Rebel News Podcast - DAVID MENZIES ｜ Free Speech For Pastor Art; Human Rights Museum Goes Full COVID Karen

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you,

00:00:04.000 in which we look back at some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favourite rebels.

00:00:09.260 I'm your host, David Menzies.

00:00:11.860 Victory in the courtroom.

00:00:14.180 Finally, some justice for Pastor Artur Pawlowski and Chris Scott.

00:00:20.160 Sheila Gunn-Reed has all the delectable details. 0.99

00:00:24.200 And you know, there's this whiz-bang Human Rights Museum in Winnipeg,

00:00:28.000 but get this, folks, this museum is actually embracing a form of medical apartheid

00:00:34.760 for those who want to visit.

00:00:36.680 Yeah, that's right.

00:00:38.260 A Human Rights Museum is championing medical segregation?

00:00:43.740 Just will you see what Sid Fizzard had to uncover.

00:00:48.060 And finally, letters.

00:00:49.420 We get your letters.

00:00:50.380 We get your letters every minute of every day.

00:00:52.460 And you had plenty to say about a Grade 12 student in Bradford, Ontario,

00:00:57.140 who received a three-day suspension for displaying an allegedly offensive flag from his truck.

00:01:04.520 Gracious, what was it, you ask?

00:01:06.940 A flag displaying a swastika?

00:01:09.720 The KKK logo?

00:01:11.160 Um, no, it was a Canadian flag with a blue line that represents support for law enforcement.

00:01:17.760 I swear, I'm not making this up, folks.

00:01:20.780 Those are your rebels.

00:01:21.780 Now let's round them up.

00:01:32.820 At the museum, we talk about human rights.

00:01:35.640 We talk about the fact that we all have different perspectives and ideas on what that means.

00:01:39.760 But we want to come together and share one another's stories to learn about those different perspectives and ideas

00:01:48.300 in the hopes that we are going to gain an understanding and respect for one another's ideas.

00:01:55.220 And through dialogue, we can move forward into a better life together.

00:02:00.600 Why am I not allowed in here again?

00:02:01.900 I just would like to get to the fourth floor.

00:02:03.680 You're going to get to the public health order.

00:02:04.600 I want it.

00:02:05.760 Public health order for what?

00:02:07.080 This is the only museum in North America of human rights.

00:02:11.560 Right.

00:02:11.940 Okay, the regulation is that they'll be on the school of vaccines because that means there's a problem with it.

00:02:17.200 Yeah, please.

00:02:17.980 They shut it down.

00:02:19.300 Whatever.

00:02:20.100 They shut it down.

00:02:20.700 Let's just get off.

00:02:21.520 No, shut it down again.

00:02:22.820 In the 80s, sir.

00:02:23.800 The regulation is going for about two weeks.

00:02:26.040 They are at a fight to go about two weeks before.

00:02:28.780 Yeah.

00:02:29.000 There are so many people standing outside.

00:02:31.240 Yeah, should I get in?

00:02:32.760 Then why are you guys protecting this?

00:02:35.000 It's a situation of man.

00:02:37.080 You guys should be walking all, every one of these guys in by hand into this building, though.

00:02:43.820 Before, before, this building is a very huge significance to exactly why we're here.

00:02:49.020 Wow, is this not irony to the power of infinity?

00:02:57.260 The Canadian Human Rights Museum in Winnipeg is all about championing equity and equality.

00:03:03.300 Well, on paper, at least, for here we are in 2021, and this museum is now embracing apartheid. 0.59

00:03:12.440 Oh, not apartheid classic, mind you.

00:03:15.520 That odious policy, which was all about racial segregation in South Africa of yesterdecade.

00:03:22.000 Rather, I speak of medical apartheid in Canada today, which is to say, if you get the COVID-19 jabs, you are a first-class citizen.

00:03:32.860 And if you do not, well, kindly make your way to the back of the bus.

00:03:36.820 Actually, what am I saying? 1.00

00:03:38.400 The policy is, really, get off the damn bus. 0.98

00:03:42.620 And joining me now for more on a human rights museum that, well, is kind of trampling over human rights of the unvaccinated, is our ace cameraman, Sidney Fizzard. 0.99

00:03:54.100 Hey, how you doing there, Sidney?

00:03:56.040 Hey there, doing very well.

00:03:57.240 It's a pleasure to be joining you.

00:03:58.140 I'm so happy to have you on the Rebel Roundup.

00:04:01.280 Well, I've got to say, that building you visited, it doesn't look like a human rights museum to me, Sid.

00:04:06.680 It kind of looks like a security guard museum.

00:04:10.640 What's the deal with all the security at this place?

00:04:14.500 Well, it seems pretty unbelievable, but evidently with the vaccine mandates that have come into play,

00:04:20.920 they have hired security as a means of enforcing the vaccination checks at the door,

00:04:25.300 which shows you just how welcoming this new practice is.

00:04:28.700 You know, and Sid, I'm trying to understand the ostensible policy reason here.

00:04:33.660 There are high double vaccination rates in Canada.

00:04:37.460 We know that, and I assume it applies to Manitoba and Winnipeg.

00:04:41.260 And for those who are not vaxxed, well, I mean, maybe there is a, you know, some reasonable accommodation.

00:04:49.020 Remember that, Chestnut, that they can wear masks, I guess, into the building,

00:04:55.100 although you'll have many people saying that masks are worse than useless.

00:04:58.280 But if people, if the staff and most of the attendees are vaccinated, then what's the problem?

00:05:06.720 Well, I would think there shouldn't be one.

00:05:08.880 But not only that, and this is a bit of a teaser, because I did email them and I actually got a response.

00:05:13.580 And one of the questions I asked them was, well, have you guys actually done any independent scientific investigation?

00:05:19.720 You know, hired the experts and found out what would be a policy that would keep people at their most safest.

00:05:25.460 They haven't done any of that research.

00:05:26.780 So what they've done is what I think most people have done, and that's just follow orders.

00:05:32.000 They don't actually know if this is for your health.

00:05:33.700 They don't actually know if it does make you safer.

00:05:35.800 Yeah, and how ominous is that?

00:05:37.660 I'm just following orders, I think, of 1930s Germany whenever I hear that phrase.

00:05:43.100 But, Sid, here's the thing.

00:05:44.300 I can go to a shopping mall in the GTA, and right now it's the Christmas shopping season,

00:05:51.420 and there are thousands of people in that mall getting up and close to one another, not socially distancing, etc.

00:06:00.760 If that's an indoor setting for unvaccinated people, which is okay, then why is a museum not okay? 0.99

00:06:09.840 Yeah, no, it's unbelievable.

00:06:11.680 And even in that video, I detailed how it wasn't just the museum, but everywhere that I was going in Manitoba,

00:06:16.920 the hotels, even the Forks, which is just another market, even just to sit down and eat food when you're outside more than six feet away from anybody,

00:06:26.640 they're still implementing this vaccine passport.

00:06:28.620 And it's more just to make a statement of uniformity with what's being said from our higher-ups.

00:06:35.420 But there is, I mean, in my opinion, there is no science to it.

00:06:39.160 No, the science is very, shall we say, fluid.

00:06:44.280 And, you know, there was that ominous shot later on in your video.

00:06:48.600 It was Premier Pallister saying that there's an 11th commandment now, thou shalt get vaccinated.

00:06:55.560 Who the hell is he to say that and basically invoke a religious sentiment in telling the people of Manitoba what to do?

00:07:06.560 I thought that was outrageous, Sid. 0.82

00:07:09.160 No, it absolutely was.

00:07:11.560 It was completely outrageous.

00:07:13.240 And not only that, but it's unfortunate that these kind of trends have continued on.

00:07:18.900 Even though he resigned, he had spied, I believe, on one of his candidates.

00:07:25.540 That's what Pastor Tobias had told me.

00:07:27.920 And his ratings all around were just tanking for a multitude of reasons.

00:07:32.300 So it goes to show where that kind of policy will lead you.

00:07:35.380 But it is unfortunate that a lot of these policies have remained in place.

00:07:41.380 Yeah.

00:07:41.600 And, you know, Sid, again, I'm trying to figure out what the end goal here is.

00:07:46.440 I mean, as I said in the intro, the irony is so perverse and so off the charts.

00:07:51.080 I've never been to the Canadian Human Rights Museum, but I would imagine there's all kinds of exhibits about segregation, about maybe the Jim Crow laws in the South, in the U.S. of yester decade.

00:08:07.320 Certainly, certainly about apartheid.

00:08:10.900 And, I mean, I know a little about apartheid.

00:08:12.560 I've been to South Africa.

00:08:13.660 My wife is a South African.

00:08:15.740 She once made the observation when all these vax passports were kicking in. 0.74

00:08:20.240 She feels like she's back in South Africa circa 1976.

00:08:23.760 But instead of racial segregation, it's medical segregation.

00:08:30.880 I don't think that's right either.

00:08:32.940 And, I mean, you'd think if there was one place, one edifice in Canada that would welcome everybody, regardless of race, color, creed, religion, and vaccination status, it would be the Canadian Human Rights Museum.

00:08:49.740 But that's not the case.

00:08:51.940 No, absolutely.

00:08:53.220 And, unfortunately, as you know, if you've seen the video, I wasn't allowed to actually see these exhibits either.

00:08:58.220 But there was a little bit of information on their website, some of the stories, and they have, like, a bit of an educational platform online, and they tell you to do the virtual tour.

00:09:06.240 But I just want to read a quick little thing from their website in their stories.

00:09:11.420 It's a story called Us Versus Them, The Process of Othering.

00:09:16.080 And it says, people are different.

00:09:18.000 We can use our differences as an opportunity to share and learn.

00:09:21.960 Or we can use our differences as an excuse to build walls between us.

00:09:25.540 When we highlight differences between groups of people to increase suspicion of them, to insult them, or to exclude them, we are going down a path known as othering.

00:09:34.040 So, it just goes to show you how blind they are to what they're doing.

00:09:38.100 You know, it's outrageous.

00:09:40.540 And, by the way, Sid, I'm done with virtual this and virtual that.

00:09:44.260 I want to go and do things hands-on.

00:09:46.340 I want to party like it's 2019.

00:09:49.120 But, you know what, maybe here's a suggestion for the Canadian Human Rights Museum.

00:09:52.580 Why don't we have, oh, I don't know, say one day a week, Wednesday, where it's the unvaccinated only. 0.79

00:09:58.620 The staff there can wear hazmat suits because, obviously, this is a congregation of typhoid Marys and just have them come in. 1.00

00:10:06.380 I wonder how they would respond to that.

00:10:07.920 But one last question, Sid, what I find particularly bothersome about this, I gave you the example of shopping malls that are open to the unvaccinated. 0.95

00:10:16.560 It's no problem.

00:10:17.840 Those are, while the public's allowed in, those are private property edifices.

00:10:22.860 They're owned by corporations.

00:10:24.220 The Canadian Human Rights Museum, I am positive, has dined out on taxpayer pork to get that edifice up there.

00:10:34.180 So what I'm saying is that you and I and anyone else who is unvaxxed but a taxpayer, we have skin in the game.

00:10:42.620 And I think based on that, we should not be restricted entry into this museum.

00:10:49.360 No, absolutely.

00:10:49.940 And Troy, the fellow I interviewed, the person behind the camera made that comment as well.

00:10:56.920 And I think it's exactly on the money.

00:10:58.640 And to your point, what you're saying about how maybe they should have one day a week where the unvaccinated swine are allowed in, I actually asked the security guard.

00:11:06.260 I was like, hey, you know, is there like a day where I can come or anything like that?

00:11:09.580 But I'm not.

00:11:10.700 But it makes sense because that would kind of showcase the fact that they are segregating people.

00:11:17.180 But that also goes to show that what we have now is worse than segregation.

00:11:21.060 A hundred percent.

00:11:22.220 I never thought I'd see it in this country.

00:11:24.220 I never thought I would see, as my wife said, South Africa of yesterdecade being implemented here, not based on racial segregation, but medical segregation.

00:11:34.400 Guess what?

00:11:35.140 They're both wrong.

00:11:36.480 They're both egregious.

00:11:37.740 They're both odious.

00:11:39.080 Sid, it was a great report.

00:11:40.660 I know you have a second part coming up.

00:11:42.560 Can't wait to see that.

00:11:44.040 So thank you so much for that wonderful report, my friend.

00:11:47.340 Absolutely.

00:11:47.920 And it's a pleasure to be joining you.

00:11:49.140 You got it.

00:11:50.440 And that was Sidney Fizzard in Calgary.

00:11:53.760 Keep it here, folks.

00:11:54.960 More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:11:57.160 The Court of Appeals has sided with free speech and free expression and our ability to travel around our own country and tell others what our governments are doing to us.

00:12:18.800 Justice Strekow ruled just moments ago as I'm filming this that she's going to stay or set aside the sanctions levied on small town business owner Chris Scott of the Whistle Stop Cafe and Pastor Art Poloski and his brother David.

00:12:35.140 All three men were subject to secret court orders sought against them by Alberta Health Services to the exclusion of their very well-known lawyers.

00:12:47.540 These court orders prevented illegal public gatherings.

00:12:50.380 In the case of the Poloskis, the illegal public gathering was their church services. 0.73

00:12:57.220 And in the case of Chris Scott, it was a protest of the government's seizure of his business for refusing to adhere to the COVID closure of it.

00:13:08.720 All three men were arrested and held for, in Chris Scott's case, nearly three days.

00:13:14.680 And this happened in high-profile takedowns like they were El Chapo.

00:13:18.520 Now, for breaking those secret court orders, they were given probation, serious fines, and enormous costs.

00:13:25.900 But besides the fines and costs, there was a compelled speech order and a travel ban to prevent the men from traveling to tell their stories to other people in other places.

00:13:39.720 That travel ban was to prevent the embarrassment of the government.

00:13:43.460 This is insane.

00:13:44.380 Now, the compelled speech order was handed down by Justice Adam Jermaine.

00:13:49.340 And as it came out in court today, Alberta Health Services never sought compelled speech as a penalty for the men, nor did they seek the travel ban.

00:14:00.200 Alberta Health Services, as out of control as they are, were just not as bad as Adam Jermaine.

00:14:04.680 They didn't want that compelled speech order in there, and they didn't want the travel bans.

00:14:09.760 However, they were in court today fighting to keep the compelled speech order and the travel bans, so that should tell you a little something about Alberta Health Services.

00:14:19.880 Now, I'll give you a flavor of just what this Soviet-style compelled speech order self-denunciation thing sounds like.

00:14:28.580 Before the men speak, including at protests or, in the case of the Poloskis, at their own church,

00:14:35.440 they had to give the government lockdown salesman version of the facts as the judge sees them, prepared by Justice Adam Jermaine in advance.

00:14:43.940 It was a script. Look at this.

00:14:45.800 I'm also aware that the views I'm expressing to you on this occasion may not be the views held by the majority of medical experts in Alberta.

00:14:53.380 While I may disagree with them, I am obliged to inform you that the majority of medical experts favor social distancing, mask wearing,

00:15:00.480 and avoiding large crowds to reduce the spread of COVID-19.

00:15:03.800 Most medical experts also support participation in a vaccination program,

00:15:08.860 unless for a valid religious or medical reason you cannot be vaccinated.

00:15:12.240 Vaccinations have been shown statistically to save lives and reduce the severity of COVID-19 symptoms.

00:15:19.740 Now, the judge who made that ruling, the aforementioned out-of-control judge, Justice Adam Jermaine,

00:15:25.000 well, I think he's one of the craziest judges in the entire country,

00:15:29.040 and I'm a regular court reporter, so I know what I'm talking about here.

00:15:34.300 What he really wanted to do was use the force of his position as a judge

00:15:38.180 to put his own words and thoughts into the Poloskis and Chris Scott.

00:15:42.300 It's obscene to abuse his position that way, and Justice Adam Jermaine should be held accountable for it.

00:15:47.640 Now, one of those ways of holding the judge to account is by sending an email to the Canadian Judicial Council

00:15:54.620 and signing our petition, and you can do both of those things at firethejudge.com.

00:16:00.420 Now, Rebel News, we have partnered with the Democracy Fund and all of you at home to help overturn these rulings,

00:16:08.920 to appeal these crazy sanctions that are so out of line with what the men really did,

00:16:13.640 which at the end of the day was just exercise their rights of free expression and free association.

00:16:18.240 But in the meantime, while we waited for the appeal to go through,

00:16:23.420 we wanted to make sure that we were doing everything we could to make sure that Chris Scott and the Poloski brothers

00:16:30.520 were free to speak what was on their minds and what was on their hearts about the government.

00:16:37.260 We wanted them to be free to be critical of the things that the government was doing to them.

00:16:41.360 We wanted them to be able to criticize government policy without having to give, like I said,

00:16:47.320 the lockdown vaccine salesperson version of events and to ultimately give the opinions of Justice Adam Jermaine before their own.

00:16:55.740 So this morning, we were all in the Alberta Court of Appeal in front of Justice Strekev,

00:17:01.820 and she ruled in favour of freedom. This seems so rare these days.

00:17:06.760 She stated, winning, how refreshing to come across a judge that actually likes such concepts as,

00:17:14.840 well, you know, freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of assembly,

00:17:20.920 and actually loathes such bizarre judicial orders as compelled speech and travel bans.

00:17:29.440 And with more on this major, major win is our chief reporter, Sheila Gunn-Reed.

00:17:35.720 Hey, how you doing there, Sheila?

00:17:37.840 I'm great, David. Thanks for having me on the show.

00:17:40.040 It is always a pleasure. Sheila, I got to tell you, as the old saying goes,

00:17:44.140 it's always darkest before the dawn, isn't it?

00:17:47.540 And Justice Jermaine's insane ruling against Pastor Poloski was very dark indeed,

00:17:54.780 but it looks like sanity and justice has prevailed here, wouldn't you say?

00:18:00.440 Yeah, it's rare. You know, we've seen the courts lately make a lot of outlandish rulings,

00:18:05.700 and we've also seen prosecutors not want to take cases as far as they should because they don't

00:18:11.280 want to get in front of a judge, and the judge tell them, you're acting crazy, let's throw this

00:18:16.060 ticket out. So a lot of our Fight the Fines tickets, they're withdrawn once we lawyer up and

00:18:21.000 basically tell the Crown, we're going to take this thing as far as it goes, and that spooks the Crown

00:18:24.920 and they withdraw the tickets. But this case with Pastor Art and Chris Scott, the prosecutors for

00:18:34.500 AHS really took it as far as they could possibly take it. And then the judge picked up the ball,

00:18:40.440 Justice Jermaine, and ran it in. The things that were in the court order, or at least the things

00:18:48.020 that were in the sanctions order for Pastor Art and Chris Scott, we found out in this most recent

00:18:55.280 decision that they were not things that AHS were even asking for. So AHS, Alberta Health Services,

00:19:02.460 they wanted for sanctions for contempt of a court order, the secretly obtained court order that

00:19:08.920 limited their right to speak their mind and protest. Alberta Health Services wanted costs,

00:19:16.980 they wanted fines, and they wanted Chris Scott and Pastor Art to abide by public health orders.

00:19:23.900 That was it. Justice Adam Jermaine is the guy who decided, okay, let's do that, but let's also impose

00:19:31.660 my own opinions on these men, which is really what it came down to, and that's what the compelled speech

00:19:37.600 order was. It wasn't even, like I had been saying all along, these are the government vaccine salesmen

00:19:45.840 talking points. It was further than that. It really was Justice Adam Jermaine's opinions about lockdowns

00:19:52.560 and vaccines that he forced into the mouths of these men before they could speak their minds,

00:19:58.520 and he was the guy who banned their travel as though they were sex offenders instead of just a pastor and

00:20:05.160 an entrepreneur who didn't go broke fast enough for the government. And those were things that he read

00:20:14.380 into the decision. Nobody was asking for them. He just added it in. And luckily, sanity prevailed when

00:20:21.420 Court of Appeal Justice Streka said, keeping these things in there while these men appeal their sanctions

00:20:29.760 would cause irreparable harm to them. And so that's why those conditions were stayed.

00:20:36.340 You know, it's absolutely amazing, Sheila. I always thought on the free speech, the free expression

00:20:42.080 file, the worst thing you can possibly do is censorship, you know, extract and forbid certain

00:20:49.000 words. But I think, Sheila, that compelled speech is even worse. You know, it reminds me, I've given the

00:20:56.560 times we live in, I've reread 1984 and Animal Farm, the Orwellian classics. And this kind of reminds me of

00:21:04.860 in Animal Farm, the sheep keep chanting, four legs bad, sorry, four legs good, two legs bad,

00:21:12.240 when the farmer has been taken care of, has been exiled, and the pigs are running the joint.

00:21:19.240 The pigs end up walking on two legs as they more and more resemble the humans, and the sheep change it

00:21:24.860 to four legs good, two legs better. And basically, that's the kind of eerie compelled speech that comes

00:21:34.520 to mind. Because clearly, getting Pastor Art Pawlowski to do the government narrative,

00:21:40.640 he totally doesn't believe in it. He thinks it's completely false and even malicious. And I got to

00:21:47.380 tell you, Sheila, I just wonder, well, actually, I'm making a bet right now, Sheila, Pastor Art Pawlowski

00:21:53.900 has surely violated the compelled speech guidelines. Has he been charged with contempt of court?

00:22:00.800 He for sure violates them. And I don't think he cares. And because he is a man of conscience,

00:22:08.660 whether you disagree with him or not, whether you think he's a kook, or he's, you know, the Polish 0.76

00:22:14.240 lion of Calgary, we all know that Pastor Art speaks what's on his heart. And he does it sincerely. And

00:22:21.820 like you, David, I think that compelled speech is worse than censorship. And there are a few things

00:22:28.240 worse than censorship. Because you're forcing a man to violate his conscience, to say things that he

00:22:33.760 does not believe. And for someone like Art, who, for him, a man of great Christian faith,

00:22:42.220 for him to violate his conscience, he's putting his own soul in jeopardy. And the court was doing that to

00:22:48.740 him. And so that's why I see it as not just an attack on conscience, but also on Christianity 0.77

00:22:54.420 directly, when you're forcing a Christian man to violate his conscience. For Christians, we know

00:22:59.880 what that means. And, you know, that was argued really by Chris Scott's lawyers, in fact, is in the

00:23:08.440 same case, was even the most odious regimes in the world, North Korea, China, to some extent, Russia, 0.89

00:23:18.060 excuse me, some of the more odious places of the Middle East. Even they don't seek to compel speech, 1.00

00:23:25.120 they just go straight to censorship. This was a rarity not only in the Western world, but in the entire

00:23:32.220 world. And it is to our great shame that it came from Alberta.

00:23:35.680 Isn't it amazing? And, you know, Sheila, I think what Justice Germain did, it was downright an abuse of

00:23:43.960 judicial authority. And certainly we got more than 27,000 signatures. I delivered them personally

00:23:50.280 on November 10th in Ottawa to the governing body that is the overseer of judges. I don't know if

00:23:58.700 they're going to act on it or if that petition of names went right into the round file. But I think

00:24:06.340 this was abusive. He obviously has personal opinions about the vaccines and the lockdowns and

00:24:13.780 COVID. And he was damn well sure he was going to use Pastor Pawlowski as a puppet to echo his

00:24:22.340 personal opinions. Like you said, when you can outdo a regime like North Korea when it comes to free 0.58

00:24:28.680 speech, that is so dark, it's downright sinister. Well, yeah. And ultimately, the compelled speech

00:24:38.840 acted as censorship because instead of saying Justice Adam Germain's opinions, you would just

00:24:45.880 opt not to say anything at all, right? You would never speak your own opinion if it meant that you

00:24:51.420 had to say Justice Adam Germain's opinion first. So it was also a tool of censorship. But it really was,

00:24:57.820 as you say, an abuse of power. Justice Adam Germain's opinions about art, about Christianity,

00:25:05.040 even about Fox News for some reason, seeped into his judgment against Pastor Art and Chris Scott.

00:25:13.920 That's what the travel restriction was about. He didn't want Chris Scott and Pastor Art going to

00:25:19.120 the United States or anywhere else in the world, telling the world what was happening in Alberta,

00:25:27.460 telling these shocked and mortified Americans what was happening to the churches and small

00:25:34.900 business owners here in Alberta. He was protecting himself from embarrassment because he knew he was

00:25:41.700 going to impose this really awful compelled speech order on them. And then he didn't want them to go

00:25:47.720 somewhere and talk about how bad it was. So he put a travel ban on them too. Even Omar Cotter didn't

00:25:54.000 have a travel ban, by the way. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Omar Cotter. And of course, we gave our homegrown

00:25:59.340 Al-Qaeda terrorist a $10.5 million settlement because to go through the courts there, Sheila,

00:26:06.420 it would probably cost more, according to the Justin Trudeau Liberals. So suddenly the Justin

00:26:11.120 Trudeau Liberals became fiscal conservatives on the Omar Cotter file. But I want to tell you something.

00:26:16.880 Speaking of money, this did not come without cost, did it? I mean, we're talking about six figures

00:26:22.040 for such a challenge that we crowdfunded. And I want to ask you this, Sheila, where in blue hell

00:26:28.840 is the Canadian Civil Liberties Association? You would think if any entity in Canada had skin in

00:26:36.800 the game where they come to censorship and compelled speech and somebody's rights being truncated like

00:26:44.080 this, it would be the civil liberties people. Where in blue hell is the media? Because they have skin in 0.99

00:26:50.180 this too. Can you imagine a judge down the road telling a columnist that, you know what, next time

00:26:55.700 you do a column on this, you've got to save 300 words for the government's official viewpoint. And if he

00:27:02.900 can say it to Pastor Art, he can say it to a journalist or a columnist. Sheila, where are they?

00:27:08.920 Oh, the Civil Liberties Organization spent most of the pandemic advocating to get actual criminals

00:27:15.120 out of jail because of the threat of the coronavirus while being completely silent while pastors and

00:27:21.840 small business owners were stuffed in jail for violating anti-free speech court orders secretly

00:27:27.680 obtained ex parte without the knowledge of these men's lawyers. There's a whole host of rights

00:27:32.780 violations happening there. And yet the Civil Liberties Organization's completely absent from the

00:27:39.840 field. It was just us. And unlike the Civil Liberties Organizations, we don't have a values test before we

00:27:47.900 help people. I meet people on the Fight the Fines file all day long who are like, I wasn't sure about you

00:27:54.680 guys at Rebel News. Some of them are even lefties. But they're anti-lockdown. They got a ticket for just trying

00:28:01.560 to live their life. And we are more than happy to help them. It's the same thing with these Civil Liberties

00:28:07.660 Organizations. They say they care about free speech. But it's not free speech if you only care about it

00:28:14.040 for the people that you disagree with. You're for like-minded speech. You're not for free speech. I

00:28:19.460 think everybody has a right to speak their mind, what's on their heart. And I have a right to disagree

00:28:24.360 with it. But there's no room in there for the courts to get involved. And yet the Civil Liberties

00:28:29.240 Organizations, they're happy to take your money. They're happy to hold expensive galas to congratulate

00:28:34.760 themselves on all the work they didn't do that year. But they don't actually do anything

00:28:39.360 to help people on the ground. And that's why the Democracy Fund, I think, is Canada's largest access

00:28:46.000 to justice initiative. Because we're helping people who would never be able to do these things.

00:28:52.820 No, it is now the Democracy Fund that is doing the heavy lifting with Civil Liberties. You know,

00:28:57.920 Sheila, I think back, going back more than a year ago, and there was a statement released,

00:29:03.200 a media release by the Canadian Civil Liberties Association. And I'm paraphrasing now.

00:29:08.800 But it was along the lines of, you know, during this pandemic, we're going to watch what government's

00:29:14.920 doing in terms of it eclipsing citizens' rights. And if they cross a line, we're going to

00:29:21.760 issue a stern press release. I didn't even see that much. Oh, really?

00:29:28.360 I didn't. What press release? I didn't even see them get that far. They said they're going to watch.

00:29:32.440 And then when the Civil Liberties were being violated, they just kept watching. I never saw

00:29:36.380 a letter to the Alberta government when protesters were arrested. I never saw a letter when Grace

00:29:42.200 Life Church was fenced off for three months while Pastor James Coates was in jail for five weeks.

00:29:51.800 I never saw any of that. I never saw any of that when Tim Stevens was arrested in front of his kids.

00:29:57.000 I never saw them write a letter when Phil Hutchins was taken to jail for over a week for not canceling

00:30:05.260 singing in his church. I never heard anything from any of these people. They just take your money

00:30:10.240 and do nothing.

00:30:11.640 They're obviously still observing. And Sheila, whenever you get a chance to question an Albertan

00:30:17.000 journalist about the original Justice Germain decision, I would like to know what their opinion

00:30:23.380 is. Because I feel that they actually like the decision. Even members of a so-called free press

00:30:32.080 are on the censorship and compelled speech bandwagon. It's shocking. We're running out of time. One last

00:30:38.920 question. Where do these cases go from here, Sheila?

00:30:43.220 So we're still headed towards appeals on the sanctions. And the best way to support Pastor

00:30:52.680 Art, because as you point out, civil liberties organizations, they don't care. And there's no

00:30:58.040 way that Chris Scott and Pastor Art, who compulsively feeds the homeless every week, there's no way

00:31:04.660 that they could afford these legal challenges. And really, Sarah Miller and Chad Williamson,

00:31:10.660 they're a couple of the best lawyers in the province, let alone the entire country.

00:31:16.400 And they need all the help because they're up against the deep pockets of the government.

00:31:20.340 The government has all of your money to crush small business owners and pastors. So if people

00:31:24.740 want to donate, there's two different ways. You can donate directly to Pastor Art's legal fund

00:31:30.800 at saveartur.com, A-R-T-U-R, that's the Polish spelling.com. Or you can go to fightthefines.com.

00:31:38.520 That's the fund that's supporting Chris Scott in his legal challenge. And all those

00:31:43.880 donations qualify for a charitable tax receipt through the registered Canadian charity. The

00:31:49.420 Democracy Fund, they don't go directly to Art. They don't go to Chris. They don't go to us. And

00:31:53.240 they don't even go to the lawyers. It goes to the Democracy Fund, who disperses it back when we get

00:31:58.360 those legal bills.

00:32:00.140 Fantastic. A superb report as usual, Sheila. We will look forward to your follow-up reports because

00:32:05.440 this story is not over yet. Thank you so much.

00:32:09.580 You've got it, David. Have a great weekend.

00:32:11.380 You too, my friend. And that was Sheila Gunn-Reed, chief reporter for Rebel News somewhere in the

00:32:17.640 hinterland of Northern Alberta. Keep it here, folks. More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:32:23.320 If I fly this flag again, I'm suspended once again and expelled.

00:32:38.600 School boards and schools are supposed to educate our children, not condemn them from showing what

00:32:47.080 they believe in and support. This is all about Carson supporting his family, the women and men

00:32:53.580 in our community and in our country that have kept us all safe. And now Carson is being, his education

00:33:01.640 now is being taken away from him for three days because he is supporting his family. And that's

00:33:07.280 just not right.

00:33:07.920 The ostensible policy reason of the suspension is that this flag is not inclusive enough. What do

00:33:14.980 they mean by that?

00:33:17.420 I'm not exactly sure what they mean. They call it divisive and polarizing. And we disagree. The flag

00:33:25.740 is about inclusiveness and diversity. Police services nowadays are all diverse. You can look at the men

00:33:33.020 and women. They're all of different ethnic cultures and backgrounds. And we don't understand why they've 1.00

00:33:40.120 taken this stance.

00:33:41.080 Yeah, indeed. I would argue even that police services are looking for more diversity. They're

00:33:47.160 especially favoring those candidates. So the idea that this is not inclusive, I mean, I look at, I'm trying

00:33:54.480 to get an understanding and my question wasn't answered by the principal. Give me a list of flags, emblems,

00:34:01.200 symbols, logos that are under the ban. And he couldn't. And, you know, we spoke the other day

00:34:06.740 too, that this is a flag that during June Pride Month, they would fly the LGBT flag. And you could

00:34:13.620 almost make an argument that would be non-inclusive to heterosexual people. So I'm just trying to find

00:34:20.340 out what the policy is and what it applies to.

00:34:24.080 Yes, I believe that they don't have a policy. They do allow the pride flag in the school,

00:34:33.620 or symbols. We want Carson to be able to fly his flag. We want his flag to be inclusive

00:34:39.980 to all other flags. We support all other flags. And we support the pride flag. Through my sister,

00:34:47.620 we support the Indigenous. My sister-in-law is Indigenous. My sister is a gay police officer.

00:34:54.220 It's, we support all flags and everybody has the right, we believe, to express their, their beliefs.

00:35:02.080 Yeah, the principal and the superintendent can't communicate their positions because, well,

00:35:08.620 there is no flag policy, folks. These wimps received one complaint from a teacher visiting 0.99

00:35:15.460 from another school. And instead of telling her to, oh, I don't know, seek out psychiatric counseling,

00:35:23.100 they capitulated to her insane demands. Baffling and brutal. In any event, you had plenty to say

00:35:31.500 regarding this surreal story of censorship. Thomas Rumsch writes,

00:35:37.640 the school has no right to unilaterally decide what is an appropriate symbol and what is not.

00:35:43.780 This is outright unconstitutional and those school officials should be fired.

00:35:51.060 Well, apparently they think they do have that right, my friend. And so much for zero tolerance

00:35:57.820 for bullying, eh? As for firing these educrats, good luck with that. Having a public education job

00:36:05.580 is practically the employment version of cash for life. Unless, of course, you're unvaccinated. 0.82

00:36:11.780 The Social Arts Club writes, soon, student suspended from school for declaring he is heterosexual.

00:36:21.300 Student suspended for saying he's Canadian. Student suspended for saying he wants to be a police

00:36:27.560 officer, et cetera, et cetera. Madness. Yes, indeed, my friend. It is madness. And if your predictions

00:36:35.020 come true in the years ahead, I'd be shocked. But you know what? I wouldn't be surprised.

00:36:42.080 Nero Angero DMC writes, if the flag is the issue, then get rid of rainbow flags, especially 0.87

00:36:49.420 from government buildings. You know, you raise an interesting point there, Nero. Mrs. Young told me

00:36:56.120 that the reason the blue line flag was under the ban was because it wasn't inclusive, which is nuts

00:37:03.500 because the police forces I come across these days feature male and female officers of every race and

00:37:10.080 religion and sexual orientation. Yet Bradford High does fly the LGBTQQ, et cetera, flag every June.

00:37:19.300 But when you think about it, isn't that flag kind of non-inclusive? I mean, it leaves out the

00:37:25.800 heterosexual demographic, you know, about 98 percent of the population.

00:37:32.940 Red Hammer writes, what if he painted the blue line on his truck? Would they try and ban his truck

00:37:39.920 from school? Hey, Carson, are you listening? Maybe Red Hammer has come up with a loophole for you in terms

00:37:46.420 of showing support for law enforcement. If you're challenged on it, say it's not a blue line, it's

00:37:52.720 merely a pinstripe. Problem solved. Sandra DeSalle writes, so the principal has the power to suspend

00:38:01.520 but not respond. Wow, what a coward. Carson has more guts and integrity than that coward. Oh, I can't 0.99

00:38:10.040 argue with that point, Susan. Suddenly, Principal Brooks isn't such a tough guy when he's not dealing

00:38:16.400 with a 17-year-old, eh? Sad. And Sarmay Paita writes, would be interesting to see what the school

00:38:25.860 would do if he ran around with a Chinese flag. Oh, my guess? They'd give Carson a diversity award or 0.69

00:38:34.640 something. What a joke. Well, that wraps up another edition of Rebel Roundup. Thanks so much for tuning in.

00:38:41.120 Have a great weekend. And never forget, folks, without risk, there can be no glory. Good night.

00:39:11.120 Have a great weekend.

Rebel News Podcast - December 04, 2021

DAVID MENZIES ｜ Free Speech For Pastor Art; Human Rights Museum Goes Full COVID Karen

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