Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is the destruction of our civil liberties a blip or a trend？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I have a question for you. It's hard to know when you're in the middle

00:00:06.100 of something if it's the beginning, middle, or the end. I mean, think of it like a stock on the

00:00:12.240 stock market or a cryptocurrency. If it's going up, is it a blip about to come back down, or is

00:00:18.800 it just the beginning of a trend? You really never know until it's over. So is our diminution

00:00:26.980 of civil liberties? Is that a blip or a trend? And I'll give you a historical analogy with

00:00:34.540 Hitler's slow rise to power. I know that sounds dramatic, but I'll make the case for you. 0.99

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00:01:15.240 Tonight, is the destruction of our civil liberties a blip or a trend? It's October 7th,

00:01:25.600 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:30.220 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:34.020 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:38.120 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my

00:01:42.700 bloody right to do so.

00:01:43.960 Yesterday, Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland announced a terrible series of new discriminations

00:01:55.320 that will affect millions of Canadians.

00:01:57.740 But the mandatory vaccination that's in place immediately for federal employees will look

00:02:03.320 like. The bottom line, proof of vaccination will be required by no later than the end of

00:02:09.580 this month for all federal employees. And by mid-November, enforcement measures in place

00:02:17.260 will make sure that everyone is vaccinated.

00:02:20.120 The same goes for the second commitment we made, mandatory vaccination on travel.

00:02:26.780 By the end of October, everyone 12 or older on a plane or train within Canada should be fully

00:02:33.960 vaccinated.

00:02:35.080 Literally millions of innocent people will be affected, and Trudeau says he wants to make

00:02:39.860 it as onerous as possible for people to get an exemption, even if you have a medical reason.

00:02:45.820 The right thing and gotten vaccinated, you deserve the freedom to be safe from COVID-19, to have

00:02:53.540 your kids safe from COVID, to get back to the things you love. And if you haven't gotten

00:02:59.880 your shots yet, but want to travel this winter, let's be clear. There will only be a few extremely

00:03:07.120 narrow exceptions, like a valid medical condition. For the vast, vast majority of people, the rules

00:03:14.680 are very simple. To travel, you've got to be vaccinated. These travel measures, along with

00:03:21.780 mandatory vaccination for federal employees, are some of the strongest in the world.

00:03:26.900 We're there to foot the bill for provinces and territories that roll out proof of vaccination

00:03:30.980 programs, and we'll introduce legislation to make it a criminal offense to threaten or harass

00:03:36.900 health care workers.

00:03:39.160 Trudeau really doesn't believe in human rights. He never did.

00:03:43.100 There's a level of admiration I actually have for China, because their basic dictatorship

00:03:53.940 is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime.

00:03:58.420 He announced this discrimination based on medical condition, or more precisely, the personal health

00:04:04.940 decision of millions of Canadians that they do not want to undergo a particular medical procedure.

00:04:09.500 It was only just invented a few months ago, namely the injection of a vaccine that's still

00:04:16.400 undergoing clinical trials and has been ordered to undergo clinical trials until 2027, to combat

00:04:22.840 an illness, COVID-19, which millions of Canadians have already contracted and recovered from, and

00:04:28.360 are hence naturally immune to, and because millions of Canadians have chosen not to be part of that

00:04:33.420 great experiment, at least not yet, and because of that, they're being denied vast categories

00:04:39.420 of their civil liberties. In the latest iteration of this, they're being banned from flying on planes,

00:04:44.260 taking trains or ships, working for the civil service. This is on top of existing provincial

00:04:49.380 vaccine mandates, and those of many workplaces and universities and even hospitals.

00:04:54.000 It is, I just find it stunning that in the middle of a purported pandemic, Canadian provincial

00:05:00.340 governments are set to fire more than a hundred thousand nurses, doctors, and other hospital

00:05:04.940 staff. They were all heroes, we were told. Many of them got sick and recovered. They surely

00:05:10.660 know the virus and its risks, and the vaccine and its risks, more than anyone. Certainly more

00:05:16.900 than a childish surfer pothead who doesn't even read his briefing notes. I mean, this guy.

00:05:22.460 Never apologize for standing up for an LGDP, LGT, LGT, LGT, LGBTQ2 plus. 1.00

00:05:34.020 Millions of people, seriously, right now the number is close to 10 million Canadians, have

00:05:38.800 suddenly been denormalized, deplatformed, cancelled, banned, kept out, put as an unclean underclass.

00:05:47.580 Many will be fired, which is a disaster for many people. Many people just a paycheck away from

00:05:52.360 losing their mortgage. And why? Aren't we at 80% injections? Isn't that herd immunity that we

00:05:59.980 were promised? And aren't those people protected now? Why would they even care? If they're safe,

00:06:05.100 which is the promise. Look at this. It's the death rate for the virus across Canada. Extremely

00:06:13.100 low now in Canada. Isn't that what we were worried about? The anomaly is Alberta, but I no longer

00:06:19.120 trust Alberta's reported statistics. Not since their chief health officer said she's now counting

00:06:24.920 illnesses as COVID, even if they have not been diagnosed as COVID.

00:06:30.960 If individuals choose to not get tested for COVID, but are home with an illness,

00:06:36.160 they're now counted in the list as being part of that outbreak.

00:06:41.140 Yeah, sorry, that's literally fake news and cooked statistics. I don't trust her anymore.

00:06:46.760 Not that I really ever did. Look at the two biggest provinces, Ontario and Quebec, death rates

00:06:51.360 are approaching zero. Right as the extreme measures are being introduced, why hasn't the problem been

00:06:57.720 solved? Why are government policies more extreme than ever, even though people are more vaxxed than ever,

00:07:05.540 safer than ever, even though the pandemic is, by all legitimate measurements, over,

00:07:09.940 at least as an emergency. One theory is that so there is no control group. Do you know what I mean

00:07:16.240 by that? If half the population took the vaccines and the other half did not, over time, you could

00:07:21.660 compare health outcomes for those two big groups over the long term. Were there new cases of cancer?

00:07:27.480 Were there genetic problems? Were there problems with pregnancies? Problems like heart disease?

00:07:32.180 If you have one group that took the vaccines and another group that didn't, you could compare them

00:07:36.780 and isolate for that one variable, the vaccines. But if you get rid of the control group, the group

00:07:42.320 that's normal, the default group, the group didn't take the vaccine, you can no longer isolate the vaccine

00:07:46.960 as the variable that caused an illness. Is that why they're trying to get every single person vaxxed?

00:07:53.560 I don't know. I can't think of a more plausible reason.

00:07:58.260 Started out with a trickle. Two weeks to flatten the curve. That was then extended. Then masking rules.

00:08:03.500 And social distancing. Even though the FDA's former commissioner admits social distancing was just

00:08:09.080 made up. Well, it's literally the law now. He admits it was made up. We went from two weeks to

00:08:14.580 flatten the curve to firing thousands of people and demonizing them. I had lunch with a friend

00:08:19.300 yesterday who, when she left, said she couldn't tell her family where she was. Now, I thought

00:08:23.020 it was a political insult, but no. She said it was because she, who is double vaxxed, 0.99

00:08:28.920 if she told her family, who are all double vaxxed, that she had consorted with someone 1.00

00:08:34.460 who was unvaxxed, they wouldn't visit with her. Can you imagine that? That is a mania.

00:08:38.960 That's not science. It's superstition. But that's where we are now as a culture.

00:08:44.360 And taking advantage of that chaos and mania is Justin Trudeau. Never want to miss an opportunity

00:08:49.080 to consolidate power. The greatest civil liberties violation in Canadian history in a sweep of a pen.

00:08:54.780 A far larger scale, 10 million people than Japanese internment or Indian residential schools.

00:09:00.900 An instant apartheid. Dividing an unclean class. Unclean not in a real sense. They're not infected

00:09:08.020 or anything. They're just unclean in a political sense. Political hygiene. They don't have government

00:09:12.400 approval. They don't have Pfizer approval. They're not sick. They just didn't take your medicine.

00:09:18.480 And all this, especially the mass disenfranchisement, made me think of something terrible and personal

00:09:23.360 and permit me to share it with you. You may know I'm Jewish and I grew up in Calgary and I went to a

00:09:29.260 Jewish grade school there. And this was in the 1970s and 80s. And as it happened, the principal

00:09:33.560 of the little school and the Yiddish language teacher, they were married, Ida and Aaron Achler,

00:09:39.020 and they had met in a concentration camp in Europe and they were survivors. And the school taught us

00:09:43.660 about the Holocaust. About the concentration camps. Pictures like these. The Jewish ghetto.

00:09:48.660 But Anne Frank. It was shocking and sobering to learn about this stuff in grade school.

00:09:53.500 So we learned about Adolf Hitler and we learned about how he took power 0.90

00:09:56.300 in stages and consolidated it. I mean, in 1923,

00:10:01.160 he tries a little coup. You know, the Munich Beer Hall Putsch.

00:10:04.320 It didn't work. And he goes to jail and he writes Mein Kampf. And it took him 10 years

00:10:08.740 to win an election, to be appointed chancellor. And then step by step,

00:10:12.720 he destroyed democracy. In 1935, he passed the Nuremberg Laws that banned Jews from various

00:10:19.620 civil rights. A few years later, the Kristallnacht Riots. And the invasion of Czechoslovakia.

00:10:25.920 And then finally, full-scale war in 1939. And even then, I don't know if you know this,

00:10:30.780 the Holocaust didn't really ramp up for another year or two. And in some parts of Europe,

00:10:35.820 like Hungary, it wasn't even really until 1944 that the Holocaust was prosecuted in full.

00:10:42.160 So it was really more than 10 years, this whole thing. And I remember as a kid,

00:10:47.400 I remember learning about this, 1933, 35, 39. And I remember thinking as a kid,

00:10:54.320 why didn't the Jews leave? Why didn't they flee? I mean, couldn't they see it coming? 1.00

00:11:00.840 Now, one answer is there weren't a lot of places to flee to. There weren't a lot of places welcoming

00:11:06.240 Jews as refugees. Even Canada famously turned away a ship of refugees called the St.

00:11:12.120 Louis that went from port to port with only 1,000 Jews on it, trying to find some place 0.69

00:11:16.980 that would take them. Cuba said no. Canada said no. So that's a real fact. But look,

00:11:22.720 that was already in 1939. What about in 1935, where Jewish civil rights were swept away in

00:11:28.860 one sweep? You couldn't marry a Gentile. You couldn't work in certain places. How about 1.00

00:11:33.580 leaving then, 35? Not in a desperate flight as refugees in 1939, but how about calmly leaving 1.00

00:11:39.620 in 1935? Calmly settle your affairs. Calmly sell your house, move your job. Like, not flee,

00:11:45.640 but walk, don't run. I was reading a historical study that showed 15% of all doctors in Germany

00:11:53.380 in 1933 were Jews. That's a lot. And in some fields, like pediatrics, it was actually half 0.91

00:11:59.420 of the doctors were Jews. Half. So just like we're firing 100,000 Canadian doctors and nurses

00:12:05.820 for discriminatory reasons, there were some hospitals in Germany, especially in Berlin,

00:12:11.600 that literally lost half their staff overnight when they banned Jews. I mean, that was 1935.

00:12:18.800 That was a Nuremberg Laws. Wasn't that the time to go? That's what I thought as a child.

00:12:26.860 It's like when you watch a horror movie and a character goes to open a door or enter a room,

00:12:33.220 and there's this dramatic music that you hear, and obviously the character doesn't hear it,

00:12:39.240 and you want to shout out, don't open that door, don't go in that room. But of course he does

00:12:42.620 to his doom. That's why it's a horror movie. But the thing is, you know how the movie is going

00:12:47.080 to go. You know what's behind the door. You can guess. You know you're watching a horror movie.

00:12:52.120 And if you didn't figure it out, the soundtrack would coach you to panic, and so you do. But the

00:12:57.620 character doesn't know he's in a horror movie. He doesn't hear the soundtrack. That's the whole

00:13:02.260 point. He doesn't know. Is it a blip or is it a trend? And in 1933, they didn't know what 1935

00:13:09.480 would bring in. In 1935, the Nuremberg Laws stripping Jews of their civil rights and their right to

00:13:14.080 marry non-Jews and things like that. They didn't know about 1938 yet and the Kristallnacht riots.

00:13:18.860 And in 1938, they didn't yet know about Auschwitz, which wouldn't become a massive death camp,

00:13:23.680 until the early 40s. We see it now as a progression, a trend inevitable. It's so obvious to us now

00:13:29.680 in retrospect because that's how it's ended, and we know how it ended. But in 1933, when it was

00:13:35.520 beginning, who knows? Maybe making Hitler chancellor would calm him down, what with the responsibilities of 0.96

00:13:41.300 governing now. He's not just a speechmaker. He has to run the place. Maybe in 1935, the Nuremberg 0.76

00:13:46.700 Laws would be the worst of it. No death camps for the Jews, just second-class status. Maybe Germans 1.00

00:13:53.120 being good people, liberal people, educated people, modern people would push back. Maybe, maybe, but it

00:13:58.800 never actually happened. I'm not saying we're on the road to concentration camps, but then again,

00:14:03.900 we've already shown that we'll passively, passively abide COVID jails where Canadians are detained

00:14:11.440 for days at the airport. Even if you're healthy, we've seen larger camps in Australia. We've already

00:14:17.520 shown that we'll be jabbed en masse. We've shown that we'll rat out our neighbors. Every government

00:14:23.980 has a snitch line. We've shown that the police have no compunction going after peaceful protesters

00:14:29.380 and the media who cover them. We see that our police have no compunction, arresting and

00:14:35.560 jailing Christian pastors. We've seen that our courts won't stop any of it. In fact, they'll 1.00

00:14:40.840 enforce it. We've seen that our hospitals will fire doctors who speak out with a different

00:14:44.980 opinion. In fact, the College of Physicians and Surgeons will ban those doctors. So yesterday,

00:14:51.740 this massive destruction of our civil rights for a whole class of people, that's just a blip

00:14:57.320 are we going to go back to normal? Or is that a continuing trend that's just going to get

00:15:02.180 worse? I'm not comparing Trudeau to Hitler, even though Trudeau is an authoritarian and a

00:15:08.920 bit of a sociopath too, we've learned. Our media is compliant. All our institutions are. Nothing

00:15:15.080 has pushed back at all. No countervailing force of any kind. So why wouldn't we keep going on

00:15:22.040 a trend, not an anomalous blip? Why would things stop here? Why wouldn't, for example,

00:15:27.680 our police become like Australia's police? That's just one notch further. And just full

00:15:34.660 out declare war against the people. I'm told all of this is very popular in the polls. So

00:15:40.420 was Hitler. Not that they really had polls back then, but he certainly could fill stadiums. 0.92

00:15:44.860 And who's going to stop him? Aaron O'Toole? He didn't have a word to say about yesterday.

00:15:51.720 Not one word. He had a tweet about how much he likes beer. That was his message of the day

00:15:58.000 yesterday. So I ask you, yesterday's civil liberties disaster. Silence, by the way, from

00:16:06.400 the Canadian Civil Liberties Association. Silence from every provincial premier. Every one

00:16:11.180 of them. Silence from the so-called conservative parties. Silence from the courts. Thousands,

00:16:17.800 hundreds of thousands of people are about to be fired. Many of them put into poverty. Distress

00:16:22.380 because of a mad plan. A merger, really, between corporate giants and political giants. Big pharma

00:16:28.400 and big government and big tech and big media. So it was yesterday just a temporary anomaly.

00:16:35.760 Are we really going to return to normal soon? Or is this a trend that will only continue

00:16:41.140 and only get worse? What do you think? Stay with us for more.

00:17:00.640 Welcome back. Well, there's so much going on in Canada. We just had our federal election. And

00:17:05.380 one of the issues that wasn't talked about much during the campaign, but was resolved somewhat

00:17:10.680 short days after the campaign, was the illegal detention, I would say hostage taking, of two

00:17:17.440 Canadians, Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig, for more than a thousand days by China in a brazen

00:17:24.360 reaction or punishment to Canada for arresting the CFO and founder of, daughter of the founder of Huawei,

00:17:34.280 Meng Wanzhou. Even after the two Michaels would return to Canada, Justin Trudeau simply cannot muster

00:17:42.520 any criticism of that country. And diplomacy continues as normal. But China is not acting

00:17:49.640 normally. It's continuing to show aggression, including this past week towards Taiwan in

00:17:55.840 unprecedented ways. In the past week, about 150 Chinese aircraft from the People's Liberation

00:18:04.580 Army Air Force have penetrated Taiwan's airspace, testing and probing Taiwan's response. And more

00:18:12.240 importantly, testing the resolve of the West, especially U.S. President Joe Biden, who perhaps

00:18:20.040 tempted China by showing tremendous weakness in the fall of Afghanistan. Let me show you a tweet from

00:18:26.680 Hu Xijin in Global Times, an English-language Chinese Communist Party propaganda outfit.

00:18:34.760 They say PLA, People's Liberation Army, already has the ability now to liberate Taiwan at one stroke.

00:18:45.480 Why has to wait until 2025? That the mainland hasn't taken the action is a goodwill of Beijing to

00:18:52.640 treasure Cross Straits peace. I worry that the goodwill could be abused by Taiwan and the war is 0.99

00:18:58.800 triggered suddenly. Just shocking comments from the Communist Party trying to normalize and in fact

00:19:06.940 make inevitable the idea of a Chinese invasion. And what does Joe Biden's press secretary have to

00:19:13.920 say about the matter? Well, here's a quick clip of that. What is the White House's interpretation of

00:19:18.800 what China is doing and what can be done to kind of ratchet down their tensions? Well, we remain

00:19:23.680 concerned by the People's Republic of China's provocative military activity near Taiwan, which is

00:19:28.460 destabilizing, risks miscalculations, and undermines a regional peace and stability. We urge Beijing to

00:19:35.260 seize its military, diplomatic, and economic pressure and coercion against Taiwan. And we have an abiding 0.94

00:19:40.460 interest in peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait. That's why we will continue to assist Taiwan in

00:19:45.620 maintaining a sufficient self-defense capability. We maintain our commitments as outlined in the three

00:19:50.340 communiques, Taiwan Relations Act and the six assurances. Our commitment to Taiwan is rock solid and

00:19:56.140 contributes to the maintenance of peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait and within the region. We

00:20:00.940 have been clear privately and publicly about our concern about the PRC's pressure and coercion

00:20:05.740 toward Taiwan. And we will continue to watch the situation very closely. Well, I suppose that's better

00:20:11.420 than nothing, but it's not much. And it's by a spokesman, not by the president himself. What does this all

00:20:17.020 mean? Is an invasion of Taiwan inevitable? If those 150 or so probes turn into an actual attack,

00:20:23.820 what would America do? Joining us now via Skype is our friend Gordon Chang, the author of The Coming

00:20:29.420 Collapse of China. You can follow him on Twitter at Gordon G. Chang. Gordon, great to see you again.

00:20:35.820 I am nervous about this. They are ramping up their testing and probing, not just of Taiwan's air defenses,

00:20:42.220 but of the West's reaction. What do you make of both? Yeah, I agree with you, Ezra. Well, you know,

00:20:48.220 right now there are these unprecedented incursions into Taiwan's air defense identification zone.

00:20:54.860 And although, you know, people talk about invasion, I worry about an accident, you know,

00:20:59.980 something where, you know, two planes come together as they did on April 1st, 2001,

00:21:04.700 when a Chinese jet clipped the wing of a unarmed U.S. Navy reconnaissance plane, the EP-3.

00:21:10.300 There's a couple things going on right now. One of them is that in Beijing, there is political turmoil.

00:21:18.780 We don't know the full extent of it, but clearly Xi Jinping is under attack. And I think that really

00:21:24.940 makes him decide to basically try it on Taiwan, to sort of unify the political system and the Chinese

00:21:32.540 people behind him. But there's that other aspect to it, which you mentioned, and that is the Chinese

00:21:37.900 elite does not think very much of Joe Biden. And we know this because of the fall of Kabul.

00:21:44.140 Chinese propaganda had two narratives. One of them was that because the U.S. couldn't deal with the 0.97

00:21:48.780 Taliban, it certainly couldn't counter China. And also Beijing said that when it invaded Taiwan,

00:21:55.260 that Taiwan would fall within a couple of days and the U.S. wouldn't come to help. Now,

00:22:00.140 I'm not saying that their perception is right, but it doesn't matter what I think. What matters is what

00:22:05.340 they think. And right now they're thinking some pretty dangerous thoughts.

00:22:10.140 Yeah. And you know, it's credible. Taiwan is so far from the United States. It's even far from 0.76

00:22:16.460 Hawaii. It's even far from other U.S. bases in the Pacific. And it's so close to China. And it's

00:22:23.420 geographically a fairly small country. So the idea that it could fall before America could actually

00:22:30.700 muster a strong force in the region. It strikes me as reasonable, as terrifying and as horrific,

00:22:39.100 but that it's pragmatically possible. I do see this flicker of, I don't know, interest. I see American

00:22:46.460 F-35 jets. Those are one of the most modern jets in the American military taking off and landing from a

00:22:54.380 Japanese aircraft carrier. That's something that you don't see every day. That's an interesting

00:23:01.740 show of cooperation. It shows that Japan is very much engaged in defense. Should we ascribe meaning

00:23:07.500 to that? Are there other American aircraft carriers in the region? What could America and Japan and

00:23:15.420 others and Taiwan itself deploy against the PLA, the People's Liberation Army?

00:23:21.420 Yeah, that's an important development that you highlight. And that is, at the moment,

00:23:26.220 there are four big decks, as they say. There's two U.S. aircraft carriers, the Ronald Reagan and

00:23:32.060 the Carl Vincent. There is the U.K.'s only aircraft carrier, the Queen Elizabeth. And then there's a

00:23:37.820 Japanese ship that you mentioned, the Ida. And they are now in probably the South China Sea. They were in

00:23:45.660 the Philippine Sea a day or so ago. And this means it's a show of resolve on the part of the West.

00:23:52.380 And this is more important than the words from Jen Psaki, or even the statement from the State

00:23:57.740 Department on Sunday, which they said they were, quote unquote, very concerned. What we really need

00:24:03.980 to see is the President of the United States actually talk about defending Taiwan. That did not occur.

00:24:11.100 On Tuesday, he said that he spoke to Xi Jinping and that they both agreed to abide by the Taiwan

00:24:16.060 agreement, quote unquote, which no one really knows what Biden means, because that's not a term that's

00:24:21.900 used in official U.S. discourse on Taiwan. So, you know, right now, I think Beijing believes that it

00:24:28.300 can do pretty much what it wants. So we've got to be watching this day by day, especially October 10th,

00:24:34.780 which is Taiwan's national day. Yeah, well, that's coming up very close. I see that Taiwan's 0.62

00:24:41.180 foreign minister has publicly reached out to Australia. I find that interesting because you

00:24:47.020 mentioned the UK has an aircraft carrier nearby. Japan is doing joint operations or exercises with

00:24:54.860 America. Australia is another, you know, it's a fair sized military. It's certainly not as big as China's,

00:25:01.500 but it's not just the military might. It's the fact that there's forming a defensive alliance

00:25:08.300 of countries. That's interesting to me. These are countries who have been in their own way,

00:25:13.020 bullied either economically or diplomatically. It sounds like maybe some good things are happening,

00:25:19.580 even if President Biden himself is inattentive, that maybe other countries together are starting

00:25:26.060 to realize that there's a problem here and that they better defend Taiwan or the rest of them 0.98

00:25:30.860 will be gobbled up. Japan, for instance, has made a number of statements over the last couple of

00:25:36.460 months about how Taiwan is integral to the defense of Japan, which it is because Japan and Taiwan are

00:25:42.380 part of the same island chain. With Australia, there was the announcement of AUKUS, which is Australia,

00:25:50.380 the UK and the US, a security pact. Biden gets an A, I suppose, for strategic decision making. But he also

00:26:00.860 gets an F for implementation because that was rushed into announcement. And because of that, we have a

00:26:09.260 rupture in relations with France, our oldest ally. Right. And really, this means that the United States

00:26:15.900 has made itself less safe by angering our traditional friends in Europe. Yeah, that's very interesting,

00:26:22.460 too. I know they felt left out and cut out of the deal. How about other countries like South Korea and

00:26:30.540 even Vietnam? Are they taking sides? I mean, they're perhaps not as militarily powerful. Is there a growing

00:26:40.300 regional counterweight? Like I think of how Iran forced a number of other small Gulf states and even 0.99

00:26:47.980 Israel into some sort of anti-Iran counterweight? Is that happening with littler countries, too,

00:26:55.580 like Vietnam and Korea? Well, South Korea has taken sides, but they're taking China's side.

00:27:00.860 Really? South Korea has a President Moon Jae-in who is, he might as well be a North Korean communist.

00:27:07.740 Really? Because he certainly governs like one. He's very much closer to Beijing than he is to 0.98

00:27:13.260 Washington. Fortunately, the South Korean people don't agree with him on these issues. But as long 1.00

00:27:18.300 as Moon is President, and that's through the spring of next year, we've got an issue. Vietnam is

00:27:23.660 interesting because they, of course, next to China, they fought a war with China in 1979, which,

00:27:29.900 by the way, they won. And Vietnam has been trying to maintain good relations with both sides,

00:27:36.860 but it has also firm ties with India and Japan. And so Vietnam is very much moving in our direction.

00:27:45.420 You know, Ezra, there's the quad. That's the tie up of India, Australia, Japan, and the United States.

00:27:52.940 And that is an important grouping. But Biden's chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan has really made Indian 0.98

00:28:00.620 policy makers rethink their move towards the U.S. And that is going to be damage that's going to take

00:28:06.460 a long time for the United States to repair, perhaps a decade.

00:28:10.140 Wow. Listen, I've learned so much from you and I always do. And I just want to say to my viewers,

00:28:15.980 if you're not following Gordon on Twitter, please remedy that. He's at Gordon G. Chang. And you'll learn

00:28:22.140 so much and you'll learn it before you read it in the mainstream media. Can I ask you just one last

00:28:27.020 question? And I really don't know much about this, but you mentioned there's turmoil in China. And I

00:28:31.500 keep seeing this word Evergrande, which I take it as a company. And it feels like it may be,

00:28:37.740 I hear it may be their Lehman Brothers or something. I don't understand it. Can you give me and our

00:28:42.540 viewers one minute on what is Evergrande and why is it a crisis for China? Evergrande is China's now

00:28:49.260 second largest property developer. It has $305 billion in debts. It defaulted on its foreign

00:28:58.300 currency loans at the end of last year, although the lenders have yet to declare a default.

00:29:03.580 This could trigger defaults of other property companies. And indeed, one has already defaulted,

00:29:09.260 Fantasia Holdings. Right now, China is sitting on the edge of a debt crisis. And I don't think it can

00:29:16.380 solve it because there's just simply too much debt. They can defer the reckoning, but not for very much

00:29:22.140 longer. So this is an existential crisis for Beijing. Wow. Well, as you said right at the top of our

00:29:28.620 interview, that could be one reason why the dictators want to distract and misdirect. Great to catch up

00:29:36.540 with you. Thank you so much. Again, we're talking with our friend Gordon G. Chang. Follow him on Twitter

00:29:40.540 and read his book, The Coming Collapse of China. Take care, my friend. Thanks for your time.

00:29:45.020 Thank you so much, Ezra.

00:29:46.380 Right on. There you have it. Stay with us. Moran.

00:30:02.060 Hey, welcome back to Some Letters on last night's show. Someone with the name Tyrannosaurus says,

00:30:07.580 all these mandates are illegal. If there are any lawyers willing to fight this injustice,

00:30:11.820 please form up and do it. I can't do my job if I'm imprisoned here by a criminal mandate from our evil

00:30:17.740 PM. Well, that's the thing about laws is they sort of are the definition of legal. That's what legal

00:30:26.300 means. Now, are they unconstitutional? That's a different thing. Because our constitution doesn't

00:30:32.540 ban laws that are stupid or mean or cruel. The constitution only limits the government when their

00:30:39.260 laws are unconstitutional, not when they violate our freedoms, but when they violate our freedoms

00:30:45.740 without a good excuse. That's how our constitution is set up. We have this list of fundamental freedoms,

00:30:50.860 freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of mobility, but they're not absolute.

00:30:55.500 Every one of them is subject to section one of the constitution, which allows the government to infringe

00:31:00.540 them if there is a pressing and substantial concern that's rationally connected to the problem they're

00:31:07.980 trying to solve. By that, I mean, when you declare a state of emergency and every doctor in the country says,

00:31:14.060 oh my God, this is the worst thing ever. Judges are going to say, no, I'm not going to overturn the laws.

00:31:20.620 So you may think they're illegal and I might also, and I might think they're unconstitutional and

00:31:25.100 immoral, but I got to tell you, in a year and a half, there's not been a single judge in Canada

00:31:31.820 who agrees with you. And I know that's very pessimistic and very hopeless to say that. And we're not

00:31:39.020 hopeless. We're still going to sue. We've started fightvaccinepassports.com in concert with the

00:31:44.780 democracy fund. We are going to sue. But I'm afraid we are on this path.

00:31:51.660 Someone with the name Foxfam says, remember when they didn't block travel into Canada because it

00:31:56.060 was racist? But now he's created a full-out medical apartheid in Canada. I've never felt so hated or

00:32:01.820 endangered by my government. Yeah, that's what's so incredible is that this has just disenfranchised in

00:32:08.220 the most literal sense. Millions of Canadians who have done nothing wrong their entire lives,

00:32:14.300 who were successes in their field from the highest to the lowest. If you simply refuse to get jabbed in

00:32:21.580 some experimental medicine to an overhyped pandemic, you won't just be fired. You'll be forced to live

00:32:29.500 as a pariah. Fox 202 says, I have no idea how he convinced the public that it's okay to go this

00:32:36.620 far with it, when regardless of being vaccinated or not, you can still get spreading carry COVID.

00:32:41.580 There's clearly way more to this than a virus, yet so many people can't see it. So sad to see that

00:32:46.300 people can be tricked so easily into believing something that makes absolutely no sense. The

00:32:50.940 only thing getting flattened is people's wallets and the economy. Well, I don't know if they were

00:32:55.900 tricked, but the problem is we don't have any opposition. As I said in my monologue today,

00:33:00.940 the leader of the opposition not only didn't say a word against forced vaccines during the whole

00:33:04.940 campaign, but he didn't say anything even yesterday when they were enacted. He had a tweet about enjoying

00:33:12.220 beer. And what media, other than alternative independent media like us, are squawking about it?

00:33:19.820 So that's why. I mean, Maxime Bernier, give the guy credit, but he didn't even have a seat himself.

00:33:25.740 Either before or after the election. We're in dark days, my friends. We'll keep fighting. It's all we

00:33:29.900 know how to do. I like to end these days by showing you a video. If you want to see

00:33:36.380 the time machine, look a few months or years into our future.

00:33:41.580 Look to Australia. Here's our Australia correspondent, Avi Amini, who is being stopped by police and harassed

00:33:48.460 for his papers. The only thing missing is the German accent and the German uniforms. We really are on that

00:33:54.700 road, aren't we? I'll let you go with that video. It's a great video. But before I do, let me thank

00:34:00.700 you for watching. And on behalf of all of us here to you at home, good night and keep fighting for

00:34:05.580 freedom. Well, I'm here to discuss your right to be here. I appreciate that you're reporting on behalf

00:34:11.340 of the media, but there is criteria that has to be met for people to be in the city today.

00:34:15.340 Yep. Do you have a worker's permit? Absolutely, mate. Third time's a charm. How many times are you guys

00:34:20.540 going to... Can you send a message out once I show you it that I've showed it three times and we're good?

00:34:27.580 You know what we do well at Rebel News?

00:34:29.340 Cover yourself.

00:34:32.860 We're just going to record them. Obviously, it's what we do. You've got to record my details, mate.

00:34:35.820 You and I both know my details. You probably know my details better than I know my details.

00:34:39.820 These people don't.

00:34:40.460 Yeah, no, I'm sorry.

00:34:41.100 I'll just keep you recording all.

00:34:43.100 Yeah, yeah, we've done everything.

00:34:44.140 Oh, you got it all?

00:34:44.700 Yeah, there you go.

00:34:45.980 Yeah, these guys are all right. You should keep them.

00:34:47.500 Is that this gentleman's?

00:34:49.420 Is that your one? Did you give me that one?

00:34:51.820 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:52.620 You see, this is all right. We don't mind.

00:34:54.460 When they come up respectfully and check your papers like they did in Nazi Germany, 0.62

00:35:02.060 we're cool with that. It's just when they unlawfully arrest and assault

00:35:08.620 us and our staff, that's when there's a problem.

00:35:11.580 Can I just take a look at yours again, Arby? Sorry.

00:35:13.980 We just need to have a look. This one seems to be expired.

00:35:16.860 Your new security.

00:35:20.300 Past your date?

00:35:21.020 I thought it went 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, is my understanding.

00:35:26.700 So just ask and call the security company, tell them to send you a new one now?

00:35:29.740 Yeah, I can easily just get a new one sent out, but I thought it was...

00:35:35.340 But yours doesn't have a roster or schedule of workers, does it?

00:35:37.340 No, it says all weeks.

00:35:39.340 That's ongoing, all weeks.

00:35:43.420 Do you want me to tick it? It's me that signs it.

00:35:46.700 Well, it is me that signs it.

00:35:47.900 That's just masks rules, just in case, because I've noticed some of your officers need the education.

00:35:54.300 I reckon I should be giving classes at VicPol Academy. I'm willing to donate my time.

00:36:00.620 Too kind.

00:36:01.020 That was a misunderstanding on my part.

00:36:03.580 Where's the...

00:36:04.620 All weeks, he said, I've got to just tick that box, but it's all weeks those times.

00:36:08.620 Yeah.

00:36:09.580 So I've just got to... Have you got a pen? I'm the one that filled that for him.

00:36:11.900 I'm happy to tick that for him.

00:36:13.100 Okay. You do that for me.

00:36:16.380 Listen, these paperwork, it gets very confusing.

00:36:19.340 Paperwork's all our job.

00:36:21.660 No, it isn't. These days it's also arresting, unarmed.

00:36:25.020 Come on.

00:36:27.100 I'm good to see... I'm happy to see you guys without any rubber bullet gun today.

00:36:30.300 I'll take your pens out, I'm going to charge with theft.

00:36:34.620 I don't have that too much.

00:36:35.500 You're alright, I like you.

00:36:37.900 This is the ludicrousy of it all. They know exactly why I'm here.

00:36:41.900 They know it's legitimate purpose.

00:36:44.060 What they're checking out is if there's a technicality on the paperwork, can it be fixed?

00:36:52.540 Anyways, I'll call the lawyer because we might as well get that sorted now.

00:36:55.500 You've got a lawyer working on a server, eh?

00:36:57.740 Well, you know, you guys are funny, so I need a lawyer 24-7 with you guys.

00:37:03.820 They like to play those old tricks, finding those technicalities.

00:37:06.860 Sipping lattes right now, wouldn't they?

00:37:08.460 How you doing, Madeline?

00:37:09.900 The police here are so surprised that they'll have a lawyer on standby on a Saturday.

00:37:14.620 They're impressed.

00:37:15.740 My lawyer's on the phone, she just wants to know what's the issue with that one.

00:37:18.620 We just need to confirm that they're all valid.

00:37:20.460 They seem to be incomplete to me.

00:37:22.220 So we're just getting someone down here who's aware of these and how they need to be filled in to check them out.

00:37:26.300 And then once that's done, we'll just confirm it to your lawyer.

00:37:28.700 So you're saying to me, you're so confused by these permits that you don't know how it works.

00:37:32.700 Just getting someone down to confirm it all.

00:37:34.300 And we're expected to fill them out.

00:37:36.540 He's got to get an expert.

00:37:37.980 Did you hear that, Madeline?

00:37:39.100 She advises that basically, if you believe it's legit and there's a problem with the way we filled it out,

00:37:44.620 we're happy to fill it, fix it.

00:37:45.900 Get back there shortly.

00:37:47.180 That was good?

00:37:47.740 Yeah, it was good.

00:37:48.380 Oh, that was good the whole time?

00:37:49.740 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:49.980 Or they just mucked with you?

00:37:52.540 Alright, no worries.

00:37:53.500 Daniel's was actually kosher.

00:37:54.940 It was, it's, I think the academy needs some training on these papers.

00:38:01.420 I think we might need to educate them.

00:38:02.780 I offered my services.

00:38:04.060 Anyways, I'll speak to you.

00:38:05.420 Bye.

00:38:08.780 So yours was cool?

00:38:09.660 Yeah, mine's good.

00:38:10.540 I think mine's fine as well.

00:38:11.900 I just got to tick that box.

00:38:13.020 Do you want me to tick that box?

00:38:13.820 I counted mine correctly.

00:38:17.180 Big man.

00:38:17.740 I'm happy to tick that box and then it's complete.

00:38:22.860 It's just fine.

00:38:23.500 Look, they've called in a specialist in their specialist vehicle,

00:38:27.180 unmarked police vehicle, to make sure that our paperwork is kosher.

00:38:31.660 This is because science.

00:38:35.660 The science says that if your permit isn't ticked in the right box, things can get deadly.

00:38:43.100 They're really trying hard to invalidate those permits.

00:38:46.940 How you going officer?

00:38:48.540 Boss?

00:38:48.860 So they're satisfied with that, so that's fine.

00:38:50.700 They're satisfied, oh.

00:38:51.420 Okay, so there's your worker's permit.

00:38:53.020 So who, just so I know from my own reference, who, who, which specialist division made sure

00:38:58.460 that this is kosher?

00:38:59.180 So I can, I can speak to the next person who stops me.

00:39:01.660 It's from our prosecutions, our legal people.

00:39:03.500 Oh, the legal, oh, they know me well, we're on first name basis.

00:39:06.060 So you got your worker's permit, um, you're free to go, that's fine.

00:39:09.340 Um, obviously you know not to get in our way if things do get in.

00:39:12.540 We know that better than anyone.

00:39:13.660 All right, thanks, Avi, have a good day.

00:39:14.780 No worries.

00:39:15.180 So that took 20 minutes for the police to verify and validate that our worker's permit

00:39:19.420 are legit, even though they knew it, know exactly what we're doing here.

00:39:22.300 They have to call the specialist legal department of Victoria Police to confirm it.

00:39:26.780 I have a feeling it was really just to hold us up so we can't get to doing our job.

00:39:31.820 Maybe that's, maybe we should charge them with hindering a journalist.

00:39:34.860 But here we go.

00:39:35.820 We're going to continue our work.

00:39:37.420 Let's go to the protest.

00:39:45.180 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - October 08, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is the destruction of our civil liberties a blip or a trend？

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