00:25:37.040Thank you for giving me the opportunity to clarify that.
00:25:39.140Okay, I mean, we want to get it right.
00:25:40.340And here's the crazy thing is that on paper, Mark Carney should be one of the strongest
00:25:45.520prime ministers we've ever had financially.
00:25:47.540I mean, Stephen Harper was an economist and you could sort of tell.
00:25:50.640Well, Mark Carney, I mean, he really has academic credentials.
00:25:54.480He was with Goldman Sachs, Bank of Canada, Bank of England, chairman of Brookfield.
00:25:59.100So this is a guy you would think who would be able to, like if he ran Brookfield like
00:26:03.780this, he would have been sacked by the board of directors immediately.
00:26:07.860I guess it's a different switch in his brain when he's playing with his own money when he was chairman of Brookfield, as opposed to when he's playing with taxpayers' money.
00:26:16.980Like, it's hard to believe that such a crazy overspender, you know, has a pedigree that suggests he would be fiscally responsible.
00:26:26.680Well, Ezra, the incentives of the private sector and then government are completely different, right?
00:26:31.260So you can't judge it as the same thing, right?
00:26:33.740And the most obvious way to put it is like, look, when you're in government, you're spending
00:27:10.160Hey, I mentioned the 12 million Trudeau thing because I just keep laughing at it.
00:27:13.640I mean, really, if you wanted some light reading, it would be the wise words of Justin Trudeau.
00:27:21.840Like that's a pamphlet, but we're going to spend 12 million.
00:27:24.520I guess that's like a Canadian equivalent of when U.S. presidents retire.
00:27:29.120They have a state library like the Obama Library.
00:27:32.820They have so many archives. I guess that's our equivalent to it. Are there any other goofy or crazy or irritating examples you came across? I couldn't get past that 12 million to enshrine the deep thoughts of Justin Trudeau. Any other wackiness out there?
00:27:49.100Well, let me give you two. So number one, and Ezra, I think you guys really will find this interesting or the opposite of that, right? So another $300 million for the state broadcaster, right? Hey, I thought crown corporations are supposed to find savings.
00:28:06.280But no budget 2026 announces another $300 million for CBC. Ezra, tons, tons of money, taxpayer subsidies or special taxpayer treatment or whatever you want to call it for the media. Right. So I think that's a huge concern. And I think that's something. Stay tuned, folks. We're going to be diving deeper into that. Now, Ezra, though, the second thing and where I'm a real big concern, and I love the way you teed this off at the beginning of the segment.
00:28:34.260With the Kearney government, we are seeing a real state trying to control the economy, right? That is a huge issue. You go through this budget, and it's like, oh, there's a strategy for this sector, a strategy for that sector, a strategy for this sector, right? So very, very top-down control where the state is trying to dictate.
00:28:55.480Central command. Yes, centrally planned economy. That's what we used to call the Soviet Union.
00:29:00.440so that state control on economic activity something that is very very concerning also
00:29:08.640in that budget now i know the government has announced this before but but ezra a part of this
00:29:12.940is the is the debt fund right the sovereign debt fund i'm not going to call it wealth fund because
00:29:18.580there is no wealth when the government is more than a trillion dollars in debt but the government
00:29:23.040is going to borrow another 25 billion dollars and then pretend like it's an investment banker
00:29:28.780with other people's money, picking, you know, which businesses should be winners, which businesses
00:29:34.300should be losers, and essentially, you know, pump taxpayers money into certain businesses or
00:29:39.240certain industries in the Canadian economy. So that just kind of goes back to what I'm saying
00:29:43.520in this budget. Real, you really see some state trying to centralize or control or dictate which
00:29:51.740which parts of the economy should be winners and which one should be losers. You know, I'm so glad
00:29:56.100you mention that because I know some sovereign wealth funds, for example, Norway, Saudi Arabia,
00:30:02.120obviously one of the most famous. These are countries that have so much cash coming in,
00:30:07.260usually, in fact, almost exclusively now that I think about it, from oil and gas. So they've got
00:30:12.720this pile of dough and they don't spend it all. They invest it. Now, the investments are always
00:30:18.800political in nature. Maybe the Norwegian one, a little bit less so. We don't have a pile of dough.
00:30:24.380we have a big pit we have like a the the uh like you know you see a photo negative we have the
00:30:31.220opposite of a wealth fund so to borrow 25 grand and then to say we're in the same league as these
00:30:37.540cash positive countries it's so weird it would be like put you know borrowing money to rent a
00:30:44.460lamborghini and put on like a five thousand dollar suit and you're pretending you're in the league
00:30:49.120with the guys who actually can afford that. There's something weird. And the weirdest part
00:30:54.540is that media absolutely laps it up. They absolutely buy it. They can't get enough of
00:31:01.160Mark Carney. And I don't know. I think one of the reasons is what you alluded to, the huge grants to
00:31:07.400the journalists. You mentioned the $300 million for the CBC. I saw a headline. I didn't see this
00:31:11.920in the budget. So you can tell me if I'm wrong. $501 million for other journalists. They're going
00:31:18.140to expand the journalistic subsidy i saw that in ctv i don't know if that was in the budget i assume
00:31:23.440it was half a billion dollars to the regime to keep reporting on i don't know i think that that's
00:31:29.840probably the most dangerous half billion dollars in the whole budget there's a lot there's a lot
00:31:35.720right like you're asking me what's the worst part of the budget it's almost like a trick question
00:31:39.860you know like it's it's it's bad um let me talk about so there are tons of subsidies tons of
00:31:45.600special taxpayer treatment whatever you want to call it for all these different forms of media
00:31:49.580including the state broadcaster itself i mean this this sovereign wealth fund like we cannot call it
00:31:55.240that what it is ezra is a debt-fueled corporate slush fund that's what it is uh and you know what
00:32:00.700ezra um i actually do think i know what what the worst part of this budget is because we can talk
00:32:05.640about some of the crazy spending we could talk about you know the corporate welfare whatever
00:32:09.180you want to call it the subsidies to the state broadcaster or or other forms of media but the
00:32:14.360worst part of this entire budget is really the trend and what we've seen. And it's the interest
00:32:19.200on the debt. More than a billion dollars every week. Ezra, that is the cost of building a brand
00:32:24.360new hospital. So imagine building a new hospital every week, then tearing it down before a single
00:32:29.400doctor or patient walks through those doors. That's how much we're wasting on interest payments
00:32:34.460on this government's debt. But one other thing, Ezra, the fastest growing cost in the federal
00:32:39.940budget, the fastest growing cost to federal taxpayers, so to speak, is not defense. It's
00:32:45.440not infrastructure. It's not healthcare spending at the federal level. It's paying the government's
00:32:50.880credit card bills. What is going on? Yeah. Very frustrating. And I think the grossest part is it
00:32:59.680feels like a costume. Mark Carney looks like a banker, dresses in a fine suit, uses the jargon
00:33:08.300of business but it's just a it's a veneer covering big government just like it always was he's just
00:33:16.340finding new ways to sell it and i and i think that's the scariest part franco terzano great
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00:33:32.800funding franco great to see you again thanks ezra all right there he is franco terzano stay with us