Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ As Canada returns to normal, what's next for Rebel News？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. I sort of take a step back and say, okay, now that the lockdowns are lifting in

00:00:04.780 many provinces and around the world, what do we do next? What should Rebel News do? What should

00:00:09.140 we do with this great civil liberties law firm that we've cobbled together? What should we do

00:00:14.180 with all these reporters? I'll share some ideas, and I'll ask for your advice, too. That's next.

00:00:18.960 Before I get to that, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's the

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00:00:30.000 Tonight, the lockdowns are slowly easing. What's the Rebel going to do in the months

00:00:49.300 ahead? It's July 6th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:55.140 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:58.680 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:03.000 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's

00:01:07.400 my bloody right to do so.

00:01:14.100 Lockdowns are being lifted around the world. In Alberta, it was on July 1st that most of

00:01:20.240 the rules came down. I think that caught some of the bureaucrats and enforcers and cops out

00:01:25.640 there off guard. They forgot that they had a Christian pastor in prison, and they said,

00:01:31.720 well, gee, if the lockdown doesn't exist anymore, why exactly are we keeping this pastor in prison?

00:01:38.120 What's our excuse besides vengeance? And so they let him out. I think they literally forgot

00:01:44.360 that they had imprisoned him. So he's out now. As you may have seen, Sheila Gunn-Reed was at that

00:01:50.840 Grace Life Church in Edmonton that was expropriated for several months by the government. The government

00:01:57.960 put their latrines right on the stairs, the entryway to the stairs, just to desecrate that

00:02:04.480 church, show them who's boss. Well, that filth is removed, and the police are gone, and it's now back

00:02:11.520 in the hands of the congregants. Things are returning to normal in some ways. Drea Humphrey and Matt

00:02:18.700 Brevner were out at a music festival in British Columbia. I think the first time that's been

00:02:23.700 legal in over a year and a half. We talk a lot about restaurants and gyms and retail shops and

00:02:30.240 barbers and things like that, but the entire industry of performers, whether that's music or

00:02:36.100 comedians or everything in between, has simply been cancelled. Imagine those folks trying to earn a

00:02:42.580 living. It was nice to see some life return there. There are some professional lockdownists that are

00:02:50.480 trying to stop this. In Calgary, a bunch of little fascists on their city council refused to lift the

00:02:58.180 mask mandate even after the provincial rules came down. That only lasted four days before the rest of

00:03:04.760 the city said, are you crazy? I think the answer is yes, of course, but they're not that crazy.

00:03:12.040 There's an election in Calgary this fall. Would you want to be the alderman saying, no, no, no, no.

00:03:16.860 I want to force everyone to wear a mask. You can wear a mask yourself. Now, that said, you can see

00:03:21.820 little tyrannies popping up in other places, like the private sector or the quasi-private sector. I saw

00:03:27.920 this news out of Calgary today. The Calgary Stampede is going to have a sort of mask apartheid or mask

00:03:35.800 segregation. If you give them proof that you're vaccinated, if you show a kind of vaccine passport,

00:03:42.320 you can get in. Without it, you're going to have to take a test and probably wear a mask. Yeah, no,

00:03:48.420 I don't think little tyrannies can be delegated to the corporate sector or the quasi-corporate sector

00:03:53.920 like that. I think we're going to have to do some suing to get people's sense back. I live in

00:03:59.640 Toronto, which of course is the most locked down city in the world, according to the BBC. As far

00:04:05.100 as I know, Toronto is the only city in North America where restaurants are not open at all.

00:04:10.580 You can have some people on the patio outside, but no one on the inside. Incredibly, there's not even a

00:04:16.660 plan for a projected or hoped-for return to normalcy. That's how crazy it is in Toronto.

00:04:24.380 But the rest of the country is slowly returning to normal. So what next? What next for Rebel News?

00:04:32.000 We changed and started so many things in our company because of the pandemic. For example,

00:04:37.760 there was so much news about the pandemic, it was then that we started our daily live streams.

00:04:43.640 Before that, we had just used our live streams for very special events like election night shows,

00:04:49.360 which were very successful. But because of the news and the pandemic, we started our daily shows,

00:04:54.260 which I think have been a hit. Now, they've been demonetized by YouTube, which kicks a $400,000

00:04:59.640 hole in our company. But we still do them because we love to talk to our people and we love the feedback

00:05:05.360 that the chats of these live streams give us. But what about our reporters? We've had so many

00:05:12.040 reporters on the pandemic beat. You may even know that last year we had a Rebbe Award. That's our

00:05:18.340 in-house awards for best pandemic journalist. David Menzies, Tamara Ugolini joined us. We found her as

00:05:25.300 a client in a Fight the Fines campaign. She was walking on a beach, got a ticket. She was so articulate

00:05:31.760 that we said, well, we got to give that gal a job. And she works for us. The rest is history.

00:05:36.720 We have grown our team during the pandemic to cover the news. Drea Humphrey and Matt Brevner,

00:05:44.220 who I mentioned earlier, out west in Vancouver. And Adam Sos, who joined us. And Kian Simone,

00:05:50.200 we call him K2 because we had another Kian in Calgary too. And even young Daniel Day joining us

00:05:56.820 in Edmonton. Out here in Ontario, we've grown too. Catherine Krasinowski and other journalists,

00:06:02.380 Andrew Chapados, now has a weekly show. The team at Rebel News, and I'm sorry I'm not listing everyone,

00:06:07.760 but it's growing all the time. And we've also expanded even into Quebec in both the English

00:06:14.200 language and French. Alexandre Lavoie does a great job in telling the other side of the story in the

00:06:21.480 other language. And we've really planted the flag in Quebec, including Yankee Pollack, who really

00:06:27.440 wasn't supposed to even be an on-camera guy. He's our social media organizer based in Montreal.

00:06:34.020 And he just started going out in the curfew when Montreal was actually locked down like children

00:06:39.980 at night. And he did great journalism out there. So what do we do with this company?

00:06:45.040 What do we do with this Rebel News that is so geared towards pandemic journalism?

00:06:50.820 Now that the pandemic is receding. Well, I think the first thing to know is that the pandemic

00:06:56.020 may be receding. In fact, statistically, it's not even a pandemic anymore. But lockdownism is stronger

00:07:04.140 than ever. Oh, sure, that some of the rules are being lifted. But the idea that you can lock down

00:07:10.240 an entire population, that you can tell people where they can go, if they can work, what the rules are

00:07:17.080 for them to visit their own members of the family, if they can even go out on the street, the idea

00:07:21.600 that these fascist or communist ideas could be implemented with general public support or at

00:07:29.300 least no major public resistance is shocking. And it's a lesson that won't be lost on the

00:07:35.400 communists and fascists in our society. And when I say communists and fascists, I actually mean those

00:07:40.920 words. Later today, we'll talk to Mark Morano of Climate Depot about a lifelong communist who couldn't

00:07:47.140 be more delighted than to have the levers of lockdownism at her control. In New Zealand, 0.98

00:07:52.960 you'll hear how lockdownism is being prescribed for climate lockdowns and climate emergencies. I guess

00:07:58.600 what I'm saying is Western society was put to the test on how easily we'd give up our liberties and

00:08:04.120 we failed. I don't think we failed here at Rebel News. We weren't perfect. We didn't get everything

00:08:08.380 right. But I think we did more journalism that was skeptical of the lockdowns and that actually went

00:08:13.660 and followed the facts wherever they led more than any other news source in Canada. I think we were

00:08:18.820 the only people telling the story from the citizen's point of view, as opposed from the bureaucracy's

00:08:24.220 point of view, the government's point of view, the prosecution's point of view. Of course, one of the

00:08:29.680 largest things we did, one of the largest things we've ever done was our fightthefines.com project.

00:08:35.600 It started with Arthur Pawlowski, a Christian pastor who got a huge ticket for feeding the homeless.

00:08:41.420 You'll remember that videotape. It turned into, well, last we checked in with Victoria Solomon,

00:08:46.820 1,834 cases. Since then, I'm sure we've come close to 2,000. But the good news is

00:08:54.280 the governments across Canada are starting to drop those cases because are they really going to

00:09:00.220 prosecute 2,000 trials? So we're getting news of cases being dropped. And in fact, as all of these

00:09:06.480 cases age, they're at risk of being thrown out for want of prosecution. As you know,

00:09:12.320 our Charter of Rights guarantees the right to a speedy trial. If you don't have a trial within one,

00:09:17.980 two, three years, there's no way that's legal. I think we could have massive victories. I think

00:09:24.120 that there are some vengeful prosecutors. We've seen that in Alberta against the pastors, certainly.

00:09:29.600 We've got some vengeful politicians. We see that, for example, Brian Pallister in Manitoba. And I

00:09:36.680 understand New Brunswick is particularly harsh. But out of the 1,834 people we've been defending,

00:09:41.900 it would not surprise me if more than 1,500 of them simply had their cases dropped. And I consider

00:09:48.940 that a tremendous victory because we stopped them from paying the fines they shouldn't have done.

00:09:53.820 We stopped them from, in some cases, getting a criminal record. And we let the government know

00:09:58.980 that someone at least was pushing back compared to the Canadian Civil Liberties Association for whom

00:10:05.480 this was their worst moment. This was their hour to shine. And in fact, they hid. And it was even

00:10:11.340 worse in British Columbia, the BC Civil Liberties Association, which didn't lift a finger to stop the

00:10:17.040 lockdown. They actually have gone totally crazy, as you know from my show the other day, endorsing

00:10:22.560 the torching of Catholic churches and standing by that. I want to show you a wonderful little 0.52

00:10:28.720 videotape by an Aboriginal woman who's actually a descendant of a residential school survivor,

00:10:34.000 she calls herself, condemning Harshawalia and the BC Civil Liberties Association for sowing seeds of

00:10:41.820 hate themselves. You just got to listen to this. Listen to this.

00:10:44.520 As a Native way, we do not condone destruction of worship places. As Indigenous people, we do not

00:10:49.800 spread hate. How we got here was a result of hate. Someone hated us Indigenous people and felt the

00:10:55.460 need to destroy us and our culture. And so 150 years later, we're still at this place where we're

00:11:00.260 having religious wars with each other. Well, we hate you because you hated this, you hated that. And so

00:11:04.660 people are burning down people's places of worship as a result of this hate. And I explained to Harshawali

00:11:11.460 how her behavior is keeping that spirit of hate going. And as I explained earlier, I said to her,

00:11:16.920 if you keep this up, this is going to cause a very evil spirit to come to life and spread across this

00:11:21.420 country and destroy it.

00:11:22.460 So it sounds like you, I understand you're accepting her explanation.

00:11:26.460 I accept, yes, I accept.

00:11:28.120 But words matter to you.

00:11:29.460 Yes. That's why I very strongly said to her what I said. And I said, okay, I'll forgive you for what

00:11:35.800 you've said. And I, um, okay, whatever, like, you know, whatever your excuses, whatever. But I'm

00:11:40.620 going to explain to you why what you said is so damaging and dangerous in this country,

00:11:44.400 especially a person who's a leader of a human rights organization.

00:11:48.800 So what do we do? Do we wind down our fight the fines project? What do we do with all these

00:11:54.200 great journalists we have? Well, I think the first thing to know is that although some of

00:11:58.140 these cases will be dropped, there will be other cases that continue. And look, we've managed to

00:12:03.020 build a national civil liberties law firm. And we've teamed up with a civil liberties charity,

00:12:09.680 the Democracy Fund. I think we've got to keep that civil liberties national law firm,

00:12:15.940 public interest law firm going, for other things too. As you know, because we've been talking about

00:12:22.300 it for six months, uh, Justin Trudeau, and especially his cabinet minister, Stephen Gilboa,

00:12:26.820 have plans to regulate the internet, to regulate your Facebook posts, your YouTube videos. And not just

00:12:34.560 you, of course, I think they're really aiming at guys like us who tell the other side of the story.

00:12:38.400 So I think the need to have civil liberties lawyers nationally is as keen as ever, especially given

00:12:44.660 the failure of the traditional civil liberties groups. I think some of our charter challenges have

00:12:50.780 become moot. That is, we were challenging the law under the charter, but now the law is being rescinded.

00:12:56.480 Is there a point going forward? Well, we'll have to think about those on a case-by-case basis.

00:13:02.100 But I think we're just starting to see the development of vaccine passports, which I find 1.00

00:13:08.240 terrifying. And the idea that any shopkeeper, any airline, any hotel, any government agent can now

00:13:14.660 demand to know your most private health details, I find deeply contrary to Canadian values of privacy

00:13:21.820 and equal rights. And I think we're going to have some major charter litigation there.

00:13:25.440 But I think the next phase beyond the lockdown is, I think we're upon a Canadian election. I don't

00:13:33.260 think that's going to come to you as news for me to say so. It wouldn't surprise me if the election

00:13:38.340 is formally called in August, when most Canadians are too busy enjoying summer and the barbecue circuit

00:13:44.460 and traveling again for the first time in a year and a half. And I think Justin Trudeau, well, that'll

00:13:48.700 suit him just fine. He won't have to do a lot of campaign events. He'll do a Joe Biden style,

00:13:53.940 stay in the basement, don't take real questions style campaign, and just sort of cruise into

00:13:59.280 victory, which I'm afraid he'll win, judging by the polls. And it's not just one poll and not just

00:14:04.240 one pollster. Every single poll shows that Aaron O'Toole is on a trend, not just to lose the next

00:14:12.420 election, but to lose badly, possibly even losing his own seat. In the Durham riding, he's actually lost

00:14:20.020 votes every single time. He's at the risk of losing his own seat, which I think would do the

00:14:25.400 Conservative Party a great favor. I think we have to cover the election in our passionate,

00:14:31.080 high-energy way that we did last time, getting our reporters on planes flying around to where the

00:14:37.000 news is, not just staying in the studio. I think, frankly, I've got to finish my new book and get that

00:14:42.320 out quickly on Trudeau. I'm sure I'll get another inquiry and investigation and prosecution by Elections

00:14:48.360 Canada. But again, that just goes to the need for these books because censorship is upon us.

00:14:54.220 I think what we're going to see, especially in the next election, is how soft the media has become,

00:15:00.660 what several years of being rented out by Trudeau's media bailout really looks like. I think it is

00:15:06.980 without a doubt that we and other Conservative journalists will be kept out of the federal leaders

00:15:12.640 debate, as was done to us last time. I think that's a certainty. I think if I write another book on

00:15:17.960 time, I think it's a certainty that'll be prosecuted. But I think what will become more and more evident

00:15:23.620 is that the rest of the media has just become ancillaries of the Liberal Party, and they really

00:15:29.460 want Justin Trudeau to win again because that's who their de facto employer is. I think we're going

00:15:35.740 to have some keen problems, some sharp, acute problems if Trudeau does get re-elected, as I fear

00:15:41.500 he will in September. You know he was pushing to get C-10, his Regulate the Internet bill passed. It

00:15:48.680 was a miracle it was stopped right before Parliament broke. And just before Parliament broke, they

00:15:54.020 introduced C-36 to bring back the hate speech counterfeit right not to be offended, but with

00:16:01.720 terrible new additions like the fact that there will be secret witnesses and secret complaints,

00:16:07.440 complaints. And you can get someone arrested with a house arrest for a pre-crime that they haven't

00:16:13.140 committed yet. Terrible things. You bet we're going to need both our journalism and our civil

00:16:19.880 liberties litigation for that. Besides just those issues, though, I think Canada is going to be in

00:16:25.540 for a bumpy ride. Did you know that our unemployment rate actually ticked up last month? It should be 0.79

00:16:30.980 going down, that we're coming out of lockdown, shouldn't it? I think inflation is heating up. I think

00:16:37.060 debt is at staggering levels. I'm really worried about the economy, actually, something I haven't

00:16:41.900 said since 2008. I think what's very disturbing is how Trudeau wants to create a race war. I already

00:16:50.140 showed you a taste of that with the comments about burning churches. That Indigenous woman who said,

00:16:57.120 stop the hate, stop putting us against each other. We haven't heard anything that clear from Justin

00:17:01.420 Trudeau. In fact, he only had this 16-second comment when he was asked about burning churches. Remember

00:17:07.400 this? Hey, I also want to talk about the arson and vandalism we're seeing across the country

00:17:12.320 targeted at Catholic churches. This is not the way to go. The destruction of places of worship

00:17:19.580 is unacceptable, and it must stop. We must work together to right past wrongs. Everyone has the

00:17:29.240 role to play, not just institutions and organizations, but all Canadians, Indigenous and non-Indigenous.

00:17:37.560 Hey, man, that's probably not the right way to go. Can you imagine such a tepid denunciation if it

00:17:42.860 were Jewish synagogues or Muslim mosques being torched? I think Trudeau wants to limit Parliament.

00:17:49.920 You can see he's already suing Parliament because the Speaker ruled against him. I think he wants to

00:17:55.760 eliminate dissent in the media. I think he wants to control the internet, and I think he wants to keep

00:18:01.760 the trappings of the quasi-police state that we had during the lockdown, which is one of the reasons he

00:18:08.300 hasn't lifted the lockdown. We have the most bizarre and onerous quarantine rules in the world.

00:18:15.260 But what about us? We're going to keep the national law firm. We're going to keep our great team.

00:18:21.120 They'll still talk about the lockdown, where it exists, but they're going to cover so many other

00:18:25.480 issues. I feel like we've got our biggest team ever. We're going to fly a bit more again. We used

00:18:30.540 to have people flying around like crazy. I think we're going to do that now that airlines are picking

00:18:35.440 up again, and there's more schedules. We're going to have events again. We were barred by law from

00:18:41.480 having our big rebel conferences or our little rebel get-togethers. We're going to start. In fact,

00:18:46.060 we've got news coming very soon about our first big event, which will be in Alberta. We're going to

00:18:50.980 publish more books. As you know, in the last year, we published The ABCs of Islamism by our chairman

00:18:56.880 of our advisory board, Raheel Raza, and we just published Unsporting, a book by Coach Linda Blade and

00:19:02.820 Barbara Kane. I want to publish a lot more books, and we're doing good on the merchandise side.

00:19:07.500 It's just a fun thing, and it helps pay some bills. And there's an idea I'm not quite ready to share

00:19:12.940 yet, but we've been working on it behind the scenes, I think, to expand Rebel News and to do so with an

00:19:19.840 idea we've never really tried out before, a form of going public to allow people to invest in Rebel

00:19:27.020 News to help fund our growth. Until now, it's just been, as they say, eat what we kill. We raise

00:19:33.720 funds through crowdfunding, and we hire staff, and we just sort of live really on a month-to-month

00:19:38.300 basis. But what would happen if we actually raised some money? I mean, a few million dollars. We paid

00:19:43.600 off our debts last year because of the gratitude of our, the generosity of our supporters. But what

00:19:49.960 if we could actually expand, if we had a pool of funds to invest thoughtfully and strategically?

00:19:55.160 I don't want to get ahead of myself, but we are looking at a securities-compliant way to raise

00:20:00.400 funds for an expanded Rebel News. So we're not going away. We're not done. The lockdown and the

00:20:06.880 pandemic and the extremism of the public health officials and the extremism of the police and the

00:20:12.440 fact that the entire establishment, the governing parties and the opposition parties, the think tanks,

00:20:18.480 the academics, the media, the lawyers, the courts, popular culture, every single other institution

00:20:25.900 in society was pro-lockdown. All the civil liberties groups were silent or actually in favor. All the

00:20:31.940 churches, except for a handful, actually loved the lockdown and said so. We stood alone or almost

00:20:39.000 alone. The Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms was there too. True North News was there too. And I've

00:20:43.940 gone through the whole list. There were a handful of independent politicians who were with us, but I'm

00:20:50.000 afraid they're not going to be in Parliament soon. Randy Hillier, Derek Sloan, Maxime Bernier. One of

00:20:55.400 those isn't even in Parliament anymore, and I think the next two won't be soon either. I think a lot of

00:21:00.380 it falls to Rebel News to keep fighting the good fight and telling the other side of the story.

00:21:06.120 I'm excited that the lockdown is being lifted. I'm not grateful to our politicians because they took

00:21:11.240 those liberties away from us improperly in the first place. But I'm excited about the opportunities

00:21:16.200 it gives us as Rebel News to really increase our efforts, to meet with our viewers again, to have

00:21:21.500 Rebel Live conferences and to expand our work. If you agree with me, let me know. Send me an email

00:21:27.500 to ezra at rebelnews.com and tell me what you'd like to see in the months ahead as Rebel News gears up

00:21:33.560 for the election and beyond. Well, that's my monologue. Coming up next, my interview with our friend

00:21:39.200 Mark Morano and how he fears that lockdowns are actually going to be a go-to tool for the hard left.

00:21:46.380 Stay with us. That's it.

00:21:58.800 Just said, being that you think that we shouldn't lift restrictions at all on the 19th, that we should carry on

00:22:03.800 exactly as we are. Am I right? Is that what you're suggesting?

00:22:07.480 Well, lifting restrictions will increase transmission. And with all the problems that I've just talked

00:22:13.420 about, it doesn't seem to me the best time to do that.

00:22:17.480 All right.

00:22:17.760 In fact, if you remember a few weeks ago, we actually postponed lifting restrictions because

00:22:23.900 the situation was so serious. But the situation is even more serious now than it was then.

00:22:28.860 Listen, there's a point I really have to put to you, and you'll be aware of this, because there's

00:22:32.400 been a lot of commentary about this in the British media about you. And it's to do with your politics.

00:22:38.600 And you know I'm going to ask you. You've been a member of the Communist Party for about 40 years

00:22:42.760 now. You're still a member. And we know that communism is basically status. We look at communist

00:22:48.140 countries around the world and we see that they are tremendously top-down dominant and controlled

00:22:52.600 societies that they rule over. And I just wonder, and I'm putting this question on behalf of those who

00:22:57.820 wonder about your politics. If your politics actually informs your sense of control, it's

00:23:03.000 not just the medical arguments, but you have a kind of a political bent to want the state

00:23:08.520 to tell people what to do.

00:23:11.560 I've come on your programme as a scientist, as do all people who come onto your programme

00:23:17.660 as scientists. They come on to talk about the evidence, relevant theories, how we approach

00:23:23.580 scientific disciplines. And you don't ask other scientists about politics. So I'm very happy

00:23:31.360 to speak about science, which is what my job is, and to live it up to that.

00:23:37.580 So you're saying that your politics doesn't inform your opinion on this subject?

00:23:42.800 I'm saying that I agree to come on this programme as a scientist.

00:23:46.400 Wow. That's from Good Morning Britain, the largest morning talk show in the United Kingdom. Now,

00:23:52.440 that's a question you don't see put to these lockdownists. Is it really a means to solve a

00:24:00.120 problem? Is the lockdown some cure to some other ailment? Or is the lockdown the actual goal in

00:24:07.780 itself? And I think what we saw for that communist who didn't like to be asked about her communism,

00:24:13.560 the answer is, of course it is. They just found the excuse to go with it. Well, that's in the

00:24:19.160 United Kingdom. But on the other side of the world, in New Zealand, I don't know if this lady's a 1.00

00:24:24.300 communist, but she's so excited about lockdowns, again, not to solve a problem, but as the end goal in 0.84

00:24:31.300 themselves, she proposes to use them for everything from other diseases to global warming. Take a look at

00:24:38.980 this professor, and you know she's serious, because who else would have that fire red hair? 0.99

00:24:45.080 But I hope that, you know, people take from our responses that we can do this for other things

00:24:49.720 too. You know, we can do this for the other diseases that we have here in New Zealand. We can do this for

00:24:54.640 climate change. And I think we should not underestimate, actually, the kind of soft power now that New Zealand

00:25:00.520 has, that we can really be an exemplar for how to be a good society, how to use evidence in the right

00:25:06.420 way. You know, and we're not doing it for everything. So I think we, you know, we can show

00:25:10.700 that, actually, why wouldn't we do this for other things?

00:25:14.520 Susan Wells, are you feeling proud?

00:25:17.040 Yeah.

00:25:17.800 Well, there you have it. The lockdown, they can't get enough of it. Joining us now via Skype from

00:25:23.160 Washington, D.C. is our friend Mark Morano, the boss of Climatedepot.com. That first clip from

00:25:28.840 Good Morning Britain, you don't see public health officials or professors grilled on their lockdown

00:25:36.360 ideology. But that's what lockdownism is. It's a belief system in control. That's really what most

00:25:43.280 of public health is, isn't it, Mark?

00:25:46.400 It is. And what we just saw there, Ezra, it was amazing. A mainstream media show actually asked

00:25:53.600 about the motivation behind these insane zero-COVID totalitarian policies and directly linked it to

00:26:02.200 the ideology of a lady who's a 40-year-plus member of the Communist Party. Now, that presenter you saw

00:26:08.060 is now under serious fire. I say it looks like he could be under threat of losing his job. All the

00:26:13.700 mainstream media is going after him. It was inappropriate. The lady who we asked is outraged. 0.67

00:26:18.900 Her colleagues are outraged. How dare he do this? You can't question the science. They've turned lockdowns

00:26:25.180 into the science. And that's incredible. They've actually done it where if you're opposed to their

00:26:30.340 solutions. So that guy really deserves an award for that. And it really exposes the agenda. Now,

00:26:35.920 New Zealand, this is a lady who is like their communicator on the COVID restrictions. COVID, 0.87

00:26:43.620 New Zealand is one of the people, one of the countries who has this zero COVID. And it truly is

00:26:48.200 a totalitarian policy. It cannot be achieved without practicing totalitarianism. And not only

00:26:55.080 have they practiced it in New Zealand, they've mastered it. They're not just out there, you know,

00:26:59.360 practicing, getting for the big game. They've done it. And she actually goes in that interview,

00:27:03.880 she actually says, in order to be a, how to be a good society. In other words, you're a good person,

00:27:10.240 a good society. If you support these endless restrictions, they are ready. They are poised.

00:27:15.940 They're openly talking about moving it on to climate. And I have about five other examples,

00:27:20.760 if you get a chance to go through, of what's just happened the last month on the climate lockdown

00:27:24.860 front. Yeah. I mean, you know, what's interesting is the mask, which was a symbol of compliance. Now

00:27:31.040 that the mask, you know, the science, the capital T, science, capital S is saying, well, you don't need

00:27:38.500 the mask anymore. It's amazing how many people want to wear the mask, because it's become their flag.

00:27:43.340 It's become like their religious symbol. And it shows what side they're on. And I don't know,

00:27:49.340 I think that what's interesting is people who believe in the vaccine and got the vaccine

00:27:54.700 are now saying, well, I did what you said, so let me be free. And people on the other end of the

00:28:00.100 spectrum who never wanted the vaccine, who were skeptical about it, who were worried about it.

00:28:04.540 So you've got both ends now who are saying, well, I already complied, set me free,

00:28:09.960 or I don't want to comply, set me free. But in the middle, you have the people who have mastered

00:28:15.460 the system, who love it, who have profit. I can assure you that neither of the two professors we've

00:28:20.640 shown you today have lost a day's pay. In fact, they've got a lot of, they're loving lockdownism.

00:28:27.080 I wonder if they'll succeed, Mark. Do you think they'll succeed? Do you think lockdownism

00:28:30.640 will become permanent? I absolutely do. In fact, they're not just loving it. If you watch that New

00:28:37.800 Zealand clip, and I have the whole full clip up at Climate Depot, they're coming the night before

00:28:43.640 the host is talking about how they look hungover because they went to an award ceremony party

00:28:49.160 by Public Health New Zealand, where they all congratulated each other on a job well done and

00:28:55.200 containing the virus. I mean, this is like someone coming up with a theory to try to stop the

00:29:00.280 sun, make the sun go down at the end of the day. Say you want to, oh, we want night. So we're going

00:29:04.620 to do all these government policies. And then the sun goes down and you all give yourself awards,

00:29:08.560 a job well done. The virus was going to virus no matter what government policy did. We know from

00:29:15.260 all the past epidemiological studies that masks don't work, that lockdowns never work, that they

00:29:20.100 were never even proposed. And all of a sudden, they're now crediting themselves, patting themselves

00:29:24.480 in the back so much so that they want to morph over to the climate lockdowns. We are facing

00:29:30.240 in our lifetimes, Ezra, the greatest threat that ever we could ever conceive. This isn't about German 1.00

00:29:36.620 tanks rolling into our city and imposing some kind of overt authoritarianism. This is a creeping

00:29:43.600 overnight, part creeping and then part happens overnight. Stay at home, no backyard barbecues,

00:29:51.980 government had to justify your existence. And they're now morphing it to climate,

00:29:56.460 major reports coming out. And I don't see any of our leadership and politicians on the parties,

00:30:02.160 on the leaders who are supposed to be on the side of liberty. I see most of them as completely

00:30:06.800 clueless, certainly in the United States. Yeah, well, here in Canada, I mean, I'm coming to you

00:30:11.060 from Toronto, a city where it's still illegal to go into a restaurant or into most gyms. We're the most

00:30:17.860 lockdown city in the world. I didn't see that coming. I mean, I know Canada is more socialist

00:30:22.460 than America, but I just, like, there actually is no plan. They don't have, like, phase one,

00:30:28.720 phase two, phase three. Like, there is no exit road that's even been mapped out here. There is no path

00:30:35.680 out in Ontario. I'm boggled by it. But how does that work in America? You've got 50 different states,

00:30:42.800 and each of them has a slightly different policy. I think Florida and Texas and South Dakota being

00:30:48.920 leaders and other places have been laggards. How does that work when you've got the federal

00:30:53.780 government going even deeper down the lockdown list or vaccine road? Here's Jen Psaki, the spokesman

00:31:00.600 for, excuse me, pardon me, for Joe Biden, saying they're now going to go door to door in certain

00:31:06.220 neighborhoods, pushing the vaccine here. Take a quick look at this. Just a very quick click. Take a look.

00:31:10.340 President will outline five areas his team is focused on to get more Americans vaccinated.

00:31:16.540 One, targeted community by community door to door outreach to get remaining Americans vaccinated by

00:31:22.140 ensuring they have the information they need on how both safe and accessible the vaccine is.

00:31:26.900 That's really weird. Door to door vaccine salesman. I don't get it. I mean, in Canada or around America,

00:31:33.980 you have lotteries giving millions of dollars away. You have stores giving free ice cream,

00:31:39.220 free hot dogs, free junk food, really. I've just never seen such a thing before, but they're not done.

00:31:46.580 You can't even put on a baseball game or a basketball game messaging. The announcers are saying it.

00:31:51.700 You know, I'll tell you right now, I will not get the vaccine for one simple reason. The people that are

00:31:56.960 promoting it lied about masks, lied about lockdowns, lied about the death rate from COVID. I don't trust them.

00:32:03.600 One ounce. I wouldn't even consider it. I'm not. It's not an option for me or my family to even

00:32:08.040 consider the vaccine. I'm sorry. And I'm not anti-vax. I've gotten every other vaccine, including

00:32:13.160 flu shots. My kids have outlawed them. Everyone. So there's no way you could label me that. But this

00:32:18.240 vaccine, my eyes have been opened to this whole nonsense. There's no way I would get it.

00:32:22.820 Yeah. I find it very strange. Now, the idea of zero COVID, and we hear that, like if there's a

00:32:29.820 single case, you flip, you hit the alarm button. They do that in Australia a little bit too. There's

00:32:34.580 some Australian states where like six cases and they lock down millions of people, just

00:32:39.640 out of control.

00:32:40.700 Well, in the climate world, they actually have absolute zero, which is the zero carbon dioxide

00:32:49.720 allowance. In the UK funded report at Climate, I have a whole profile list at Climate Depot. I

00:32:55.200 don't know anyone else who caught this, not even in the UK that didn't catch this. 2009 report urged

00:33:00.960 climate lockdowns, stop flying, no new roads, airport closures, stop eating beef, lamb, stop doing

00:33:06.880 anything that causes emissions, prohibitions on CO2 similar to asbestos. These are exact

00:33:13.180 quotes from the report. Absolute zero, zero COVID. They're literally like bookends and they're

00:33:19.760 coming in and they're crushing us like one of those moving walls in an old film. This is

00:33:25.960 real. And not only that, peer reviewed journal, not only that, the International Energy Agency

00:33:30.380 recommending it, not only that, Biden's being declared to order a climate emergency. Again,

00:33:35.680 only fly when it's morally justifiable, end of private car ownership, the end of eating meat,

00:33:41.480 degrowth, planned recessions. This is real. It's happening. No one's voting on it. Republicans

00:33:46.860 aren't aware of it. And this is happening behind the scenes. Bill Gates buying up the most American

00:33:52.800 farmland, according to NBC News, not some conservative blog. I have NBC News reporter actually saying

00:33:59.660 Bill Gates isn't the one in overalls and a pitchfork out there, but he's buying up the farms from small

00:34:05.340 family-run farmers. And Bill Gates is pushing fake processed vegetable oil, what they're calling

00:34:13.160 meat, as an alternative to cattle things. So what they're doing is taking control of everything

00:34:19.980 behind the scenes with funding, finances, and even the Biden administration, every agency is a

00:34:25.360 climate agency. It's all happening. And then you have the ESG, environment, social governance.

00:34:29.840 Banks will not be allowed or be penalized for doing energy projects. They have every avenue in which

00:34:36.760 to enforce this. And most of the public, most of our leadership, all of our leadership, and most of

00:34:41.580 our even side that's elected are completely clueless as to what's happening. We won't be able to have a

00:34:47.100 Donald Trump come in four or eight years and undo stuff like the last real Donald Trump did,

00:34:52.740 because it's going to be so ingrained, so just died and died into baked into our administrative

00:35:00.920 state. That's where we're headed. Yeah, I always found it creepy when I heard that Bill Gates was

00:35:06.220 buying up farmland. I didn't quite understand what his game was. But yeah, I mean, he's got these

00:35:12.900 crazy videos he did of him drinking what he called poop water. I don't know why I'm sure that makes me so

00:35:18.620 nauseous. He drank water made from feces. Oh, I can't even think of it without gagging. But it's

00:35:23.260 true, the World Economic Forum. And by the way, Chrystia Freeland, a very senior cabinet minister in

00:35:27.100 Canada, is still on the board of the World Economic Forum. I don't even know how that's

00:35:31.060 ethical to be on the board of directors of a lobby group when you're in the Canadian cabinet.

00:35:36.900 So I'm worried. I mean, you'll recall that Justin Trudeau gave a speech at the United Nations

00:35:42.840 Online, where he said this Great Reset is a chance to use the crisis to transform Canada. Here's a

00:35:50.700 quick clip of that. Building back better means getting support to the most vulnerable while

00:35:56.380 maintaining our momentum on reaching the 2030 agenda for sustainable development and the SDGs.

00:36:02.820 Canada is here to listen and to help. This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset. This is our

00:36:10.440 chance to accelerate our pre-pandemic efforts, to reimagine economic systems that actually address

00:36:16.400 global challenges like extreme poverty, inequality, and climate change. So all these things you're

00:36:22.140 talking about, Mark, I mean, they sound, oh my God, conspiratorial. Well, they're being done out in

00:36:26.380 the open. You know, the World Economic Forum saying you won't own anything and you'll love it.

00:36:31.580 Everything you have read, drones will deliver. Here's a quote. These are, again, I only give sources,

00:36:35.940 quotes. I don't like say, oh, you know, Alex Jones said this. No. The International Energy Agency

00:36:42.300 report, which came out, I believe, in March of this year, 2021, urged behavioral changes are all in

00:36:47.780 quotes, behavioral changes to fight climate change, a shift away from private car use, upper speed limits,

00:36:54.000 thermostat controls, limits on hot water. These are in the report. These are the actual mainstream

00:37:00.060 findings. They're telling us exactly what they want to do. What I, my new line, by the way, my new

00:37:05.980 philosophy is 2020, 2021 are the year conspiracy realities outnumber conspiracy theories. You can

00:37:13.380 take that to the bank. Well, and, and my point about some people want to wear those masks forever

00:37:19.260 is one of the creepy things about the whole lockdown, and I think it's a form of Stockholm syndrome,

00:37:25.400 is how many people loved it and will miss it and were proud of it and wanted to be in on it. And

00:37:32.140 then one of the ways they got in on it was they were little enforcers, petty little enforcers of

00:37:36.700 masks and rules out on the street. And I was shocked and disappointed the ratio of happy scolds and happy

00:37:46.400 enforcers compared to dissidents. And, and so how easily this communist style lockdown took root with

00:37:56.360 public health as the explanation. I fear that with climate is the next explanation. I fear there will

00:38:02.320 be again, 10, 20, 30% of the population that loves it, that run to volunteer to enforce it. I learned

00:38:10.560 something about Canadians and people in the whole world. A lot of people don't mind a little bit of

00:38:15.280 tyranny. Last word to you, Mark. Yeah. I mean, Peter Hitchens, the UK columnist, I believe for the

00:38:21.180 Daily Mail said it best during the height last summer of the COVID lockdowns. He said, if anyone

00:38:27.340 ever wondered what they would have done during Hitler's early years in Nazi Germany, how they

00:38:33.200 would have fought, how could that have happened to these enlightened German people? You don't need to 0.99

00:38:37.560 look further than what happened to the world in 2020 and 2021. And I think he's exactly right.

00:38:42.480 Everyone looks back at history and says, how could they allow that? And yet we were here now. We

00:38:47.840 watched as in LA and Los Angeles and California, people were rewarded. Snitches get rewards for 0.98

00:38:54.380 ratting on your neighbor for too many people over at their house. Your utilities could be cut off

00:38:58.640 if you had too many people. This was a world that no one ever expected to happen, let alone happen

00:39:03.200 literally overnight with the hysteria following COVID-19. Yeah. Well, we're in the worst of it here

00:39:09.000 in Canada. Mark Morano, great to catch up with you. Thanks for your time. Thank you. Appreciate it.

00:39:14.360 There you have it. Mark Morano, check out his website, climatedepot.com. Stay with us more ahead.

00:39:18.940 Hey, welcome back on my show last night. PJ writes, very nice move demanding back your money

00:39:36.800 stolen by the BC Law Society and given to Harsha. Yeah, it's from the BC Law Foundation. I don't even

00:39:41.780 know how they get away with that. They just take all the interest from all the lawyers' trust funds.

00:39:46.660 That's a very weird, weird gig. Just on what basis do they dare to take that money? But because we

00:39:54.400 have business in BC, a few pennies or a few dollars of ours went to Harsha Welly. I don't believe in

00:39:59.560 that. Steven writes, isn't her tweet the definition of the left's hate crime laws? Yeah. I mean,

00:40:07.140 inciting hatred, likely to expose a person to hatred or contempt. That's the wishy-washy

00:40:13.260 language of the left. In fact, I did sort of a goofy tweet today. I said, on her own terms,

00:40:18.780 Harsha Welly is a bigoted settler who is calling for the destruction of indigenous culture. I mean,

00:40:27.620 when you're saying burn down Indian churches, that's exactly what you're saying. 1.00

00:40:31.960 Don writes, if someone said burn down all mosques, they'd be arrested for hate. 0.67

00:40:35.840 Oh, they would be. And terrorism. And they'd have a police raid on their home. And they'd be locked

00:40:41.540 up. Absolutely. And I'm afraid that we have hate in society that's not going checked. And we have

00:40:50.300 hate crimes and hate prosecutions and hate cops that are going after things that aren't real hate.

00:40:56.640 Not that I even think an emotion should be prosecuted to begin with. I think that's one of

00:41:01.700 the challenges we're going to have in the months and years ahead. The criminalization of feelings

00:41:07.240 and thoughts. That's our show for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here

00:41:11.660 at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.

00:41:15.540 We'll see you next time.

00:41:29.500 We'll see you next time.

00:41:31.500 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - July 07, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ As Canada returns to normal, what's next for Rebel News？

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