00:00:30.300well well well it's another rebel roundup on friday october 30th with uh new hosts
00:00:58.640Actually, I'm usually here on Fridays, but usually my colleague David the Menzoid Menzies is hosting the show.
00:01:05.620So me and my colleague Tamara Leach are going to do that instead.0.99
00:01:08.960We're going to tag team it. How are you doing, Tamara?
00:01:11.780I'm doing great. As you know, I just got back from Manitoba, so I'm all settled back in here and ready to get at her.
00:01:17.980It was a nice six weeks out in beautiful Manitoba, but I'm glad to be back and in my own bed.
00:01:23.220Yes. You know, I love that you're able to work during the time of house arrest so that you can appreciate being home. Otherwise, you would probably feel, you know, very trapped there.
00:01:36.600Yes. Yes, exactly. No, I've been very fortunate in that regard, for sure.
00:01:41.060So happy. We have some really good guests. But before we get there, I want to do a little bit of housekeeping.
00:01:47.240being. Number one, I want to talk about our rebel lives because Calgary, that conference is happening
00:01:53.320tomorrow. So I think there's still a couple of seats left. I don't think there's many. But in
00:01:59.180case you missed it, the rebel lives are amazing. You get around like minded people, you hear good
00:02:03.940speak speakers come together. And I don't know, I feel like every time I go to these conservative
00:02:08.320conferences, number one, you realize you're not alone. That's always a good thing. And then you
00:02:12.600just feel motivated like not as hopeless so you can go to rebelnewslive.com to grab your tickets
00:02:20.160for calgary tomorrow and then two weeks after that in my neck of the woods we are having our
00:02:27.380vancouver lower mainland uh rebel live so if you're in that area if you're anywhere from
00:02:33.980abbotsford to vancouver grab your tickets because there's still some tickets left there too
00:05:40.720And I think there's a resolve within that reflectiveness to figure out how we do the job that British companies have elected us to do now, which is its official opposition.
00:05:49.940You know, there's no sugarcoating it. It was a tough day.
00:05:54.900And if you read closely there, Katie DeRosa with the CBC, she claims, so she was there, so perhaps it just didn't get caught or clipped or whatever.
00:06:04.620She claims that Nikki Sharma is not ruling out running or trying to be the premier, taking David Evie's job.
00:06:12.520What do you guys make of that? I'm going to start with you, Kat.
00:06:15.260Well, I wonder if she will be able to tolerate the unbearable levels of whiteness that happened0.84
00:06:22.140in this election, because there was a post from, I'm not sure how many years ago, that resurfaced
00:06:29.660where she's complaining about literally, quote, the unbearable levels of whiteness of the election.
00:06:35.500So, you know, that's, I'm not sure how she'll be able to tolerate that. I think, I don't even
00:06:44.140think she should be showing her face after that has resurfaced in my opinion. I think it's so
00:06:49.420disgraceful what she said. I think she should disappear but you can't ever you know expect
00:06:55.740the NDP to self-reflect and to take any kind of accountability for an egregious statement like
00:07:03.260that and you just know that if any of us said anything even remotely close in that vein and
00:11:24.880And as both Wyatt and Kat said, you know, if it had been one of us that had made a comment like that the other way, we would be probably charged with mischief and under house arrest by now.
00:11:36.300Oh, definitely hate crime if it was said the other way.
00:11:39.200Now, there is an interim leader that has been appointed, Jennifer Whiteside.
00:11:44.700I think we have a little clip of that as well.
00:12:38.400But if we go in there, they're clapping, they're cheering.
00:12:42.320He's saying something else is going on.
00:12:44.900He says, new, I've been informed by a reliable source within the BCNDP that there is massive internal outrage over caucus decision to publicly recommend Jennifer Whiteside as interim leader before the provincial council approved.
00:13:01.380And if you go down just quickly to, it's actually a whole thread.
00:13:07.280But I guess he's gone through their policies.
00:13:09.520And he says, per the B.C. NDP Constitution, in order for Whiteside to be interim leader, she must be confirmed by the provincial council.
00:13:19.920All right. So, Wyatt, do you have more of a scoop on this? Is it true? Is the NDP party in absolute turmoil?
00:13:27.420I do believe later on it was updated that the council kind of begrudgingly approved Whiteside because to not at that point, you're effectively trying to start a fight between caucus and the party board.
00:13:38.680But let's be clear, in BC politics, it's been a very, very long time since any of the parties have been respecting processes or who's supposed to be leader under what rules. So this is really just a continuation of how things have been going in that province for a very long time.
00:13:54.880I want to go back to one topic I think we somewhat skipped over earlier, but my goodness, who was in the room when David Eby called this election? That really needs to have an entire book written on it, just a fly-on-the-wall book transcript of what people were actually saying and how they were convincing themselves that this was going to work.
00:14:17.060because i think if you actually get to the bottom of that you'll probably understand why certain
00:14:21.420people in the party aren't listening to each other anymore because there are people in the party who
00:14:25.380probably said that this is a foolish idea and others who thought that this was going to somehow
00:14:30.040like be gangbusters and they were going to have a majority of adc's or something like that after
00:14:35.120all this because i feel like everyone on this panel as soon as we heard david eby was calling
00:14:39.280election we all knew he was probably going to lose because even even justin trudeau up against
00:14:45.800erin o'toole somehow still basically didn't change the only got a minority government despite the
00:14:52.160fact that he was leading erin o'toole by like eight or nine points in the polls simply because
00:14:56.520when you call an early election people hate your guts they don't want early elections well i am so
00:15:02.900happy that trump derangement i think played a role in that i think they i think evie and i guess
00:15:09.200whichever ones in the party thought perhaps they could pull this off they saw how weak at the
00:15:14.260moment the conservative was they didn't even have a leader at the moment after that hostile takeout
00:15:19.060of Carrie Lynn Finley and so he sees this opportunity and he thought he could just run
00:15:24.580the coattails take the same playbook out of Mark Carney and just make it all about Trump but the
00:15:31.380voters didn't buy that what about you Kat what do you think was the main thing that contributed to
00:15:38.540this? Like, why do you think EB did this? My humble opinion is that the NDP does not live
00:15:44.120in reality. They're completely out of touch with what British Columbians are concerned with.
00:15:49.220They're so obsessed with things like Soji in schools, you know, pride for, you know, pride
00:15:57.200season and all the woke nonsense that they're obsessed with that they don't understand that
00:16:02.580everything they've been doing has been really hurting British Columbians. And finally, the
00:16:07.880British Columbians have started to realize that it's the NDP policies that are hurting the standards
00:16:11.940of living uh you know the pricing the the economy in here and so I think they're just so out of
00:16:19.200touch that they thought they're untouchable either that or he just has a really bad advisor on his
00:16:25.640team who said yeah this is a good idea do a snap election and let the timing of it be just like a
00:16:32.480week away from local municipal elections do you guys remember the amount of signs that would be
00:16:37.500seen on like street corners and roadsides it was so confusing so i think it's just their levels of
00:16:44.260delusion that got them there and i'm so glad i'm so glad they're out too and the amount of voters
00:16:49.460that came out with less than last time i think that played into it that he called an election
00:16:53.420during the municipal election which um upset many cities as well for the reasons that you mentioned
00:16:58.900as well um so it's not going to be an easy job for the conservatives they inherited that 14
00:17:06.440billion dollar uh deficit uh if we pull up a commitment there on how they're going to have
00:17:13.420to oh i just saw it and now i lost it with my eyes but if we want to put that on the screen
00:17:17.380um oh let me see anyways how do you think they're going to get out of that mess or or can they
00:17:26.200well here's kind of the problem with so at the start of the of this stream you said that
00:17:33.580bc has turned blue the one problem is i would argue that it has turned blue with red stripes
00:17:39.440running diagonally through it the issue we have here is that who did the british columbia people
00:17:46.440elect now there are some really solid conservative mlas in the bc conservative party but i'm
00:17:52.800wondering if the mix and the ratio is not so that what you're going to get out of the oven in terms
00:17:58.680of policy is not really what voters or base conservatives would have expected there is not
00:18:04.160even just some pre-existing good mlas you know of course heather moz is a very good mla uh sheldon
00:18:09.340claire anna kindy some new people on the scene who i i respect as very you know orthodox conservative
00:18:16.020type people bert shannon couch and valley uh joshua domnich in burnaby center is very good
00:18:22.460But you also get people like Tracy St. Clair in Penticton Summerlands, who is a pro-SOGI liberal who is now a proud conservative.
00:18:34.120And, you know, that is the story behind a lot of the conservative MLAs.
00:18:38.920So when it comes to things like the deficit, I'm wondering if this is going to become a bit of a Doug Ford approach to conservative governance, where we basically manage an NDP budget a little better than the NDP would.
00:18:53.340Because even in the Conservatives' own estimates on the budget, they're still going to be in deficit after four years, I think to the tune of like $10 billion because they didn't really run on cutting anything and they didn't really run on doing any big tax measures other than increasing the personal exemption.
00:19:10.240so the thing that like i think what conservative members of the bc conservative party have to do
00:19:17.000in that province right now is you have to be constantly watching your mla and making sure
00:19:23.120they're delivering on the things that you want because like in ontario you can elect a conservative
00:19:28.540and even be in for multiple terms but you look back and you wonder what really changed from
00:19:33.980Kathleen Wynne, other than the speed that bad policy is driving down the road. That's something0.94
00:19:40.700that we need to be careful with. So even Lorne Dirksen, one of the first things he said at his
00:19:44.220press conference, and I hope he gets rid of it, but when he was asked about DRIPA, which the
00:19:48.780Conservative Party for a year had been putting pressure on the NDP to repeal, just to a full
00:19:53.840repeal, when they asked him, what are you going to do about it? He said, well, we might deal with
00:19:57.520it in the spring session, and they are having a fall session. So, you know, maybe Dallas Brody
00:20:01.740you will have to come to the legislature and do a clinic on how to delete DRIPA.
00:20:06.740Here you take it and you put in the shredder and you shred the thing and you leave it alone
00:20:10.960after that, rather than what I'm wondering is if they're going to come up with a reconciliation
00:20:15.320act like Peter Milibar had run on and Lauren Dirksen was one of his endorsers and use this
00:20:21.120as like the sort of like olive branch, like we'll get rid of DRIPA, but don't worry,
00:20:24.980we'll replace it with a slightly less bad version of DRIPA.
00:20:27.860But if that becomes the direction of the government, I hope that they don't overdose on pragmatism and they realize right now you have the ability to do full fat reform, even if you didn't run on it.
00:20:39.140I think you're right. I think the B.C. conservatives are a coalition, a big tent, if you will. We'll see how well that works out as they go on.
00:20:47.280I think we'll probably see a little friction, but nevertheless, it's way better than the government that we had.
00:20:53.220And like you said, there are actual conservatives within that party.
00:20:58.000Now, one thing I am going to miss is, you know, Dallas Brody lost her seat.
00:21:02.2801BC is not going to be in the legislature.0.99
00:21:05.580And there was a little bit of a pullback.1.00
00:21:07.200I loved where Dallas Brody or independent Tara Armstrong would bring forth something
00:21:14.260that matters to British Columbians, but is a little bit controversial.
00:21:17.980For example, 1BC, you guys brought forward the, hey, let's stop compelled land acknowledgements.
00:24:21.320I mean, is it a coincidence or is it the fact that there's a new sheriff in town
00:24:26.340and that relates to the Cowichan decision,
00:24:29.460Very concerning decision that was in the works for an entire decade. Most of you know about that by now. And that is the fact that private property rights in Richmond, for some people, have aboriginal title that is superior, whatever the heck that means to them.
00:24:45.700And so as the EB government was saying it was going to be appealing, now that's going to be the conservative government. We see just after the conservatives had their landslide win that the Cowichan's lawyers reached out and said, OK, we want to come up with a plan to protect private property rights.
00:25:06.380One of the things that's crazy about that is we were told we were being conspiracy theorists when we were saying private property rights were at risk.
00:25:15.360And one of the things I said was, hey, if they don't want us to be worried about private property rights, why didn't it just say they're safe and protected in it?
00:25:23.840So now we see this. What do you make of that, Kat?
00:25:27.100Do you think there's already a little bit of a shift in the right direction?
00:25:53.240It's so difficult. It's so difficult. And people are fleeing the province because investments
00:25:58.580fleeing the province because everything was under just such a big question mark with all this land
00:26:02.840title stuff so i certainly do hope it's in the right direction yeah absolutely now wyatt you
00:26:08.580alluded to this and that is um you know repealing drippa and i would add to that repealing soji
00:26:14.580like dallas said these things need to happen um my understanding is that the party is saying they
00:26:19.500they're going to start with soji and then like you said maybe um next term is when they would
00:26:24.680start with drippa what i'm concerned about is these these names that now the public is familiar
00:26:31.640about. I mean, I remember trying to report on UNDRIP. I've been reporting on it for five years
00:26:36.220and we'd have to over explain what it was because no one knew what it was. And now it just rolls
00:26:40.920off the tongue. Like people are saying UNDRIP, they're saying DRIPA, they're saying SOGI.
00:26:44.660So people know these terms. My concern is they're going to think that because these are repealed,
00:26:50.580that the problem is completely solved. And for both SOGI and DRIPA, it isn't. There is still
00:26:55.720issues entrenched when it comes to gender ideology, the flexibility of activist teachers
00:27:02.320to bring in their own resources, which I suspect is going to be almost like a pushback thing too,0.76
00:27:09.280because it already happens. And then with DRIPA, we still have over 200 First Nations
00:27:16.420battling it out for over 100% of the province. So after they take these steps, what do you think
00:27:24.740the actual solution is, Wyatt, or what should they be doing next? The one thing that they need
00:27:29.680to be very careful about is don't give in to the photo op handshake with certain stakeholders to
00:27:37.220pretend like the problem has been solved. So people may have seen in the news, Grand Chief
00:27:42.900Stuart Phillip, which is, I believe, a self-given title. It doesn't actually even mean anything,
00:27:47.100but he tends to be a bit of a ringleader of a lot of the very left-wing sort of activist0.74
00:27:53.080banned councils but stuart phillip came out and he said well we will go to war if drippa
00:27:59.340is you know is repealed so what lauren dirksen and the government need to very much not do and
00:28:06.300this is the thing that worries me because a lot i can see a lot of conservatives uh around the
00:28:11.240country and in different uh you know in different situations would like the easy way out you just
00:28:16.220got to push through and do a full repeal of drippa don't replace it with a peter millibar
00:28:21.180reconciliation act that fixes some of the problems but leaves a bunch of them in place because
00:28:25.520people did not people don't want slightly less problems they want the problems eliminated and
00:28:31.200so what you don't want to see is in six months that they're delaying this to spring uh just doing
00:28:36.140a straight repeal of drippa because they're going to replace it with something and they're going to
00:28:39.120get that in place first so they can have their big handshake photo op with steward phillips
00:28:43.580avoid it just scrap it with soji don't replace it with your own anti-bullying regime that leaves
00:28:51.160certain aspects of soji in place but gets rid of the name okay we'll get the dirty books out of the
00:28:56.140schools but we didn't really do anything to stop counselors from suggesting to children that they
00:29:00.520might be the opposite sex that's the thing that you really need to hammer down on and so that's
00:29:06.520where caucus management will be very key for the conservatives there are people heather maz is a
00:29:12.140great example who would absolutely scrap soji 100 and then there are other people i remember
00:29:18.960whenever soji was brought up in the legislature would get viscerally angry in that caucus because
00:29:23.520they think that you're a bigot for not wanting to teach children gender theory in the classroom
00:29:28.940and so that's going to be a strange balancing act so in a certain sense i actually suspect there
00:29:35.080will be an internal civil war inside the bc conservative party if they actually decide to
00:29:40.160be conservative because there are some people who didn't sign up for that even though the branding
00:29:43.700on the party says conservative and i would add that they would need to sorry to interrupt i would
00:29:49.420add that the the bc conservatives would need to pass additional policies that would outright ban
00:29:55.400teaching this stuff not just repealing what has been repealed but like why it said to make no more
00:29:59.760room for gender ideology to be pushed onto our children through any backdoor channels like the
00:30:05.040anti-bullying stuff because our children should not be exposed to this stuff as a mother i'm very
00:30:10.340concerned and I want I would want them to take a much harder stance against this not just by
00:30:14.700repealing but passing additional policies that would prevent anyone from teaching gender ideology
00:30:19.720to our children. Yeah we've got critical race theory cultural Marxism is just running rampant
00:30:24.640in the schools and one of the things the BC Conservatives is saying is they want to increase
00:30:28.920what parents are actually knowing about what's going on in school and their ability to opt out
00:30:34.400That caused, I believe it was the Surrey Teachers Association to have like an absolute heart attack and come out ahead of voting time to try and get their members not to vote for Conservative and 1BC.
00:30:48.680One of the reasons that they actually listed like it was a threat was the fact that they want to go ahead and have parents be more involved in their child's education.
00:30:58.240Very concerning. So happy that the NDP is not in government. Happy that Dallas Brody is still going to be trying to hold the Conservatives accountable. I'm rooting for the Conservatives. I will be covering what they're doing. And I hope they don't make me do critical reports on them like I had to do with John Rustad. I hope everything goes good, too.
00:31:18.540I do need to bring up this one point just to demonstrate also the influence that Dallas Brody has had. It's not just within British Columbia that she's kind of forced the Conservatives to be more active on SOGI and DRIPA.
00:31:29.980Even during the election campaign, the Conservatives' original tax plan was just we're not going to hike taxes.
00:31:35.480And then after we made fun of it for like a week that we're going to keep all the NDP taxes in place, that's when they came out with this scheme where we're going to more than double the personal exemption to give everyone a thousand bucks, which, in my opinion, still isn't exactly a supply side economics.
00:31:50.360You actually want to lower the high end brackets because B.C. is a very top heavy tax system.
00:31:57.280But Dallas and the one B and one B.C. pushing back on land acknowledgments has had the effect of having the UCP have of banning land acknowledgments in public institutions as one of its policies that's going to be voted on at the AGM this November.
00:32:13.400I guarantee that would not be happening unless 1BC had been really hammering on that issue, because Alberta is an instinctually conservative province, but I don't think that issue was on most people's radars.
00:32:24.500It was considered, it's nice, sure, just do a land acknowledgement before every session of the legislature, before certain official events.
00:32:31.680And I think Dallas made the good point of, like, you cannot do this.
00:32:35.280this is sort of grooming people into the idea that they don't really own the land or they don't
00:32:40.300really have a connection to this place that they may have been their family may have been growing
00:32:44.340up in for generations really it's you're still kind of a guest here and we always have to be
00:32:49.240acknowledging the true owners even though there's literally treaties all over Alberta but we still
00:32:55.380do this anyways and I think that that's been a big effect of Dallas of shifting the culture of
00:33:00.400canada away from just kind of mindlessly accepting reconciliation practices as being like the default
00:33:08.080at the same time we don't even do the national anthem in schools or in our public institutions
00:33:12.840i've had parents complain about the fact that it starts with the land acknowledgement then it goes
00:33:18.920into the national anthem but yeah 1bc did their documentary making a killing which exposed the
00:33:25.740reconciliation industry and further expose the false 215 unmarked grave discovery claim. I am
00:33:32.020of the belief that because we saw Canada concede to us being a genocidal nation through residential0.81
00:33:39.820schools after the mass unproven clandestine unmarked grave claims, because we saw them
00:33:46.240actually agree to that without any evidence, I think had it not been, you know, for reporting
00:33:51.940at rebel news for years on this documentaries like that francis whittleson i truly believe the push
00:33:57.800to have residential school denialism uh criminalize put me in jail i think that perhaps people afraid
00:34:05.620of being called a racist in our leadership position would have actually allowed that to
00:34:10.720happen i really believe that if there weren't voices out there calling the light and the people
00:34:16.300paying attention i don't know maybe reports like that and the documentaries like that probably have
00:34:21.740saved the country tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars because it was even revealed
00:34:26.440in a black locks reporter release that internally after the kamloops 215 claim the government
00:34:32.140basically just said we're going to have to start paying out money because they have a giant trump
00:34:35.920card here whenever we're not going to agree to some sort of settlement or some extra grant or
00:34:41.480whatever they're going to just slap this card down and basically say hey there was a genocide
00:34:45.900involving mass graves of children that literally led to lots and lots of money exiting the door
00:34:51.720And it's not just about excavations and whatnot. Just lots of money, just without question, just started leaving. But once this starts becoming obviously kind of a hoax, maybe it started off with people believing that it was actually real and they were doing it in good faith. Eventually it became bad faith. And it actually, as much as these bureaucrats in the federal government and other provincial governments might be default liberals or NDP types, even now they can at least basically ignore that and skate over it because it's now like proven to
00:35:21.340probably very 99 likely not be true and you no longer have to basically give out guilt money
00:35:28.360when there's no reason to do it well uh we have to take a break and we're going to say goodbye
00:35:35.120to you guys but before we do so cat canada why don't you tell people where they can find more
00:35:41.140from you sure um i'm on all the major social platforms under the handle at cat canada underscore
00:35:49.400tm you can find me on x formerly known as twitter instagram facebook and even threads which is woke
00:35:56.060twitter uh and youtube as well that's where people can find my work well i'm not on woke twitter yet
00:36:02.340and wyatt how about yourself if they just search my name on things they'll probably find me i'm not
00:36:07.860on instagram or anything like that just facebook youtube and x i'm too i'm much of an old man in a
00:41:57.240Economists polled by Reuters ahead of the release predicted a 0.2% growth for August.
00:42:03.660Wholesale trade and the public sector were problem areas. Wholesale trade fell by 1.4% in August, as most subsectors contracted. And then it goes on to say, I mean, many are saying we are basically already on decline. And I think we're all feeling it. But what do you think, Tamara?
00:42:25.700well i think so too and i i think you know all you have to do is go and visit a grocery store
00:42:31.240and or as i said visit a food bank our economy is not doing well canadians are suffering um
00:42:39.660look at the look at our streets i mean homelessness uh in canada used to be something
00:42:45.140that you would only see in the big big centers like vancouver and toronto for example and now
00:42:50.100you know we have a we have a massive homeless problem here in medicine hat which is just a
00:42:55.120small city of 80 000 people um but you're also seeing it in in smaller communities um that's
00:43:01.300happening too so you know um it's concerning where it's going i mean put a tank of gas uh in your
00:43:08.580vehicle for example i mean the price of everything is going up wages are not increasing um jobs are
00:43:16.160declining and so i think we're in big big trouble uh yes you are definitely preaching to the choir
00:43:22.320on here everybody knows about Vancouver's downtown east side it's got to be the worst in the country
00:43:26.860but same things happening out here now the suburbs in the lower mainland greater Vancouver
00:43:32.040we're also seeing camps as well the shelters can't handle it either I did some interviews
00:43:38.200with people in an encampment in Richmond it was interesting hearing their stories about why
00:43:43.200they're homeless and they were basically saying well you know why pay why pay for all of this
00:43:49.200I mean, they claimed that they're not addicts and they're just living in the bush in trailers.
00:43:55.220One lady had four different trailers out there in the bush and one even caught fire, obviously causing great concern for the community.
00:44:03.960But they're saying we're living here because it's too expensive to do it any other way.
00:44:08.680So I think we are probably seeing more and more people like that.
00:44:12.000As for gas, it's been over $2 until just before the election for a minute there.
00:51:11.060um there's a lot going on in surrey it's a little bit of a nightmare i know people are leaving we've
00:51:17.460had the extortion shootings going on there's people afraid to let their kids go out and
00:51:21.780um you know just scooter because there's essentially drive-by shootings and they're
00:51:26.580recording it and putting it on tiktok i mean it's just simply out of control there
00:51:31.760absolutely and you know a huge part of the problem is the um you know catch and release policy you
00:51:39.420You know, these people could could get charged and just end up back on the street in a matter of days with nothing more than having their hands slapped.
00:51:47.760This is a huge, huge problem that we're seeing all across Canada, not just in B.C.
00:51:53.260And I think obviously you heard about the the shooting in Toronto.
00:51:57.140I think that was yesterday or the day before where that CEO and his two daughters and his wife were shot.
00:52:07.820So, you know, it's, but I think that a big part of the problem is that there's no deterrent for a lot of these criminals anymore.
00:52:15.500I mean, unless you're charged with mischief in Canada now, you can basically get away with just about anything.
00:52:22.280Speaking of getting away with just about anything, the co-lead counsel of the Emergencies Act Inquiry is now an Ontario Superior Court judge.
00:52:36.360I don't know if I can pronounce her name. Shantona Shadhuri helped lead the inquiry that found the threshold for invoking the Emergencies Act was met, which the courts so far have said, shouldn't have happened. Justice Minister Sean Fraser has now made her a superior court judge.
00:52:56.580We see this over and over. These controversial decisions are made. They trample on our rights and they get a promotion after. I saw that with the ostrich farm, too. The head of the CFIA that has also gotten a promotion. But yeah, Tamara, I'm sure you have something to say about this.
00:53:14.780well you know to be honest she i didn't think she did too bad of a job at the poec i mean she did
00:53:21.680under her examinations and cross examinations ask some really tough questions i mean as far as some
00:53:26.820of the lawyers that were present uh for the government at the poec she was by far i would
00:53:31.800say my favorite um however i mean if you can have a favorite in that situation i guess but
00:53:37.600i would say i felt that she was sort of trying to be the most fair um but you're absolutely right
00:53:44.920in most cases uh we just watch you know these people fail upwards and um so that that seems to
00:53:52.860be uh the liberal way yeah absolutely and i think what's the latest with all that you know
00:53:59.520um it's the government is trying to fight the last decision right over the emergency that's right
00:54:05.960Yeah, they are. And, you know, I spoke the night before they handed down the decision last week, I did speak with one of our lawyers, I never actually thought I'd have so many lawyers in my life. However, here we are. I was chatting with Brendan Miller. And I said, Do you think that the Supreme Court is going to hear this case? And he explained to me that they have to under Section 40 of the Supreme Court Act. And once I read that section, it did make sense. They do have to hear it because it's, you know, in the public interest.
00:54:34.540This is a very important case. However, him and another lawyer both said that there's not a good chance.
00:54:42.320Well, there's not much hope that they will win based on the fact that four judges in Canada have already found that the invocation of the Emergencies Act was unconstitutional and unreasonable and unjustified.
00:54:55.040So, but I mean, that said, we have a Supreme Court Chief Justice who has an obvious bias against the Freedom Convoy and that protest. And I think he needs to do the right thing and recuse himself. As I posted the other day, you know, trust in the Canadian judiciary system is eroding fast for reasons that we were just talking about.
00:55:17.880And I think the Chief Justice has an opportunity here to try and remedy that and repair some of that by recusing himself from hearing this particular case.
00:55:32.900I think nobody loves them some Chief Justice Richard Wagner more than Chief Justice Richard Wagner.
00:55:39.400Well, I would like to see him recuse himself, too.
00:55:42.380And you're right. The faith in the Justice Center was so disheartening reporting over and over and over and just coming to the realization we really do not have constitutional rights, especially if you are of amongst the politically incorrect, if you will.
00:55:58.820So I have seen and reported on a couple of wins now that it's like five or more years later.