Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Canada's Hamas sympathizers continue to stir anti-Semitic hate, and local police don't seem to care

00:00:00.140 Hello, my friends. I want to show you some footage taken from outside a Jewish synagogue in the city of Vaughan, just north of Toronto over the weekend.

00:00:09.060 A Hamas hate march actually assaulted a police officer. A woman was arrested, but then pulled free by the rest of the mob, and they were all allowed to go.

00:00:18.780 It's two-tier policing. We've got the video to prove it to you.

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00:00:57.040 Tonight, violent street gangs rule the roost in Toronto. It's March 4th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:05.700 You're fighting for freedom!

00:01:08.660 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:11.760 I don't know if you remember, but the first time Justin Trudeau and Georgia Maloney, the leader of Italy, met, 0.85

00:01:25.680 he thought he would scold her because she wasn't sufficiently LGBTQ2SL plus enough.

00:01:33.620 You know, he likes to mansplain those things. He'll never say that to Xi Jinping or the head of a Muslim country where homosexuality is actually criminalized,

00:01:43.160 but he'll give a lecture to Georgia Maloney because she's conservative, or at least slightly conservative. 1.00

00:01:48.600 He humiliated her. I think it backfired because I don't think anyone in Italy cares at all about what Justin Trudeau says or thinks,

00:01:56.360 and I think it made him look like he always looks, which is very thin-skinned when it comes to criticism from women,

00:02:02.580 whether it's Jody Wilson-Raybould or Tamara Leach.

00:02:06.180 I think Justin Trudeau has a real problem with criticism from strong women. 0.59

00:02:09.740 It's sort of embarrassing for him, not for Maloney.

00:02:13.600 Well, for some reason, Georgia Maloney thought that she would try.

00:02:16.780 Again, I'm not sure quite why, but she did agree to meet with Justin Trudeau,

00:02:21.200 and they were having an event at the Royal Ontario Museum,

00:02:24.420 and she's a world leader, a member of a G7 country, a NATO ally, and he blew it.

00:02:31.780 I guess at least this time he didn't invite a Nazi SS officer like he did when Vladimir Zelensky came to town,

00:02:38.760 but there was a massive street protest outside, and not just a street protest.

00:02:44.300 I call it a hate march.

00:02:46.040 It was people dressed as Hamas thugs, masks, and they actually had signs with machine guns.

00:02:53.340 I think that this is probably rubbing up against the line of facilitating or instructing or harboring terrorists.

00:03:01.920 I don't know, but no one's certainly been charged with that, despite the massive support for terrorists in the streets.

00:03:07.260 Justin Trudeau himself was asked very early on when he thinks about these hate marches,

00:03:10.620 and he said he was fine with them.

00:03:12.720 But he couldn't even maintain control of the event.

00:03:15.700 It was unprofessional operationally.

00:03:17.760 I don't know who would be to blame for them.

00:03:19.900 I think at the end it comes down to the prime minister's office, which has the power to, you know, have high security for G7 leaders,

00:03:28.100 working with different police forces, the RCMP in particular, but also city police forces.

00:03:32.840 They do this all the time.

00:03:34.440 I know it sounds insane, but Justin Trudeau is just so rogue these days.

00:03:37.940 It wouldn't surprise me if this was something he did on purpose.

00:03:41.280 I know that sounds so outlandish, and I don't think I would have said that until recently,

00:03:45.120 but everything to Justin Trudeau is a photo op or some sort of emotional outburst.

00:03:50.460 So maybe it was just incompetence, or maybe it was sort of one of those, uh-oh, whoopsie, on-purpose incompetences.

00:03:57.360 I don't know.

00:03:58.040 But it certainly set the tone for the weekend when, short hours later, there was another Hamas hate march,

00:04:06.700 not this time in front of two G7 leaders who were meeting, but rather in a synagogue north of Toronto.

00:04:13.620 A synagogue. 0.56

00:04:14.120 A synagogue is a house of worship.

00:04:15.860 It's a Jewish place.

00:04:17.220 It has no more to do with the state of Israel than a church has to do with Switzerland,

00:04:22.260 even though the Swiss flag is a Christian cross, or the flag of Norway, or more than a dozen flags have a cross on them.

00:04:30.300 But I think people know that going to a church and protesting at a Christian church, because it has a cross,

00:04:35.620 that's not how you protest against, allegedly, your concerns about a country.

00:04:40.760 But, of course, their concerns of these Hamas hate marches, like Hamas itself, is not for a country. 0.79

00:04:46.360 The Hamas charter calls for the extermination of Jews.

00:04:49.180 And the Hamas hate marches in Ontario, they want to protest Jews. 0.98

00:04:54.700 Here's some footage of what that looked like.

00:04:57.240 Our reporter David Menzies was there.

00:04:58.680 There's also a citizen journalist named Karima Saad, who was there with her cameraman.

00:05:03.580 Here's some images from this protest at a synagogue, a Jewish synagogue.

00:05:11.340 It's not an Israeli outpost.

00:05:13.160 It's not a political outpost.

00:05:14.320 Take a look at this.

00:05:19.180 Please jump on the sidewalk.

00:05:38.600 Just, yeah.

00:05:39.620 Side rec, please.

00:05:41.560 Side rec, please.

00:05:50.160 You're high. 1.00

00:05:52.880 Disgusting. 1.00

00:05:54.700 You're high. 1.00

00:05:55.580 As you can see, there's a crossover between Islamist

00:06:25.360 extremists and Antifa. There are some white, woke Antifa types there. One of the tactics that Antifa

00:06:31.760 uses, I've seen it myself, is they have these extreme noisemakers. Not just a noisy, but extremely

00:06:38.180 noisy. More than 100 decibels. The kind of thing that if it was put near you would cause temporary

00:06:44.480 and God forbid personal deafness. And one of the regular protests there deployed that weapon, 0.65

00:06:50.520 actually gave it to her child. Take a look at this from Karima Sad. 0.58

00:06:53.780 Palestine is not for sale. Palestine is not for sale. 0.70

00:06:58.860 Danger, danger! 1.00

00:07:00.260 You are a terrorist. 0.99

00:07:01.840 Danger, danger! 1.00

00:07:05.740 Did you pay your rent yet, Lee? Did you pay your rent? Did you fucking pay your rent?

00:07:19.320 Everybody knows what that is. It's not just a noisemaker. It is a weapon. It would be like 1.00

00:07:24.820 shooting a laser pointer in someone's eyes. You don't need to punch someone to assault and batter 0.97

00:07:30.200 them. You can assault and batter them with sound, with light, or with other things. And police saw

00:07:35.760 this and of course did nothing. It reminds me of a few weeks ago when these same Hamas hate marches

00:07:41.360 blocked off a Jewish neighborhood in Toronto. Again, nothing political there, just Jewish houses and 0.98

00:07:47.380 synagogues. And Hamas literally blocked the streets. Oh, and police, they brought coffee 0.87

00:07:53.880 before the Hamas protesters. Remember this?

00:07:55.880 No one told them they can't come back, otherwise he would have said, okay, I understand.

00:07:58.880 Okay, I'll just ask this.

00:08:00.880 I understand.

00:08:01.880 Sorry, it's the person with the vets?

00:08:06.880 Jihad? 0.94

00:08:07.880 Yeah.

00:08:08.880 On the vets?

00:08:09.880 Yeah.

00:08:10.880 On the vets?

00:08:11.880 No, no.

00:08:12.880 He's got a yellow vest on the pocket.

00:08:13.880 You got coffee from the police.

00:08:14.880 We're not the police. Someone has brought it for us, but the police won't let them in.

00:08:18.880 So the police are now becoming our little messengers between us. I don't know. I have

00:08:24.880 no idea what's going on.

00:08:25.880 Again, credit to Karima Saad for that on the street video. I want to show you a couple

00:08:31.880 of minutes now. The whole clip is six minutes. I'm not going to show the whole thing, but

00:08:34.880 I'm going to show a fair bit of it. You'll watch this video, again from Karima, who's there

00:08:38.880 on the ground, which is interesting because she's pretty nonpartisan. I can't even tell

00:08:44.880 which side she's on. I think she's Muslim, and her videographer is Jewish. That's an interesting

00:08:49.880 combination, and I think she does a pretty good job of just showing the story, and she's

00:08:54.880 always there on the ground.

00:08:57.880 And here she shows a woman on the pro-Hamas side hit a police officer. Have you ever done 0.62

00:09:07.880 that in your life, hit a police officer? I don't recommend it. Here she hits a police 0.81

00:09:11.880 officer. That happens around 17 seconds into this video. And they arrest her. They put hands 0.54

00:09:17.880 on her. They say things that are not audible, but she's clearly being arrested. But the mob

00:09:23.880 of pro-Hamas protesters spills out onto the street. Now, if that was you or me, we'd be

00:09:27.880 getting jaywalking tickets. And they literally pull her away from the police and free her just

00:09:34.880 with sheer physical force. And the police just let that happen. She assaulted police. She

00:09:41.880 was arrested by police. And the Hamas thugs pull her away. And the police sort of say,

00:09:46.880 oh, well. Here, take a look. Let's play a few minutes of this.

00:09:53.880 I'm like 50 minutes Amy, this is a lie. Here. Let's go. Fire up here, please.

00:10:00.880 On the sidewalk. On the sidewalk, keep your head.

00:10:07.660 47 Are you Joel?

00:10:08.880 You're at, locked in front. Oh?

00:10:09.880 So no. One through the window.

00:10:11.880 Hợp on there.

00:10:12.880 Check everything. You're at, you know Osurka.

00:10:16.880 traffic. Let's just be safe.

00:10:18.880 He's right beating on us.

00:10:20.880 You have no right to touch her.

00:10:50.880 You have no right to touch her.

00:11:20.880 You have no right to touch her.

00:11:50.860 You have no right to touch her.

00:11:52.860 Move away, move away, move away. 0.84

00:11:56.860 Move away, move away, move away. 0.84

00:12:00.860 Move away, move away, move away, move away. 0.90

00:12:04.860 Give me space.

00:12:06.860 Give me space.

00:12:08.860 Back up, back up.

00:12:10.860 I've never seen such a thing in Canada.

00:12:12.860 How about with the truckers?

00:12:14.860 Well, you saw more violence towards police there than you did during the entire trucker convoy.

00:12:18.860 Not a single trucker assaulted a single police officer ever.

00:12:22.860 You just saw more violence in that one Hamas hate march than in all the truckers combined.

00:12:26.860 And yet the reaction when it was truckers was riot squads, martial law, jailing Tamera Leach and Arthur Pavlovsky and the like.

00:12:36.860 Absolute baton swinging thuggery from police against peaceful protests against vaccine mandates.

00:12:44.860 But you have Hamas hate marches hit a cop and no problem. 0.63

00:12:49.860 Now, there was an arrest made and it's a very unfortunate incident, which I am opposed to.

00:12:55.860 A man who's apparently Jewish, although I understand he may be from Russia, was charged with assault and he was improperly using a nail gun, like a construction tool.

00:13:06.860 I'm not sure if he actually fired a nail at people, but he was wielding the gun and there was some fisticuffs.

00:13:11.860 Here, take a quick look at this.

00:13:13.860 You can see the guy with the nail gun. 1.00

00:13:15.860 Every fucking Palestinian! 1.00

00:13:17.860 Every fucking Palestinian! 1.00

00:13:20.860 Hey, hey, hey! 1.00

00:13:23.860 Huh? 1.00

00:13:24.860 You wanna fucking go, bitch? 1.00

00:13:26.860 You need to calm down and step back. 1.00

00:13:28.860 You wanna fucking go? 1.00

00:13:29.860 You have a fucking problem? 1.00

00:13:30.860 Huh? 1.00

00:13:31.860 You have a problem? 1.00

00:13:32.860 You fucking... 1.00

00:13:33.860 Don't you fucking touch me, bitch! 1.00

00:13:35.860 Don't you fucking touch me! 1.00

00:13:36.860 And you shot me with a nail gun! 1.00

00:13:38.860 You piece of shit! 1.00

00:13:39.860 No! 1.00

00:13:40.860 No!

00:13:41.860 No!

00:13:42.860 No!

00:13:43.860 No!

00:13:44.860 No!

00:13:45.860 No!

00:13:46.860 No!

00:13:47.860 No! 1.00

00:13:48.860 What are you gonna do, bitch? 1.00

00:13:49.860 Yeah. 1.00

00:13:50.860 Now, I think, judging by his name, he's Jewish.

00:13:52.860 And obviously, I'm against people using nail guns at all for violence.

00:13:58.860 Nail guns are a construction tool.

00:13:59.860 I would be against people hitting someone with a hammer.

00:14:02.860 It's morally wrong to shoot someone with a nail gun.

00:14:05.860 If I have to say it, there I've said it.

00:14:07.860 And from a pragmatic and practical point of view, putting aside morality, it obviously

00:14:12.860 undermines your cause to use a nail gun, because now you're the violent one, even though

00:14:18.860 these were Hamas hate marches, to respond with a nail gun is inappropriate morally and

00:14:23.860 politically.

00:14:24.860 He was charged, and I'm sure he'll be prosecuted, and you know, I don't know if he'll be convicted,

00:14:29.860 but the video doesn't look great.

00:14:31.860 But why did that happen?

00:14:33.860 Why would some, if I understand correctly, he was just a construction guy.

00:14:37.860 I understand he was, he may have even been swarmed.

00:14:40.860 Someone told me that happened, but I haven't seen the video, James.

00:14:43.860 Why would he feel the need to use a nail gun?

00:14:47.860 I'm not going to get into his mind.

00:14:49.860 I have no idea.

00:14:50.860 Again, I say that using a nail gun is wrong.

00:14:52.860 But perhaps it was a frustration, a reaction to the fact that police obviously and simply 0.84

00:14:59.860 don't give a damn anymore about Jews or Jewish places.

00:15:03.860 In Canada, we've seen Molotov cocktails thrown at schools and synagogues. 1.00

00:15:08.860 We've seen shots fired at schools and synagogues.

00:15:11.860 I think of, for example, in Montreal.

00:15:13.860 I see thousands of people chanting for a final solution, intifada revolution, from the

00:15:18.860 river to the sea.

00:15:19.860 I see posters like the placard we saw when Giorgia Maloney was in town of machine guns.

00:15:26.860 Remember this girl that David Menzies saw in Mississauga with AK-47 earrings and an AK-47

00:15:33.860 shirt.

00:15:34.860 Remember her?

00:15:35.860 Hamas is not a terrorist group.

00:15:36.860 Oh, it isn't, ma'am?

00:15:37.860 First of all, Hamas is not a terrorist group.

00:15:40.860 Hamas is not a terrorist group.

00:15:42.860 What is it?

00:15:43.860 Like a motorcycle club?

00:15:44.860 It is a resistance that has been fuming for 75 years of colonialism, of occupation, of

00:15:52.860 murder, of rape, of little children, of women.

00:15:55.860 That's what they are. 0.99

00:15:56.860 They are resistance.

00:15:57.860 Do you think Canada is a colonialist country, too?

00:16:00.860 Everything that they do is justified.

00:16:02.860 Including what happened last week?

00:16:04.860 Every single thing they have done is justified.

00:16:06.860 Now, I don't know if it's against the law to wear AK-47 earrings.

00:16:09.860 I don't think it is.

00:16:11.860 I don't think it is against the law to say you like Hamas.

00:16:14.860 I don't think it is, and I don't think it should be.

00:16:17.860 But when you start to actually support, facilitate, instruct or harbor terrorist groups, well, that

00:16:22.860 could be against the law.

00:16:23.860 The criminal code says so.

00:16:25.860 And we were told for years that we need to crack down on hate speech.

00:16:28.860 It's section 318 and 319 of our criminal code, including Holocaust denial or calling for genocide.

00:16:34.860 That actually is against the law right now.

00:16:36.860 It's not just stuff that Trudeau wants to bring in in the Online Harms Act.

00:16:40.860 None of these people chanting for the death of Jews have been charged with this at all.

00:16:45.860 You know, I asked Douglas Murray, the great British commentator, how things are for British Jews.

00:16:51.860 I said, is it still safe for British Jews?

00:16:54.860 Here's the answer he gave me.

00:16:55.860 Here, take a look at this.

00:16:56.860 And listen to his answer also when he talks about the hate march that's going on every week in the UK.

00:17:01.860 Take a look at this for a second.

00:17:02.860 Is Britain still safe for Jews? 1.00

00:17:04.860 Yes, but it's tense.

00:17:05.860 It's very tense.

00:17:06.860 I mean, if there's a march every Saturday where there are people calling for your death and destruction, you can't say that that's a happy society. 0.99

00:17:17.860 And it wouldn't be put up with any other group if there were marches in the centre of London every week where there were some people, even just some people, saying that we should eradicate everyone who's black. 0.98

00:17:30.860 That march would be stopped. There would not be a second march or a third.

00:17:35.860 And the people who would be on the first march, once they knew what they were involved with, would not go back on the second week if they were decent people.

00:17:42.860 So there's not even a double standard, a triple standard going on.

00:17:46.860 Did you hear his point about the marches? He made a good point.

00:17:50.860 He said if there were a march, let's say there was a march against open borders immigration, both the UK and Canada are overwhelmed with that.

00:17:57.860 If there was a march and there was lots of KKK hoods and people with KKK flags chanting racist things toward black people, if you saw that, you would probably disassociate yourself from it and not go next week when they would do it again and again and again.

00:18:15.860 And Douglas Murray's point is those marches may not be criminal in themselves.

00:18:21.860 And I think the same thing can be said about the marches in Canada.

00:18:24.860 We saw some law breaking, assaulting a cop, trespass, etc.

00:18:28.860 Of course, the firebombs and the shootings are against the law.

00:18:32.860 But even if actual laws aren't being broken, who would go to a march that week after week indulged in such blatant racism?

00:18:40.860 And if you have trouble imagining it, imagine if, you know, a white person with a white Klan hood went and let's say burned a cross outside a black church and chanted and held up, you know, atrocious signs showing a lynching or something and used the N word and said atrocious things.

00:18:57.860 Everyone would be shocked. 0.84

00:18:59.860 Everyone would be shocked.

00:19:00.860 Anyone who went to that protest would be ashamed of themselves.

00:19:03.860 It would be denounced.

00:19:04.860 And frankly, I think police would probably arrest those people for some sort of hate crime.

00:19:09.860 But that's not the case in Canada when the Jews are the target, is it? 0.85

00:19:14.860 And I think people see that there's a double standard here.

00:19:18.860 The mayor of Vaughan, which is the city north of Toronto where this happened, he's a former liberal named Del Duca is his last name.

00:19:27.860 And he did this series of tweets about the protesters and he said he wants there to be calm and he wants there to be order.

00:19:34.860 He never says he wants the racist protesters to stop.

00:19:38.860 He never said that.

00:19:40.860 I guess he's afraid of the pro-Hamas marchers.

00:19:43.860 Maybe he has done the math and there's just not enough Jews in Vaughan for him to take their side. 0.99

00:19:49.860 Like Trudeau, he's done the math and he knows there's about five times as many or ten times, almost ten times as many Muslims in Canada as there are Jews.

00:19:56.860 And, you know, if some of them are a bit racist, well, they each have a vote.

00:20:00.860 But compare what he said there about, hey, guys, you know, be calm and order.

00:20:04.860 Compare that to what he said when it was truckers in Ottawa and elsewhere.

00:20:09.860 Take a look at this video from the same mayor, Del Duca, a couple of years ago.

00:20:14.860 I'm outlining three steps that I believe Doug Ford should be taking right now urgently.

00:20:19.860 I think that we need to declare a provincial state of emergency.

00:20:23.860 This is how serious the situation is.

00:20:25.860 I'll call it protesters or the protest organizers to be on the hook for paying the policing costs that are mounting each and every single day.

00:20:34.860 That prosecutors here in the province of Ontario would use every tool in their toolkit, every tool available to make sure that a strong message was being sent, including the seizing or the forfeiture of property, including trucks.

00:20:49.860 It's time for these occupiers to go home.

00:20:52.860 Do you see the difference there?

00:20:54.860 However, he thinks that there should be a police crackdown on peaceful truckers, but he doesn't call for a crackdown on the Hamas hate marches.

00:21:05.860 Police arrest anyone who had a truck or under the emergencies actor.

00:21:11.860 Remember that guy in Toronto who had the smoked meat company?

00:21:16.860 They brought in riot horses by the dozen.

00:21:19.860 That's for peaceful protesters, but for people raging against Jews, masks, holding terrorist flags and saying from the river to the sea. 0.94

00:21:27.860 Oh, no, no, don't touch them.

00:21:29.860 In fact, they're an important voting bloc.

00:21:31.860 Let's bring them coffee, police say.

00:21:33.860 That's called two-tier policing. 0.90

00:21:36.860 And I'm afraid that if the Jews of Canada keep on seeing this two-tier policing, keep seeing violent people literally punching cops and getting away with it, see that outside their synagogues and schools and see that the police don't give a damn and the politicians don't either. 0.51

00:21:53.860 I hate to say it.

00:21:54.860 You probably will see more people like that carpenter picking up his nail gun.

00:21:58.860 I don't recommend it.

00:21:59.860 I don't want it.

00:22:00.860 I don't endorse it.

00:22:01.860 I don't support it.

00:22:02.860 But if people can't rely on the police to be neutral enforcers of the law, and if they can't rely on politicians to speak with moral clarity, they're probably going to keep looking for answers elsewhere, and that is not a good thing.

00:22:15.860 Stay with us for more.

00:22:17.860 We stand as a people who brought you in from Christ, in the name of Jesus.

00:22:38.860 Those are Maori in New Zealand. 0.90

00:23:08.160 Maori, of course, are the indigenous peoples there.

00:23:11.120 And that is the traditional haka.

00:23:13.620 We got to know that haka when Avi Emini and myself and other rebels went to New Zealand 1.00

00:23:18.920 for Avi's book launch.

00:23:20.580 They actually did a haka for Avi.

00:23:23.020 Can I show you that?

00:23:24.020 Take a look.

00:23:38.160 Well, we got to know an incredible collection of people from the Maori community led by

00:23:54.120 their senior pastor, Brian Temecki, who is so freedom oriented, it's amazing.

00:24:00.060 He resisted closing his churches during the lockdowns.

00:24:03.620 And look at him stand for Israel because he sees in Israel that they are the indigenous

00:24:09.080 people of the land, just as the Maori are in New Zealand.

00:24:13.400 And I was delighted to see my friend Barbara Kay had a column in the National Post entitled

00:24:17.780 Israel, a true indigenous success story.

00:24:21.840 And the sub headline, New Zealand's Maoris and other indigenous groups support Jewish

00:24:26.460 reclamation of their homeland.

00:24:28.640 And that was published in the National Post about a week and a half ago.

00:24:32.760 Joining me now via Skype is our friend Barbara Kay.

00:24:35.560 Barbara, great to see you again.

00:24:37.420 Same here, Ezra.

00:24:38.300 It's been a few months, I think.

00:24:40.940 Well, it's nice to have you back.

00:24:42.200 You know, a lot of people don't think of Jews as being indigenous.

00:24:47.080 In fact, in much of the world, Jews are in exile, the wandering Jew. 0.99

00:24:52.280 I mean, Jews are a minority everywhere.

00:24:54.580 But in the Holy Land, the land of the Bible, that's where the Jews started. 0.88

00:24:59.460 That's where this whole Jewish business started.

00:25:01.600 And from that point of view, Jews absolutely are the indigenous people there.

00:25:05.320 Judaism predates both Christianity and Islam by thousands of years.

00:25:11.020 That's true.

00:25:13.120 They are the only extant people.

00:25:15.780 You know, people often say, oh, well, the Canaanites were there first.

00:25:19.100 They may have been.

00:25:20.360 But the Canaanites were assimilated into the Jews, the Jewish people, or they fled, or they

00:25:27.640 had a war, whatever.

00:25:28.520 However, the Jews are the only extant people for whom that land is sacred.

00:25:34.460 And that's usually the short answer to what constitutes indigeneity. 0.72

00:25:40.060 You know, progressive people have a lot of trouble absorbing the idea, two ideas.

00:25:45.780 One, that you can be a white person and still belong to an indigenous people because they 0.93

00:25:52.660 associate all white people with imperialism and oppression.

00:25:57.300 And the second thing is it's hard for them to imagine an indigenous people that are also

00:26:04.620 dominant in the land, that they have actually achieved reclamation, that they have achieved

00:26:10.780 their return and have become sovereign, which is the dream of many other indigenous people

00:26:18.340 like the Kurds and many other people.

00:26:20.340 And by the way, the Kurds, I think, really deserve their own.

00:26:25.100 I mean, they really deserve to be a nation, but that's another topic for another day.

00:26:30.140 Anyways, yes, but we do.

00:26:33.000 The Jews do strike all the, tick off all the boxes that apply to indigenous as applied to 1.00

00:26:41.400 other people who we do call indigenous.

00:26:43.500 Well, I mean, the British Empire was at its peak probably on the eve of the First World

00:26:48.720 War.

00:26:49.320 And after that, the British, you know, empire began to fragment a little bit.

00:26:54.740 And that was greatly hastened after the Second World War.

00:26:57.540 So Israel is in the same category as several dozen countries that were decolonized when the

00:27:05.920 United Kingdom withdrew.

00:27:06.780 Now, Israel had been colonized over the years, been colonized by the Persians, colonized by 0.81

00:27:12.460 the Turks, colonized by the British.

00:27:15.560 And then when the British decolonized, they properly gave the land back to the original 0.97

00:27:20.580 people.

00:27:20.960 Actually, they agreed to give it back, part of it to the Jews and part of it to the Arabs.

00:27:25.640 The proposal the United Nations proposed was that there would be two countries birthed there,

00:27:30.200 but the Palestinian attack, the Jewish state.

00:27:32.480 But I guess through the, you know, the decolonization process, Israel is just like every other decolonized 0.98

00:27:41.100 country.

00:27:41.560 I mean, it's literally the same.

00:27:43.680 Yeah.

00:27:44.060 After the war was over, the First World War, 23 new nations came out in the Middle East that

00:27:52.200 were kind of decolonized.

00:27:54.760 And 22 of them were Arab and one was Jewish.

00:27:57.500 And nobody ever questions the legitimacy of all the 22 Arab nations that were created.

00:28:03.560 Jordan is a new nation, was a new nation, same time as Israel.

00:28:08.400 Syria was new. 0.99

00:28:10.320 Lebanon, all the, all the, not all.

00:28:12.460 Egypt is an ancient country and has always been there.

00:28:17.220 But a lot of the countries surrounding Israel became nations at the same time as Israel did.

00:28:23.220 And nobody's ever questioned their legitimacy, only Israel's. 0.91

00:28:28.020 You know, we, we really learned so little history these days.

00:28:31.180 I think that most kids at college, if you were to ask them about slavery, they would, they

00:28:38.040 would only know one slavery story, which is slavery in the United States South, that it

00:28:43.140 was white slave owners and black slaves.

00:28:46.140 I don't think that one in 10 college kids these days would know that slavery has occurred on

00:28:53.900 every continent and that in most cases, slave owners, because in most cases, people are 0.93

00:29:02.500 not white.

00:29:02.920 In most cases, slave owners are not white, whether it's China or Arabia or the Middle East

00:29:08.260 or Africa.

00:29:08.880 I think the only slavery we've been taught about is the U.S. slavery, which, by the way,

00:29:14.240 they fought the Civil War over, the most costly war that country ever fought.

00:29:19.040 I don't think-

00:29:19.860 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:29:20.940 There's, there is slavery still being practiced in some countries today.

00:29:26.420 Their inability to see evil in any other group other than white people tells me that it's 0.98

00:29:35.620 not slavery that they think is evil, it's, it's white people. 0.71

00:29:39.820 And if they can't admit that slavery is something that was, oh, also practiced amongst Indigenous

00:29:46.960 peoples in, you know, in North America and South America.

00:29:51.700 So before white people ever came to the, you know, to the, to these lands, it's, it's an 0.86

00:29:58.900 evil practice, but it's, it has been practiced just about everywhere.

00:30:03.700 It was, it was more the norm than not until the last hundred, a couple of hundred years.

00:30:10.100 And yes, the whites practiced slavery, but whites were in the forefront of the, of the 0.89

00:30:16.120 fight to abolish it.

00:30:17.640 It was another country that went to the same lengths that the United Kingdom did, not just

00:30:21.820 to abolish slavery, but to then eradicate it for, for half a century, the West Africa

00:30:26.660 squadron of the Royal Navy for purely altruistic reasons.

00:30:30.680 I mean, I suppose there were geopolitical rivalries too, but they tracked down, captured and freed

00:30:37.520 hundreds of slave ships, countless thousands of slaves.

00:30:42.740 Like for 50 years, the British Navy didn't just ban slavery, it eradicated.

00:30:47.420 It was like the global anti-slavery cop.

00:30:49.720 I don't know any other country in history that did that.

00:30:51.880 The Americans suffered a greater loss and practically almost all their wars combined to liberate the

00:30:58.120 country from the stain of slavery.

00:31:00.460 I don't know.

00:31:01.100 I, I just think that you're, you're right.

00:31:02.920 It's about a self, it's like that necrotize, necrotizing fasciitis.

00:31:09.400 You know, that, that unusual disease, that flesh eating disease, self-loathing, the woke

00:31:16.280 mind virus of self-loathing is like necrotizing fasciitis. 0.96

00:31:20.140 And I think young white kids are taught, we are a unique evil. 0.97

00:31:25.160 We did things unique in all history when slavery goes back since the dawn of time.

00:31:29.560 When slavery was banned in Canada, by the way, the greatest number of slaves was held

00:31:34.260 by other indigenous bands, as you correctly point out.

00:31:37.520 Indigenous on indigenous slave trading and slave raiding was far more numerous in Canada

00:31:42.360 than the handful of black slaves that were in this country at the time.

00:31:45.840 Just, I mean, I'm, that's part of the ignorance behind the changing of the name Dufferin for,

00:31:51.440 for the, uh, sorry, Dundas, for the young Dundas square in Ontario.

00:31:55.440 Sorry, I'm going on too much.

00:31:56.620 Back to you.

00:31:57.180 No, no, I mean, listen, this is, it, it's, it's very difficult to deal, uh, to have a conversation

00:32:02.240 about this with people who see the world so much in black and white, literally, uh, and

00:32:08.100 figuratively, uh, where there can only be, where evil and good are parceled out according

00:32:13.940 to your identity, so it, it then becomes a kind of, uh, crime, uh, to indict, to, to even

00:32:22.680 say, well, you know, uh, indigenous people weren't perfect either, uh, no, no people has

00:32:29.780 ever been perfect, and it doesn't matter what color you are, uh, as a matter of fact, I,

00:32:35.600 I mentioned before that, uh, it's very hard for, for progressives to consider that white

00:32:41.680 people as part of the Jewish people can also be considered indigenous because of their

00:32:46.860 heritage, um, it's, they also don't understand that half of Israel is brown people because

00:32:54.300 half of the Jewish people come from Arab lands where they were for hundreds, some, in some

00:33:00.220 places, thousands of years as well.

00:33:02.560 They predate Islam, uh, in certain countries, you know, in Egypt and Iraq and other, other 0.96

00:33:08.740 places, um, they can't fathom that you, that you could, that, that Arabs and Sephardic Jews

00:33:17.020 or Mizrahi Jews are basically indistinguishable in terms of their, the way they present, their 1.00

00:33:22.980 skin color, uh, that's very hard for them to understand because they, they understand that 0.99

00:33:27.440 if you have that skin color, then you're a good person, you're an innocent person, and

00:33:32.000 so, um, how can, how can you be both Jewish and an Israeli and also innocent?

00:33:37.920 Very hard for them to, uh, process that.

00:33:40.280 Yeah, it's a good point.

00:33:41.100 I mean, if anyone's ever visited Israel, I think there's a lot of things that surprise

00:33:44.960 them, but one of it is the, the different colors of Jews.

00:33:48.120 I mean, there are black Jews from Ethiopia.

00:33:50.540 There are brown Jews from Arabia and from Persia.

00:33:53.720 And you're right, it's, it really is a, a mixing and melting part.

00:33:58.060 And by the way, there's foreigners there too.

00:33:59.920 Uh, some of the people who were murdered and, uh, kidnapped on October 7th weren't even

00:34:05.480 Jews at all. 0.69

00:34:06.220 They were Arabs.

00:34:07.420 They were foreigners in Israel.

00:34:09.520 Hey, let's get back to your column.

00:34:10.720 I went on a bit of a tangent there talking about, um, slavery around the world.

00:34:16.880 I mean, by the way, we think of the word Baltimore as a city in Maryland, but Baltimore

00:34:23.700 was a town in Ireland where the entire town was kidnapped and turned into slaves by Arab

00:34:31.400 raiders who raided Ireland for white slaves and brought them back to Europe.

00:34:36.140 What is this?

00:34:36.820 I never heard of that.

00:34:37.520 I never heard that story.

00:34:38.820 It's, it's, it's a historical fact.

00:34:40.820 That's where the original Baltimore is.

00:34:41.980 Oh, I believe you.

00:34:42.660 I just, it was, this is new to me.

00:34:44.460 That's, uh.

00:34:45.360 Well, I mean, uh, if the Barbary pirates, if you, if you know that ancient, uh, that ancient,

00:34:50.320 that it's a couple hundred years old from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli,

00:34:55.480 that's, uh, the battle hymn of the Republic.

00:34:57.520 What was the American Navy doing in the shores of Tripoli?

00:35:01.540 Like, I knew about that.

00:35:02.800 I, yeah, I knew about those adventures.

00:35:04.080 I didn't realize that they had come as far North as Ireland.

00:35:07.400 Yeah.

00:35:07.880 Oh yeah.

00:35:09.540 Absolutely.

00:35:10.660 So, I mean, the American Navy was against pirates and some of the things these pirates

00:35:15.140 traded on was slaves.

00:35:16.300 All right, let's get back to your column, Israel, a true indigenous success story.

00:35:21.040 They're trying to destroy Israel's indigenous claim because they want to replace Israel. 0.96

00:35:28.680 There's, as you mentioned, there's dozens of Arab countries, even more Muslim countries.

00:35:33.580 If you look at a map, Israel's a tiny little sliver.

00:35:36.740 I don't think it's really about land.

00:35:38.280 I don't think it's really about the Palestinian people who are ethnically the same as Arabs.

00:35:43.400 Linguistically, they speak Arabic.

00:35:45.300 Religiously, most of them are Muslim.

00:35:46.840 Some are Christian.

00:35:48.400 I don't think it's about the Palestinians.

00:35:50.320 I think it's about getting Israel.

00:35:51.600 I don't think it's a pro-Palestinian movement.

00:35:54.420 I think it's an anti-Jewish movement.

00:35:56.360 What do you think of that?

00:35:56.980 It is.

00:35:57.620 It is.

00:35:59.380 It's anti-Jewish and it's actually pro-Hamas, which is even to compound the gravity of the

00:36:08.060 hatred.

00:36:10.400 They are actually marching and screaming in favor of a known terrorist organization whose 0.92

00:36:20.760 charter calls for the eradication of Jews worldwide, but certainly in Israel, and who 0.83

00:36:27.280 will never be satisfied. 0.89

00:36:29.400 It never was about statehood for Hamas.

00:36:33.380 It was always about Islamist triumphalism. 0.94

00:36:38.880 In that respect, not so very different from ISIS and Al-Qaeda and other caliphate restoring 0.78

00:36:47.660 or wanting to restore the caliphate.

00:36:49.880 These Islamic supremacist movements, that's what they are, and Hamas is one. 0.99

00:36:56.320 You know, over the last few weeks, we've seen just atrocious hate marches on the streets,

00:37:01.000 flying the flags of terrorist group.

00:37:02.700 Just the other day, when Giorgio Maloney, the leader of Italy, was in town to meet with

00:37:07.600 Trudeau, there were protesters outside with flags with machine guns on them.

00:37:13.580 Like when you call for intifada, which is an Arabic word for a violent uprising, when you

00:37:18.740 have machine guns as your symbol, when you're literally flying the flags of terrorist groups,

00:37:23.840 you really, you're not hiding a lot.

00:37:27.240 You're not keeping a lot close to your chest.

00:37:29.780 And I saw a liberal MP, Marco Mendocino, tweet over the weekend, do you think you're

00:37:36.480 going to persuade people with this?

00:37:38.260 You're not.

00:37:39.220 He doesn't get it.

00:37:39.960 They're not trying to persuade anyone.

00:37:41.640 They're trying to terrify people, and they're trying to reset the frame of what's normal.

00:37:46.280 They're trying to normalize being terrorized and terrified, and who's dominant, and who can

00:37:51.420 resist the police.

00:37:53.160 Well, they're doing a good job of dominating, because they have gotten several events shut

00:37:56.820 down that should not have been shut down, even if they had to call out.

00:37:59.780 You know, the army to let it go forward.

00:38:03.080 These tactics of shutting down events because they're afraid of violent protest is really 0.98

00:38:10.900 stupid, because, I mean, all they're doing is encouraging more of it. 0.99

00:38:16.620 It's stupid on the part of the authorities, but it's brilliant on the part of the... 1.00

00:38:19.660 I mean, the numbers of these marches, sometimes the marches in Canada have mustered more than 0.98

00:38:24.720 10,000 people, and I find that worrying.

00:38:26.780 But it's mainly a cadre of old-fashioned, left-wing, woke, you know, white kids. 0.52

00:38:33.280 And then a number of new immigrants, typically from Muslim countries, and it's so clearly the 0.70

00:38:40.180 fingerprints, and we know this from global news and other reports, that there's 700

00:38:43.520 Iranian agents in Canada who were basically paid organizers for this stuff.

00:38:48.680 They always were with al-Quds day, as they called it. 1.00

00:38:51.120 But they're not trying to persuade anybody.

00:38:54.960 They're trying to say, we're the new boss in town.

00:38:57.920 This is the new normal. 0.99

00:38:59.780 Jews should expect to be denounced. 1.00

00:39:01.420 And they're trying to encourage people to move the Overton window, to radicalize society, 0.95

00:39:09.120 to demoralize the opponents, to terrify Jews, drive them out, to basically do to Canada 0.78

00:39:18.260 what happened the other day in Rochdale, UK, when George Galloway ran on a purely pro-Gaza campaign.

00:39:26.860 Here's a clip of him saying the victory was for Gaza.

00:39:29.200 Take a look.

00:39:29.720 Keir Starmer, this is for Gaza.

00:39:36.620 You have paid, and you will pay, a high price for the role that you have played

00:39:45.840 in enabling, encouraging, and covering for the catastrophe

00:39:54.180 presently going on in occupied Palestine in the Gaza Strip.

00:40:01.360 So there's a white guy who claims he's converted to Islam.

00:40:04.560 I'm not sure if he has.

00:40:06.200 Basically saying...

00:40:06.840 He might as well, because he's been a friend to Hamas and Hezbollah for many, many years. 0.81

00:40:13.300 He embraces the leadership of those terrorist groups.

00:40:15.060 He absolutely is all in for these groups.

00:40:20.100 You mentioned the Iranian agents here.

00:40:27.240 In Iran itself, by the way, there's not a whole lot of protest against Israel at all.

00:40:35.980 And those there are, have been organized by the regime.

00:40:39.920 Iranians, Iranians themselves are not hostile to Jews, not particularly, or not many of them.

00:40:48.680 And a lot of them are actually quite friendly in their thoughts to Israel.

00:40:53.760 So they're unlike many other Muslim Middle Eastern countries. 0.80

00:40:58.640 They're much more sophisticated in their thinking about Israel and Jews.

00:41:04.180 Well, and Persians in Canada are often at Jewish events against the terrorists.

00:41:09.060 I should note that the largest street protests in the world, there was a large one in Turkey, I'll grant you that.

00:41:15.700 But other than that once, the weekly or monthly protests, hate marches in London, England are far larger than anything in the Arab world. 0.84

00:41:26.180 There's no rallies in Cairo or Damascus or Dubai or Abu Dhabi or Riyadh.

00:41:34.780 They're just not.

00:41:36.140 It's the Western agitators, which are a combination of domestic leftists and foreign instruments of Iran or others.

00:41:45.400 I think they're using us as some sort of weird laboratory.

00:41:49.080 And I hate the fact that no one in authority is pushing back.

00:41:53.000 I don't know if you saw over the weekend some of the crazy antics outside a Jewish synagogue in Toronto.

00:41:57.680 Like they're not even pretending.

00:41:58.960 It's just about Israel. 0.58

00:42:00.720 They're having protests at Jewish synagogues now, Barbara.

00:42:03.640 Yeah.

00:42:03.960 And you notice October 7th, the gloves came right off.

00:42:06.660 All that fig leaf stuff about, no, we're not anti-Semitic.

00:42:10.680 We're just critics of Israel. 0.97

00:42:12.840 That's all by the board now.

00:42:14.500 I mean, it's gone.

00:42:15.840 And this is what's so demoralizing to Jews here, the shock of the open anti-Semitism.

00:42:21.320 You know, we don't serve Jews. 0.99

00:42:23.380 Get out. 0.97

00:42:24.280 You know, Jews, you're like Jews, Zionists. 1.00

00:42:27.660 They make no pretense of trying to distinguish at all.

00:42:33.700 And they feel the freedom. 0.97

00:42:36.040 They feel the freedom to just scream their hatred of Jews. 0.64

00:42:40.660 And that's, and there's no leadership here or one that feels a lack of leadership in combating that.

00:42:49.600 It's a little creepy.

00:42:51.360 And I think a lot of Jews have this terrible feeling of dread that this is possibly going to escalate and that the backup from our government, it's just not as strong.

00:43:08.300 It's not as reassuring as it should be.

00:43:10.800 They don't have all back in a way that, you know.

00:43:14.180 Part of these weekly dominance pageants are to test the limits, to see how far they can go. 1.00

00:43:20.060 Can we chant from the river to the sea?

00:43:22.420 Can we chant there's only one solution into final revolution?

00:43:26.460 So they're talking about a final solution.

00:43:28.440 They're talking about final uprising.

00:43:29.980 Every week they're seeing how far they can go.

00:43:31.600 And so far the answer is there's no limit.

00:43:34.440 Let's see if we can stop Trudeau from meeting with G7 leader, Georgia Maloney.

00:43:39.960 Check.

00:43:40.520 Yeah, no problem.

00:43:41.280 We got that.

00:43:41.860 I mean, compare the police reaction to the trucker convoy or the anti-vax protesters, straight to jail, batons, riot horses.

00:43:51.960 But you're literally masked, flying Hamas flags, waving Hamas placards, and they'll cancel a G7 meeting.

00:44:01.960 I don't think that's an accident.

00:44:03.960 I think that it's a decision.

00:44:05.420 People look at Justin Trudeau for guidance.

00:44:08.460 He has never condemned these hate marches.

00:44:10.440 He gives so much moral support to Hamas, they've literally put out a thank you video.

00:44:16.000 I think that Canada has a lot further to fall before Trudeau is replaced as prime minister, which I hope will be soon.

00:44:23.320 Last word to you, Barbara.

00:44:24.940 I mean, it was a very interesting article you wrote about Israel being indigenous people.

00:44:29.280 But that's an academic argument, an intellectual argument, a historical argument.

00:44:34.200 I don't think that's where the battlefield is.

00:44:36.520 I think the battlefield here is raw hatred and it's foreign manipulation, a foreign-funded foreign argument. 0.78

00:44:42.360 I agree with you that there's this very visceral side to this situation.

00:44:48.900 And I think my column did seem as if it was quite academic in a way.

00:44:55.640 But I think it's warranted because it starts in the universities and it starts with professors giving students reasons to justify their hatred of Israel. 0.94

00:45:11.700 And because indigenous peoples here are so revered and sanctified and indigeneity is one of those protected ideas, that it's a kind of holy thing to be indigenous.

00:45:26.700 And by encouraging indigenous identification with Palestinians rather than with Jews, it gives ammunition for these students to say, well, of course we're on the Palestinian side.

00:45:43.300 That's, you know, it's the same as we're on the side of indigenous people in Canada.

00:45:49.060 We're on the side of all indigenous people.

00:45:51.040 And the more they identify the Palestinians as the oppressed people of that region.

00:45:57.040 So I think attacking that idea is very important because they shouldn't get away with it.

00:46:03.320 And it's good to know that there is this coalition of indigenous peoples' support for Israel in various parts of the world, especially in the South Pacific, New Zealand and other islands in the South Pacific.

00:46:16.040 And I did want to say there is support amongst certain indigenous peoples in Canada, too.

00:46:22.100 And there were a couple of other articles after October 7th where some indigenous people in Canada, Chris Sankey and Karen Restoul, who very strongly came out and said,

00:46:37.720 do not bunch us together with the Palestinians, because it looks like we're endorsing these atrocities, that we're endorsing a kind of resistance that is violence based. 0.67

00:46:50.400 We don't do that.

00:46:51.680 Wow.

00:46:52.120 We are opposed to that.

00:46:54.500 But they are not.

00:46:56.180 They are few amongst many voices.

00:46:58.980 And I did note that Karen Restoul, who was a member of the Dokis First Nation, she was out there with her name signing a letter to Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Jolie to say this.

00:47:13.860 But she noted that the other people that signed that were with her on this campaign to, you know, detach from this movement amongst other indigenous leaders to identify with Palestine would not sign their names because they were afraid of blowback from the larger groups.

00:47:33.920 And so I think we have to keep this academic side to the fore just as much as we have to fight the actual violence and the actual protesting and all of that.

00:47:46.820 Great point.

00:47:47.740 Well, it's nice to catch up with you.

00:47:48.900 The article is called Israel, A True Indigenous Success Story.

00:47:52.280 And it was in the National Post on February 24th.

00:47:55.400 Thanks again, Barbara.

00:47:56.120 Great to see you.

00:47:57.320 Thanks for having me, Ezra.

00:47:58.420 Stay with us.

00:47:59.120 More ahead.

00:48:03.920 Hey, welcome back.

00:48:12.160 Your Letters to Me, a 60-year-old rock star, says this about the CBC getting a pay raise from taxpayers.

00:48:19.080 Purchasing favoritism should be illegal.

00:48:22.180 Well, welcome to Canada, where not just the CBC, but every newspaper's journalist are on the payroll, too.

00:48:27.480 Craig Wiss says, we have to cancel Disney Plus, and the money we save goes to pay the carbon tax on April 1st.

00:48:33.880 Isn't that the truth?

00:48:34.920 What a disgraceful comment that was from Chrystia Freeland when she says, oh, just cancel Disney Plus. 0.96

00:48:39.600 Yeah, like you've ever canceled anything.

00:48:42.300 Shaddy C says, about 12 years ago, I planned to start a new life in Canada after finishing university.

00:48:47.240 Now, every time I hear about what's happening in Canada, I congratulate myself for not going through with that.

00:48:51.780 Without a doubt, that would have been the worst mistake of my life.

00:48:54.060 Well, look, I've lived in Canada my whole life.

00:48:57.480 My parents, my grandparents, my great-grandparents came here in 1903.

00:49:01.220 It's a pretty great country.

00:49:02.640 There's a lot of wonderful things to it.

00:49:04.440 And there's a lot of wonderful things in Canada that have nothing to do with the government.

00:49:07.380 There's a lot of things in Canada that have nothing to do with the government.

00:49:11.200 But that said, they've made everything they touch worse.

00:49:14.460 And we do have to turn it around because it is getting awful, whether it's mundane things like traffic or serious things like affordability of food and housing and fuel.

00:49:24.480 Or more terrifying things like crime waves, violence, and now the specter of terrorism.

00:49:30.400 Canada has more problems now than we have in almost a century.

00:49:35.320 I hope we're up to fix it.

00:49:37.500 When I look at polls, I'm encouraged.

00:49:39.400 People are sick of Justin Trudeau.

00:49:41.380 But I don't know if our system is accurately reflecting that.

00:49:44.640 Hopefully, we'll be freer and happier in the future.

00:49:48.280 That's our show for today.

00:49:49.980 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:49:54.560 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:49:55.620 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - March 05, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Canada's Hamas sympathizers continue to stir anti-Semitic hate, and local police don't seem to care

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