Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Did a lone man from Red Deer really defeat Alberta's lockdown in court — and free the whole province？

00:00:00.000 Well, my friends, there's a viral video out there.

00:00:02.580 Stu Peters is the host.

00:00:05.060 A Canadian named Patrick King is the star interviewee

00:00:09.520 who claims he defeated Alberta's lockdown

00:00:12.680 in a case in Red Deer that he sort of screwed up jurisdictionally,

00:00:18.260 but he absolutely liberated the whole province.

00:00:20.960 Is it true?

00:00:22.620 Almost a million people have watched the video.

00:00:24.800 I'll go through it, I'll play a big clip of it,

00:00:26.700 and I'll explain why I don't quite think it's what it pretends to be.

00:00:32.320 Oh, people are going to be mad at me for this

00:00:34.200 because it's nice to hope and to dream, isn't it,

00:00:37.320 especially in these hopeless times.

00:00:39.880 I hope you watch the whole thing.

00:00:42.540 This is a video where it's a big help

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00:01:21.760 All right, here's today's program.

00:01:23.000 Tonight, did a lone man from Red Deer

00:01:25.740 really defeat Alberta's lockdown in court

00:01:28.180 and free the whole province?

00:01:29.960 It's August 5th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:32.420 Why should others go to jail

00:01:36.200 when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:38.400 There's 8,500 customers here,

00:01:40.700 and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:42.480 The only thing I have to say to the government

00:01:44.400 about why I'm publishing it

00:01:46.080 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:48.340 In the six years we've had Rebel News,

00:01:55.520 this has got to be one of the top news stories

00:01:58.300 that people have sent to us to cover.

00:02:02.200 I think we've received over 100 emails

00:02:04.640 telling us about this case,

00:02:07.860 asking us about it, recommending it to us,

00:02:10.260 telling us to pass it on to our lawyers

00:02:12.160 so they can learn from it.

00:02:13.840 I don't think I'd comment on it except for that reason.

00:02:17.360 It has obviously captured the imagination

00:02:20.360 of a lot of people, and I think I know why.

00:02:24.260 Last I checked, the video question here

00:02:26.580 received almost 800,000 views on rumble.com alone.

00:02:33.240 I think it's because we're in the worst of times,

00:02:35.380 not medically, but politically, legally.

00:02:38.260 In terms of the virus, there's an actual health crisis.

00:02:42.040 Look at this.

00:02:42.680 This is a map of COVID-19 deaths in Canada this past week.

00:02:48.760 Second largest landmass in the world, 38 million people,

00:02:51.700 and we're averaging fewer than 10 deaths per day.

00:02:54.280 Average age is still very old, over 80.

00:02:56.840 Average victim is very sick from other things.

00:02:59.340 Six out of Canada's 14 provinces and territories,

00:03:02.500 sorry, 13 provinces and territories,

00:03:04.820 haven't had a single COVID death in more than a week.

00:03:06.940 And yet the lockdowns continue everywhere, except Alberta.

00:03:12.280 I know you wouldn't believe it,

00:03:13.280 given how shrill the nightly warnings are

00:03:15.160 about this Delta variant and that super-duper mutation

00:03:18.100 and all the fear of pornography that's called news today.

00:03:21.760 But the fact is, statistically speaking, it's done.

00:03:26.600 And it's been done for quite a while.

00:03:28.340 The politicians still punish children, though.

00:03:30.800 It really bothers me.

00:03:31.820 Schools with masks, schools by Zoom, kids at home.

00:03:37.600 In Ontario, there are more than 3 million minors in the province.

00:03:41.160 And the grand total of four people under age 20

00:03:44.080 have died from the virus since the beginning.

00:03:46.020 Pretty much one in a million.

00:03:47.420 And yet every kid must wear antisocial muzzles 1.00

00:03:52.080 for the privilege of going back to school

00:03:53.920 if the schools aren't canceled altogether.

00:03:55.820 And yet no one seems to care.

00:03:59.480 No one in power, at least.

00:04:00.800 No government, no opposition party, no major media outlet,

00:04:03.400 no official group of doctors or nurses

00:04:05.600 or university deans or judges, that's for sure.

00:04:08.800 It's madness upon madness.

00:04:10.860 I'm going on too long, but my point is this.

00:04:12.720 No one seems to be coming to save us.

00:04:15.520 And then there's this video that pops up on the internet

00:04:17.700 from an American pundit I don't think

00:04:19.640 a dozen Canadians had heard of before.

00:04:21.920 I hadn't heard of them before.

00:04:23.240 Talking to someone from Red Deer

00:04:24.680 that I don't think a dozen Canadians

00:04:26.080 had heard from before.

00:04:27.320 And they claim, in the words of that video's title,

00:04:31.760 Freedom Fighter Court Victory

00:04:33.760 Ends Masking Shots Quarantine in Alberta.

00:04:38.360 So you can understand why a hundred people

00:04:40.740 have sent this to us

00:04:41.700 and why close to a million people

00:04:43.600 have watched it in just a couple of days.

00:04:46.400 Finally, finally, a hero.

00:04:49.980 Is it true?

00:04:52.200 Is it a miracle?

00:04:53.320 Have our prayers been answered?

00:04:55.400 They seem so confident and optimistic that it has.

00:04:59.180 If parliaments and legislatures have failed us

00:05:01.520 and of courts have failed us

00:05:02.840 and the so-called civil liberties groups

00:05:05.180 have failed us and the media

00:05:06.180 and, of course, academia and every establishment,

00:05:08.980 everyone who's supposed to be on guard,

00:05:10.160 if they all failed and were desperate

00:05:12.140 and nothing seems to add up

00:05:13.520 and then this miracle happens,

00:05:15.700 there's a term in literature,

00:05:16.960 Deus Ex Machina,

00:05:18.020 where some miracle just comes abruptly

00:05:20.500 to fix a problem in the plot line.

00:05:23.640 I think that explains the passion and excitement for the story

00:05:26.180 and it also explains the anger and the sense of betrayal

00:05:29.780 when I mentioned on my noontime livestream yesterday

00:05:32.800 that, alas, it's just too good to be true.

00:05:35.800 It's not what it claims to be.

00:05:36.880 Why would people be so mad about that?

00:05:41.380 About a story they just heard about

00:05:43.240 from a video host none of them had ever watched before.

00:05:46.220 Stu Peters, you ever heard of him before?

00:05:47.380 Talking to someone they never knew before.

00:05:50.560 Patrick King, did you know him?

00:05:53.080 Why the rage?

00:05:55.300 I think I know why.

00:05:57.180 Because we need help so badly

00:05:59.180 that even false hope is better than no hope.

00:06:03.220 And even if that guy in the video isn't right,

00:06:05.560 at least he's fighting, at least he's trying.

00:06:08.340 Now, I'm going to play a large chunk of the video to you.

00:06:10.640 The whole thing is about 17 minutes.

00:06:12.660 I'm not going to play that much.

00:06:13.560 I'll play 10 minutes of it.

00:06:14.840 You'll see a few things immediately

00:06:17.160 that cause your ears to perk up.

00:06:18.920 The host is American, Stu Peters.

00:06:21.120 He's not quite sure things in Canada.

00:06:23.400 He calls the Globe and Mail the Daily Mail.

00:06:26.380 The video went up two days ago, August 3rd.

00:06:28.480 The court case they're talking about

00:06:30.080 happened on July 21st,

00:06:31.980 yet Alberta's lockdowns were lifted

00:06:34.100 three weeks earlier.

00:06:36.240 They were lifted on July 1st.

00:06:39.100 But they say that this court case

00:06:41.280 is what lifted them.

00:06:42.040 That happened 20 days earlier.

00:06:43.400 That's also when the mask mandates were lifted, too.

00:06:47.260 It's just not accurate right from the beginning.

00:06:50.920 But what they lack in accuracy,

00:06:52.360 they make up for in enthusiasm.

00:06:54.780 It's the American host who says

00:06:56.360 most of the convincing and hopeful words,

00:06:58.700 and not the Canadian guests

00:06:59.780 he's supposedly interviewing.

00:07:01.980 I note that the Canadian, Patrick King,

00:07:04.320 doesn't correct him,

00:07:05.520 so they leave the impression.

00:07:07.400 But I think later the Canadian warms to the theme

00:07:10.480 he starts to believe the American,

00:07:12.320 and he says that he's finally cracked the code.

00:07:15.700 He knows how to win this all,

00:07:17.680 to win everywhere,

00:07:18.780 to win the whole country,

00:07:20.420 and everyone should follow his legal strategy.

00:07:23.140 He's not a lawyer,

00:07:23.940 but he found what the smart lawyers couldn't.

00:07:26.900 Here, watch.

00:07:27.480 I'm going to play ten full minutes of this

00:07:29.780 because it's interesting.

00:07:32.140 When last I checked,

00:07:32.980 almost 800,000 people watched it on Rumble alone.

00:07:35.520 More elsewhere.

00:07:36.780 Watch this

00:07:37.600 to see what all the excitement is about.

00:07:40.360 See what a hundred people have emailed me.

00:07:42.800 I'm going to play ten minutes of it,

00:07:43.820 but please hold on

00:07:44.620 and wait for me on the other side.

00:07:46.260 I want to talk to you about it.

00:07:47.400 Take a look.

00:07:50.160 Well, we are happy to break news out of Canada

00:07:53.240 that the Daily Mail will not touch.

00:07:55.280 None of the mainstream media is going to touch this.

00:07:57.220 These propagandists are going to hide this from you

00:07:59.920 because this is encouraging to freedom fighters,

00:08:02.640 patriots who want to take matters into their own hands

00:08:05.660 and stand up against this tyrannical,

00:08:08.040 overreaching system of mandates

00:08:09.920 that forces you to muzzle yourself

00:08:12.100 with an ineffective face diaper,

00:08:14.200 socially distance away from your family,

00:08:16.160 stop giving hugs,

00:08:16.940 not visiting grandma,

00:08:18.020 masking up your kids in school for 10 hours a day,

00:08:20.300 possibly while you're exercising.

00:08:21.700 It's all ridiculous.

00:08:23.160 But breaking out of Alberta today,

00:08:25.820 mandatory masking is coming to an end.

00:08:27.760 Kids will not be masking when they return to school.

00:08:30.160 Mandatory quarantine will be ending,

00:08:32.580 contact tracing, testing for mild symptoms.

00:08:35.600 It's all done.

00:08:37.020 They will now be recognizing COVID as a mild flu

00:08:40.320 and treating it as such.

00:08:41.780 Freedom has won in Alberta,

00:08:44.000 proving that fighting does work.

00:08:46.080 Joining us now is Patrick King,

00:08:48.060 a devoted father of two, a proud Canadian.

00:08:50.220 You were fined $1,200 for violating

00:08:52.460 the COVID-19 Public Health Act

00:08:54.440 for being in a group larger than 10,

00:08:56.520 which I'm assuming is what lit the fire inside of you.

00:08:59.680 And it appears that you, sir,

00:09:01.240 were a part of the efforts

00:09:02.200 that we can now celebrate today.

00:09:03.480 Tell us about it.

00:09:05.280 Yeah, for sure.

00:09:06.180 Thanks for having me on, Stu.

00:09:08.440 Yeah, on December 5th, we held a rally.

00:09:10.960 So in Red Deer, Alberta, Canada,

00:09:13.000 we have been known as the only city in Canada

00:09:15.960 to hold the longest rally

00:09:17.220 against all these government mandates

00:09:19.340 that they've been putting in.

00:09:20.340 And with regards to even our industries,

00:09:22.960 I started back about four years ago.

00:09:25.440 I'm an oil and gas worker,

00:09:26.840 have been for over 17 years.

00:09:28.360 I also hold a degree

00:09:29.180 in occupational health and safety and environment.

00:09:31.600 And when they started to attack

00:09:33.320 our industry out here,

00:09:34.220 I started getting a little bit more vocal.

00:09:36.260 So we've held rallies on our streets

00:09:37.960 with regards to oil and gas

00:09:39.740 and this government that we have

00:09:41.400 for over three and a half years.

00:09:43.080 And on December 5th,

00:09:44.360 we were celebrating our 200th week

00:09:47.580 of being on the corner

00:09:48.960 on a Saturday morning protesting.

00:09:51.640 And on that particular day,

00:09:53.300 COVID mandates were implemented

00:09:55.780 and they were going on

00:09:57.340 for the last little while.

00:09:59.000 And I was obviously targeted

00:10:00.960 because of my voice.

00:10:01.960 And I know this,

00:10:02.700 and it's in the transcripts in the court.

00:10:04.640 I was targeted

00:10:05.660 and I received a ticket of $1,200.

00:10:08.540 So I waited for my time in court.

00:10:10.400 I ended up getting it on May the 4th,

00:10:12.280 finally, and I went into court

00:10:13.600 and I produced some information

00:10:15.440 that I needed to request

00:10:16.800 in order to put up

00:10:18.460 a good plausible defense.

00:10:20.520 And my material that I requested

00:10:22.580 was the isolation

00:10:23.440 of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

00:10:25.360 And I wanted it isolated

00:10:26.600 and not in a lab setting

00:10:29.080 or in a PCR test

00:10:30.160 because we know the PCR tests,

00:10:31.660 they're overspun.

00:10:32.920 We know we're not stupid people.

00:10:34.860 We know, we research, we look.

00:10:36.820 So in doing that,

00:10:38.120 they kind of shut me out of the court.

00:10:39.600 I was supposed to be in court

00:10:40.420 on May the 18th.

00:10:41.820 All of a sudden I get,

00:10:43.100 once I deliver all of this,

00:10:44.420 and I get told,

00:10:45.560 as a self-representative,

00:10:46.800 I can,

00:10:48.200 the judge has to advocate for me

00:10:50.480 and steer me in the right direction.

00:10:52.020 At which time she allowed me

00:10:53.720 to subpoena Dina Hinshaw,

00:10:56.720 who is our chief medical officer

00:10:58.280 of health for Alberta,

00:11:00.240 who basically,

00:11:01.420 what my defense was to be was,

00:11:03.480 I needed proof

00:11:04.440 that you have isolated

00:11:05.880 the SARS-CoV-2 virus

00:11:07.300 and that, therefore,

00:11:08.880 the science would give you

00:11:10.000 the backing

00:11:10.600 for your public health act.

00:11:11.740 Which in plain and simple terms

00:11:13.460 means prove to me

00:11:14.620 that a pandemic exists.

00:11:16.100 Prove to me

00:11:16.640 that we're all going to die.

00:11:17.840 Prove to me

00:11:18.220 that this thing

00:11:18.840 is raging out of control

00:11:20.000 and that people are dying

00:11:20.920 from this thing.

00:11:22.740 100%.

00:11:23.060 And if they did that,

00:11:24.400 then I would be no problem.

00:11:25.800 I would say,

00:11:26.780 okay, you're right.

00:11:27.720 You've got this.

00:11:28.400 I'll put this mask on.

00:11:30.020 Well,

00:11:30.240 as soon as I subpoenaed her,

00:11:32.300 I got an officer

00:11:33.860 shows up at my door

00:11:34.780 three days later.

00:11:35.840 He says,

00:11:36.160 Mr. King,

00:11:36.660 I need your address.

00:11:37.500 I said,

00:11:37.820 oh,

00:11:37.960 you mean the address

00:11:38.600 you're at right now?

00:11:39.820 You have that address?

00:11:41.260 Yeah,

00:11:41.540 well,

00:11:41.700 I need your email address.

00:11:42.860 And I said,

00:11:43.780 well,

00:11:43.920 the same email address

00:11:44.900 that's on all my correspondence

00:11:46.060 with you guys

00:11:46.880 and all this stuff?

00:11:47.600 You already have it.

00:11:48.480 Well,

00:11:48.660 I need your telephone number.

00:11:49.740 I said,

00:11:50.000 you mean the telephone number

00:11:50.880 that you call me on all the time?

00:11:52.720 And he's kind of looking dumb

00:11:53.900 and he says,

00:11:54.400 well,

00:11:54.520 I'm just here to tell you

00:11:55.380 that your court case

00:11:57.120 has been canceled.

00:11:58.280 I was like,

00:11:58.640 this can't happen.

00:11:59.800 You can't cancel my court case.

00:12:01.660 And he kind of snickered.

00:12:02.880 Well,

00:12:03.300 I ended up calling the courthouse,

00:12:05.140 got it rescheduled.

00:12:06.580 And upon the rescheduling,

00:12:08.020 I got it in.

00:12:09.180 And next thing I know,

00:12:10.380 I'm being subpoenaed

00:12:11.780 by Dina Hinshaw's lawyers now

00:12:13.580 on a Sunday morning

00:12:14.780 at 1153 in the morning.

00:12:16.180 I timestamped process service

00:12:18.420 serving me this.

00:12:19.560 In less than 24 hours,

00:12:20.960 I had to be in behind

00:12:21.860 closed chambers

00:12:22.620 with Dina Hinshaw's lawyers

00:12:24.480 and the judges.

00:12:25.900 And I'm like,

00:12:26.440 okay,

00:12:26.680 well,

00:12:26.860 this is odd.

00:12:27.420 This is what's called

00:12:28.240 a procedural violation.

00:12:29.640 You cannot serve

00:12:30.500 as somebody

00:12:31.020 a subpoena

00:12:31.980 less than 24 hours

00:12:33.380 before court.

00:12:34.360 And I knew they were

00:12:35.000 up to something dirty.

00:12:36.900 When I got the subpoena,

00:12:38.400 we went into court.

00:12:39.720 I get into court

00:12:40.480 the next day.

00:12:41.240 I call procedural violation

00:12:42.780 100%.

00:12:43.500 They said,

00:12:44.240 yes,

00:12:44.500 it's a procedural violation.

00:12:45.760 I said,

00:12:46.380 okay,

00:12:46.660 your honor,

00:12:47.020 well,

00:12:47.160 let's adjourn it

00:12:47.760 to Wednesday.

00:12:48.740 And this would have been

00:12:49.520 June,

00:12:51.640 or sorry,

00:12:52.140 July 24th.

00:12:53.260 And I would have been in court.

00:12:55.160 And she says,

00:12:55.920 no,

00:12:56.120 we can't.

00:12:57.120 I said,

00:12:57.500 your honor,

00:12:57.820 this is a procedural violation.

00:12:59.360 And well,

00:12:59.800 when that happened,

00:13:01.060 Dina Hinshaw's lawyer spoke up 0.98

00:13:02.740 and she said,

00:13:03.860 well,

00:13:04.060 your honor,

00:13:05.700 Mr.

00:13:06.040 King is requesting evidence

00:13:07.540 that we cannot give.

00:13:09.100 And I was kind of like,

00:13:10.720 what?

00:13:11.440 And I sent you a screenshot of it.

00:13:13.600 And in the screenshot,

00:13:14.540 it says,

00:13:15.260 the chief medical officer of health

00:13:17.480 has no material evidence

00:13:19.700 to provide Mr.

00:13:21.400 King for his defense,

00:13:22.860 which basically means

00:13:23.960 everything that I requested

00:13:25.200 in schedule A,

00:13:26.500 which is the isolation

00:13:27.380 of the SARS-CoV-2 virus

00:13:28.980 that needs to be

00:13:30.660 100% isolated

00:13:32.340 in order to base

00:13:33.180 your scientific facts

00:13:34.260 on these public health acts.

00:13:35.660 You don't have material evidence

00:13:37.160 for this.

00:13:38.080 And they said,

00:13:38.640 no.

00:13:39.420 And I had to reiterate again

00:13:41.240 to the lawyer

00:13:41.760 or to the judge.

00:13:42.580 I said,

00:13:42.840 your honor,

00:13:43.280 just for the record,

00:13:44.140 I want it to be

00:13:45.180 on the record,

00:13:46.460 duly noted

00:13:46.960 that the chief medical officer

00:13:48.540 of health of Alberta

00:13:49.380 does not have material evidence

00:13:50.860 I request.

00:13:52.000 She says,

00:13:52.460 yes, Mr. King,

00:13:53.400 they did say that.

00:13:54.580 Perfect.

00:13:55.380 I lose the subpoena

00:13:56.600 on Dina Hinshaw.

00:13:58.100 That's okay.

00:13:59.120 Because what had happened

00:14:00.180 is a procedural violation.

00:14:02.100 Now,

00:14:02.640 what they've done is

00:14:03.480 the court system

00:14:04.540 actually bamboozled me

00:14:05.940 and sent me

00:14:06.320 in the wrong direction,

00:14:07.260 which is a violation

00:14:08.200 of my rights

00:14:08.940 as a Canadian citizen.

00:14:10.600 I go in

00:14:11.520 on the 24th

00:14:12.960 and I couldn't believe it.

00:14:15.500 There are attorney,

00:14:16.640 general,

00:14:17.580 prosecutors

00:14:18.220 from Ottawa

00:14:19.220 in the courtroom

00:14:20.560 and now my statement

00:14:22.100 says no longer

00:14:23.020 does it say

00:14:23.580 Dina Hinshaw

00:14:24.440 versus Patrick King.

00:14:25.760 It states

00:14:26.700 the Queen,

00:14:27.900 Her Majesty the Queen

00:14:29.260 versus Patrick King.

00:14:31.520 So now,

00:14:32.620 where's my accuser?

00:14:33.760 If the Queen

00:14:34.280 is my accuser,

00:14:35.500 I get to address

00:14:36.400 my accuser.

00:14:37.680 Well,

00:14:38.240 lo and behold,

00:14:39.320 they find out

00:14:40.220 that everything I did

00:14:41.620 is absolutely phenomenal.

00:14:43.860 They can't believe it.

00:14:44.960 I remember,

00:14:45.460 I'll still remember

00:14:46.020 the look on the faces.

00:14:46.900 So I reiterated again,

00:14:49.060 the Chief Medical Officer

00:14:50.000 of Health

00:14:50.400 of Alberta,

00:14:51.320 Ms. Dina Hinshaw

00:14:52.200 and AHS

00:14:53.880 and the Alberta

00:14:54.620 Provincial Government

00:14:55.440 do not have

00:14:56.580 the material evidence

00:14:57.680 I request

00:14:58.420 for the isolation

00:14:59.160 of SARS-CoV-2.

00:15:00.380 And when the judge

00:15:01.240 said that,

00:15:01.860 these two stenographers

00:15:02.840 or stenographer

00:15:03.860 and a clerk

00:15:04.240 just went like this.

00:15:05.940 Yeah.

00:15:06.440 And their jaws 0.97

00:15:07.500 dropped to the floor.

00:15:09.060 Yeah,

00:15:09.220 they must have looked

00:15:09.820 at the judge like,

00:15:10.720 are we supposed

00:15:11.500 to type this?

00:15:12.400 Do you really want

00:15:15.300 this on the record?

00:15:16.780 I mean,

00:15:16.980 this is amazing stuff

00:15:18.580 and it's so simple

00:15:19.740 when you think about it.

00:15:21.220 This is so simple.

00:15:22.600 You have essentially

00:15:23.580 taught the world

00:15:25.080 exactly what they need

00:15:28.300 to do to liberate themselves.

00:15:29.340 I mean,

00:15:29.800 that's right.

00:15:30.600 But the problem lies

00:15:31.980 and of course,

00:15:32.620 we're going to have

00:15:33.020 to battle uphill

00:15:33.780 because we have

00:15:34.620 a compromised judiciary,

00:15:36.900 a corrupt judiciary.

00:15:37.780 You have to get

00:15:38.860 before a judge

00:15:39.500 that's actually

00:15:40.120 going to rule

00:15:41.060 impartially.

00:15:42.840 Yep.

00:15:43.480 But okay,

00:15:43.900 so take your tidbit

00:15:44.660 through the rest of this

00:15:45.320 because you've got

00:15:45.980 to finish your story.

00:15:46.720 I'm sorry.

00:15:47.600 Yeah,

00:15:47.920 so what happens now is

00:15:49.760 and in my closing remarks

00:15:51.720 I told the judge,

00:15:52.640 I said to your honour,

00:15:54.200 I said thank you very much

00:15:55.300 and I looked at

00:15:56.440 the Crown Prosecutor

00:15:57.240 and I said thank you very much

00:15:58.460 and to the Attorney Generals

00:16:00.080 that decided to come

00:16:01.400 in the room

00:16:01.820 for a $1,200 ticket

00:16:03.220 and I got Ottawa

00:16:04.060 listening now,

00:16:05.420 thank you to each

00:16:06.400 and every one of you

00:16:07.060 because you taught me

00:16:07.980 everything I need to know

00:16:09.440 to be the loudest,

00:16:11.380 proactive,

00:16:11.900 advocate for everybody

00:16:13.520 across Canada

00:16:14.440 let alone North America

00:16:15.920 and the world

00:16:16.960 because now we know

00:16:18.180 exactly what you guys

00:16:19.200 are doing to us.

00:16:20.280 We have it on record,

00:16:21.420 we have the proof

00:16:22.300 and you know what?

00:16:23.460 I get these transcripts

00:16:24.640 this afternoon,

00:16:25.340 I wish I would have had them

00:16:26.200 before you called me

00:16:26.860 this morning

00:16:27.200 because then I would have shown,

00:16:28.360 been able to provide it to you

00:16:29.420 and hopefully maybe

00:16:29.980 we can do a sequel to this

00:16:32.240 when I have it all

00:16:33.120 but in the transcripts

00:16:34.740 I state it

00:16:35.300 and I know they're shaking

00:16:36.340 in their boots.

00:16:37.600 So when I said

00:16:38.240 I'm going to start

00:16:39.020 teaching people

00:16:39.720 exactly what they need to do

00:16:40.920 because we were that close

00:16:41.980 they got me on a judicial

00:16:42.980 what's called

00:16:43.920 a jurisdictional challenge

00:16:45.760 which the judge advocated

00:16:48.040 for me to subpoena

00:16:49.880 Dina Hinshaw

00:16:50.840 because she has to

00:16:51.780 but what she didn't do

00:16:53.200 was tell me

00:16:53.700 the appropriate direction

00:16:54.780 to go to

00:16:55.200 so I used the justice

00:16:56.140 of the peace

00:16:56.780 who signed the subpoena

00:16:59.920 well it's a judge

00:17:01.460 who needs to sign

00:17:02.600 the subpoena

00:17:03.100 not a justice of the peace

00:17:04.320 so they got me

00:17:05.260 on the jurisdictional challenge

00:17:06.380 but they also violated

00:17:07.380 my rights in doing so

00:17:08.480 so now

00:17:09.320 there's a process

00:17:10.360 that we're going to go through

00:17:11.260 and hopefully

00:17:11.760 I can't divulge

00:17:13.020 too much more

00:17:13.720 but now what I can do is

00:17:15.420 with all these transcripts

00:17:17.000 to everybody else

00:17:17.820 and they made a point

00:17:18.700 in my court case

00:17:19.780 the Rook versus Alberta case

00:17:22.460 where they've summons

00:17:23.360 everybody

00:17:24.140 who had violated

00:17:25.940 any of these COVID rules

00:17:27.500 they're waiting

00:17:28.460 on the determination

00:17:29.200 of thousands

00:17:30.160 and thousands

00:17:30.980 of tickets

00:17:31.540 and summonses

00:17:33.520 and the results

00:17:34.420 of those will come

00:17:35.320 well what we did

00:17:36.140 was we laid the foundation

00:17:37.580 for everybody's court case now

00:17:39.040 so everybody's court case

00:17:40.600 will go exactly

00:17:41.380 the way I am

00:17:42.080 and what they need to do

00:17:43.440 and everybody needs to do

00:17:44.880 is you need to challenge

00:17:46.140 the Public Health Act

00:17:47.200 in your provinces

00:17:47.900 in your states

00:17:49.060 in your

00:17:50.320 wherever you are

00:17:51.680 you file

00:17:52.640 a challenge

00:17:54.640 against these health acts

00:17:55.940 and that way

00:17:56.820 the judge

00:17:57.340 has no

00:17:58.040 no recourse

00:17:59.660 she has to subpoena 0.73

00:18:01.100 the government officials

00:18:02.980 that are responsible

00:18:03.740 for this

00:18:04.240 it goes on

00:18:04.900 for another seven minutes

00:18:05.800 you can find

00:18:06.680 this video everywhere

00:18:08.000 except on YouTube

00:18:08.820 of course

00:18:09.320 because they banned it

00:18:11.360 I presume

00:18:12.140 because it questions

00:18:13.260 the existence

00:18:13.880 of the COVID virus

00:18:14.760 at all

00:18:15.240 which YouTube

00:18:16.240 censors

00:18:17.140 they don't allow you

00:18:17.880 to even talk

00:18:18.280 about that possibility

00:18:19.180 by the way

00:18:21.640 I believe the COVID virus

00:18:22.820 is a thing

00:18:23.440 I just have

00:18:24.080 questions about

00:18:25.540 what we should do

00:18:26.080 about it

00:18:26.660 but you can see

00:18:28.340 how exciting

00:18:28.780 this video is

00:18:29.680 how hopeful

00:18:30.700 it is

00:18:31.280 how persuasive

00:18:32.460 I mean

00:18:33.960 you just heard

00:18:34.520 Stu Peters

00:18:35.320 I know you've never

00:18:36.800 seen him before

00:18:38.240 I don't know

00:18:39.040 if he's ever been

00:18:39.580 to Canada

00:18:40.060 he didn't know

00:18:41.420 that the lockdowns

00:18:42.280 and mask mandates

00:18:42.980 had been lifted

00:18:43.700 in Alberta

00:18:44.160 more than a month

00:18:44.820 before he recorded

00:18:45.460 his video

00:18:45.900 but boy

00:18:46.920 did he know

00:18:47.700 what's what

00:18:48.340 this is going to

00:18:49.460 pull the whole racket

00:18:50.280 down

00:18:50.700 and Patrick King

00:18:52.940 was loving

00:18:53.400 every second

00:18:53.900 but he was

00:18:54.400 the guru

00:18:54.820 not even the guru

00:18:55.640 that implies

00:18:56.740 he was some

00:18:57.480 sophisticated

00:18:58.200 master strategist

00:19:00.900 it was more

00:19:01.600 he was David

00:19:02.440 slaying Goliath

00:19:03.720 it was more

00:19:04.120 the lopsidedness

00:19:05.040 that was the miracle

00:19:05.860 all the big lawyers

00:19:07.260 the fancy lawyers

00:19:07.980 failed

00:19:08.460 no one has managed

00:19:09.660 to stop the lockdowns

00:19:10.640 but he did

00:19:11.620 David and Goliath

00:19:12.920 you heard a bit there

00:19:14.140 that he was having

00:19:15.160 some procedural

00:19:15.840 troubles in court

00:19:16.580 but that didn't

00:19:17.180 seem to stop him

00:19:18.100 it was a very

00:19:19.680 high energy conversation

00:19:20.960 and he was really

00:19:21.820 both of them

00:19:22.540 were really running

00:19:23.080 with it

00:19:23.520 and he says

00:19:24.860 he's got the template

00:19:25.540 to save everything

00:19:26.780 so who on earth

00:19:29.360 could possibly

00:19:30.120 be against this

00:19:31.040 well I'm not

00:19:33.340 except that it's

00:19:35.740 not actually right

00:19:36.600 and that's why

00:19:37.400 I think perhaps

00:19:38.020 people are so mad

00:19:38.740 at me for mentioning

00:19:39.420 on my noon

00:19:40.020 live stream yesterday

00:19:41.260 that it just

00:19:42.820 didn't happen

00:19:44.000 the way they said

00:19:44.980 I'm sorry

00:19:46.060 I wish it did

00:19:46.820 I read the transcript

00:19:49.240 of Patrick King's

00:19:50.420 first appearance

00:19:51.060 in court

00:19:51.520 earlier this year

00:19:52.760 and I read

00:19:54.600 what he was charged

00:19:55.260 with an illegal

00:19:56.000 gathering

00:19:56.560 more than 10 people

00:19:58.520 and I read the testimony

00:19:59.480 of the two RCMP officers

00:20:00.980 who testified against him

00:20:02.660 and I read what the judge

00:20:03.460 had to say

00:20:04.060 and then Patrick King

00:20:06.300 who was defending himself

00:20:07.680 said he wanted to

00:20:08.400 call as a witness

00:20:09.740 excuse me

00:20:10.820 Dina Hinshaw

00:20:12.680 Alberta's public health

00:20:13.660 officer

00:20:14.040 but because he didn't

00:20:15.540 have a lawyer

00:20:16.620 and he didn't

00:20:17.780 know he was going

00:20:19.260 to call

00:20:19.720 Dina Hinshaw

00:20:20.580 the public health officer

00:20:21.480 and he didn't know

00:20:22.540 how to do it

00:20:23.440 so the judge

00:20:25.080 sort of paused

00:20:25.720 the trial

00:20:26.180 and said well

00:20:26.760 if you want to

00:20:28.180 call a witness

00:20:28.720 you go and

00:20:29.620 you subpoena a witness

00:20:30.540 and so we'll take

00:20:31.620 a break

00:20:31.940 so you can do that

00:20:32.920 and then we'll

00:20:33.220 come back

00:20:33.840 the judge was sort

00:20:35.560 of helping him

00:20:36.460 out a bit

00:20:36.940 not being his lawyer

00:20:38.020 but sort of telling him

00:20:38.940 what he should do

00:20:40.400 if he wanted to run

00:20:41.240 the trial himself

00:20:42.020 so he did that

00:20:44.420 but because he didn't

00:20:45.280 really know

00:20:45.760 what he was doing

00:20:46.500 he got a justice

00:20:47.780 of the peace

00:20:48.380 to issue the subpoena

00:20:50.020 not a proper

00:20:50.860 court justice

00:20:53.200 as required

00:20:53.880 under the law

00:20:54.460 so the government

00:20:55.980 had that subpoena

00:20:57.120 thrown out

00:20:57.760 and as you saw

00:20:58.780 on Stu Peter's show

00:20:59.680 one of the things

00:21:00.320 the government said

00:21:01.120 besides that the subpoena

00:21:02.880 wasn't issued

00:21:03.740 properly by the right judge

00:21:05.420 is that Dina Hinshaw

00:21:07.200 had nothing to say

00:21:08.020 about his arrest

00:21:08.620 or his ticket

00:21:09.340 she had no material

00:21:10.820 information

00:21:11.520 now material

00:21:13.640 is a legal term

00:21:14.520 that means relevant

00:21:15.660 literally it means

00:21:16.800 having to do

00:21:17.400 with the matter

00:21:18.080 at hand

00:21:18.740 material matter

00:21:20.220 what's the matter

00:21:21.040 at hand

00:21:21.540 do you have any

00:21:22.220 material evidence

00:21:23.200 don't talk about

00:21:23.860 this or that

00:21:24.400 talk about the matter

00:21:25.420 at hand

00:21:25.720 that's what material

00:21:26.440 means

00:21:26.960 so the public health

00:21:29.640 officer in Edmonton

00:21:30.620 who's never heard

00:21:31.300 of this guy before

00:21:32.060 who was not there

00:21:32.860 in Red Deer that day

00:21:33.760 didn't want to come down

00:21:35.520 from Edmonton

00:21:36.080 to Red Deer

00:21:36.480 to testify the trial

00:21:37.480 of a guy who was

00:21:38.040 being fined

00:21:38.500 $1200 for being

00:21:39.340 in an anti-lockdown

00:21:40.180 gathering

00:21:40.540 she had no

00:21:41.260 material evidence

00:21:41.960 to give

00:21:42.360 she said the subpoena

00:21:44.980 wasn't done right

00:21:45.760 and that she has

00:21:46.340 nothing to say

00:21:46.880 she had no evidence

00:21:47.740 about what happened

00:21:48.580 that day in Red Deer

00:21:49.900 that's what material

00:21:50.600 evidence means

00:21:51.200 but Patrick King

00:21:53.120 and Stu Peters

00:21:54.100 thought that that

00:21:55.080 meant she was

00:21:55.800 admitting

00:21:56.260 that COVID-19

00:21:58.040 doesn't even exist

00:21:59.480 and she has no

00:22:00.800 evidence that it does

00:22:01.860 that's the

00:22:02.500 no material evidence

00:22:03.700 they thought that

00:22:04.780 meant

00:22:05.120 it's not what

00:22:05.960 that was about

00:22:06.600 it's just

00:22:08.200 not what she said

00:22:09.120 it's not what she

00:22:10.180 meant

00:22:10.360 and Patrick King

00:22:11.200 who made a number

00:22:11.920 of legal errors

00:22:12.780 and that's not his fault

00:22:14.700 since he's not a lawyer

00:22:15.780 he made another legal error

00:22:17.740 misunderstanding

00:22:18.480 what the word material

00:22:20.200 means in a legal setting

00:22:22.420 in the end here

00:22:23.980 he said

00:22:24.500 the answer is to challenge

00:22:26.180 the public health laws

00:22:27.560 in every province

00:22:28.540 I think that's true

00:22:30.100 but he's not doing that

00:22:32.260 the judge specifically

00:22:34.080 told him that

00:22:34.820 if you're going to

00:22:35.740 challenge the law itself

00:22:36.980 by challenging

00:22:37.620 its constitutionality

00:22:39.000 by saying that law

00:22:40.820 even though it was passed

00:22:42.520 it's improper

00:22:44.120 it's invalid

00:22:44.860 if you're saying

00:22:45.620 for example

00:22:46.280 it's not a reasonable

00:22:48.600 limit on free speech

00:22:49.500 or freedom of assembly

00:22:50.360 or there's no justification

00:22:51.840 for it

00:22:52.620 because of the nature

00:22:53.300 of the virus

00:22:53.880 and I think

00:22:54.940 those are his arguments

00:22:56.080 the judge pointed out

00:22:58.120 to him

00:22:58.440 that in Canadian courts

00:22:59.540 there's a rule

00:23:00.680 that you have to give

00:23:01.940 the government

00:23:02.500 advance notice

00:23:03.900 that you're challenging

00:23:05.320 the constitutionality

00:23:06.600 of a law

00:23:07.020 you can't just come up

00:23:08.400 with that plan

00:23:09.420 on the spot

00:23:10.120 you have to give

00:23:10.860 the government

00:23:11.300 some notice

00:23:11.960 so Patrick King

00:23:13.340 didn't do that

00:23:14.100 because he didn't

00:23:14.680 know he had to do that

00:23:15.740 now the good news

00:23:17.600 is that other lawyers

00:23:19.560 are challenging

00:23:20.640 the constitutionality

00:23:21.800 of various lockdown laws

00:23:23.140 Sarah Miller

00:23:24.460 one of our

00:23:25.020 Fight the Fines lawyers

00:23:25.780 is in court

00:23:26.660 before the Federal

00:23:27.380 Court of Appeal

00:23:28.040 fighting against

00:23:29.000 the quarantine laws

00:23:30.020 and she remembered

00:23:31.900 to serve notice

00:23:33.080 to the government

00:23:33.560 that she's challenging

00:23:34.240 the constitutionality

00:23:35.100 of the law

00:23:35.440 she remembered

00:23:36.120 because she's a lawyer 1.00

00:23:36.880 she's also fighting 0.51

00:23:38.780 for Arthur Pawlowski

00:23:39.700 and she raised

00:23:41.540 charter issues there too

00:23:43.060 and she remembered

00:23:43.680 to serve notice

00:23:44.860 and Chad Williamson

00:23:45.780 another one of our lawyers

00:23:46.680 in Calgary

00:23:47.300 is doing the same

00:23:48.220 for other clients

00:23:49.380 including Chris Scott

00:23:50.520 of the Whistle Stop

00:23:51.440 Diner in Mirror, Alberta

00:23:53.140 and they all remembered

00:23:54.580 to serve their

00:23:56.320 constitutional notice

00:23:57.060 and they know

00:23:57.580 a subpoena

00:23:58.300 has to be issued

00:23:59.180 so I agree

00:24:00.260 it is important

00:24:00.920 to challenge

00:24:01.340 the underlying rationale

00:24:02.700 for these laws

00:24:03.520 that infringe

00:24:03.960 on our rights

00:24:04.480 Patrick King

00:24:05.580 didn't know

00:24:07.360 that he had to

00:24:08.180 do it in a certain way

00:24:09.680 because he's not a lawyer

00:24:10.420 he didn't know

00:24:11.480 how to subpoena

00:24:12.140 the health officer

00:24:12.860 because he's not a lawyer

00:24:14.000 I'm not making fun of him

00:24:15.360 those are expert things

00:24:17.460 just like medical doctors

00:24:19.440 know expert things

00:24:20.520 about medicine

00:24:21.120 or engineers

00:24:21.920 or accountants

00:24:23.040 they all know

00:24:23.540 expert things

00:24:24.180 if you're not

00:24:24.620 if you're a layman

00:24:26.220 it's not embarrassing

00:24:27.520 that you don't know

00:24:28.400 expert things

00:24:29.180 it doesn't even

00:24:30.280 have to be a profession

00:24:31.080 how about skilled trades

00:24:33.100 welding

00:24:34.460 carpentry

00:24:35.300 those aren't professions

00:24:36.400 but skilled trades

00:24:37.280 and the tickets to practice

00:24:38.720 that's a special knowledge too

00:24:40.500 and it's not embarrassing

00:24:42.080 if you don't know

00:24:42.800 how to do it

00:24:43.600 because you're not a welder

00:24:45.040 just don't pretend

00:24:46.400 you're an expert welder then

00:24:48.260 but what we have here

00:24:50.320 in this viral video

00:24:51.560 that a hundred people

00:24:53.060 have sent me

00:24:53.780 is that two guys

00:24:56.400 neither of whom

00:24:58.080 are experts

00:24:58.980 neither of whom

00:24:59.520 are lawyers

00:24:59.880 one of whom

00:25:00.400 doesn't sound like

00:25:01.420 he even knows

00:25:01.840 much about Canada

00:25:02.500 they're saying

00:25:03.480 that Patrick King's

00:25:04.620 homemade lawyering

00:25:05.900 actually not only won

00:25:08.080 but freed the whole province

00:25:10.220 and will free the rest

00:25:12.120 of the country

00:25:12.780 and will prove

00:25:14.700 that this whole thing

00:25:15.440 is a hoax

00:25:15.880 if only you do

00:25:17.220 what he says

00:25:17.920 that's not true

00:25:20.240 and that's not what happened

00:25:21.360 now why do I care

00:25:24.040 I could spend

00:25:25.980 my entire life

00:25:26.740 trying to correct things

00:25:27.680 on the internet

00:25:28.180 that are wrong

00:25:29.140 it's infinite

00:25:30.580 I suppose just believing

00:25:32.320 in the truth

00:25:32.860 is some reason

00:25:33.920 but like I say

00:25:34.840 you will never have time

00:25:36.600 to do anything else

00:25:37.460 in your life

00:25:37.920 if you just try

00:25:38.620 and correct errors

00:25:39.200 on the internet

00:25:39.660 the reason I care

00:25:41.720 is because a hundred rebels

00:25:42.880 have asked me

00:25:43.640 and because we know

00:25:45.780 something about this issue

00:25:46.980 it's been our central

00:25:48.080 fight for the last year

00:25:49.760 and a half

00:25:50.280 and we don't want

00:25:52.420 our people

00:25:53.220 to be misled

00:25:55.020 by a self-styled guru

00:25:56.340 who actually

00:25:57.020 has no idea

00:25:58.420 at all

00:25:59.180 what he's doing

00:25:59.920 and if someone

00:26:00.940 were to actually

00:26:01.560 really rely on his ideas

00:26:02.680 they could lose

00:26:03.300 and lose badly

00:26:04.100 at great cost

00:26:05.480 to themselves

00:26:05.940 why would people

00:26:07.780 believe him

00:26:08.320 because they have

00:26:08.980 lost all faith

00:26:09.760 in the establishment

00:26:10.500 in the government

00:26:11.160 in the courts

00:26:12.320 and judges

00:26:12.880 and lawyers

00:26:13.460 and the law itself

00:26:14.700 at the very beginning

00:26:16.560 of his trial

00:26:18.100 in the first part

00:26:18.780 Patrick King

00:26:19.400 you can see here

00:26:20.500 he tries that weird

00:26:21.600 free man of the land

00:26:23.040 your laws don't apply

00:26:25.140 to me thing

00:26:25.840 where he suggests

00:26:26.560 that the court

00:26:27.020 isn't even a proper court

00:26:28.240 isn't even real

00:26:29.400 and the judge

00:26:30.400 throws that out

00:26:31.240 in about five seconds

00:26:32.800 she's heard that before

00:26:34.220 look people are desperate

00:26:35.920 the law isn't working

00:26:37.200 for so many people anymore

00:26:38.960 so that people

00:26:39.700 make up their own law

00:26:40.800 except that won't work either

00:26:42.660 and it's not working here

00:26:43.840 and it didn't work here

00:26:44.920 I have no beef

00:26:46.260 with a guy

00:26:47.200 fighting like hell

00:26:48.240 I don't know much

00:26:49.580 about Patrick King

00:26:50.380 I know he

00:26:51.100 you know

00:26:52.000 he's squabbled

00:26:52.740 with Antifa before

00:26:53.820 I don't like Antifa

00:26:54.680 one bit

00:26:55.080 he organized

00:26:55.820 an anti-Antifa rally

00:26:57.880 in Red Deer

00:26:59.080 there was a scuffle there

00:26:59.920 I don't think

00:27:00.300 he was involved

00:27:00.820 in the scuffle himself

00:27:01.620 I know he was on

00:27:03.560 the United We Roll

00:27:04.320 convoy for a bit

00:27:05.600 he's obviously

00:27:06.900 a lockdown skeptic

00:27:08.180 alright

00:27:08.680 for those reasons

00:27:10.380 some people

00:27:10.960 are telling me

00:27:11.480 to stop criticizing

00:27:12.600 what he said

00:27:13.360 Canadians are worried

00:27:22.400 about a fourth wave

00:27:23.280 of COVID-19

00:27:24.100 the dangerous

00:27:25.120 Delta variant

00:27:25.880 is here

00:27:26.460 and we have to be ready

00:27:27.820 now is not the time

00:27:29.600 for an election

00:27:30.120 we can all wait

00:27:31.160 and go to the polls

00:27:32.220 when it's safe

00:27:33.240 we need to focus

00:27:34.640 on health

00:27:35.720 and well-being

00:27:36.440 securing our economic future

00:27:38.220 and fighting

00:27:39.000 COVID-19 together

00:27:40.100 my wife and I

00:27:40.840 had COVID

00:27:41.380 like many families

00:27:42.700 we want to get past

00:27:44.000 this pandemic

00:27:44.580 but let's pull together

00:27:46.120 for one more fight

00:27:47.160 let's beat COVID-19

00:27:48.820 and have an election

00:27:50.040 when it's safe

00:27:50.920 a shocking new ad

00:27:57.740 by the conservative

00:27:58.960 party leader

00:27:59.640 Aaron O'Toole

00:28:00.220 I call it shocking

00:28:01.540 because I think

00:28:03.300 if that was

00:28:04.080 Justin Trudeau

00:28:05.280 saying every one

00:28:06.840 of those words

00:28:07.620 and saying

00:28:08.240 well I don't want

00:28:09.300 to have the election

00:28:10.040 and here's all my

00:28:11.060 reasons

00:28:11.480 I think it would be

00:28:13.500 exactly Trudeau's

00:28:14.620 message too

00:28:15.460 live in fear

00:28:17.000 be afraid

00:28:17.860 be terrified

00:28:18.540 we're not ready

00:28:19.340 for none of this

00:28:19.940 voting stuff

00:28:20.740 and let's not

00:28:22.600 have an election

00:28:23.280 things are just

00:28:23.960 fine the way they are

00:28:24.860 I think that it is

00:28:26.500 I think it's a disaster

00:28:29.160 in terms of ideology

00:28:30.420 and tone

00:28:31.640 and the message

00:28:32.480 but I'm not the only one

00:28:34.420 who thinks this way

00:28:35.340 a much more rational

00:28:37.200 and reasonable man

00:28:38.020 than me

00:28:38.540 in fact brought this

00:28:39.680 to my attention

00:28:40.440 it's our friend

00:28:41.680 Andrew Lawton

00:28:42.480 of TNC.news

00:28:44.140 and you can find him

00:28:45.020 every time

00:28:46.400 at andrewlawtonshow.com

00:28:47.980 Andrew

00:28:48.340 I'm a critic

00:28:50.740 of Aaron O'Toole

00:28:51.940 and so I think

00:28:52.620 sometimes my viewers

00:28:53.440 say oh Ezra

00:28:54.280 you're just mad

00:28:54.920 at Aaron O'Toole

00:28:55.520 again

00:28:55.800 but you had a

00:28:57.060 very illuminating

00:28:58.580 thread of comments

00:28:59.680 on Twitter

00:29:00.200 about this

00:29:01.100 why don't you

00:29:01.680 give me your take

00:29:02.800 on that new

00:29:03.980 Aaron O'Toole ad

00:29:05.080 yeah there are

00:29:07.060 a couple of

00:29:07.760 big problems

00:29:08.780 I have with this

00:29:09.700 number one

00:29:10.460 is that I've

00:29:11.180 broken down

00:29:12.000 what's behind this

00:29:13.600 into two main

00:29:14.800 theses if you will

00:29:16.060 one is that

00:29:16.780 the conservatives

00:29:17.420 are true believers

00:29:19.240 in this COVID

00:29:20.140 alarmism

00:29:20.780 they genuinely

00:29:21.520 believe that

00:29:22.360 this so-called

00:29:23.360 fourth wave

00:29:24.060 is an existential

00:29:24.740 thread and you

00:29:25.600 can't have an

00:29:26.080 election in a

00:29:27.180 fourth wave

00:29:27.660 the other alternative

00:29:28.620 theory is that

00:29:29.600 they are

00:29:30.240 politicking

00:29:31.300 they are pretty

00:29:32.240 convinced Justin

00:29:33.060 Trudeau is going

00:29:33.620 to do an election

00:29:34.280 anyway so they

00:29:35.480 just want to put

00:29:36.340 another tool in

00:29:37.180 their toolbox to

00:29:38.360 be able to say

00:29:39.100 when that time

00:29:39.800 comes that oh

00:29:40.500 they're being

00:29:40.960 irresponsible we

00:29:42.260 didn't want the

00:29:42.860 election we

00:29:43.840 didn't ask for

00:29:44.540 it that was all

00:29:45.360 them either one

00:29:47.360 of those is bad

00:29:48.780 news for

00:29:49.480 conservative

00:29:50.040 Canadians and

00:29:50.880 there are two

00:29:51.420 big reasons for

00:29:52.220 this because it's

00:29:53.300 been people on

00:29:54.180 the right by and

00:29:55.060 large small c

00:29:56.020 conservatives that

00:29:57.240 have been the

00:29:57.660 most fed up with

00:29:58.620 lockdowns the one

00:29:59.660 of the ones that

00:30:00.520 have been the most

00:30:01.020 eager to get back

00:30:01.940 to normal

00:30:02.460 Alberta for

00:30:03.640 example is a

00:30:04.440 province that has

00:30:05.120 quite relished its

00:30:06.680 status as being

00:30:07.560 mask-free virtually

00:30:08.740 restriction-free right

00:30:10.000 now and for

00:30:11.220 Aaron O'Toole to

00:30:11.900 say oh no it's so

00:30:12.620 dangerous we can't

00:30:13.540 even vote we have

00:30:14.520 to have an election

00:30:15.160 when it's safe he's

00:30:16.660 at odds with where a

00:30:17.680 lot of his base is as

00:30:19.240 far as the pandemic

00:30:20.180 and the risk the

00:30:21.520 other side of this

00:30:22.460 though is that for

00:30:23.620 the last two years

00:30:24.840 the conservatives have

00:30:25.860 been saying that the

00:30:26.680 liberals are corrupt

00:30:27.620 they spend too much

00:30:28.880 money they've

00:30:30.120 mishandled the

00:30:30.780 pandemic they

00:30:31.420 didn't prepare they

00:30:32.300 aren't prepared for

00:30:32.980 the next one whereas

00:30:34.180 what O'Toole's now

00:30:35.100 saying is if we are in

00:30:36.780 this existential threat

00:30:37.840 Trudeau's the guy to

00:30:39.060 bring us through it

00:30:39.900 that that's what he's

00:30:40.840 saying things are so

00:30:41.660 bad right now Trudeau's

00:30:43.200 got to be the one to

00:30:44.160 look after it so I have

00:30:45.560 no idea how on earth

00:30:46.860 this messaging helps

00:30:48.440 the conservatives or

00:30:49.420 team O'Toole yeah even

00:30:51.000 if they are terrified of

00:30:52.460 an election and think

00:30:53.440 they're going to get

00:30:53.980 smoked and a lot of

00:30:55.400 the latest polls show

00:30:56.260 it I know that abacus

00:30:57.460 polls are chaired by a

00:30:59.720 liberal activist named

00:31:00.620 Bruce Anderson so I

00:31:01.540 take them with a bit of

00:31:02.260 a grain of salt but I

00:31:04.240 tell you it's the lowest

00:31:04.920 poll numbers I've seen

00:31:05.920 yet I think O'Toole's at

00:31:06.940 25 percent just ahead of

00:31:09.540 the NDP but even if

00:31:11.460 those polls are real to

00:31:13.440 show this level of fear

00:31:15.540 of an election like

00:31:16.720 they're called a

00:31:17.440 government in waiting

00:31:18.460 they're called shadow

00:31:19.740 ministers they're supposed 0.57

00:31:21.220 to be critics they're

00:31:22.220 supposed to oppose he

00:31:23.800 didn't really criticize

00:31:24.800 anything he didn't really

00:31:26.100 oppose anything he just

00:31:27.540 doesn't want an election

00:31:28.620 and by implication he's

00:31:30.580 saying well everything

00:31:31.300 Trudeau is doing now is

00:31:33.380 better than if we had an

00:31:34.840 election to change it

00:31:35.860 but you're right some of

00:31:37.180 the words he used I just

00:31:38.180 jotted them down Canadians 0.73

00:31:39.880 are worried it's a

00:31:41.940 dangerous of a variant

00:31:44.820 when it's safe we can

00:31:47.060 come out we're going to

00:31:48.700 fight this together just

00:31:49.660 one more fight folks just

00:31:51.120 one more and he said

00:31:54.120 when it's safe I think

00:31:55.020 twice in there that's

00:31:58.160 exactly the language of

00:31:59.840 the public health deep

00:32:00.980 state and I'm left

00:32:01.960 scratching my head Andrew

00:32:03.020 and thinking again is

00:32:04.900 there any difference

00:32:06.300 between O'Toole and

00:32:07.320 Trudeau on carbon taxes

00:32:09.640 open borders immigration

00:32:11.220 O'Toole hasn't said a

00:32:13.300 word about the latest

00:32:14.160 censorship proposals and

00:32:16.400 here we are now he's

00:32:17.960 using the same rhetoric as

00:32:19.420 Trudeau on the pandemic I'm

00:32:21.840 just very disappointed

00:32:23.220 well we had just this week

00:32:26.040 Dina Hinshaw the chief

00:32:27.500 public health advisor in

00:32:28.920 Alberta come out and say

00:32:30.020 the priority needs to be

00:32:31.560 learning to live with

00:32:32.420 COVID and this is what I

00:32:34.060 think most of the

00:32:34.800 optimistic people have been

00:32:36.140 saying yeah it's always

00:32:37.100 going to be around in some

00:32:38.260 way we work around it we

00:32:39.600 protect the vulnerable but

00:32:41.320 we get back to normal

00:32:42.720 otherwise we are in this

00:32:44.040 perpetual permanent years

00:32:45.720 long lockdown so living with

00:32:48.120 that means having elections it

00:32:49.720 doesn't mean suspending

00:32:50.780 democracy because of a

00:32:52.920 mythical fourth wave fifth

00:32:54.380 wave sixth wave the 75th

00:32:56.100 wave that'll be coming just

00:32:57.180 around the corner now when

00:32:58.420 he says have an election

00:32:59.640 when it's safe when's he

00:33:01.680 talking about how long do

00:33:03.900 elections does the

00:33:05.200 democratic right of a voter

00:33:07.120 to elect a government how

00:33:08.480 long does that get

00:33:09.740 suspended because of COVID is

00:33:12.000 it for two years for three

00:33:13.320 years what happens if it's

00:33:15.080 so quote-unquote dangerous

00:33:16.820 dangerous until the end of

00:33:18.800 when Justin Trudeau's term

00:33:20.800 technically expires and this

00:33:22.980 is why it's so ridiculous

00:33:24.180 we've had in Canada in

00:33:26.020 various provinces and

00:33:27.100 outside of Canada numerous

00:33:28.860 elections that have been

00:33:29.940 held without issue when at

00:33:32.220 times when case counts

00:33:33.680 hospitalizations and death

00:33:35.120 counts were a lot higher

00:33:36.180 than they are now so to say

00:33:38.020 that it's too dangerous and

00:33:39.560 I should qualify this Ezra I've

00:33:41.600 had a few of Aaron O'Toole's

00:33:42.960 defenders come at me since I

00:33:44.760 posted that Twitter thread

00:33:46.180 saying oh well it's just

00:33:47.060 strategy he's just trying to

00:33:48.480 do this thing so that he can

00:33:50.140 call Trudeau irresponsible

00:33:51.400 I'm not interested in

00:33:53.400 politicking on this my

00:33:55.240 interest right now is in

00:33:56.880 getting back to normal and

00:33:58.220 living my life and the

00:33:59.860 problem I have is that for

00:34:01.200 the last 18 months it's been

00:34:03.300 alarmist and fear mongers in

00:34:05.220 politicians and in in

00:34:07.220 political class and in the

00:34:08.700 media that have been getting

00:34:09.640 in the way of that

00:34:10.380 happening so I do not give

00:34:12.260 any politician that stokes

00:34:14.100 more of this fear the benefit

00:34:15.920 of the doubt because this

00:34:17.080 idea that it's too scary to

00:34:18.540 have an election right now is

00:34:20.220 exactly the attitude that's

00:34:21.740 keeping people like me in

00:34:22.900 Ontario like you in Ontario

00:34:24.700 under restrictions long after

00:34:27.220 they are necessary if they ever

00:34:28.680 were yeah you know by the way I

00:34:32.140 just show this early in the

00:34:33.960 show if you look at Teresa

00:34:36.480 Tam's official map of Canada and

00:34:39.440 if you select it to show you the

00:34:41.020 count of deaths in the last seven

00:34:44.360 days in the entire country 38

00:34:47.960 million souls only about 60

00:34:50.500 people have passed away in the

00:34:51.700 last week that's less than 10 a

00:34:54.040 day on average in half a dozen

00:34:56.240 provinces and territories there

00:34:58.340 hasn't been a single death in at

00:35:00.160 least a week and I'm not saying

00:35:02.200 that 60 deaths are nothing but I'm

00:35:03.960 saying it is not grounds to stop a

00:35:07.840 national election listen if grocery

00:35:10.120 workers and gas station workers and

00:35:13.040 if delivery boys and girls can work

00:35:15.940 through this surely some politicians

00:35:18.380 can have an election I just the the

00:35:22.000 excuse ology here does not sound very

00:35:24.600 conservative and let me quote the

00:35:27.380 public health deep state again when we

00:35:28.800 got started they just said 15 days to

00:35:31.660 flatten the curve they didn't say zero

00:35:34.100 kovat they said just get it under

00:35:36.060 control so we don't swamp our

00:35:37.500 hospitals mission accomplished they

00:35:40.080 never said we're gonna lock down till

00:35:42.060 the case count is zero they just said

00:35:44.220 let's make sure that we don't

00:35:45.640 overwhelm our hospitals well that has

00:35:47.020 never happened in Canada and it's

00:35:48.700 sure not happening now I don't know I

00:35:50.420 just I just every week my

00:35:53.240 expectations which are already low are

00:35:56.100 not low enough and I have to start

00:35:57.480 digging a new basement level for this

00:36:00.240 conservative party how do you think

00:36:01.800 they're gonna do I think Trudeau is

00:36:03.300 gonna call the election I think he's

00:36:05.600 gonna win I think he's gonna get a

00:36:06.920 majority and I think O'Toole is gonna

00:36:08.980 lose probably 20 seats well I don't

00:36:11.680 think when I to go back to my theories

00:36:13.620 that I laid out at the beginning of our

00:36:15.100 chat Ezra I don't think the

00:36:16.700 conservatives are true believers I

00:36:18.260 don't think they believe this stuff I

00:36:19.780 think this is a calculation on their

00:36:22.180 part which does not excuse it at all

00:36:23.980 and the only reason they'd be doing it

00:36:26.060 is to either want to just be able to

00:36:28.540 accuse Justin Trudeau of being

00:36:29.900 reckless or because they know that an

00:36:32.260 election now is game over for them

00:36:34.600 that that is I think if you look at the

00:36:36.560 polls something that very realistically

00:36:38.620 could be driving a lot of this fear

00:36:40.480 we know it's why the NDP has been

00:36:42.560 saying it doesn't want an election

00:36:43.920 their financial situation as a party is

00:36:46.080 not good they can't afford an election

00:36:48.640 right now the conservatives simply

00:36:50.740 aren't ready the polls are not in their

00:36:52.960 favor they're still scrambling to get

00:36:55.020 candidates nominated but I will say the

00:36:58.000 conservatives like every other party are

00:37:00.680 sending their candidates out knocking on

00:37:02.720 doors they're having some events where

00:37:04.440 laws permit it they are campaigning so

00:37:07.580 this idea that it's unsafe to be

00:37:09.260 campaigning hasn't seemed to trickle down

00:37:11.140 to the actual people doing the

00:37:12.720 campaigning yeah you know yesterday Ron

00:37:16.560 DeSantis the governor of Florida

00:37:18.720 pushed back at Joe Biden because of the

00:37:21.980 federal lever in the United States they're

00:37:23.820 talking about mask mandates they're

00:37:25.560 talking about you know the Biden is

00:37:28.920 criticizing Florida really picking on

00:37:31.440 that state I can understand why I think

00:37:33.680 DeSantis is the front runner other than

00:37:36.500 Trump perhaps to be the presidential

00:37:39.340 candidate in 2024 but can I show you this

00:37:42.100 and I don't know if you've seen this it's

00:37:43.540 about five full minutes long it's DeSantis

00:37:47.260 standing up and naturally and without

00:37:51.040 sounding extreme just saying we're not

00:37:53.680 going back into lockdowns we're just not

00:37:55.620 doing it we're not locking down

00:37:57.420 businesses we're not losing jobs we're

00:37:59.560 not living in fear but most importantly

00:38:01.820 and he's so good at this part he's not

00:38:04.700 saying he's saying I will stop you Joe

00:38:07.100 Biden but he's saying it's the parents

00:38:09.380 who get to decide all these things

00:38:10.900 individuals can decide on vaccines

00:38:12.780 parents can decide on masks for kids so

00:38:15.840 he's not saying my way or your way he's

00:38:18.600 saying Biden and government versus

00:38:21.360 families I thought this was not only so

00:38:24.600 effective for DeSantis I thought this was

00:38:27.440 an absolute template for a conservative

00:38:30.960 in any country the United States Canada

00:38:34.380 Australia the United Kingdom anywhere to

00:38:38.240 push back against government extremism in

00:38:41.540 these lockdowns without sounding like a

00:38:43.340 kook or an extremist here have you seen

00:38:46.120 this let me just play just bear with me

00:38:48.420 and during play about five minutes let me know

00:38:50.860 what you think of this

00:38:51.820 well thanks we're excited to be here and

00:38:58.400 I just want to say something quickly

00:39:02.740 you know Joe Biden has taken to himself

00:39:06.420 to try to single out Florida

00:39:08.240 over COVID this is a guy who ran for

00:39:11.780 president saying he was going to quote

00:39:13.320 shut down the virus and what has he done

00:39:16.240 he's imported more virus from around the

00:39:18.880 world by having a wide open southern border

00:39:21.080 you have hundreds of thousands of people

00:39:23.640 pouring across every month and it's not just

00:39:26.660 from Mexico in fact it's rarely from Mexico

00:39:29.000 you have over a hundred different countries

00:39:31.440 where people are pouring through not only are they letting them through

00:39:35.180 they're then farming them out all across our communities across this country

00:39:39.660 putting them on planes putting them on buses

00:39:42.080 do you think they're being worried about COVID for that of course not so he's

00:39:46.960 facilitating who knows what new variants are out there but I can tell you

00:39:50.880 whatever variants are around the world they're coming across that southern border

00:39:54.460 and so he's not shutting down the virus he's helping to facilitate it in our

00:39:58.860 country and what is his big solution what is he so upset about Florida

00:40:03.120 his solution is he wants to have the government force kindergarteners to wear masks in school

00:40:11.220 he doesn't believe the parents should have a say in that he thinks that should be a decision

00:40:15.800 for the government well I can tell you in Florida the parents are going to be the ones in charge

00:40:20.260 of that decision

00:40:21.060 and one of the major medical people in his administration just recently told parents

00:40:34.300 that they should be wearing masks at home when they're around their own children

00:40:39.340 this is insane Joe Biden also believes that vaccination should be mandated by force of government

00:40:48.400 and that you should have to show vaccination status to be able to participate in society

00:40:53.560 now Florida we're very proud of our seniors first strategy

00:40:57.040 you look at the mortality in nursing homes among seniors it's declined dramatically

00:41:01.560 but we said from the beginning we're going to make it available for all

00:41:05.300 but we're not going to mandate it on anybody

00:41:07.420 that's ultimately an individual's choice to be able to do it

00:41:10.320 Biden he rejects science because he denies the fact that people that recover from COVID

00:41:17.600 have long-lasting immunity and that's been proven time and time again and the data is very clear

00:41:23.600 so his vision is just like in New York City restaurants should ban young kids from being able to go in

00:41:31.760 because they're not eligible for vaccination and law-abiding citizens have to produce proof

00:41:36.700 of their medical records just to go to the gym or attend an event or just to participate in everyday society

00:41:44.800 he wants that but yet if you want to vote he thinks it's too much of a burden to show a picture ID when you're voting

00:41:52.520 so no voter ID but have to show your medical papers just to be able to live in everyday life

00:41:58.160 give me a break and so I think the question is is we can either have a free society

00:42:03.740 or we can have a biomedical security state and I can tell you Florida we're a free state

00:42:10.160 people are going to be free to choose to make their own decisions about themselves about their families

00:42:15.340 about their kids education and about putting food on the table

00:42:19.220 and Joe Biden suggests that if you don't do lockdown policies then you should quote get out of the way

00:42:27.120 but let me tell you this if you're coming after the rights of parents in Florida

00:42:31.440 I'm standing in your way I'm not going to let you get away with it

00:42:34.620 if you're trying to deny kids a proper in-person education I'm going to stand in your way

00:42:45.340 and I'm going to stand up for the kids in Florida if you're trying to restrict people

00:42:48.880 impose mandates if you're trying to ruin their jobs and their livelihoods and their small business

00:42:54.080 if you are trying to lock people down I am standing in your way and I'm standing for the people of Florida

00:43:00.980 so why don't you do your job why don't you get this border secure and until you do that

00:43:07.880 I don't want to hear a blip about COVID from you thank you

00:43:12.180 Andrew I know that Ron DeSantis has several tools at his disposal that Aaron O'Toole doesn't

00:43:20.040 he is the governor he can make decisions he can block Joe Biden in a way that Aaron O'Toole couldn't do

00:43:27.380 but the language the confidence pushing back talking about individual decisions

00:43:32.460 either for vaccines or for parents and masks saying hey how come you're not closing the southern border

00:43:39.760 I can imagine O'Toole saying hey how come you haven't closed Roxham Road

00:43:43.540 how come you haven't stopped flights from China

00:43:45.880 like just the fact that he's not absolutely repeating back the message track of the lockdown is

00:43:53.200 I find that inspiring and hopeful and makes me think right on there's a guy who might actually win

00:43:59.440 at least maybe one day a conservative in Canada could give that kind of messaging a try

00:44:05.340 yeah it's not about having the legal authority it's about just being a leader it's about leadership

00:44:13.360 and it's about rhetoric at this point and the problem in Canada is that over the course of the

00:44:17.740 pandemic we've essentially been a liberal uniparty the official opposition has been very muted

00:44:24.280 the NDP the Bloc Québécois have been in lockstep with the liberals the conservatives have not wanted to push

00:44:30.860 too far because they don't want to be accused of seeking an election and as we've been talking about

00:44:36.000 going the other way so there is a huge opening for someone in Canadian politics to stand up

00:44:41.820 and start countering a lot of the fear-mongering and make it about choice I was actually in Florida

00:44:47.660 within the last couple of weeks and it was interesting because there's no mask mandate

00:44:51.680 a lot of people wear masks now I wasn't one of them because I'm of the mind that we had waves two

00:44:57.820 three and supposedly four in Canada well masks were required so I don't think they're doing what

00:45:03.480 all of the officials are saying they're supposed to do but you know what people in Florida were making

00:45:08.220 their own decisions people were respecting each other's space when that was warranted and if they

00:45:13.340 wanted to go and have fun at the beach or at the pool or go to a restaurant they could do that

00:45:18.040 and people could make decisions for themselves families could make decisions for themselves

00:45:23.580 what DeSantis is saying here is not about left and right it's about government versus the people

00:45:28.880 and the chasm between those two groups interest has been getting wider and wider for the last year

00:45:34.240 and a half yeah well I tell you I hope that someone becomes the anti-lockdown voice in Canada

00:45:40.340 Jason Kenney was the harshest lockdowner for about six or nine months there I think that really

00:45:47.060 antagonized his base his rural base Christian Albertans who were shocked by the arrest of pastors

00:45:54.240 but if that's largely behind him now other than a punitive prosecution of Arthur Pawlowski and his

00:46:01.300 brother for contempt I think that maybe Jason Kenney could be that anti-lockdown hero that Canada

00:46:09.340 desperately needs my god I hope he is listen Andrew great to see you thanks for letting me make you watch

00:46:15.260 that five minute video from Ron DeSantis but it's the best thing anytime it's always good to talk to you

00:46:21.180 right on great to see you folks just a reminder you can catch Andrew at andrewlaughtonshow.com

00:46:27.600 or tnc.news take care my friend you too all right stay with us more

00:46:32.460 on my show last night ma writes science which we are not allowed to question and dispute is not science

00:46:49.980 but a religious cult masquerading as science yeah I mean I really went deep on my own watching videos

00:46:57.020 of Feynman and reading his quotes he was what I wish Bill Nye the science guy was like just someone

00:47:04.320 who loved skepticism was genuinely curious explained real science and wasn't political boy we could use

00:47:10.720 a Dr. Feynman these days bold right the point of science is to question it by definition questioning

00:47:18.340 Fauci is entirely within reason yeah I mean that's actually the root of the word science it means to

00:47:24.060 observe to look to look skeptically Nick writes if you can question it it's science if you can't

00:47:31.980 it's propaganda yeah exactly and you know I quoted that one line from Shakespeare and forgive me I

00:47:38.000 always throw that into things it was a joke it's when Beatrice comes out and yeah yeah they they basically

00:47:45.280 mock Benedict and tell him he was wrong and he accepts it and he says you know we're lucky to mend our

00:47:56.980 flaws when critics point them out no one actually says that no one actually loves being proved wrong

00:48:05.080 it was a joke when Shakespeare said it but it's true anyways if you're proving that you're wrong on

00:48:12.060 something you can do better you can reform yourself but it's just the toughest thing in the world isn't

00:48:18.100 it don't you hate when people say I told you so I think that's why people are so mad when I call out

00:48:27.440 Patrick King and say you know he didn't have a winning court and that was sort of a bs video

00:48:32.760 people hate to hear that they hate to hear I told you so they hate to hear you're wrong Shakespeare

00:48:39.520 is correct no one likes to be criticized but I think the truth compels it that's a show for today

00:48:47.580 until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters good night keep fighting for fear

00:48:52.400 you

Rebel News Podcast - August 06, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Did a lone man from Red Deer really defeat Alberta's lockdown in court — and free the whole province？

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