Rebel News Podcast - September 01, 2018


“Climate Barbie” blackmails provinces with their own money — but can't keep her “trillions” straight (GUEST HOST: Sheila Gunn Reid)

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Environment Minister Catherine McKenna is trying to blackmail the provinces with $11 billion of their own money. Will the provinces cave to her extortion demands, or will they tell her to stick her carbon tax in a jet engine and take off?

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00:00:00.000 Canada's Minister of Weather and Twitter Gats is trying to blackmail the provinces with
00:00:04.580 $11 billion gazillion dollars of their own money. Will the provinces cave to Catherine
00:00:10.180 McKenna's extortion demands? Or will they tell her to stick her carbon tax in a jet 1.00
00:00:14.800 engine and take off? It's August 31st, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The
00:00:21.240 Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:22.380 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know? There's 8,500
00:00:32.560 customers here, and you won't give them an answer. You come here once a year with a sign,
00:00:37.040 and you feel morally superior. The only thing I have to say to the government about why I
00:00:41.760 publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:44.620 The federal government is now trying to blackmail the provinces into supporting a carbon tax,
00:00:54.900 you know, with their very own money. Canada's gaffe-prone environment minister Catherine
00:00:59.320 McKenna says that provinces who don't sign up to her plan to deal with climate change
00:01:05.020 will now forfeit their share of her $2 billion federal low-carbon economy fund. 0.84
00:01:11.180 So far, McKenna is trying to extort support from the likes of Saskatchewan, Ontario, New
00:01:17.700 Brunswick, and unbelievably now Alberta. But before you Albertans get too excited, Alberta's
00:01:24.760 Premier Rachel Notley has said that she'll abandon the federal climate plan until Kinder
00:01:30.020 Morgan Trans Mountain Pipeline sees some firmer help from the feds. But you know what, Rachel
00:01:37.220 Notley, she's still keeping her carbon tax firmly in place. So really, for Alberta taxpayers
00:01:43.100 like me, it doesn't make any difference whether or not it's Rachel Notley's face on my carbon
00:01:47.120 tax bill or Catherine McKenna's. It is literally all the same to me. But I think all these demands
00:01:53.100 from Catherine McKenna might be to save her job in cabinet. You see, Trudeau just removed climate
00:01:59.520 change from the official name of Catherine McKenna's cabinet committee on the environment. Her baby,
00:02:05.840 her climate change, her reason to be, it's erased. Maybe Trudeau's getting ready to erase McKenna from
00:02:12.080 cabinet. You know what, here's hoping. But the amount of money McKenna is trying to use to gang 1.00
00:02:17.660 press provinces into saving her job might be the only thing she really knows. Everything else is just
00:02:23.900 her making it up, blaming climate change for things she doesn't quite understand, like the economy or
00:02:29.960 like science. Three weeks ago in BC at a cabinet retreat, McKenna was so sure she had the reason
00:02:36.300 for this year's BC forest fires figured out. Just watch. Well, I've now been in British Columbia for
00:02:42.540 much of this week and certainly seeing the forest fires across British Columbia just demonstrates
00:02:49.900 that climate change is having a real impact on Canadians. You see, McKenna smelled smoke and when
00:02:54.780 there's smoke, there's fire. And when there's fire, there's climate change. Except well before that
00:03:00.840 statement from the brainiac McKenna, RCMP investigators had already determined that many of the wildfires
00:03:07.720 plaguing the Okanagan were the result of arson. Apparently, climate change causes pyromania too. Is there
00:03:15.200 absolutely nothing that climate change cannot do? But as recently as just a few days ago, Catherine McKenna
00:03:22.740 was saying that if carbon tax skeptics didn't get on board with her plan to tax the air to change the 0.51
00:03:29.320 weather, they'd be losing out on an impossible sum of money. A completely different amount than what
00:03:35.920 she's blackmailing us with now. McKenna tweeted this out last week. Would also be good if the federal
00:03:43.200 conservatives had a plan to tackle climate change. Like the Harper government, they fail to understand the
00:03:50.100 real cost of climate change to Canadians. From extreme heat, to fires, to flooding, and the 30
00:03:57.680 trillion opportunity of climate change. Let me say that again for you. 30 trillion dollars. That's a lot of
00:04:05.940 money. In fact, it's so much money, it's around 15 times the size of the entire Canadian economy. How much
00:04:13.960 scrutiny do you think McKenna got from the mainstream media for her $11 billion trillion carbon tax
00:04:20.860 opportunity gaffe? You know it's next to nothing of course, right? Now back in April of 2016, McKenna told
00:04:28.540 the World Bank Group Carbon Pricing Leadership Coalition that climate change was a $3 trillion
00:04:35.540 opportunity. Two years later, in April of 2018, in a press release from her very own ministry, McKenna said
00:04:42.800 that climate change would open up nearly $23 trillion in opportunity. By July, though, of 2018, McKenna told
00:04:52.080 CBC's As It Happens that climate change was a $1 trillion opportunity. She can't keep her BS straight. But you,
00:05:02.260 dear citizen, you're the dumb one if you don't want to pay a carbon tax based on McKenna pulling numbers just out of the 1.00
00:05:09.660 ether. McKenna's tried her hand at passing off other exorbitant amounts that we would lose without 1.00
00:05:15.860 a carbon tax and no one really ever seemed to hold her accountable for making up these ridiculous 0.64
00:05:21.000 figures. So why not just go all in and say like $30 trillion? McKenna's just making things up. The UN
00:05:27.620 could sell her a bag of magic beans and when they didn't grow, she'd blame climate change, right?
00:05:33.480 But Canadians aren't buying it. Canadians are smart enough to realize that they save money by not
00:05:41.360 giving the government their money in the form of a carbon tax or any other tax, regardless of what
00:05:47.460 Catherine McKenna says. Our $2 trillion economy will not grow to $30 trillion because of McKenna's
00:05:54.160 virtue tax. But don't you dare criticize McKenna about it. She's got a rule about that. Again, back to
00:06:01.200 McKenna's disaster Twitter account. When Lisa Raitt said at the Conservative Convention in Halifax
00:06:07.520 that she would never be allowed in the Liberal Party because when Raitt succeeds, she doesn't want
00:06:14.040 it to be because of some quota from the Prime Minister's office. Raitt said she wants to succeed
00:06:19.500 because she earned it. McKenna chimed in. I suppose self-identifying as one of those quota hires 0.63
00:06:27.580 rate was referring to. So maybe McKenna's becoming self-aware. That's good, I guess. But not really
00:06:34.460 because McKenna called the comment about earning success a really strange comment. McKenna said,
00:06:41.340 women should be supporting women from all parties, not trying to diminish them and their achievements. 0.94
00:06:48.900 Rachel Harder, the hardworking millennial conservative MP, the Liberals blocked from sitting on the status
00:06:56.160 of women committee because she may or may not believe that life begins at conception, was unavailable
00:07:03.840 for comment. Stay with me. A much smarter woman joins me up next after the break. 1.00
00:07:26.160 Congratulations, taxpayers. You bought yourself a pipeline that may never get built. Remember this
00:07:33.800 photograph here? It's of Rachel Notley and Justin Trudeau's infrastructure minister, Amarjeet Sohi,
00:07:39.980 and they're celebrating what's supposed to be the groundbreaking, the start of construction on the
00:07:45.980 Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion. Oh, but it wasn't groundbreaking. They were shoveling us a
00:07:52.800 bunch of BS because yesterday the Supreme Court of Canada squashed the pipeline approval, sending it
00:08:00.180 back to the drawing board. Now joining me to discuss all this and more is one of my favorite, favorite
00:08:06.660 conservative activists on the entire planet. She's a founder of Alberta Can't Wait, she's a founder of
00:08:13.480 Safe Calgary, and she's a founder of Canadians for Democracy and Prosperity. Joining me now from Calgary
00:08:19.740 is my friend Prem Singh. Hey Prem, thanks for joining me. Thanks for having me, Sheila. Now, on this bad day
00:08:29.240 for Alberta and bad day for Canada. Yeah, you know, it is, we're on the hook now for something that costs
00:08:35.440 roughly eight billion dollars, and we don't know if it's ever going to get built. The pipeline approval
00:08:42.460 process has already taken five years, and the Supreme Court of Canada just sent it back to the
00:08:49.480 drawing board. If the Supreme Court of Canada can overrule these decisions, why do we have a National
00:08:55.060 Energy Board at all? Well, exactly. I mean, this is a very, it's a terrible, terrible day for Canadian
00:09:01.700 taxpayers who invested billions of dollars in overpaying for this pipeline when a private sector
00:09:08.580 company had the wherewithal to do it and wanted to do it. Delay after delay, I mean, now we're starting
00:09:14.500 from scratch again, so even if the government can't get pipelines because they're over-regulated
00:09:20.860 to the point that they can't succeed, why would anyone invest in Canada? Between our provincial
00:09:26.520 government, First Nation bans, environmentalists, hostile federal governments, ever-changing
00:09:32.980 regulatory regimes and assessment processes, now the Court of Appeals, there's zero investment
00:09:40.500 certainty. You know, I was reading through some of the Supreme Court of Canada's decision,
00:09:46.220 and they said that the primary problem in all of this happened on Justin Trudeau's watch. They said
00:09:52.360 the consultation process part three and four with aboriginal groups was inadequate. Well, that's 1.00
00:10:00.860 Justin Trudeau's thing.
00:10:02.440 Yeah, I mean, where do we go? What's this definition of consultation? Like, no project's ever going to
00:10:10.720 please every single person. The Court of Appeals said insufficient consultation occurred. How much
00:10:17.140 consultation will it take to please the court? The Supreme Court already said the consultation need
00:10:22.800 not be perfect, except when it does, apparently, like today. And it's important to note this is the
00:10:29.800 same judge as the Northern Gateway. Yeah, you know what, and I was reading somewhere that two of three
00:10:36.280 of the judges that ruled on this were appointed under Harper. So I think as Canadians, we have to have a
00:10:41.840 really serious conversation, the way they have in the United States, about appointing activist judges
00:10:48.240 to Parliament, or to the Court, who are overriding the will of Parliament and the will of the people.
00:10:53.800 Definitely, definitely. I mean, what's happened, we're always playing politics, not we, but our
00:11:00.120 political parties and the politicians. They're always playing politics instead of doing the right
00:11:06.160 thing. The real winners today are the Kinder Morgan shareholders and the executives that got millions
00:11:11.920 of dollars in bonuses. They offloaded Trans Mountain to Canadian taxpayers at such a huge valuation
00:11:18.660 before the court decision. How convenient. I mean, they were the smartest guys in the room. Mind you,
00:11:24.980 with the Trudeau government, that's not that hard. But if you look, today, all of the Canadian oil stocks
00:11:31.760 plummeted. Our differential is now the highest it's been since 2013, the WCS to WTI differential, that it's now
00:11:41.640 $31. I mean, SEPA, our Energy Pipeline Association, they already testified that under Bill C-69, which
00:11:50.660 hasn't even become a law, no pipelines would ever go ahead. Well, we don't even need that bill. I mean,
00:11:57.660 it's already happening. I mean, we've criticized the Trudeau Liberals and the NDP on this from day one. I mean,
00:12:05.120 frankly, in my opinion, it was all a facade and they're probably dancing secretly behind closed
00:12:11.060 doors because we both know and we've seen how Justin and Notley like to dance. But if this was
00:12:18.900 happening in India or China, do you think this would be happening? They would have built it 10 times the
00:12:24.840 project in like one tenth of the time without any problems. It just happened. Well, and we hear this
00:12:31.680 all the time, we hear Justin Trudeau saying, well, I didn't kill Northern Gateway. The court decided
00:12:37.020 against Northern Gateway. They offload the responsibility and the no and the political
00:12:44.160 hot potato of the no onto the court. That's right. Because they just want to maintain power and 0.98
00:12:49.900 maintain votes so they make it look like they're trying, but they're not. I mean, this was all a
00:12:55.740 facade. I mean, all of our major parties support some Soviet style protection for dairy farmers.
00:13:02.740 The government, i.e., we own an overpriced pipeline we can't build and small groups are killing billions
00:13:09.760 of investment in Canada. It's a double whammy for us with this week with Trans Mountain. We've yet to
00:13:15.840 find out what's going to happen with NAFTA. I'm not too sure if Christia put her sneakers on today
00:13:22.960 or what, but we're the laughing stock of the world. Like, we're a country that's blessed with energy
00:13:29.400 resources and we shoot ourselves in the foot time after time. It's, I mean, I don't even know,
00:13:36.740 it's day after day. It just keeps getting progressively worse. And that's why it's up to the grassroots.
00:13:43.180 It's up to everyday Canadians to get engaged and hold our politicians and parties to account.
00:13:50.560 I mean, Canada's closed for business. The biggest question on my mind today is can we survive? Can
00:13:57.260 federation, can confederation survive this? And it's a serious issue. I mean, you look on social
00:14:04.700 media, you talk to people out on the street. Everybody is talking about how Alberta and
00:14:10.480 Saskatchewan have been taken advantage of and they're like, now's the time.
00:14:15.800 Yeah. I mean, we're seeing, I think I'm seeing a rise in Western alienation like I haven't seen
00:14:21.580 in my entire lifetime. And, you know, when you talk to the old timers around, they'll say,
00:14:25.880 this is worse. This is worse. The sentiment that we are being taken advantage of by confederation,
00:14:31.700 it's worse now for a lot of people than it was under the National Energy Program.
00:14:37.540 I wanted to ask you.
00:14:39.180 If you see billions of dollars that weren't collected in taxes, the majority of which used
00:14:44.540 to come from Alberta, you're going to see even more of that. Because I think a lot of executives
00:14:48.940 downtown that I personally know, they're going to be like, you know what, I'm old enough,
00:14:54.220 I'm out of here. I don't need to, as much as we all love Calgary, as much as we all love
00:14:59.160 Canada, there comes a point in time where there's the straw that breaks the camel's
00:15:03.740 back. And I think this is, this is, we're pretty damn close to it all happening. And
00:15:09.400 we won't just see one or two, it's going to be a mass exodus. It's going to be a mass
00:15:13.780 exodus of established, you know, Canadian families leaving, plus a brain drain. Because
00:15:20.140 who in their right mind wants to stay here?
00:15:22.380 Now, speaking of who in their right mind wants to stay here, do you think that Amarjeet
00:15:29.620 Sohi and Randy Boissoneau and Kent Hare, do you think they're going to stay in their role
00:15:37.400 as MPs for the Liberal Party in Alberta? What does the demise of this pipeline really mean
00:15:46.380 for them?
00:15:47.380 I think, I mean, Amarjeet Sohi should stick to his million dollar renovations of his office.
00:15:53.620 But, well, I mean, it's clear that he was made the resource minister just because of where
00:15:59.460 he's situated and they couldn't give that portfolio to Kent Hare right now. Kent Hare on the window
00:16:04.860 of his office has a sign that says pipelines approved. I saw that from a tweet online. Are they both
00:16:12.380 going to be able to survive this? I don't know. They're going to spin it in a manner where they
00:16:18.080 will say, oh, we've done everything. And they'll do the typical blame game, which they do for
00:16:23.000 everything in this government, is that they'll blame Harper. That seems to be the easiest thing
00:16:28.420 for them to do is blaming Harper. I'm sure that if Chrystia Freeland fails this week, she'll blame 0.99
00:16:35.580 Harper for that too.
00:16:36.660 You know, I was just going to say that because I saw a story with Bill Morneau, who is blaming
00:16:43.400 Harper for this, is saying that Harper's responsible for the flawed process. But why then did his
00:16:51.100 government approve a pipeline to be built under a flawed process? And the Liberals changed the
00:16:57.980 process halfway through the game anyways.
00:17:00.000 Yeah, I think, you know, they have, the Liberals have their hands full with problems right now. And
00:17:06.240 our key man, our Prime Minister is, again, taking another personal day. I think Canadians need to
00:17:13.440 question, why is our Prime Minister absent? I mean, what is he doing? How many personal days? I know if I
00:17:21.240 took that many personal days, I wouldn't be able to keep my lights on. I would not have, you know,
00:17:26.480 it does not make any sense. Our governments need to run themselves like we run our own homes and our
00:17:33.140 own businesses. And they're not because we pay for them to act this way. They're not celebrities.
00:17:38.720 They're not people that we need to, like, bow down to. They're not special. And I think that's
00:17:44.600 something in our next election, both provincially and federally, we need to realize that these people
00:17:50.800 work for us. So they need to treat us with more respect. And I don't know about you, but I'm tired
00:17:57.760 of all of our parties just doing what they want to do without any sort of respect to democracy.
00:18:05.120 Well, and that is an excellent segue into me asking you about your latest project at Canadians
00:18:12.820 for Democracy and Prosperity, because I think that's what you're trying to do. I think you're trying to
00:18:17.240 hold the government to account. But you have some really exciting, like thrilling, for me, things
00:18:24.320 that you have in the works for Calgary, if you're wanting to talk about them, now's your chance.
00:18:29.640 Sure. We would like to educate the public and not just be hyper partisan about issues. We just would
00:18:39.440 like to educate people on things that they're interested in. Education, electricity, our resources,
00:18:46.480 you know, our borders, immigration, and even just how people can get involved. So we're trying to do
00:18:56.340 that in preparation for the provincial and federal election. Obviously, we are fiscally conservative,
00:19:01.900 and we want to be more common sense than anything else. But we want to hold our politicians to account,
00:19:10.820 regardless of who, which party brand they work under. You know, it's more about politicians doing the right
00:19:19.260 thing for our country and our province than just doing what keeps them in power. And I disagree with
00:19:26.580 all these people that are, oh, well, we got to get into power right now. Saying that isn't enough to
00:19:33.160 compel the everyday person that, oh, well, we just got to get these guys out, we're going to be better. Well,
00:19:38.520 better how? Give us some thought-provoking ideas. Give us, tell us how you're going to be better. Tell us
00:19:44.820 how you're going to make politics better for everyone involved. And so we are, in addition to doing some
00:19:54.760 online educational videos, we are doing some training. We did recently a training for youth,
00:20:02.920 and we taught them political training, both nation builder, social media training. They had practical
00:20:09.100 experience, not just theoretical. We're going to be offering that up to corporations and others that are
00:20:16.240 interested. And we are looking at having guest speakers, one every quarter. I'm excited to say our first guest
00:20:23.600 speaker is Tucker Carlson, that is September 22nd at Spruce Meadows, and you can contact us for more
00:20:31.840 information. And we just would like to, as I said, get more Canadians engaged and hold everybody to
00:20:41.080 account. Everybody makes mistakes. We're not going to, we don't expect politicians to be perfect by any
00:20:47.660 means. And I don't think that any Canadian is going to agree with their leader or their party 100% of the
00:20:54.700 time. If you do that, then you obviously have no free, you're not a free thinker, and you're not able
00:21:01.760 to think for yourself. So I think what we would like to do is promote civil discourse about issues that
00:21:08.880 people are afraid to talk about, that need to be talked about, just like what's happened today.
00:21:14.080 Because I do think it puts our country at a great risk of alienation on the Western front, and perhaps on the
00:21:22.720 Eastern front for their own reasons. But we need to be able to talk about that as a country, and not just do things
00:21:29.180 because we need vote banks. 1.00
00:21:31.780 You know, Prem, I just want to thank you for coming on the show. And you are such a breath of fresh air in a world of
00:21:40.260 quota hires. You are truly an accomplished woman.
00:21:44.440 I'm sure a lot of people would disagree and would like me to just shut up. But I'm here now. So oh, well.
00:21:52.760 Thanks for joining me, Prem. Up next, up next more after the break.
00:21:57.260 Now, the last time I talked to my guest was in Halifax, and she was feeling a little dejected,
00:22:13.480 much like me. We both felt that the Conservative Party was shunning the most devoted part of its base,
00:22:20.100 social conservatives, like myself and like her. But after that night that we spoke,
00:22:28.160 the next day, some changes took place. The social conservative movement within the party
00:22:33.160 out-organized the party members looking to keep them quiet. And they had quite a few successes
00:22:40.040 at the convention. So joining me tonight to discuss all of those, plus her plans for the future,
00:22:47.080 is Christian broadcaster and author, Laura Lynn Tyler-Thompson. Hey, Laura Lynn, thanks for joining
00:22:53.080 me. Sheila, thank you. It is always a pleasure to talk to you. I love what you and Ezra stand for,
00:22:59.000 which is truth. You stand for justice and, you know, and you walk a very fine line between all the
00:23:06.660 stuff going on and what we actually should be looking at. So I really like it. There's no fake
00:23:11.680 news at The Rebel, and I love it. Well, thanks, Laura. I wanted to talk to you about some of the
00:23:18.100 policy motions that were passed that are real successes for social conservatives, but some of
00:23:25.260 them are just common sense things that shouldn't be controversial at all. For example, you and I were
00:23:31.080 talking off camera about how the conservatives are trying to return government to Stephen Harper's
00:23:39.440 focus on maternal health in the developing world, as opposed to Justin Trudeau's focus
00:23:46.360 on abortion in the developing world. Right now, we spend about two-thirds of a billion dollars
00:23:51.640 on just what I like to call abortion colonialism. But the conservatives have voted to remove that
00:23:58.260 from official policy in government if they do form government in the future.
00:24:02.700 Absolutely. And that was an amazing moment. I will tell you that the crowd cheered and it gave me
00:24:11.300 hope again. It gave me hope for integrity and valuing life in our nation, which has become a topic that
00:24:18.660 we don't even want to bring up anymore. This was a moment where you could see the actual real
00:24:25.060 grassroots of the conservative party rise in a standing ovation, cheering and clapping. It was an electric
00:24:33.360 moment in that room. And I'm so grateful. And, you know, I know that if we would just open this debate
00:24:42.340 for, you know, just to be able to talk about it, that I think that we could come to even more
00:24:48.020 resolutions that are not, you know, unacceptable to the vast majority of the conservatives, fiscal or
00:24:57.180 social, you know, that we would open some debate. I would really like to see us be able to talk about
00:25:03.180 genderside, that no children, you know, need to be, you know, disposed of just because it's a baby girl
00:25:11.680 or a baby boy and the parents didn't want that. That seems wrong in this day and age. Isn't that
00:25:17.600 something we could at least talk about? Also, late-term abortions. They don't happen an awful 1.00
00:25:23.820 lot, but they do happen. And can't we talk about how that baby is just a breath away? You know,
00:25:30.420 these seem like things that we should be able to discuss in this nation. You know, and you did
00:25:35.660 mention late-term abortion. The conservatives also passed a policy that would support legislation to
00:25:42.520 give infants born alive, uh, life-saving measures. So, you know, and that's just not babies that are
00:25:51.640 born alive, born preterm, but those are babies who survive abortions. And that does happen. Um, and 0.59
00:25:59.080 those babies are denied, um, life-saving measures even after they take their first breath. And the
00:26:04.580 conservatives have, have passed a policy motion that says that they will support legislation that will
00:26:09.300 provide life-saving measures to babies born alive. That shouldn't be controversial. If a baby's born
00:26:15.080 alive, why can't we help them? I mean, isn't, I don't understand if the law is that if the baby's
00:26:23.220 born alive and they're, then they're human, why aren't we providing life-saving care to them? It
00:26:28.500 shouldn't be controversial, but it is. Should it be controversial? It makes total sense to anyone
00:26:33.280 who's a human being. If you have a heart, if you have empathy, if you care about a baby, this is not
00:26:40.080 something, uh, you know, that you'd expect anyone to have an argument against. And yet we do have that
00:26:46.880 argument against that. What is wrong with people? I, I've been off, uh, uh, I've been asking the question
00:26:52.240 lately, you know, what has happened? Has the world gone mad? And this is one of those things that it
00:26:57.680 shouldn't be difficult, Sheila. Now there was another, uh, motion that was passed that I think
00:27:02.980 is of particular interest to you because you also speak out quite loudly about, uh, the introduction
00:27:11.540 of gender theory, uh, to our children before they're ready. Um, and presenting gender theory as
00:27:19.440 fact instead of just a theory. And the conservatives passed a motion, overwhelmingly passed a motion
00:27:25.160 that would oppose any legislation that forces compelled speech. And this includes forced use
00:27:31.860 of pronouns. Right. You know, it's interesting, uh, what, what the left wants is that they, that we'd
00:27:38.080 get in a lot of trouble, have to face tribunals, all kinds of things for misgendering. I mean,
00:27:43.080 you can drive down the highway, give someone the finger, call them, you know, use the F bomb a hundred
00:27:47.780 times. Uh, you can in fact be at a, you know, any office here where there's a fight going on and
00:27:52.700 you'll have the worst, most horrible things said to somebody, you know, in a fight in,
00:27:57.500 in an office environment, or how about a family environment? But God forbid that you misgender 1.00
00:28:02.920 someone and that you have to actually speak an untruth from your lips that you don't believe
00:28:09.600 in that they are the opposite gender from what they're representing. Uh, that you, you know, 1.00
00:28:14.400 that, that you can speak this, um, that you have to be compelled to speak an untruth. How is that
00:28:20.980 okay? Like we are not, this is Canada. This is where we respect everyone. This is where we
00:28:27.680 respect diversity. We respect gays and lesbians and transsexuals and pansexuals. And we say live
00:28:34.880 your life and be free. But of course I've spoken out a lot on the gender fluidity, um, ideology that 0.67
00:28:41.060 is being, uh, you know, absolutely put through all BC schools. Now I think there's, uh, some test
00:28:48.020 cases in Alberta by next September, one year from now, Alberta will be facing what we're facing,
00:28:53.580 which is it goes into every school. And it, you know, when you think about the amount of abuse
00:29:02.620 that is hurled at you or I online, they routinely call us, you know, the C word or all kinds of stuff
00:29:09.420 that's perfectly legal to call us those things. It's gross. And, and it's uncivilized to call us
00:29:15.580 those things, but that is perfectly legal. But I, if I misgender someone currently in Canada,
00:29:21.220 that's a hate crime. I can have, uh, my life ruined. I can be left in absolute financial ruin
00:29:28.460 because I called someone he, as opposed to she, and I'm supposed to know ahead of time what they
00:29:35.620 preferred to be called and, and, you know, lives are ruined over this stuff. So I'm happy to see,
00:29:41.380 um, a boldness in the conservatives about this issue. Absolutely. And, uh, and, and these are
00:29:50.200 things that made the room erupt. These are things that really brought everyone together, uh, at the
00:29:57.160 convention. And I've been a lifelong conservative, Sheila. My parents have been conservatives, my whole
00:30:02.700 family. I have operated in conservative, uh, communities. The, the thing is, is I was never
00:30:09.780 really in the, uh, the political realm. I've always been doing television and, you know, I'm a speaker
00:30:15.080 and an author, a professional speaker for 15 years. Um, so it hasn't been my realm, but to get into that
00:30:21.540 room and to feel that electricity that binds people over what is good was, was very good.
00:30:27.520 And I think that is a great segue into where I want to go next with you. And I want to
00:30:32.600 talk about your future because you aren't in broadcast. Well, you are, I guess, still in
00:30:37.480 broadcasting, but you've left your day job. Um, and I was curious about where you're going with
00:30:42.840 your activism next. Right. Well, um, I've had to make some, some big decisions. You see, uh, the party
00:30:50.200 that I have been loyal to, uh, has decided that they didn't, uh, you know, in all fairness, they didn't
00:30:56.280 give me a waiver and they have every right to do that because I hadn't been a party member for six
00:31:01.620 months. So they had every right to do that. So they said, no, we're not going to give you the
00:31:05.680 waiver and you cannot run, uh, for a member of parliament in new Westminster. And so that was
00:31:11.300 interesting. Uh, then what they did was they acclaimed a young 23 year old who currently lives
00:31:17.600 in Ottawa, who did not get any of the 25 signatures, uh, that is required in order to submit your application.
00:31:25.660 And, uh, and so I guess what they did was they granted her a waiver of not, um, fulfilling
00:31:32.660 the requirements for the application. And I had to ask myself, so what is this about? And
00:31:37.720 of course I did describe on my previous interview that I really think it's about my activism.
00:31:42.280 It's about, uh, my, you know, standing very strong against, um, you know, sexual orientation
00:31:49.040 and gender identity that is going into our schools. This, this resource that is being taught
00:31:54.140 to every kid. And I, and I, I said to them, I wrote them a very, um, heartfelt letter. I
00:32:00.320 said, you have been my party for my whole life. Are you not the party that will stand for the
00:32:05.600 children? I travel with a transgender man and speak with a transgender guy. I am not a transphobe
00:32:11.920 or a homophobe, but I do believe that you cannot indoctrinate kids with five transgender books.
00:32:18.920 Let me show you what they are. My princess boy, I am jazz, Jacob's new dress, all about transgender 0.86
00:32:26.600 children, 10,000 dresses in which this boy for the entire, um, for, for the book is misgendered
00:32:34.600 as a her. His parents are made to look like complete bigots and nasty people. And of course 0.98
00:32:40.700 there's a red, a crayon story. How many books on transgenderism does a elementary class need
00:32:51.200 across the province? How many books on transgenderism? How about let's talk about being polite and
00:32:57.580 having good, um, you know, good morals. Uh, that would be a book that would a conglomeration
00:33:03.440 of all those kinds of books, not bullying. That would be great, but this is what they're doing.
00:33:08.560 And I'll tell you what, Sheila, I will not be silent, uh, silent on this matter. I will not bow
00:33:15.400 to the ideology that is being put out in our nation. And I'm not afraid of being called names
00:33:20.800 and I'm not afraid of rejection by any party. I do not represent a party in my life. What I represent
00:33:27.080 is my values and my traditions that are given to me, uh, given full right by Canada. So I represent
00:33:35.240 every Canadian being able to live and to function according to their beliefs. Now, if you're, uh,
00:33:42.420 like, uh, Morgan Auger, uh, uh, the vice president of the NDP and you want to be a transsexual and you 0.96
00:33:48.260 want to live, uh, saying that you're a woman, I give all freedom for Morgan to live that way. But I also have 0.99
00:33:58.300 the right to live according to my beliefs. And I especially have the right to teach my children
00:34:03.720 those beliefs. And Morgan has the right to teach, uh, his children those beliefs. That is a right of
00:34:11.120 every Canadian, but we do not have the right, I don't believe, for state run schools to be telling
00:34:17.220 our kids that they can now, uh, go up to a board and become, you know, and switch genders. That I'm
00:34:23.200 standing against. So what I'll do in the future, I think that might've been your question, Sheila,
00:34:28.820 is, uh, I'm leaving all my options open. I believe that there is a lack of courage in this nation.
00:34:36.740 People are unwilling to speak, uh, against the LGBTQ who now rail against us. If we do not bow to their
00:34:44.680 ideology, they become terrorists. They, they call our workplaces. They get us fired. They call us those
00:34:50.940 horrible names you were talking about. And I don't think that's fair because I'm not a bully,
00:34:55.960 but I think that they are bullies. I am not, uh, into not being diversified and not accepting people
00:35:03.180 as they are, but I think that they're not accepting of me. And that's where this has crossed the line.
00:35:08.560 And that's where I'm going to make a stand. So right now I have some calls in. And one thing that's
00:35:14.480 interesting to me is I'm getting a lot of calls and people are beginning to ask me, what are you going to
00:35:19.560 do? I can tell you right now that, uh, I, I have some plans beginning to formulate and I'm ready
00:35:27.020 to stand and I'm ready to, to compel the nation to stand. We can't compel speech. We should never
00:35:34.240 do that, but we should compel each other to stand up for our beliefs. You know, Laura Lynn, uh, I'm so
00:35:39.760 sorry that the party disallowed your nomination, but I think you're like me and that you're still
00:35:45.200 cheering for these conservatives to find some guts, to find, uh, some ears to listen to the
00:35:51.560 grassroots. And I think you're like me in that even though they might not like it, I think it's my job
00:35:56.820 to drag them back right when everything else is dragging them to the left. Absolutely. And I think
00:36:03.180 that, um, if they see that their grassroots really wants to stand on an issue that they, uh, hopefully
00:36:10.460 will have the courage to do that. I will tell you what I believe is being missed and I want to help
00:36:15.100 the conservative party right now. Let me tell you what they're missing, Sheila. They are missing that
00:36:20.660 the grassroots moms and dads of this nation are beginning to freak out. You know why they're
00:36:26.640 freaking out? Because Jacob's new dress is being read to their kids in kindergarten, which tells their
00:36:32.140 little boy that they can wear a dress and become a girl. And, and when they're seeing all of this,
00:36:37.620 my princess boy, you know, where the dad is just celebrating that his boy is wearing a little
00:36:44.020 dress. I can tell you that the Sikhs, the Muslims, the Christians and the Jews, the fathers, they're
00:36:49.600 not my princess boy, daddy right here. And they're saying, we don't want our little boys and girls,
00:36:54.920 uh, told that. And as they are finding that out, they are very upset. Who is the party who will stand
00:37:03.460 for those parents to not have compelled indoctrination? Who is that party? And of course,
00:37:10.440 I've been on this bandwagon. I stand for everything else that conservatives stand for. I stand for
00:37:15.480 fiscal responsibility, um, you know, and having parental rights, which they talk about, but we
00:37:20.640 have been violated in this nation. I, I stand for, uh, free speech, you know, and, uh, bill C-16. I'd like
00:37:27.820 to see that, um, overturned because we are putting our women. We need to respect women in this nation
00:37:33.920 and, um, we shouldn't be having, uh, you know, men who identify as women being put into rape shelters,
00:37:42.220 for instance. And, um, I just feel that, uh, that it is time for us to all stand together. And
00:37:50.120 the conservative party, that's my party in my heart. There's no other party. There's nobody else.
00:37:57.860 It's them. It has to be. They've denied me to run in their party. And so I'm going to look at what I
00:38:06.600 have to do from here on out. Well, Laurelyn, I, I hope that you get back in touch with me when you
00:38:12.480 figure out a little bit more about your future, but boy, you know what? I love your fight. I'm so glad
00:38:17.780 parents have you on their side. And I want to thank you so much for coming on the show today.
00:38:24.640 Thank you, Sheila. And just to let your viewers know that we are going from, um, from province to
00:38:30.040 province, from town to town. We're talking about this stuff. We're asking them to be courageous and
00:38:36.100 not to be afraid. And I'm tired of seeing the fear in some of their eyes. Uh, I'll tell you, I will,
00:38:41.700 I will take the brunt of it. I, I will be called any name, all of you out there. You don't have to be
00:38:47.160 called the names or be targeted because you will be targeted. You don't have to do that right now,
00:38:51.400 but if you would come together and you would stand together, they can't, they can't kill us all.
00:38:56.500 You know, they can just try to pick off one of us at a time. Uh, but if we stand together arm in arm,
00:39:02.480 I think that we're going to be able to make some changes and it is time for change because this
00:39:06.680 cannot keep happening. Thank you, Laurelyn. Thank you, Sheila. More ahead up after the break.
00:39:17.160 Now, this is the part of the show where Ezra normally reads his hate mail. Now, I'm not going
00:39:29.220 to read hate mail, but I am going to read mail that I got that was critical of my opinions and
00:39:34.920 my reporting on supply management. After our coverage in Halifax, I received this email from
00:39:41.860 Emily. She's from New Brunswick. Emily wrote to me and said, have supported and subscribed to the
00:39:49.680 rebel for many years. I have encouraged many friends and contacts to support you and watch
00:39:55.920 your reporting. And I signed many of your petitions, including the one for you to be allowed into the
00:40:02.800 Halifax conservative party convention. I tried to find you in Halifax. I did not because I wanted to
00:40:09.120 meet you in person and tell you, I appreciate your work. I did not know about your hospitality room
00:40:15.060 until too late. I still support you at the moment. On our way home, I listened to your wrap up on my
00:40:23.340 iPad. I can hardly believe that you have stooped to CBC like reporting for all the good things that
00:40:30.020 happened at the convention. And you chose to present a one-sided tirade against many hardworking
00:40:37.300 farmers. And no, it is not a Quebec cartel. My son milks 40 herd of jerseys here in New Brunswick.
00:40:44.340 He is honest and hardworking and gets his product to market in a safe, timely fashion. I'm not going
00:40:50.500 to argue the pros and cons of supply management here. The system may not be perfect, but it is a
00:40:56.460 good system. It is good for the large farmer and equally as good for the small farmer. I would ask that
00:41:03.360 you do some fair reporting. You do not even try to show both sides. You just stooped to childish
00:41:10.340 name-calling. Well, Emily, hi. Let me speak directly to you. First off, I want to thank you for your
00:41:17.440 support in the past and hopefully going forward. And I wanted to thank you for taking the time to write
00:41:22.260 me so that at least I have the opportunity to tell you why I hold the opinions that I do.
00:41:27.980 Let me explain that I have examined supply management for many years. And I'm a farmer myself. So more
00:41:34.880 than anybody else in all of the media, I understand the pressures put on farmers. And just because I've
00:41:41.500 come to a different conclusion about supply management, well, that doesn't mean that I'm doing
00:41:47.000 CBC-style reporting. I reject that conclusion wholeheartedly. It is not CBC-style reporting to
00:41:54.060 say that the majority of milk producers in this country are in Quebec and Ontario. Milk.ca data
00:42:00.720 reflects those findings. Now, we both know there are many other farmers in this country who produce
00:42:07.380 highly perishable foodstuffs in a competitive international marketplace, competing with cheaper
00:42:13.860 American labor and their cheaper American input costs, coping with daily price fluctuations,
00:42:20.920 managing high transportation and storage logistics. And they do it without price protection for
00:42:27.320 themselves. And they produce a product that, in spite of all those other factors, consumers still
00:42:33.120 think is world-class and it's something that consumers want to buy. I myself am a price taker on the
00:42:39.840 international market. I'm not a price maker. I am pro-farmer. I'm the most pro-farmer journalist
00:42:46.300 in all of Canadian media. And my stories are often shaped by the six generations of my family
00:42:52.260 that live on the land that I still farm. And I've also been very poor. So I'm vehemently pro-consumer,
00:42:59.020 which is why I am anti-carbon tax, anti-tariff, anti-wheatboard, anti-central control, pro-free trade,
00:43:05.580 pro-oil and gas, pro-small business. And I firmly believe in the universal conservative principle
00:43:11.140 that competition makes everyone better and helps the poor. Like roughly 50% of the Conservative Party
00:43:18.720 of Canada's membership, I am anti-supply management. And I hold a very mainstream opinion within the
00:43:26.100 conservative movement on that. But more than anything, this, like any other issue, should not
00:43:31.600 be off-limits for discussion amongst the membership of the party. Nor should it be directed from outside
00:43:38.580 the membership by a very small but very powerful lobby group, as was revealed in those dairy lobby
00:43:44.940 briefing notes. If an environmentalist organization wielded that much power within the Liberal Party
00:43:51.780 of Canada, and we all somehow knew about it, our hair would be on fire over it. I believe in Canadian
00:43:59.380 farmers. And I think that Canadian farmers are the best farmers on the planet. Because of that,
00:44:05.500 I firmly believe that they can compete and succeed. I simply hold a different opinion than you.
00:44:11.960 And for now, although that's changing quickly, the conservative movement in Canada has been the one
00:44:17.960 movement that supported a diversity of opinion and the free and liberal exchange of ideas. If I wanted
00:44:24.680 to think the same as everyone else and report a party line verbatim, well, you know what, I'd be a liberal
00:44:30.400 and I'd work for the CBC. I've been a conservative activist my entire adult life. And I'm cheering for
00:44:37.260 Andrew Scheer, despite his petty grievances against me. I want him to be ecumenical towards the Bernier
00:44:43.360 folk and tell them that there's a place for them within the conservative party. The party needs the Bernier
00:44:49.440 folk to win. I'm not seeing that happen. And I am disappointed because I know that means at least
00:44:55.660 another four more years in the wilderness for conservative Canadians. Thanks, Emily, again,
00:45:02.760 for reaching out and giving me this opportunity to explain my side. Well, I want to thank everybody
00:45:08.880 for tuning in to an inadvertently all-female Ezra Levant show. And I want to thank everybody in Rebel
00:45:15.360 World Headquarters in Toronto for turning this made-in-Alberta production into a watchable
00:45:22.140 show. Ezra's back on Monday with an all-new show. And remember, don't let the government tell you
00:45:29.140 that you've had too much to think.
00:45:45.360 Thank you.
00:45:51.140 Thank you.
00:45:52.140 Thank you.