Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is Trudeau actually going to get rid of ArriveCAN？

00:00:00.120 Hello, my friends. You know the Arrive Can app. What an invasion of privacy. It really is spyware,

00:00:07.960 malware that the government forces on you. Looks like the Liberal Party's thinking of

00:00:13.380 abandoning it, or at least making it non-mandatory. Now I'll believe it when I see it, but I'll take

00:00:17.300 you through the evidence and my thoughts on it. And then we'll talk about a crazy case

00:00:21.200 in Kansas City, Missouri, where a 10-year-old child, well, you know what? I won't tell it now.

00:00:26.960 I'll let the family tell it, and our reporter on the scene, Jeremy Lafredo. But first, let me

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00:01:16.600 Tonight, is the Trudeau government actually going to get rid of the Arrive Can app?

00:01:20.840 It's September 22nd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:27.180 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:39.120 Have you ever read the fine print in your passport? There's not a lot of it, actually.

00:01:43.960 Maybe you have read it once when you were killing time in an airport, or more likely,

00:01:49.300 maybe you have in the last two years as your freedom of mobility was infringed by the Trudeau

00:01:55.360 government. The whole passport, it's actually a wonderful document. It took me months, but I got

00:02:00.760 mine renewed this summer. What an atrocious mess that whole thing was and still is. Did you know

00:02:06.080 that as of the summer, at least, a majority of passport staff were still working from home

00:02:11.180 because of the pandemic? I'm serious. No wonder the backlog was months and months, and panicky

00:02:16.740 travelers who had to leave soon were camped outside of passport offices, waiting hours or even days

00:02:22.400 to get theirs filled for urgent travel. Pierre Polyev was right when he said the government that

00:02:27.060 can't even run a passport office wants to run your life so pitiful. But I finally got mine,

00:02:32.520 and it's actually a beautiful document. On every page in the inside where you get it stamped

00:02:37.600 is another image of a Canadian moment or theme, sports, industry, scenery. It's actually beautifully

00:02:43.560 done, and though there's an electronic chip in the cover of the passport, it is still largely an

00:02:49.560 old-fashioned document. It's a little book with a pretty tough cover, pocket size. They really want to

00:02:55.520 get rid of it, just like they want to get rid of other physical things like cash, or instead they

00:03:00.660 want to put microchips in cash like they have with the passport. They really want to destroy the old

00:03:04.820 customs and beauty of it. But back to the very first page in the passport, which is really the

00:03:11.040 whole thing in a nutshell. That first page, I'll read it to you. The Minister of Foreign Affairs of

00:03:17.940 Canada requests in the name of Her Majesty the Queen, all those whom it may concern, to allow the

00:03:23.660 bearer to pass freely without delay or hindrance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection

00:03:29.540 as may be necessary. That's it. 46 words, one sentence. It's all you need. The Queen says the

00:03:35.900 person who holds this book is a Canadian. Please let them pass freely. New passports, I presume,

00:03:42.860 will now say King instead of Queen. Now, whether or not other countries do let the bearer pass without

00:03:48.440 hindrance is a matter of politics and international relations, but when it comes to our own country,

00:03:53.680 the Queen, now the King, is the personification of the state. She is superior to any politician or to

00:04:00.160 Parliament, and she says if you have this passport, you can come home without delay or hindrance. It's

00:04:06.440 a mighty thing. I mean, Trudeau himself once believed that. He said that even if you're a terrorist, he said,

00:04:13.840 even if you've committed terrorist murder and rape overseas, you can still come back to Canada.

00:04:18.880 Remember when he said that?

00:04:20.480 This was a bill, flip forward, by a member of Parliament who is himself an immigrant, Devinder Shory.

00:04:26.880 This is not the standards we expect. Immigrants, Canadians, all of us who are here expect that we would have

00:04:32.660 a minimum bar that people would not, people who come here would not be guilty of trying to plan

00:04:38.060 terrorist attacks against this country.

00:04:40.120 The individual in question, Mr. Trudeau, you devalue the citizenship of every Canadian

00:04:47.780 in this place and in this country when you break down and make it conditional for anyone.

00:04:53.980 We have the rule of law in this country, and you can't take away citizens like someone does.

00:05:01.080 It's awful how much he loves terrorists, but there is some truth to his argument.

00:05:04.860 Even our criminals are still citizens. Quite something that he would insist on the rights

00:05:11.240 of terrorists to come into Canada, but not the rights of unvaccinated people.

00:05:15.760 Now, don't get me wrong. If you are unvaxxed, you can come into the country, but not quite.

00:05:22.080 Certainly not without delay or hindrance, am I right?

00:05:25.820 Because you have to fill out that infernal Arrive Can app now.

00:05:30.300 I've never done it because I have not left the country since the before times.

00:05:34.540 Unlike Omar Khadr, the al-Qaeda terrorist, I am on the no-fly list in terms of foreign flying.

00:05:39.820 I can fly domestically in Canada now, but I can't go to the U.S., and if I were to go there,

00:05:46.260 I'd have to quarantine for two weeks upon return to Canada, which I cannot afford to do, of course.

00:05:50.780 But let me show you what the app looks like.

00:05:53.700 Here is a two-minute propaganda video by the Canadian government describing the app

00:05:59.520 in the most positive way they can.

00:06:01.440 Are you planning to travel to Canada?

00:06:05.900 If you are traveling by air, land, or water, you are required to provide essential information

00:06:11.040 before you arrive using Arrive Can.

00:06:14.960 Arrive Can is a user-friendly digital tool to help travelers comply with Canada's border measures

00:06:20.460 quickly and securely. It is available as a mobile app or by signing in online.

00:06:26.080 Within the 72 hours before your arrival in Canada, or before boarding a cruise ship destined

00:06:31.900 for Canada, you must use Arrive Can to submit your contact and travel details, including where

00:06:37.920 you've been and where you're going, your COVID-19 vaccination information, your pre-entry COVID-19

00:06:45.280 test results, and your quarantine plan. You may be exempt from some of these requirements.

00:06:50.960 If you are a fully vaccinated traveler, you must submit your proof of vaccination in Arrive Can

00:06:59.840 to be considered exempt from certain public health requirements.

00:07:04.240 You must be ready to show your Arrive Can receipt to your airline carrier, cruise operator,

00:07:09.800 and to border officials when seeking entry into Canada.

00:07:15.180 After entering Canada, travelers who are required to quarantine or isolate must confirm that they

00:07:20.620 have arrived at their place of quarantine or isolation. During their quarantine period,

00:07:25.240 travelers must provide a daily COVID-19 symptom self-assessment. This must be done through Arrive

00:07:31.000 Can or by calling the toll-free number. Use Arrive Can by signing in online at Canada.ca

00:07:38.360 slash Arrive Can or by downloading the latest version of the mobile app through Google Play or the Apple

00:07:44.720 App Store. For more information, including whether you're eligible to enter Canada, call

00:07:50.380 1-833-283-7403 or visit Canada.ca slash Arrive Can.

00:07:58.180 Now, it's a lie to say it is easy to do. It's just a lie. Reports from various border crossings say up to

00:08:04.880 half of people cannot do it, can't do it properly. Just the glitches or they don't know how. If you don't

00:08:11.260 have a smartphone, you can't do it at all. Obviously, if you're overseas and can't get online, you can't do it.

00:08:16.380 People from all over the world have to do it, but the app is only in English and French and I think maybe

00:08:21.620 Spanish too. It's not in Chinese or German or Arabic or whatever other language people speak coming to

00:08:26.540 Canada. Maybe you saw that story about a whole Boy Scout troop stranded overseas. Here's a CTV

00:08:32.880 propaganda story trying to spin it. Young Scouts stuck in Zurich after missing Air Canada flight to Toronto.

00:08:40.440 But that's not really the story, is it? It's not until you're deep into the story that you

00:08:45.820 get what should have been the lead when you realize they didn't miss their flight. They were there on

00:08:50.340 time. They didn't do anything wrong at all. In fact, it was the Arrive Can app. Let me quote.

00:08:55.760 But on their way home, the Bancroft contingent faced challenges with the Arrive Can app. The leaders

00:09:02.160 had entered the group's information on the app, but when they arrived at the airport, they discovered

00:09:06.900 only the information for the two adults was logged. They also couldn't get Wi-Fi at the airport because

00:09:12.920 they didn't have a local phone number. Unpossible! The propaganda video said it was so easy to do.

00:09:21.000 But back to the passport. These were Canadian citizens. They were children. They had to be 1.00

00:09:26.280 treated carefully. Imagine stranding children overseas. What happened to without delay or hindrance?

00:09:32.760 What happened to that part? But here's the thing. If they were in Toronto at the airport border desk

00:09:39.400 or if they were at a border crossing by land, they actually could come into Canada even without the

00:09:45.560 Arrive Can app. The government might hector them or badger them or lecture them about taking tests

00:09:50.740 or quarantining at home. The government might try and boss them around for sure, but they would legally

00:09:55.800 be entitled to enter the country. They're Canadian citizens. But what Trudeau did, and this is so

00:10:01.020 atrocious and so unforgivable, is that he ordered Canadian airlines to enforce this app for him.

00:10:07.780 That's what happened to the Boy Scouts. They had to show Air Canada that they filled out the app or

00:10:12.780 Air Canada wouldn't let them on the plane. Now, obviously, this isn't Air Canada's idea. They're

00:10:17.560 not interested in bullying their passengers. They're not border guards. They're not health officials.

00:10:21.560 But Trudeau said to Air Canada and to WestJet and other Canadian airlines that if they didn't

00:10:27.120 enforce his app, he would fine and punish that airline too. Imagine how evil that is. You will

00:10:33.840 be stranded from your own country, forbidden from getting on a plane to your own country unless you 0.98

00:10:39.760 fill out some bloody app. They actually can't stop you from coming into the country once you're at the 1.00

00:10:44.460 border if you can make it to the border. But they have commandeered the airlines, making them the

00:10:49.300 enforcers. And it's one thing for you to get a fine for not filling out paperwork, but physically

00:10:55.320 stopping you from coming back to your country by bullying Air Canada into bullying you. That is

00:11:00.340 outrageous. That is illegal. That is vengeful. That is unscientific. And so utterly on brand for

00:11:05.580 Justin Trudeau and his immoral war against anyone who dares to defy him.

00:11:10.040 Oui, on va s'en sortir de cette pandémie par la vaccination. Puis on en connaît tous des gens qui sont

00:11:15.880 en train d'hésiter un petit peu. On va continuer d'essayer de les convaincre. Mais il y a aussi des gens qui sont

00:11:20.740 farouchement opposés à la vaccination. Ils sont extrémistes. Qui ne croient pas dans la science, qui sont

00:11:25.700 souvent misogynes, souvent racistes aussi. C'est un petit groupe, mais qui prend de la place. Et là, il faut

00:11:34.420 faire un choix en tant que leader, en tant que pays. Est-ce qu'on tolère?

00:11:39.160 I showed you that's happening. I showed you the Boy Scouts. There are countless other stories I've

00:11:44.200 read and people I've spoken to personally telling me their stories, how they were not allowed on the

00:11:49.240 plane because the planes are scared of Trudeau punishing them. One lady told me she was coming

00:11:53.920 back to Canada on WestJet. WestJet refused to let her board without the Arrive Can app, so she had to

00:11:59.920 buy another ticket, last minute, extremely expensive, on a foreign-based airline because they don't follow

00:12:08.120 Trudeau's bullying orders. So it's happening. But look at the lie right there on the app. If you go

00:12:15.240 to the App Store, this is how the app describes itself. Travelers with a right to enter Canada,

00:12:20.760 such as Canadian citizens, will not be denied boarding of their flight or entry to Canada if

00:12:25.480 they do not use Arrive Can. Well, that's a lie. A thousand times it's been proved a lie. They are

00:12:30.680 liars. So Trudeau is forcing the airlines to violate not only the passport, but our essential

00:12:36.200 rights as Canadians, we have to answer some questions at the border and whether or not

00:12:40.440 there are quarantine rules to follow or the foolishness of testing yourself for two weeks

00:12:45.080 without a folly. Let's put all those things aside because none of that goes to whether

00:12:48.440 you can or can't enter your own country, right? Trudeau is literally banning you from your country

00:12:55.400 unless you fill out his spyware app. He won't let you even get to Canada. You know what spyware is,

00:13:00.280 right? It's like an app that spies on you, that gets details about you. That is explicitly what

00:13:07.640 this is. In fact, it forces you to give data, but it's also malware. Do you know what that word means?

00:13:13.560 Software that's malicious. And that's what this Arrive Can is. It's not just invading your privacy. It's

00:13:19.960 giving your secret private data to bad actors, to lobbyists, to hucksters, to drug companies,

00:13:26.120 to foreign governments, anyone Trudeau wants to. It's unlimited really. They literally can give it

00:13:31.160 to anyone they want. This is again from the App Store. Personal information may be disclosed to

00:13:39.000 contractors working for the Public Health Agency of Canada and Service Canada, as well as the following

00:13:44.600 entities, other government institutions, as well as provincial, territorial, municipal governments,

00:13:49.480 or international health organizations, as well as their institutions for these purposes. That is

00:13:55.080 an unlimited list for an unlimited set of reasons. And according to Apple, and it's the same on the

00:14:03.880 Android store, this privacy policy is just what Trudeau told them. Let me quote,

00:14:09.960 this information has not been verified by Apple, so it could be much worse.

00:14:14.520 And here, this is from the app also. I didn't download the app, I was just reading the privacy policy.

00:14:18.920 This is so key. Remember in the propaganda video,

00:14:21.400 they said you had to answer some questions. And those are bad enough. But look at what

00:14:28.520 this app will extract from your cell phone, without asking you.

00:14:35.320 Anything in your phone's health and fitness information. Did you see that?

00:14:40.200 Now my phone is an Apple, and it's attached to my Apple Watch, which has a great deal of information

00:14:45.560 about me from my heart rate, to when I exercise, and where it's attached to my GPS, so it knows where

00:14:52.280 I am. So how much I exercise, any health info I type in, it just steals that. Unrelated to anything.

00:15:01.400 And it gives it to Trudeau's lobbyists, or contractors, or China, or literally whoever they want.

00:15:06.760 But now come rumors that Trudeau will end the mandatory use of a ride can.

00:15:13.960 And perhaps end some of the other punishments too. Now the rumors are all published by the media

00:15:18.280 party, the Toronto Star, the CBC. So they're obviously regurgitating what the regime wants

00:15:23.160 them to say. Probably Trudeau testing the waters to see how the public health deep state will react to 0.74

00:15:28.760 this. All of the stories note that Trudeau himself hasn't finally signed off on the change. I mean,

00:15:34.360 he's pretty busy, give him a break, between singing Queen songs in bars in London, and now he's partying

00:15:42.280 in New York with Jacinda Ardern, and then he's off to Japan for another funeral. Hopefully he won't

00:15:47.400 do any karaoke when he's down there, cause yet another international incident. So it might be

00:15:51.880 hard to pin down this jet setter for a moment to actually do some work. Sorry about that.

00:15:57.560 Everyone seems to think Arrive Can will be shelved as soon as next week, and of course I hope it will be.

00:16:01.960 But I'm also a bit skeptical because if you look at Arrive Can as a health measure,

00:16:07.720 of course it should be scrapped. It's ridiculous. I mean, even sleepy Joe Biden knows the pandemic is

00:16:12.520 over. Mr. President, first Detroit auto show in three years. Yeah. Is the pandemic over?

00:16:19.480 The pandemic is over. We still have a problem with COVID. We're still doing a lot of work on it.

00:16:25.720 It's, but the pandemic is over. If you notice, no one's wearing masks. Everybody seems to be in

00:16:31.480 pretty good shape. And so I think it's changing, and I think this is a perfect example. The whole

00:16:36.840 world is over it now, not just Florida. It's a joke now. Wearing a mask now is a joke. Imagine

00:16:42.280 quarantining for two weeks, even if you're not sick, even if your test says you're not. It's never been

00:16:47.480 about health. It's not about health. It has never been about health. So if you think that this might

00:16:52.760 be ended for health reasons, you are missing the whole point. The app was not made to deal with

00:16:59.480 COVID. It's the other way around. COVID was the excuse used to justify the app. The app isn't the

00:17:06.840 means to the end. It is the end result itself. It's what they want. COVID was the excuse to justification.

00:17:12.360 Just ask the World Economic Forum's deep thinker, Yuval Noah Harari.

00:17:17.240 And COVID is critical because this is what convinces people to accept, to legitimize

00:17:25.960 total biometric surveillance. If we want to stop this epidemic, we need not just to monitor people,

00:17:33.800 we need to monitor what's happening under their skin. That's why I'm not 100% convinced Trudeau will

00:17:39.160 give up a Ravcat first because he hates the unvaccinated and anyone else who ever opposes 0.99

00:17:44.200 him. He says as much. Would you support policies that prioritize

00:17:49.240 vaccinated patients over those who are unvaccinated who are in there because they made that choice?

00:17:55.640 I have heard from healthcare professionals across the country who are, as we know, exhausted from the

00:18:04.760 past year and a half, who are worried about their own loved ones, who are working incredibly hard

00:18:13.000 to keep all Canadians safe, whether they're vaccinated or unvaccinated, but who are expressing

00:18:20.200 increasing frustration and little bits of anger that they are spending so much of their time

00:18:27.560 trying to save people who could have saved themselves. And now is the time for people who are still

00:18:38.360 resistant to getting vaccinated to realize that that choice, which has consequences on putting our

00:18:46.440 kids at risk, which has consequences at having us risk more lockdowns because they haven't chosen to get

00:18:55.560 vaccinated yet, that there will be consequences for those people in not being able to go to a gym or a

00:19:03.720 restaurant, not being able to go to a movie theater, not being able to get on a train or a plane.

00:19:09.880 You don't want to comment on the triage because it's a provincial jurisdiction, but so are movies,

00:19:15.000 so are gyms, all of those types of things. And you also say you look pretty angry about it,

00:19:20.440 that they're putting kids and people who are vulnerable at risk. Are they not putting some

00:19:28.040 people who may not get the treatment they need in hospitals at risk? And yes, we can all say to a

00:19:35.800 certain extent that it is unfortunate that people who chose not to get vaccinated are now the ones

00:19:47.080 clogging up our ICU systems and our hospital beds that should be available for people who did

00:19:55.080 their work and did get vaccinated. That is really unfortunate. And that is why we are unequivocal.

00:20:01.320 They don't get to put others at risk by not getting vaccinated.

00:20:04.840 But second, Trudeau is fully on board with China style social credit, tracking you, spying on you,

00:20:10.840 punishing you. He doesn't want to give that up. Now, I hope this all ends next week, but even

00:20:16.200 if they do end it, don't think they wouldn't try and bring it back in if they could. Stay with us for more.

00:20:34.600 I think the most terrifying thing of the pandemic has been not just that adults were forced to get

00:20:41.560 the jab, but children were forced to on pain of being kicked out of school or even worse,

00:20:48.120 marginalized, demonized. Children were the victims in so many ways of forced masking.

00:20:55.560 And this story I'm about to tell you is about children actually being, well, I think kidnapped is

00:21:03.480 the most accurate way of describing it. A young child named Evelyn in Kansas City, Missouri, brought

00:21:11.480 to the hospital by her family. And when they started to ask questions about the treatment,

00:21:17.800 they were told she no longer, they no longer had authority over her. And they were looking to bring

00:21:23.960 in authorities as in police to physically stop the child from leaving with the parents. Instead of my

00:21:30.120 secondhand telling the story, let me now introduce you to Jeremy Lafredo, our New York based correspondent

00:21:35.400 who spent the last few days in Kansas City meeting with the family and the lawyers. Jeremy, great to

00:21:41.000 see you again. You're always doing interesting work. I want to make sure I've accurately described what is

00:21:47.400 happening to Evelyn and her parents. Why don't you give us a summary? I want to make sure we get this

00:21:52.360 just exactly factually accurate. Sure. Yeah, this is a harrowing story out of Kansas City, Missouri.

00:21:59.880 We have the Children's Mercy Hospital. It's one of the most prestigious children's research hospitals

00:22:06.680 in the Midwest. And they've been accused time and time again by different families of, you know,

00:22:13.320 they're calling it, quote, medical kidnapping. Now, what is medical kidnapping? It's when a family

00:22:18.520 brings their child to the doctor or to the hospital. And once the family, you know, disagrees with the

00:22:24.280 treatment or has questions or concerns or, you know, is a, you know, sufficient advocate for the

00:22:29.000 child, the hospital calls child protective services or, you know, the state and they get involved and

00:22:35.000 they no longer have custody over their own children. This is what we call medical kidnapping.

00:22:40.760 So this is what's happening to a 10 year old Evelyn Young in Kansas City. Her family brought her in

00:22:46.680 because she had a swollen face and a swollen tummy. And after the hospital tried a few things,

00:22:52.920 they tried a pharmaceutical treatment that actually made Evelyn go temporarily blind 1.00

00:22:57.800 and caused encephalopathy, which is the swelling of the brain. So the family was, you know, very upset,

00:23:05.320 very angry at this. And when they told the hospital that they disagreed with the treatment is when

00:23:09.720 child protective services was called. So right now they're in a legal battle for the custody of their

00:23:14.120 own daughter, which they brought to the hospital because they were concerned for her health. And

00:23:19.560 Rebel News actually got involved. We got involved. We went to Kansas City.

00:23:23.800 We're helping the, we're trying to help the family get back custody of their child

00:23:29.320 at SaveEvelyn.com. You can go there and you can donate to their legal fund. We're going to try to

00:23:35.240 help them get the child back. And you can sign a petition, which I'm actually going to personally bring

00:23:40.040 to the hospital's board of directors, which I've looked. There's some conflicts of interest. They

00:23:43.800 have some pharmaceutical companies on there and some, some federal agencies on there. I'm going to

00:23:48.120 bring it to the, um, the board of directors and we're going to try to get Evelyn back. 0.98

00:23:51.560 All right. Well, you've said a lot of things. So I want to talk in a moment about the campaign

00:23:55.560 we're doing. I personally have spoken with Evelyn's mom and I've had a detailed conversation with

00:24:02.600 a lawyer right there in Kansas City, Missouri, who has been engaged by the family. And I can confirm

00:24:09.560 what you've just said, Jeremy, that we have signed an agreement. We will cover the legal bills for this

00:24:17.400 family to get their daughter out. In a moment, we're going to get to what we're going to do in

00:24:22.200 the campaign, the petition and the lawyering. But first I want to show a clip from when you,

00:24:28.040 Jeremy, were in Kansas City, Missouri, and we're talking with the young family.

00:24:32.440 When we tried to take Evelyn out, I had like, you know, legal wording written out on a paper,

00:24:37.400 even like memorized so that I could say like, we do have the right. She's non-emergent. 0.97

00:24:41.400 She, her vitals are stable. So you don't have a right to like claim her. Where we were stationed,

00:24:47.480 um, in the hospital, there was a little, there was a little boy who needed an armed guard there.

00:24:52.440 And so the guard was there all the time because of that boy. And as soon as he heard we wanted to

00:24:57.080 take her out, I may, he stood up from his thing. I was like, yep, this is not going to go well.

00:25:02.840 I know they're not going to let us leave, even though we have a legal right to get her a second

00:25:06.920 opinion. And because her vitals were stable and she was non-emergent, we had a legal right to take

00:25:12.360 her out, not just like file for one and do it online or whatever. The Young's questioning of

00:25:17.960 Children's Mercy Hospital procedures and the destructive treatment the hospital was giving their daughter 0.97

00:25:22.600 was regarded by the hospital officials as disregard for medical professionals and therefore

00:25:26.840 an endangerment to their own daughter, Evelyn. The hospital didn't let the family leave

00:25:31.160 and place an armed guard in the room. So guards stood in our way. One even like slammed his foot

00:25:37.000 down it, um, into the wheelchair, um, so that we couldn't leave like with my 10 year old in the

00:25:42.520 wheelchair. Like he was the worst. They was like, let us just give us a minute and we'll like print off

00:25:47.720 the paperwork for you. And I was immediately like, they're getting a social worker. I know they're

00:25:51.560 getting a social worker. Then they told us she can't leave the hospital without her PICC line 0.81

00:25:56.280 removed, which is like an IV thing. I was like, well, you've got two minutes to take it out. And

00:26:00.440 then we're going to take her to the next place. Um, and they're like, we'll get the stuff, blah, blah,

00:26:03.880 blah. But then it, like within just a couple of minutes, like, well, we're, we can't, we can't take

00:26:08.680 the PICC line out. I'm like, so you're refusing to let us go based on the PICC line, but you're also

00:26:13.400 refusing to take it out. You guys are creeping me the hell out. You haven't listened to us. You have

00:26:18.360 endangered my daughter's life. She's been vomiting for like 13 hours and she's declining

00:26:23.800 in your care, not advancing. We were there, I think for like almost two hours total in,

00:26:29.880 in the hallway. And at, at the beginning, there was just two guards that came up,

00:26:35.240 but for the brunt of it, there was always seven minimum and more usually coming in and out. Um,

00:26:41.480 and all of them had guns on the, on, in holsters. So what do you do in that scenario,

00:26:46.440 even when they're doing things illegally, what do you do when there's a gun? Like,

00:26:50.600 see, I said like a day before to the doctor, you've got a gun to our head.

00:26:54.680 And now they literally had guns. It wasn't a euphemism for me.

00:26:58.040 They placed a 12 hour hold on Evelyn. And after 12 hours,

00:27:01.400 she was property of the state of Missouri.

00:27:03.560 Terrifying. I mean, terrifying. Who do you call?

00:27:10.120 How do you call police when it's the police enforcing the child being taken away from you?

00:27:15.480 Now you met the mom, you met the dad and you met the lawyer. Do they have a plan for getting that

00:27:24.840 kid out of there? I talked to the lawyer a little bit, so I think I know it. What's the latest?

00:27:29.240 They're going to try and move this to a more sympathetic jurisdiction where the family has

00:27:33.320 ties and they're going to try and get an emergency order to get the kid out. Like that's happening right 0.87

00:27:37.800 away, isn't it? It's, it's happening as soon as possible. They're trying to get it done right now.

00:27:42.360 What's happening is the hospital is in Missouri. The family is from Kansas. And it's Missouri that

00:27:48.200 wants to take custody of Evelyn Young. So they're trying to get, they're trying to get the child

00:27:54.920 protective services first in Kansas to have custody of Evelyn. And then they're going to try to take

00:28:01.080 custody from child protective services back to the parents. So first they need to change states and then

00:28:05.960 they need to get the custody from the state to the parents. All right. Here's a clip of the lawyer

00:28:11.720 who I spoke with. She's about 25 years at the bar. So this is a pretty seasoned lawyer, not just some

00:28:19.240 kid. I spoke with her. I had confidence. I liked her strategy. Here's a little word from the family

00:28:26.280 lawyer. Our first goal is to get the custody of Evelyn back to Justin and Jesse. And I think that

00:28:34.840 if we can get reasonable people to look at the facts in this case, I think it's very obvious

00:28:40.760 on our side that this is not a medical neglect case. This is a case of two parents who have done

00:28:48.760 an enormous amount of research and want to do what is best for their child. And so questioning

00:28:54.920 any type of medication or procedure or wanting a second opinion is not neglect in our eyes. It is

00:29:00.760 actually doing their due diligence and being good parents. Well, you know, Rebel News does this a lot

00:29:08.600 in Canada, Jeremy. We do it a bit in the United Kingdom and we've done it in Australia to hire a

00:29:13.880 lawyer, a civil liberties oriented lawyer to help a family that's not wealthy. And I spoke to them on

00:29:20.600 these. This is not a rich family. They don't have a lot of dough. Even at the reduced rate,

00:29:25.160 the lawyer is charging. There's no way this family can go up against this mighty hospital with unlimited

00:29:31.320 coffers. So I'm sort of excited that we're going to try this. This is a classic Rebel News move.

00:29:37.960 Tell a story, but then try and do something about it. We've never done this in America before, Jeremy,

00:29:43.240 but I'm hopeful that if this works, we could do more and more of this

00:29:46.280 citizen activism combined with our citizen journalism. What do you think?

00:29:51.960 Yeah, I mean, I think this is a great place to start. This is a family who's, you know, their

00:29:57.000 child that they love very much has been stolen by this giant health institution and the state is

00:30:03.160 enforcing it. So, you know, to throw our gloves in the ring with this one is really a great place

00:30:09.080 to start.

00:30:09.160 Yeah, I started off by talking about the lockdowns and how children were persecuted. This is not a

00:30:13.800 pandemic case. This is a regular case of medical kidnapping. And that's a terrifying phrase.

00:30:21.480 What do you do when the authorities are the ones doing the kidnapping? Who do you call? Well, in this

00:30:26.440 case, you call a civil liberal lawyer and Rebel News will be there. We've set up that website that you

00:30:30.520 mentioned. We set it up. It's called Save Evelyn dot com. So I'm in Canada and I would invite all our

00:30:38.440 viewers, whether you're in Canada, the United States or anywhere in the world to consider signing

00:30:42.520 that petition. Jeremy will take it to the hospital. And I'm hopeful that we can. I mean, I've I've only

00:30:48.120 heard of cases like this before, but usually not in America. America is more free than this. I've

00:30:52.120 heard of a terrible case in the UK before. If we can make a difference here, Jeremy, I bet

00:30:57.320 other families will make themselves known to you and say, well, we've got a terrible. I mean, I

00:31:03.080 can't think that this is a one off. I bet there's a whole world of families who made the wrong choice

00:31:09.560 in the eyes of a hospital or a big pharmaceutical. And they say, well, we're going to take your kid. 0.64

00:31:13.960 I bet that there's a lot going under the surface here. You're already being proven right, Ezra. I

00:31:19.560 mean, since going to Kansas City and poking around, you know, there is a tiny community of parents there

00:31:25.560 in the Midwest who've had their children taken from them by this hospital and they didn't have the

00:31:30.520 resources to get it back. You know, thankfully with Evelyn, you know, we're getting it early

00:31:36.440 and we're getting involved early. So hopefully we can we can help out here. But there's definitely

00:31:40.440 other cases that are similar to this. And it's a shame. Yeah. Well, Jeremy, you're fairly new to

00:31:44.280 the Rebel News team. I know we've talked to you a couple of times before, but we're still getting

00:31:48.600 to know you and your kind of journalism. You really have a penchant for sticking up for the underdog.

00:31:53.800 And that is our Rebel News style. And Rebel News itself is not wealthy. We're not sitting on

00:31:58.920 millions and millions of dollars that hiring this lawyer is easy for us. It's the opposite.

00:32:03.160 It's because we have thousands of ordinary folks chipping in twenty five or fifty bucks

00:32:08.360 that we can appear to be big like a puffer fish when it's actually just lots of little

00:32:13.480 Davids banding together to go after the Goliath. And I'm really hopeful. I've talked to the mom.

00:32:19.400 I've talked to the lawyer. Obviously, I'm following your work there. I don't want to get my hopes too high,

00:32:25.080 but I think that we've got a real chance here. So thanks for your great work. And please keep us

00:32:28.760 updated because I know this is all going to go down in the next week or so.

00:32:33.560 I definitely will. All right. There you have it. Jeremy Lafredo,

00:32:36.120 our New York based reporter in the U.S. of A. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:32:39.960 You know, there's a theme between the two stories we talked about today. The first was the Arrive Can

00:32:56.600 app. Violating your privacy, violating your personal autonomy, picking on kids. Can you imagine

00:33:03.000 stranding Boy Scouts overseas? Oh, and then blaming it on Air Canada. Air Canada was a kind of victim,

00:33:09.240 too. They actually did some bullying themselves, but it was only because a bigger bully was bullying

00:33:14.840 them. But litigation may be the answer. As you know, the Democracy Fund has filed a constitutional

00:33:24.040 challenge to the Arrive Can app. And I think there's some overlap with that second case, Jeremy

00:33:29.240 Lafredo reporting on Evelyn Young, the 10 year old girl being medically kidnapped. Journalism can help,

00:33:37.000 but I think sometimes you need a lawyer. Now you need a good judge even more than you need a good

00:33:41.880 lawyer. We're going to try in both the Democracy Fund, which is the charity spinoff that does civil

00:33:49.240 liberty's law. They're working on the Arrive Can app. If Trudeau does not abandon it in a week,

00:33:54.200 that constitutional challenge will proceed. And hopefully it'll proceed even if Trudeau does take

00:33:58.280 his foot off our neck. But this case of a 10 year old child, imagine going into a hospital.

00:34:03.960 They give your daughter an experimental drug. She goes temporarily blind. And then when you say,

00:34:09.000 I want to get out of here, they say, no, Child Protective Services is coming. I can't think of

00:34:13.400 anything more scary. Well, we're going to be involved with both of these battles. You know it.

00:34:18.600 Until tomorrow, on behalf of us here in Rebel World Headquarters to you at home,

00:34:23.720 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:34:26.520 Angelica Toy for Obel News. I am out in downtown Calgary to gather public opinion on a net zero concept

00:34:31.560 proposed by Liberal Minister of Transportation, Omar Algebra, where he plans to ban fossil fuel-based

00:34:37.160 vehicles by 2035. Today, we can say there are several plans that are being announced

00:34:43.720 for building these cars here at home, for building the products associated like batteries and car

00:34:51.880 components here at home. And we invested in our budget close to half a billion dollars to help

00:35:00.280 municipalities and regions build infrastructure for refueling those vehicles. So we are working

00:35:08.360 at it from different levels. Yes, it feels that we're behind and we all need to work together to

00:35:13.640 get to that goal, but we're all committed to getting there.

00:35:16.600 I understand why they're doing it for the environment. However, I think it's a little

00:35:21.800 short-sighted in a lot of ways. Number one, we cannot turn off oil and gas at all. We're going to need

00:35:29.080 it in other ways for one thing. For another thing, the infrastructure isn't there to support electric

00:35:35.080 vehicles with charging with the electrical grid. Plus, in Alberta, how is our electricity created? By

00:35:44.200 burning gas. So either way, it's really seriously going to affect us poorly. I think electric cars are

00:35:54.840 interesting. It's a step forward. As with anything else, we move on. Just like phones one time didn't

00:36:04.440 have a screen on it, and now they do, and we can browse the internet on them. So it's kind of the

00:36:08.440 next step, but I think it's very short-sighted. I think it's terrible. That's all I've got to say.

00:36:13.880 It's terrible. It's awful. What are you going to do? Stop people driving their favorite car? They

00:36:17.800 can't do that. It should be illegal. That would not be 2035. That's like how many years now? 30 years.

00:36:25.160 I think it's better to kind of like make the production of the, you know, regular gas vehicles just decrease

00:36:33.560 the production and increase the production of the electric vehicles. If you want to do that,

00:36:38.840 I think banning completely, it's, it's going to be a little bit difficult because not everybody can

00:36:45.800 afford an electric vehicle. At least I can afford one right now. So these rebates seem to be for

00:36:51.880 people who can afford, you know, fairly expensive cars. Well, I mean, it's true that electric vehicles

00:36:59.720 are, are, are more expensive than, than internal combustion engine. Although experts tell us that

00:37:05.320 they won't be much of a price difference in the coming years. Is it 2025 or 2026? Maybe even before

00:37:11.640 that. By 2035? Um, good luck. I'm not sure if that's going to happen, but I wouldn't be against it.

00:37:20.840 Well, I probably wouldn't be excited about it because to be honest with you, our electric grid can't handle

00:37:26.280 that many electric vehicles charging. Right? So I don't think oil and gas is going away for a while.

00:37:32.360 Right? It's ambitious and it, and it has to come with massive infrastructure right across the country,

00:37:38.280 like charging stations. So I'm wondering, is Canada ready for that?

00:37:45.800 I would agree with you. It is an ambitious target. Are we ready? I'd say we are getting ready.

00:37:50.520 Um, if you look at provinces like British Columbia and Quebec, which have put in place incentive

00:37:56.040 programs many years ago, which have put in place mandatory sales vehicle for car manufacturers,

00:38:02.280 we're already around 12, 13, 14% of, uh, of new sales, uh, that are, uh, electric vehicles or

00:38:09.800 plugging hybrids. So going from 14 to 20% in these two provinces will, will not be that difficult.

00:38:16.600 Would you say you're a fan of electric vehicles?

00:38:19.320 Oh, I don't even think I have an opinion.

00:38:23.800 No, I just really like a reliable car. I mean, I wouldn't like, maybe I'd consider it if I bought

00:38:29.080 a new car, but I wouldn't buy, change the car I have just to get an electrical one.

00:38:33.720 Would you think an electrical vehicle would be, like you said, reliable, say during the winter time?

00:38:38.840 Um, I'm not sure. I know there's a lot of debate, like electrical engineers say yes, but

00:38:42.760 some people are worried about the battery lasting through harsh winters. Maybe not so much here,

00:38:47.880 but I moved here from Canmore. So there, I don't think I trust it.

00:38:52.120 California, um, electric vehicles have been pushed quite greatly in the last little while.

00:38:56.440 And currently they are facing an energy crisis where, um, they can't meet the electrical needs.

00:39:01.320 So they're being told that they can't charge their vehicles. Would you still be willing up to give

00:39:05.160 up your freedom to drive in an energy crisis? Um, I guess that's a hard question. Um, yeah,

00:39:16.280 I guess I, yeah. I'm walking today, but it's a very complicated situation, isn't it?

00:39:21.880 How are we going to do it? So yeah, thank you. Unfortunately, our politicians haven't figured out

00:39:27.080 the science behind the issue. Would you say you're a fan of electric vehicles?

00:39:30.920 Uh, yeah, we get a lot of work from them. So I'm an electrician, right? So yeah.

00:39:35.160 Do you know how the batteries are produced? Uh, I know lithium is not very good for you and

00:39:40.200 it's not a good thing and you can't dispose of it. You can't protect yourself against the lithium,

00:39:44.600 right? So how do they protect people that are mining it? And then, you know, 20, 30 years from now,

00:39:49.480 if we can't get rid of these lithium batteries, how are we supposed to dispose of these?

00:39:53.880 Right? Like they're going to have like a massive pile of them. What are you gonna do? Ship them to China? 1.00

00:39:58.280 Like, I don't think so, right? So while some people promote this idea as a breakthrough towards

00:40:03.320 green energy, others see it as an attack on the environment and on the fossil fuel industry in

00:40:07.800 Canada, specifically in Alberta. Speaking to people around town, we can come to see that this

00:40:12.200 is also an economic and an ethical issue. How are people supposed to afford electric-based vehicles

00:40:17.640 when not all of us can afford oil-based vehicles currently and the electric ones are much more

00:40:22.600 expensive? And it also raises questions on how we dispose of these batteries and the production

00:40:28.520 behind them because these aren't renewable, they aren't recyclable, and it starts to affect our

00:40:33.960 environment and the people that are around such toxic chemicals. And it sounds great, but it is a huge

00:40:42.840 change. This is a very big country. You know, people use their car a lot to go from one city to the other.

00:40:48.840 That's why I asked you about charging stations, right? A colleague of ours went from, you know,

00:40:56.120 Ontario to the Atlantic provinces and, you know, sort of chronicled his ride. And it was not easy.

00:41:04.760 It took, you know, a day and a half more because there were no charging stations.

00:41:09.160 So you will have to accompany this ambitious 20 percent by 2026 of sales of electric vehicles

00:41:18.680 with a huge infrastructure across the country, even in remote areas.

00:41:25.560 Absolutely. And so I don't personally own a vehicle. I've never owned one, but my service vehicle as

00:41:31.880 minister is 100 percent electric vehicle. So I totally understand what some of the challenges are. I'm

00:41:38.280 I'm living it.

Rebel News Podcast - September 23, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is Trudeau actually going to get rid of ArriveCAN？

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