Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Liberals waited until Parliament was over before revealing their plan to censor the Internet

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I take you through Stephen Gilbeau's proposed censorship bill.

00:00:04.700 It's not actually a bill because it hasn't been introduced yet, but it's the bones and a lot of

00:00:11.180 the meat on the bones of the bill, and it's terrifying. It's his way of censoring any

00:00:16.520 voices he doesn't like, and he pretty much comes out and says it. He's not going after crimes.

00:00:22.160 He's going after voices he doesn't like, and he's going to boost voices he does like and

00:00:28.520 smother voices he doesn't just by deeming them harmful. I won't go through here now, but I take

00:00:35.000 you through his announcement pretty carefully, line by line. Let me invite you to become a subscriber

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00:01:25.200 Tonight, the liberals wait until parliament is over before revealing their plan to censor the

00:01:45.820 internet. It's July 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:49.760 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:55.700 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:59.780 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:02:04.620 right to do so.

00:02:10.600 Bill C-10 was a law that gave the government jurisdiction over the internet. Bill C-36

00:02:18.140 introduced the day before parliament closed, showed how they were making hate speech, another

00:02:24.020 crime or near crime in the law, as well as introducing a pre-crime law that would allow judges to sentence

00:02:32.780 people to house arrest or other restrictions based on your fear of them. That's what we knew

00:02:39.840 when parliament was sitting. But Stephen Gilboa and the other cabinet ministers working for Justin

00:02:47.100 Trudeau waited until today before revealing their master plan to censor the internet. In terms of a

00:02:54.980 piece of legislation, it's not actually a bill. You can't issue a bill when parliament is not sitting.

00:03:01.800 It's just an announcement, but it's the most detailed announcement I think I've ever seen that

00:03:07.320 wasn't a bill. In addition to the announcement, there's pages and pages of technical notes letting

00:03:13.600 you know exactly how they plan to do it. They waited so parliament was not in session, so they

00:03:19.820 couldn't be asked about it in question period, so they can't be studied by parliamentary committees.

00:03:25.520 But you better believe they plan on doing it. As I've shown you before, since Stephen Gilboa was

00:03:30.620 made the heritage minister, censoring the internet was literally the number two item on his job

00:03:36.660 description called a mandate letter from the prime minister. Number one, of course, being handing

00:03:41.380 out money to the good boys and girls in the media party. That's job one. Job two is punishing all the

00:03:47.160 others. Stephen Gilboa is probably the worst cabinet minister other than Catherine McKenna in terms of

00:03:54.280 sheer dislikability and incompetence. Remember this when he went on CTV and accidentally spoke the truth

00:04:02.000 and said, yeah, he wants to license all the news media in Canada. Remember this?

00:04:06.340 They're recommending that content providers have to register and get a license. So how will this work?

00:04:13.300 How are you going to regulate websites? How are you going to register all that? Do you buy these

00:04:17.720 recommendations?

00:04:20.720 Well, I mean, one of the recommendations, so you're talking about a couple of different things here, but

00:04:26.140 as far as the licensing is concerned, is if you're a distributor of content in Canada, and obviously,

00:04:31.980 you know, if you're a very small media organization, the requirement probably wouldn't be the same as if

00:04:39.660 you're Facebook or Google. So there would have to be some proportionality embedded into this. But we would ask that they have a license. Yes.

00:04:50.940 The reaction was very strong. And he had to walk that back. But he actually didn't change his mind. He just thought he would

00:04:57.180 make the reporters feel better. Later, he told eager reporters at a Canada 2020 conference, that indeed, he plans to

00:05:05.180 regulate the internet. And get this, one of the things he wants to crack down on the hardest was anyone criticizing

00:05:13.180 politicians. That he said was a top priority. Get a look at this.

00:05:17.820 We've seen too many examples of public officials retreating from public service due to the hateful

00:05:23.580 online content targeted towards themselves or even their families.

00:05:28.620 Seriously, I don't know if you know, but in terms of how we protect speech, there's commercial speech,

00:05:33.980 which has some protection. There's religious speech. But the speech that actually gets the most protection 0.60

00:05:40.300 in our society is political speech to criticize the government. You can understand why.

00:05:45.820 Because without it, all our other freedoms could wash away. That's what Stephen Gilboa hates the most.

00:05:52.380 And he says that if he doesn't get his way, if people don't bend the knee and stop criticizing

00:05:58.140 politicians, well, he might go to the nuclear option. Listen to him say that.

00:06:03.340 Could we envision having blocking orders? I mean, maybe. It's not, you know, it would be,

00:06:15.660 it would likely be a last result nuclear bomb in a toolbox of mechanism for regulators.

00:06:26.060 Well, the nuclear option was dropped today. There's one more thing I want to play you from

00:06:30.940 that Stephen Gilboa video, because it also came true today. It's a very Orwellian double think

00:06:39.020 way of talking. Of course, freedom of the press helps the most marginalized. If you already

00:06:44.460 have power and have money and are in a position of authority, you don't actually need free speech.

00:06:49.420 You've got the stuff. But the more marginalized you are, the more you rely on free speech.

00:06:55.340 Think about Martin Luther King when he took on the entire establishment in the civil rights movement

00:07:00.060 in the 60s. He had nothing other than the power of speech. The suffragette movement, nothing but the 0.73

00:07:06.140 power of speech, the movement to stop the slave trade. It did not have the power or the money. It had

00:07:12.780 the free speech. But according to Stephen Gilboa, Justin Trudeau's errand boy on this project,

00:07:18.460 in order to have free speech, you have to censor people. You have to silence some people,

00:07:24.300 he believes, in order to allow his friends to speak. That's the other thing he said at that conference.

00:07:29.580 By not acting, we are, in fact, not ensuring a great number of Canadians' freedom of expression

00:07:37.660 and freedom of speech. Because they can't express themselves on these platforms

00:07:43.980 the way they, in a safe manner and the way they have a right to.

00:07:50.220 Well, that was all weeks ago when I've been showing you this and talking to you about this

00:07:53.900 for months on Rebel News. Well, today was the day they did it. Like I say, waiting until parliament

00:07:59.340 was over. So there's no question period. And do you really think that the media party that eats out of

00:08:03.900 his hands $600 million a year in bailouts? Do you really think they're going to ask him tough

00:08:07.820 questions? So here's a press release called Creating a Safe, Inclusive, and Open Online Environment

00:08:16.780 from Canadian Heritage. You know, that's very Orwellian in itself, like calling the Ministry

00:08:22.380 of Propaganda the Ministry of Truth. It's not going to be any more safe. In fact, it's going to be

00:08:28.380 dangerous if you have any dissonant ideas. It's not more open. Every tool in this tool,

00:08:33.820 box is about welding people's mouths shut. And it's certainly not inclusive. It's only inclusive 0.98

00:08:39.980 if you're a friend of the government, not if you're a critic. I'll read the entire press release to you,

00:08:44.860 and I'll talk to you more about it. The government of Canada is committed to taking concrete action

00:08:50.860 to combat serious forms of harmful online content, specifically hate speech, terrorist content,

00:08:59.740 content that incites violence, child sexual exploitation content, and the non-consensual

00:09:05.820 distribution of intimate images. Isn't that an interesting combination of ideas? Because I think

00:09:13.020 there was four ideas, three of them, obviously 99.9% of Canadians would agree. Crimes inciting violence,

00:09:21.660 there ought to be a law. In fact, there is. That's already against the law. And whether you incite

00:09:27.500 violence in real life, or on the radio, or on TV, or in a print newspaper, or through a telegram,

00:09:34.700 or through the internets, it's all against the law. That's already covered. Same thing with terrorism.

00:09:41.180 Terrorism is already against the law. And our criminal code was brought up to speed, up to date,

00:09:47.580 after 9-11. There are many specific crimes in the criminal code that touch upon supporting terrorists,

00:09:55.100 even online. That's already handled. Same thing with child sex trafficking, revenge porn. That's

00:10:02.380 something that can be treated without censoring the entire internet in general. That's something that

00:10:07.580 ought to be done, and I believe is done already in some jurisdictions. But look what they hid amongst

00:10:13.660 those. Everyone agrees in banning revenge porn, and child exploitation, and terrorism, and

00:10:20.540 inciting violence. We all agree with that. I know we do, because those are already laws. But in the

00:10:25.020 middle of there, they have offensive speech, hate speech, speech that causes harm. I know what speech

00:10:31.900 that's a crime is, uttering a death threat, inciting violence. But what they've done here, and you'll see

00:10:37.420 this all the way through, is they buried their real purpose. Harmful speech. Not illegal speech,

00:10:43.820 not criminal speech, just speech they don't like. Speech that makes fun of politicians.

00:10:48.220 Speech that maybe drowns out their political enemies. They've buried that amongst the terrorism

00:10:53.340 and the child pornography. So if you dare to oppose this, they'll surely say, what, are you against

00:10:59.020 terrorism laws? Actually, it's Trudeau that's against terrorism laws. He gave a big fat apology

00:11:04.940 and ten and a half million dollars to a terrorist called Omar Khanna. That's beside the point. Let me read some

00:11:09.340 more. Today, the Honorable Stephen Gilbeau, Minister of Canadian Heritage, alongside the Honorable Bill Blair,

00:11:15.660 Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, and the Honorable David Lametti, Minister of Justice

00:11:20.220 and Attorney General of Canada, launched a public consultation on a proposed approach for promoting

00:11:25.420 a safe, inclusive, and open online environment. The proposal has been informed by extensive work

00:11:31.500 led by the government over the last year on the issue of online harm. Inclusive, eh?

00:11:38.140 Only an Orwellian censor would describe cutting things down and shutting mouths as inclusive.

00:11:46.940 It reflects targeted engagement with communities that experience inequitable outcomes or treatment,

00:11:52.860 including victims of hate speech and organizations combating child sexual exploitation.

00:11:58.140 The proposal also draws on insights from civil society and advocacy groups from across Canada,

00:12:04.780 and on approaches taken by Canada's international partners. Targeted engagement. What does that mean?

00:12:11.660 That means they spoke to lobby groups, including lobby groups that they funded to get the green

00:12:17.740 light for their censorship plans. Inequitable outcomes. By that, they mean people who they don't think

00:12:25.660 that they're being listened to enough and that people should stop listening to others. For example,

00:12:30.460 if there's a YouTube channel that only has a few thousand viewers, but let's say, oh, I don't know,

00:12:35.900 Rebel News with 1.5 million subscribers, well, that's inequitable and it's not inclusive enough.

00:12:42.300 You heard Stephen Gilboa. He says in order to prop up his friends, he's going to have to squash his enemies a bit.

00:12:49.660 I think the most troubling part there is he refers to international partners. By that,

00:12:55.100 I think they mean foreign censors. Even, as you know, two years ago, when Canada co-sponsored a media

00:13:03.260 freedom conference in London, Chrystia Freeland attended and had a secret meeting with the foreign

00:13:08.700 minister of Pakistan. It wasn't on her itinerary. She didn't tell any Western media about it. It was

00:13:14.540 only when that foreign minister of Pakistan boasted about it and published the pictures

00:13:18.300 that we knew. Is that an example about the foreign and international partners that Trudeau

00:13:23.820 is listening to when it comes to censorship? I'll read some more.

00:13:27.580 The government aims to present a new legislative and regulatory framework this fall with rules to

00:13:33.580 make social media platforms and other online services more accountable and transparent in

00:13:38.540 combating harmful online content. This framework would also contemplate the role of law enforcement

00:13:44.460 and security and intelligence agencies in addressing the real-world impacts of online harm.

00:13:50.060 These proposals aim to support inclusive online participation and protect public safety while

00:13:55.260 protecting the freedom of expression and privacy of Canadians online. Again, they talked about

00:14:02.780 terrorism and child pornography so that you would say, yes, I agree with this. But now that we're into it,

00:14:09.180 they're talking about inclusive participation. They're talking about regulating things that are not crimes.

00:14:16.300 If you want to regulate terrorism, do so. And the good news is we did so 20 years ago. If you want to

00:14:23.180 regulate revenge porn or child exploitation, do so. And indeed we do. But that's not what this law's about.

00:14:30.780 I'll continue. Seeking public input on the complex and technical elements of regulating harmful online content

00:14:37.820 is an important step in establishing this framework. Notice how they use the word harmful, not illegal.

00:14:44.060 They've already banned the illegal stuff. That's why it's called illegal. Harmful is just stuff that

00:14:49.260 Stephen Gilboa doesn't like. Like insults. He told us. I'll read some more. More specifically,

00:14:55.980 the government's proposed regulatory framework would

00:14:59.740 define the types of harmful content to be regulated, establish which entities would be subject to the

00:15:05.900 new rules, set out new rules and obligations for regulated entities, and create new regulatory bodies

00:15:12.860 to administer the new framework. In the weeks ahead, the government will also hold roundtable discussions

00:15:18.780 to have focused conversations on aspect of the law enforcement and national security proposals.

00:15:24.780 Yeah, it'll be fascinating to see who is invited. Like they're going to have targeted meetings with

00:15:30.380 their friends who will tell them exactly what they want to hear. In fact, I predict that most of the

00:15:34.620 the people who are consulted are people that the Liberal Party pays through government grants to toe

00:15:40.380 their line. It's just an echo chamber. I don't think there will be many true civil libertarians

00:15:45.660 allowed at these events because first of all, there aren't very many true civil libertarians allowed in

00:15:50.140 Canada anymore at all. And second of all, this government doesn't really consult. They put together

00:15:55.100 focus groups or more likely just defenders who will repeat their talking points and say, yeah,

00:16:00.700 we support this censorship because it's about inclusion. I'll read some more. This includes

00:16:06.780 how the regulatory framework can be structured to require the removal of serious forms of harmful

00:16:12.060 online content, facilitate the investigation of potential criminal activity online, and disrupt

00:16:17.740 threats to public safety and national security, all while supporting victims from protecting Canadians' 0.96

00:16:22.620 privacy and charter rights. Well, this reminds me a little bit about what they're doing south of the

00:16:27.900 border. And I don't think it's a coincidence either. I think we know that for years, the Liberal Party

00:16:33.100 of Canada has had Democratic Party operatives helping to run their campaign, something that if the

00:16:38.780 Conservatives ever did with Republicans would be an endless scandal in the media. I think it's pretty

00:16:43.180 much taken for granted that the Liberals and the Democrats in the states work together. In the states,

00:16:48.300 they're focusing on censorship. They're inquiring into the events of January 6th, which is the great

00:16:54.220 meandering when people broke into the Capitol building and then just sort of wandered around

00:16:59.100 and put their feet up on desks. That's an attempt to redefine anyone who supported Donald Trump as a

00:17:04.620 domestic violent extremist. As I said on the show this week, I don't support break and enter or

00:17:11.180 trespass or vandalism or mischief. But the only person murdered that day was Ashley Babbitt, a protester who

00:17:18.380 happened to be a military veteran. Brian Sicknick, the officer who the media claimed died that day,

00:17:23.900 according to the coroner's office, died later from natural causes. But yet that event is being trumped

00:17:29.580 up into basically a 9-11 domestically to give a justification for the FBI and others to go after

00:17:37.100 anyone conservative to demonize half the country. I fear that that's the battle plan for Justin Trudeau and

00:17:43.740 the Liberals. You heard Stephen Gilboa himself. This is about people who criticize politicians. He's

00:17:49.580 said so. And you can see here that they're talking about harms now. They're not talking about crimes.

00:17:55.740 I'm all in favor of hunting crime in every form, whether it's on a ship at sea or a real world

00:18:03.500 building or on the internet. The criminal code, luckily, applies to all of these. But that's not what

00:18:07.980 this is about. I'll read some more. The government welcomes all comments, perspectives, and evidence

00:18:14.860 concerning these issues and potential options. Submissions will help inform the incoming

00:18:19.900 legislation. No, they don't. I know that they don't. They ban us. They specifically ban Rebel News

00:18:27.260 from press conferences. Stephen Gilboa has personally banned me from following him on Twitter. In fact,

00:18:33.900 we launched a lawsuit against him because he was banning me from getting official government

00:18:38.140 releases on his Twitter account. And he's hiring lawyers to fight that. That pettiness and that

00:18:44.540 targeting his political disagreeers rather than targeting criminals gives the game away.

00:18:50.380 Stephen Gilboa is not interested in fighting terrorism. He himself is a convicted criminal who

00:18:55.740 engaged in a little bit of eco-terrorism himself. Stephen Gilboa doesn't care about terrorism. He's a

00:19:02.220 criminal. He cares about silencing people like Rebel News. Canadians and stakeholders have until 0.99

00:19:09.180 September 25 to submit their comments. Click here to participate. We will. In fact, we've already

00:19:16.220 started analyzing the massive document that was attached to this press release, all the different

00:19:22.780 regulators, the role that CSIS, our spy agency, will play. I think they're going to try and do the same

00:19:28.940 thing they're doing in the States to turn the anti-terrorism infrastructure of the country that's

00:19:35.180 designed to protect us against another 9-11 or another shooting as Al-Qaeda did and ISIS did on 0.95

00:19:42.940 our parliament. I think they're trying to turn the anti-terrorism machinery towards domestic conservatives.

00:19:47.980 I think that's pretty clear. We will make submissions on this. We're going to put together the best we can.

00:19:54.300 I'm certain it'll be ignored. They've already said they're going to have specific targeted meetings

00:19:58.860 with their friends, but we'll go through the motions anyways. We have to. It'll also be an

00:20:03.420 education for us of how bad this bill is and a preparation for when this bill is introduced and

00:20:10.460 then becomes law. I promise you right now the Rebel News will fight this in court all the way to the

00:20:17.740 Supreme Court. This is the bill we've been warning you about for pretty much a year or even more

00:20:24.460 really since the Liberal Party banned us from even reporting on the national debates. Stephen Gilboa,

00:20:31.980 Justin Trudeau, and the rest of their thin-skinned cry bullies always say they're harmed by our

00:20:38.460 questions and they want to silence us and censor us. And the rest of the civil libertarians haven't

00:20:44.140 been there in the progressive conservatives or the CPC as it's now called. Well, here's Aaron O'Toole's

00:20:50.780 hand-picked critic for Heritage. His name is Alain Reyes. Here he is in parliament talking about this

00:20:57.740 very thing, talking about Stephen Gilboa's plans to regulate the internet, Facebook, YouTube. Take a listen.

00:21:04.540 But we don't see it in the bill. There's nothing in this bill that allows for the regulation of social

00:21:13.340 media or platforms like YouTube. And it's clear we would have liked to have seen this in the bill.

00:21:19.500 The minister even says we have to find a way of preventing hate speech, conspiracy theories and

00:21:28.140 fake news that's shared. But right now in the bill, unfortunately, we won't even be able to amend it

00:21:36.380 in that aspect. And because it's simply absent from the bill. Yeah, he's the opposition critic,

00:21:42.060 but he's not opposing and he's not criticizing other than saying he wished the government would go

00:21:47.100 farther. I'm actually quite worried that the Conservative Party of Canada and Aaron O'Toole and Alan Reyes

00:21:52.860 might not even oppose this. They're too worried about being told that they're sympathetic with

00:21:57.660 domestic violent extremists or whatever. The wording of this, it's not a bill, it's a pre-bill. The

00:22:03.740 wording of it is designed so if you oppose it, people will say, oh, what are you sympathetic to

00:22:08.220 terrorism? What are you sympathetic to child exploitation? No. It's the free speech you buried

00:22:15.180 in the middle of it that I'm worried about. They attach a technical paper for more study, they say,

00:22:22.220 I've started to study it. It's a massive thing. I'll read a little bit.

00:22:25.820 Technical paper. The aim of this discussion paper is to present a proposed framework

00:22:29.580 for an act of parliament. It reflects one of several possible approaches. The paper does not

00:22:34.380 imply approval by any party of the approaches or concepts in it. Any eventual act may be supplemented

00:22:40.620 by regulations made under the act. Well, of course, it reflects the work of this government. Of course,

00:22:46.060 it was published by Stephen Gilboa and it's a result of his two-year project to come up with a

00:22:50.700 censorship plan. Of course, this reflects the liberal view, and they want it talked about,

00:22:56.140 and they want it talked about when they're in control of the conversation, which is why they

00:22:59.260 did it outside of parliament. I promise you this will be our largest fight of the year. Now,

00:23:04.140 we're still battling on the lockdown issue. As you know, we have over 2,000 cases that fight the

00:23:09.260 fight. That's very important. But this, I think, is them coming to kill us and our friends at True

00:23:15.260 North and the Post Millennial and Spencer Fernando and anyone else who doesn't toe the line. There's two

00:23:22.220 ways with Justin Trudeau. Either he pays you, like the CBC or the Post Media bailout, or he bans you.

00:23:31.580 There's nothing in between. We're starting a petition at StopTheCensorship.ca. StopTheCensorship.ca.

00:23:39.500 If you sign up there, I'll send you a copy of our submissions to the government. I know they'll be

00:23:44.300 ignored by the government, but I hope that they inform the world what's going on in Canada.

00:23:51.580 And we'll surely sue as soon as this is law. But they're really not waiting, are they? We know what

00:24:00.140 they're going to do. They're coming to silence us, but they're coming to silence you too.

00:24:07.020 Stay with us for more.

00:24:14.300 Welcome back. Well, where is the old Civil Liberties Alliance? I'm talking about

00:24:24.940 60s-style liberals and leftists who maybe had a splash of anarchy in them, but what you could

00:24:31.900 count on them for was a robust defense of freedom of speech. I remember, I mean, I wasn't around yet

00:24:37.660 in the 60s, but I know that the ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, would often make a point of

00:24:44.220 sending a black or Jewish lawyer to defend Klansmen or neo-Nazis, making the point that

00:24:51.580 obviously they disagreed with their client, but they understood. You have to fight the fight for

00:24:56.220 free speech in the first ditch, not the last ditch. Where is that old Civil Liberties Alliance of the

00:25:02.620 left? I think it's gone. Certainly here in Canada, where the Canadian Civil Liberties Association

00:25:08.860 has been sleeping soundly through the last 18 months of the greatest infringement of civil

00:25:14.220 liberties since Canada was born. So too in the United States, where the ACLU seems more concerned

00:25:21.180 with trans rights than the rights of all Americans, including trans people during the lockdown. Well, 0.96

00:25:27.980 I'm pleased to say that to replace that old Civil Liberties Alliance, there's something

00:25:32.220 actually called the new Civil Liberties Alliance. And they care very much about civil liberties,

00:25:38.380 regardless of your race or gender or background. It's all about freedom. And you know, one of their

00:25:45.660 lawyers, we've talked to her before, her name is Janine Yunus. And she comes to us now via Skype from

00:25:50.300 Washington, where she is the lead lawyer suing or threatening to sue a university for forced

00:25:56.940 vaccinations. Janine, great to see you again. It's great to be back, Ezra. Well, thank you.

00:26:01.900 I have in my hands a press release that you guys put out last week called NCLA, that's you guys,

00:26:07.100 the new Civil Liberties Alliance, tells George Mason University that its forced vaccination policy

00:26:14.380 violates constitutional rights and medical ethics. I've never seen a policy quite as abusive as this.

00:26:20.620 And I've seen half a dozen attempts at vaccine passports. Why don't you tell us what George

00:26:26.460 Mason University threatened its staff and students with?

00:26:29.420 So George Mason's policy is laid out in three separate documents. There was an email that came

00:26:36.540 out on June 28, and then another one on July 22, and then there was a website. And they're not all

00:26:41.500 exactly the same, but they've given an indication that one overrides the other. So we're assuming they're

00:26:45.900 all operative. So students are mandated to get the vaccine. They allow religious and medical exemptions.

00:26:53.740 But if you get one of those, you have to socially distance and mask and subject yourself to constant

00:26:59.820 testing. So it's obviously quite punitive. It makes the life of the student who has the exemption

00:27:04.140 fairly miserable. Faculty and staff are not saying it's a mandate. They're saying you're encouraged to

00:27:11.980 get the vaccine. But again, if you don't get it, you have to physically distance, wear a mask,

00:27:17.020 subject yourself to testing. You can seek a remote option. So obviously for professors,

00:27:22.700 this really interferes with their ability to perform their job effectively. You can't be as

00:27:27.740 effective if you're wearing a mask, if you can't take students to lunch, if you can't hold office

00:27:30.860 hours, all of which are part of the social distancing and masking requirements. And to make matters worse,

00:27:39.740 you have to upload proof of your vaccination status. They say proof of vaccination status,

00:27:44.300 but obviously you can't upload proof that you haven't gotten the vaccine. So they're saying,

00:27:50.540 you know, proof that you have got it into an online portal. And if you don't,

00:27:53.660 you're ineligible for merit pay increases. And if you don't comply with the policies,

00:27:58.700 you're subject to disciplinary action, which includes termination of employment and

00:28:04.940 or possible unpaid leave. So although it's not a mandate, technically it's effectively a mandate.

00:28:10.540 Yeah. I mean, to denormalize, marginalize, denounce, segregate and make people wear a scarlet

00:28:17.340 letter or a mask. What's so interesting is that your client, who's actually a law school professor

00:28:24.620 there. And I used to know George Mason University some years ago as a real liberty kind of think tank.

00:28:30.700 At least that's what I remember it as. Maybe they messed with the wrong guy because the Scalia

00:28:36.860 School of Law, I mean, that should tell you that they care about freedom. Professor Todd Zwicky,

00:28:41.500 if I'm saying his name right, he had the COVID virus naturally. So he has a natural immunity to it.

00:28:49.740 Sounds like that's not cutting any ice. They want him to take the injection anyways,

00:28:56.140 even though it has real risks as outlined by the drug companies themselves. They're not respecting

00:29:01.980 or exempting him, even though he's got natural immunity. Am I right?

00:29:06.540 It doesn't appear that they're going to. We sent a letter requesting that they do so.

00:29:10.700 I believe that Professor Zwicky had brought this up with them before and they indicated that they

00:29:14.860 were not going to acknowledge or recognize his natural immunity as equivalent to vaccine immunity,

00:29:20.060 which is absurd. We have, as you know, we established through a few declarations that

00:29:24.780 we attached to the letter, natural immunity is as good or better as the most effective

00:29:28.860 vaccines. It's far better than some of the vaccines that the, that GMU accepts actually.

00:29:33.420 So GMU is accepting any who approved vaccine, which includes the Chinese Sinovac vaccine, which has

00:29:39.500 a very low efficacy rate. The Johnson and Johnson is somewhere between 66 and I think 83,

00:29:45.020 85% effective. Whereas natural immunity is in the high nineties in terms of efficacy. And it looks as

00:29:51.340 though Pfizer just came out with a study showing that, um, after six, six months, uh, immunity,

00:29:58.220 sorry, that's not Pfizer. There was a study from Israel showing that immunity from the Pfizer vaccine

00:30:02.780 wanes significantly after about six months. Um, so it still reduces symptoms, but you can be infected,

00:30:09.340 which means that you can spread it. Whereas natural immunity doesn't appear to have that. So

00:30:13.420 this is completely irrational, arbitrary and makes no sense whatsoever.

00:30:17.180 Yeah. Yeah. Yesterday on my show, I went through the entire, I think it was seven page

00:30:23.500 Pfizer statement about their vaccine and all the different, you know, uh, caveats and footnotes and

00:30:31.180 warnings and words like experimental kept coming up. There was also a line in there I thought was

00:30:37.020 interesting. Pfizer themselves say, if you don't take this vaccine, it should not alter any other medical

00:30:43.020 treatment you receive. Like their basic, it was a very interesting document. Um, I'm sure it was written

00:30:48.380 for reasons of legal liability. Uh, Pfizer is not as, uh, cheerleading, at least in its official documents

00:30:56.060 about the Pfizer vaccine as every politician and bureaucrat seems to be. They can't emphasize enough

00:31:03.740 the risks. They can't emphasize enough that for example, it hasn't been tested when you mix and

00:31:09.500 match vaccines, which is what many Canadians have had done. Yeah. I read that Pfizer warning,

00:31:15.100 seven page warning. Another thing is I'm certain that no other per like one in a million people

00:31:21.580 actually read the seven page warning before they're injected. This is an experimental med

00:31:27.580 that is not done being tested. For example, they, they treat pregnant women or breastfeeding women.

00:31:33.180 They say, we just don't know. So how can a school, especially a school that's supposed to know law

00:31:42.060 command its staff and students, you must take this even if you've got immunity when Pfizer itself says,

00:31:48.860 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is voluntary. It's, it's extraordinary Ezra. I mean,

00:31:53.820 and as I think we've discussed before in the U S these are authorized under a statute known as the

00:31:58.220 emergency use authorization statute. I don't know if there's an equivalent in Canada. Um,

00:32:02.780 that statute is quite clear. It says that recipients should be offered the option to, um,

00:32:08.700 to refuse the treatment that they must be informed of the risks and benefits. Uh, and everybody is

00:32:14.140 acting as though that doesn't exist. In fact, the office of legal counsel at the DOJ, which advises the

00:32:19.260 president just issued a memo saying something like, well, it might, it might appear that it shouldn't

00:32:25.100 be able to be mandated, but we think it's clear that it should be able to, they used a very contorted

00:32:29.580 or twisted interpretation of the statute that makes no sense. It's not based on a plain reading

00:32:34.780 of the statute at all. And it's clear to me, this is all political. You know, there's this, uh,

00:32:39.500 drive to vaccinate everyone, vaccinate everyone. Why I don't understand. It doesn't make any logical

00:32:43.820 sense, particularly when you're talking about people who have a natural immunity, but also, you know,

00:32:48.220 applies to a lot of people who are younger, healthy, and might make a decision or assessment that the risk

00:32:54.460 to them outweighs the benefit. Yeah. I mean, what's interesting to me is when some of these Olympic

00:32:58.780 athletes who are probably healthier and fitter than 99.99% of the world. I mean, these people

00:33:06.620 are the absolute best of us in terms of physical stamina and fitness. The percentage of the regular

00:33:15.340 20 somethings who get sick or, or gravely sick or die in that age group is so close to zero. It's hard

00:33:23.020 to measure, let alone these, you know, fine athletic specimens. It's shocking to me that,

00:33:29.900 that anyone would expect that they would take an experimental drug whose side effects are known,

00:33:36.060 but we don't know the full extent of them. The drug's still being tested. And why would a perfectly

00:33:41.900 healthy Olympian inject himself with that med? I just, I find that this is no longer about medic,

00:33:50.460 medicine or science. It's about obedience, about indicating which team you're on,

00:33:57.100 about, about being able to hector other people. It gives you a leg up so you can be in the in group.

00:34:05.020 I think masks were to soften us up. Masks softened us up, obedience conditioning,

00:34:11.020 and now the vax. And then we're already hearing boosters and annual shots. I mean, it's not,

00:34:17.660 you know, we heard of double masking. Now there's double and triple, triple vaccine. I'm,

00:34:22.540 I'm deeply worried about this and I just don't even understand it. I don't understand it. If it's

00:34:28.140 a public health thing, I absolutely do understand it. If it's a social control thing, then it makes

00:34:35.580 sense. Yes. It's the only way it makes sense. And you know, you mentioned masks and now the vaccine.

00:34:40.700 I mean, we also had at the very beginning, it was shaming people for not socially distancing

00:34:44.300 appropriately or not following those rules. So it's just been a long attempt to shame people,

00:34:48.060 to socially control them and to create these in and out groups, as you mentioned,

00:34:51.180 and to demonize people and to blame them. When you know it's the fact is that this disease can't

00:34:58.380 be controlled or solved by the government. It can't be solved by people, but we're trying to blame

00:35:03.180 people and demonize them for, for their choices. Yeah. I mean, I, I was reading Jordan Shachtell.

00:35:09.900 He had a clever tweet today. He said it went from, Hey everybody, the vaccine will save us to

00:35:14.940 convince your neighbors to wear, to get a vaccine. Come on, just coax them to

00:35:18.940 you bloody unvaccinated people. You're the reason we're still sick like that. 1.00

00:35:22.460 That's sure. Escalated quickly. We talked about in groups and out groups and,

00:35:27.820 and lockdownism as a ideology, really more a superstition. I saw something interesting

00:35:33.260 yesterday, uh, an enormous union, which I think we could probably safely say is a pro Democrat,

00:35:40.060 pro Biden union, the postal workers. They said they're not for, for mandatory vax. Joe Biden has

00:35:46.860 said that he wants everyone who works for the government to be vaxed. Postal workers said, no,

00:35:50.380 thanks. Um, I'm going to find that an interesting one to follow because, you know, it's one thing for

00:35:57.660 the zoom, uh, class of society, folks who can, you know, work from home, never lost a day's pay.

00:36:07.260 They think this is a, you know, sort of a, a fun emergency because it doesn't cost them anything,

00:36:12.220 but they get to be very dramatic. That's one world. But you know, if you're a door to door,

00:36:19.260 blue collar postal worker, you probably are from a different world and you don't want to be injected.

00:36:24.060 I wonder if there's any other demographic groups that have political clout. Um, I've heard that

00:36:30.380 visible minorities, for example, including black Americans have a, a lower vaccination rate and they

00:36:36.460 would be disproportionately penalized in any vax passport system, uh, system. We've heard the

00:36:42.300 phrase systemic racism. You didn't mean to be racist, but the system has that effect. I wonder if

00:36:48.700 there's going to be any hope that these traditional Democrat groups, whether it's union workers or

00:36:55.100 black Americans might be some sort of counterweight that liberty loving, you know, political people 0.85

00:37:02.460 on the right, just don't get any traction. Uh, I wouldn't hold my breath. My friends and I have tried 0.88

00:37:08.940 making that point a little bit on Twitter and various other places, and it doesn't seem to get any

00:37:12.700 traction. Um, so because the vaccination rates for minorities and especially for minorities in New York

00:37:18.620 City and other places is much lower. So we're, you know, pointing to the fact that they're being

00:37:22.220 excluded at much higher rates, but nobody seems to care. Uh, the, the desire to politicize this virus,

00:37:27.420 to politicize this issue and to politicize the management is just right overwriting everything.

00:37:31.420 Last question, just back to the lawsuit that the NCLA is, uh, uh, is looking at. Have you actually

00:37:38.540 filed the lawsuit or have you just sent demand letters to the university? The fact that they

00:37:42.700 put up their policy and then yanked it down within hours tells us that they knew they phrased it wrong.

00:37:48.700 I bet there's a lot of interesting behind the scenes correspondence that could come out in some sort of

00:37:53.420 document discovery. I think they have dirty hands and they, they should walk away. Have they responded

00:37:59.180 to you? Have you actually filed a lawsuit or are you just sort of sending them a warning shot so far?

00:38:05.020 Um, so far it's just a warning shot. I haven't received a response to my letter yet. Um,

00:38:09.820 which we, uh, sent last Wednesday. So, uh, we will keep you posted. We're, um, prepared to

00:38:17.260 protect Professor Zwicky's constitutional rights and, uh, I'll be happy to speak again as things develop,

00:38:23.420 if they develop. Yeah. Well, thank you for that. And just to tell our Canadian viewers who are most of our

00:38:28.060 viewers, uh, besides our, uh, petition at novaxpassports.ca, we are looking for a test case

00:38:36.940 for our civil liberties project up here. And what's so interesting about this case is that

00:38:42.700 Professor Zwicky is a very sympathetic client in that he has natural immunity already.

00:38:49.420 And the institution is very odious in that they're so punitive

00:38:53.340 and bullying. That's the kind of fact pattern we're looking for up here in Canada,

00:38:59.100 a sympathetic plaintiff who for medical or religious reasons ought to be exempt and an odious

00:39:05.420 defendant, uh, ideally a government agency that's bound by the charter of rights. So if you know

00:39:12.220 someone in that position, send them to us. We are looking for a test case. Send that to legal

00:39:17.580 at rebelnews.com. Janine Yunus, uh, great to see you again. Congratulations. Hopefully the new

00:39:24.060 civil liberties alliance will fill the void left by the hiding old civil liberties alliance. Thanks

00:39:30.780 for being with us. All right. Great to see you. There you have it. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:39:44.460 Hey, welcome back on my show last night on vaccine passports. Bruce writes,

00:39:51.500 I won't get the jab because I won't be able to sue the companies and governments for bad side effects.

00:39:56.220 Yeah. I mean, it, it's incredible, um, how the lessons of thalidomide, that was

00:40:03.020 the medication for pregnant moms who had morning sickness and it caused their babies to be born

00:40:08.060 limbless. Terrible, terrible consequences. That totally changed the pharmacy business. It required

00:40:15.180 all sorts of tests in advance. And it was very, it brought in all sorts of ethics rules for who you

00:40:21.660 could test drugs on. Well, they're testing these drugs on the whole world, aren't they? Maybe in the

00:40:28.060 end, it'll be found that this vaccine is really effective and not dangerous. But so far, I'm not

00:40:32.380 sure how effective it is. It looks like the effectiveness wears off after a number of weeks.

00:40:36.780 And it looks like it has had more side effects than every other vaccine reported combined.

00:40:43.100 I'm not saying that people should not take the vaccine. I'm just saying we need more information.

00:40:47.580 And if you're under 50 or even under 60, really, and if you're healthy, it just, the math doesn't add up.

00:40:55.740 Yeah. CK writes, I don't understand. The vax doesn't save you from either getting COVID or

00:41:00.940 passing it on to others. Why does it, everyone have to have the experimental gene therapy they're

00:41:05.180 calling a vaccination, but resembles no other vaccine in history? Well, that's the thing. I think

00:41:10.540 I showed you that Kathleen Kuczynowski went out and did some streeters in Toronto. And some people

00:41:14.620 said, I would never invite anyone who's not double-vaxxed like me over for dinner. Well, hang on. 1.00

00:41:19.660 If you're double-vaxxed, aren't you saved harmless from it? I don't know. I think there's a lot of

00:41:24.700 disinformation and misinformation. Big pharmacies never had it better. They've never been more

00:41:29.900 profitable. But mainly, as I said to Janine today, I just don't think this is about health.

00:41:35.660 I think it's about using health as an excuse for government control. That's very different,

00:41:40.380 isn't it? That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at

00:41:44.300 Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - July 30, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Liberals waited until Parliament was over before revealing their plan to censor the Internet

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