great day for the world,
00:17:13.400 actually, because not only did Donald Trump clearly establish a new deterrent, or restore a deterrent,
00:17:22.240 really, against attacking Americans or killing Americans. He also managed to keep the United
00:17:28.720 States thus far out of any kind of intense military engagement in the Middle East. So it's a win-win, 0.99
00:17:36.600 because the Soleimani strike was so effective and so shocking that it reset the game. And we are now in
00:17:45.860 a situation where Americans are not afraid. In fact, Americans feel safer than ever before,
00:17:51.680 whether in uniform or out. The president has made it very clear there's a price for harming American
00:17:58.280 civilians or soldiers. Meanwhile, Iran wakes up today with the same problems they had before,
00:18:03.720 even worse, perhaps. The regime saves face by telling its people that it responded with military
00:18:08.860 strikes and so forth. But they still have these crushing sanctions on their economy. They're about to
00:18:13.020 get more. They're still isolated from the rest of the world. The only win they really got was getting
00:18:18.220 rid of Soleimani, because there are plenty of Iranians, possibly within the regime itself, who
00:18:22.420 were tired of all the proxy wars and so forth, all the money they were wasting on controlling Syria,
00:18:29.660 you know, not exactly prime real estate. So they're a winner in that sense. But the real winner is Donald
00:18:35.280 Trump and the American people. Of course, we are thinking also about the Canadians who lost their
00:18:43.560 lives on that Ukrainian Boeing 737 that crashed. We don't know exactly what happened. And that'll be
00:18:50.760 interesting to find out. It may be that Iranian defenses were responsible for mistakenly shooting
00:18:56.620 that aircraft down. I don't know why the aircraft weren't grounded coming out of Tehran during
00:19:00.560 airstrikes against the United States and against Iraq. But, you know, you see a number of Canadians
00:19:06.320 on that flight. You just do heartbreaks. Certainly other people on board as well, but just so many
00:19:10.860 Canadians. So while we're celebrating the fact that there were no American casualties, but we are also
00:19:16.100 thinking about the victims of that terrible crash. And we need to know what's going on. Of course,
00:19:20.040 Iran is hiding the black boxes, maybe because those black boxes would reveal that there was nothing
00:19:24.500 wrong with the plane. It's a new plane. It's only four years old. And according to the Ukrainian 1.00
00:19:29.280 airline, it's one of their best planes with their most experienced crews. So we're going to have to
00:19:34.160 see what happens there. There's going to be more coming out about that. But in general, the world is
00:19:38.000 a safer place. The United States has established a deterrent. Iran has responded, but without 0.94
00:19:43.720 escalating essentially. And nobody's going to have to go to war. This is what people voted for. They
00:19:50.600 voted to get out of wars in the Middle East, but also at the same time to be safe from rogue states like 0.75
00:19:55.240 Iran. And it's just, it's a big win all around. You know, it, it was your absolute Trumpian
00:20:03.720 negotiating strategy. And, and it's such a startling approach. And I, I recommend for the
00:20:11.160 dozenth time that people read the book, Art of the Deal. And of course it was co-written with a
00:20:17.160 ghostwriter. But the ideas there are pure Trump, the purpose of hyperbole, the purpose of the ability
00:20:25.120 to walk away from a negotiation. When Trump said, I'm threatening 52 targets will devastate you.
00:20:32.240 The world clucked and said, that's warmongering. That's over the top. But I think that was the kind
00:20:38.060 of raw language that actually connected with the Ayatollahs much more than the constant appeasement of
00:20:44.920 the Obama regime. And I, I mean, it must have taken, I mean, let's come back to that, uh, crashed jet
00:20:51.540 liner in a minute. But other than that huge possible exception, it must have taken quite some effort by
00:20:58.820 the Iranians to fire, what, 20 missiles and have every single one of them miss. I'm certain to miss on 1.00
00:21:07.680 purpose, lest they provoke Trump's 52 strikes. I, I mean, it, it's like a, two dogs met each other
00:21:15.600 and growled and one of them went away whimpering with its tail between its legs. I can't think of,
00:21:20.840 I mean, it was such a stare down and only a quote bully like Trump could have done it. What do you
00:21:25.800 think, Joel? Well, I don't want to overstate the accuracy of Iranian missile targeting. First of all,
00:21:33.060 I'm at an airport right now, as you can see in the background, airports take up massive amounts of
00:21:39.380 space. The part of an airport where a person might actually be found is probably minuscule. Let's say
00:21:44.780 5% of the total surface area of the airport. And same is true on military bases. You've been on a
00:21:50.680 military air base. You know that there's a lot of land there. There's some runway too, and, you know,
00:21:55.800 some buildings and so forth, but these are big targets. And if you want to aim a missile at them,
00:22:00.680 you don't exactly have to have the best precision guided, you know, GPS positioning to, to manage to
00:22:08.580 hit the base, but not hit any people. I don't want to overstate the accuracy of Iranian missiles, 0.86
00:22:13.900 because of course, four of the 15 missiles were reportedly lost in light. So that tells you
00:22:18.780 they're not actually that capable. I mean, good for them, I suppose, for aiming to miss, so to speak.
00:22:25.300 But, you know, again, the jury is still out on that. We don't know what happened with the jetliner.
00:22:29.440 We don't know what it was hit by. And the Iranians lost basically a third of their missiles in
00:22:34.740 flight. So Iran is not only perhaps standing down here wisely, but they've also been revealed to be 0.92
00:22:42.960 a bit of a paper tiger. I mean, nobody's afraid of Iranian missiles in quite the same way after 0.99
00:22:49.260 last night. They're just not as scary. Yes, they can cause devastation and destruction, but
00:22:54.100 they may not work. You know, and one of the only reasons the missiles hit the bases at all is that
00:23:00.280 the United States missile defense systems were deployed elsewhere. You know, we have military
00:23:05.000 bases that are actual American bases in various Arab countries in the region. This was an Iraqi
00:23:10.220 base. It's not an American base. These are the two bases that were hit. These are Iraqi military
00:23:14.460 bases where we happen to have troops stationed. But they're not U.S. bases, really. So Iran knew that,
00:23:20.380 and they went for a base that would be undefended and also one that wouldn't trigger a necessary
00:23:26.540 retaliation to reestablish a greater deterrent by the United States. So you give them credit in a
00:23:32.720 sense strategically. Iran did, I think, the smartest thing they could do under the circumstances.
00:23:37.340 But I think their military hardware is just not up to scratch. I mean, again, four out of 15
00:23:42.460 missiles lost in flight. We don't know what happened with the civilian jet airplane that crashed,
00:23:47.020 what hit it. It probably isn't mechanical failure. You know, if Iran were being belligerent
00:23:52.400 and bellicose, they would have blamed the United States for taking out the civilian airliner. It's
00:23:55.840 happened before. We have actually accidentally downed an Iranian plane, a civilian plane before. 0.72
00:24:01.260 So they could have blamed us, and then there would have been this scramble to find what actually
00:24:05.060 happened. And they have the black boxes, so we never would have found out. But the fact that they
00:24:09.740 came out right away within basically minutes and said it was mechanical failure, and now they're not
00:24:14.240 handing over the black boxes, that tells you they may have missed whatever they were aiming at,
00:24:19.180 or they may have misfired. And, you know, so Iran looks a lot weaker today militarily. Domestically,
00:24:26.180 where they control the media, they probably look a little stronger. But again, we've taken out
00:24:32.040 their top general, the architect of their regional hegemony, Qasem Soleimani is dead. And all they did was
00:24:40.680 essentially put on a fireworks show. They didn't really cause us any damage whatsoever. So again,
00:24:47.320 big win for the United States. The other interesting thing about Trump's remarks,
00:24:51.340 and this was really the part I did not foresee, because when the first missile reports started
00:24:56.560 coming in, I actually said, I was being interviewed at the time, and I said, let's hold off and wait to
00:25:01.220 see what happens. This could just be saving face by the regime. These missiles tend not to hit anything.
00:25:05.360 And that turned out to be correct. But the one thing I didn't foresee was that Trump would use
00:25:08.700 this episode to pressure the Europeans and to pressure NATO. He basically said to Europe in
00:25:14.360 his speech, you guys have to pull out of the rest of the Iran deal, whatever remnants are left of the
00:25:18.660 Iran deal. They are now over. We need your help now on sanctions. Don't give the regime a financial 0.95
00:25:23.580 lifeline. Don't give them any diplomatic support. You are the loophole on this entire arrangement.
00:25:28.700 Come back together. Now we have a military deterrent. Now people believe and understand I will use
00:25:32.820 the military option. Now we can get a better deal and really remove Iran as a nuclear threat to the 0.96
00:25:38.480 world. So he's putting pressure on Europe. He told NATO they have to step up and lead peace efforts in
00:25:42.660 the Middle East. So that's going to be interesting to watch. Here's a quick clip of that NATO reference
00:25:48.680 from Trump. Take a look at this. The very defective JCPOA expires shortly anyway and gives Iran a clear and
00:25:59.360 quick path to nuclear breakout. Iran must abandon its nuclear ambitions and end its support for terrorism. 0.90
00:26:09.360 The time has come for the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Russia, and China to recognize this reality.
00:26:19.360 They must now break away from the remnants of the Iran deal or JCPOA. And we must all work together to
00:26:29.340 toward making a deal with Iran that makes the world a safer and more peaceful place. Today I am going to ask
00:26:39.340 NATO to become much more involved in the Middle East process.
00:26:45.340 So I want to pick up one more thing that you said. Of course, I was focused on the big World War Three 0.62
00:26:51.340 possibility and the amazing turn of events. But you're right. 63 Canadians are dead. What surprised me 0.98
00:27:01.340 when I looked at the Canadian foreign minister's first statement about this is that he said he was
00:27:07.340 going to contact Ukraine, not Iran, when the plane crashed in Iran. I think
00:27:17.340 you mentioned earlier that the plane is new. It's four years old. It has a senior crew that Iran within 0.99
00:27:23.340 minutes said it was a mechanical problem. And most suspiciously, they won't hand over the black boxes.
00:27:31.340 I think if you believe that this was an accident that just happened to be perfectly timed to when Iran was 0.78
00:27:39.340 shooting missiles and shooting things down, I think it takes the same sort of credulity to believe that
00:27:47.340 Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself. I just think there's some coincidences that are too dark and you have to
00:27:55.340 really be naive to accept them without due diligence. I think that Canada, and I hate to say this, I think
00:28:03.340 Canada lacks the courage to champion those 63 dead Canadians and the others and to challenge Iran 1.00
00:28:11.340 and to do a proper investigation. I think Trudeau in particular, his brother, Alexandra, has done propaganda
00:28:17.340 films with press TV. That's Iran's public broadcaster. I think that Trudeau's own caucus has pro-Iran MPs
00:28:27.340 like Majid Johari. I think that because of ideology sympathies, Trudeau will actually let the death of 63 Canadians,
00:28:39.340 which I believe the most likely explanation was being shot down, not on purpose by Iran, but through negligence
00:28:47.340 or an accident. I think Trudeau is going to let that slide. I don't know if you have any thoughts on that.
00:28:53.340 Maybe that's a Canadian insider's question. But the more I think about it, the more I see already the seeds that Trudeau
00:28:59.340 is not going to ask questions because he doesn't want a moral fight with Iran.
00:29:03.340 Well, maybe the families of those Canadians will have something to say about it. I mean, that's going to be hard for him to maintain.
00:29:11.340 All that's needed is for a couple of those families to come forward and demand answers.
00:29:15.340 And I think it'll be a political nightmare for him to continue in a passive way.
00:29:20.340 I think people deserve answers. And also, the Iranians must be upset about it. 1.00
00:29:26.340 I mean, Iran's going to have to come out with some answers because Iranians want to be able to travel. 0.93
00:29:31.340 You know, they can't travel everywhere because of all the sanctions and so forth.
00:29:34.340 But when you're no longer confident in your country's ability to fly airplanes in and out of your major international airport,
00:29:41.340 that changes your life significantly. I think that they have to demand answers and they will.
00:29:45.340 And I think the regime will have to come up with some explanation.
00:29:48.340 When you say mechanical failure, I mean, especially because it's an American plane.
00:29:53.340 Why not detail all the mechanical reasons this failed? It's a Boeing.
00:29:57.340 Boeing's had a lot of problems lately with a 737 MAX, although this wasn't one of those.
00:30:02.340 But there's going to be pressure in Iran as well.
00:30:05.340 The regime is a totalitarian regime, but it's not immune to those kinds of popular pressures that have nothing to do with politics.
00:30:10.340 People want to know. There are Iranians in that plane as well.
00:30:12.340 I think Iranians with the single largest nationality on that plane.
00:30:15.340 There are Iranians in that plane. They want to know that it's safe to travel.
00:30:18.340 Yeah.
00:30:19.340 And I think that people are going to want to know.
00:30:21.340 So, you know, I don't think Trudeau is going to be in for an easy ride if he tries that.
00:30:26.340 Well, it would be very interesting.
00:30:28.340 Well, thank you.
00:30:29.340 And I hope you travel safely.
00:30:31.340 Thank you very much.
00:30:32.340 Thank you for jamming us in as you wait to board your plane.
00:30:35.340 Joel, great to see you again.
00:30:36.340 Thanks, my friend.
00:30:37.340 You too. Thank you.
00:30:38.340 Joel Pollack, senior editor at large of Breitbart dot com.
00:30:41.340 And we'll certainly keep an eye peeled for what Trudeau says and does about this downed Ukrainian jetliner.
00:30:48.340 Stay with us.
00:30:49.340 More ahead on.
00:30:58.340 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about the 200 arsonists behind Australia's bushfires.
00:31:03.340 Louise writes, not a single mention of this in the UK.
00:31:06.340 Imagine my shock.
00:31:07.340 Also, the Green Party voted against backburning in cooler months.
00:31:11.340 Yeah.
00:31:12.340 Well, listen, there's real explanations for fires.
00:31:17.340 It sounds like 87% of the fires in Australia were either accidents like, you know, the military accidentally setting off fires or matches or accidents or arson.
00:31:28.340 87%.
00:31:30.340 That's boring, I guess, compared to the global warming fairy.
00:31:36.340 Chris writes, ending forest management programs and arson are the biggest reasons for the fires in Australia.
00:31:42.340 Well, yeah, if you'll recall, it was the same for the awful Fort McMurray fire in Alberta a few years ago.
00:31:50.340 Rob writes, those are the ones caught red handed.
00:31:53.340 I bet many more started fires and didn't get caught because nobody saw and the evidence was burnt.
00:31:58.340 Well, that's a very good point.
00:32:00.340 So you got 200 people charged and arrested rather.
00:32:03.340 To arrest someone, you have to have a certain burden of proof.
00:32:06.340 I read that one story of a helicopter spotting people.
00:32:11.340 But, I mean, how many helicopters are there over the entire massive country of Australia?
00:32:16.340 It's a very large country geographically.
00:32:18.340 The odds of spotting an arsonist, I put it to you, are low.
00:32:22.340 And yet they've spotted 200.
00:32:24.340 So I think that's a very wise point you make.
00:32:26.340 200 arsonists that we know about.
00:32:29.340 Well, that's our show for today.
00:32:31.340 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.
00:32:35.340 And keep fighting for freedom.