Rebel News Podcast - Iran shot down a Ukrainian plane, killing 63 Canadians： What will Trudeau do about it？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today I go through a startling day in military affairs, diplomacy, and I guess

00:00:09.260 self-respect. I show how Justin Trudeau reacts to the news that Iran shot down an airliner

00:00:16.400 killing 63 Canadian citizens. Just unbelievable. And who he blames will knock your socks off.

00:00:23.160 So that's the show today. Lots of video clips, which you can see in the video format of this

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00:00:40.460 the clips, the charts. I show a chart of foreign aid from Canada to Iran. Did you know that we

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00:00:55.340 month. Okay, here's the podcast.

00:00:59.360 Tonight, Iran shot down the Ukrainian airline that crashed, killing 63 Canadians.

00:01:17.620 So what's Trudeau going to do about it? It's January 9th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:22.740 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:28.640 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:32.700 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my

00:01:37.300 bloody right to do so.

00:01:43.900 Iran-backed terrorists physically attacked the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad on December 31st.

00:01:50.260 They didn't get in, but it looked terrifying, a reminder of how al-Qaeda terrorists smashed 0.61

00:01:56.000 through the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya in 2012 with impunity under Barack Obama and Hillary

00:02:02.500 Clinton. Now, Donald Trump is very different. Instead of turning the other cheek, he literally

00:02:07.600 sent in the Marines, flying in 100 or so from nearby Kuwait. Just in case you couldn't tell,

00:02:14.000 he was different from the appeasement stance of the past, Trump tweeted that this would

00:02:19.300 be his anti-Benghazi, as in don't mess with him. You know, pay attention to Trump's tweets.

00:02:27.280 I think you'll learn more from them by watching the nightly news. He issued what he called a

00:02:32.360 threat, not a warning. See that there? To Iran for staging the attack. And sure enough, 0.99

00:02:38.320 he had a precision airstrike against the number two man in Iran, Qasem Soleimani, the terrorist

00:02:47.260 general. Oh, did Iran gnash their teeth at that one. Look at this. Generals crying on TV about their

00:02:54.400 lost terrorist hero. They threatened America so badly, but Trump threatened them back, saying if they

00:03:02.560 touched an American, Trump would flatten not one but 52 Iranian targets. The whole world was worried

00:03:11.380 was at the start of World War III. And then Iran blinked. They fired about 15 rockets, not at

00:03:21.100 Americans, but at Iraqi air bases. There were some Americans on those bases, but not one was hurt.

00:03:29.020 Of the 15 rockets we know about, by the way, four didn't even go properly. The missiles failed.

00:03:37.380 Iran essentially set off some fireworks. They also published really tough-looking photos and videos 0.90

00:03:43.740 of their supposed massive counterattack, but they were quickly shown to be fakes. More accurately,

00:03:51.900 photos from earlier battles elsewhere. As in, Iran was just trying to look tough to its own people. 0.64

00:03:59.020 But it backed down. It blinked. And so Trump had a triumphant press conference. Take a look.

00:04:07.260 Iran appears to be standing down, which is a good thing for all parties concerned and a very good 1.00

00:04:13.980 thing for the world. Not only was World War III averted, but America and Iran and the world,

00:04:22.640 well, they all look a little bit different, don't they? America no longer looks like a helpless giant

00:04:28.880 as it was under Obama and Hillary Clinton. If you touch a single American, if you shoot an American 0.98

00:04:34.980 base or embassy, get ready to be flattened. Everyone in the world knows that now, beyond a shadow of 0.98

00:04:41.400 doubt. The whole world knows also that Iran has a bit of BS and bluster. I mean, of course, 1.00

00:04:47.640 it should be feared. They're terrorists. They'll kill you. But not to the point of being so afraid 0.74

00:04:52.480 that you appease them. Not to the point of cowardice, as the West, particularly Europe,

00:04:56.360 has done recently. In fact, at that same press conference, Trump asked NATO to take a bigger role

00:05:02.320 at containing Iran. Today, I am going to ask NATO to become much more involved in the Middle East 0.87

00:05:11.800 process. So a huge win for all the good guys. And Trump keeps his promise of being America first in

00:05:19.640 terms of self-respect, but not someone looking for new foreign wars of adventure. Except one huge

00:05:28.000 thing. See, there was a Ukrainian passenger plane that crashed in Tehran right around the time of

00:05:34.860 Iran's impotent attack on the Iraqi airbase. Like I say, not a single American was wounded, let alone 0.97

00:05:40.740 killed. Four of the Iranian missiles misfired even. But hundreds of miles away, over 170 people died in

00:05:49.860 a plane crash. A new plane, just four years old, modern and safe. And according to the Ukrainian

00:05:55.440 airline, it had a very experienced crew. So did it really just crash? If so, why did Iran say they

00:06:03.840 would refuse to give the black box up to Boeing? You know what I mean by the black box, that crash

00:06:08.820 proof device that records all the instruments in the plane, what happened to any plane right up to

00:06:14.460 the last moment so investigators might learn the cause of a crash? Why did Iran immediately come up

00:06:20.060 with an obviously fake excuse, engine trouble? How would they know? But hide the real proof,

00:06:26.200 the black box? You know, I took a poll on Twitter and asked my followers, I said, which do you think

00:06:31.380 is more likely, an accident or a shoot down? 12,000 people voted. Look at that, I guess 80% of my

00:06:38.480 followers are pretty skeptical. Look, we knew what was up. And that was last night that I did that poll.

00:06:44.620 All right. Last night also, Canada's new foreign minister, François-Philippe Champagne, well, he made a

00:06:52.380 friendly phone call to Iran. Friendly. Here, let me read from his official readout, as it's called.

00:06:58.560 That's a partial point form summary of the call as released by his office. You can see it here.

00:07:05.340 You see where it says, the two exchanged condolences for the victims of the crash. See that in the second

00:07:11.840 line there? You can see that Champagne said Canada had many questions that need to be answered, but he

00:07:18.480 didn't say what the questions were or who had to do the answering. And as you can see, there were no

00:07:24.040 notes about what Iran said in reply. I won't even call that a self-serving press release by Champagne

00:07:30.180 because it actually doesn't serve Champagne to be so subordinate, to be so surrender-ish.

00:07:37.020 Now, I note that Iran didn't bother to issue a recap of the conversation. They're probably still

00:07:41.660 laughing at us. You know, Champagne, this foreign minister of Canada, Trudeau's guy, he sent out a

00:07:47.400 press release after Trump took out that terrorist general. But Champagne was even-handed as between

00:07:55.540 good and evil, as between terrorists and our friendliest democracy. Trudeau himself was still

00:08:01.100 in vacation mode. But his foreign minister said that both sides need to restrain themselves. Really?

00:08:07.620 Both sides need to exercise restraint and pursue de-escalation. Not just the terrorists,

00:08:14.080 but Trump reacting to the terrorists. Both sides are bad. How's that both-side-ism working out for

00:08:20.520 you now? 63 Canadians dead on that plane. Now, U.S. President Donald Trump said the obvious

00:08:27.360 early today. The crash was suspicious. Well, I have my suspicions. Yeah. He could see the obvious,

00:08:39.320 as could 80% of my followers on Twitter. Trudeau, he's still pretty much on vacation mode. And the

00:08:45.940 mainstream media loves his new lazy vacation mode beard. Look at that. Oh, they just can't get enough

00:08:52.920 the beard. That's the big story in Canada now, guys. It's the beard. Trudeau's still taking personal

00:08:59.700 days, by the way. He didn't bother to make a public statement. I mean, he didn't bother to

00:09:04.000 call up Donald Trump. He hasn't talked to Trump since he mocked Trump at that NATO conference last year.

00:09:09.880 It was the joke of the season. Yeah. Can I state the obvious answer? It's the joke of the season.

00:09:35.960 Yeah. Can I state the obvious? Trudeau is completely mentally checked out of Canadian

00:09:43.760 affairs, totally checked out from foreign affairs to touch on Canada. By contrast, Trump never takes

00:09:49.640 a day off. So finally, NBC News said what we all pretty much knew. Iran shot down the plane with a 0.73

00:09:57.680 missile. Now, the CBC didn't break that news. They weren't that interested. I mean, they were more

00:10:03.320 interested in that cool beard and everything. I mean, they were interested, but they knew what we

00:10:08.680 all knew. And they're pro-Iran, just like they're pro-China, just like they're anti-American. So they

00:10:14.680 showed a remarkable lack of curiosity in chasing down the facts. So they let a foreign network break 0.99

00:10:20.840 the obvious news. Good day, everyone from New York. We're coming on the air with breaking news regarding

00:10:25.800 that Ukrainian airliner that crashed in Iran early Wednesday morning, killing at least 176 people.

00:10:32.440 A U.S. official tells NBC News that intelligence evidence suggests the plane was mistakenly shot down

00:10:39.880 by Iranian anti-aircraft missiles. Yeah, for an hour after that, the CBC News website had no stories about

00:10:47.960 the shoot down because they didn't have their marching orders yet from the prime minister's office.

00:10:54.840 Well, that changed. The official line was, don't say a single bad word about Iran. In fact, defend them, 0.96

00:11:02.440 but blame Donald Trump. I'm serious. Here's the CBC's Katie Simpson. 63 Canadians dead because of the

00:11:11.240 unintended consequences of a decision made by the U.S. president. Oh, is that what happened? Here's another

00:11:20.520 CBC reporter with the identical line. Who's to blame, right? I mean, in terms of, is it the United States? Is it

00:11:28.120 Iran? Is it both? Who's to blame here for what happened? Oh my God, they are serious. And then when Trudeau

00:11:37.720 finally put on a suit and had a coffee and tried to dry out a bit, went to a press conference,

00:11:43.720 he took three questions from the media and said the same thing. Three identical questions

00:11:49.560 with the absurd blame Trump line. I'm sorry, that's not a coincidence. That's media scripting. Here,

00:11:55.000 take a look at these three. Hi, Prime Minister. I just want to circle back to an earlier question. If

00:11:59.400 the intelligence is accurate, then it seems this is the end result of a sequence of events that was

00:12:03.640 sparked by the drone strike ordered by the U.S. president. So given the information you have,

00:12:08.760 how much responsibility does the United States bear for this tragedy? The evidence suggests that

00:12:15.560 this is the likely cause, but we need to have a full and complete and credible investigation to

00:12:21.240 establish exactly what happened. That is what we are calling for and that is what we are expecting

00:12:28.200 will happen. Given the tensions in the area that were the cause of a drone strike by the United

00:12:36.120 States, do you think that the United States is at least partially responsible for this tragedy?

00:12:41.800 I think it is too soon to be drawing conclusions or assigning blame or responsibility in whatever

00:12:48.520 proportions. Right now, our focus is on supporting the families that are grieving right across the

00:12:53.880 country and providing what answers we can in a preliminary way, but recognizing that there is

00:13:00.040 going to need to be a full and credible investigation into what exactly happened before we draw any

00:13:05.880 conclusions. Earlier today, President Trump characterized or said he had concerns that a missile might have

00:13:14.520 brought down the plane and he said it was a very rough neighborhood. I was wondering what you

00:13:19.320 thought of that characterization. I'll let Mr. Trump's words stand for themselves.

00:13:25.560 Do you feel that the U.S. is partly responsible for this, given that they created the situation in which the

00:13:31.320 missiles were launched? I think that's one of the many questions that people will be thinking about and trying to find answers to.

00:13:39.480 For the moment, I just want to underline the importance of having a full and credible investigation

00:13:46.040 so that we can get those facts and then we can continue to analyze based on those facts.

00:13:52.680 Not a word condemning Iran in the whole press conference. I watched the whole thing.

00:13:56.600 No threats against Iran, no accusations, not one consequence, but three speculations that Donald Trump was

00:14:04.280 to blame? Iran shoots down a civilian airliner in an attack on an Iraqi air base. The airliner's hundreds

00:14:11.960 of miles away, by the way. And the media party in Canada and Trudeau blame Trump? I'm serious.

00:14:19.400 Oh, and the CBC is literally arguing that Iran has no obligation to even turn over the black boxes.

00:14:25.080 I'm not kidding. Look at this. A whole series of pro-Iran tweets by this guy, a CBC journalist. I bet they

00:14:31.720 were first drafted in Tehran and the CBC just translated them from Farsi to English. So here we are.

00:14:38.920 And we started with the obvious news. No one in the world will dare touch America or Americans now 0.97

00:14:44.040 out of fear of massive retaliation from Trump. America's standing tall. The world's tyrants are cowering

00:14:49.960 before him, before Trump in America. But Iran is chastened in regards to America. No World War III.

00:14:56.840 But Canada? Canada just got slaughtered. 63 people. Triple our losses on 9-11.

00:15:03.160 Worst attack since the Air India bombing. And Trudeau? Well, nothing. You know, worse than nothing. He's

00:15:11.400 blaming Trump. For some reason, Trudeau still gives foreign aid to Iran, close to $20 million to Iran

00:15:19.260 since becoming Prime Minister. Not a chance of a complaint about that. No call for a

00:15:25.580 UN investigation. No call for anything. Everything's fine under Trudeau. Trudeau spoke on the phone with

00:15:31.180 the Prime Minister of Ukraine. That's a good idea. And for some reason, he called up the Prime Minister

00:15:36.700 of Holland. But no call to Trump. Oh, why would he? He wants to blame and insult Trump. And he knows Trump

00:15:44.300 doesn't have a lot of time for him anymore. I actually think Trump is a big enough man that

00:15:48.300 he would take a phone call from Trudeau if Trudeau phoned. But I bet Trudeau didn't even think of

00:15:52.620 calling him. I think he's scared to call Trump. So what should we do? I mean, Canada is not strong

00:15:58.540 enough to really hurt Iran like America could. Iran laughs at us like China does. But we can do a few 0.94

00:16:06.220 things. I can think of half a dozen. I've listed them on a petition at baniran.ca. Baniran.ca. You

00:16:14.060 can sign our petition there if you like. Here's some of the suggestions I have. Number one, list the

00:16:21.580 Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a banned terrorist group. Number two, expel Iranian nationals who 1.00

00:16:29.500 organized the annual Iran-directed Al-Quds Day hate march in Canadian cities. Number three, revoke the

00:16:37.420 student visas of Iranian nationals who are studying in Canadian universities. Number four, freeze Iranian 1.00

00:16:42.940 assets in Canada sufficient to compensate the Canadian victims of this terrorism. Number five, call for an

00:16:49.900 emergency UN meeting to pass a resolution condemning Iran. And number six, immediately cancel the millions of

00:16:58.860 dollars a year. Canada sends to Iran in foreign aid. You can sign our petition at baniran.ca. Look,

00:17:07.900 none of that's going to bring back 63 murdered people. And unlike Trump's military, it won't actually deter

00:17:13.820 Iran from its aggression. But we should do it just for the self-respect. Ban the terrorists. Kick out their 0.99

00:17:19.900 foreign nationals. Stop giving them free money. Seize their assets. At least argue against them with the UN. 1.00

00:17:25.180 But what's the likelihood of any of that happening? Well, let me put it this way. Justin Trudeau's

00:17:31.500 brother, Alexandre, who was his leadership campaign foreign policy advisor, he's so pro-Iran he literally

00:17:38.940 made a movie with Iran called The New Great Game, a pro-Iran propaganda film. Yeah, Trudeau is fine 0.96

00:17:47.340 with all this. Just like he's fine with China taking two Canadian hostages, holding them for more than a

00:17:53.180 year now. The world has learned not to touch Trump. Don't touch any American. And the world has learned

00:17:58.700 that they can do pretty much anything to Canada that they want. Stay with us for more.

00:18:05.740 Welcome back. Well, we've been telling you about the battle for the gas pipeline that would go from

00:18:24.620 the frack natural gas oil wells of the BC interior to the west coast, Kitimat, where it would then be

00:18:31.180 liquefied, put on those interesting LNG, liquefied natural gas ships, and sent to Asia. The whole

00:18:38.620 project from drilling to piping to LNG port is $40 billion. It's literally the largest project

00:18:46.700 in all of Canada. And the pipeline part is worth $6 billion. All 20 aboriginal bands along the route 0.79

00:18:55.660 have signed agreements with the pipeline. They love it. They get jobs. They get set asides. It's

00:19:01.020 it's great. The courts have ordered protesters out of the way repeatedly. They refuse to leave.

00:19:07.980 It's almost a question of whether or not the police will uphold the law. I'm not holding my breath.

00:19:14.700 Well, that is not the only project that hangs in the balance. There's another massive oil sands project,

00:19:22.460 this one in Alberta. And even though it's smaller in scale than the massive gas link project,

00:19:30.540 I would put it to you it's even more important given how battered the Alberta economy is.

00:19:37.420 Now the thing is, it hasn't yet been given the green light by Justin Trudeau. Joining us now to talk

00:19:44.460 about this is our friend Lauren Gunter, senior columnist for the Edmonton Sun. Lauren, great to see you

00:19:49.420 again. Tell us a little bit about the Tech Resources Frontier Oil Sands Project. Has it

00:19:55.340 already passed all its regulatory hurdles? It's passed every hurdle except the federal

00:20:01.020 liberal cabinet. So back in the summertime, both federal regulators and Alberta provincial

00:20:07.740 regulators signed off on it. There are 14 First Nations and Métis communities in the area.

00:20:13.900 They, like the communities along the coastal gas link pipeline, have all signed off too. All 14 have

00:20:22.620 economic sharing agreements with Tech Resources out of Vancouver, who are the lead on this project.

00:20:30.220 And Tech has even arranged so that as part of the mine is exhausted, it will reclaim that area so that the

00:20:41.340 native buffalo populations in this area have enough area to graze on. They have tons of space to graze on.

00:20:49.500 So every T has been crossed, every I has been dotted, except signing off by the federal cabinet. And the

00:20:57.820 federal cabinet has sent out, not even really mixed signals, but signals that make me worry. Jonathan Wilkinson,

00:21:07.820 who is the new environment minister, isn't as extreme in his rhetoric as Catherine McKenna, who he replaced.

00:21:15.660 But I think he's equally extreme as an environmentalist. I think that, you know, he's probably ideologically

00:21:22.220 just as far out as McKenna was. And he has said that he can't see a way to go ahead with Frontier if

00:21:30.780 Canada is still deeply committed to meeting its Paris climate goals. Wow. So that's very worrisome.

00:21:39.580 Yeah. Well, you've written a column about this just recently. I have it in my hand here. It's called

00:21:45.500 Tech Minds Fate, a test of liberal support for the West. Now, I said this was smaller than that

00:21:51.020 coastal gas link, but it's not much smaller. Let me just read a little bit from your article.

00:21:55.420 Frontier is three times the size of Trans Mountain in terms of cost, $21 billion versus $7 billion.

00:22:04.300 And it would employ as many as five times more workers following construction as TMX. So I didn't

00:22:11.420 realize, I mean, $21 billion, a billion here, a billion there. I mean, that's huge. And there's no pipeline.

00:22:18.860 That's what they call a shovel and truck. It's a shovel and truck mine, which means that they have to dig

00:22:24.380 out the land and put it in the back of big trucks to take the bitumen to be processed. So there'd be

00:22:32.460 2,500 people employed there permanently, probably about 4,000 employed in Alberta during construction,

00:22:39.180 another 800 to 1,000 in the rest of the country. And then about 2,500 permanently employed at the mine

00:22:47.020 for 40 years. So, you know, a couple of working lifetimes for a lot of people, really good,

00:22:55.100 high-paying jobs in the oil sands. And yet somehow this is not a slam dunk.

00:23:02.620 If all the Indian bands are on side, there's no pipeline issue. I haven't heard of protesters.

00:23:10.780 Like this gas link thing we were talking about, there's a handful of,

00:23:14.300 I call them actors because they're not elected Indian chiefs or council members. They're just,

00:23:20.380 oh, I'm an Indian paid by Tides Foundation in San Francisco. Listen to me.

00:23:25.900 Maybe that's why the prime minister likes them so much. They're actors like he is.

00:23:29.260 Yeah, that's right. So like this is in Alberta. You're not foisting industry on BC. It's in Alberta.

00:23:40.140 They love it. All the Indian bands are ready to roll. Everyone's hurting there.

00:23:45.180 How, when, how long, like at a certain point, I got to imagine tech says, okay, we get the message.

00:23:54.940 We will go do business in the United States, in Australia, in, like at a certain point,

00:24:01.740 the $21 billion gets impatient. I wouldn't know. I've never had 21 billion,

00:24:06.380 but I'm guessing it won't wait forever. Well, tech has been incredibly patient till now.

00:24:11.740 They have been working on this proposal for eight years. So, you know, they, they started working

00:24:17.820 on this. I guess this will be the ninth year. 2020 will be the ninth year. They started working on

00:24:22.860 this in 2011. And, and they have been very patient, very solid about putting this all together in

00:24:29.660 exactly the right way. And, uh, you know, the, the, the liberal cabinet, I'm guessing the liberal

00:24:35.740 cabinet will approve it. I, I, I'm a little leery about saying that with certainty, but look at what

00:24:42.220 they did with Trans Mountain. I mean, so, so they buy Trans Mountain so that they can say, well, you know,

00:24:48.460 we're doing what we can. Uh, you can't, you can't blame us for the fact it's not built. And then

00:24:54.620 in every other way, they do nothing. Uh, very important to know that when the last group back

00:25:01.180 in the summer, the last group of environmentalists and the last group of first nations raised

00:25:06.220 objections at the federal court in Ottawa, the federal court said, look, we'd have knocked down

00:25:11.980 all 12 of these complaints, but the six from first nations, the federal lawyers didn't bother to oppose.

00:25:19.740 They didn't say yes. They didn't say no. They didn't do anything. They did what, what is called

00:25:24.460 laying down tools. They just put their tools down and they sat there. So that's what the liberals have

00:25:29.340 been doing with Trans Mountain. I think they can do something similar with Frontier. They'll approve it.

00:25:35.100 And then as all of the heavily funded, foreign funded environmentalist and, and first nations

00:25:43.420 groups, uh, raise objections and hold this up in court, the federal just go, I don't know what we

00:25:50.140 can do. We have to let the courts do their thing. I mean, we, we can't intervene and that would delay

00:25:55.820 it and delay it and delay it until like, say the energy East pipeline, there were enough delays that

00:26:02.540 finally the contractor just walked away. They said, we, we can invest our money. As you correctly

00:26:08.220 pointed out, we can invest our money in, in places that are much more interested in it than Canada.

00:26:12.860 And so that's my concern is that Frontier will probably get approved, but then it will be

00:26:17.660 choked and strangled bit by bit until tech, uh, eventually two or three years from now,

00:26:23.660 throws up at hands and walks away. You know, during the, uh, public comment period, which went from

00:26:29.820 late October to late November on the tech resources frontier project, there were first nations

00:26:36.860 groups that came forward and complained, but they weren't any of the duly elected representatives

00:26:44.380 of first nations in those areas. Yeah. They're central casting from Hollywood. They were,

00:26:49.180 you know, they were absolutely California bought and directed. I'm sure of it without even knowing

00:26:54.460 their names. Yeah. You know, I see, I see news almost every week now, Lauren, uh, now that the

00:27:01.100 election is over statistics, Canada and other sources of information, other bank economists are

00:27:06.460 saying, Oh boy, our economy is weak. It's starting to shrink. Uh, it may be a recession. Confidence is

00:27:12.700 falling investment, like all this bad news. We didn't hear about it until the election was safely over.

00:27:19.260 And to me, that calls into the question, the, uh, non-partisanship of stats can,

00:27:23.420 but let's set that aside. If I were a bank economist, a cabinet minister, someone with

00:27:33.100 huge responsibilities for the economy. And I saw things slowing. I can't imagine anything would

00:27:38.940 be better than green lighting a 21 billion dollar project. Not only would the 21 billion make a big

00:27:46.780 dent. And I read in your column that, uh, of course this would send billions of dollars in tax money to

00:27:56.460 Ottawa, which is, is needed, but it would be a symbol. Okay. There's some optimism. People are investing

00:28:04.300 things are going, Oh, we need to, you know, probably buy another thousand pickup trucks. We need to

00:28:11.020 get some hotels and restaurants, surveying engineering, like it, like things would you,

00:28:15.180 you unlock 21 billion dollars. A lot of things start to happen. Maybe you could even

00:28:21.420 affect the curve of the entire economy by a half a percent. I don't know,

00:28:25.900 but that's pretty big about probably where you're at. The, the, the amount that would go to Ottawa

00:28:31.500 every year from just this one mind would be around 400 million a year every year for 40 years. Like

00:28:41.580 this is a government that has choked off all sorts of revenue sources by closing, basically closing

00:28:47.340 down, uh, new developments in, in energy. Uh, and it could go ahead with this and get an extra 400

00:28:54.380 million a year. Uh, okay. That's kind of a drop in the bucket given the size of the deficits they have,

00:29:00.940 but at least it shows that they are adding one column and the other column together and figuring

00:29:06.700 out that the two are related. But I, the, the big problem is you say, you know, if you're a bank

00:29:11.820 economist or Academy minister, you couldn't see saying no to this. That's because you have a realistic

00:29:19.260 idea of the future economy that, you know, you, you can't simply stop producing resources and hope that

00:29:28.220 there will be other things that pop up of equal worth and value to take their place. But if you're

00:29:34.140 Jonathan Wilkinson, the federal, the federal environment minister, or Justin Trudeau, the,

00:29:39.180 the, uh, uh, prancer in chief or whatever it is he's become now, uh, you think you don't believe that

00:29:46.860 you believe in your, your, like your old buddy, Gerald Butz believes that we simply have to stop

00:29:53.020 producing fossil fuel. Yeah. And in their place will suddenly spring up as if by magic,

00:30:00.860 wind, solar, biofuels, all sorts of alternatives that are green. Uh, we'll suddenly find the

00:30:08.620 philosopher's stone that allows us to turn water into fuel and everything will be magically the same.

00:30:15.900 Well, we'll have the same standard of living. The same number of people will be employed. They'll all

00:30:19.980 have the same kind of income. You, you are hard pressed to find jobs that produce the kind of

00:30:27.660 income for tradespeople that they find in the energy sector. It's very, very lucrative work.

00:30:35.420 It's tough work. It's miserable work. You're out in the middle of a bog in January in the dark doing

00:30:42.300 tough work, but it's compensated to make you properly compensate. That doesn't happen if you're

00:30:49.100 suddenly doing windmill, you know, wind turbine maintenance. And, and the thing is that in Ontario,

00:30:56.780 for instance, the same, very much the same people who are devising the federal policy on energy

00:31:01.180 devised Ontario's policy for 10 years under the McGinty government and the wind government.

00:31:05.980 And they said, Oh, these plans will produce 500,000 jobs in green energy. The auditor general in

00:31:15.820 Ontario said at most, she was kind of skeptical about this, but at most it produced 12,000. And

00:31:22.540 most of those jobs disappeared as soon as the subsidies ended. It's not economically real. It's fantasy.

00:31:29.500 You know, one of the interesting, but probably doomed to be unsuccessful candidates in the democratic

00:31:39.180 presidential primaries in the States, colorful character named Yang, Andrew Yang. He has some

00:31:48.060 quirky ideas, but he's, he's, he's interesting. He was asked about fossil fuels and shutting them down.

00:31:57.340 He's a Democrat. And he said, anyone who says coal miners can simply learn how to do coding

00:32:07.100 obviously doesn't know much about coal mining or coding. And I thought, you know what, that is bloody

00:32:13.820 true. Yeah. That was because Joe Biden, the former vice president had said, look, if you can go 3000

00:32:20.780 feet down into a coal mine, you can learn how to code. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think so.

00:32:25.740 Yeah. I mean, I'm not, I'm not saying coal miners are dumb. I'm just saying it's a completely different 0.96

00:32:29.660 thing. And by the way, you got a 50 year old guy who's been working tools and equipment his whole

00:32:34.780 life. And he's saying, now go sit down with some, uh, uh, internet, uh, extremely internet digital

00:32:42.220 native 21 year old kids. And Hey, you can do some Tik TOK vids that doesn't understand people or real

00:32:49.500 life, but that's Trudeau's world. I want, I want that 50 year old guy who's been working 30 years

00:32:55.020 in the mine with tools living next door to me. Cause I guarantee you, I have no mechanical aptitudes

00:33:01.100 at all. And when something breaks, I want that guy. I'm not disparaging anybody who works.

00:33:06.540 Oh, I know. I mean, either. Yeah. But you know, we, we used to have a guy lived across the alley from

00:33:12.060 me when I was growing up named Vern and, and Vern was the best guy. He worked at a tire plant in,

00:33:17.180 in, in Madison hat. And he was one of the best guys to have around because anytime something broke,

00:33:22.540 Vern loved to come over and fix it. And, and, you know, I have tremendous respect for the Vern's of

00:33:27.500 the world, but, uh, but I, I don't expect I could learn how to code or Vern could learn how to just,

00:33:35.260 it's just preposterous. And that's the whole point of progressives. And they're thinking about green

00:33:42.060 energy and green economies. It's preposterous. Yeah. Very frustrating. Well, I have to say,

00:33:47.740 and let me close on this. I know you've been generous with your time. Last time I saw you,

00:33:51.980 if I recall, it was when we had some of our Wexit town hall meetings in Calgary and then Edmonton.

00:33:57.500 And one of the questions was, well, will Jason Kenney as premier of Alberta be able to push back on

00:34:03.900 this? And my view then is even stronger now, unless Jason Kenney has an, or else after his demands,

00:34:12.620 why on earth would the liberals listen to him? And if this tech mine, it's $21 billion in job in,

00:34:19.980 in investment, it's thousands of jobs. And it's symbol of hope is rejected.

00:34:25.260 Well, I think Jason Kenney will have to rethink his opposition to having an, or else, because

00:34:32.380 I think exhaustion and, and hopelessness will skyrocket if this thing fails.

00:34:37.980 Yeah. But as I said, my guess is that we're going to get something in between. We're going

00:34:43.020 to get an approval that means nothing. And it's going to drag out for two or three years.

00:34:48.380 Oh my God. Well, we'll keep watching on this. I know this is something you've been following closely.

00:34:52.780 Thanks very much for coming on the show. The article is called Tech Minds Fate,

00:34:56.780 a test of liberal support for the West. And we've been talking to our friend,

00:34:59.740 Lauren Gunder. Great to see you, my friend. Thank you.

00:35:01.340 Good to see you.

00:35:02.460 All right. There you are. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.

00:35:05.900 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Jean Charest working for Huawei. Nate writes,

00:35:20.060 the fact that Jean Charest is even being touted as a possible leader shows how morally corrupt the

00:35:24.220 Tories are. Well, look, the Tories aren't voting for him. It's just some Tory insiders in the media who

00:35:32.220 think he'd be great. I think he would get crushed. I don't think he'd get 20% of the vote of the

00:35:42.140 current membership. But we'll see if he runs. Phil writes, Charest's claim to fame was running a

00:35:49.580 corrupt government in Quebec, and there's no reason to think that wouldn't happen nationally.

00:35:54.060 Yeah. I just think he's so not a fit. It just sort of made me chuckle that all these party insiders

00:35:59.340 thought he was great. But the fact that he would even consider running after working for China 0.99

00:36:03.980 against Canada, it just blows my mind. On my interview with Joel Pollack, Gordon writes,

00:36:10.140 President Trump is America's Winston Churchill. He's fighting to protect us from evil in the world.

00:36:14.380 So glad I live in the era of Trump. Oh, I tell you, on every single thing from Iran to judges to

00:36:23.260 NATO to North Korea, to everything. Imagine if Hillary Clinton were president now instead of 1.00

00:36:30.220 Trump. Oh, I can only imagine. It would be an American airliner, God forbid, that would have

00:36:35.820 been shot down. Well, that's our show for today. Go to baniran.ca if you want to join our petition.

00:36:43.180 I'm deeply embarrassed that Justin Trudeau won't lift a finger against Iran, but he'll blame Trump

00:36:48.140 three times. All right. That's the show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at

00:36:52.940 Rubble World Headquarters, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - January 10, 2020

Iran shot down a Ukrainian plane, killing 63 Canadians： What will Trudeau do about it？

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