Rebel News Podcast - June 08, 2021


Did you know that Facebook has a Supreme Court?

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The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that Donald Trump is not allowed back on Facebook for two more years. This is a ruling that would have been overturned in a real court, but it was made by a foreign politician working for the Supreme Court.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I'm going to try and make an arc of a conversation that loops in India,
00:00:07.360 Nigeria, El Salvador, Canada, the United States, Germany, Mexico. Oh, you'll have to tell me if I'm
00:00:13.100 successful, but I point out how big tech and big government are merging, and sometimes smaller
00:00:20.740 countries are caught in the crossfire of some big battles. Listen, I'll tell you, I'll explain
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00:00:56.240 Tonight, did you know that Facebook has a Supreme Court? It's June 7th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:13.640 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:17.080 Well, there's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say
00:01:22.660 to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:32.060 Well, the Supreme Court has ruled Donald Trump is not allowed back on Facebook for two more years.
00:01:40.940 Now, it's not the Supreme Court of the United States. I don't think they would issue such a
00:01:46.780 ruling, first of all, and that would violate the First Amendment. Americans have free speech more
00:01:51.380 than we do up here. Second of all, Donald Trump would have been able to be heard in court. He
00:01:57.100 would have had lawyers. He would have had evidence and arguments, and we would know who the judges are,
00:02:02.360 and they would have to explain themselves with their reasoning in a published statement called
00:02:08.360 a judgment. None of that happened. You see, Facebook has their own internal Supreme Court.
00:02:15.220 The thing is, you're not allowed to know who's on it, what their rules are, when they meet,
00:02:22.200 who's in the meeting. You're not allowed to know anything about it other than what they finally
00:02:27.260 decide. And here's the crazy thing. This decision to ban Donald Trump to extend his ban that was put
00:02:36.120 on him in January was made not by an American, but by a Brit named Nick Clegg,
00:02:43.180 who used to run a left of center remain political party in the UK. That is, it didn't want to
00:02:49.640 separate in the Brexit. So you have a career politician, left of center, who hates the
00:02:57.100 Brexiteers, including Donald Trump's best friend, Nigel Farage. So again, this is something you wouldn't
00:03:04.120 see in a real court that kind of a bias. So a foreign politician working for Facebook's Supreme
00:03:11.780 Court has banned the American president at the time, now former president, from being on Facebook for
00:03:18.220 two years. And this is just normal. It's just accepted. It's not the only bit of international
00:03:28.220 judicial punishment being meted out by Silicon Valley oligarchs. I don't know if you've been
00:03:35.120 following, but Twitter's at war with different countries in Africa. It was at war with Uganda.
00:03:43.000 And over the weekend, last week, the last few days, it's had a big fight with Nigeria, one of the 0.99
00:03:51.100 largest and most important countries in Africa. Twitter banned the president of Nigeria from being
00:04:00.140 on their platform, just like they had done with Donald Trump. I mean, if you can ban the president
00:04:05.460 of the United States from being on your platform, you know, you can ban anyone. Although for some weird
00:04:10.280 reason, Twitter has not banned Chinese dictators and diplomats or the Ayatollahs of Iran. I find that
00:04:17.520 odd. But they banned Trump and they got away with it. So they banned the Nigerian president. Well,
00:04:22.980 he didn't take that as nicely and gently as Donald Trump did. So he banned them back. Nigeria banned the
00:04:33.000 entire app from their country. Now, of course, there's people who can work around it. There's
00:04:38.020 something in tech called a VPN, which sort of hides where your geography is. So it allows you to
00:04:43.660 connect to websites, even if they're banned in your country. But still, it was the moral blow to it.
00:04:50.440 If you're going to ban me, I'm going to ban you. And here's the icing on the cake. Twitter,
00:04:56.580 which had banned the president of Nigeria, which had banned the president of the United States,
00:05:02.600 issued this tweet where they were outraged about freedom of expression. Hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:05:08.900 You just banned him. And that was fine with your freedom of expression. In this case, the Supreme
00:05:15.800 Court of Twitter wasn't the boss. I want to tell you who the Supreme Court of Twitter is. They don't
00:05:23.440 have Nick Clegg in this whole secret court like they do at Facebook. It's just this kook, Jack Dorsey.
00:05:30.360 And I call him a kook. He's got that Rasputin beard. And here he is when he made a deal with 1.00
00:05:37.140 a wrapper to take some body parts of his and make an amulet to ward off ISIS. It's like he was in
00:05:47.220 voodoo or something. So this kooky messiah with the Rasputin beard who's getting amulets made to ward 0.96
00:05:56.220 off ISIS, he's the one who's deciding which world leaders can or can't speak on Twitter, which means 0.87
00:06:04.360 who you or I can't hear or see on Twitter. How are you liking this new world order?
00:06:12.000 Hold your answer there until I tell you how some others are liking it. This is from our friend
00:06:15.800 Alan Bocari at Breitbart.com. As you know, when Trump was originally banned by all the tech companies,
00:06:22.600 the media in America and Canada cheered and the Democrats cheered, but other countries were less
00:06:28.660 thrilled about it, including countries that are led by left of center leaders, because they quickly
00:06:34.700 realized this is not a rule of law. And it's certainly not an international order or treaties
00:06:41.580 or things like that. This is a few people in Silicon Valley who think they're on Mount Olympus just
00:06:48.780 hurling down thunderbolts at whoever down below. And whereas they're connected to the Democratic Party,
00:06:55.180 they have no real connection to people in Nigeria or Germany or Mexico or wherever.
00:07:02.020 And so you saw here, the president of Mexico, who is very much left of center, said he was very
00:07:08.880 concerned about Twitter and other social media companies issuing rulings. Here's Angela Merkel,
00:07:15.060 certainly no friend of Donald Trump, but the same thing. These world leaders quickly realized
00:07:19.840 that the American deep state was much more than just the U.S. government. It's the merger of big
00:07:26.940 government with big tech. And so we saw in India a similar battle. India wasn't fighting so much with
00:07:36.540 Twitter, although it's been doing that. India's issued arrests and other search warrants against Twitter
00:07:42.260 for similar shenanigans in their country. India is battling Twitter from America, but it's also
00:07:48.880 battling Chinese apps, Chinese apps that spy on India. As you know, India's been fighting with China,
00:07:57.280 sort of a slow motion war high up in the mountains has been for some time. What have we here?
00:08:04.740 We have a realization that every country in the world soon has to make a decision. Do they be part of the U.S.
00:08:15.620 tech stack or the Chinese or Russian tech stack, or do they try and go it alone? If you're an independent
00:08:25.300 country, do you really want America's Silicon Valley ruling the discourse in your country? Or would you rather
00:08:32.760 ban Twitter and have your own homemade variety? Or will you swap it out for the Russian tech platform 0.99
00:08:39.120 VK? That's their form of Facebook. China has TikTok, which the West bizarrely allows to propagate amongst
00:08:47.360 us. Well, I think one of the answers may be what El Salvador announced this weekend at a Bitcoin conference
00:08:58.220 in Miami. Let me just show you a brief moment of what that conference looked like. And I say that
00:09:03.480 from Toronto, the most locked down city in the world. In Toronto, people wear masks when they're
00:09:09.260 alone in their car. In Toronto, people wear masks when they're jogging. People wear masks when they're
00:09:13.380 bicycling. People scold each other, snitch on each other for masks. In Toronto, it was just announced that
00:09:18.860 schools will not meet again anywhere in Ontario with children until at least September, maybe later.
00:09:24.720 That's the mindset in Ontario and in Toronto in particular, the scoldiest, snitchiest city in the 0.97
00:09:31.680 world. Contrast that to Miami. Here's the mayor of Miami, a Republican, Mayor Suarez, who was addressing
00:09:41.800 that Bitcoin conference, and you won't see a mask in sight. That's a bit of a self-serving speech,
00:09:46.780 but just listen to it for a moment.
00:09:52.740 I only wish I could wait for the thousands of people who are standing out there to come inside to hear my speech
00:09:57.700 because I want everybody to hear this. For me, this journey of trying to create the Bitcoin, blockchain, and
00:10:07.360 mining capital of the world happened long before I uttered the tweet heard around the world,
00:10:15.320 how can I help? And while 2.7 million people saw that tweet, they didn't know that many years prior,
00:10:24.100 I was on the Florida Blockchain Foundation, was named to the Florida Blockchain Task Force by the CFO of Florida,
00:10:29.960 and of course, we opened our very own Miami Bitcoin Center. And what I didn't know was that the portal
00:10:38.540 of positivity that I stumbled upon in Twitter, yes, there does exist a portal of positivity in Twitter,
00:10:44.980 on December 4th, would take me on a journey to discover the transformational importance for my city
00:10:52.080 of leaning into Bitcoin to make Miami a technological leader in the world.
00:11:00.380 You have a convention packed with people. No one's wearing the mask. Everyone's optimistic,
00:11:06.540 talking about business and the future, how opposite from Canada. But one of the things that we're talking
00:11:12.140 about in particular was Bitcoin, the cryptocurrency. And over the weekend, it was announced
00:11:17.520 that the country of El Salvador is introducing legislation to make Bitcoin legal tender in that country.
00:11:28.700 Other countries choose the American dollar. That's pretty widely accepted in places like Panama.
00:11:33.580 That's even been the official currency. Other places in the world increasingly use the Chinese yuan.
00:11:39.500 But El Salvador is saying none of the above. Both of those are too easily manipulated.
00:11:45.000 They're going with Bitcoin. And so you have a story of two countries, Nigeria and El Salvador,
00:11:54.280 both of them resisting manipulation by big tech, but both of them in doing so resisting
00:12:00.960 the American sphere of influence. It's a bit crazy that when America starts to violate its own First
00:12:09.140 Amendment, it's other countries that react more negatively, even more so than their own citizens.
00:12:15.000 And us here in Canada, well, we're happy to go along with all the censorship in the world,
00:12:21.580 aren't we? Stay with us for more.
00:12:23.520 What was that? Was that the Taliban dynamiting statues that they found religious?
00:12:53.500 religiously odious? What was that? Well, that was in the streets of Toronto where Antifa activists
00:13:00.040 pulled down the statue of Egerton or Egerton Ryerson, after whom Ryerson University is named.
00:13:08.920 Obviously, no police interference at all. In fact, as far as I know, days have passed and no arrests are
00:13:15.960 being made because certain political crimes are exempt from law enforcement. Joining with us now
00:13:21.660 to talk about this via Skype from Winnipeg is Spencer Fernando. He's got a new column on the subject
00:13:27.600 entitled to, entitled, Why Are We Letting Mobs Decide Which Statues Get to Stand? Spencer, great to see 0.55
00:13:35.800 you. What's your take on this whole thing? It's, it's a little bit unsettling to know that just anyone can
00:13:42.020 tear down a statue just cause. Yeah, you know, I think it's the, the whole idea of just anyone being
00:13:49.720 able to take down a statue is really independent from the broader moral debate on historical figures
00:13:55.240 and what should be done about statues and, you know, plaques and everything. Uh, there's certainly
00:14:00.140 a discussion and a debate to be had, but this is not the way to do it, right? I mean, cause you're,
00:14:03.880 you're really, you're not giving anyone else a chance to have their opinion, to have their discussion,
00:14:07.560 to really, you know, have a democratic, uh, debate, uh, or consensus around anything. It's just simply
00:14:13.880 a group of people saying, Hey, we don't like this. We're going to tear it down. And of course,
00:14:17.260 the question is if every political group, uh, in the country started acting like this,
00:14:21.100 how do you think things would turn out? Well, that's a good point. I mean, there's statues in
00:14:25.060 this country. I don't like, there's a statue of Norman Bethune. That's the Canadian doctor who was such
00:14:31.280 a communist. He went to communist China and was a doctor with the Maoist revolution. There's
00:14:36.040 statues for Tommy Douglas. There's some good things you can say about Tommy Douglas,
00:14:41.740 but he was in favor of eugenics. And by that, I mean, sterilizing people who were mentally retarded, 0.97
00:14:48.500 sterilizing people who he thought were low class. He was also actually tremendously against gay rights. 0.94
00:14:56.620 Then again, almost everyone until a quarter century ago was. Spencer, I guess my point is,
00:15:01.160 it's never dawned on me to tear down a statue of Norman Bethune or Tommy Douglas. I just don't
00:15:08.120 think conservatives really do that even for statues they hate. Why does the left get a pass
00:15:14.000 on it to, to tear down things they don't like? Well, I think, uh, you know, one advantage the left
00:15:19.760 has, especially recently is how they speak with a lot of moral force. And what I mean by that is they,
00:15:25.520 they speak in such a way that they don't really even consider the fact that someone could disagree
00:15:30.840 with them respectfully, right? It's simply, look, we're on the right side of history. You're on the
00:15:34.540 wrong side of history. So get out of the way or you're evil. And I think that scares a lot of
00:15:39.100 politicians and it scares a lot of conservatives as well, who don't really, uh, you know, put the
00:15:43.480 same kind of moral force behind their statements, behind their defense of history or defense of the
00:15:48.480 country. And the problem is, you know, if you're just going to tear down these statues,
00:15:51.840 nobody is going to hold up well as history goes on, right? If that's the standard,
00:15:56.600 you know, none of us are going to hold up well, even the most progressive politicians,
00:15:59.620 as you say, Tommy Douglas considered extremely progressive at the time, but not so progressive
00:16:04.420 anymore. Right. I mean, pure Elliot Trudeau, very progressive at the time, but now, you know,
00:16:09.000 not so progressive in the light of history in the eyes of many people. So if we're just going to
00:16:13.660 pretend the past didn't happen, uh, then that, that gets very dangerous because you don't learn
00:16:17.900 anything. It would make much more sense to start putting up, I'd say, uh,
00:16:21.840 you know, put up plaques on some of these statues, go into the good that historical figures did and
00:16:26.360 the bad, you know, don't, don't whitewash history. Don't pretend it didn't happen,
00:16:30.100 but to just erase all of it and say, Oh, we're just going to tear the statue down.
00:16:33.220 If we don't like something that's, it's a very dangerous precedent to be set.
00:16:36.260 Yeah. And I think it's getting more and more extreme. I mean, when they first took, uh,
00:16:41.080 Johnny McDonald off the $10 bill, I thought, Oh, well, they're, they're saying it's to be more
00:16:46.740 inclusive with new faces. No, it was just to tear him down. And when Victoria removed the statue,
00:16:53.200 I thought, well, that's just kooky Victoria, but now Charlottetown where the fathers of
00:16:58.560 Confederation met, they're embarrassed by him. But you know what? I should tell you,
00:17:03.960 Charlottetown was named after Charlotte, the wife of King George III. And Victoria, BC is named after
00:17:12.240 Queen Victoria, BC itself, British Columbia named after Columbus. We're going to have to tear down
00:17:17.620 everything. It's, it's going to be like sports teams where the only things you can name your
00:17:23.820 sports team after are, are like animals or colors, you know, um, the Edmonton Elks or whatever. I,
00:17:32.180 I'm worried that we're going to destroy. And that's a very Maoist thing to do, to destroy everything
00:17:37.780 before you, to lose all memory, to start as if it's year zero right now. I think that this is out
00:17:44.580 of hand. And I, I'm, I'm frustrated that the police and politicians are generally silent about it.
00:17:51.400 Yeah, I think the one thing, and I think this is more for people who have studied, uh, the history
00:17:56.860 of communism, which unfortunately not enough people have, you know, our society rightfully so is very
00:18:01.680 wary of fascism because a lot of people study that and we're taught a lot about it. And so we're very
00:18:06.040 wary of anything that seems similar to it, but we don't have that same weariness when it comes to
00:18:10.260 communism, which is quite disturbing because communism of course killed far more people,
00:18:14.320 even than fascism. And, you know, if, if people are trying to replace historical memory, um, or
00:18:21.280 trying to get rid of historical memory, you have to realize that they're trying to replace that with
00:18:24.800 something, right? There's certainly a new kind of ideology that they want in place. So the question
00:18:30.200 is, what is that? And it's obviously not anything conservative or anything historical. It's obviously
00:18:34.460 going to be, you know, a very, you know, far left kind of ideology. And that's, again, we've seen
00:18:38.860 throughout history that leads to very dangerous places, right? Because when you disconnect people
00:18:43.040 from history, you disconnect them from values, you know, the traditional values that built a country.
00:18:48.860 You see that economically, right? All of a sudden, uh, the values of prudence and fiscal responsibility.
00:18:53.900 Oh no, modern monetary theory, totally new idea. We'll try that out. We don't need to be careful
00:18:57.800 with money and just, we can make it up. And so you see a lot of this happening all at once. And I think
00:19:02.320 people need to really study history and say, look, you know, this doesn't lead to anything good.
00:19:06.340 Canada is not a perfect country, but certainly compared to most countries, we've done quite well.
00:19:11.180 And I think there needs to be an understanding that as, as imperfect as our historical leaders were,
00:19:16.840 they built a country that is actually able to grapple with the past, to look at our mistakes
00:19:20.700 openly, not to try to hide from it, to acknowledge what was done wrong and to try to fix it. And I think
00:19:25.800 that that speaks well to them as well, because they built a country that could grow and change over
00:19:30.100 time. So to just throw all of that away is going to throw away kind of the exact values and the exact
00:19:35.100 things that made us the country we are today.
00:19:37.240 Yeah. I mean, I think there's a few things that come to my mind. I mean, I'm almost 50. So I look
00:19:42.220 back at my life and there's certain things that I'm so proud of at other moments that frankly, I'm not.
00:19:47.400 I think every one of us, um, has made thousands, maybe, I guess, millions of little decisions in our lives.
00:19:54.080 Some were good. Some were, were not. We had some finer moments than others. You're not going to
00:20:00.140 cancel yourself because you said something dumb 30 years ago when you were a kid. And we, and I think 0.97
00:20:06.960 there's a, that's how it's related to cancel culture. I mean, uh, you see early and earlier
00:20:12.380 people in their teens, they said something in a dumb joke and now they're a grownup and they're 0.95
00:20:17.780 being canceled for it. I think there's an analogy there. Was John A. McDonald flawed? Yeah, 0.97
00:20:23.100 every human was, but to throw out the entire history, the entire legacy, because, because of
00:20:28.960 something that in the light of 2021 looks bad, that would be like throwing out yourself because
00:20:35.440 you're embarrassed of what you did when you were a teen. It's just, it doesn't work that way. And I
00:20:39.440 think there's one more thing too, Spencer, which is it implies that there's some utopia out there.
00:20:45.260 It implies that the critics are actually better than what they're tearing down. There's, and I put it
00:20:50.620 to you there, there isn't a place better than Canada, the United States, the United Kingdom,
00:20:55.860 Australia. Show me a place that didn't have slavery in the world other than Antarctica. Every
00:21:00.760 continent had it. Show me a place that didn't have some immorality. I just think that it's a
00:21:07.020 combination of cancel culture plus thugs who never have to say what their better utopia is. I don't
00:21:13.620 know. I find it very disheartening. Yeah. A lot of it relies on historical ignorance. You know,
00:21:18.600 I think the example of the States is a good one. You see people all the time saying, oh, America,
00:21:23.680 it's just, it's a, it's a slave nation. It's all, it's all slavery, blah, blah, blah. I mean, 0.85
00:21:28.460 they fought a gigantic war between one part of the country that wanted to continue it and one part of
00:21:32.800 the country that wanted to end it. And if you look at proportionally the amount of people who died,
00:21:37.680 one of the most brutal wars in human history and the side that was opposing slavery ended up winning
00:21:43.620 and the country became a country that didn't have it. So the idea that people kind of,
00:21:47.260 they forget that or they just ignore it. Like, oh no, the States is just, it's all still slavery.
00:21:51.120 I mean, they fought a war about it. Right. So that's, that's one important thing. And then
00:21:55.120 the Canadian example is, I think a lot of what's happening is this is a tool to control people,
00:22:00.380 right? You talk about, you know, people, you can't just cancel yourself. I think that's,
00:22:04.380 that's what a lot of people on the far left are really trying to do is they're trying to scare
00:22:07.900 regular people so much and say, look, you must've said something or had some thought back sometime in
00:22:13.300 the past. That was terrible. I know we could reveal that and we could, you know, ruin your
00:22:17.060 ability to, you know, make money or to have a career. So you just better be quiet and go along
00:22:21.760 with everything we say. And it's unfortunate working on a lot of people. One way you can tell
00:22:26.080 is that when people feel, uh, you know, that they're, they're not online or they're not being
00:22:31.580 watched or they're around people they can trust, they often talk a fair bit differently than they do
00:22:35.880 in public. You know, people are not quite as politically correct, uh, behind the scenes as they are in
00:22:40.520 public. And so I think what you're seeing is a lot of people really being controlled by fear and that
00:22:44.760 never leads to a good place. You know, if you're trying to use fear to control people, then that
00:22:48.540 means you have an agenda in mind that's not really good for them. Yeah. I mean, I know that under the
00:22:53.260 Soviet, uh, Soviet bloc and in any authoritarian regime, you would have a conversation just with your
00:22:59.560 tightest, most intimate friends and family that would, when you would have real talk, you'd be
00:23:04.800 extremely careful and then you would have your public face with everyone else. And you had to be
00:23:10.400 careful. And that's why the Soviets really tried to impress on children that it was patriotic to 0.81
00:23:16.760 turn in your own family. Uh, in fact, the Soviet version of Boy Scouts, the young pioneers, they
00:23:22.080 made their hero, Pavel Morozov, informant number one, this young, uh, children of Ukrainian farmer
00:23:29.060 peasants who, uh, according to the mythology, turned in his own family for criticizing Stalin.
00:23:36.280 Every single Soviet Boy Scout for 60 years, 50 years wore a little pin of this guy on their chest.
00:23:44.800 The government was trying to break up the secrecy and privacy of even families. There's a terrible
00:23:51.120 precedent here. Let me ask you, I'm just so sorry to see it come alive again. Can you name for me
00:23:57.040 a leader, a politician, maybe with the exception of Jordan Peterson, can you name maybe an elected
00:24:03.960 politician anywhere in North America who's speaking out against cancel culture in a way that
00:24:09.280 is making a difference? Well, I'd say the closest, and again, you know, we've been very critical of
00:24:15.520 him, you know, conservatives, people across the spectrum have been critical of him. A lot of other
00:24:20.180 issues, but Jason Kenney, I think is, he's done a little more than anybody recently for, certainly far
00:24:25.280 more than Aaron O'Toole, I would say, uh, to, to push back on that. And the reason, you know,
00:24:30.580 we focus on conservatives is we don't even expect anything like that from Justin Trudeau or Jagmeet
00:24:35.260 Singh, right? No one expects them to push back on that. They're pushing the other way. So you kind
00:24:39.920 of, you almost criticize the people who you at least have some hope would push back. And Jason
00:24:43.400 Kenney has done that somewhat and he received a lot of blowback for it. His problem is that, you know,
00:24:48.260 conservatives are so angry at him for many other things with lockdowns and restrictions that he's not
00:24:52.700 really getting too much backup. But on that, he has pushed back. But overall, you know, it's,
00:24:56.380 it's, this is a big problem is the conservatives, they keep kind of giving into the left wing
00:25:01.820 narrative and they keep, it's like, you know, Lucy with the football, you know, this time it'll be
00:25:07.200 enough. This time we'll go far left enough and they'll finally, they'll accept us and the media
00:25:11.740 will like us and the left wing groups will say that you guys are okay. And of course it just gets
00:25:16.200 moved, right? It's never going to be enough. And so I think they need to realize that and start
00:25:20.100 pushing back. And the other thing is, you know, I think a lot of injustice is being done
00:25:23.860 to the indigenous community as well. And it's, it's the idea that people seem to act as if one
00:25:29.760 group speaks for all indigenous people, right? I mean, there's a lot of varied indigenous groups
00:25:33.860 in the country. A lot of people with very different perspectives, different views on, you know,
00:25:38.020 tradition, different views on the future. And that doesn't really get expressed that much,
00:25:43.660 right? As you see with the, you know, energy sector projects, when a group supports development or
00:25:47.760 the oil industry, they just get attacked. Oh, you're just tools of the oil companies, right?
00:25:52.200 But when a group says, oh yeah, we're against all development, oh, the media is all over, you know,
00:25:55.940 political parties are all over it. So I think that's unfortunate as well. We're really kind
00:26:00.000 of stereotyping indigenous people by letting just some people speak for all of them.
00:26:04.220 Yeah. Well, very thoughtful comments. So Spencer, it's great to talk to you.
00:26:08.000 Thanks for taking the time today. Your column again is called, Why Are We Letting Mobs 1.00
00:26:11.480 Decide Which Statues Get to Stand? And, and let me close, let me say thank you to you,
00:26:16.100 Spencer. But let me close by playing a clip of Jason Kenney standing up for these statues,
00:26:22.440 including of John A. MacDonald. I have been very critical of Jason Kenney over the lockdown,
00:26:26.360 but I accept your point, Spencer, that, that Jason Kenney has stood up against these iconoclasts,
00:26:33.860 these statue smashers. So let me end this segment by throwing to a clip of Jason Kenney saying
00:26:41.240 that. I'll say goodbye to you now, Spencer, but here's a clip of Jason Kenney.
00:26:44.320 I think Canada is worth celebrating. I think Canada is a great historical achievement.
00:26:50.740 It is a country that people all around the world seek to join as new Canadians. It is an imperfect
00:26:56.800 country, but it is still a great country, just as John MacDonald was an imperfect man, but was still a
00:27:02.140 great leader. If we want to get into cancelling every figure in our history who had, who took positions
00:27:12.780 on issues at the time that we now judge harshly and rightly in historical retrospective, but if that's the new standard,
00:27:20.520 then I think almost the entire founding leadership of our country gets cancelled.
00:27:25.660 Tommy Douglas, who recommended the use of eugenics to sterilize the weak, as he said,
00:27:33.340 to, if we talk about members of the famous five heroes of Canadian feminism and the fight for equality for women,
00:27:42.720 some of them were advocates of eugenics that we would now regard as deplorable.
00:27:49.300 So if we go full force into cancel culture, then we're cancelling most, if not all, of our history. 0.96
00:27:58.760 Instead, I think we should learn from our history. We should learn from our achievements, but also our failures.
00:28:04.640 Canada is doing that, just as we, as Prime Minister Harper, made the official apology for the terrible injustice of the Indian residential school system. 0.97
00:28:16.680 Just as the government of Canada provided over $3.5 billion in compensation to residential school survivors as a symbol of restitution.
00:28:29.100 And just as Canada has addressed other historic injustices, which we seek to reflect in the draft K-12, K-6, pardon me, social studies curriculum in far more profound ways than ever before.
00:28:44.120 So I think it's much better that we learn from our history, including those periods of great injustice, without seeking to cancel our history.
00:28:54.960 I think we need to know more about it.
00:28:59.100 Hey, welcome back on my show on Friday. Akira writes,
00:29:11.060 Of course, China laughs at all decent humanity. 1.00
00:29:14.600 Well, of course, you're talking about them laughing at any commemoration of the Tiananmen Square Massacre.
00:29:20.940 They're laughing because they want to trivialize it.
00:29:23.420 They're laughing because they want to profane it.
00:29:25.360 They want to turn it into a joke.
00:29:27.700 Ossianator says, Tank Man will live forever, never forget.
00:29:32.940 Well, I think we have forgotten.
00:29:34.600 As I noted on my noontime show today, Justin Trudeau made a D-Day statement yesterday, except for he didn't mention D-Day.
00:29:42.440 He didn't mention World War II.
00:29:44.140 He didn't mention the invasion of Normandy.
00:29:46.520 The word gender appeared.
00:29:48.520 The word pandemic and COVID-19 appeared.
00:29:51.180 And he talked about sexual misconduct about five times.
00:29:54.720 That was his message on D-Day.
00:29:56.620 He never actually said D-Day.
00:29:58.240 And my point is, if we can forget such an important day in our history, of course, we're going to forget that important day in China's history, too.
00:30:08.020 John writes,
00:30:08.520 Yeah, literally today, Pastor James Coates lost his charter challenge to have his freedom of religion, and it was stamped by the authority of the state.
00:30:23.540 A judge said, no, we can violate your rights.
00:30:26.320 I'm sure there's judges in China that rubber stamp it, too.
00:30:30.100 I think the differences between us and China are getting harder to enumerate every day.
00:30:34.920 That's our show.
00:30:35.760 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.
00:30:41.480 We'll see you next time.