00:00:44.940Four years, if you said out loud that newcomers to our fair country weren't really joining in,
00:00:50.360you got called a bigot, usually by someone who'd never lived anywhere but downtown Toronto.
00:00:54.720So it's worth paying attention to who is actually saying this now.
00:01:00.000The Environics Institute runs the longest-running survey on immigration in this entire country.
00:01:06.200It's about as establishment as polling can get.
00:01:09.840They surveyed 2,000 Canadians by phone in September, and the results came out this week.
00:01:17.48063% of first-generation immigrants, so people who just came here, agree that too many newcomers are not adopting Canadian values.
00:01:29.300that's people who came here themselves they chose Canada they did the paperwork they did it all the
00:01:36.040right way they didn't wander across the border at Roxham Road or play the old bait and switch come
00:01:43.000here as a temporary foreign worker and then claim asylum no these people came here and then they
00:01:48.280learned the rules of our society now among Canadians whose families have been here three
00:01:55.280generations or more, it's 57%. Among the children of immigrants, it's 52%. So the people most worried
00:02:04.360that newcomers aren't integrating are immigrants themselves. They're more worried than the so-called
00:02:12.300old stock Canadians that the Liberals love to lecture about racism and diversity. On most
00:02:18.760questions, Canadians, however, have softened this year. But I should point out, and I think you know,
00:02:24.720they are being misled. In 2025, 56% of the general population said there was too much
00:02:31.440immigration. This fall, it's 48%. So the country is split right down the middle. And Veronica said
00:02:39.280that opinion has started to swing back towards openness. Now, part of the reason is that Ottawa
00:02:45.840has spent two years telling everyone it's cutting immigration. Some of that is real, but it doesn't
00:02:52.360change the catastrophic escalation in immigration over the past 11 years. The number of temporary
00:03:00.440residents is down by more than half a million from its peak. But that peak was insane. And look at how
00:03:07.900the Liberals are doing this because that's really important here. This year's target for permanent
00:03:13.720residents is roughly 380,000, only about 4% lower than last year's. And Ottawa, this is where it's
00:03:23.520tricky. Ottawa is converting roughly 150,000 people who are already here. So asylum claimants
00:03:31.820and temporary workers who came here on a temporary visa into permanent residents. So those people0.72
00:03:39.380aren't leaving the way they're supposed to. They're just moving from one column on the spreadsheet
00:03:44.700to another, and then the Liberals are calling it a success. And even with all that creative
00:03:50.480accounting, the Liberals still haven't hit their own target for temporary residents. It wanted them
00:03:56.600down to 5% of the population. They're still at 6.1%. And the deadline to meet that target, well,
00:04:03.540it's already been pushed back a year. So the cuts are much smaller than the government press
00:04:09.640releases are trying to tell you they are. Plenty of Canadians, though, heard those announcements.
00:04:14.520They read the friendly coverage from the media outlets that take the Liberals' money,
00:04:18.980and then they relaxed because they think everything is being fixed. But they are not
00:04:23.500getting the full picture. The immigrants in this poll didn't relax either. Fewer people worry about0.96
00:04:29.760the numbers now, but the values question has barely moved. 57% of Canadians writ large still
00:04:37.680say too many immigrants aren't adopting Canadian values. That's down a bit from 60% last year.
00:04:44.620In 2022, it was 47%, 10 points higher in just four years, and it's held a majority even as
00:04:51.020the other worries eased. And who could blame people for feeling that way, especially if you
00:04:56.400live in one of Canada's major cities. You look outside every Saturday and you see Hamas hate0.51
00:05:03.440marches taking to the streets. You read the news and you see that another South Asian fentanyl gang0.96
00:05:14.200or extortion gang has been charged and then released on bail. And this all tells us something.
00:05:20.960You can barely slow down the arrivals and people will give you credit for it. But the question of
00:05:26.260whether these newcomers are becoming Canadian doesn't go away just because fewer of them
00:05:31.000are coming, or at least you're being told fewer of them are coming. We see it all around us.
00:05:36.000As I said, from the organized crime, but then there's the youth unemployment rates,
00:05:40.100the healthcare wait times, the housing prices, and even the traffic. Most immigrants make1.00
00:05:45.660terrific Canadians. In an environic study last year, 81% of Canadians agreed immigrants can
00:05:52.700be just as good citizens as the people born here. And I'll be honest with you, I'm one of them.
00:05:57.860Some of the hardest working, most patriotic, and even most conservative people I've met
00:06:03.500in Alberta were not born in this country. And they're the ones sounding the alarms.
00:06:09.920They aren't against immigration. They're immigrants. They're proof that the immigration
00:06:14.120system can work, but only when it's orderly and targeted to the needs of Canada. Think about what0.71
00:06:21.580an immigrant who arrived here 20 years ago, seized today in Canada. Back then, they waited in line.
00:06:28.640They were security screened. They had their credentials checked. They had to come here and
00:06:33.720prove that they could support themselves. They had to prove that they were healthy and would
00:06:38.040not be a burden on our healthcare system. They were expected to learn English or French and get
00:06:44.940a job and then get on with the Canadian dream. Then they watched Ottawa just wave people through
00:06:50.760in numbers that would have been unthinkable when they arrived. And then those people they just
00:06:55.660waved through are not expected to contribute once they get here. These immigrants know what Canada
00:07:02.800asked of them. They can see it hasn't asked the same of everyone since. And here's the part the
00:07:08.620Liberals absolutely cannot spin to you. They built their brand on being the party of immigrants and
00:07:14.020they told us any concern about integration was racism. Now the immigrants are telling a national
00:07:20.380pollster. The system isn't working. So who exactly is the bigot in that picture? Canada used to have0.66
00:07:28.120a deal with newcomers. Come here, work hard, learn our languages, obey our laws, join our country,
00:07:33.720and you're one of us. That deal worked for generations. The liberals have undone that deal
00:07:40.380in half a generation. Cutting those numbers is a start, a small, pathetic, and frankly,0.99
00:07:46.960slightly dishonest one. But the immigrants in this poll are asking for the rest of that deal back1.00
00:07:52.640and I think we should listen to them. Joining us up after the break is Rebel News' new freelancer
00:07:58.860Corey Morgan about the Alberta government ending DEI. Stay with us.
00:08:04.480premier smith uh opposition leader in ahead and she recently said merit is code for not hiring
00:08:19.260ethnic people or women uh how do you respond to the people who are sure to be implying the
00:08:25.240new policies are intolerant or even bigoted well we have had merit-based hiring in the
00:08:30.640Alberta Public Service ever since Dale McPhee came on board. But keep in mind that only applies
00:08:36.260to those who are employed by the government of Alberta directly. And I would just invite you
00:08:43.900to look at the diversity that we have, not only with women being hired, but also those of
00:08:49.380diverse backgrounds. Just since we've had this policy in place, it's a priority for us to make
00:08:56.120sure that the public service is reflective of the people that they serve. But every single person
00:09:00.220who's been hired can feel confident that they were the best person for the job, and that's what we
00:09:04.000want. So this is now extending that policy that we've had in place for some time to all of the
00:09:08.700institutions that we govern. And as Minister Amory said, if somebody feels that they've been
00:09:14.780discriminated against, then there is still the avenue of the Human Rights Commission to pursue it.
00:09:20.760Okay, with the government, just to go further, will the government release demographic data on
00:09:25.600the current public service hires or promotions so Albertans can evaluate whether the outcomes
00:09:30.100change under these new rules um we don't I don't think that we track people based on race within
00:09:36.620our system I you know I could check with Dale McPhee if that's the case um but it would be an
00:09:41.660odd thing I think for us to to track our employees on that basis um and so I think what we would like
00:09:47.720to do is be able to have an avenue if somebody does feel that they have been treated unfairly
00:09:53.060then they still can go to the Human Rights Commission.
00:09:55.960But we want to make sure that in applications or calls for resumes,
00:10:00.360that there aren't any of these characteristics that create discrimination.
00:10:04.020And we want to make sure that when training occurs,
00:10:07.360that it's relevant to the position that they're going to be holding.
00:10:11.180And that's why mandatory DEI training will also be removed
00:10:15.240and we'll be making sure that the training that is mandatory is relevant to the position.
00:10:19.400So what you saw right there was a couple of questions from rebel freelancer, Corey Morgan, asking Alberta's premier about her recent announcement to ban DEI diversity, equity and inclusion from Alberta government agencies and institutions, which I think is an overdue change.
00:10:40.140and she is so far the first Premier in the country to do this.
00:10:45.480And joining me now is Corey Morgan to talk about that announcement
00:11:10.140I think there's a couple of things. I mean, it's a great common sense policy anyways. You know, DEI practices are abhorrent. As you said, they're racist. I think she wanted something, though, to really turn the page on the legislative schedule, you know, from the referendums that didn't go as I think the government wanted them to go necessarily.
00:11:29.100They didn't get as strong a mandate in those first nine questions as they hoped they would.
00:11:33.320So this is something to kick things off.
00:11:35.880And I think it was also a bait, as part of why I was asking.
00:11:39.940And sure enough, you know, Ed Ninch, he apparently is fully in opposition to this.
00:11:44.020He feels that apparently women and minorities won't be able to get hired if merit is applied.
00:11:49.320So it does make one question who the racist really is or who isn't in all of that.
00:11:57.040And we'll see. Is the implementation that'll be the, you know, where the proof of everything really is, though, right? Is there going to be a follow through on this? How do you get those bureaucrats to cooperate with this? How do you know they're actually not going to do this under the table? So we'll see as time passes. But it's going to be some interesting debate in the legislature on it.
00:12:16.940Yeah, I agree with you that this is red meat to the conservative base, but also just the common sense realm of Alberta. And I think we're a strongly common sense province outside of, you know, some voters in Edmonton and Calgary.
00:12:32.360But you are right to point out that DEI at its core is really the bigotry of low expectations.
00:12:39.120Look, I'm a woman. I'm in a position of management here at Rebel News.
00:12:45.640I think I got there through hard work and good choices.
00:12:48.900And I didn't need somebody picking me because I checked a diversity box.
00:12:54.560And yet for the left, they think that women and minorities need this additional help because they can't do this on their own.
00:13:02.360And so I think the bigotry actually flows two ways.
00:13:05.200It flows towards the, you know, the gender minorities, sexual minorities, racial minorities, but it also speaks to their attitude towards general Albertans that you are too racist, you are too sexist to consider the merit-based applicant here.
00:13:26.280absolutely and it's such an insult to the people who are from a minority population or or women or
00:13:34.680whatnot who did work their butts off did get themselves into positions uh you know through
00:13:39.660their own merit and hard work but people will as long as these policies exist some people kind of
00:13:44.620look out of the corner of their eye you know did this person really earn that spot or were they
00:13:48.820just put up there because they needed to check something off on a quota box and i think that
00:13:53.820They may be silent about it, but those people in those positions are welcoming this sort of thing because they can earn that recognition for their hard work and where they got themselves to and gather it.
00:14:05.900Right now, I mean, I have to admit, I'd think twice about, you know, for example, in university, this doesn't apply to this, but there's separate programs for some people of certain races to get a law degree versus others.
00:14:17.620I don't know if I was looking to choose a lawyer, if I would pick somebody who went through that program.
00:14:21.560They might be a fantastic lawyer, but I would worry about their qualifications because of this.
00:14:28.920It's going to be interesting to see the debate, though.
00:14:30.860On the political end of it, it really does pigeonhole in the head, Nancy, because this is one of those 80-20 things I think most Albertans are quite on board with it.
00:14:39.800And for him to take an opposition stance on it, he's going to have to walk really carefully as well.
00:14:44.380I think he was looking forward to a legislative session.
00:14:47.860He spent the whole day, again, trying to accuse the government of being separatist.
00:14:51.860Fine. If you don't want to turn your page on that, you know, go ahead.
00:14:54.720But meanwhile, she's moving ahead with changes that I think a lot of people are going to want to see.
00:14:58.820Yeah, I see the left wing crash out is happening in real time.
00:15:02.540If you spend too much time on X like I do, Simon Fraser, gender studies, associate professor telling the premier to F off.
00:15:11.980Other people saying that, you know, like this is the like ending DEI is racism towards the people of color, sexual minorities, whatever, as if any of those things have to do with merit.
00:15:25.920And, you know, I think a lot of these people are concerned that the funding that goes with DEI programs is going to end, thus rendering them obsolete because there's an enormous amount of money attached to these policies.
00:15:41.980absolutely and you know i had a list of questions i wanted to hit i wish i could have gotten the
00:15:46.440premier for a bunch on this one what i wanted to ask is well part of this are you going to be going
00:15:50.700in because there's whole departments dedicated to this there are people whose entire jobs
00:15:55.200are wrapped around identifying minorities to fill those check boxes and see who's in which roles
00:16:01.160who isn't presumably those people are going to be laid off are they not or or at least a lateral
00:16:06.620promotion or something i mean shouldn't these positions themselves be eliminated i mean they
00:16:12.320don't apply to anything i understand a bill won't necessarily micromanage all the way down to that
00:16:17.740point these things are going to have to happen as as i was kind of saying you know that these
00:16:22.480policies won't go away unless you really take some of the the moving parts out of the mechanisms in
00:16:28.160those institutions so it's one thing to make the legislation it's another to make it work and i
00:16:33.300really hope the government plans on following through rather than just using it as a good
00:16:36.640political uh foil in the legislature i mean this is a change i really want to see yeah and i think
00:16:42.360that will all come out in the legislation and in committee when they're adding those regulations to
00:16:47.660it um will they cut the funding um and hopefully cut the funding and not find a way to spend it
00:16:54.120somewhere else as governments are want to do but also like enforcement of this if these government
00:17:02.220agencies and bureaucrats, as you said off the top of the interview, are still doing this,
00:17:07.460just doing it wink-wink quietly. There should be some repercussions for that because it is a racist
00:17:14.180policy. And it'll be difficult to determine. That's part of why the second question I asked
00:17:19.160the Premier, though, was whether or not we're going to get some demographic numbers to know
00:17:22.080if this is actually happening in the next coming couple of years. And she responded saying we don't
00:17:27.120track those sorts of things i well yes they do actually that's how they set their quotas that's
00:17:33.260how they did determine we need this many of x in such and such role and so on now the government
00:17:39.260itself might not have those demographic numbers but the institutions they're planning to regulate
00:17:43.660clearly do uh though i i know it's a sticky area you don't want the government coming in and having
00:17:49.940a checklist that just that's what leads to this problem in the first place but it's going to be
00:17:54.220difficult to measure whether or not these people are following through on what they will have been
00:17:59.540legislated to do. And as you said, I can understand why some of those very well-paid bureaucrats who
00:18:04.580specialize in DEI are pretty afraid right now. I mean, if I had a resume that just said gender
00:18:09.880studies specialist, if I couldn't get a government job, I know I'd probably be making lattes if I
00:18:14.780was good enough to do that. So you can see the insecurity on the part of these people. It's
00:18:19.920going to be fun to watch her taking them on, actually. Yeah, and I think we're going to see
00:18:24.540some of those NDP hires in the bureaucracy circa 2015 to 2019. We're going to see the wailing and
00:18:34.860gnashing of the teeth from these people as they are forced to implement these policies. And
00:18:40.840frankly, it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. I hope they quiet quit and just never come back to
00:18:45.580work. That would be a nice thing. Another thing, which I know is pretty near impossible to do,
00:18:50.760but we know there are probably a great number of unqualified DEI hires in all sorts of areas,
00:18:56.860the bureaucracy and educational institutions and such, but to retroactively go after them is very
00:19:03.140difficult. But if you've changed the atmosphere again to a merit-based one, at least maybe these
00:19:08.240people will stop being promoted within and maybe feel that they may want to move to a jurisdiction,
00:19:13.920Though they're running out of them, B.C. doesn't look like it's going to welcome them either.
00:19:17.300Maybe they'll go to Toronto and work for the Chow administration or something like that.
00:19:21.000But there's ways and ways to kind of bring that creeping problem out of a bureaucracy.
00:19:29.320But I just, again, really hope that they're going to stay dedicated to following up.
00:19:33.580Because you can't just make the legislation and leave it alone.
00:19:35.800You've got to follow through and make sure this is actually done.
00:19:38.160Because they are going to resist with everything they've got.
00:19:40.220Corey, also at that press availability yesterday, the premier announced that AI created images of real people depicting graphic content are going to be criminalized.
00:19:57.860And I think that the sentence would be up to two years in jail.
00:20:03.660But I can't imagine the NDP are going to oppose this, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did on artistic grounds.
00:20:12.220I would hope not. I mean, this is an interesting and important piece of legislation.
00:20:17.420I would hope they actually embrace their role, sit in the legislature, maybe sit on committee and find some ways to make that legislation, because it's going to be a complicated one.
00:20:25.340make it a little better so that these things will get through the courts and some of the
00:20:29.160people doing these sorts of things are convicted. It needed an update. I mean, the landscape
00:20:33.360is changing dramatically. And unfortunately, there are some lowlifes who will take images
00:20:39.980of other people. And AI has made it so difficult to distinguish what's real and what's not and
00:20:45.580spread that sort of thing. It's a terrible assault on people. Bringing that legislation up to date
00:20:51.440is is great i'm glad they're doing it and i'm not sure how nancy can come up and oppose this
00:20:57.280it's very difficult how would you stand up in support of being able to make pornographic images
00:21:02.420of uh an intimate partner and putting them out in the public or using ai or children or even you
00:21:09.120know somebody you don't even know uh there's some of the things you know some horrible things could
00:21:14.020be made with nancy's image and put out there as well he could be a victim of these sorts of things
00:21:18.540he's he's getting pushed into a corner and i i think that's part of why i mean the legislative
00:21:25.400paper was was released a few days ago but they waited till yesterday as the session opened to
00:21:29.880drop these two because they're both very difficult issues for the opposition to uh sink their teeth
00:21:36.320into in any sort of way and and uh all i can do is hope that for a change the ndp are responsible
00:21:41.280streamline this bill get it through and help it be a better bill but that's a lot to ask of ninji
00:22:11.000Corey, thanks so much for coming on the show.
00:22:12.480And thanks for your great questions to the Premier.
00:22:15.820Your questions to Ezra unceremonially read by me right after the break.
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00:23:01.620So, on Ezra's trip to Ireland to cover the free speech trials, Frank Vaughn, 1955, writes,
00:23:09.780Thank you, Hugh Fagan, and thank you, Ezra Levant, for what you're doing.
00:23:13.140You're doing the right thing for the right reasons. Without free speech, we don't have a country.
00:23:17.480The fact that Hugh Fagan is being brought to court for sitting peacefully with written signs is an indication that our justice system is broken.
00:23:25.700You know, people often wonder why Ezra goes to England or Ireland to cover these free speech trials or why we send Alexa Lavoie to places like France where out of control immigration is fueling, I think, to some extent, the riots that were happening in the streets there.
00:23:48.900And it's because we got to fight in the first ditch and not the last.
00:23:55.140I think when we look at some of these places, Canada is on that path.
00:24:02.860We may be three to five years behind them.
00:24:06.160But what we're seeing there is a crystal ball into our future.
00:24:11.180And if we don't heed these warnings and look at these places as examples of where we will end up if we don't fight the battles here, then it feels as though all is lost.
00:24:26.540And so what we can do is expose the dark future that Canada will face unless we change course.
00:24:36.820lawrence help in 6611 the process is the punishment thank you rebel news for what you do
00:24:43.040you know that's the thing and it was the thing with tamara leach here in canada too
00:24:48.400they put you through the ringer publicly and extremely not just to punish you for what
00:24:58.440you've done hurting the feelings of the state but to discourage anybody else any other tall
00:25:05.700poppy that might stand above the crowd and say uh not me not today they want to cut you down
00:25:13.360so that anybody else sees you as an example of the devastation you will face if you stand up
00:25:22.260to the state and so that's why at rebel news we try to help people like that either by amplifying
00:25:27.840their voices or hiring lawyers rallying support to their cause we want you to know that when you
00:25:36.340do these things you're not alone and there are other people who maybe are unable to stand up
00:25:44.980but we want to give those people who are unable to stand up the opportunity to help you in some way
00:25:51.000on Anastasia's reporting with Canadians on foreign interference in Ottawa Ruth Bard commented
00:25:57.260a lot of ottawa residents seem to have neurological problems must be the toxic fumes emanating from
00:26:02.120the house of commons ottawa is a strange place and a lot of people there work for the government
00:26:08.700and i'm not saying everybody because i know there are a lot of good people grinding away
00:26:16.500inside the machine of government to try to make it better for the rest of us i know i hear from you
00:26:23.160And so when I say this, I'm not talking about you. But a lot of people who work within the machinery of government, all they care about is that government keeps going as large as possible, and frankly, as ineffective as possible.
00:26:38.880because if government is streamlined you might not have a job and so you don't question the
00:26:46.560problems of government you just hope the behemoth of it lives on forever and so you it's real easy
00:26:53.240to turn a blind eye to certain things we saw this with Justin Trudeau's cabinet and now to a large
00:26:59.200extent Mark Carney's government a lot of those cabinet ministers know that bad things are
00:27:05.140happening but they don't care because it keeps them in cabinet don't speak out you stay in
00:27:09.840cabinet you know who's a great example of this Krista Freeland she leaves government
00:27:15.040then writes a book about how bad Justin Trudeau was sister you had the opportunity to do something
00:27:21.640about it when you were in cabinet but you wanted to hold on to your deputy prime minister position
00:27:27.400you wanted to remain the finance minister and so you never said a thing which makes her of course0.95
00:27:35.020a self-aggrandizing self-preservationist opportunistic ghoul she cared more about1.00
00:27:43.580herself than the people who elected her in the country that she swore to serve you know she0.69
00:27:49.000writes a tell-all book criticizing Justin Trudeau for never meeting with her
00:27:54.320well after she's gone after she's landed in a comfy position in Ukraine yeah thanks thanks for
00:28:01.220nothing lady um and so you know a lot of people who work for government are like that a lot of
00:28:06.500people in cabinet are like that um they don't they don't really see the macro issue of how
00:28:17.640enabling government hurts other people or maybe they do see it but again like christia freeland
00:28:24.680they just don't care because she obviously did see it she saw it enough to write a book0.97
00:28:28.600but she just didn't care at the time because it was about maintaining her position as finance
00:28:36.220minister and her position in cabinet so well everybody i guess that's the show for today
00:28:43.220thank you so much for tuning in thank you for tolerating me as i fill in for ezra i believe
00:28:47.520he's back in the desk tomorrow and uh so we get my sign off instead of his he usually says keep
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