Rebel News Podcast - May 21, 2021


Deplatforming, Bohemian Grove & Joe Rogan： The Alex Jones Episode


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40 minutes

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8,075

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590

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6

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12

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In this episode of the Rebel Media Podcast, Alex Jones sits down with host Alex Blumberg to talk about how he got his start as a journalist and how he infiltrated the Bohemian Grove. Alex also talks about how the left is trying to silence him and why they should be scared of him.

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00:00:00.640 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.
00:00:12.740 A man who needs almost no introduction. 0.99
00:00:15.000 You've seen him on Joe Rogan, Logan Paul, and with comedian Andrew Schultz.
00:00:19.120 Most of all, you can watch him and listen on Infowars.com and Band.video.
00:00:23.500 He is Alex Jones. Thank you for joining me, Alex. How are you today?
00:00:26.580 Hey, great to be here. I'm really a big fan and admire the work you guys do.
00:00:31.360 It's really journalism, and you guys have fun at the same time, so that's amazing.
00:00:35.000 I appreciate it. I'm a big fan of yours as well.
00:00:37.000 The first time, I'm thinking back, the first time I saw you, it must have been the Bohemian Grove stuff.
00:00:41.640 And what I wanted to ask you was, what do people tell you is the first time they were introduced to you,
00:00:46.520 the first time they were exposed to your broadcast or any of your videos?
00:00:51.580 I think one of the most common is probably Bohemian Grove.
00:00:54.680 That'll be 21 years ago, this July 15th, coming up in a few months, I guess in about three months,
00:01:00.960 when I infiltrated the Bohemian Grove.
00:01:03.300 I didn't even believe they were going to be doing a ritual.
00:01:06.240 I had been paid by World of Wonder Channel 4 in the U.K. to sneak in.
00:01:11.480 I wasn't just doing it for the money, but they had the passcodes.
00:01:14.740 They had a map.
00:01:15.540 They said for liability, they couldn't go in.
00:01:18.840 And so they wanted me to go in because I had snuck in and exposed some other corrupt things that had gone on with city government.
00:01:26.520 I'd confronted the KKK.
00:01:28.180 I had snuck into some military bases and shown gun confiscation drills going on.
00:01:33.740 So they thought, okay, this is the guy to sneak in and do this.
00:01:36.280 And so with the grace of God, I snuck in and got out.
00:01:38.220 But I didn't know until later, because that was almost pre-internet back then.
00:01:42.560 There was very little online about Bohemian Grove.
00:01:45.220 But later, once a lot of archives got put on the web in just a couple years, by 2002 or so,
00:01:51.820 most of the internet had then put all the old newspaper articles up and old TV pieces up.
00:01:56.460 And it was CBS News and ABC News and CNN and the Wall Street Journal and People Magazine,
00:02:02.660 folks being arrested over and over again and prosecuted for sneaking into the Bohemian Grove.
00:02:07.920 So I didn't know when I snuck in that more than 20 people had been arrested and prosecuted
00:02:12.800 who tried to get in but never got out.
00:02:14.660 So I was very, very blessed.
00:02:16.700 I think a lot of people probably don't know, Alex, that you're on a ton of terrestrial radio
00:02:20.640 and you have been for a long time.
00:02:21.900 How many are you on right now, by the way?
00:02:23.900 Well, we don't put a list of them out where the left harasses them, but it's over 200
00:02:29.240 AM and FM stations, over 100 cable and TV stations.
00:02:32.860 And that sounds like a lot, but there's actually tens of thousands of TV stations and radio stations.
00:02:36.840 But we're on 200 radio stations.
00:02:38.440 Rush Limbaugh was on 700, and he was on all the big ones.
00:02:41.340 I'm on a lot of small ones.
00:02:42.620 And then we're on a lot of little cable systems, some bigger cable systems.
00:02:46.280 We're on a lot of TV stations.
00:02:48.260 But, I mean, I'm on in, like, Illinois and Minnesota and Texas and California.
00:02:53.160 I mean, a lot of places on some big cable systems.
00:02:56.540 So, yeah, when they tried to de-platform us and, you know, take away Facebook, take away
00:03:01.680 Twitter, take away YouTube, Google, and over 60 other things, that hurt us.
00:03:05.800 But because we were still on hundreds of radio stations and things, you know, old-fashioned
00:03:10.140 terrestrial, that all exploded even bigger.
00:03:12.820 And a lot of stations took us from having us on at night when we were censored, you know,
00:03:16.760 rebroadcast to putting us on live.
00:03:18.320 So, there was quite the Streisand effect of them trying to silence us.
00:03:22.640 Yeah, I wanted to ask that.
00:03:24.000 Because, of course, the coast-to-coast effect happens.
00:03:27.700 And then all these other places, they wanted to get you dropped from there.
00:03:32.080 And I wanted to ask about your prediction of the social media bans.
00:03:35.860 Because when this happened, it was around the 2016, you guys were really, election, I
00:03:40.880 want to say, you guys were really hot.
00:03:42.560 You're the only ones predicting the stuff about Hillary Clinton.
00:03:45.020 You had the video there.
00:03:46.420 You and Paul Joseph Watson were on fire, I wanted to say.
00:03:49.340 And then I wrote down, in just like a quick text format on my laptop at the time.
00:03:53.740 This is five years ago now.
00:03:54.920 I wrote down, Alex Jones predicts that he's going to be banned off social media on this
00:03:58.400 day.
00:03:58.940 It came true. 0.65
00:03:59.980 And it came true for a lot of the people you said it was going to.
00:04:02.300 How did you predict that all that was going to happen?
00:04:04.420 Because now Rebel News is at risk of being deplatformed.
00:04:07.680 YouTube, we feel like it's almost at our last days.
00:04:10.400 How were you able to predict all this stuff?
00:04:11.980 Well, again, I want to say I was able to predict it.
00:04:16.300 But Klaus Schwab wrote a book about how they'd use a virus to take the world over.
00:04:20.600 So I didn't predict it.
00:04:21.600 I mean, it's like Mein Kampf.
00:04:22.700 Hitler wrote a book about what he was going to do.
00:04:25.000 So people knew what he was going to do.
00:04:26.580 The world just didn't listen.
00:04:28.340 You know, it's kind of like what Lenin and Stalin said they would do.
00:04:30.920 And they actually did what they said.
00:04:31.800 It was a nightmare.
00:04:33.040 And so we have to really listen to these people when they say it.
00:04:35.780 But I remember a Wall Street Journal article that was subscription, but there was a headline that linked me to it that was, hold on to your tinfoil hat, Alex Jones.
00:04:45.080 You're about to be banned off YouTube.
00:04:47.080 That was about six months before the election.
00:04:50.040 And there was a big Wall Street Journal 30-something page corporate paper because they were splitting newscore at the time, selling half of it to Disney.
00:04:56.780 And they said, hey, don't worry, shareholders.
00:04:59.640 So this wasn't like consumer pop news.
00:05:01.720 This was corporate news, subscription to CEOs and people.
00:05:05.560 They said, don't worry.
00:05:07.060 And they had a bunch of neocons involved and a bunch of leftists.
00:05:09.840 They said in the article, we're going to ban Julian Assange and WikiLeaks and Alex Jones.
00:05:15.620 And when the left and right don't defend them, then we're going to, in the next few years, basically ban everybody until the Internet is like a glorified Netflix.
00:05:25.080 And so we project our profits are going to be record level for liberal and conservative media once this happens.
00:05:33.860 So this was a prospectus to shareholders right as those companies were splitting.
00:05:38.340 So I read the whole report, and so I knew.
00:05:43.140 And so I was turning the heat up, and my dad was still working with me some then.
00:05:46.720 He's helped with accounting and stuff because I can trust him.
00:05:48.900 And my dad came over to my house one Saturday morning.
00:05:50.660 He goes, man, you are really, you know, with all this censorship starting and people getting threatened, you're really getting more aggressive.
00:05:56.060 And I said, Dad, they're going to ban me first.
00:05:58.060 I said, I might as well go down swinging.
00:06:00.020 And I said, I would predict, you know, by the election or right after, they'll officially ban us.
00:06:03.920 And then when we're not defended, it'll set the precedent to take everybody else down, basically not just here but worldwide.
00:06:10.580 So it wasn't hard to extrapolate and connect the dots.
00:06:14.160 Well, this was like a connect-the-dot five-year-olds get where you can look at the connect-the-dot and say, that's a duck, that's a train, that's a horse, that's a cow, that's a bunny rabbit.
00:06:22.300 Because, you know, the dots are a millimeter apart.
00:06:24.940 So there really wasn't even dot connecting here.
00:06:27.580 And so you could see where this corporate desire to have the only voice, government wants that, dying dinosaur media wants that, and corporations want that.
00:06:37.720 And so you had the perfect storm of three groups coming together to silence not just their opposition politically, but finally they can then muscle a PewDiePie that has 100 billion views online, last time I checked.
00:06:50.380 And they've already kind of basically shadow banned him because he wouldn't fully sell out to them and wouldn't become their mouthpiece.
00:06:56.900 I mean, he has more views than everybody on the Internet combined, basically.
00:07:01.640 30 times the views I had, I had 5 billion on our own channel on YouTube, and all total about 8 billion on YouTube that we could see on big channels.
00:07:09.620 And so here's PewDiePie with 100 billion back at that time, and I'm sure it's a lot more than that.
00:07:13.740 And so they told him, you better do what we say or we're going to take you over.
00:07:17.940 So it's really about muscling and owning all the talent.
00:07:21.660 This is a lot bigger than just Alex Jones.
00:07:23.460 Have you heard about the Internet censorship bill that's been put forth here in Canada, how they want to be able to regulate everyone?
00:07:30.480 They haven't put a definition as to how many followers or how much influence you have.
00:07:34.500 I'm not sure how you would quantify that.
00:07:35.960 But they've stated that if you have a certain level of influence or a certain level of following, they think it should be regulated.
00:07:42.160 What's your opinion on that?
00:07:43.080 Have you heard a lot about that yet?
00:07:45.320 Oh, absolutely.
00:07:45.960 What's it called?
00:07:47.340 Article 10 or something?
00:07:48.860 Bill C-10, I think.
00:07:50.920 Yeah, I was going off memory.
00:07:51.940 Yes, I read that about a month ago, and I really need to make a bigger deal out of that because that's all UN stuff.
00:07:57.560 Trudeau said he admires the dictatorship of Xi Jinping on video, as you know.
00:08:02.180 People ought to be horrified at that and said the women were just, looked like they were just having orgasms or something when he said it.
00:08:07.940 It was so exciting to be around that real Soviet-level or Maoist power.
00:08:12.680 And, yeah, they want to censor everybody.
00:08:16.000 They've already banned church services.
00:08:17.440 They've already, you know, done things like that.
00:08:20.400 And so they want total control.
00:08:23.120 This is all martial law training.
00:08:24.980 The virus is the excuse for martial law.
00:08:26.940 It's the excuse to say you're not essential and bankrupt you to put you on a universal income so that you can then be dictated to that you won't get your universal income unless you take the vaccine.
00:08:36.980 And so this is all what Klaus Schwab and the Davos Group, the Bilderberg Group, and the globalists have cooked up.
00:08:43.200 And, yes, saying, you know, at first in the legislation it was, oh, it's just for big telecoms.
00:08:49.360 We need to get control of them.
00:08:50.400 But they're never going to control them.
00:08:51.860 They, you know, most of the people in your high-level government, ours as well, their wives or husbands are employed by one of the big six tech companies.
00:09:00.100 And so, oh, bait and switch, it's for big tech to stop their monopoly, but then it turns into if you've got 1,000 followers, we're going to control what you do.
00:09:09.200 I mean, they go to people's houses in Europe, medical doctors that put out something contrarian about COVID-19 for what the U.N. says, and they get shut down.
00:09:18.820 The SWAT teams bust in while they're on air.
00:09:21.400 And so everything you see in Spain and Germany and Australia, which are full-blown police states, is come to Canada and it's coming to the U.S.
00:09:28.700 And that's why people have to understand that any cessation of lockdowns is for a limited time before they bring an even stronger lockdown and train you to always believe there's light at the end of the tunnel.
00:09:40.360 But when they finally lock it down for good, there'll never be light at the end of the tunnel.
00:09:44.840 I want to stick with de-platform a little bit, Alex.
00:09:48.440 There's a huge online debate about your episodes from Joe Rogan on Spotify.
00:09:53.220 Are they on there?
00:09:53.920 Are they being saved for something else?
00:09:55.900 Does it bother you?
00:09:56.960 Have you gotten a clear explanation of this or does Spotify just not willing to have episodes with you or Eddie Bravo or people like that?
00:10:04.300 Probably not even Crowder.
00:10:05.500 I'm not sure about that one.
00:10:06.460 But I know there's a lot of them that they're not allowing to be on there.
00:10:09.080 Have you heard Concrete one way or the other on that?
00:10:12.740 Yes.
00:10:13.120 Now I know in hindsight, I've known for a couple of months exactly what happened.
00:10:16.800 And it's a long story.
00:10:18.240 But I've got a few minutes.
00:10:19.020 You want me to tell you the story?
00:10:19.820 Of course, Alex.
00:10:20.360 There's a big online controversy.
00:10:21.420 There's been hundreds of articles written about this, and no one knows exactly what happened.
00:10:26.320 I didn't know what happened at the beginning.
00:10:28.080 Joe didn't know.
00:10:28.800 But now in hindsight, Joe's studio is down the road.
00:10:31.380 I'm good friends with Joe.
00:10:32.100 We talk all the time.
00:10:33.580 He moved to Austin here just last year.
00:10:37.640 And so if you'd like, I can put the controversy to rest.
00:10:39.960 Would you like to know?
00:10:40.640 Of course, Alex.
00:10:41.780 Come on.
00:10:42.220 Okay, well, here's what happened.
00:10:44.200 I guess it's about, I don't know, eight, nine months ago, Joe calls me and he says,
00:10:49.680 hey, I'm sick of YouTube censoring me and I'm sick of all this crap.
00:10:53.240 I'm doing a big deal with Spotify, but don't tell anybody.
00:10:55.880 And I didn't go buy stock in Spotify.
00:10:57.660 I didn't tell anybody.
00:10:58.980 And he said, I'm moving to Austin.
00:11:00.200 I'm looking at houses right now.
00:11:01.720 And I'll be moved there in a few months.
00:11:03.060 I'm going to buy a comedy club.
00:11:04.320 You know, none of that's a secret now.
00:11:05.960 It's all happened.
00:11:06.820 And I later told the story once he said I could start going public, you know, with the fact that he was moving to Spotify.
00:11:12.520 As soon as that announcement was made, I said on air, I said, hey, Joe's doing that.
00:11:17.100 So he won't be censored.
00:11:17.900 Well, then a couple hundred episodes out of 4,000 or so with Gavin McGinnis, yours truly, and Milo Yiannopoulos and others got taken down.
00:11:30.900 And episodes where Joe was talking about they shouldn't target children, you know, and try to make them, you know, confuse them when they're five years old in a gender dysphoria. 0.75
00:11:39.480 They wanted those episodes where Joe was just talking taken down.
00:11:43.660 And it turned out there was a cohort, a large percentage of the managerial staff at the New York-based part of Spotify.
00:11:51.640 The rest of it, the technicals in Sweden, but the sales and marketing and that stuff is in New York City.
00:11:58.160 And it turns out that something like half the people in the management are transgendered, formerly males.
00:12:04.740 And so just any talk of that is just absolutely not allowed.
00:12:09.120 That's Spotify, you're saying, right?
00:12:13.720 The staff there?
00:12:14.560 That's Spotify, yes, yes.
00:12:15.700 So there was a rebellion within Spotify.
00:12:18.680 They wanted to have Joe kicked off completely.
00:12:21.540 And so they tried to hold the place hostage.
00:12:23.160 That didn't work.
00:12:24.080 Then when the episodes were transferred over, they told the management it was an accident.
00:12:32.800 And so Joe said, I don't really believe it, but that's what they're telling me.
00:12:36.140 We'll see what happens.
00:12:36.800 They claim they're going to transfer them over.
00:12:38.360 So I go on air and I say, hey, Joe says it's a technical difficulty.
00:12:42.080 Those are going to get transferred over.
00:12:43.860 And then they're not transferred over.
00:12:45.720 And Joe goes, oh, whoa, okay, this is an issue.
00:12:49.340 And then Joe says, I'm going to have you on to prove once and for all to these people I can do what I want.
00:12:53.740 And, you know, I know you really know what you talk about.
00:12:56.580 So when they fact check you, it'll turn out you're right.
00:12:58.960 That'll blow up in their face.
00:13:00.480 Well, I didn't know how hard he was going to fact check me.
00:13:03.440 Every damn thing I said, it turned out it was all mainstream news.
00:13:06.440 It's all confirmed.
00:13:07.440 And that totally blew him away.
00:13:09.120 And then Joe said, okay, you said I could have my own show here.
00:13:12.560 If you don't control these people, you want to buy my contract out, that's fine.
00:13:15.620 But Alex Jones, everything he said, I literally was on his ass.
00:13:19.280 And so you can't take that down.
00:13:20.840 So that episode, five, whatever it is, 5,000-something, that is up there.
00:13:26.780 But, yes, the others aren't.
00:13:28.300 So then Joe came out himself and told the story I just told about how at first they said it was an accident, but then it wasn't.
00:13:36.000 There was a rebellion inside Spotify.
00:13:38.140 He stood up to them, basically said, if you don't like it, I can leave, pay my contract.
00:13:42.280 They basically told their employees, knock it off.
00:13:44.280 It's free speech.
00:13:44.980 Plus what Alex Jones said was documented, and so leave it alone.
00:13:49.400 Joe goes on air and tells that whole story and goes, yeah, it was censored.
00:13:53.620 Those are censored.
00:13:54.920 But I'm glad that they're still left on YouTube.
00:13:56.980 They're bigger there.
00:13:58.080 So I made a compromise later.
00:14:00.280 People go, oh, Joe Rogan lied to us.
00:14:02.820 He said that they were going to be transferred.
00:14:06.320 It was a mistake.
00:14:07.240 And then later he admitted it was censorship.
00:14:09.860 No.
00:14:10.060 He was explaining that he first is moving over there.
00:14:13.240 He's not even there yet, and they're wanting him taken off.
00:14:16.240 They're not even wanting him to have a show, some of these mutineers. 1.00
00:14:19.360 Then he gets there.
00:14:20.600 It's not transferred over.
00:14:22.820 First, when they published my interview, it got pulled down for a few hours, and Joe flipped out.
00:14:28.760 And then they went, oh, accident.
00:14:30.200 It went back up.
00:14:31.100 So this is a bunch of woke employees doing whatever they want.
00:14:34.740 Joe's doing comedy five nights a week.
00:14:37.060 Joe works all the time.
00:14:38.520 Joe's building a comedy club in Austin.
00:14:40.600 He wasn't paying attention.
00:14:42.000 Once it all came out, he went on air and annihilated those people, exposed what they did, and then it told people that, indeed, they were right.
00:14:50.340 It was being censored.
00:14:51.380 But the deal he got them to do, because he wanted to leave his whole catalog on YouTube, he thought just put ads all over his catalog, old catalog, that would send more people over to Spotify, which has been proven to be right.
00:15:01.640 So he used the fact when they did that to say, fine, when I move over there December 1st, 2020, we're going to leave those interviews up, which they've even grown and gotten bigger.
00:15:14.000 So he used a judo move on them to basically be able to then keep those episodes he wanted over there instead.
00:15:22.660 And so in a way, their attempt at censorship blew up in their face, because then Joe was able to keep part of his catalog up there on the site when before they weren't going to do that.
00:15:32.400 And so that was really exciting.
00:15:34.420 Wow, that's a lot of breaking news, I feel like, Alex.
00:15:38.060 Thank you.
00:15:39.860 When you and Joe are hanging out, I imagine the interactions are more frequent now that he lives in your state.
00:15:45.240 What are you guys doing when you're hanging out when you're not on air?
00:15:48.060 Can we get some of that, one of those stories of what you and Joe Rogan are up to when you're not recording?
00:15:54.620 Well, Joe works so much that I've, since he moved to Austin, I think we've only talked on the phone like every other day.
00:16:00.460 But I think we've only hung out, well, I guess we had dinner.
00:16:05.940 Yeah, we've had dinner like three times, and then he's been over to my studio and did like a three-hour interview.
00:16:12.340 And then we've hung out a few other times.
00:16:13.860 I was in his studio, but that's about it.
00:16:15.460 I mean, Joe works as hard as anybody I know, and he's about five years older than me.
00:16:20.620 So we'll go to a steakhouse, and we'll have like a two-and-a-half-hour dinner.
00:16:26.220 And there's usually some others, there's usually scientists there and or comedians.
00:16:31.160 So he'll kind of have a dinner with comedians.
00:16:32.920 He'll invite me to that.
00:16:34.380 Or he'll have a dinner with scientists, and then I'm there with scientists.
00:16:38.620 And that's what he pretty much does is he'll, on his off nights, maybe twice a week,
00:16:42.760 he'll take his daughters out to dinner or out to do an event or, you know, do something, and his wife.
00:16:48.140 And then about one day a week, he'll take, you know, he'll go out to dinner with like Elon Musk
00:16:53.160 or he'll go out to dinner with, you know, other scientists mainly from like top virologists, top, top, I mean,
00:17:04.240 I went to dinner, I'm not going to say who, but like a top AI expert.
00:17:07.440 We went to dinner with an AI expert.
00:17:08.680 And then Joe just sits there with really interesting people, and we'll eat a big old tomahawk,
00:17:13.580 a 35-ounce, 40-ounce steak, and then that's basically it.
00:17:19.340 When you guys were doing that big podcast where all the memes were taken from,
00:17:23.860 all the clips where you and Eddie Bravo and all that was happening,
00:17:28.120 it almost sounded like Joe wanted to take you out on tour with him.
00:17:31.840 Was there ever any discussion about Alex Jones should come out and be part of a comedy tour
00:17:36.480 or a bunch of shows? This is pre-lockdown.
00:17:39.340 Yes, Joe wants me to do comedy. I'd love to do it.
00:17:43.840 There's such a censorship thing going on that all the big venues that he would be at,
00:17:50.420 twice Joe has had me coming to be at his event, to be on stage with him, in Austin alone,
00:18:00.880 and both times, and these are the two biggest comedy clubs,
00:18:04.200 they said, no Alex Jones is allowed here because he's going to attack people and say,
00:18:11.720 attack people on air, which I never do. It's all media lies.
00:18:14.880 They take a few things I've said over 27 years out of context and say,
00:18:18.720 we're not going to allow him to yell fire in a theater or attack people at this place.
00:18:21.720 And these leftists that own these big comedy clubs, they even tell Joe Rogan,
00:18:26.780 who's in comedy right below James Chappelle.
00:18:29.880 I mean, he's in the top, you know, I mean, he packs 20,000 person arenas.
00:18:33.960 He's on tour with Dave Chappelle around the country.
00:18:36.320 I was just thinking about going to see him in Vegas, you know, coming up here in a few months.
00:18:41.440 I'm not a huge fan of Vegas, but I like comedy shows there that, you know,
00:18:44.060 they know how to do it, go hang out with Joe in Vegas.
00:18:59.880 You know, you have to hang out with Joe. I've known Joe since 1998.
00:19:09.040 I've hung out with him since 99 and I have partied hard with Joe Rogan in Vegas,
00:19:14.720 in Dallas, in LA and all over. So I, I, I've known Joe for a long, long time.
00:19:21.640 He's a great guy because I'm not into celebrities. You know, I don't care about Brad Pitt.
00:19:25.220 I don't care about all that kind of crap because I've actually been at parties with those folks before.
00:19:29.280 They're just boring. I don't care about, you know, Sean Penn or any, it's all a big joke or Josh Brolin
00:19:35.220 or any of these guys that like got to stick up their ass, but, but Joe Rogan, I always thought he was cool.
00:19:40.740 And, you know, and, and, and, and so getting to really know him and hang out a lot with him for,
00:19:46.140 for 20 plus years has been really fun. He used to take me to UFC events and, you know,
00:19:51.220 take me to UFC championships behind the scenes, you know, hang out with him for three days while
00:19:55.540 they're doing the buildup shoots, you know, and all the big trailers outside with ESPN and,
00:20:00.360 you know, Dana White and all the rest of it. They're just all Dana White, super cool.
00:20:04.200 Met him a few times, but since you're, you know, off of the Joe Rogan, Jack, you know,
00:20:08.860 Joe worked a lot 20 years ago, but he really works now. I mean, he's a machine works out for like two
00:20:14.760 hours every day. So that's what's going on with Joe Rogan. And as for me, I'm just now getting back
00:20:19.040 into working out. I've, uh, the last podcast, I had a cracked tooth that was hurt the day before
00:20:23.260 was going to get pulled, but I didn't want to do it. And then it was incredibly painful
00:20:27.240 when I was on with Joe here in Austin, but it still turned out. Okay.
00:20:30.980 I have this imagination land here, Alex, where Alex Jones is, he goes up with Joe Rogan.
00:20:36.940 I see no reason why you couldn't be on the mainstream talk shows. I mean, I get that on the
00:20:42.240 surface, that seems like an insane idea, but even if they disagree with you, there's this world in my
00:20:46.800 head that where that could exist, where Alex Jones is on, uh, on the, on Jimmy Fallon or something
00:20:51.540 like that. Would that be something that you would even do? Oh, sure. I mean, the highest ratings,
00:20:54.220 I'm not trying to brag about myself, freedom and edgy stuff is popular. People always want
00:20:58.800 whatever's outlaw and was ever suppressed. But before I got banned, like you said, the week of
00:21:04.020 the election, uh, 2016, we had 20, excuse me. Yeah. Yeah. 2016. We had 86 million individual IP
00:21:14.240 addresses of real visitors to infowars.com on our streams and our videos, not counting the radio
00:21:20.580 stations, the rest of it are videos copied to YouTube or Facebook. It was super viral. We were
00:21:25.060 the biggest political thing ever. Uh, you know, as big as Trump was at that point. And that's when
00:21:30.720 they shut it all down and tried to, but, but now it's like lava under a volcano. It's just been,
00:21:36.140 it's just been building up. I mean, I did the biggest Piers Morgan ratings he ever had when I was
00:21:40.340 on with him. That was even in USA today, uh, that year, they looked at all the ratings. So that was
00:21:44.140 the highest, uh, rated cable event on cable news that year, not just for Piers Morgan. Um, and so
00:21:50.600 yeah, anything I do ends up having giant views, giant ratings. And so it's like, Oh, people can't
00:21:56.580 have that. They can't just have somebody shooting from the hip telling like it is, you know, they just
00:22:00.520 can't have that. And so, yeah, now it's like weird. I'm like suppressed, but then it makes it kind
00:22:05.260 of trickle out and people even want it more. So I think I get more than my due of, of, of people
00:22:11.160 thinking I'm, you know, a good guy. I mean, I am a good guy. I do tell the truth. I make mistakes
00:22:15.080 sometimes, but, uh, I don't ever want what I really do to get overshadowed by, by hype. And I think
00:22:21.460 only their de-platforming me has a, cause I'll even say some stupid stuff when I'm on a show and I don't
00:22:27.680 even mean it as a joke. And then people listen to it and then like, it's Nostradamus. They like turn it
00:22:32.560 into something really, Oh God, you get the deepness of that. And no, the truth was I was
00:22:37.180 drunk and, you know, had a huge toothache, but, but it's, it's, it's pretty crazy.
00:22:41.540 I want to transition now. Perfect segue, Alex. I want to transition to crypto. Um, I just got into
00:22:47.460 the game. I'm not going to lie. Uh, everybody's selling their coin this, that way. And the other,
00:22:52.260 you've got MP4s that are crypto. You've got a video games that are giving cryptos a prize. Is this a
00:22:58.240 real boom? Do you think is this going to replace a traditional currency or is it just like sort of
00:23:03.580 like another form of gambling? Cause when I'm on this app, it feels the same way as when I bet on
00:23:07.600 a UFC fight. Well, the guy that first told me about it, Max Kaiser invented the Hollywood stock
00:23:14.520 exchange, but then that got blown up on nine 11 in the world trade center. So that project got killed.
00:23:19.400 And he told me when I was covering Bilderberg 10, 11 years ago in, in, um, England, North of London
00:23:26.060 at our hotel next door, he was trying for like an hour to get a wallet set up on the laptop
00:23:32.780 that my, uh, assistant had. I remember he getting real pissed. He goes, listen,
00:23:37.400 this is going to end up being the world reserve currency in a decade or so. I'm trying to give
00:23:41.480 you 10,000 Bitcoin dumbass. And I want you to give it away to your audience. You can keep a thousand
00:23:46.260 of them. And Max, who I had on all the time, got so pissed at me a couple of days after he just said,
00:23:53.340 you're an effing idiot and stomped off away from me, which I wish you would have punched me in the 1.00
00:23:57.500 nose because he was right about it. And so, because I knew it was gambling of a type and
00:24:03.120 because I, especially once all the new cryptos got launched and it got all confusing and there's
00:24:07.080 all sorts of scammers involved, I never got into it. But when I saw the big banks accept it and then
00:24:13.420 Tesla at a certain level, now he's jumping out of it for carbon tax reasons. I just said, look,
00:24:17.840 don't ever put more in it than you can lose. It's pure speculation, but it is good to have
00:24:22.340 alternate currency systems. I like the NFTs where they're creating a piece of art, physical or
00:24:28.120 digital, that's been connected to a currency. I like making art a currency, ideas a currency. So
00:24:34.420 it's revolutionary to the 108-year-old out-of-control private Federal Reserve. It's revolutionary
00:24:42.540 to the Bank of England. And so we've gone from tally sticks and seashells, the fractional reserve
00:24:48.840 banking to this. And so, yeah, I think I just kind of stayed out of it because I didn't want to
00:24:55.120 engross myself in understanding it. Now I've made myself the last four or five years engrossed myself.
00:25:01.060 Max Keiser came here two years ago and he said, listen, it's going to double in the next couple
00:25:05.280 of years. You haven't even, and of course it did more than triple. He goes, you need to get on now.
00:25:10.560 And he wasn't even trying to sell any Bitcoin to me. He was just telling me.
00:25:13.840 And so even if it goes down 80%, I'm going to stay in. I haven't bought much, but I bought some
00:25:18.600 just because you got to keep your finger and your toe in all these things as long as they're legal.
00:25:25.260 But I think it is gambling and an obsession if you go too far, but at least it's not corrupt Las
00:25:31.200 Vegas where the odds are totally rigged again. So you can get out when you want, get in when you
00:25:34.800 want. At least it's not like guys that watched 50 hours of sports a week, you know, trying to make
00:25:41.200 money that way. So everything's a gamble. Asking that girl out, deciding to get married and have 0.94
00:25:45.600 children, you know, deciding to go here instead of there, deciding to interview this person instead
00:25:50.740 of that person. Everything's a gamble. And anybody that tries to control all the risk in their life
00:25:55.860 ends up being a prisoner of their own fears.
00:25:58.680 I want to mention, we're mentioning the banks of the United States to set the reserve and everything.
00:26:05.640 Joe Biden and the economy is not looking good right now. To cert, we're reeling it back to
00:26:10.600 traditional politics. The circle back. Exactly. The circle back. I'll get back to you on that in
00:26:15.980 six to eight weeks, Alex. I want to ask you what you think is the end game here for Biden in terms
00:26:21.260 of do they have any sort of plan? There's the gas shortage. Oh, all of a sudden we need the pipeline
00:26:25.940 back. The border is extremely porous. All of a sudden we need to build the wall again. Are we just
00:26:31.360 going to have Biden coming back to where Trump was leaving off? Or is there some sort of hidden,
00:26:36.500 whether it's for better or for worse, is there some sort of plan here that the Biden administration is
00:26:40.180 going to administer over time? We're what, three months in? Well, yeah, that's it. I mean, look,
00:26:44.860 look, look, look. You hear articles like he's increasing the cap of refugees to 68,000.
00:26:50.740 I've been to the border. I've seen the actual border patrol numbers. It's 200,000 a month.
00:26:54.660 They're not following refugee caps. You know, I mean, I mean, I mean, this whole thing is all just 1.00
00:26:59.960 completely and absolutely illegal. And then, yeah, oh, this pipeline got cut off. So now we need the
00:27:06.480 Keystone Pipeline. They want a cut of it. They want to control it. When you hear carbon taxes,
00:27:11.320 they don't want to get rid of gasoline. They just want us to pay a big portion of it to big banks
00:27:15.940 and add an energy tax into it. So yeah, absolutely. They're collapsing the third world, but they want 1.00
00:27:23.380 a border there so they can select who they let in and who they don't. And right now they want
00:27:28.180 dependent mothers with children who can be brought in and brainwashed into leftist voters. And so, 1.00
00:27:33.180 yeah, what Trump did was very popular, very common sense. And so Biden's taking some of
00:27:39.020 what Trump did rhetoric wise to get the middle class not to wake up and totally vote Democrats out
00:27:45.120 while he stealthily implements the whole globalist agenda.
00:27:49.460 Now, I want to ask you a bit more about the lockdowns and what's going on with that. We see
00:27:57.040 a bunch of different states having different implementation. There's mask mandates here.
00:28:00.900 Up here in Canada, it seems like we're pretending the entire rest of the world doesn't exist.
00:28:06.400 We're in this little bubble here where we need to keep locking down. The other day,
00:28:09.520 they warned of a fourth wave. They said, if we behave for the next couple of months,
00:28:13.580 well, we're not going to get events. We're not going to get concerts. We might have a normal summer.
00:28:18.840 Is this just a situation, do you think, where they're going to go as far as people let them?
00:28:22.960 Or is there some sort of, I don't know, roadmap that they're actually following?
00:28:28.320 Oh, well, I mean, it came out eight months ago that that document out of the French province,
00:28:35.700 I think it was up in Montreal. And people said, is this a real document? Well, I just scanned
00:28:41.320 quotes out of the document about how they were planning a second, third and fourth lockdown.
00:28:45.780 And I found it on the UN website. I found it in Germany. I found it in Australia. I found it in
00:28:50.540 the UK. That was really their plan. It's all in Klaus Schwab's COVID-19, the Great Reset.
00:28:56.000 And so, yes, in Australia, in the UK, in Canada, they're all, say they're independent,
00:29:03.660 but I mean, really, they're all British commonwealths still. They want lockdown. They
00:29:08.160 want to bankrupt the small businesses. They want to vertically integrate into the big box stores and
00:29:13.220 the big mega banks that have the money and the power to stay open through this artificial depression.
00:29:19.620 This is an artificial depression. The big tech, big banks, the big box stores have doubled or
00:29:24.740 tripled their profits while half the businesses in the Western world have gone out of business and
00:29:29.640 will never reopen. And so we're being taught, oh, you're not essential with your mom and pop grocery
00:29:34.120 store, but the big grocery store is essential. And so this is the essence of slavery where these
00:29:40.420 powerful organizations and the bureaucracy that has a hunger to enforce these powers now gets to go
00:29:46.380 for the general public. That's law abiding. They never had any jurisdiction over. And so whatever
00:29:53.200 Thomas Jefferson was once asked, what level of tyranny will tyrants take us to? And he said,
00:29:58.500 my dear sir, to whatever level you allow them, that is the limit. The limit is what we put up with
00:30:04.100 there. Because even if this politician isn't that bad, if we just roll over like sheep, there'll be a new
00:30:09.360 avarice filled group that'll pay to put their guy in to go after you. So you create a vacuum of 0.99
00:30:14.760 subserviency. You create a vacuum of submission. You create a vacuum of sheepish behavior. And as
00:30:21.360 Benjamin Franklin said, a nation of sheep will be ruled by wolves. And so Canadians, I'm sure will 1.00
00:30:29.160 kick your ass in a hockey game. And if you start a fight with a Canadian who's a nice guy, they can 0.99
00:30:33.720 fight. They're not wimps. But they've been taught that it's civilized and nice to do what you're
00:30:39.720 told. And now you're being really abused by a multinational group of criminals with a black-faced 0.99
00:30:45.800 leader who says, what type of government do you admire most? China's basic dictatorship.
00:30:54.120 He also said the vaccine passport is for our own safety. Alex, I'm sure you know as well as I do
00:31:00.600 that a lot of people are disappointed with the way Republicans and conservative leadership and
00:31:06.240 government has acted under these lockdowns. I feel like there's been so much low-hanging fruit for
00:31:10.640 them to jump on and get way more voters and get more grassroots support. But that doesn't seem to
00:31:15.400 be happening at all. Who do you think is going to be the frontrunner for a Republican candidacy 0.62
00:31:20.520 in the next election? Do you have any inklings at all?
00:31:24.700 Well, I like how Rand Paul is coming out because Fauci did fund gain a function at Wuhan. It's in all
00:31:30.540 the documents. The receipts have been published. There was major controversy in major newspapers,
00:31:36.180 major scientific groups, wrote about it in New Scientist, you name it, Chapel Hill, North Carolina,
00:31:42.880 Fauci and Obama running gain a function. When the whistle got blown, they moved it to Wuhan.
00:31:47.440 He just told Congress last week or this week that they never did that. And so I like Senator Paul
00:31:54.180 saying, hey, Fauci was behind cooking this up. Did he release it on purpose? You know what I mean?
00:31:58.780 I like going that direction. We need Nuremberg too, in my view, because these guys, it was all
00:32:03.340 a power grab, in my view. It was all basically engineered. And then I like DeSantis saying that
00:32:12.080 we're going to sue the government for the lockdown and what they did, saying people were not essential,
00:32:15.820 but leaving open the big box stores. I think DeSantis is a leader. Everybody that Trump backs
00:32:22.780 is still winning in these runoff races. You've got a lot of evidence showing that there was
00:32:29.400 hanky-panky in the election coming out in Arizona right now. And so I think the populist movement
00:32:35.540 worldwide is stronger than ever. The globalists have launched the lockdown, the Great Reset. They say,
00:32:43.840 John Kerry said the Great Reset is to counter populists in Europe, Brazil, and America.
00:32:48.680 And when he says America, he means Canada as well. So if you're just busy living on subsistence
00:32:53.740 check from the government and almost starving to death, you're not going to care if you're
00:32:58.520 being surveilled or censored, they think. So I think they've gambled wrong. I think they've
00:33:04.280 summoned the sleeping giant, but we're witnessing corporate world government martial law where only
00:33:09.260 the UN official view of COVID-19 is orthodoxy, and only that can be said. And medical doctors or
00:33:16.580 scientists that question said orthodoxy are censored, and then even try to censor criticizing
00:33:22.320 the censorship. Even if you don't say the abominations, you don't even question the
00:33:27.520 abominations that violate UN canon law on what we've been told about COVID-19, where two and a half
00:33:33.400 million Americans will be dead. Didn't happen. Or only 15-day shutdown to cut the curve. All of it
00:33:40.640 was, or, oh, the vaccine's 100%. Now that, you know, eight of the Yankees have COVID-19 after
00:33:45.240 taking it. I mean, everything they told us is basically upside down land.
00:33:50.080 Yeah. And our own premier here, Doug Ford, took the vaccine that's been now taken off the market.
00:33:56.000 He still says that he would take it without a second hesitation for the second dose.
00:33:59.380 They're mixing and matching different vaccines, which has been shown in an article,
00:34:04.220 mainstream media article, that has three times as many side effects. But I digress on that.
00:34:08.660 Oh, oh, oh. I mean, remember Doug Ford, and of course, remember his wonderful brother. I mean,
00:34:14.220 that's the type of people that the system picks here. Having that weird press conference where
00:34:17.760 the police will ask you where you're going if you go out, that's how London is. That's martial law.
00:34:23.200 And then he backed off once people got mad. That's the answer. People need to stop submitting.
00:34:29.000 The limit of tyranny that you'll live under is the limit that you put up with.
00:34:33.260 With all the censoring, even in social media messages, you can't send links to other people.
00:34:37.600 And of course, the blatant hypocrisy that is existing on all these things.
00:34:41.540 You guys have always been ahead of the curve, I've thought.
00:34:43.460 You have your own native video player. You run off your own ads and everything,
00:34:47.480 different servers and everybody else.
00:34:49.300 What do you think is going to be the next popular form of getting news out to people?
00:34:53.760 Because I see people, a lot of the time, they're a reporter and they're a host on shows.
00:34:58.600 They're a videographer. And we have a lot of them here. 0.71
00:35:01.060 Videographer, editor, camera person.
00:35:03.000 What do you think is the next form where people are going to say, hey, this is where we need to target our media to get out to people?
00:35:10.060 Well, so many talk show hosts I knew in the past were always in competition with everybody else.
00:35:15.420 I think the more reporters, the more writers, the more researchers, I think anybody with a camera,
00:35:20.680 anybody with a laptop is just as important as I am or as Matt Drudge is or as Saki is,
00:35:27.100 you know, up there at the White House press briefings.
00:35:28.860 In fact, they're more important because there's more of you and you're on the ground and you're going to show us that truth blazoned with the photos of the video you shoot.
00:35:38.920 So I think you've got big brothers surveilling us to control us and enslave us.
00:35:43.120 We need to have the people show reality so they're unable to distort it as much.
00:35:50.080 And so absolutely, I think everybody should just get out there and go to their city council and speak out but also interview people.
00:35:57.280 I think everybody should, you know, be a reporter but also be an activist and stand up for a pro-human future, stand up for transparency and justice.
00:36:05.340 It's not right-wing, it's not left-wing.
00:36:07.060 Stand up for human civilization.
00:36:08.800 Stand up for justice.
00:36:10.020 Stand up for classical values that were the avant-garde.
00:36:14.300 A thousand years ago, nobody had freedom.
00:36:16.440 Eight hundred years ago, we had the Magna Carta.
00:36:17.960 Out of that, out of the British common law and Judaic common law, we got the modern basic tenets of due process and freedom, and we need to protect all of that common law.
00:36:31.940 We need to defend that common law.
00:36:33.820 We need to promote that common law because it's the renaissance.
00:36:37.020 It's the written word.
00:36:38.100 It's all that came out of Europe and the renaissance of 500 years ago that really started with Magna Carta and with the reformation of the Catholic Church.
00:36:47.180 We need a reformation of government, a reformation of the system.
00:36:50.960 We need to recognize that the left can admit that they are the Jacobins of the French Revolution that George Washington warned of. 0.71
00:37:01.120 Our revolution wasn't like that.
00:37:02.280 If theirs was bloody and wanted power and wanted to set themselves up as kings, not get rid of the kings.
00:37:08.160 And so we face the Jacobins.
00:37:10.560 That's who the communists are.
00:37:11.920 That's who the globalists are.
00:37:13.360 That's who they are.
00:37:14.240 That's why the freedom lives at Ban.Video.
00:37:17.060 That link is banned on Twitter and many other places.
00:37:19.400 So the link that's working right now to share all the videos is BanThis.TV, BanThis.TV, and, of course, the vaunted, dreaded InfoWars.com and NewsWars.com.
00:37:29.600 And we're there, and we love the work that Rebel Media is doing, and we love the fact that you are just exposing the abject tyranny taking place, not just in your country, but as far away as Australia.
00:37:40.320 Well, they're even demonizing those people now.
00:37:42.440 I don't know if you saw the article from The Intercept the other day calling them the riot squad.
00:37:46.620 They're demonizing people like Elijah Schaefer, Jorge Ventura, who are literally just going and exposing Antifa riots, and now they're dubbing them as some sort of fringe alt-right movement or something.
00:37:56.540 So now even just going and pointing a camera at Antifa riots in Portland and Seattle or BLM riots is now some sort of fringe alt-right thing.
00:38:05.060 Now we've got it.
00:38:05.720 Well, Savannah Hernandez used to work here, and as soon as she went to work for Elijah Schaefer, doing a great job, both of them, they banned her off Twitter.
00:38:12.340 And she didn't even talk.
00:38:13.680 She would just show them she's a beautiful Hispanic Asian woman. 1.00
00:38:17.900 And the Antifa beat her up in Austin, and that's when they took her off Twitter, because they couldn't show Antifa beating a woman up who did nothing. 0.57
00:38:27.740 And so exactly, they are silencing, they are censoring everyone that just shows their communist takeover.
00:38:34.420 Alex, my last question to you was, I want to know how I get on the Alex Jones text messaging list to be friends and get your hot takes on everything.
00:38:41.480 Well, brother, I'm going to give you my phone number when this great interview is over, but really, my crew tried to get me a couple years ago to get folks to sign up for that free text system.
00:38:50.800 That's one of the final places to get around censors, and they're now even saying that Facebook, on its WhatsApp app or whatever it's called, is going to be trying to censor people inside their text messages, and CNN's been calling for that.
00:39:03.440 In fact, it's already being done in Brazilian places.
00:39:05.820 Facebook is going in and censoring in Brazil and Eastern Europe.
00:39:08.700 So again, there's no level to this. It's like them breaking in on your phone line and saying, hey, you can't tell your mother what you just said.
00:39:15.420 It's like when you try to text people F you or whatever, it'll say duck you.
00:39:19.960 That's the level of pre-programmed AI censorship, and it's got to be stopped.
00:39:24.540 We've got to stop complying with the censorship, stop self-censoring. That's the way to break the back of this thing.
00:39:30.160 All right, Alex Jones, I appreciate you. I'll always be welcoming you on my program.
00:39:35.080 I'd love to come on your show as well. Any final words for our viewers here in Canada?
00:39:39.360 No, I just love Rebel Media, and I want to get you and Ezra Levant and all your great crew on,
00:39:44.420 because you guys are an example for all independent media. You do an amazing job.
00:39:47.800 God bless, my friend.
00:39:48.960 All right, thank you. Band.video and Infowars.com, you guys.
00:39:51.700 So,
00:39:54.500 you could do it.
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