Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Half a million Canadians say that Trudeau has to go — and the Liberal Party says they’re just foreign-funded trolls and should be censored

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Some interesting things on social media. I don't think that's an oxymoron.

00:00:05.320 Half a million Canadians over the weekend tweeted, Trudeau must go. I don't think there's ever been

00:00:10.360 a larger Twitter trend in Canada. And the reaction by the Liberal Party was absolutely predictable

00:00:15.740 and depressing. I'll show you all that. Plus, at the end of today's show, I'll show you a video

00:00:21.020 of Justin Trudeau in London having a little party, just dancing and singing and having a

00:00:29.600 great time right before the Queen's funeral. What a disgrace he is. I'll show you all that. But 0.98

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00:00:59.600 Tonight, half a million Canadians say that Trudeau has to go. And the Liberal Party says they're

00:01:16.820 just foreign-funded trolls and should be censored. It's September 19th, and this is the Ezra LeVant

00:01:22.540 show. You know that the social media giants throttle conservatives, right? That is not a

00:01:43.560 theory or a speculation. It is a policy. I know that because when it happened to us on YouTube,

00:01:48.560 I asked our YouTube representative, and she confirmed it to me. It's their written policy.

00:01:54.380 They boost what they call trusted or quality media, by which they really mean establishment

00:02:00.280 media, left-wing media, state broadcasters, government media. You can literally type in

00:02:05.100 the exact name of a Rebel News video, and often YouTube will serve up a CBC or CTV or Global

00:02:10.920 News video on the same subject instead. I tell you that to point out just how hard it is to get

00:02:17.440 anything trending or going viral on social media these days if you are conservative, if you're

00:02:22.940 not in league with Trudeau or Joe Biden or the World Economic Forum or whatever. Twitter is the

00:02:28.960 same. You can see their curated list of suggested tweets. It's always left-wing fads or globalist

00:02:35.100 fads. They sure seem to be pushing the war in Ukraine, too. I wonder if that's a sponsored ad

00:02:40.060 like many of the other trending subjects. It's weird to see wars being promoted, I think. But

00:02:45.460 into this left-wing globalist think-alike swamp came a wonderful, refreshing, heartwarming trend

00:02:52.420 started by this guy. Nickname is Marty Up North. He published a nice photo of himself, and he wrote,

00:02:59.140 quote, I'm a 55-year-old Canadian. I'm married, father to four, university educated, and perfectly

00:03:06.060 bilingual. I'm an engineer, solving problems for 35 years. I'm a volunteer hockey coach and an avid

00:03:11.940 outdoorsman. According to Trudeau, I'm an extremist who needs to be dealt with. Hashtag Trudeau must go.

00:03:20.000 And would you look at that? About 24,000 people clicked like on that, but they didn't just like it.

00:03:28.420 They copied the format. They did the same thing, too. Countless people. It was really fun to watch.

00:03:34.380 It was kind of like a cross between show and tell, where you would talk about yourself a bit,

00:03:39.280 like a platonic dating app, really, but not for dating. Show your best picture, say what you're

00:03:45.480 proud about in your life, and point out how that you have been demonized by Trudeau, but you don't

00:03:52.180 care because you know he's wrong. So many wonderful people. I recognized some of them. Some were famous,

00:03:57.920 some were obscure, but it really felt like a national moment, like people were introducing

00:04:03.720 themselves to each other best foot forward. I thought it was nice. There was some pain in that

00:04:08.540 Trudeau had demonized them and hurt them in some ways, but there was some love, the feeling of

00:04:12.780 solidarity and friendship and patriotic defiance, and that hashtag Trudeau must go. And people just

00:04:19.720 started doing it. It was like a weekend thing to do. Instead of being ashamed by Trudeau, who had

00:04:24.680 demonized them, instead of being embarrassed by the regime media who has tried to humiliate

00:04:30.480 Trudeau's critics, they all came forward together and had strength in numbers. I'm just going to

00:04:34.340 read a few of them. Here's one. I'm Métis. My mother is Plains Cree Indian. My grandfather is a

00:04:40.240 residential school survivor. My wife is Filipina. My children are multiracial. We were Freedom Convoy

00:04:45.640 supporters. Trudeau tried to seize my bank account because he thinks I'm a racist and extremist.

00:04:49.840 Trudeau must go. I'm just going to read some of these. I'm a 39-year-old mother of one. I have

00:04:56.360 a bachelor of medical science, master's in medical biochemistry, bachelor's of science in nursing,

00:05:01.520 two years as an immunization nurse for the government of Canada. I'm a registered nurse,

00:05:05.540 psychotherapist, and according to Trudeau, I'm an unscientific misogynist that needs to be dealt

00:05:10.440 with. I'm going to read some more. I'm 35, fourth generation, married mom of a three-year-old, CEO,

00:05:17.660 Bachelor of Business Administration honors. Bilingual, musically and academically gifted.

00:05:22.400 I advocate for terminally ill cancer patients and donate time teaching young women business skills.

00:05:27.420 According to Trudeau, I should not be tolerated. Trudeau must go. Here's another one. I'm a 34-year-old

00:05:34.720 Jamaican, born Canadian, engineer and project manager. I'm a husband and father of two young

00:05:40.100 boys, five and two, because I made a different medical choice. Justin Trudeau says I'm an ideologically

00:05:45.540 motivated extremist, racist, and misogynist. Trudeau must go. Aren't these fun? Don't you like meeting 0.96

00:05:51.260 these people? I am a 36-year-old female and a former young liberal who sat on shoulders at rallies

00:05:59.200 and canvassed. I became a proud conservative when liberals became unrecognizable, unquestioning,

00:06:04.200 and intolerant. Because I am unvaccinated, Justin Trudeau thinks I'm a racist, misogynist. Trudeau must go. 0.90

00:06:09.440 Hmm. Here's one. I am a 26-year-old, second-generation immigrant, university-educated,

00:06:17.080 tax and attention-paying citizen who watched the country value a snake oil PM's opinions over

00:06:22.260 their own blood. Fed up with the intentional divide and being called mean names by someone

00:06:26.440 who's supposed to have our backs, Trudeau must go. Just give me a couple more. This is a good one.

00:06:33.180 I'm an indigenous woman and I've worked 15 years in the natural resource sector.

00:06:37.080 I'm fluent in three languages. I'm vaccinated and I respect the decisions of others. I'm

00:06:41.560 anti-poverty. I'm Canadian. But Justin Trudeau calls me an extremist with unacceptable views.

00:06:46.880 Trudeau must go. I'm 68. I served 33 years in the Canadian army, including five operational tours.

00:06:55.340 I have PhD in physics, was a business owner, pay taxes and do volunteer work. I believe in free

00:07:00.400 choice. According to Justin Trudeau, I'm an extremist and needs to be dealt with. Trudeau must go.

00:07:07.080 I just got to give you this next one. Do you see the name there, Kyle Kemper?

00:07:13.940 That's Trudeau's half-brother. I'm a 37-year-old father of four and a half. I don't know how you

00:07:21.140 do that math. Entrepreneur, crypto OG and proud Canadian. For two decades, I've been calling BS

00:07:28.160 on the corporatocracy and my brother, Justin Trudeau, has become a captive in their scheme.

00:07:32.880 It's time Trudeau must go and for Canada to become a sovereign nation again. Boy.

00:07:38.940 You know, I really would like a coffee table book of the best of these. They're beautiful

00:07:43.040 people of every shape and size and age and color and background. They're all speaking

00:07:47.900 from the heart. It's reclaiming their identity. You know, they were made to feel afraid and

00:07:51.840 marginalized. I mean, remember this, thug? 0.99

00:07:53.520 Yes. We're going to get out of this pandemic for the vaccination. And we know all people

00:07:59.440 who are trying to hesitate a little bit. We're going to continue to convince them. But

00:08:03.640 there are also people who are far away from the vaccination.

00:08:06.680 They're extremists.

00:08:07.600 They don't believe in science. They're often misogynes. They're often racist, too. It's 0.97

00:08:12.600 a small group, but they take place. And there, we have to make a choice as a leader, as a country.

00:08:20.800 Do we tolerate these people? Or do we say, well, let's see, the most people, almost 80% of

00:08:27.600 the Québécois, have done what they need to do. They've been vaccinated. We want to return

00:08:31.600 to things that we love to do. It's not those people who are going to block us.

00:08:35.800 Or remember this one?

00:08:37.680 You don't want to comment on the triage because it's a provincial jurisdiction, but so are movies,

00:08:42.820 so are gyms, all of those types of things. And you also say, you look pretty angry about

00:08:47.860 it, that they're putting kids and people who are vulnerable at risk. Are they not putting

00:08:55.360 some people who may not get the treatment they need in hospitals at risk?

00:09:01.280 And yes, we can all say to a certain extent that it is unfortunate that people who chose

00:09:12.620 not to get vaccinated are now the ones clogging up our ICU systems and our hospital beds that

00:09:19.600 should be available for people who did their work and did get vaccinated. That is really

00:09:25.940 unfortunate. And that is why we are unequivocal. They don't get to put others at risk by not

00:09:31.560 getting vaccinated.

00:09:32.560 Or remember this guy from the Ottawa police? What a disgrace he is. 0.96

00:09:36.820 If the protesters at this point, you know, retreat and go home, are they going to be getting 0.91

00:09:43.540 sort of repercussions down the road? Are you going to be sort of actively pursuing the people

00:09:48.280 that you've been sort of documenting and filming who are still out there protesting? What are

00:09:52.820 your plans after this, after the protest is over?

00:09:55.820 Thank you. It's a great question. And the simple answer is yes. If you are involved in this protest,

00:10:01.520 we will actively look to identify you and follow up with financial sanctions and criminal charges.

00:10:07.460 Absolutely. This investigation will go on for months to come. It has many, many different streams,

00:10:14.660 both from a federal financial level, from a provincial licensing level, from a criminal code level,

00:10:22.280 from a municipal breach of court order, breach of court injunction level. It will be a complicated

00:10:29.120 and time consuming investigation that will go on for a period of time. You have my commitment that

00:10:36.120 that investigation will continue and we will hold people accountable for taking our streets over.

00:10:42.440 Yeah, seriously. Who the hell were they trying to make us feel bad? They were trying to make us feel

00:10:47.660 bad about peaceful opposition to Trudeau and his extremist policies. And I think it scared people for a

00:10:52.140 bit, but half a million people, you know, I don't know if I mentioned that, half a million people

00:10:56.760 did this, or at least half a million people were tweeting about others doing it, tweeting about

00:11:01.060 Trudeau must go. It was huge. I don't think there's ever been such a large grassroots rebellion on

00:11:05.760 social conservative by, on social media by conservatives. It was amazing. I've never seen that before.

00:11:11.880 But you know who panicked? This guy. Trudeau's disgraced advisor and childhood friend, Gerald Butts.

00:11:21.540 He said, the real question is, who is paying for this campaign, according to Trudeau?

00:11:27.780 Who's paying for this campaign? How do you pay for a half a million different Canadians to tweet or

00:11:34.340 retweet something? Like, can I get paid for tweeting? Because I sort of do it as a hobby. Can I get my cut?

00:11:39.940 He went on a bit of a rant about it. He went all conspiracy theory about it. But look at what that

00:11:44.920 means. He's saying that there is no way the Canadians can't share his love for Trudeau. It's

00:11:50.600 un-possible that anyone doesn't love the Sun King. You know, it must be fake. It must be paid for by

00:11:56.860 someone. Probably Vladimir Putin. Talk about conspiracy theories. But really, I think he's projecting,

00:12:02.760 I didn't know you could pay people to tweet things. I mean, obviously you can pay people to tweet

00:12:07.140 things, fake things, but these were real people. Does Gerald Butts buy fake tweets for the Liberal

00:12:13.520 Party? He seems to know a lot about doing that, doesn't he? It was the number one trending item on

00:12:20.340 Twitter all weekend. Tell Gerald Butts to publicly complain and then poof, like a miracle, Twitter just

00:12:26.740 removed it as their top trending item. Funny how that worked. Gerald Butts is getting really weird and

00:12:32.860 creepy these days. Here's something he tweeted. He said he was lashing out at me, but he won't type

00:12:40.020 my name. It's like he's afraid to say it's like a child watching those Harry Potter films and being

00:12:46.080 afraid to say the name of the bad guy, Voldemort. Butts is still ranting about the fact that the

00:12:50.900 Globe and Mail published an editorial column written by me three years ago. Seriously, he is obsessed.

00:12:56.740 He's obsessed with silencing critics. That's why he hated this viral trend, because he can't debate

00:13:03.420 them. He doesn't want to debate them. He doesn't want to admit that there are half a million people

00:13:07.640 who just said Trudeau must go. Can't believe that they could possibly be real. There's no point in

00:13:13.580 debating a Russian secret agent. Am I right? The more control he has over the mainstream media, the more

00:13:19.300 control he wants that he needs as he realizes that there's still a single free journalist in the

00:13:24.060 country. Or if people can freely talk on Twitter, he does not truly have control. Just like a single

00:13:29.300 candle can still light up a room, even if a thousand other candles are snuffed out, it's that last candle

00:13:35.420 that makes the most difference. It defies the dark. That's what Trudeau and Butts hate. Let me close with a

00:13:41.780 classic example of what this means. Just an example. A censorship world where the only media allowed are the

00:13:49.000 regime media or a free world where journalists can speak the truth. Look at this video of a Trudeau,

00:13:56.240 I don't know if he's drunk, in London for the Queen's funeral, singing a party song from the band Queen.

00:14:02.460 Get it? Here's Trudeau.

00:14:18.420 He's putting on a show for the Brits. There in mourning, he's partying, singing, showing what a dramatic actor he is.

00:14:26.100 His wife is nowhere to be seen. So here's how the Daily Mail reported it in London.

00:14:32.600 Drunk Canadian PM, Trudeau is slammed as a tone-deaf embarrassment for singing Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody

00:14:40.440 at London Hotel before Elizabeth II's state funeral. Wearing a casual t-shirt, Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau

00:14:46.440 was seen standing over a piano during a sing-along with other members of his formal delegation at the Central

00:14:51.540 London Hotel. Trudeau was heard hitting the infamous notes during the Jollity, along with the lyrics,

00:14:57.240 easy come, easy go. The sing-song happened on Saturday night at London's swanky Carinthia Hotel, just two days

00:15:04.200 before billions tuned in to watch Queen Elizabeth II's funeral at Westminster Abbey on Monday morning.

00:15:09.080 So that's the free press.

00:15:11.080 But here's how the regime press in Canada, in this case the Toronto Star, the largest newspaper in the country,

00:15:18.800 here's what they had to say about it.

00:15:21.080 Their headline, you won't even believe this, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's impromptu tribute

00:15:26.840 to the Queen included a hotel piano and Bohemian Rhapsody. The Prime Minister and Canadian pianist

00:15:33.800 Gregory Charles were captured on video performing the popular Queen song in a London hotel lobby on Saturday night.

00:15:40.560 Hey, it was his tribute tour, guys. Seriously. Yeah, no, that was totally classy.

00:15:46.600 Whoa, the Toronto Star, they are ready to work in North Korea, aren't they? They will do whatever the regime tells them to do.

00:15:52.800 But look, if that's all you read, Trudeau's CBC and Trudeau's Toronto Star and Trudeau's Globe and Mail and Trudeau's Post Media,

00:16:02.960 they're all on the bailout media. If that's all you read, you wouldn't really be able to believe

00:16:08.240 that half a million ordinary Canadians actually went on Twitter and said Trudeau must go.

00:16:12.700 You couldn't believe it. You wouldn't believe it. You would have to come up with some other explanation

00:16:17.480 like they were all Russian spies, wouldn't you? Otherwise, your whole world view would crumble.

00:16:26.580 Stay with us for more.

00:16:38.920 I remember when I first started reading Alan Bokhari, now the senior tech correspondent for Breitbart.com,

00:16:45.480 and I'll admit, and this just shows my naivete, I thought, why is a news and political site like Breitbart covering tech?

00:16:53.240 Isn't tech sort of wonky and boring? Isn't it sort of science-y? Well, what a fool I was.

00:16:59.480 I didn't realize, of course, it was the great battleground for censorship and political control. 0.99

00:17:06.340 Control the perception of the world, you control the world.

00:17:09.040 Of course, we perceive everything through our cell phone, our computer screen, and, of course,

00:17:16.260 the conquering of Silicon Valley by woke leftists, really taking over what left-brained computer science

00:17:24.300 engineers had built so beautifully and replacing it with wokeism, I think, is one of the stories of the decade.

00:17:31.000 And the man who's been covering it, I won't say single-handedly, but an early innovator in covering

00:17:38.620 the politicization of Silicon Valley is our friend Alan Bokhari, who is that senior tech correspondent

00:17:46.080 at Breitbart.com, and what a delight to have him back on the show, Alan.

00:17:49.260 It's been too long since we had you last, and your beat, which felt a little obscure years ago,

00:17:55.860 is actually the most important beat of all, isn't it?

00:18:01.340 It certainly escalated incredibly quickly.

00:18:04.500 I remember, as you were saying, when I started reporting on tech, there was very little sense

00:18:11.620 on where things were going to go.

00:18:13.360 Everyone just assumed tech was this apolitical thing.

00:18:16.660 There was no partisan politics allowed, and that all the social media platforms would just

00:18:21.480 continue allowing people to have free speech indefinitely, because that was what they promised

00:18:26.960 initially.

00:18:27.640 I mean, it's hard to see that now, but back in the early 2010s, they were promising free speech,

00:18:33.760 an open platform, a voice for all.

00:18:35.440 They had very limited content moderation policies.

00:18:38.380 But that all changed so quickly around 2015 and 2016, all, of course, in response to the populist

00:18:45.900 movement and in response to pressure from elites and the media.

00:18:49.900 Yeah.

00:18:50.400 Yeah.

00:18:50.800 And of course, when Donald Trump won, largely using tech, social media, Facebook, well,

00:18:57.000 that's when the great deplatforming of conservatives happened in earnest.

00:19:01.380 Let's go through a few tech issues.

00:19:03.900 There's so many out there.

00:19:06.000 A couple months ago, a few months ago now, Elon Musk, the world's wealthiest man, at least

00:19:10.800 depending on the price of Tesla, made a surprising bid for the whole company, wanted to take

00:19:18.100 Twitter private.

00:19:20.240 He's the owner of Tesla.

00:19:21.200 He was going to use that wealth to buy Twitter.

00:19:24.600 Twitter resisted for a bit, but now it's flipped around.

00:19:29.160 They want to go through with the deal, and he doesn't.

00:19:33.260 They're in court.

00:19:35.020 He says he doesn't want to buy now because he was misled about how many fake accounts there

00:19:40.420 are.

00:19:41.200 What's really going on there?

00:19:42.520 Is that really why Elon Musk is backing down, or is there something more going on here?

00:19:47.260 Well, it's difficult to decipher exactly what's going on here because I – well, I'll say

00:19:51.600 one thing.

00:19:52.240 I don't think it's simply because of the bot issue.

00:19:55.340 I think there's something else going on.

00:19:57.300 You have to remember when Elon Musk first made his offer to buy Twitter, tech stocks were

00:20:02.720 still way up.

00:20:04.420 And within a month, tech stocks, including Tesla, had crashed quite a bit.

00:20:08.760 So the offer he made at the time was – is by today's standards very, very generous.

00:20:16.320 So it's one possibility that he's simply trying to get a better price through these

00:20:20.720 legal wranglings.

00:20:22.320 The other possibility is that he saw there was going to be too much pressure, especially

00:20:27.460 from Tesla shareholders.

00:20:29.140 As he pointed out, a lot of his wealth is tied to Tesla.

00:20:32.340 And Tesla's shareholders were going to be upset by his focus on Twitter.

00:20:37.360 There were signs of that during the early start of the negotiations.

00:20:42.540 So, you know, many, many possibilities.

00:20:44.420 It's hard to say which one is correct.

00:20:46.800 I think the reason Twitter wants him to go through with it is because, you know, they

00:20:49.800 don't really have a choice because the offer is so good financially by today's standards

00:20:54.580 that, you know, they'd be abandoning, you know, their duties to their shareholders if

00:20:59.140 they didn't press forward on the deal.

00:21:00.960 So that's where Twitter is coming from.

00:21:03.600 But as far as Musk's motivations go, you know, it's difficult to decipher and there

00:21:07.580 are various possibilities.

00:21:09.260 Yeah.

00:21:09.380 And he's such an unusual fellow, speaks so bluntly and plainly and with a bit of a

00:21:14.220 libertarian voice sometimes.

00:21:15.480 But then again, he's got a blind spot, I think, with China because Tesla wants – Tesla

00:21:20.720 has a factory in China.

00:21:21.880 They want to grow there.

00:21:22.700 You can see when the subject of China is raised, he becomes very careful all of a sudden.

00:21:28.020 I think that's a pressure point on him, too.

00:21:30.840 Let me – speaking of Twitter, in some recent lawsuits, including that of a vaccine skeptic

00:21:39.940 named Alex Berenson and some other vaccine lawsuits, it has come out that the U.S.

00:21:46.520 government, especially the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control, was – I wouldn't say

00:21:52.300 instructing, but let's just say telling tech companies, well, throttle that guy, silence

00:21:58.900 that guy, that guy's getting too much attention for his skeptical views.

00:22:04.220 And it looks like they were contracting out government censorship to private companies.

00:22:11.840 What's the state of that?

00:22:14.240 Yeah, this is really the story of the modern age in America.

00:22:18.400 Tech companies simply – censorship by proxy.

00:22:21.240 So tech companies and the corporate sector being used to carry out the censorship that

00:22:27.940 America's ruling class wants to do but can't do via the government because of the First 0.91

00:22:33.540 Amendment.

00:22:34.780 And in a sense, it's worse.

00:22:36.220 It's even worse than government censorship because you can't really hold – there are

00:22:39.340 no checks and balances to hold it accountable.

00:22:41.860 You can't simply limit it through courts.

00:22:47.320 In fact, this Alex Berenson case was, I think, the only case of a prominent person getting

00:22:51.960 their Twitter account back through a lawsuit.

00:22:53.800 Lots of other people have tried and failed.

00:22:56.800 But yeah, this lawsuit revealed that the back channels that existed between the White House,

00:23:03.420 the Biden White House, and social media companies were extensive.

00:23:07.500 And I think probably one of the reasons why Twitter wanted the lawsuit to end so quick is

00:23:11.440 because they didn't want more coming out.

00:23:15.140 And I think it really shows how the ruling class views social media.

00:23:24.640 They view social media as their mechanism for constraining certain voices.

00:23:29.180 And they're desperate to avoid a situation like 2015 and 2016 where you did have that relatively

00:23:35.920 open playing field on social media where ordinary people did have a voice because they saw the

00:23:41.160 results of that.

00:23:41.760 The results of that was Brexit, Donald Trump, the populist movement.

00:23:45.580 They want to avoid that reality coming to pass again.

00:23:49.480 And it's all down to social media, in my opinion.

00:23:52.380 So it's all about that freedom of speech and giving ordinary people a voice that allowed

00:23:57.820 that environment to emerge.

00:24:00.920 I think you're right.

00:24:03.540 Speaking of which, help me understand this.

00:24:06.140 You had a story in Breitbart recently about a bill that Amy Klobuchar, who's a Democrat,

00:24:14.200 introduced and then Senator Ted Cruz, who's a Republican from Texas, Republican from Texas.

00:24:18.880 He put in an amendment prohibiting censorship collusion.

00:24:23.940 Now, help me understand this.

00:24:25.740 What was the Democrat bill designed to do?

00:24:29.060 And what was this Ted Cruz amendment that it looks like it passed, even though the Republicans

00:24:34.320 don't have a majority in the Senate?

00:24:35.980 Help me figure this out a little bit.

00:24:37.380 What does it mean in terms of Internet censorship?

00:24:39.700 What was the bill?

00:24:40.660 What was the amendment?

00:24:41.660 And where is it now?

00:24:43.100 So this is really one of the most sinister bills that has come out of this Congress.

00:24:46.980 The Journalism Competition and Preservation Act, and it has been sold to lawmakers as a bill

00:24:53.680 to help small local independent news companies get their fair share of revenue from big tech

00:25:00.400 by allowing them to join together in a kind of cartel and negotiating entity to do collective

00:25:05.660 bargaining with big tech.

00:25:07.440 Now, of course, it is not at all as it as it has been sold to lawmakers.

00:25:12.060 It is, in fact, the creation of the most powerful media companies in the world, international

00:25:18.660 media companies.

00:25:19.580 They're lobbyists in D.C., which are for the News Media Alliance, they're called.

00:25:24.440 They've poured $2 million into more than at least $2 million into lobbying in D.C. over

00:25:30.540 the past two years.

00:25:32.120 And their priority has been passing this bill because what this bill will do is it creates

00:25:36.200 an antitrust exemption for media companies.

00:25:38.840 Media companies will be able to join together to pressure the tech companies and actually

00:25:43.320 force agreements on the tech companies through arbitration that would force them to give more

00:25:48.860 revenue to the tech companies.

00:25:51.240 Sorry, that would force the tech companies to give more revenue to the media companies. 0.98

00:25:54.560 So it's a mechanism for consolidating and entrenching the power of the mainstream media, which was

00:26:01.000 previously under threat from new media.

00:26:03.500 Of course, you know, podcasters and sub stack authors get nothing from this bill.

00:26:07.380 It's entirely for the big media companies.

00:26:09.880 And what makes matters and the Cruz Amendment, what makes the Cruz Amendment so interesting

00:26:13.560 is it reveals another purpose of the bill.

00:26:17.300 So the bill has been sold as this thing just, you know, about getting, you know, a fair price

00:26:23.480 for news content that, you know, tech companies should pay a pay a price to pay a fee to news

00:26:28.620 companies for their content.

00:26:30.460 And, you know, I still don't agree with that.

00:26:32.560 I don't think tech companies would be forced to prop up the failing mainstream media.

00:26:36.760 I think the mainstream media deserve to fail.

00:26:39.060 But if it were just that, that would be bad enough.

00:26:42.940 But the bill actually allows this media cartel to negotiate with the tech companies on anything,

00:26:48.440 including censoring their competition.

00:26:49.920 So, you know, you could imagine a group of media companies, CNN, Hearst, Gannett, getting

00:26:57.480 together and saying, hey, we want this agreement with you.

00:27:00.960 We want this much in revenue.

00:27:02.300 And we also want to be prioritizing algorithms.

00:27:04.860 We want our competitors to press.

00:27:06.180 We want you to clamp down on fake news and misinformation and make sure you put our content

00:27:10.360 above theirs.

00:27:11.900 And what the Cruz Amendment did was it would have limited the negotiations of the cartel just

00:27:16.860 to price.

00:27:17.380 So they would only be able to talk to the tech companies on matters concerning revenue and

00:27:22.140 revenue and how much the media companies were getting.

00:27:26.080 And that sounded like a reasonable amendment to all the Republicans who voted in favor of

00:27:30.440 it on the committee.

00:27:31.380 But the Democrats immediately pulled the bill.

00:27:33.780 They said they couldn't pass the bill with that amendment, which would reveal the true

00:27:37.860 intention behind the bill, which is to not just entrench the mainstream media's power

00:27:42.240 in terms of their revenue, but also in terms of censoring their competition and ensuring

00:27:47.140 they're the only source of information that people see when they log on to Twitter and

00:27:51.860 Facebook and every other platform.

00:27:53.960 Well, that's incredible.

00:27:54.700 Alan, I want to give you a report from north of the 49th parallel.

00:27:59.100 Here in Canada, we have a similar project that is in a bill put forward by Justin Trudeau's

00:28:07.040 Liberals that would cause Facebook and YouTube Google to give tens of millions of dollars to

00:28:14.280 be divided up amongst dying mainstream media.

00:28:17.500 So that part exists in Canada.

00:28:20.040 But part of the bill explicitly requires.

00:28:25.040 So this isn't something that our large mainstream media has negotiated.

00:28:28.900 This is something that the Trudeau Liberals have injected straight into the bill.

00:28:34.640 No need to negotiate it.

00:28:35.860 It's there that the what the government calls qualified Canadian journalism organizations

00:28:43.400 must be boosted.

00:28:45.460 They call that discoverability.

00:28:47.720 And media like us, which are not licensed by the government, must be de-boosted.

00:28:54.840 So what you're talking about, this disastrous scenario that Ted Cruz was trying to head off

00:29:00.940 and when he did, the Democrats abandoned the bill.

00:29:03.840 That's not just in the bill in Canada, but they don't have to negotiate it.

00:29:08.780 Globe and Mail, Toronto Star, CBC, they don't have to negotiate with Facebook and YouTube

00:29:14.840 and Google to downrank competitors like us.

00:29:17.680 It's in the bill already.

00:29:20.200 Facebook, YouTube, Google have no choice.

00:29:22.080 They have to throttle independent companies that do not have the government license.

00:29:27.860 Can you believe that?

00:29:28.480 I don't know if you've heard of that down there, but we are the terrible template up here.

00:29:33.580 Yeah, I have heard about that.

00:29:35.480 And, you know, this is there's a global push for similar bills.

00:29:39.260 You know, there was a similar thing on Australia forcing tech companies to prop up media companies.

00:29:43.360 So this is all coming from the same motivation.

00:29:45.840 And it all comes from that fear, that fear of the open social media that used to exist that they got rid of

00:29:52.520 because it was too threatening to elites.

00:29:54.660 They want to go back to the days where the mainstream media controls the narrative

00:29:58.920 and they want to suppress all of the mainstream media's competitions.

00:30:02.100 I think the reason why the Canadian bill is so much worse than I mean, they're both bad bills.

00:30:10.620 But the reason why the Canadian bill is so explicit is because you guys have a liberal one party state that I'm sure the Democrats would love to make it that explicit in their bill as well.

00:30:18.920 But they need 10 Republicans in order to pass it through the Senate.

00:30:22.020 And the only the only way they're going to get the 10 Republicans is if they somehow convince them this is just about saving their struggling local newspaper

00:30:30.680 and not about centering the mainstream media's enemies.

00:30:34.120 The Cruz Amendment exposed that.

00:30:36.360 And actually, it's I've been quite optimistic because they had a lot of Republicans signed on to this bill.

00:30:41.480 And but as we've exposed it, as we've shown them the truth of this legislation, now the Republicans are wavering.

00:30:47.420 Rand Paul, who was co-sponsoring this bill, just pulled out of it.

00:30:50.640 He can no longer support it.

00:30:52.200 That almost never happened for someone to pull out of a bill they were co-sponsoring.

00:30:56.720 And it just shows you can make a difference if you, you know, if you expose things and if you hold these people accountable.

00:31:02.400 Yeah, well, Rand Paul is a very special politician.

00:31:04.600 He's one of the few who I think could be persuaded by ideas.

00:31:08.820 Let's end on a positive note.

00:31:10.580 You know, we're based in Toronto, Canada, and not too far down the street was the offices of Rumble.com.

00:31:19.820 And they were a little company, really similar to us.

00:31:23.600 And then suddenly they just started getting momentum because they sort of decided they were going to be a YouTube alternative.

00:31:30.840 And their comparative advantage was not size or money or, you know, brand name or whatever.

00:31:37.500 Although I like Rumble.com.

00:31:38.980 It's sort of cool.

00:31:39.760 It was that they weren't going to be censors.

00:31:43.580 And by the way, they were tested on that recently when there was enormous pressure on social media companies to delete accounts of Russia today.

00:31:53.680 That's a state broadcaster that Putin controls.

00:31:57.340 YouTube complied.

00:31:58.480 They knocked off RT's YouTube channel, which was interesting.

00:32:03.040 I mean, you didn't have to agree with it or believe it all.

00:32:04.980 But it was interesting to hear what the other side had to say during the war.

00:32:08.680 YouTube and other social media companies collapsed.

00:32:11.860 They tried to pressure Rumble.

00:32:14.140 And Rumble actually held the line.

00:32:16.140 That must have been extremely difficult.

00:32:18.040 I can only imagine not just economic pressure, but diplomatic and military.

00:32:23.260 And they held the line.

00:32:25.820 Rumble's been growing.

00:32:26.640 They just announced a deal with Russell Brand, who's a prominent UK independent thinker.

00:32:32.060 Glenn Greenwald, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:32:33.720 I'm a tiny bit hopeful that Rumble might actually turn into something.

00:32:39.060 I understand that this week there's going to be an investment by Cantor Fitzgerald, which is a big hedge fund that is not ideological.

00:32:47.600 I think they're putting in $400 million.

00:32:48.760 I am allowing myself a tiny sliver of hope that maybe there's a company that says, well, look, if all those guys are becoming censors, that leaves the uncensored market for us and we're going to own it.

00:33:03.320 I don't know.

00:33:03.780 I just I just need a little bit of hope now that Elon Musk doesn't want Twitter anymore.

00:33:08.140 I have to have something I can look forward to.

00:33:10.680 Yeah, I think censorship, for me, it seems like it really peaked in the days following January the 6th.

00:33:21.240 That's when Donald Trump was kicked off all of those platforms.

00:33:24.360 That's when Parler was banned from the App Store.

00:33:27.640 And they really sort of they sort of went a few a few multiple bridges too far because they were drawing the tech companies were drawing international condemnation for what they did in those weeks.

00:33:39.320 So I think there's a bit more restraint on the part of the tech companies at the moment.

00:33:43.900 I don't see Rumble getting banned from the App Stores anytime soon.

00:33:46.640 And the the the arrival of this hedge fund suggests that there's some appetite in the market for this as well.

00:33:52.580 We also see companies like Substack, which are doing very well, also taking a very pro free speech stance.

00:33:58.800 Now, there are a lot of pressure points you can bring on these companies, payment processing, hosting, app stores, all the things we've seen in the past.

00:34:09.320 But I think the more the powers that be use these methods, the more people are just going to get frustrated with them.

00:34:17.620 And the more it's going to be obvious what they what they're doing.

00:34:20.000 I think they've realized they can't push it too far.

00:34:22.800 Well, I sure hope you're right.

00:34:24.160 By the way, full disclosure, I own a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of Rumble.

00:34:28.860 So I'm hoping they do well personally as well as as a company.

00:34:32.460 Listen, we're in a fascinating world.

00:34:36.300 And if you are not even able to see what the world is other than through the glasses of social media, you can understand why it's that is absolutely the important battlefield.

00:34:47.100 Alan Bukhari, great to have you on the show again.

00:34:49.020 Nice to see you, my friend.

00:34:51.260 Alan's the senior tech correspondent for Breitbart dot com.

00:34:53.760 You've got to follow him or you're not going to be up to date on the stuff.

00:34:56.060 Take care, my friend.

00:34:57.440 Thanks, Ezra. Good to be on.

00:34:58.520 Right on. There you have it.

00:34:59.520 Alan Bukhari. Stay with us.

00:35:00.640 More ahead.

00:35:01.100 You know, Teddy Roosevelt was one of the largest larger than life presidents.

00:35:16.860 He was sort of the Donald Trump of his time, but more rough and outdoorsy than Trump.

00:35:22.440 You know, he he got shot but finished giving the speech before going to get medical help.

00:35:28.480 He was in wars.

00:35:30.040 He created the National Park System.

00:35:31.740 Teddy Roosevelt was an outdoorsman who was made of strong stuff.

00:35:36.440 He's had such a dominating personality that his daughter, I think or niece, once said about him, he was the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral, the baby at every baptism.

00:35:47.960 As in, when you went somewhere with Teddy Roosevelt, that's all there was, didn't matter whose event there was, it was Teddy and then everyone else.

00:35:58.440 And I believe it.

00:35:59.580 He was such an enormous man who to this day leaves a shadow of great height.

00:36:06.040 Justin Trudeau has the arrogance and the ego of the great man, Teddy Roosevelt, but he has none of the wisdom or courage.

00:36:16.660 There he was in London at the Queen's funeral.

00:36:21.480 Two billion people tune in.

00:36:22.940 All the world's leaders are there.

00:36:24.320 But Justin Trudeau just couldn't be quiet and wear a black suit and show respect, even for a couple of days.

00:36:32.580 He just couldn't do it.

00:36:34.420 So he put on a show.

00:36:35.860 And, you know, if he was in his own hotel room, I don't care.

00:36:39.680 But in the hotel bar, Justin Trudeau would do a tribute to the Queen by singing Queen songs, absurd songs in a T-shirt.

00:36:49.680 I don't know if he was drunk or not.

00:36:52.240 And let me play that clip for you one more time.

00:36:55.060 Take a look.

00:36:55.480 Yeah, no wonder the Daily Mail called it a disgrace.

00:37:12.760 Teddy Roosevelt was the largest, larger-than-life guy you could meet.

00:37:16.880 But he was a great man.

00:37:19.100 And Justin Trudeau is just a petty man who always needs to be the center of the attention, even at the Queen's funeral. 0.99

00:37:25.560 What a disgrace he is. 0.97

00:37:27.220 I'll leave you on that note until tomorrow.

00:37:29.300 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:37:32.960 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:37:34.100 David Menzies for Rebel News here in Sharon, Ontario, just north of Toronto.

00:37:39.000 And, folks, I'm with Patrick McNulty.

00:37:42.240 Patrick is, or actually was, an employee of the Canadian Border Service Agency.

00:37:49.100 He was terminated.

00:37:51.220 And the reason for that is that, Patrick, he wasn't on side with all the obtrusive government mandates that have been making the lives of travelers hellacious these last several months.

00:38:07.460 This is not a law.

00:38:08.820 This is not an act.

00:38:09.940 This is a mandate.

00:38:11.020 There is so much red tape.

00:38:12.580 It is unbelievable.

00:38:14.440 There's a lot of concern about, well, what information is on my passport?

00:38:19.960 Your home address is not on your passport.

00:38:22.580 Where you are planning to self-isolate is not on your passport.

00:38:26.160 And your telephone number is not linked to your passport either.

00:38:29.000 So, if you stood your ground when boarding a flight.

00:38:32.760 And you stood your ground at the airport.

00:38:34.480 And you refused to speak with public health.

00:38:36.320 Which, yes, you can do.

00:38:37.980 They cannot handcuff you.

00:38:39.520 They cannot detain you.

00:38:40.660 There will be no arresting you for failing to speak with public health.

00:38:43.800 You can ignore them and treat them like they're invisible.

00:38:46.320 If you've done that and then you receive a knock on your door, whether it's from the RCMP, a local police unit, or a local health unit in some cases, file this complaint.

00:38:59.540 Use this formal case.

00:39:01.040 Submit your complaint.

00:39:01.960 Because where is the authority to disclose your information?

00:39:04.520 For speaking out, well, Patrick was terminated.

00:39:08.920 And even worse than that, we were going to do an interview.

00:39:13.480 This is an event Patrick's doing here tonight in Sharon.

00:39:17.080 There's no recording devices allowed in.

00:39:20.660 No image capturing devices.

00:39:23.720 And essentially, Patrick, if I can just ask you, I know you're champing at the bit to talk to me.

00:39:29.720 But you've been advised by your lawyers.

00:39:31.560 And I understand, much like Tamara Leach, you have bail conditions which actually prohibit you from talking to media.

00:39:40.020 What's that all about?

00:39:41.920 Yeah, that's correct.

00:39:43.860 You know, I really don't know how to answer that, Dave.

00:39:45.760 I don't.

00:39:47.100 I have a lot to say.

00:39:49.200 I've been very outspoken against certain programs, policies, and procedures that the federal government is implementing right now at the border.

00:39:56.560 And as of right now, I have been charged criminally.

00:40:00.980 And I'm not allowed to speak about the case.

00:40:02.900 And I've been advised to just not speak about anything at this moment in time.

00:40:07.680 Because to be honest, I don't want to go back to jail.

00:40:09.780 You know, I think this idea that here we are in Canada in 2022, it kind of looks like Orwell's 1984, we're supposed to have freedom of expression, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly.

00:40:24.080 And yet, there are people that are telling you, you cannot talk.

00:40:30.200 You cannot speak about your own story.

00:40:32.880 I think this is Banana Republic stuff.

00:40:36.300 I would have to agree.

00:40:37.720 Yeah, and I know you're walking on eggshells.

00:40:40.540 And believe me, Patrick, I'm not trying to get you into any hot water by breaking any bail conditions.

00:40:45.900 But it just seems to me that this is such a sad state of affairs.

00:40:50.060 I personally feel, I've researched your story, I think you've been wronged.

00:40:54.360 I think you were doing the Canadian public a service.

00:40:56.780 So it seems that in Justin Trudeau's Canada, no good deed goes unpunished.

00:41:01.980 Yeah, and thank you for saying so.

00:41:04.900 This is the first time in my life I've felt genuinely tongue-tied.

00:41:09.040 Because I don't know what I am allowed to say and what I'm not allowed to say.

00:41:12.780 With that being said, we have taken precautions here at this private event.

00:41:16.320 Cell phones are not allowed.

00:41:18.220 No one will be recording anything.

00:41:20.220 There is one camera recording.

00:41:21.980 But this is how we're doing it right now.

00:41:23.360 And until I hear back from my lawyer on Monday, public appearances like this, making my own videos,

00:41:30.860 it's going to have to stop until I know, really, what I'm allowed to say and what I'm not allowed to say in Justin Trudeau's Canada.

00:41:37.820 Well, you know, Patrick, I'm certainly not going to press the issue.

00:41:42.060 To me, you're one of the good guys for taking a righteous stance.

00:41:45.940 We saw what this government did to Tamara Leach. 0.98

00:41:48.640 You know, this Métis grandmother, the way she was incarcerated, virtually for no reason. 0.82

00:41:54.840 I don't want the same to happen to you.

00:41:56.720 I guess all I have to say is, what are you, without going into details, what is this event going to be tonight?

00:42:04.280 The people who are attending here at this bar, what's the gist of what they're going to hear from you?

00:42:10.100 Well, we'll be discussing our rights and freedoms as they pertain to the movement into and out of Canada.

00:42:18.720 And that's basically it.

00:42:19.880 I'm here to answer questions as they come up and really just try and calm some people down

00:42:26.060 because quite a few people in here have already shared with me some of their horrifying stories of crossing the border.

00:42:31.700 And I'd like to see it stop.

00:42:33.460 Well, Patrick, when you get the green light from your lawyers, let's arrange a proper interview

00:42:39.140 because I think your story, it should be told out there.

00:42:44.140 And what can I tell you, folks?

00:42:45.980 Please Google the name Patrick McDulty.

00:42:49.140 Yes, we'd love to get it from the horse's mouth, but the government won't let him do that.

00:42:55.160 Law enforcement won't let him do that.

00:42:57.980 I ask you, do you even recognize this country we're living in anymore?

00:43:03.460 For Rebel News, I'm David the Menzoid Menzies. 0.60

Rebel News Podcast - September 20, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Half a million Canadians say that Trudeau has to go — and the Liberal Party says they’re just foreign-funded trolls and should be censored

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