00:13:13.300an apparent Hamas support network. And noted the charity has received money from the Qatar charity.
00:13:19.440That's the CRA's phrase, not mine. Money from Qatar, votes in Mississauga, praise from Beijing,
00:13:27.420a middle finger to Washington, and a state that just told the world that it can't be bothered to
00:13:31.260hold an election. So here's where I'll leave it. I mean, Mark Carney told you there were conditions.
00:13:35.940He told you Hamas could play no part in this. He told you there'd be an election in 2026 tonight.
00:13:40.480every one of those conditions is dead and he's still recognizing Palestine. He's not going to0.88
00:13:47.020take it back. He's not even going to be asked to take it back. So the next time Mark Carney tells
00:13:51.600you his word is his bond, whether it's on a pipeline or a budget, well remember what his
00:13:56.440conditions were in Palestine. Nothing. And he knew it when he said it, didn't he? Stay with us for more.
00:14:10.480I'm here from Rebel News. I'm at the University of Calgary, my alma mater.
00:14:18.000I went to school here about 30 years ago in the 20th century.
00:14:21.540I'm back today because, as you can see behind me, there's over 100 protesters and ralliers who are meeting today in the common field outside the Student Center
00:14:34.120to talk about what happened a week ago when our reporter Drea Humphrey and Dr. Tom Flanagan,
00:14:40.360a retired professor here, had a free speech event with Canadian students for free speech.
00:14:46.860And it was basically inviting the students of the university to debate.
00:14:51.260And the thesis or the question was, were the residential schools in Canada a genocide?
00:14:58.200I think that's an excellent question.0.55
00:14:59.720I think we can all agree that in many cases, young indigenous children were taken contrary to the wishes of their parents and put in these boarding schools explicitly for the purpose for acculturating them in the European style civilization, as in remove them from their indigenous language and beliefs.
00:15:20.800And really, I think part of the goal was practical to integrate young Indigenous people into the economy, into the world.
00:15:30.840And by the way, many Indigenous people thought that was a very useful thing.
00:15:36.100I give you the example of the Cold Lake Indian Band that positively petitioned the Canadian government to set up a residential school for their kids.
00:15:45.940I know that, for example, a very famous Indigenous playwright said that his time at residential school was the happiest time of his life.
00:15:53.220I personally know two alumni of residential schools, one of whom is a successful lawyer, and says had it not been for the building blocks he learned in residential school, there's just simply no way he would have been able to climb to the heights of the legal system that he has.
00:16:10.840Again, I do not deny that there were some cruelties.
00:16:15.080And when the metaphor of children being kidnapped and put in these schools is used,
00:16:20.220I do believe that that's how it was in many cases.
00:16:22.640In other cases, it was just like other boarding schools.
00:16:27.120There's some sorrow when young kids go away to boarding schools,
00:16:29.980but it's something that many families choose.
00:16:32.620Of course, there are always abuses when young kids are overnight at a facility with teachers.
00:16:38.180It's not just indigenous residential schools where some of these problems would have.
00:16:42.560But I'm not here to dispute that there were individual atrocities.
00:16:46.140I do note, however, that there may be some incentive to expand the actual number of atrocities because there were massive payments to people who claimed that they were abused.
00:16:59.800I'm not saying no one was abused, but when you pay people thousands or sometimes tens of thousands of dollars, you're more likely to get them to give a false positive than a false negative.
00:17:09.600But what I'm talking about here is what happened a week ago at this debate is our residential schools, were they a genocide?
00:17:18.980And I think you can say they were wrong or had some bad side effects.
00:17:24.840And I think you should acknowledge the good that they did as well.
00:17:27.520I think you can conclude that they were wrong. You can conclude that they were an attack on indigeneity. You can conclude that they were designed deliberately to integrate indigenous people into the common culture.1.00
00:17:41.480You can say that's wrong and still realize that that is not a genocide.
00:17:47.180And the accusation of a genocide is a very politically powerful weapon to destroy the moral value of Canada.
00:17:56.560And by the way, it was Justin Trudeau and no one less than the former Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Beverly McLaughlin, who denounced and accused Canada of genocide for that very thing.
00:18:07.800that's a demoralization tactic to say that canada is not a proud country with a noble past but
00:18:15.200rather that we're no better than you know the turks genociding the armenians or the nazis
00:18:20.700genociding the jews it's an outrageous calumny and yet it has been woven in to so much of official
00:18:27.700life there are it's an establishment convention now to start with a land back acknowledgement
00:18:35.180a land acknowledgement, which essentially says Canada was stolen, not built, not settled.
00:18:42.560I don't think that's historically accurate, but it's not even about that.
00:18:45.860I think it's about a moral attack on the idea of Canada itself.
00:18:50.280But let me tell you about what I've seen here over the last few hours.
00:18:53.980The first thing that jumps right out at you is that this event,
00:18:59.700these speakers are standing in front of a stage with the trans flag.
00:19:04.280They are painted not just in the rainbow pride flag, but in the transgender flag.
00:19:09.320There's nothing more politically correct and just exquisitely fashionable than university politics.
00:19:16.140I heard a number of speakers. I listened to probably four or five.
00:19:20.140And much of what they said is, you know, was I would call indigenous studies or sympathy for those who were harmed in the past.
00:19:28.240And I found most of it unobjectionable.
00:19:31.320I did hear one reference to the university defining the difference between hate speech and free speech, and I would say that hate speech is a form of free speech.
00:19:42.240And being a university student is about being able to learn how to respond to speech you don't like, not to complain to the teacher or the police to get your opponent taken away.
00:19:55.300I managed to speak with a few people here who were with the Revolutionary Communist Party.
00:20:03.240And what's so interesting is that they're everywhere.
00:20:07.520I see the Revolutionary Communist Party at pretty much every left-wing protest in America and Canada, too.
00:20:14.860They must be well-funded and well-organized.
00:20:17.280They have beautiful materials from their logos to their merchandise to their pamphlets,
00:20:22.300which they sell for five bucks a pop, by the way.
00:20:25.300Um, it's, it's sort of astonishing. And one thing I'll say for them, they do not refuse to be interviewed. They love to talk, they'll talk the hind legs off a horse, because they believe, as all communists do, to join every battle against the establishment, to join everyone who's an oppressed person, no matter what the oppression is, race, gender, sexuality, you know, the working people versus capitalists.
00:20:51.340It is a belief of these revolutionary communists to join every battle against the center.
00:25:38.140I mean, there were a few people who were passive aggressive to me, and that's their right.
00:25:43.260I mean, I think the response to speech you don't like is your own speech or it's your right to not speak at all.
00:25:51.680So the behavior on campus at this event was much better than it was last week when a handful of troublemakers jostled and shouted and in the end poured water on Dr. Tom Flanagan.
00:26:03.340By the way, I think it was water, but what's to stop it from being something else next time?
00:26:08.200I've seen Antifa bring bottles of human urine and throw it at people.
00:26:26.220I think the university was, I think it respects freedom of speech so far.
00:26:33.460And this is a very difficult issue to allow free speech on because there's so much of the establishment that is invested in not only the notion that residential schools were a genocide, but in the particular situation of the Kamloops residential school.
00:26:49.560As you know, about five years ago, there was a discovery of 215 bodies in a mass grave outside the residential school, except for every fact I said there was wrong.
00:27:14.860What you do if you think it's a body is you exhume it.
00:27:18.300You have forensics experts carefully dig to see what is down there.
00:27:23.360The Kamloops Bend has received millions of dollars to do just that.
00:27:27.040But for whatever reason, they have refused to do so.
00:27:30.200In those few circumstances where other Indian bands have excavated, they have found that indeed there were not mass graves or anonymous graves, but they were graves.
00:27:41.280For residential schools 130 years ago, especially schools that were around for 50 years, there would be deaths.
00:27:50.160Wab Kanu gave a speech the other day at a cemetery, and he gave examples of some of the deaths.
00:27:55.580Here's an example. Take a look from Wab Kanu.
00:27:57.840some bad people today say fill me the graves right here we shouldn't have to prove the truth
00:28:07.440over and over again but we will these are kids from the brandon indian residential school
00:29:20.100one person died from lightning none of that is a genocide none of that is malicious and none of it
00:29:26.340is actually an atrocity that's what life was like 130 years ago especially um you know out on the
00:29:34.500farm a lot of these residential schools taught the boys how to farm and the girls how to sew that's
00:29:40.100just one of the trades they were taught so i don't know it's it's it's difficult to challenge the
00:29:48.900slur of a genocide at all. And it's extremely difficult to challenge the central proof point
00:29:55.700of the woke left, which is that Kamloops had a mass grave where white people murdered or disposed
00:30:04.080of or did something nefarious towards Indigenous students. That simply hasn't been proved.
00:30:10.560And asking for a forensic investigation of a of a extreme allegation like that is not racism, it's journalism.
00:30:23.000And I think that a professor like Dr. Tom Flanagan and a reporter like Andrea Humphrey, who went to Kamloops and actually talked to the chief, I think they have the right to talk on a campus.
00:30:34.520And I think students on the campus have the right to hear.
00:30:39.740When you silence someone, you're not just limiting their rights.
00:30:43.360You're limiting the rights of people who want to hear the other side of the story.
00:30:46.440And frankly, are you doing anyone any good by teaching them that the response to hurty words is to be violent or to call for the shutdown or the arrest of your opponents?
00:30:56.780I tell you one thing, I've never seen anyone in my entire life who was convinced because you slapped some duct tape over their mouth.
00:31:03.660even haters even people who are motivated by hate hate comes from an underlying grievance
00:31:11.440and until you deal with that grievance you're not going to turn off that emotion of hate
00:31:16.300censorship by definition cements and freezes uh grievances they will not go away in fact if
00:31:24.460anything they're proven because the man the establishment won't let you ask your point
00:31:28.680I guess I would conclude by saying the Canadian Students for Free Speech, which hosted the
00:31:33.900event last week, is off to a strong start.
00:31:37.140And I think the University of Calgary, so far, has done the right thing.
00:31:41.760As that Canadian Students for Free Speech grows across the country, we'll be able to
00:31:47.800measure in real time how the other universities in this country do.