Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ After pressuring millions of people to take the Moderna vaccine, Ontario’s government warns against it

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00:00:58.040 Tonight, after pressuring millions of people to take the Moderna vaccine,

00:01:02.940 Ontario's government is now warning people not to take the Moderna vaccine.

00:01:07.740 It's September 30th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:10.580 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:16.480 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:20.540 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it

00:01:24.060 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:26.420 I saw this story in the newspaper USA Today.

00:01:34.840 Actually, I saw it on their Twitter account.

00:01:37.580 While it's true you can naturally acquire immunity

00:01:39.920 against an offending invader like a bacteria or virus,

00:01:44.040 experts say natural immunity provides less protection

00:01:48.640 against the new variants than the vaccine.

00:01:50.860 So that's the mainstream media.

00:01:53.560 It's one of the largest newspapers in America,

00:01:55.620 and they cite experts.

00:01:58.620 Except I don't trust the mainstream media much at all.

00:02:01.840 In fact, I assume that anything of consequence, they say,

00:02:05.600 anything important is either misleading or downright untrue,

00:02:08.520 or simply an unmarked ad for some part of the establishment.

00:02:12.480 But seriously, is there any group in society

00:02:15.800 who has done more to torch their reputation for honesty

00:02:18.580 and independence and non-partisanship

00:02:20.540 than public health experts?

00:02:23.820 That USA Today report was from mid-August.

00:02:28.320 And then two weeks later, this massive study out of Israel

00:02:31.140 said the exact opposite, that naturally acquired immunity,

00:02:34.620 that is getting sick and then naturally recovering

00:02:36.360 thanks to your body's immune system,

00:02:38.800 that's actually much better than vaccine immunity.

00:02:41.400 Don't take my word for it.

00:02:42.720 Take the word for the massive study

00:02:44.440 published by the British Medical Journal.

00:02:46.960 So, were those USA Today public health experts lying?

00:02:53.680 Did they know they were misleading people?

00:02:56.700 I doubt it.

00:02:57.520 They probably believed every word they said.

00:02:59.980 There's a difference between a lie,

00:03:01.880 and sorry to use a gentle swear here,

00:03:04.580 between a lie and bullshit. 0.52

00:03:07.040 I really recommend this tiny book to you.

00:03:10.220 It's called On Bullshit.

00:03:12.140 I'm sorry, I'm going to say that word about four more times.

00:03:14.780 The book is by a professor named Harry Frankfurt.

00:03:18.200 I've probably ordered 20 copies of that book over time

00:03:20.780 to give out to people,

00:03:22.140 especially bullshitters I meet.

00:03:23.460 I thought for sure I had an extra copy of it lying around my office

00:03:26.500 so I was going to hold it up, but I don't.

00:03:27.640 I guess I'd give it away.

00:03:28.680 You can just see it online here.

00:03:30.120 It's such a mini book.

00:03:31.340 It's so small.

00:03:32.620 You can read it in like half an hour.

00:03:34.340 It's not even a book, really.

00:03:35.220 It's a big pamphlet.

00:03:36.860 But let me just read a few lines from the book's promo,

00:03:39.180 and you get a flavor for it.

00:03:42.360 Frankfurt proceeds by exploring

00:03:45.200 how bullshit and the related concept of humbug

00:03:49.400 are distinct from lying.

00:03:51.440 He argues that bullshitters misrepresent themselves

00:03:54.700 to their audience not as liars do,

00:03:57.380 that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true.

00:04:00.900 In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

00:04:04.940 Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves

00:04:07.660 without being concerned about whether anything at all is true.

00:04:11.520 They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation

00:04:14.620 so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

00:04:18.740 Frankfurt concludes that,

00:04:20.340 although bullshit can take many innocent forms,

00:04:23.960 excessive indulgence in it

00:04:26.180 can eventually undermine the practitioner's capacity

00:04:29.200 to tell the truth in a way that lying does not.

00:04:32.160 Liars at least acknowledge that it matters what is true.

00:04:35.640 By virtue of this, Frankfurt writes,

00:04:37.800 bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are.

00:04:42.480 Isn't that interesting?

00:04:43.540 It's a great little book.

00:04:44.940 I really, really recommend it.

00:04:46.180 You can get it on Amazon.

00:04:47.000 It's just a few bucks.

00:04:48.760 Do you see the difference between bullshit and lying?

00:04:51.420 I really don't think the USA Today or the experts who they quoted were lying

00:04:56.440 or thought they were lying.

00:04:59.160 I don't think they were.

00:05:00.420 I think they just knew what they were supposed to say,

00:05:03.680 to be on the good guy's team,

00:05:05.460 to mock the bad guy's team,

00:05:07.120 to mock the vaccine skeptics.

00:05:08.520 The fact that two weeks later a massive study proved them wrong,

00:05:11.780 well, they don't take that personally.

00:05:13.440 They'll just come up with some new spin tomorrow.

00:05:15.140 That's the bullshitter's way. 0.51

00:05:16.640 But as Professor Frankfurt says,

00:05:18.440 you engage in bullshit too much

00:05:19.920 and you change the meaning of words

00:05:21.240 and you change your reputation

00:05:22.880 and your relationship with people and with the world,

00:05:25.480 you just become a bullshitter.

00:05:26.740 I think that's what's happened to the public health industry.

00:05:30.960 I mean, until two years ago,

00:05:31.980 I probably would have regarded the FDA,

00:05:34.020 the Food and Drug Administration in the States,

00:05:36.180 as a pretty saintly place

00:05:37.780 in terms of medical accuracy and independence.

00:05:40.000 Not that I had given them much thought in my entire life.

00:05:42.620 But how can I feel that way about them now?

00:05:44.900 The other day, one of their expert panels

00:05:46.980 voted overwhelmingly against approving booster shots

00:05:50.760 for one of the vaccines.

00:05:51.720 The vote was 16 to 2 against the boosters.

00:05:55.720 But the Biden White House demanded it.

00:05:58.000 Nonetheless, they have no interest

00:05:59.280 in medical experts saying, pause.

00:06:03.780 They want these boosters.

00:06:05.340 They're pressing forward.

00:06:06.580 Trudeau's already bought 400 million of them.

00:06:08.540 I mean, the only difference this time

00:06:10.580 is that the dissent within the drug approval industry

00:06:15.340 was public.

00:06:16.200 Normally, that's just censored or ignored.

00:06:17.780 So it's incredible that we even heard

00:06:19.320 that 16 people were against it.

00:06:20.680 How much bullshit is there?

00:06:23.720 How can you sort the facts from the spin?

00:06:26.260 It's hard, especially when even mentioning

00:06:28.240 alternative ideas, alternative theories,

00:06:31.100 can get you silenced.

00:06:33.680 Just this week, YouTube brought in new rules,

00:06:35.460 specifically banning people from questioning vaccines.

00:06:38.140 Let me read the rules to you.

00:06:39.320 Just give me a minute.

00:06:41.180 Don't post content on YouTube

00:06:42.840 if it includes harmful misinformation

00:06:44.660 about currently approved and administered vaccines

00:06:47.500 on any of the following.

00:06:48.640 Vaccine safety, content alleging the vaccine

00:06:51.260 caused chronic side effects

00:06:52.720 outside of rare side effects

00:06:54.380 that are recognized by health authorities.

00:06:56.460 Efficacy of vaccines, content claiming

00:06:58.340 that vaccines do not reduce transmission

00:07:00.540 or contraction of disease.

00:07:02.380 Ingredients in vaccines, content misrepresenting

00:07:04.900 the substances contained in vaccines.

00:07:07.180 And they have examples.

00:07:08.040 Now, I'm going to read these examples.

00:07:09.160 This is the rules that apply to us.

00:07:10.440 This is why we can't do most of our work

00:07:12.420 on YouTube anymore.

00:07:13.140 Here are some examples of content

00:07:16.480 that's not allowed on YouTube.

00:07:18.600 Claims that vaccines cause chronic side effects

00:07:20.580 such as cancer, diabetes, other chronic side effects.

00:07:23.540 Claims that vaccines do not reduce risk

00:07:25.240 of contracting illness.

00:07:26.640 Claims that vaccines contain substances

00:07:28.240 that are not on the vaccine ingredient list,

00:07:30.320 such as biological matter from fetuses,

00:07:32.560 fetal tissue, fetal cell lines, or animal byproducts.

00:07:35.780 Claims that vaccines contain substances

00:07:37.420 or devices meant to track or identify

00:07:39.140 those who have received them.

00:07:40.700 Claims that vaccines alter a person's genetic makeup.

00:07:43.840 Claims that the MMR, measles, mumps, rubella vaccine

00:07:46.820 causes autism.

00:07:48.160 Claims that vaccines are part of a depopulation agenda.

00:07:51.280 Claims that the flu vaccine causes chronic side effects

00:07:53.640 such as infertility.

00:07:55.200 Claims that the ATPV vaccine causes chronic side effects

00:07:59.240 such as paralysis.

00:08:00.140 Okay.

00:08:01.200 Now, I don't know about many of those things.

00:08:04.100 I don't think vaccines have tracking devices in them.

00:08:07.700 I just don't think so.

00:08:08.680 But I know that vaccine passports have tracking devices.

00:08:13.900 That's their whole point.

00:08:15.840 Who are you?

00:08:16.960 What's your status?

00:08:18.240 Show the authorities.

00:08:20.240 I don't know if vaccines have anything to do

00:08:22.000 with depopulation.

00:08:23.120 I don't know.

00:08:24.160 But I noticed that a lot of the same people

00:08:25.820 pushing vaccines also push depopulation

00:08:28.680 from the United Nations itself to Bill Gates.

00:08:31.140 Gates is probably the world's leading abortion funder

00:08:33.820 focused on the third world overwhelmingly.

00:08:36.380 I'm not really interested in those things now.

00:08:39.860 To be honest, that's not my focus.

00:08:41.560 My focus is whether or not these new COVID vaccines,

00:08:44.600 which were rushed to market,

00:08:46.260 and several of them have new mRNA technology in them.

00:08:50.020 I mean, Moderna has never brought a drug to market before.

00:08:52.600 And we're all being pressured into taking them right now.

00:08:55.000 I'm interested in talking about that.

00:08:57.400 And I'm interested in asking questions about it.

00:08:59.900 Even if my questions aren't perfect.

00:09:02.020 Or even if they're dumb questions.

00:09:03.860 Or even if I challenge an institution.

00:09:05.880 Or, God forbid, challenge big pharma.

00:09:08.040 I want to be able to ask any question, smart or dumb,

00:09:11.920 without being silenced.

00:09:13.040 And frankly, if I were a believer in any of these other claims,

00:09:16.860 autism, cancer, whatever,

00:09:18.900 if I genuinely believed those things, as some people do,

00:09:22.020 I don't think I would be persuaded I was wrong

00:09:24.060 by simply being told I wasn't allowed to talk about my concerns.

00:09:27.160 In fact, I would see it as the opposite.

00:09:29.100 I would see it as proof that I was onto something,

00:09:31.320 and that the system can't handle a robust debate.

00:09:34.320 So that's my point.

00:09:35.700 Things have become so politicized,

00:09:37.200 the experts have conducted themselves so abusively.

00:09:39.900 The politicians have been so authoritarian.

00:09:42.660 The police have been so brutal.

00:09:44.600 The vaccine passports are so invasive

00:09:46.760 that they really don't have a reservoir of goodwill anymore.

00:09:50.140 All they have are threats.

00:09:51.700 That's why people are taking the vaccine now.

00:09:54.020 Everyone has had almost a year to think about getting vaxxed.

00:09:57.280 And if you wanted it, you have got it by now.

00:09:59.520 Anyone who hasn't got the vaccine yet probably has a reason.

00:10:04.540 And so if they give up that reason now,

00:10:07.280 I suppose maybe you've convinced them with some new argument

00:10:10.240 they haven't heard before.

00:10:11.540 Not that they haven't been bombarded with those arguments for a year,

00:10:14.280 but I put it to you it's quite likely

00:10:16.380 because they've had a gun put to their head.

00:10:18.700 They'll be fired if they don't take it.

00:10:20.920 They'll be demonized. 0.54

00:10:22.120 That's not democracy, and that certainly isn't medicine.

00:10:25.420 But look at how proud YouTube is of their role.

00:10:28.800 Since last year, we've removed over 130,000 videos

00:10:31.760 for violating our COVID-19 vaccine policies.

00:10:34.180 You guys are so proud, you book burners. 0.99

00:10:38.620 My only question is, is that their own authoritarian decision?

00:10:42.380 Or did they get a huge payment from Pfizer or Moderna

00:10:45.760 to make that decision?

00:10:46.900 And would we ever know?

00:10:49.420 Can I ask that question?

00:10:51.240 Well, look at this in the Toronto Sun.

00:10:54.480 Ontario now recommending against Moderna vaccine for men

00:10:56.920 18 to 24 years old.

00:10:58.160 The Ontario government is now recommending males aged 18 to 24

00:11:02.220 take Pfizer over Moderna as their COVID-19 vaccination

00:11:06.040 due to the number of young men who have experienced myocarditis

00:11:08.920 after getting the vaccine.

00:11:11.840 That's your heart's inflamed.

00:11:13.600 So that's a very gentle way of saying,

00:11:16.780 stop taking Moderna.

00:11:19.380 I'll read some more.

00:11:20.000 This comes after public health officials

00:11:21.500 determine there is a 1 in 5,000 risk of myocarditis,

00:11:25.160 a form of heart inflammation,

00:11:27.100 following a second dose of the Moderna vaccine.

00:11:29.540 1 in 5,000, eh?

00:11:32.080 Do you know what the risk of death is from the virus itself

00:11:34.540 for people in the 18 to 24 age group?

00:11:37.340 Here's the Ontario public health stats.

00:11:40.640 Look at table three.

00:11:41.660 In the entire pandemic,

00:11:43.420 I'm talking about going back 18 months,

00:11:45.520 a grand total of six people have died under the age of 20.

00:11:49.380 And there's about 3 million people under that age group.

00:11:52.160 Well, it's just a little more.

00:11:53.020 So there's, what, a 1 in half a million risk

00:11:56.220 for people under 20?

00:11:57.980 1 in half a million?

00:12:00.000 Compared to 1 in 5,000 who get heart inflammation.

00:12:02.820 So you're 100 times more likely to get a heart inflammation

00:12:06.220 than to die from the vaccine itself.

00:12:08.740 That's my math.

00:12:09.540 Tell me if I'm wrong.

00:12:10.180 So imagine taking the Moderna vaccine 0.93

00:12:12.520 because you want to be safe.

00:12:15.140 No, I don't think so.

00:12:16.260 At this point, people are taking it

00:12:17.540 so they don't get fired.

00:12:20.160 How many people have had heart inflammation

00:12:22.540 because of that?

00:12:23.080 How many people have died

00:12:24.100 because of that pressure?

00:12:25.860 Here's another way to look at it.

00:12:26.860 Six deaths under age 20

00:12:28.760 from the virus, according to public health.

00:12:32.180 389 cases of myocarditis this year so far.

00:12:34.660 So Ontario is saying stop taking it

00:12:37.660 if your age is 18 to 24.

00:12:39.400 Okay, got it.

00:12:40.260 Would you really take it if you're 25 or if you're 17?

00:12:44.760 Because look at this.

00:12:45.580 Here's Trudeau's advisory,

00:12:47.660 Teresa Tam's advisory,

00:12:49.220 from just last month,

00:12:50.420 approving it for kids as young as 12.

00:12:52.740 If you've got a 12-year-old kid

00:12:54.560 who is at almost a zero risk from the virus itself,

00:12:57.800 would you take it?

00:12:59.000 They just banned it for ages 18 to 24.

00:13:01.160 Are you going to give that to your child?

00:13:04.100 Here's John Tory, the Toronto mayor,

00:13:05.720 just three months ago saying,

00:13:07.140 you should take it.

00:13:08.120 And hey, guys, it's all safe and effective.

00:13:10.440 And hey, guys, in fact, you can even mix and match

00:13:13.000 something that has never actually been tested

00:13:15.320 by the drug companies.

00:13:16.460 The drug companies have not tested their meds

00:13:19.600 mixed and matched.

00:13:20.520 No one has done that.

00:13:22.660 Here's what Tory said.

00:13:24.040 Dr. Davila's advice is clear.

00:13:25.980 Both Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines

00:13:28.540 are interchangeable.

00:13:31.160 Equally effective and safe for everyone over 18 years?

00:13:33.900 Well, we now know that's completely false.

00:13:36.060 But again, he was just bullshitting.

00:13:37.460 I don't even know if he was lying

00:13:38.940 or knew he was lying.

00:13:40.240 I think he was just bullshitting.

00:13:43.660 Can there's 389 people in Ontario sue the government?

00:13:46.180 I know they can't sue the drug companies.

00:13:48.180 They've been indemnified.

00:13:49.520 Lucky, eh?

00:13:50.100 They get none of the risk,

00:13:51.540 but they get all the money, right?

00:13:53.240 Is that how capitalism works?

00:13:55.000 I thought you took the risk and got the reward.

00:13:57.260 I don't think you got all the reward without the risk.

00:13:59.600 That doesn't seem right.

00:14:01.180 That's kind of crony capitalism

00:14:02.720 or kind of fascism in a way.

00:14:06.060 The good news is the media knows their job

00:14:08.220 is to mock people who are afraid of these things,

00:14:11.140 mock people who ask questions.

00:14:12.460 Here's a National Post story, shame on them,

00:14:15.080 about a woman who was against forced vaccines.

00:14:17.880 She ran for the People's Party,

00:14:19.600 and look at that, she got the virus. 1.00

00:14:21.480 Now, she will be fine.

00:14:23.320 She's young and healthy.

00:14:25.540 This is not a news story.

00:14:28.160 Millions of Canadians have got the virus

00:14:30.100 and have recovered.

00:14:32.920 It's not news other than she's a skeptic,

00:14:34.840 and she said so publicly,

00:14:36.840 so this is some healthy bullying by the National Post.

00:14:41.920 And that's what the left is into now,

00:14:44.940 and the National Post works for Trudeau now,

00:14:47.520 the biggest recipient of the bailout.

00:14:49.280 So they're shaming this woman.

00:14:50.500 They're bullying this woman 0.99

00:14:51.280 because she dared to speak out against vaccines.

00:14:54.380 I think she actually proves her point.

00:14:56.860 She will be fine.

00:14:58.060 She'll recover.

00:14:58.880 I think she's recovered already

00:14:59.880 and will have strong natural immunity,

00:15:01.860 but they have to mock her.

00:15:03.800 They want to mock her as unclean,

00:15:06.320 as morally unclean.

00:15:07.640 She deserves this, don't you know?

00:15:09.260 Let's laugh at her.

00:15:10.480 That's what we do to the sick.

00:15:11.620 We laugh at them.

00:15:12.360 As if we don't know

00:15:14.980 that vaccinated people can get sick too,

00:15:19.360 no matter what YouTube says.

00:15:21.000 Sorry, YouTube is not a doctor.

00:15:23.840 So YouTube will ban questions about vaccines,

00:15:26.600 dumb questions and smart questions,

00:15:28.660 but they won't ban this.

00:15:29.880 Again, whether it's a paid ad,

00:15:31.740 a product placement or whatever,

00:15:33.020 this is what's being pumped out now

00:15:34.560 by the corporate media.

00:15:36.500 This is a comedy show.

00:15:37.340 Yeah, that's late night comedy, I think.

00:15:42.120 Is that a Pfizer infomercial?

00:15:43.400 I don't know.

00:15:44.360 So are we allowed to talk about any of this

00:15:46.080 or only after, like with Moderna?

00:15:48.860 Take the shot, ask no questions,

00:15:50.280 and after we'll talk about it if you get sick.

00:15:52.060 How many young men got jabbed under duress with Moderna

00:15:55.320 only to be told,

00:15:57.160 don't do it, hey guys,

00:15:58.920 you haven't done it yet, have you?

00:16:00.400 Just like what happened with AstraZeneca.

00:16:02.660 And what next?

00:16:04.640 Oh, by the way,

00:16:05.280 here's the FDA's official approval

00:16:07.120 for Pfizer to continue.

00:16:09.860 Skim through it if you like.

00:16:11.140 It's I think 11 pages.

00:16:12.020 You can find it online pretty quickly.

00:16:14.840 They're really worried about heart problems for kids.

00:16:18.500 Just that, you know.

00:16:20.560 And so they have required, if you see,

00:16:23.000 Pfizer to continue a variety of studies

00:16:25.420 on heart problems in kids

00:16:28.640 as a result of their vaccine.

00:16:30.180 Imagine being a parent,

00:16:31.200 letting your kid participate in this experiment.

00:16:33.920 Well, you have

00:16:35.760 if you've let your kid be injected with that.

00:16:38.920 The FDA wants these studies to continue.

00:16:41.100 Can you see it there?

00:16:42.340 Until 2027.

00:16:44.780 We're in 2021 now.

00:16:46.560 They want six more years of studies.

00:16:52.100 But you have to take the vaccine now.

00:16:56.260 Maybe it's fine.

00:16:57.220 I don't know.

00:16:58.240 I'm not sure for young people, at least,

00:17:00.560 who are the very low risk of the virus.

00:17:03.300 One and a half a million chance.

00:17:05.040 But a sizable risk for heart inflammation.

00:17:07.240 One in a 5,000 chance.

00:17:08.940 This is not about health.

00:17:10.520 This is about power and control

00:17:12.140 and bullying and peer pressure

00:17:14.180 and big, big business.

00:17:17.360 Stay with us for more.

00:17:18.380 Well, who would have thought

00:17:32.000 that one of the most thoughtful commentators

00:17:34.160 on the question of vaccines,

00:17:36.500 forced vaccines, and natural immunity

00:17:38.240 would be an NBA player,

00:17:40.500 a professional basketball player?

00:17:42.120 His name is Jonathan Isaac,

00:17:43.220 and he's a power forward with the Orlando Magic.

00:17:46.060 Remember this?

00:17:46.640 Jonathan, Josh Robbins with The Athletic.

00:17:50.260 What is it about the vaccine

00:17:52.200 that makes you hesitant to get it?

00:17:57.560 I would start with,

00:18:00.060 I've had COVID in the past,

00:18:02.800 and so our understanding of antibodies,

00:18:05.580 of natural immunity,

00:18:06.720 has changed a great deal

00:18:09.700 from the onset of the pandemic

00:18:10.820 and is still evolving.

00:18:13.100 I understand that the vaccine

00:18:14.780 would help if you catch COVID

00:18:17.900 and you'll be able to have less symptoms

00:18:20.320 from contracting it,

00:18:21.800 but with me having COVID in the past

00:18:23.220 and having antibodies

00:18:24.480 with my current age group

00:18:27.060 and physical fitness level,

00:18:30.100 it's not necessarily a fear of mine.

00:18:32.620 Taking the vaccine,

00:18:34.120 like I said,

00:18:35.940 it would decrease my chances

00:18:37.000 of having a severe reaction,

00:18:39.640 but it does open me up

00:18:40.740 to the albeit rare chance,

00:18:43.100 but the possibility

00:18:43.800 of having an adverse reaction

00:18:45.180 to the vaccine itself.

00:18:47.500 I don't believe that being

00:18:49.360 unvaccinated means infected

00:18:51.640 or being vaccinated means uninfected.

00:18:55.260 You can still catch COVID

00:18:56.400 with or we're not having the vaccine.

00:18:58.860 I would say, honestly,

00:19:01.540 the craziness of it all

00:19:03.660 in terms of not being able to say

00:19:05.860 that it should be everybody's fair choice

00:19:07.520 without being demeaned

00:19:09.220 or talked crazy to

00:19:11.140 doesn't make one comfortable

00:19:13.700 to do what said person

00:19:15.420 is telling them to do.

00:19:18.900 Yeah, I would say

00:19:20.040 that's a couple of the reasons

00:19:21.300 that I would say

00:19:22.820 I'm hesitant at this time,

00:19:24.300 but at the end of the day,

00:19:25.680 I don't feel that it is,

00:19:27.280 you know, anyone's reason

00:19:28.760 to come out and say,

00:19:29.700 well, this is why

00:19:30.320 or this is not why.

00:19:31.360 It should just be their decision

00:19:32.700 and, you know,

00:19:34.180 loving your neighbors,

00:19:35.000 not just loving those

00:19:35.820 that agree with you

00:19:36.820 or look like you

00:19:37.600 or move in the same way

00:19:39.300 that you do.

00:19:39.880 It's, you know,

00:19:41.080 loving those who don't.

00:19:42.380 He was referring

00:19:42.940 to natural immunity,

00:19:44.320 the fact that he,

00:19:45.340 a very healthy,

00:19:46.220 athletic young man,

00:19:47.580 got COVID,

00:19:48.440 obviously got over it.

00:19:49.780 And according to many studies,

00:19:51.600 natural immunity

00:19:52.280 is as powerful

00:19:53.500 or more powerful

00:19:54.720 than the immunity

00:19:55.800 from vaccination.

00:19:56.800 That includes the study

00:19:57.700 in the British Medical Journal

00:19:59.880 of thousands of cases

00:20:01.380 in Israel.

00:20:03.560 Oddly enough,

00:20:04.560 the phrase natural immunity

00:20:06.600 has been blocked

00:20:08.860 by Twitter.

00:20:11.060 They will not allow

00:20:12.140 that phrase to trend.

00:20:14.100 Why not?

00:20:14.480 It's a thing.

00:20:15.660 Are we suddenly denying

00:20:16.800 that our bodies

00:20:17.560 have an immune system?

00:20:20.000 Of course,

00:20:20.460 YouTube followed that up

00:20:21.460 with a larger ban

00:20:23.220 on vaccine skepticism

00:20:25.020 in general.

00:20:27.120 All this on the same

00:20:28.920 day or week

00:20:30.860 that Ontario

00:20:32.260 acknowledges

00:20:33.620 it should never

00:20:35.040 have prescribed

00:20:35.960 or pressured

00:20:37.000 young men aged 18 to 24

00:20:39.700 to take the Moderna vaccine.

00:20:41.460 In fact,

00:20:42.200 they stopped making it available

00:20:44.140 for that age group,

00:20:45.580 even though the city

00:20:46.840 of Toronto plans

00:20:48.040 to give vaccines

00:20:48.800 to children

00:20:49.420 as young as five.

00:20:51.120 Well,

00:20:51.200 joining us now

00:20:51.740 to talk about this

00:20:52.700 is someone

00:20:53.580 who is suing

00:20:54.980 to stop

00:20:56.480 forced vaccines

00:20:58.000 on behalf of people

00:20:59.680 who have

00:21:00.580 natural immunity.

00:21:02.260 You won't be surprised.

00:21:03.440 I'm talking to our friend

00:21:04.520 Janine Younis

00:21:05.620 from the National,

00:21:07.180 sorry,

00:21:07.520 the New Civil Liberties Alliance

00:21:09.180 and she joins us now

00:21:10.520 from Washington, D.C.

00:21:12.540 Janine,

00:21:12.820 great to see you again.

00:21:15.000 Great to see you too, Ezra.

00:21:16.040 Thank you for having me back.

00:21:17.920 Well, it's a pleasure.

00:21:19.020 I tell you that

00:21:19.980 that statement

00:21:21.480 off the cuff,

00:21:23.080 unscripted

00:21:23.980 by a basketball player

00:21:25.960 in a press conference

00:21:27.380 was more thoughtful

00:21:29.080 than most of the commentaries

00:21:30.500 I've seen

00:21:31.000 not only from the media

00:21:32.860 that covers the pandemic,

00:21:34.520 but even from

00:21:35.520 public health officials.

00:21:36.540 I thought it was nuanced,

00:21:38.620 balanced, thoughtful,

00:21:39.840 was not strident

00:21:41.420 or ideological.

00:21:42.760 It was just a young man

00:21:44.380 who it seems to me

00:21:45.480 has been carefully

00:21:46.800 thinking about this

00:21:47.880 for a long time.

00:21:49.000 That was the clearest

00:21:49.680 I've ever heard it expressed.

00:21:52.160 Yeah, I agree.

00:21:53.280 I actually,

00:21:53.800 I thought he sounded

00:21:54.420 far more articulate

00:21:55.380 and intelligent

00:21:56.040 than Anthony Fauci

00:21:57.700 or Rochelle Valenci

00:21:58.720 or Joe Biden,

00:21:59.760 certainly many of the people

00:22:01.580 who've been speaking

00:22:02.180 on this topic.

00:22:03.580 I wish he could be running

00:22:04.760 our policy in this regard.

00:22:06.980 Yeah.

00:22:07.680 You know,

00:22:08.060 it was interesting

00:22:09.740 to see him

00:22:10.400 and a few fellow NBA players

00:22:12.200 who are trying to dissent.

00:22:14.220 I see news

00:22:14.980 that the manager

00:22:15.580 of a Canadian sports team,

00:22:17.240 the Elks,

00:22:18.080 managed to get

00:22:18.780 a medical exemption

00:22:20.220 and that became

00:22:22.540 a storm of news coverage.

00:22:25.660 I don't think

00:22:26.540 it's anyone's business

00:22:27.660 if you're vaccinated

00:22:28.800 or not,

00:22:29.700 but we live in a time

00:22:30.980 where that is.

00:22:31.720 I think that the,

00:22:32.880 the press coverage,

00:22:34.940 these professional athletes

00:22:36.640 or in the case

00:22:37.180 of the Edmonton Elks,

00:22:38.960 the manager,

00:22:39.960 I think it's designed

00:22:41.500 to shame others

00:22:42.680 and silence them.

00:22:43.860 I don't think it's,

00:22:45.040 wow,

00:22:45.200 look at this thought leader.

00:22:46.680 I think it's,

00:22:47.540 oh,

00:22:47.620 we have a dissident.

00:22:48.840 We must crush dissent

00:22:50.340 lest this unconventional

00:22:52.600 narrative take root.

00:22:53.780 That's how it looks to me.

00:22:56.560 Yeah,

00:22:57.100 that's how it looks

00:22:57.740 to me too.

00:22:58.840 You know,

00:22:59.560 and a lot of the universities

00:23:01.000 who are implementing

00:23:01.820 these policies

00:23:02.680 don't recognize

00:23:04.320 natural immunity

00:23:05.180 and they just say

00:23:06.640 the most bizarre things

00:23:07.880 that in their opinion,

00:23:09.800 natural immunity

00:23:10.420 doesn't exist.

00:23:11.180 That was a statement

00:23:11.760 made to me

00:23:12.660 by an attorney for GMU

00:23:14.120 in a lawsuit against,

00:23:15.820 I brought against

00:23:16.360 the university

00:23:16.900 on behalf of a law professor,

00:23:18.380 Todd Zwicky.

00:23:19.560 Well,

00:23:19.980 that's actually why

00:23:20.560 I wanted to talk to you today.

00:23:21.880 I,

00:23:22.220 I showed those other things

00:23:24.020 because I think

00:23:24.380 they're interesting.

00:23:25.480 A lot of these people

00:23:26.600 who are rejecting

00:23:28.280 the vaccine

00:23:29.760 have got the virus

00:23:31.540 in many cases

00:23:33.040 if they're young

00:23:33.540 and healthy.

00:23:34.160 It didn't floor them.

00:23:35.860 It didn't hospitalize them.

00:23:37.180 It was inconvenient

00:23:38.440 and it was,

00:23:39.420 you know,

00:23:40.040 perhaps worrisome

00:23:40.800 but especially

00:23:41.440 the young healthy athletes.

00:23:43.780 So it brings back

00:23:44.900 the issue

00:23:45.320 of natural immunity.

00:23:46.580 I find it bizarre

00:23:47.500 that the censors

00:23:49.060 are tackling that phrase.

00:23:50.700 Can you give us

00:23:51.420 an update

00:23:51.780 on the lawsuit

00:23:52.320 you mentioned?

00:23:52.840 You said GMU.

00:23:54.160 Just a reminder

00:23:54.840 for our Canadian viewers

00:23:55.860 that's George Mason University

00:23:57.240 in the greater D.C. area.

00:23:59.880 I think that's in Virginia

00:24:00.800 if I'm not mistaken.

00:24:01.880 How's that lawsuit going?

00:24:03.380 Because you have a case

00:24:04.420 of a tenured professor,

00:24:05.860 a law professor no less,

00:24:08.900 got the virus,

00:24:10.220 overcame.

00:24:10.740 It has natural immunity

00:24:11.720 but they're threatening

00:24:13.060 to punish him

00:24:14.420 if he doesn't take

00:24:15.780 this medical injection

00:24:18.540 against his wishes

00:24:19.780 or frankly against,

00:24:21.320 I suppose,

00:24:21.960 his own medical advice.

00:24:24.600 Well,

00:24:25.140 that lawsuit

00:24:26.280 is actually sort of over.

00:24:27.460 It ended up resolving

00:24:28.260 out of court.

00:24:29.320 Professor Zwicky

00:24:30.080 was granted

00:24:30.560 a medical exemption

00:24:31.500 by GMU.

00:24:32.860 So,

00:24:33.160 I'll stop you right there.

00:24:34.540 I didn't know this news.

00:24:36.920 So,

00:24:37.260 did GMU

00:24:37.640 change their policy

00:24:38.740 to accept natural immunity?

00:24:39.840 No.

00:24:40.780 No.

00:24:41.320 And they explicitly said

00:24:42.500 this wasn't

00:24:42.940 for natural immunity.

00:24:43.960 He had another medical issue

00:24:45.480 that they said

00:24:47.100 was the basis.

00:24:47.920 We think they just wanted

00:24:48.640 the lawsuit to go away.

00:24:50.160 But,

00:24:50.240 yeah.

00:24:52.740 So,

00:24:52.940 that ended

00:24:53.460 about a month ago

00:24:54.200 but I have a new lawsuit

00:24:55.200 against Michigan State University

00:24:56.860 on behalf of Gina Norris

00:24:58.820 who's an employee

00:24:59.560 and like Professor Zwicky

00:25:01.780 has natural immunity.

00:25:03.600 We have an immunologist

00:25:04.980 who can attest to that

00:25:05.880 that she has robust

00:25:06.580 antibody levels.

00:25:07.600 This is not speculative

00:25:08.480 natural immunity.

00:25:10.240 Michigan State University

00:25:11.300 is forcing all its employees

00:25:12.780 to get vaccinated

00:25:13.640 threatening them

00:25:14.640 with discipline

00:25:15.320 to and including

00:25:16.320 termination

00:25:16.960 of employment

00:25:18.220 if they do not comply.

00:25:19.920 So,

00:25:20.320 we're arguing

00:25:21.600 that her constitutional rights

00:25:22.780 are being violated.

00:25:23.740 The government

00:25:24.080 has no compelling interest

00:25:25.300 in forcing her

00:25:25.960 to get this vaccine

00:25:26.820 because she has

00:25:27.440 natural immunity.

00:25:28.920 And,

00:25:29.240 we have our experts.

00:25:31.360 They have an expert.

00:25:32.480 We had a hearing

00:25:33.140 last week in Michigan.

00:25:35.020 And,

00:25:35.580 one thing

00:25:36.580 that I really noticed

00:25:37.540 that I think

00:25:38.420 is of interest

00:25:39.140 and importance

00:25:39.960 is that essentially

00:25:41.040 what their experts

00:25:42.060 position boils down to

00:25:43.280 is that because

00:25:43.940 there are no randomized

00:25:44.660 controlled studies

00:25:45.660 of natural immunity

00:25:46.600 we have to pretend

00:25:47.540 it doesn't exist.

00:25:48.800 We're supposed to ignore

00:25:49.500 all the observational

00:25:50.800 real world data

00:25:51.680 that we have

00:25:52.360 because there's been

00:25:54.000 no such study.

00:25:54.960 And,

00:25:55.440 you know,

00:25:55.840 I've spoken

00:25:56.280 to some of our experts

00:25:57.480 about that,

00:25:58.340 Martin Kulldorff

00:25:59.080 and Jay Bhattacharya,

00:26:00.000 you really can't conduct

00:26:01.060 a randomized

00:26:01.480 controlled study

00:26:02.440 of natural immunity

00:26:03.440 because that would involve

00:26:04.420 purposely infecting people

00:26:06.500 which would be

00:26:06.960 considered unethical.

00:26:08.480 So,

00:26:08.860 you know,

00:26:09.120 what we have

00:26:09.640 is a lot

00:26:10.260 of voluminous

00:26:11.800 real world

00:26:12.500 observational data

00:26:13.420 including a study

00:26:14.160 from Israel

00:26:14.660 of 700,000 people

00:26:16.180 establishing

00:26:17.020 that natural immunity

00:26:18.060 is as good

00:26:18.920 or better

00:26:19.200 than the vaccines.

00:26:20.360 In fact,

00:26:20.660 the study from Israel

00:26:21.620 showed it was

00:26:22.140 27 times more effective

00:26:23.680 I think against

00:26:24.500 infections

00:26:26.020 than the vaccines.

00:26:28.840 Yeah,

00:26:29.420 you know,

00:26:29.800 I mean,

00:26:29.980 it's incredible

00:26:30.940 that our own bodies,

00:26:33.460 the whole concept

00:26:34.160 of immunity

00:26:34.740 which every kid

00:26:35.540 learns about

00:26:36.100 in biology,

00:26:37.540 I mean,

00:26:37.640 we all know

00:26:38.200 what your immune system is.

00:26:40.180 We all understand

00:26:41.260 what immune diseases do.

00:26:43.280 I mean,

00:26:43.400 this is not news.

00:26:44.820 It's decades,

00:26:46.180 centuries old

00:26:46.860 in some case.

00:26:47.580 the fact that

00:26:48.440 that is being ignored

00:26:49.600 but a newfangled

00:26:51.580 still experimental drug

00:26:54.560 that is still

00:26:55.180 undergoing tests

00:26:55.980 is considered

00:26:56.660 the default

00:26:57.980 but our natural immunity

00:26:59.580 is where the skepticism

00:27:01.580 and the banning

00:27:02.680 is being focused.

00:27:04.060 It's an upside down world.

00:27:05.920 How is it going

00:27:06.960 at MSU

00:27:08.260 at Michigan State University?

00:27:09.580 I can imagine

00:27:10.020 it's a very large university

00:27:11.260 and hundreds,

00:27:12.700 maybe thousands

00:27:13.280 of people

00:27:13.740 might be affected.

00:27:14.820 My own observation

00:27:16.520 is that most people

00:27:18.620 cannot afford

00:27:19.440 to be fired.

00:27:20.780 They can't afford

00:27:21.600 the stress,

00:27:22.200 they can't afford

00:27:22.740 the economic loss.

00:27:23.900 I think a lot of people

00:27:24.980 are one paycheck away

00:27:26.040 from not making rent

00:27:26.960 or groceries.

00:27:28.480 I would imagine

00:27:29.680 a large institution

00:27:30.640 like that

00:27:31.200 that the majority

00:27:33.660 of people

00:27:34.140 would just have

00:27:35.100 to violate

00:27:35.660 their own conscious

00:27:36.540 and bodily integrity

00:27:37.500 because the alternative

00:27:39.600 to them

00:27:40.080 to possibly be destitute

00:27:42.100 and have their career ruined

00:27:43.120 is just

00:27:44.100 too terrible.

00:27:45.740 Is that your observation?

00:27:47.840 The people

00:27:48.380 when the gun is

00:27:49.360 Well, I'm actually

00:27:50.160 Go ahead.

00:27:52.160 Well, I'm surprised

00:27:52.900 we've had a lot of people

00:27:53.900 emailing us

00:27:54.520 saying that they want

00:27:55.120 to join the lawsuit.

00:27:56.160 So we're, you know,

00:27:57.260 we're awaiting

00:27:57.700 the judge's decision

00:27:58.540 on the preliminary injunction,

00:27:59.920 which was the hearing

00:28:00.500 that we had last week.

00:28:02.460 I've been sort of surprised

00:28:03.940 that many people

00:28:04.500 seem to have the stomach

00:28:06.040 to take this on

00:28:07.120 and they care enough about it.

00:28:08.280 And I'm very pleased with that.

00:28:09.860 I think it's very courageous,

00:28:11.020 obviously,

00:28:11.900 for people to,

00:28:12.580 you know,

00:28:13.880 risk their livelihoods

00:28:15.560 in order to take a stand.

00:28:17.440 And a lot of them

00:28:17.980 have actually said,

00:28:18.880 including Gina Norris, 1.00

00:28:19.980 who is the lead plaintiff

00:28:21.720 at the moment,

00:28:22.640 that she's doing this

00:28:23.800 in part for other people.

00:28:24.800 She wants to vindicate

00:28:25.640 the scientific process

00:28:26.700 and she's watching this

00:28:28.180 and she thinks

00:28:28.680 it looks crazy

00:28:29.340 and she doesn't want 0.98

00:28:30.140 to let the government

00:28:30.680 get away with this.

00:28:32.580 And another thing

00:28:33.500 I'd like to point out

00:28:34.320 is that goes to

00:28:35.520 one of your earlier points.

00:28:36.540 I don't know about in Canada,

00:28:37.500 but like Michigan State University

00:28:39.760 and GMU,

00:28:40.840 they're accepting,

00:28:41.700 for instance,

00:28:42.180 the Sinovac vaccine

00:28:44.600 from China

00:28:45.180 that's estimated

00:28:46.200 to be about 50% effective

00:28:47.840 at best.

00:28:48.760 The Sputnik vaccine

00:28:49.920 from Russia,

00:28:50.700 same thing.

00:28:51.740 You know,

00:28:51.960 so to deny natural immunity

00:28:53.320 and accept these vaccines

00:28:54.680 is just absurd.

00:28:56.280 Yeah,

00:28:56.440 that's crazy.

00:28:58.240 Let me ask you

00:28:59.140 on the business side.

00:29:00.360 Here in Canada,

00:29:01.100 some brave businesses

00:29:03.660 are refusing

00:29:04.440 to enforce

00:29:05.600 the vaccine passports.

00:29:07.540 For example,

00:29:08.080 in the city of Winnipeg,

00:29:09.860 Monstrosity Burger,

00:29:11.620 as it's called,

00:29:12.620 simply will not

00:29:13.820 ask their customers

00:29:15.860 if they're vaxxed or not.

00:29:18.500 They have their liquor license

00:29:20.040 removed

00:29:20.380 and they're not allowed

00:29:21.240 to serve customers

00:29:22.240 in their restaurant

00:29:23.800 and they're facing

00:29:24.400 $60,000 in fines.

00:29:25.960 We're helping them

00:29:28.120 fight the fines

00:29:28.660 as part of our little

00:29:29.360 Civil Liberties project.

00:29:30.460 Do you have any cases

00:29:32.180 in the United States

00:29:33.240 where institutions

00:29:34.620 or businesses

00:29:36.480 are saying,

00:29:37.080 you know what,

00:29:37.680 we're simply not going

00:29:38.780 to go along with this.

00:29:40.500 We are not going

00:29:41.080 to be agents

00:29:41.840 of the state,

00:29:43.220 secret policemen,

00:29:44.660 health inspectors,

00:29:46.060 doctors.

00:29:46.380 We're not going

00:29:47.060 to do this

00:29:47.540 to our own customers.

00:29:48.660 Has that come up

00:29:49.480 in America too?

00:29:52.040 Yeah,

00:29:52.740 so I've seen it

00:29:55.940 in New York

00:29:56.520 because New York

00:29:57.080 has a similar vaccine

00:29:58.040 passport program

00:29:58.800 and actually my friend

00:29:59.520 Eli Klein

00:30:00.300 who's on Twitter.

00:30:01.440 He's an art dealer.

00:30:02.960 He's very well versed

00:30:03.820 in natural immunity

00:30:04.640 actually so he gets

00:30:05.600 made fun of by the experts

00:30:06.600 but he seems to know

00:30:07.880 more than them.

00:30:08.900 So he's been very vocal.

00:30:10.080 He won't enforce

00:30:11.400 the passport in terms

00:30:12.540 of letting people

00:30:13.100 into his gallery

00:30:13.920 and so I know,

00:30:15.280 you know,

00:30:15.440 I'm not going to say

00:30:16.040 he's public about it.

00:30:17.800 I'm not going to say

00:30:18.280 some other businesses

00:30:19.180 that aren't enforcing

00:30:20.660 it in New York

00:30:21.200 but there are a number

00:30:23.640 who are refusing to.

00:30:25.680 Okay,

00:30:26.280 and are they being

00:30:27.220 targeted by the state?

00:30:29.140 Are they being...

00:30:30.080 Not that I know of yet.

00:30:33.400 You know,

00:30:34.300 I haven't heard

00:30:35.440 of anybody

00:30:35.960 getting in trouble

00:30:36.660 yet in New York.

00:30:37.660 Although,

00:30:37.960 New York,

00:30:38.780 they only started

00:30:39.320 enforcing this

00:30:40.080 in mid-September

00:30:40.860 so it's kind of new.

00:30:42.120 So I think it remains

00:30:43.740 to be seen

00:30:44.240 what will happen.

00:30:45.440 Has anyone gone to jail

00:30:47.180 in the United States

00:30:48.560 over forced vaccines?

00:30:50.160 Has anyone been jailed

00:30:52.480 in contempt of court

00:30:53.600 or for resisting

00:30:56.500 in some way?

00:30:59.020 I don't think

00:31:00.240 in the way

00:31:00.680 that you were thinking

00:31:01.280 but I know of cases

00:31:02.360 people who are being

00:31:04.060 told that they can

00:31:05.160 get probation,

00:31:06.100 you know,

00:31:06.280 which is an alternative

00:31:06.900 to prison

00:31:07.440 if they get the vaccine

00:31:08.500 or people who are

00:31:09.260 being told they can,

00:31:10.600 their parole

00:31:11.180 will be approved

00:31:12.860 if they get the vaccine.

00:31:13.880 And I think

00:31:14.920 those cases

00:31:15.560 are being challenged

00:31:16.400 actually.

00:31:17.600 Yeah.

00:31:18.360 Well,

00:31:18.980 I find this very troubling

00:31:20.340 in Canada.

00:31:22.460 Business owners

00:31:23.460 and various churches

00:31:25.100 if they wouldn't

00:31:26.060 bend the knee

00:31:26.680 to other lockdown orders

00:31:28.920 they would be jailed

00:31:30.280 for contempt

00:31:31.560 or jailed

00:31:32.740 in the process.

00:31:33.940 In fact,

00:31:34.240 we represent a pastor

00:31:35.280 in Calgary,

00:31:36.400 Arthur Pavlovsky

00:31:37.280 who was arrested

00:31:38.360 on the airport

00:31:40.980 tarmac

00:31:41.740 a team of masked

00:31:43.400 police

00:31:43.820 to stop the plane

00:31:46.380 and he has a hearing

00:31:48.040 in two weeks

00:31:49.900 he'll receive sentencing

00:31:50.860 for contempt

00:31:51.580 the prosecution

00:31:52.740 is asking for 21 days

00:31:54.460 in prison

00:31:55.080 because he won't

00:31:56.540 apologize

00:31:57.200 for keeping his church

00:31:58.980 open.

00:31:59.340 So that's a little bit

00:31:59.980 different

00:32:00.360 but I find it

00:32:01.820 very illiberal

00:32:02.700 the idea of

00:32:03.560 jailing someone

00:32:04.620 actual prison

00:32:05.700 for not going along

00:32:07.220 with this

00:32:07.700 and otherwise

00:32:09.020 you know,

00:32:10.680 blameless man

00:32:11.440 who's done

00:32:11.920 he's a pastor

00:32:13.020 his whole life

00:32:15.040 living a clean life

00:32:16.220 nothing to do

00:32:17.740 with criminality

00:32:18.480 and he may

00:32:19.300 see 21 more days

00:32:20.540 in jail

00:32:21.000 I know

00:32:22.680 that you're a woman

00:32:24.660 of the left

00:32:25.460 or at least

00:32:26.360 you have been

00:32:26.920 in the past

00:32:27.480 and I find that

00:32:28.080 very interesting

00:32:28.820 and actually

00:32:29.920 our lawyer

00:32:30.460 for Pastor Arthur

00:32:31.420 is a woman

00:32:31.880 of the left

00:32:32.240 and I'm always

00:32:33.680 encouraged

00:32:34.120 when I see

00:32:34.680 true liberals

00:32:35.380 or true progressives

00:32:36.540 remembering that

00:32:37.740 they believe

00:32:38.180 in civil liberties

00:32:38.960 too

00:32:39.400 I'm always

00:32:40.800 depressed

00:32:41.360 when I see

00:32:42.120 liberals

00:32:43.120 abandon that

00:32:44.360 part of their

00:32:45.040 political ideological

00:32:46.140 heritage

00:32:46.780 and I don't know

00:32:48.740 how it is

00:32:49.280 in the United States

00:32:50.140 these days

00:32:50.800 are there any

00:32:51.940 groups on the left

00:32:53.520 who say

00:32:54.040 we may not like

00:32:55.280 Trump

00:32:55.560 we may not like

00:32:56.200 Republicans

00:32:56.700 we don't like

00:32:57.400 that southern style

00:32:58.700 or whatever

00:32:59.200 but we believe

00:33:00.280 in civil liberties

00:33:01.060 is there anyone

00:33:01.700 else like that

00:33:02.320 you guys at the

00:33:03.060 new civil liberties

00:33:04.000 alliance are encouraging

00:33:05.100 are there other

00:33:06.040 allies down there?

00:33:08.180 not really

00:33:10.180 on the left

00:33:10.720 there are not groups

00:33:11.560 I mean there are

00:33:12.080 individuals like

00:33:12.760 Naomi Wolf

00:33:13.540 Robert F. Kennedy

00:33:15.120 I think who are

00:33:16.120 opposed to a lot

00:33:17.580 of these liberal

00:33:18.280 policies

00:33:18.900 but yeah

00:33:19.640 you know

00:33:19.980 and I've said

00:33:20.580 this many times

00:33:21.240 what we're seeing

00:33:21.800 on the left now

00:33:22.500 is not

00:33:22.880 this is not

00:33:23.400 liberalism

00:33:23.980 it has nothing

00:33:24.660 to do with it

00:33:25.300 it's some sort

00:33:26.180 of bizarre

00:33:26.940 authoritarianism

00:33:28.340 there's a

00:33:29.160 great desire

00:33:30.600 to control

00:33:31.200 other people's

00:33:31.900 lives

00:33:32.320 and to shame

00:33:33.740 people

00:33:34.140 this is the

00:33:34.840 opposite of

00:33:35.440 liberalism

00:33:36.380 it's the opposite

00:33:37.000 of you know

00:33:37.680 why I

00:33:38.900 considered myself

00:33:40.040 a liberal leftist

00:33:41.060 and the policies

00:33:43.080 that we're seeing

00:33:43.860 these people

00:33:44.540 embrace

00:33:45.580 for instance

00:33:46.260 I was just

00:33:46.760 talking to my

00:33:47.160 friend who has

00:33:47.600 young children

00:33:48.240 the kids

00:33:49.640 some of these

00:33:50.860 schools don't let 0.85

00:33:51.660 kids drink water

00:33:52.700 in class

00:33:53.340 because they

00:33:53.860 would have to

00:33:54.460 remove their masks

00:33:55.280 they have to eat

00:33:56.100 lunch sitting apart

00:33:57.140 on concrete

00:33:58.240 outside when it's

00:33:59.260 cold

00:33:59.520 I mean

00:33:59.860 this is not

00:34:01.200 liberal

00:34:01.520 this is not

00:34:02.000 a society

00:34:02.560 that cares

00:34:03.080 for its people

00:34:03.820 it's completely

00:34:05.440 insane to me

00:34:06.160 a bunch of

00:34:06.900 in my opinion

00:34:08.460 paranoid adults

00:34:10.120 who've become

00:34:10.820 basically

00:34:11.360 insane hypochondrials

00:34:13.480 just inflicting

00:34:16.120 their absurd

00:34:17.580 anxiety

00:34:18.140 onto children

00:34:18.860 and the poor

00:34:19.920 and working class

00:34:20.980 who are the ones

00:34:22.220 who are being

00:34:22.580 most negatively

00:34:23.200 affected by all

00:34:24.080 of these policies

00:34:24.680 including the

00:34:25.240 vaccine mandates

00:34:25.900 that were most

00:34:26.360 negatively affected

00:34:27.140 by the lockdowns

00:34:28.060 and you know

00:34:28.880 in New York City

00:34:29.760 for instance

00:34:30.220 the vast majority

00:34:31.040 of unvaccinated

00:34:31.860 people are black

00:34:32.840 so it's those

00:34:34.680 people who are

00:34:35.380 excluded from

00:34:36.040 businesses

00:34:36.520 and you know

00:34:37.560 black owned 0.99

00:34:38.000 businesses

00:34:38.400 and heavily black

00:34:39.160 communities

00:34:39.580 are losing business

00:34:40.500 so it's

00:34:41.860 and a lot of

00:34:42.940 the reason

00:34:43.440 that minorities

00:34:44.040 don't want to

00:34:44.400 get the vaccine

00:34:44.920 by the way

00:34:45.340 is because

00:34:45.640 they had COVID

00:34:46.280 because they

00:34:46.740 were out

00:34:47.020 delivering takeout

00:34:47.900 and cooking meals

00:34:49.120 while everybody

00:34:50.160 else was sitting

00:34:50.680 at home on Zoom

00:34:51.420 so you know

00:34:52.820 this has just

00:34:53.320 proven to me

00:34:53.880 that they're

00:34:54.180 hypocrites

00:34:54.700 I have suspected

00:34:55.680 it for a long

00:34:56.220 time and now

00:34:57.120 to me it's

00:34:57.680 beyond the case

00:34:58.900 has proven

00:34:59.260 beyond a reasonable

00:34:59.960 doubt that

00:35:00.640 they don't care

00:35:02.360 about other people

00:35:02.980 they don't care

00:35:03.420 about the poor

00:35:03.920 the working class

00:35:04.580 the most vulnerable

00:35:05.240 they just you know

00:35:06.100 they want to sit

00:35:06.680 at home on Zoom

00:35:07.360 in their pajamas

00:35:07.960 yeah I find this

00:35:10.200 very troubling

00:35:11.160 you mentioned

00:35:12.220 you know

00:35:12.760 minorities

00:35:13.660 in Canada

00:35:15.460 especially in the

00:35:16.460 big cities

00:35:16.820 like Toronto

00:35:17.360 the issue of

00:35:18.700 carding

00:35:19.240 that's what they

00:35:19.760 call stopping

00:35:20.960 and frisking

00:35:21.660 or stopping

00:35:22.260 and demanding

00:35:22.780 ID for no

00:35:23.600 probable cause

00:35:24.580 just that's been

00:35:25.480 a real issue

00:35:26.140 in policing

00:35:27.060 in Toronto

00:35:27.720 and suddenly

00:35:28.880 carding

00:35:29.500 you know

00:35:30.960 a liberal

00:35:31.560 would never

00:35:32.020 allow carding

00:35:32.700 would never

00:35:33.040 allow you know

00:35:33.800 show your papers

00:35:34.840 even for voting

00:35:36.100 but now

00:35:38.780 to show your papers

00:35:39.760 even to go

00:35:40.660 into a restaurant

00:35:41.440 all this talk

00:35:43.240 about anti-bullying

00:35:44.560 I don't know

00:35:44.960 if it's the same

00:35:45.520 where you're from

00:35:46.700 but there's just

00:35:47.920 relentless

00:35:48.720 endless

00:35:49.380 public service

00:35:50.500 announcement

00:35:50.840 campaign in Canada

00:35:51.800 against bullying

00:35:53.180 you know

00:35:53.720 mental health

00:35:55.300 and wellness

00:35:56.840 and suddenly

00:35:57.900 all it is

00:35:58.880 is bullying

00:35:59.960 and shaming

00:36:00.680 all these things

00:36:01.460 used to be

00:36:02.020 of the left

00:36:02.800 don't bully

00:36:03.720 people

00:36:04.160 don't card

00:36:05.400 people

00:36:05.900 and pro-choice

00:36:07.180 my body

00:36:07.740 my life

00:36:08.180 keep your rosaries

00:36:09.040 off my ovaries

00:36:09.960 all of these things

00:36:11.480 I just don't

00:36:12.680 I thought they

00:36:13.840 actually meant it

00:36:14.920 especially the pro-choice

00:36:16.380 I thought that was

00:36:17.680 the core

00:36:18.320 the core value

00:36:19.880 of the Canadian left

00:36:20.740 was pro-choice

00:36:21.600 for bodily integrity

00:36:22.980 how can that just

00:36:23.940 evaporate in one year

00:36:26.000 well

00:36:28.400 I do think

00:36:29.300 some of it

00:36:29.740 is a generational

00:36:30.560 difference

00:36:31.160 I do

00:36:31.880 I think like

00:36:32.380 the old school

00:36:33.000 left

00:36:33.340 I still

00:36:34.240 you know

00:36:34.580 in fact

00:36:35.020 some of the people

00:36:35.640 who write to me

00:36:36.240 and say thank you

00:36:36.700 for speaking out

00:36:37.260 from the left

00:36:37.680 or most of them

00:36:38.340 I would say

00:36:38.680 are from the generation

00:36:39.480 older than me

00:36:40.260 I think that

00:36:41.180 my generation

00:36:42.400 and younger

00:36:42.900 that those

00:36:44.340 like so-called

00:36:44.980 liberals

00:36:45.340 tend to be

00:36:46.540 just a lot of

00:36:47.040 spoiled

00:36:47.520 coddled people

00:36:48.260 who actually

00:36:48.700 don't understand

00:36:49.400 freedom

00:36:49.780 they don't

00:36:50.220 understand

00:36:50.780 you know

00:36:52.120 what

00:36:52.840 they don't really

00:36:53.860 think about

00:36:54.280 what it's like

00:36:54.740 for the poor

00:36:55.200 and working class

00:36:55.720 they don't think

00:36:56.200 about the servers

00:36:56.820 who have to wear

00:36:57.340 masks all day

00:36:58.160 because they've

00:36:59.160 never worked

00:36:59.600 in a restaurant

00:37:00.140 that's sort of

00:37:01.520 what I'm seeing

00:37:01.940 from my real world

00:37:02.780 experience

00:37:03.420 in terms of

00:37:04.960 embracing these policies

00:37:06.160 and I don't know

00:37:07.300 if you saw this

00:37:07.940 Leanna Nguyen

00:37:08.840 who's like

00:37:09.340 one of the worst

00:37:10.020 people on all

00:37:10.660 of these topics

00:37:11.180 and she said

00:37:11.720 the other week

00:37:12.280 unvaccinated people

00:37:13.420 shouldn't be able

00:37:13.940 to leave their homes

00:37:14.700 well today

00:37:15.480 she said

00:37:16.040 because the federal

00:37:17.480 government seems

00:37:18.120 to be recommending

00:37:18.760 against boosters

00:37:19.660 she's saying

00:37:20.420 the federal government

00:37:21.360 shouldn't be able

00:37:21.860 to make decisions

00:37:22.600 about how people

00:37:23.180 live their lives

00:37:23.820 or something

00:37:24.280 like that

00:37:24.740 I mean

00:37:25.260 new people

00:37:26.720 have been telling

00:37:27.300 everybody

00:37:27.700 how to live

00:37:28.140 their life

00:37:28.580 for the last

00:37:29.080 18 months

00:37:29.980 but when it

00:37:31.360 conflicts with that

00:37:32.140 they're just

00:37:32.660 complete hypocrites

00:37:33.820 it's so obvious

00:37:34.820 well I saw the other

00:37:36.820 day that Tucker Carlson

00:37:38.400 who has the largest

00:37:39.300 cable show in America

00:37:41.120 on Fox News

00:37:42.080 very large

00:37:43.180 and I enjoy his program

00:37:46.120 because he interviews

00:37:47.500 unusual guests

00:37:48.560 he has Tulsi Gabbard on

00:37:49.880 and Glenn Greenwald

00:37:51.200 and I think he's

00:37:52.700 actually open minded

00:37:53.560 I mean he has a very

00:37:54.280 strong point of view

00:37:55.200 himself

00:37:56.120 but he's not

00:37:58.100 he surprises people

00:37:59.960 I think

00:38:00.440 I mean he's been

00:38:01.240 very strong on

00:38:02.140 his support

00:38:02.900 for Julian Assange

00:38:03.920 for example

00:38:04.440 he's very critical

00:38:05.160 of the national security

00:38:06.660 deep state

00:38:07.260 so he's

00:38:07.740 he's

00:38:08.900 he's more

00:38:10.180 he's not a down the line

00:38:11.660 Republican

00:38:12.320 and I know

00:38:13.840 he reaches out

00:38:14.640 to liberals

00:38:15.880 or leftists

00:38:16.400 all the time

00:38:16.920 and those who

00:38:17.400 take him up

00:38:17.960 on his invitation

00:38:18.680 usually say

00:38:20.300 they're well treated

00:38:21.000 on his show

00:38:21.580 he certainly gives

00:38:22.260 them equal time

00:38:23.060 I saw you

00:38:24.180 on his show

00:38:24.880 which made me

00:38:26.120 feel great

00:38:26.720 that you're getting

00:38:27.300 such a wide audience

00:38:28.780 but in the back

00:38:29.680 of my mind

00:38:30.120 I also thought

00:38:30.920 I bet you're

00:38:32.760 going to be

00:38:33.120 condemned

00:38:33.700 by some of your

00:38:34.940 former fellow travelers

00:38:36.020 for going on

00:38:36.800 evil Tucker Carlson's

00:38:38.320 show

00:38:38.600 can you tell me

00:38:40.040 what reaction

00:38:40.720 you got

00:38:41.140 for going on

00:38:41.740 that large platform

00:38:42.660 on Fox

00:38:43.280 well I'll be honest

00:38:45.660 I don't

00:38:46.040 the people

00:38:47.680 who I

00:38:48.380 you know

00:38:48.780 used to associate

00:38:49.480 with from the left

00:38:50.080 I don't really

00:38:50.460 talk to anymore

00:38:51.200 I think

00:38:51.740 you know

00:38:52.080 I was on

00:38:52.420 Laura Ingram

00:38:52.920 a few months ago

00:38:53.740 and I go on

00:38:54.200 your show

00:38:54.740 Newsmax

00:38:56.280 and I think

00:38:56.840 you know

00:38:57.080 they're just

00:38:57.460 done with me

00:38:57.900 they hate me

00:38:59.160 so the feedback

00:39:01.160 I got so far

00:39:02.160 has been very good

00:39:02.820 I actually had an

00:39:03.360 outpouring of support

00:39:04.240 and a lot of people

00:39:05.020 who are subject

00:39:05.840 to vaccine mandates

00:39:06.680 emailed me

00:39:07.320 and you know

00:39:08.320 expressed support

00:39:08.920 asked questions

00:39:09.840 asked for help

00:39:10.560 so it was actually

00:39:11.560 an overall pleasant

00:39:12.320 experience

00:39:12.740 I'm sure

00:39:13.960 my former friends

00:39:14.880 are all talking

00:39:16.040 about what an awful

00:39:16.840 right wing

00:39:17.380 nutjob I've become

00:39:18.320 but you know

00:39:18.900 I made peace

00:39:19.680 with that

00:39:20.040 months ago

00:39:20.800 yeah

00:39:22.000 it's very sad

00:39:22.860 I think the worst

00:39:24.020 part of this

00:39:24.540 whole thing

00:39:25.160 is not just

00:39:27.020 the war

00:39:27.420 between the state

00:39:28.260 and the individual

00:39:28.980 it's how it's

00:39:30.200 pitted people

00:39:31.460 against each other

00:39:32.460 shopkeepers

00:39:33.620 against customers

00:39:34.600 who for years

00:39:35.360 they would have

00:39:36.280 only pleasantries

00:39:37.260 and now

00:39:37.820 one is forced

00:39:38.840 to take the role

00:39:39.540 of jailer

00:39:40.220 and the other

00:39:40.700 as you know

00:39:41.800 as a

00:39:44.080 you know

00:39:44.480 a prisoner

00:39:44.980 almost

00:39:45.800 you know

00:39:46.920 secret policeman

00:39:47.880 it reminds me

00:39:49.280 of what life

00:39:49.820 was like

00:39:50.160 under the Soviet 0.70

00:39:50.820 Union

00:39:51.100 informants

00:39:51.940 and scolds

00:39:53.720 and

00:39:54.260 I mean

00:39:55.820 the government

00:39:56.180 did that

00:39:56.740 but the government

00:39:57.540 in the worst

00:39:59.260 way ever

00:39:59.900 and big tech

00:40:01.800 enables this

00:40:02.500 is turning us

00:40:03.300 into each other's

00:40:04.500 enemies

00:40:04.920 and I feel that

00:40:06.500 and I hate that

00:40:07.320 I'm glad you guys

00:40:08.700 are doing what

00:40:09.220 you're doing

00:40:09.580 let me give a

00:40:10.100 shout out

00:40:10.420 to your website

00:40:11.080 ncla.legal

00:40:13.420 new civil

00:40:14.520 it's actually

00:40:15.200 mcla

00:40:15.940 sorry

00:40:16.620 it's mcla

00:40:17.540 legal.org

00:40:18.540 okay

00:40:19.180 I know

00:40:19.440 the word

00:40:20.060 sorry

00:40:20.380 I just tested

00:40:22.800 that

00:40:23.140 but

00:40:23.380 but they're

00:40:24.020 both good

00:40:24.420 ways to go

00:40:25.000 to your

00:40:25.340 to your

00:40:26.140 website

00:40:26.380 and I'm

00:40:27.140 really glad

00:40:27.540 you guys

00:40:27.900 are doing

00:40:28.240 what you're

00:40:28.620 doing

00:40:28.900 and

00:40:29.860 maybe we

00:40:30.620 can even

00:40:31.000 learn

00:40:31.400 from your

00:40:32.380 natural

00:40:32.820 immunity

00:40:33.180 cases

00:40:33.680 down there

00:40:34.260 and apply

00:40:35.000 some of

00:40:35.360 those ideas

00:40:36.200 in our

00:40:36.560 lawsuits

00:40:36.900 up here

00:40:37.320 Janine

00:40:38.040 great to

00:40:38.400 see you

00:40:38.700 thanks for

00:40:39.040 making time

00:40:39.560 for us

00:40:40.080 thank you

00:40:41.760 so much

00:40:42.240 all right

00:40:42.940 there you

00:40:43.160 have it

00:40:43.420 Janine

00:40:43.740 Eunice

00:40:44.160 who is

00:40:44.520 a lawyer

00:40:44.900 with the

00:40:45.720 new

00:40:45.900 civil

00:40:46.180 liberties

00:40:46.540 alliance

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00:41:04.480 show last

00:41:04.900 night

00:41:05.180 night guard

00:41:06.160 writes

00:41:06.680 they want

00:41:07.840 me to

00:41:08.080 hate myself

00:41:08.700 which is

00:41:09.100 why I

00:41:09.600 do not

00:41:10.220 yeah

00:41:11.840 you know

00:41:12.320 what

00:41:12.540 it's

00:41:13.060 interesting

00:41:13.560 the people

00:41:13.940 who come

00:41:14.360 to Canada

00:41:14.860 don't hate

00:41:15.700 Canada

00:41:16.240 as much

00:41:17.180 as natural

00:41:17.780 born

00:41:18.020 Canadians

00:41:18.440 white

00:41:19.020 non-visible

00:41:20.000 minority

00:41:20.420 Canadians

00:41:20.840 and I

00:41:22.120 think that

00:41:22.520 Canada is

00:41:22.860 one of the

00:41:23.220 great

00:41:23.460 achievements

00:41:23.880 in the

00:41:24.200 world

00:41:24.420 it's a

00:41:25.140 liberal

00:41:25.320 democracy

00:41:25.960 because we

00:41:27.300 were part

00:41:27.600 of the

00:41:27.760 British

00:41:27.960 Empire

00:41:28.280 we were

00:41:28.660 very

00:41:29.020 very early

00:41:29.660 outlawing

00:41:30.180 slavery

00:41:30.620 it really

00:41:30.980 never took

00:41:31.400 root

00:41:31.640 here

00:41:31.920 in fact

00:41:33.100 not to

00:41:34.020 be politically

00:41:34.440 incorrect

00:41:34.820 about it

00:41:35.160 but the

00:41:35.760 slavery

00:41:36.200 the dominant

00:41:36.880 slavery

00:41:37.380 in Canada

00:41:38.120 when it

00:41:38.580 was banned

00:41:39.420 was

00:41:40.040 indigenous

00:41:40.940 slavery

00:41:41.500 different

00:41:41.940 bands

00:41:42.760 and tribes

00:41:43.380 taking each

00:41:44.440 other's

00:41:44.760 slaves

00:41:45.120 there were

00:41:46.160 a grand

00:41:46.680 total of

00:41:47.140 16 black

00:41:48.040 people in

00:41:48.520 all of

00:41:48.800 Toronto

00:41:49.140 when the

00:41:50.840 first laws

00:41:51.340 against slavery

00:41:51.860 were brought

00:41:52.320 in

00:41:52.540 thank god

00:41:53.400 it was

00:41:53.840 never

00:41:54.180 we don't

00:41:55.080 have that

00:41:55.380 original sin

00:41:56.180 as America

00:41:57.260 did

00:41:57.680 we don't

00:42:00.140 have a

00:42:00.980 perfect past

00:42:02.640 but as

00:42:03.320 countries go

00:42:04.080 I think

00:42:04.700 we've had a

00:42:05.160 pretty good

00:42:05.600 background

00:42:06.040 and you know

00:42:06.820 even the

00:42:07.300 French English

00:42:08.100 compact

00:42:09.180 how the

00:42:09.720 French and

00:42:10.060 English

00:42:10.340 have more

00:42:11.060 or less

00:42:11.280 coexisted

00:42:11.960 here since

00:42:12.300 the battle

00:42:12.620 of the

00:42:12.800 plains of

00:42:13.140 Abraham

00:42:13.420 that's a

00:42:14.380 pretty good

00:42:14.860 success story

00:42:15.660 compared to

00:42:16.160 oh I don't

00:42:16.560 know

00:42:16.780 Rwanda and

00:42:17.800 the Tutsis

00:42:18.460 and the

00:42:18.800 Hutus 0.99

00:42:19.240 so I think

00:42:20.700 anyone coming

00:42:21.720 to Canada

00:42:22.260 from one of the

00:42:23.040 other almost

00:42:23.460 200 countries

00:42:24.240 in the world

00:42:24.660 odds are you're

00:42:25.640 coming to Canada

00:42:26.180 from somewhere

00:42:26.720 that was

00:42:27.140 terrible by

00:42:29.120 comparison

00:42:29.720 not even

00:42:30.500 good to

00:42:31.280 you come to

00:42:31.740 Canada from

00:42:32.100 the United

00:42:32.340 States

00:42:32.720 you come to

00:42:33.460 Canada from

00:42:33.800 Belgium

00:42:34.280 you're coming

00:42:34.880 from a pretty

00:42:35.340 good place

00:42:35.900 but most

00:42:36.620 places in

00:42:37.140 the world

00:42:37.420 are horrific

00:42:38.680 but they

00:42:40.420 haven't been

00:42:40.960 taught to

00:42:41.460 hate Canada

00:42:42.120 or at least

00:42:42.980 not yet

00:42:43.620 they believe

00:42:45.000 their eyes

00:42:45.740 that this is

00:42:46.500 one of the

00:42:46.780 best places

00:42:47.320 in the world

00:42:47.740 our teachers

00:42:48.420 immediately go

00:42:49.620 to work on

00:42:50.160 them and tell

00:42:50.700 them how

00:42:50.980 wrong they

00:42:51.380 are

00:42:52.440 Max writes

00:42:53.620 I just want

00:42:54.240 to go to

00:42:54.500 school and

00:42:54.900 the government

00:42:55.200 took that

00:42:55.640 from me

00:42:56.100 they took

00:42:56.480 our future

00:42:57.060 oh it's

00:42:58.240 worse than

00:42:58.660 that you

00:42:59.180 know imagine

00:42:59.780 you're in

00:43:00.120 your third

00:43:00.540 year or your

00:43:01.040 fourth year

00:43:01.520 of your degree

00:43:02.140 and you're

00:43:03.000 told you

00:43:03.660 cannot finish

00:43:04.480 your degree

00:43:04.880 your entire

00:43:05.400 life and

00:43:06.520 career path

00:43:07.300 is put on

00:43:08.000 hold

00:43:08.380 cancelled if

00:43:09.400 you don't

00:43:09.680 get this

00:43:10.080 jab I

00:43:10.560 think it's

00:43:11.040 nuts

00:43:11.500 well I'm

00:43:13.300 going to

00:43:13.500 say goodbye

00:43:13.980 to you

00:43:14.220 now but

00:43:14.720 as we

00:43:15.100 always do

00:43:15.880 now not

00:43:16.620 always we

00:43:17.040 just started

00:43:17.500 this we're

00:43:17.960 going to

00:43:18.280 show you

00:43:18.760 what we

00:43:19.120 call a

00:43:19.380 video of

00:43:19.780 the day

00:43:20.200 and there's

00:43:21.780 so much

00:43:22.120 cooking here

00:43:22.980 at Rebel

00:43:23.220 News we've

00:43:23.480 got so much

00:43:23.980 talent and

00:43:25.440 one of our

00:43:26.200 most talented

00:43:27.180 newcomers is a

00:43:28.140 citizen journalist

00:43:28.960 from Quebec

00:43:29.600 City

00:43:29.920 Alexandra

00:43:31.020 Lavoie

00:43:31.620 and she was

00:43:32.920 the star of

00:43:33.640 the leaders

00:43:33.980 debate questions

00:43:34.940 and she

00:43:36.100 even did

00:43:36.440 a report

00:43:36.840 from Toronto

00:43:37.560 it's fun

00:43:38.020 to see her

00:43:38.520 in this

00:43:39.200 city although

00:43:40.140 she holds

00:43:40.560 the Ford

00:43:40.820 Quebec pretty

00:43:41.380 well so I'm

00:43:41.860 going to leave

00:43:42.160 you with this

00:43:42.560 video but before

00:43:43.600 I'm due I'm

00:43:44.240 going to say

00:43:44.620 goodbye and

00:43:45.720 on behalf of

00:43:46.280 all of us here

00:43:46.900 from Rebel

00:43:47.420 World headquarters

00:43:48.100 to you at

00:43:48.580 home keep

00:43:49.880 fighting for

00:43:50.520 freedom

00:43:50.840 all right here's

00:43:51.720 our video of

00:43:52.220 the day

00:43:52.500 well I've never

00:43:54.020 believed in

00:43:54.620 proof everyone

00:43:55.580 gets their

00:43:56.180 proof when they

00:43:56.880 get the

00:43:57.100 vaccination you're

00:43:57.900 right anything

00:43:58.380 can be fraudulent

00:43:59.220 and break down

00:43:59.740 from money to

00:44:00.940 certifications I

00:44:02.940 just know we

00:44:03.740 aren't doing it

00:44:04.220 simple as that

00:44:05.280 this morning

00:44:06.620 Ontario launched

00:44:07.840 its own vaccine

00:44:08.920 certificate as of

00:44:10.720 today Ontarians

00:44:12.060 will need to

00:44:12.820 provide proof of

00:44:13.560 vaccination before

00:44:14.980 entering certain

00:44:15.820 high-risk indoor

00:44:16.680 settings

00:44:17.260 I personally I

00:44:35.560 like wearing a

00:44:36.160 mask I'm pro

00:44:36.820 vaccine but as

00:44:38.000 long as it's a

00:44:38.500 pacific protest and

00:44:39.960 there is you know

00:44:40.460 they're not you

00:44:41.560 know there's no

00:44:42.480 chaos I think it's

00:44:43.500 fair and valid

00:44:44.160 because you know

00:44:44.660 this is a free

00:44:45.220 country we're just

00:44:46.160 against the mandates

00:44:47.000 and for freedom

00:44:47.920 obviously we just

00:44:49.200 both lost our jobs

00:44:50.260 at the hospital we

00:44:51.100 work at so we're

00:44:53.140 here supporting

00:44:53.780 freedom I'm a

00:44:54.760 second-class citizen

00:44:55.520 now there's ways

00:44:56.940 around it for now

00:44:57.780 I'll say but I

00:44:59.300 mean still we're

00:45:00.520 still it's still

00:45:02.400 participation I

00:45:03.420 don't I'm not

00:45:04.040 doing that honestly

00:45:05.200 it's it's been

00:45:05.920 almost two years I

00:45:06.820 just don't really

00:45:07.300 care anymore I'm

00:45:08.340 done I'm double

00:45:08.880 vaxxed I got my

00:45:10.060 job back I got

00:45:11.360 money in the bank

00:45:12.080 off serbs so I

00:45:13.820 mean they can do

00:45:14.420 them and I'm gonna

00:45:14.980 do me and yeah

00:45:16.120 freedom right

00:45:16.980 I'm in Toronto in

00:45:25.920 Dundas Square a

00:45:27.740 protest just started

00:45:29.000 I'm gonna ask them

00:45:31.060 what are y'all

00:45:31.780 thinking about the

00:45:32.700 new vaccine passport

00:45:33.900 that just been

00:45:35.240 started here in

00:45:37.040 Ontario and

00:45:38.860 probably asking a

00:45:40.860 couple of other

00:45:41.520 questions so keep

00:45:42.320 watching

00:45:42.820 why are you

00:45:50.520 protesting today

00:45:51.860 so the main thing

00:45:53.200 is to just get rid

00:45:53.980 of this virus as I

00:45:55.060 said yesterday it's

00:45:56.280 been too much people

00:45:57.540 are fed up and just

00:45:59.540 having that rule after

00:46:01.100 rule after rule it's

00:46:02.080 just non-stop it just

00:46:03.100 keeps going and

00:46:04.260 protesting because a

00:46:05.760 lot of people are for

00:46:06.720 masks for vaccines I

00:46:08.340 want people to do

00:46:09.020 whatever's right for

00:46:09.700 their own safety but

00:46:11.140 there shouldn't be

00:46:11.700 mandates people

00:46:12.800 shouldn't be losing

00:46:13.560 their jobs their

00:46:14.720 freedoms over this

00:46:15.800 we're just against the

00:46:16.580 mandates and for

00:46:17.520 freedom obviously we

00:46:19.020 just both lost our

00:46:19.920 jobs at the hospital we

00:46:21.100 work at so we're here

00:46:23.340 supporting freedom I

00:46:24.780 hope we finally feel

00:46:25.880 started to realize

00:46:27.820 what's happening and

00:46:28.720 take action I'm

00:46:30.740 protesting the lockdown

00:46:31.620 and the vaccine

00:46:32.240 passports I'm here for

00:46:33.260 an education too I want

00:46:34.240 to learn more keep

00:46:34.900 learning that's why I

00:46:36.040 watch rebel news

00:46:36.660 because I keep

00:46:37.040 learning the truth

00:46:37.720 that's that's why I'm

00:46:39.420 here okay I just

00:46:40.640 wanted to give a quick

00:46:41.340 message to the police

00:46:42.100 force of Toronto I

00:46:42.940 think you guys are

00:46:43.460 doing an amazing job

00:46:44.400 we're all behind you

00:46:45.720 and there may come

00:46:46.960 times in your in your

00:46:47.820 career shortly where

00:46:48.580 you want to do

00:46:49.560 something and you

00:46:50.040 don't you don't feel

00:46:50.600 like anybody has your

00:46:52.100 back you're all alone

00:46:53.120 you're not everyone

00:46:54.480 here is on your side

00:46:55.440 and saving lives will

00:46:57.000 never ever go out of

00:46:57.920 style I ask people

00:46:59.640 what they think about

00:47:00.860 the protest that's

00:47:01.800 going on in the other

00:47:02.640 side of the street

00:47:03.460 protest so I think

00:47:05.640 that people has you

00:47:06.560 know the right to you

00:47:08.600 know freedom of speech

00:47:09.600 so I think if they want

00:47:10.860 to you know express

00:47:12.580 themselves saying that

00:47:13.480 they're against vaccinations

00:47:14.880 or against mask usage I

00:47:16.240 think they should have

00:47:16.800 the right to do so I

00:47:18.680 personally I like wearing

00:47:19.780 a mask I'm pro vaccine

00:47:21.100 but as long as it's a

00:47:22.140 pacific protest and there

00:47:23.820 is you know they're not

00:47:24.620 you know there's no chaos

00:47:26.720 I think it's fair and

00:47:27.580 valid because you know

00:47:28.400 this is a free country

00:47:29.420 they're allowed to protest

00:47:30.520 I don't disagree with what

00:47:31.860 they're saying but like

00:47:33.660 what will I do like I'm

00:47:35.040 not gonna force them

00:47:36.680 think a certain way or

00:47:38.000 not do whatever they're

00:47:40.540 doing it's good that

00:47:42.200 people is expressing

00:47:43.780 themselves honestly it's

00:47:45.580 been almost two years I

00:47:46.880 just don't really care

00:47:47.600 anymore I'm done I'm

00:47:48.720 double vaxxed I got my

00:47:50.120 job back I got money in

00:47:51.740 the bank off serbs so I 0.69

00:47:53.880 mean they can do them and

00:47:54.820 I'm gonna do me and yeah

00:47:56.180 freedom right what do you

00:47:57.740 think about the vaccine

00:47:58.640 passport that's now it's a

00:48:00.300 reality here in Ontario

00:48:03.900 well I mean I haven't

00:48:04.980 really thought about it I

00:48:05.800 mean the thing is that I

00:48:09.580 understand that the way

00:48:11.340 people think it's divisive

00:48:13.220 but I think we have a

00:48:16.320 pretty good idea so far

00:48:18.180 that you know the vaccines

00:48:21.480 have a positive effect in

00:48:24.900 constraining the effects of

00:48:25.860 the virus and it spread and

00:48:30.300 since the vaccine passport

00:48:31.960 is now a reality for you in

00:48:34.340 Ontario did that affect your

00:48:36.880 lifestyle it does if you let

00:48:39.440 the fear in if you if you

00:48:42.080 start forgetting where you

00:48:43.120 come from if you start

00:48:44.180 forgetting the past because

00:48:46.240 we were free it wasn't that

00:48:47.840 long ago it did I mean

00:48:49.680 here's the thing like some

00:48:50.620 people don't want to take it

00:48:51.520 why it's personal they don't

00:48:53.280 know what's in there I'm

00:48:54.280 going to ask if I'm going to

00:48:55.380 get a shot that I don't know

00:48:56.080 what's inside why am I going

00:48:56.880 to take it yes yes it did

00:48:58.620 actually it's kind of

00:49:00.380 frightening actually I have a

00:49:04.560 daughter who's very very

00:49:05.500 liberal she's absolutely

00:49:07.560 convinced that if I didn't get

00:49:08.800 a vaccine I was going to die

00:49:10.100 it will at some point because

00:49:12.460 employees say requires

00:49:15.280 vaccine passport now

00:49:16.780 retails but as much as I can I

00:49:20.440 will resist it yeah it's pretty

00:49:23.380 messed up yeah so how did that

00:49:26.480 affect your life well we can't

00:49:28.720 participate in society until we

00:49:30.680 comply which is a word that I

00:49:32.380 absolutely detest but yeah we're

00:49:34.560 we're effectively not really

00:49:35.760 members of society anymore I

00:49:37.200 can't make a living anymore I

00:49:38.920 can't participate in society

00:49:40.280 like a normal person anymore I'm

00:49:42.160 not sick of course like what am

00:49:45.860 I supposed I'm a second class

00:49:46.860 citizen now there's ways around

00:49:48.960 it for now I'll say but I mean

00:49:51.140 still we're still it's still

00:49:54.060 participation I don't I'm not

00:49:55.700 doing that

00:49:56.200 almost the end of the protest

00:50:01.500 the end fun fact at the

00:50:03.420 beginning it was okay that's a

00:50:05.740 small protest but fun fact another

00:50:09.240 protest came like a rally came to

00:50:11.820 join the other products that were

00:50:13.920 here at the square so it was just

00:50:17.580 amazing to see like the two

00:50:19.260 convergence of protests bringing

00:50:22.120 all together so it was Alex

00:50:24.900 several venues in Toronto downtown

00:50:27.340 you

00:50:28.400 you

00:50:30.400 you

00:50:32.400 you

00:50:34.400 you

00:50:36.400 you

00:50:38.400 you

00:50:40.400 you

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Rebel News Podcast - October 01, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ After pressuring millions of people to take the Moderna vaccine, Ontario’s government warns against it

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