Rebel News Podcast - Meghan Markle and Prince Harry give up the duties of the Royal Family while keeping all the benefits

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I tell you my thoughts on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, and I tell you

00:00:06.060 a historical story of the last time an American divorcee tried to get herself a king. That didn't

00:00:13.280 end too well. I'll give you the details in my suggestion for the Queen. Before I get out of

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00:00:59.820 Tonight, another American grifter tries to burrow into the royal family. Should the Queen cut ties 1.00

00:01:09.080 with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle? It's January 10th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:13.840 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:19.680 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:23.760 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:28.640 right to do so.

00:01:29.620 The serious world has been riveted by the conflict in Iran. That didn't include Justin Trudeau,

00:01:41.040 who was partying in Costa Rica when that all started to go down, and he couldn't be bothered

00:01:45.640 to cut short his vacation or even just take a phone call with Donald Trump about it. He's still

00:01:51.220 in vacation mode. He's got his vacation beard that has the entire media party dazzled. Well,

00:01:58.900 now Canada is at the center of that conflict in a way. Iran shot down a passenger airline that was

00:02:05.960 taking off from its own airport. But look at the map. Look at where Tehran is. You see that on the

00:02:10.900 right-hand side there? And look where the rocket attacks on Iraq's air bases are, hundreds of miles

00:02:18.900 away. How on earth did Iran choose to shoot down a passenger plane hundreds of miles away? Why was

00:02:25.480 it the only plane shot down? Why didn't Iran stop civil aviation for the hours around its attack on

00:02:33.680 Iraq? And what did these cryptic comments from one of Iran's dictators, what did they mean,

00:02:42.380 published shortly before shooting down the airliner, referring to then 290 people killed a few years

00:02:49.560 ago when America actually accidentally shot down an Iranian passenger plane? By the way, the U.S.

00:02:55.960 military attempted to contact that plane many times before shooting it down. America apologized for

00:03:01.320 that, paid a compensation to every family on the plane. But not that that excuses it, but rather the

00:03:07.440 opposite. When Iran's dictator mentions America shooting down an Iranian jet in a tweet about

00:03:13.920 vengeance, and then Iran shoots down a passenger jet, granted it was from their own airport, but it

00:03:21.100 was chock full of foreigners, isn't that more than a quirky coincidence? Alas, Trudeau doesn't think so.

00:03:27.500 He still thinks it's an accident, and the only person he blamed yesterday was Donald Trump, who he still

00:03:33.920 hasn't phoned. Do you feel that the U.S. is partly responsible for this, given that they created the

00:03:40.380 situation in which the missiles were launched? I think that's one of the many questions that people

00:03:47.080 will be thinking about and trying to find answers to. So Canada has gone from being disconnected and

00:03:55.020 disinterested in Iran and world affairs to being, well, I'd still call it disconnected and disinterested.

00:04:02.680 Trudeau has no plan. He has no clue what to do. He won't talk to the grown-ups like Donald Trump

00:04:08.980 because he's afraid. He literally phoned up the prime minister of the Netherlands yesterday. Okay,

00:04:14.780 I get it. That's one of the few guys who will still take a call from Trudeau. But

00:04:18.060 how does that help deal with the attack?

00:04:23.040 CBS, look at this. CBS crew just visited the Ukrainian Airlines crash site west of Tehran,

00:04:28.220 9 a.m. local time. Virtually all pieces of the plane were removed yesterday.

00:04:32.680 Say locals. Scavengers now picking site clean. No security. Not cordoned off. No sign of any

00:04:38.800 investigators. Does that sound legit? Hide the black box. Remove everything from the crash

00:04:47.780 scene, such as any parts of the missile that shot it down. But Trudeau knows who the real

00:04:53.400 enemy is, doesn't he? Donald Trump. Yeah, the past week has shown the world that if you touch

00:04:57.640 one hair on the head of an American, Donald Trump will flatten you. But if you kill 63

00:05:04.380 Canadians, Justin Trudeau will just mumble something about seeking justice and then take

00:05:09.020 another personal day. I'm not even kidding. If my math is right, today marks the 22nd day

00:05:13.820 in a row that Trudeau's either been on vacation or taken personal or private days. I really think

00:05:19.860 he's the laziest prime minister in Canadian history. I mean, he wants all the perks. He wants

00:05:25.300 the private jets. He wants the luxury vacations, the status, the money, but none of the responsibility,

00:05:30.880 none of the hard work, certainly none of the hard decisions. I think people are noticing,

00:05:35.980 and I think he knows, he's got to know, he's an imposter. I think when his vote count and seat

00:05:44.660 count fell in the last federal election, when he lost his majority government, when people saw

00:05:48.700 through him saw that he's a faker, he's a fake feminist, we sort of already knew that. But the 0.74

00:05:54.160 Jody Wilson-Raybould thing proved that. But the blackface, because it showed his whole woke thing 0.54

00:06:00.300 was just an act, that he's an imposter. I think he's always known that he's an imposter, but he just

00:06:06.320 bluffed it out. And I think serious leaders around the world knew pretty early, but now Trudeau knows

00:06:14.200 that we all know that he's an imposter, so he's just checked out. I mean, he knew, he always knew.

00:06:20.840 I've shown you this video before, but let me add a laugh track to it. Look at this guy.

00:06:26.800 Bruh, look at this dude. Wait till you see the...

00:06:31.040 No, no, no, no.

00:06:33.720 Yeah, I think that's about right. So a lazy man in empty suit won't quit because

00:06:52.000 he'd be a nobody again. Trudeau loves the perks. He's a gold digger as a wife. And I say that as

00:06:58.220 an observation, not a condemnation. You'll recall that whole illegal trip to the Aga Khan's private

00:07:03.700 billionaire island in the Bahamas. That was Sophie Trudeau's doing. Here's an excerpt from the

00:07:09.820 Ethics Commissioner's report. You know, she kept calling the Aga Khan's daughter, asking him to go

00:07:15.420 there with her rich girlfriends to show off like she's some Kardashian or something. She went back

00:07:20.740 without Trudeau himself. The Aga Khan and his family weren't even there. But Sophie didn't care.

00:07:25.840 She just wanted the free stuff. She's a grifter. And that's one big reason why Trudeau won't quit 0.66

00:07:31.620 his prime minister. His wife demands the free stuff. I mean, their eight-day trip to India had

00:07:37.920 seven days of family vacations. One day of work. It's him, but it's her too. And I can't think of

00:07:46.020 another lazy, entitled... Well, I can think of one. Another lazy, entitled fake celebrity couple.

00:07:53.740 Prince Harry and his grasping wife, Meghan Markle. Taxpayers just spent millions of pounds on their

00:08:04.960 glamorous royal wedding. And then millions more renovating their house. I mean, that happened,

00:08:15.140 what, just five minutes ago, it seems? So millions. And now, now they want to quit.

00:08:23.180 They want to quit. They want to quit doing the work. They want to stop having to do the hard parts,

00:08:29.760 the boring parts, the uncool parts. They want to stop going to every hospital and school and food

00:08:34.420 bank and orphanage and veterans hospital. And they want to stop shaking hands with lowly people and 0.90

00:08:38.560 cutting ribbons and smiling even if they're not happy. They want to stop clapping even if they're

00:08:42.300 bored. They want to get rid of all that part, the duty part, the service part. They want to leave

00:08:48.700 all that and just keep the celebrity part, the richest part, the fancy titles. The queen's over 90. 0.99

00:08:54.860 She can do the hard work. These youngsters, they want to party. Harry and Meghan Markle,

00:09:00.720 they're just grifters. They're like the Trudeaus. They're literally trying to monetize the brand.

00:09:08.660 And they're trademarking Sussex Royal. Trademarking it. Like they're the Kardashians with a new line

00:09:15.400 of makeup or something, except that Kim Kardashian, she has no official duties, no constitutional duties,

00:09:22.260 no public responsibilities, and her money is her own. She's not living off the avails of the state.

00:09:27.640 She's not living off the taxpayer. In fact, Kim Kardashian West and her husband Kanye West,

00:09:33.040 the musician, they pay enormous taxes in because they're enormously successful. They're not

00:09:39.840 moochers. Meghan Markle was a B-list or more accurately a C-list celebrity. One step up from 1.00

00:09:48.140 a nobody really, not a starving wannabe starlet working as a waitress in poverty just waiting to

00:09:54.840 be discovered. But maybe one notch above that, she had a minor role in some shows like this one on the

00:10:01.200 screen here. She wasn't a multimillionaire by any stretch. She probably made high six figures, 1.00

00:10:06.040 low seven figures as an actress. But, you know, once taxes and expenses and managers and agents are

00:10:12.080 all paid, she had enough to live comfortably. But she didn't want to live comfortably because she was

00:10:19.060 in Hollywood and she saw how the real stars, the superstars lived. She went by Beverly Hills. She saw

00:10:26.600 the fancy cars and she started comparing herself to those around her. Meghan Markle was never going

00:10:33.060 to be an A-lister. She knew it. But she had a plan. She divorced her husband. Get rid of him. He's 1.00

00:10:41.120 since remarried. And she remarried. She married herself a real prince. Gold digger, social climber,

00:10:49.680 for sure. Like no one's ever seen in 90 years. Since the last American divorce, a Wallace Simpson

00:10:58.060 married herself a royal King Edward. It was a constitutional crisis. And on the eve of the Second

00:11:04.720 World War, no less. And she was a Nazi sympathizer. Can you believe it? You know, they visited Germany

00:11:11.220 and met with Hitler. So that woman, Wallace Simpson, met Edward when he was still a prince.

00:11:21.000 Now, he became a king when his father died. Simpson wasn't even divorced yet. She had become his

00:11:27.880 mistress, boasting, soon I shall be queen of England. Yeah, it did not happen. King Edward resigned.

00:11:36.040 He was pressured to resign. Abdicated the throne, as they say. Crisis averted. Let those

00:11:42.940 philandering Nazi sympathizers go. Give them a few pounds to live off. Give them modest titles.

00:11:50.460 They were sent to the Bahamas, far away, where Edward was made the governor. What a disgrace.

00:11:54.440 I guess that grifter, Wallace Simpson, still got her title, Duchess. And I guess in the end,

00:11:59.060 Edward did the right thing, sort of, and paid a bit of a price for it. He wouldn't be king anymore.

00:12:06.040 But what about Harry and Meghan? They want their cake and eat it too. They just decided this. They

00:12:12.700 didn't consult with their family. They didn't consult with the queen. They didn't consult with

00:12:16.040 anyone. They just announced their plans on their Instagram page because they think there's stars

00:12:22.020 that way or something. Let me read their Instagram message. After many months of reflection and internal

00:12:30.260 discussions, we've chosen to make a transition this year in starting to carve out a progressive

00:12:35.860 new role within this institution. We intend to step back as senior members of the royal family and

00:12:41.740 work to become financially independent while continuing to fully support Her Majesty the

00:12:46.420 Queen. It is with your encouragement, particularly over the last few years, that we feel prepared

00:12:51.180 to make this adjustment. We now plan to balance our time between the United Kingdom and North America.

00:12:56.100 Oh, really? Continuing our duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages,

00:12:59.920 this geographic balance will enable us to raise our son with an appreciation for the royal tradition

00:13:05.480 into which he was born, while also providing our family with the space to focus on the next chapter,

00:13:11.900 including the launch of our new charitable entity. We look forward to sharing the full details of

00:13:16.000 this exciting new step in due course as we continue to collaborate with Her Majesty the Queen,

00:13:21.900 the Prince of Wales, the Duke of Cambridge, and all relevant parties. Until then, please accept our deepest

00:13:26.380 thanks for your continued support. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, for more information,

00:13:31.580 visit our website, Sussex Royal. Please hit the tip jar.

00:13:37.940 They were lying there, by the way. They didn't talk to the Queen about any of this.

00:13:43.020 That website, Sussex Royal, apparently, they've trademarked that. You're going into the trades,

00:13:50.280 are you? You're getting a job, are you? A real job, are you? You're renting out the name,

00:13:53.640 Maria's Sussex Royal, because they want to make money. And the Queen and her family,

00:13:59.240 look, they're already amongst the richest people in the world. I mean, castles, huge property,

00:14:05.140 servants. But these two little grifters want that Kardashian style. They want it to be about them, 0.54

00:14:12.320 them, them, them, them, them, them, them. They want to rent it out. They want to monetize.

00:14:16.700 They had a PR firm write this weird memo on their private website about funding,

00:14:25.000 trying to spin the fact that they're quitting the work part of being royals, but keeping the

00:14:30.180 money part of being royals, keeping the money part, the funding. It goes on and on and on.

00:14:37.440 They want to keep their multi-million dollar residence that just had millions in renos.

00:14:41.640 It's called Frogmore Cottage. I love that part, cottage, like it's a little shed or something.

00:14:48.240 Their Instagram post said that they've had many months of reflection and internal discussions,

00:14:52.200 but the royal family says that's a lie. None of them were consulted. I think the royal Sussex,

00:15:01.380 they were just talking to their C-list Hollywood friends who see a gravy train here. Harry brings

00:15:07.460 the name and the wealth and the titles and the class, and Meghan will take care of the grifters 0.97

00:15:11.780 and the graspers and the PR firms. You know, she came to Canada two weeks ago with Harry. Actually,

00:15:18.400 they landed the day after Trudeau left for Costa Rica. He couldn't be bothered to stick around and

00:15:22.720 greet them. Now, they flew back to the UK, but apparently Markle is back in Canada again. I guess

00:15:28.040 things aren't going so well with the reflections and discussions with the Queen. I'm guessing the Queen

00:15:33.120 and the rest of the royal family are using words like, well, the four little word. You know what I'm

00:15:37.980 talking about. Duty. Yikes. And responsibility and constitution. And not words like Instagram and

00:15:47.000 self-actualization. I note that Markle left her baby with the nanny as she jetted around back and forth.

00:15:56.140 Of course she did. The royal family isn't the most important thing to her. Neither is her own family.

00:16:03.760 She is the most important thing to her. It's pretty gross and it's pretty sad what she's made of Harry.

00:16:11.180 You know what I liked about Harry? He served. He served in the army dangerously in Afghanistan,

00:16:17.660 on the ground, for years in real danger, real work, real service. He once said it was the best thing

00:16:24.180 he'd ever done, the most real thing. He got to meet other real people in the army. I get it,

00:16:31.320 living in the royal family must be like a fantasy or a bubble or maybe a gilded cage. In Afghanistan,

00:16:38.340 he could be real and just a man in the army. And he started a charity and a competition,

00:16:44.040 the Invictus Games, for wounded vets. Good for him. You know, that's great. That's service,

00:16:52.580 isn't it? That's duty. And something he actually knew a little bit about. How different from the vanity and

00:16:58.160 narcissism his American wife is pulling him into? And Canada too. Here's the big scoop on them

00:17:05.560 that ran in the Sun tabloid. I understand this huge report in the Sun. It's why Harry and Meghan

00:17:13.940 made their huge announcement in an Instagram post because they panicked because they hadn't set it

00:17:19.080 all up yet and it was still being planned and the Sun was about to reveal it. So they just blurted it

00:17:24.480 out on Instagram. It sounds like they want to move to Canada so that they can say they're still in the

00:17:29.680 commonwealth, but they'll be close to Hollywood and Manhattan whenever they like. I think I actually

00:17:35.900 know, you see this forest here that's on their page, on their website, Sussex Royal? There's some

00:17:44.240 wider angle pictures of the forest. I know this sounds crazy, but I think I actually know the forest.

00:17:50.940 I think it's a forest between Nanaimo and Alberni on Vancouver Island. I think I've been to that

00:17:56.660 forest. I know that sounds absurd, but just to look at some trees, but I think I know where they are.

00:18:01.400 The Sun says they rented a $14 million home over Christmas. I think that's in Tofino. I think they're

00:18:09.600 in Tofino. They're doing what Trudeau does when he runs away from his duties. I wonder if it's in the

00:18:16.380 exact same house or on the exact same beach where Trudeau goes. Now look, I'm a huge monarchist,

00:18:21.940 despite Prince Charles and despite Prince Andrew, the super gross friend of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:18:27.840 But there's a lesson there. You know, after Epstein was killed, the BBC interviewed Prince

00:18:33.600 Andrew about his role. Did he rape young girls like Epstein did? Here's how it looked on the BBC.

00:18:41.820 One of Epstein's accusers, Virginia Roberts, has made allegations against you. She was very specific

00:18:48.680 about that night. She described dancing with you and you profusely sweating and that she went on to have

00:18:56.860 bath. There's a slight problem with the sweating because I have a peculiar medical condition which

00:19:08.860 is that I don't sweat, or I didn't sweat at the time. And that was, oh actually, yes, I didn't sweat

00:19:15.860 at the time. Because I had suffered what I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands War

00:19:22.860 when I was shot at. And I simply, it was almost impossible for me to sweat.

00:19:30.860 Yeah, mate, I think you're a liar. Well, after that interview, the Queen fired him. I mean,

00:19:39.440 the Queen is his mum. He is still who he is. But she essentially said, you're not representing our

00:19:46.620 family or our country anymore. You're a disgrace. Now she let him make the announcement to save whatever

00:19:51.960 scraps of dignity he has left. But he's done. If that's how she handles her own son, I bet she'll

00:20:03.240 be as tough with her grandson and his grasping American wife. I wouldn't be, wouldn't that be 1.00

00:20:09.800 just a thing? I mean, what do they want? What are they after? Free stuff, but obviously the title to

00:20:17.000 rent out, to ring out, Sussex Royal. Well, that's exactly what the Queen should take away from them. 0.67

00:20:25.560 Take away all the free stuff, all the money, all the glitz and glamour and the perks. But take away

00:20:30.780 the word Sussex. Just like King Edward became the Duke of Windsor, that's still a pretty nice title,

00:20:38.280 isn't it? And that governor of the Bahamas thing. And Prince Harry is not the king. I think he's about

00:20:44.580 5th or 6th in line, so he'll never be king. He's not that high. I think Meghan and Harry

00:20:50.000 need a new name. They need a low name. But one that won't sell in America. One that's a bit too

00:21:00.200 quirky, a bit maybe even gross or weird sounding. One that'll make Americans say, huh?

00:21:05.380 Like the Earl of Sandwich. You ever heard of that? There's nothing wrong with sandwiches. I love

00:21:14.620 sandwiches, you can see. I think most people do. There are, you know, the Sandwich Islands. That's

00:21:19.540 what Hawaii used to be called. There's still a place called the South Sandwich Islands. This is a map.

00:21:26.800 Do you see how far away they are? They're near the Falklands, near Antarctica. They're near the South Pole.

00:21:32.000 Oh! I think that is perfect for these two grifters to be the governor of the South Sandwich Islands.

00:21:42.520 Now, the trouble is, this guy is already the Earl of Sandwich. He's a real guy, John Montague.

00:21:51.140 And he has plenty of heirs. So I'm not sure if he'd give up the title. It's his title by right.

00:21:57.560 But if he's the Earl of Sandwich, I don't know, maybe Harry can be renamed the Duke of Donuts or

00:22:07.020 something like that. I don't know. Meghan can become the Duchess of Donuts. No problem. 0.99

00:22:11.400 I think they might actually love it. They could open up a really, really classy donut and coffee

00:22:16.480 shop in Tofino in Beverly Hills, charge all their sea-less friends $10 a coffee or something.

00:22:21.960 really live in the life. Just get them out of the senior ranks of the royal family, as Harry

00:22:27.900 calls it. Like the royals removed that Nazi sympathizer, Edward, and his gold digger wife 0.97

00:22:34.380 80 years ago, before they destroyed the whole place, too. Stay with us for more.

00:22:41.680 Welcome back. Well, when I first heard that a passenger airliner crashed in Iran at precisely

00:22:59.100 the same time as Iran's missile strikes on Iraqi air bases, I put the two things together.

00:23:05.940 But it was another day or so before intelligence agencies said, in fact, that's what had happened.

00:23:13.620 The missile had downed the airliner, killing more than 175 civilians. But I didn't realize

00:23:21.820 till even later that the jet that crashed was hundreds of miles away from the Iranian attack

00:23:30.920 on those Iraqi air bases. That's just one of the very many strange things about this. 0.99

00:23:38.100 I haven't been in a war, thank God. But our next guest is someone who has. And I'm hoping that he will

00:23:45.340 help us shed a light on what might have happened, what could have happened, and what we can do now.

00:23:50.700 I'm talking about our friend Lee Humphrey, who is a Canadian Forces veteran. And he, in fact,

00:23:56.940 help start, veterans for the Conservative Party of Canada. Lee, it's great to see you again. Thanks

00:24:01.240 for being here. You're very welcome, Bowser. It's good to talk to you.

00:24:04.900 Well, I mean, one of the terrible things about war is that it doesn't just have casualties amongst

00:24:11.080 the combatants, but of course, civilians, collateral damage. Often there are more civilian deaths in a

00:24:18.180 war than soldiers themselves. This, there's a lot of questions about this. Give me your thoughts.

00:24:25.980 Were these people, do you think, likely shot by accident? Do you think this was some bizarre

00:24:31.300 vengeance or message sent to the West? Just to help us wrap our heads around what went on with

00:24:37.960 this passenger airliner. Yeah, so the system that is most likely to have been used is called the SA-15,

00:24:49.140 which is a Russian-based mobile medium-range surface-to-air missile system used to shoot

00:24:57.600 down enemy aircraft. And it has two functions. It has an automatic function where a computer,

00:25:03.660 based on algorithms of flight patterns for aircraft, determines that something is an enemy aircraft,

00:25:11.540 or it has a manual function, and an operator using the built-in radar system that the system operates

00:25:22.560 under, can launch missiles. So the real question, and something we will probably never learn,

00:25:30.420 is whether it was in automatic mode, and it failed because the Russians hadn't updated the

00:25:38.000 algorithms properly for the Iranians, or whether it was in manual mode, and you have a nervous

00:25:44.700 young officer who is concerned about incoming American missiles or incoming American aircraft

00:25:53.080 attacking Tehran, who panics and misreads what he's seen on his radar screen.

00:26:00.200 Those are definitely two possibilities. A programming glitch, terrible, terrible glitch. The other is a

00:26:08.160 nervous, young, panicky officer. But would you say that there's also perhaps another alternative,

00:26:15.920 which is that this wasn't a glitch, and this wasn't a panicky young officer, but rather this was a

00:26:21.860 willful, thoughtful, evil decision made wittingly. And the reason I suggest that, and again, I have no

00:26:30.860 experience with Iran or with the world of military things, but if I understand it, there were other

00:26:37.840 jet airliners coming and going. This was taking off from Tehran heading out. This was many miles away

00:26:45.720 from an Iranian border. The possibility that this was some bizarre, deliberate decision from Iran. I

00:26:56.660 can't, I mean, I'm so paranoid about the Ayatollahs and their attempts to harm the West, that I can't help 1.00

00:27:03.560 but think maybe it wasn't a glitch, or a panicky young guy who made a mistake. Maybe this was a sober-minded,

00:27:10.320 positively made decision. Yeah, so the willingness of the Ayatollahs to kill their own people makes this a 0.93

00:27:19.240 simple and easy thing to conclude. And had it occurred closer to the battlefield, if you will, where

00:27:29.440 missiles were being launched, had it occurred in the middle of a U.S. retaliatory strike, which never did

00:27:37.980 come. I'd be more inclined to include that as a more distinct possibility. The fact that it occurred

00:27:50.180 right in Tehran, I mean, the plane literally was hit within four to six minutes of takeoff,

00:27:59.260 meant it crashed into the suburbs and the farming agriculture land just on the outskirts of Tehran,

00:28:05.600 made it very obvious and very easy for U.S. intelligence, which monitors all of these

00:28:12.220 areas for missiles being launched. And they have satellite communication intercepts of the crews

00:28:21.300 talking and of government officials talking. So I find it hard to believe that this would have been

00:28:30.320 willful simply because of where it took place, how it took place. There is some crazy willfulness on

00:28:37.480 the idea that they allowed their airport to continue to operate only four hours after they launched

00:28:44.900 missiles at a sovereign nation attacking the United States and its coalition partners,

00:28:50.400 and were expecting retaliation unless they had communications from the United States back saying,

00:28:57.000 you know, you do your save the face attack and we won't respond. But, you know, I struggle with the

00:29:06.060 idea that this was a purposeful attack simply because of where it occurred and how it occurred.

00:29:12.840 Well, let's say it was a nervous, panicky young officer or a technological glitch that the two

00:29:20.480 other alternatives you put forward. Occasionally, airlines are shot down by accident or on purpose.

00:29:29.620 I mean, in fact, the United States shot down an Iranian airliner some years ago. They claim they 0.66

00:29:37.500 tried to hail it 12 times. They claim it was coming for their airspace. They shot it. It happened. Now,

00:29:44.160 America sent a letter of regret, paid tens of millions of dollars in reparations to the families.

00:29:53.020 Obviously, a terrible thing. So terrible things do happen. And I don't believe for a second that when

00:29:59.240 America downed that Iranian jet years ago, that anyone would have done so willfully, perhaps, God forbid, 0.72

00:30:06.620 negligently or accidentally. But that's just not how America fights. And it certainly did great harm

00:30:14.280 to America's reputation. Let's say it was those first two possibilities you outlined, an accident or

00:30:22.400 a panicky young guy. How would or should Iran deal with this? Not how should they? We know how they 0.99

00:30:33.800 should. How do you think they will? They've already said they won't hand over the black box. 0.95

00:30:38.940 They already, quote, cleaned up the scene of the crash, removing, let's say, that remnants of the

00:30:46.240 SA-15 missile. What will Iran do now? Will they make an acknowledgement? What will they do or say?

00:30:55.120 Yeah, well, I think they're going to follow the same pattern of behavior that they've always followed.

00:31:02.800 They will deny this completely. They will never admit this occurred. I will be really,

00:31:11.740 really shocked if the data associated with those black boxes makes it out of Iran. I'll be shocked if 0.74

00:31:19.140 the Canadian investigative team actually gets into Iran until the site is fully cleaned up.

00:31:27.420 I doubt they'll get access, the kind of access that they would normally get in a normal plane crash

00:31:35.560 or an incident where an airliner is down, regardless of how it is down. I think you'll see a lot of the

00:31:41.600 same sort of denials that Russia made when they downed the Malaysian airliner over the Ukraine.

00:31:51.960 And it will be up to the world community to prove this beyond a reasonable doubt to the rest of the

00:31:59.040 world. And it took four to five years for the world community to do that in the case of the

00:32:05.500 Malaysian airline, while Russia still to this day denies that their Puck anti-missile system,

00:32:12.720 or Buck anti-missile system, brought that airliner down. Iran will never admit to this. 0.76

00:32:19.420 Yeah. You know, I want to note something. I mean, Muammar Gaddafi of Libya was certainly no

00:32:25.720 kind gentleman. But in the brief moment where he tried to realign himself towards the West,

00:32:32.040 I think maybe in the first time in history, he acknowledged that Libyan forces knocked down

00:32:39.840 a commercial airliner over Scotland, took responsibility, and he actually paid more than

00:32:45.820 a billion dollars in reparations, which, I mean, he was trying to realign and synchronize his country

00:32:53.680 with the West, how that country has fallen since then. So it's maybe in the future, some possible

00:33:00.740 Iranian government trying to change its place in the world might own up to it. But I think you're 1.00

00:33:05.600 right. I think they're going to stonewall. So what should Trudeau do? I mean, I paid very close 0.99

00:33:12.800 attention to his press conference yesterday. He did not have any words that even came close to

00:33:18.160 accusation, condemnation, or even criticism of Iran. There just were no negative words,

00:33:24.540 let alone insults or threats. In fact, he led with the statement, this is probably inadvertent.

00:33:33.140 The only person he obliquely blamed in three answers to three separate questions, he implied

00:33:42.000 that Donald Trump set things in motion with their drone strike against the terrorist general.

00:33:48.500 So I think that Trudeau is extremely acquiescent and submissive right now. Do you think that will

00:33:58.340 ever change? Do you think Trudeau, what could he do? What should he do? I understand if he's sending a

00:34:04.600 team over there to get access and investigate, maybe he has to hold his tongue a bit. But I think that

00:34:10.460 he's going to be stonewalled. What should he do in that case? 0.91

00:34:13.100 Yeah, so I agree with your assessment that I gave the Prime Minister a minor pass yesterday. I was

00:34:22.100 disappointed that he didn't use one of those three questions to take that off ramp and say,

00:34:29.060 no, this is not Donald Trump's fault. This is Iran's fault. It's an Iranian missile that took down

00:34:37.920 an aircraft, an aircraft, a civilian aircraft, whether accidentally or purposefully outside of

00:34:44.860 the capital of Iran. So I was a bit perturbed that he didn't take that opportunity in one of those

00:34:53.140 three questions to say, no, this is not Donald Trump's fault. But at the same time, to be fair to

00:34:59.520 the Prime Minister, I do believe that at this point, because they have the bodies of 63 Canadians,

00:35:06.840 and under Iranian law, they do not recognize dual citizenship. And I'm not sure how many of the 63

00:35:17.020 are dual citizenship Iranian Canadians, or how many were actually born in Canada and are strictly

00:35:24.740 Canadian citizens. But Iran could keep those bodies and bury them in Iran under their law and treat them

00:35:35.980 as Iranians and not return them to their families here in Canada. So I will give the Prime Minister

00:35:42.900 somewhat of a pass for holding his tongue until we can get our people out of Iran. And we can get our 0.97

00:35:50.800 accident investigators in there to get whatever it is they can get. It may be very little in the long

00:35:56.860 run, but it's certainly worth a shot. Right.

00:35:59.880 And I'm sure the Americans in the background would truly appreciate if professionals from

00:36:06.480 Canada were able to get access to the black boxes. And I know the executives at Boeing that want to

00:36:13.720 find out what happened to their aircraft would want that information as well.

00:36:18.800 Yeah. Well, yesterday, one of the strange things in Trudeau's press conferences, he mentioned he talked to

00:36:24.700 several world leaders. He mentioned, it stuck in my mind, the Prime Minister of the Netherlands. Of course,

00:36:31.920 there was the connection to their downed airliner a few years back. But it seemed to me that one person

00:36:40.740 that Trudeau didn't phone, and I think he would have said if he had done so, was President Trump.

00:36:47.920 He mentioned Trump obliquely by, you know, implying there's blame there. But it sounds to me, Lee,

00:36:56.220 like Justin Trudeau has not spoken to Donald Trump since that NATO meeting late last year,

00:37:02.320 where Trudeau sort of poked fun at Trump for being too talkative and being slow, like where he was sort of

00:37:08.520 giggling with the other NATO leaders about Trump. I would think that Trudeau would want to talk to

00:37:15.480 Trump to get Trump's either intelligence, to understand Trump's strategy, to get advice from

00:37:21.120 Trump, to get help from Trump. I think that if they would have spoken, we wouldn't have known about it.

00:37:27.760 I don't think they've spoken. And I think that's a problem to me. What do you think of that?

00:37:32.580 I absolutely don't think they've spoken. And I highly doubt they would speak about anything

00:37:41.200 other than a cursory call where Trump expressed his condolences. But my bet is that the only

00:37:49.620 relationship left is at levels below the head of state level. So you might see a bit of a relationship

00:37:58.560 between Pence and Freeland. But even that might be a little dicey. And I think it might have to

00:38:07.000 fall on the shoulders of the ministers working with the cabinet secretaries in the United States.

00:38:13.920 I know that Secretary of State Pompeo spoke with our foreign minister today

00:38:20.700 and exchanged both condolences and had a bit of a working meeting. So my guess is it's going to be

00:38:29.360 at that level because Trudeau just can't help himself. He gets every opportunity to get back

00:38:35.800 into the good graces of President Trump, which is so necessary if we're ever going to get the two

00:38:42.800 Michaels out of China. And every time he has that opportunity to repair that relationship,

00:38:51.380 he does something immature, silly, or downright foolish to further crater the relationship.

00:38:59.000 Yeah. You know, he had a 17-day trip to Costa Rica, which is an extremely long holiday

00:39:05.400 for a world leader of a G7 country. Things started to get hot in Iraq and Iran, December 31st. That's

00:39:14.200 when the attack on the embassy happened. Things really heated up over the next 48 hours.

00:39:21.280 Trudeau did not break away from that holiday. He seemed detached from the world. And I suppose that's

00:39:28.960 okay when Donald Trump is doing the heavy lifting. But all of a sudden, Canada was thrust into the

00:39:34.600 middle of it. And I sense that Trudeau is saying, oh, okay, I guess I have to come back to work. I

00:39:39.820 guess I got to put on a suit and show myself to the public. But he seems really disengaged on this

00:39:45.440 file. I think you're correct to mention the two Michaels, the two hostages in China. I just think

00:39:54.100 that Trudeau feels like he's in shell shock or he's tuned out. I don't want to engage in some

00:40:01.320 diagnosis. But he almost seems like he's depressed and unmotivated. I think that he's disengaged. It's

00:40:09.740 like he's not even there mentally. I don't know. Maybe that's too much speculation on my part. Let

00:40:14.220 me leave you to give the final word. What do you think is ahead for your 2020? I think we're off to

00:40:20.620 a terrible start. Yeah. And I'd even back you up a little bit, Ezra, in the sense of on the 27th,

00:40:28.000 when the PMUs, the Popular Mobilization Units, which are Shia militias, when they struck coalition

00:40:37.960 bases in the northern part and western part of Iraq, the Canadian base in Erbil at the airport and the

00:40:45.940 Baghdad area bases were put on high alert. And the prime minister didn't engage. The next day, the U.S.

00:40:53.820 struck back and killed almost 50 members of the Shia militia, various militias, and hit storage sites

00:41:01.000 for rockets and such all over Iraq. And the Canadian government, Trudeau, was not heard from.

00:41:07.940 So it was even a week before that when Canadian forces directly went on high alert and their force

00:41:14.300 protection levels were raised significantly as this tit-for-tat began with the Shia militia.

00:41:22.220 But to your broader point on the prime minister, I'm no psychologist, but what I have seen before

00:41:28.960 is people that are motivated to win fights and people that are whipped.

00:41:33.040 And Prime Minister Trudeau looks like the recruit that's just about to quit and call it a day and say

00:41:42.100 the Canadian forces is not for him.

00:41:45.880 Yeah, you know what? That's exactly right. And I got no problem with a guy having a beard. You've got

00:41:50.900 a handsome beard yourself. But just that look of, like he feels like he's not, I mean, we've had great

00:41:59.700 prime ministers with great beards. I mean, it's been a while, I suppose. But it just feels like his

00:42:04.240 mentally, he wants to go back to Costa Rica, take it easy, go in a town, shop for beer, hang out on the

00:42:11.840 beach. Like it feels like he's still in vacation mode. That's his happy place. Whereas Trump, whatever

00:42:17.760 else you think of him, the guy thrives on the action, the deal, the, like he's always kinetic. He's

00:42:25.920 always going. And, and he, he takes the odd round of golf, which I think he uses for business purposes.

00:42:31.660 But I don't think Donald Trump's taking a vacation in, in his term. You wouldn't think that Trump is

00:42:39.200 almost twice as old as Trudeau, given his engagement, his energy, his schedule. I, I'm, I'm worried. And I

00:42:47.040 don't even know who the, the backup PM is, because I don't think the answer, Chrystia Freeland, is a

00:42:52.720 satisfactory one. Last word to you, my friend. Well, you know, we, we ended 2019 with several

00:43:00.600 world crisis occurring, uh, at the same time as we have a lot of political protests in South and

00:43:08.760 Central America and throughout Europe. France has been in turmoil for better part of a year,

00:43:15.740 and it's only increasing as they move to a general strike. Uh, Mr. Trudeau was reduced to a minority

00:43:22.020 government, meaning a whole new host of challenges for him. And we kicked off 2020, uh, with literally

00:43:30.500 quite the bang. And sadly, a lot of dead Canadians on the other side of the world. And this is no time

00:43:39.180 for a prime minister that is, has taken his walk in the snow and is debating the timing of, of when to

00:43:47.020 pull the pin. We need somebody that is out there and advocating for Canada and has the energy to do

00:43:54.000 the job. And if he doesn't have it, then he needs to get out of the way and let Christina Freeland take

00:43:59.240 over or whomever, but somebody that wants it. Yeah. Huh. Wise words. Well, we'll have to have you on

00:44:05.040 another day to, to get your thoughts on the Conservative Party's leadership contest. It's not really in high

00:44:11.040 gear yet. We've had a couple of names, but once that's up and running, I'd be very curious to have

00:44:15.980 your rundown of the various candidates, the pros and the cons, because I know you were very engaged

00:44:20.980 in those things in the past. And I think foreign affairs and military matters are a legitimate, uh,

00:44:27.680 policy area we need to know, uh, from our prospective leaders. Lee, it's great to have you. Thanks for being

00:44:32.260 so generous with your time and your experience and your wisdom. Thank you, Ezra. All right. There you have

00:44:38.100 with our friend Lee Humphrey. He's with veterans for the Conservative Party of Canada and also James

00:44:43.760 International Security Consulting. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel. Hey, welcome back on my

00:44:56.960 monologue yesterday about banning Iran. Daniel writes, Trudeau will not retaliate in any form.

00:45:02.800 He'll probably send them a pallet of cash. Well, it's funny today, I think it was today, I'm getting my hours

00:45:09.500 mixed up. Donald Trump rolled out new sanctions against Iran, like additional sanctions. As far as I know, Canada

00:45:18.280 hasn't matched them yet. Why? It wasn't 63 Americans who were killed. Why is Trudeau not matching Trump's

00:45:27.320 sanctions? Steve writes, why is anyone sending foreign aid to Iran? Well, I showed you that under

00:45:33.760 Trudeau, about 20 million bucks have gone to Iran from Canada. Um, then again, Trudeau is still sending

00:45:39.760 foreign aid to China. Naz writes, as an Iranian Canadian, I'm glad that we were at least told the

00:45:47.100 truth about the crash. What a nightmare. Well, Naz, there, there's a large Persian population in Toronto 1.00

00:45:52.980 and in Vancouver. And of course, in the United States, it's a very large Persian population,

00:45:57.140 especially in Los Angeles. I think a lot of Persians who came over when the Ayatollahs seized power

00:46:02.960 are very liberal, Western, moderate people. And I think there is still a core of Iran that way.

00:46:09.320 That's why it's so interesting to watch Donald Trump. I think a lot of people thought he was

00:46:12.960 going to just dumbly, blindly attack or invade even. I don't think Trump wants to invade. I don't

00:46:20.000 think he wants a foreign military adventure. But what if he could topple the Ayatollahs and allow 0.77

00:46:27.240 some sort of organic civil government to emerge from Iran? I think that's actually possible in a way

00:46:34.980 that's probably not possible in Iraq and definitely not possible in Afghanistan. What's so weird is that

00:46:41.500 the Iranian-Canadian MP for Richmond Hill is like the only Persian I know who's pro-Ayatollah,

00:46:50.420 whereas most Canadian Persians are pro-democracy. Well, that's our show for today. Until next time, 0.98

00:46:56.900 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World headquarters to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.

00:47:11.500 Yeah.

Rebel News Podcast - January 11, 2020

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry give up the duties of the Royal Family while keeping all the benefits

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