Rebel News Podcast - April 13, 2024


EZRA LEVANT ｜ No one says that Canada has the best healthcare system in the world anymore


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Quadriplegic Quebec man chooses assisted dying after four-day emergency room stay leaves horrific beds sore. Four days in the emergency room? Four days on a stretcher? For four days in an ER? That's what happened to Normand Monnier.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I have a terrible story for you out of Quebec. I don't want to give it away
00:00:04.100 before you listen to it, but it's about a man who, because of the absolutely atrocious treatment he
00:00:10.240 had in hospitals, he chose doctor-assisted suicide, and they gave it to him instead of the
00:00:17.840 simple medical solution he needed. Just a terrible story. We'll also talk to Sheila Gunn-Reed about
00:00:23.600 the revelations at the Chinese Infiltration and Interference Commission. I'd really like it if 1.00
00:00:29.780 you got the video version, because I want you to see Trudeau testifying before this commission.
00:00:34.920 It's quite something to see. To get the video version of this podcast, go to rebelnewsplus.com,
00:00:41.180 click subscribe. It's eight bucks a month, and in addition to getting the video content every day,
00:00:47.400 you'll know you're supporting Rebel News Network, because we don't take a dollar from Trudeau,
00:00:51.720 and it shows. All right, here's today's podcast. Tonight, do you notice that no one says anymore
00:00:57.500 that Canada has the best healthcare system in the world? It's April 12th, and this is the Ezra LeVant
00:01:02.500 Show. Shame on you, you censorious bug. When I was growing up, and I think anyone over the age of 45
00:01:21.980 would know this, that everyone used to say Canada had the best healthcare system in the world.
00:01:28.920 I remember people often said Medicare was our national identity. People were sometimes asked to
00:01:35.420 say what being Canadian meant, and I remember from my youth the two most common answers of the
00:01:42.060 establishment left were, we're not American, which I didn't think was particularly an identity. It's sort of
00:01:48.600 an anti-identity, and it's not that true. But number two, and in fact, it was the most common answer
00:01:54.900 was our Medicare. I can't remember anyone saying that in at least 10 years, can you? Other than maybe
00:02:02.960 public sector unions in a self-serving way, but I don't even think they say that anymore. In the last
00:02:09.440 four years, COVID-19 has damaged so much trust in the system that I think it's pretty much polished off
00:02:16.120 any love for our healthcare system. By the way, COVID-19 also purged a lot of excellent nurses 0.51
00:02:23.460 and doctors and paramedics and others from the healthcare system. Certainly anyone with an
00:02:28.860 independent mental spirit, the independence to be a contrarian, which sometimes you want.
00:02:34.980 You want a second opinion in medicine quite often. And then add in 2.2 million immigrants last year to
00:02:43.000 Canada. That's the figure that includes students, temporary workers, etc. No wonder our healthcare
00:02:49.240 system is just the pits. Look at this heartbreaking story that I saw in the CBC today. So if this is
00:02:56.120 how CBC reports it, you know it's even worse. Quadriplegic Quebec man chooses assisted dying after
00:03:04.300 four-day emergency room stay leaves horrific beds sore. Four days in the emergency room.
00:03:12.060 Whole story is a crying shame, says advocate. Let me read the first three sentences of this atrocious
00:03:18.060 story. On a Thursday in January, Normand Monnier arrived at the hospital in Saint-Jérôme, Quebec with a
00:03:26.540 respiratory virus. Weeks later, he would emerge with a severe bed store that would eventually lead him to
00:03:33.020 seek medical assistance in dying, MAID. Monnier, 66, had been a truck driver before a spinal cord injury
00:03:41.800 in 2022. Left his arms and legs paralyzed before being admitted to an intensive care bed for his third
00:03:47.820 respiratory virus in three months as winter. Monnier was stuck on a stretcher in the emergency room
00:03:54.220 for four days. Stuck on a stretcher? For four days in the emergency room?
00:04:02.780 Best healthcare system in the world, right? I'll keep reading. His partner, Sylvie Brosseau,
00:04:09.180 says without having access to a special mattress, Monnier developed a major pressure sore on his buttocks
00:04:15.360 that eventually worsened to the point where bone and muscle were exposed and visible, making his recovery
00:04:20.600 and prognosis bleak. So sorry to read you that, but you need to hear it. 95 hours on a stretcher,
00:04:26.840 unacceptable, Brosseau told Radio Canada in an interview. That's such an atrocious story in itself,
00:04:34.220 but look at this. Here's, keeps going. Every time we go to the hospital, it's my duty to tell them
00:04:39.940 Normand is quadriplegic, as if they couldn't detect that quickly, and needs an alternating pressure mattress.
00:04:47.320 I don't understand how this can happen, because a mattress is the most basic thing. Brosseau says,
00:04:52.920 although she advocated for her partner, she was told the special bed had to be ordered.
00:04:58.400 Okay, so he just needed a different kind of mattress, really. Shouldn't be a big deal.
00:05:04.080 But of course, it was a big deal.
00:05:07.020 Speaking with Radio Canada the day before his death, Monnier said he preferred putting an end to his
00:05:12.040 physical and psychological suffering by opting for a medically assisted death. So everyone knew what
00:05:19.380 was going on. This didn't happen immediately. This happened over the course of months. Everyone knew
00:05:25.560 this guy was in awful pain, and the solution was to get this mattress, but no one got it. They were all
00:05:32.580 fine with him killing himself. In fact, they helped. That's what MAID means.
00:05:37.060 I don't want to be a burden. At any rate, the medical opinions say I won't be a burden for long.
00:05:44.080 As the old folks say, it's better to kick the can, said Monnier. He died at home on March 29th.
00:05:49.800 Did he really die at home, or was he killed at his home? Let's be precise, please.
00:05:56.140 Here's a disabilities advocate. I'm surprised they quoted one.
00:05:59.000 That whole story is a crying shame, said Stephen LaPerriere, the director general of the
00:06:05.500 Regroupement des Activistes pour l'Inclusion au Québec, which supports people with disabilities.
00:06:12.640 It's really a case of disbelief. What are we doing in order to help disabled persons or sick 1.00
00:06:16.960 people to live in dignity prior to dying in dignity? He says the health care institution was
00:06:23.100 negligent, to say the least, and that getting a proper mattress is not like trying to get a space
00:06:27.640 shuttle into orbit. It's pretty basic. Nobody will convince me that within a few hours the proper
00:06:33.620 mattress could not have been found, said LaPerriere. Hey, crazy idea. Just going on a limb here.
00:06:41.740 Do you think by chance this is happening on purpose? As in by governments that would rather just
00:06:46.920 kill someone than go to the hassle of getting a mattress on time or fixing emergency room waiting
00:06:54.120 lines or spending thousands of dollars making a sick person healthy again? This is a war on the
00:07:01.340 weak. It's a war on the sick. What a change from the fake moral superiority we normally hear from
00:07:07.560 government-run health care advocates. Here's the obvious statement. Trudeau Lemons says this case is
00:07:15.820 quote, an illustration of problems in our health care system. The Scholl chair in health law and policy
00:07:21.520 at the University of Toronto says people who are already vulnerable are left feeling like more of
00:07:25.500 a burden in the system. Quote, then the system responds by saying, well, you can have access to
00:07:31.020 medical assistance in dying, said Lemons. Medical assistance in dying is more easily available and
00:07:35.900 on a more regular basis than some of the most basic care. He says he is increasingly hearing stories
00:07:41.700 of people who are struggling in the system and turned to MAID. Oh, well, he was old. He was a truck driver,
00:07:50.100 probably one of those horn honking protesters, and he was a quadriplegic. He was nobody's nothing,
00:07:56.440 as Morrissey would say. He wasn't cool and fashionable and avant-garde like this guy. Did you see this
00:08:04.180 story? Ontario resident who wants both a vagina and penis wins public funding for unique surgery. 0.98
00:08:12.220 A court has ruled that Ontario must pay for a penis-sparing vaginoplasty for a person who
00:08:20.980 identifies as neither fully female nor fully male. I guess they're our bosses now. I guess 0.99
00:08:28.680 these three judges sort of rule the world now. Let me quote from the story. If this were April 1st,
00:08:35.460 I swear I would think this is a prank. Ontario has been ordered to pay for surgery for a resident 1.00
00:08:42.620 who is seeking to have a vagina constructed while leaving their penis intact. Denying the procedure 0.98
00:08:49.820 would infringe on the person's charter-protected right to security the person. Did you know that
00:08:54.440 there's a charter rights to have the government pay for both a penis and a vagina? Did you know that? 1.00
00:08:59.260 Now you do. And Ontario court said in its ruling, the unanimous decision, unanimous, it's so obvious
00:09:06.620 this decision, of course it's unanimous, by a three-member panel of judges of Ontario's divisional
00:09:11.820 court could expand access to a novel bottom surgery for people who identify as non-binary, meaning
00:09:18.760 neither fully male nor fully female. So that's the great thing about government-run health care, isn't it?
00:09:25.040 On the one hand, government can sentence uncool people like that truck driver to death just by
00:09:32.060 starving them of resources, letting them stay on a stretcher for 95 hours. And the same government
00:09:38.000 can muster extraordinary amounts of money, probably hundreds of thousands of dollars, for the most
00:09:43.420 bizarre political experiments. And don't you dare criticize you bigoted transphobic racist. Things are
00:09:52.840 getting worse every day, aren't they? Stay with us for more.
00:10:07.860 I said earlier in the show today that when I was young, people always said Canada has the best
00:10:13.120 health care in the world. It's central to our Canadian identity. That shows how old I am.
00:10:18.840 Also, when I was young, Canada liked to punch above its weight in the world. We called ourselves
00:10:24.860 honest brokers, whether it was Cyprus or Israel and Lebanon or whatever. Canada liked to play a
00:10:33.440 diplomatic role. And we had lots of peacekeepers. I don't actually think there's a single Canadian
00:10:38.740 peacekeeper anywhere around the world. And despite all the tough talk by Chrystia Freeland and Justin
00:10:43.240 Trudeau, I think Canada has handed over one single tank to Ukraine. And I don't think it's been
00:10:52.300 deployed yet. So many promises that we make we can't keep. And it shows Canada was left out of
00:11:00.100 major NATO exercises in Europe. We just didn't have the horses to participate. In the new AUKUS,
00:11:07.000 that's Australia and the UK. That's a new alliance that we are completely left out of Australia,
00:11:15.300 United States, UK. We're simply not there anymore. We're just inconsequential. Justin Trudeau
00:11:22.480 convinced himself that Canada was a power player. He was so certain that Canada would be elected
00:11:28.880 to the non-permanent seat in the UN Security Council. He blew millions of dollars trying to bribe
00:11:34.920 countries around the world to vote for him. And they simply didn't. And I say all this because
00:11:41.060 what's been happening this week at the Judicial Commission of Inquiry into foreign interference in
00:11:48.000 our elections is so shocking that if any of our so-called Five Eyes allies, that's sort of like the
00:11:55.740 super friends of the democracy, the closest allies we have in the world, including the US and Australia
00:12:02.400 in the UK, if any of our Five Eyes allies were still taking Canada seriously, that would absolutely
00:12:10.640 be extinguished after watching Justin Trudeau's cavalier, and I would say childish approach to
00:12:18.840 national security. Like a child, he needed to be read to, like a bedtime story from daddy. He wouldn't
00:12:26.320 read memos. He insisted on them being read to him like a child. Maybe he is illiterate. I remember
00:12:32.580 as a candidate, he said he was, he had, uh, dysnumeria or some semi-made-up problem where he
00:12:40.520 said he couldn't do math. Remember this? I am dysnumeric. What that means is I have an inability
00:12:48.940 to handle small numbers and little calculations, those easy things that people do so well.
00:12:56.400 Yeah, I think that maybe he's functionally illiterate as well. I think we actually do have
00:13:03.120 the dumbest leader in the world. When he said to one of the inquiries that found him guilty of
00:13:10.280 violating the Conflict of Interest Act, that he really left the details to other people and he was
00:13:15.220 more into relationships and ceremony. Maybe he was actually telling the truth. Joining us now via
00:13:21.120 Skype is our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter, who has been covering very closely
00:13:25.380 the cascading waterfall of embarrassment that has been this commission. Sheila, great to see you again.
00:13:33.040 Thanks for having me on the show, boss. Yeah, this commission today was not supposed to be a
00:13:38.500 commission sitting day, but they had to clear up some things that were brought before the commission
00:13:46.040 well after a major witness testified. But I think we'll get to that in a second.
00:13:52.340 Well, I mean, I've been reading your coverage and I've also, because you've been live tweeting it and
00:13:57.380 you've been clipping videos and I very much encourage our viewers who are on Twitter to go to
00:14:02.280 Sheila Gunn-Reed. That's your handle on Twitter. And it's just one bombshell after another.
00:14:07.480 I've also been reading the Twitter feed of Steve Chase, who's a senior reporter at the Globe and
00:14:13.800 Mail. And I know I criticize the Globe and Mail a lot, but I have always mentioned Steve Chase as a
00:14:20.620 genuine reporter who gets his facts right and who often presents challenges to the government.
00:14:28.740 For example, he was part of the team, him and Bob Fyfe, who reported that Jody Wilson-Raybould was
00:14:33.820 fired by Trudeau. Trudeau said that was false. No, Trudeau was just lying. Same sort of thing here.
00:14:42.180 Steve Chase and Bob Fyfe reporting on Chinese government infiltration in Canada. Trudeau denying
00:14:49.840 it. And so it's interesting to watch your coverage and the coverage of the mainstream media,
00:14:54.820 at least in the case of Steve Chase. Everyone sees the emperor has no clothes. All right,
00:14:59.760 enough preamble for me. Why don't you tell us some of the bombs that blew up today metaphorically?
00:15:05.380 Sure. So the reason there was basically an unscheduled emergency sitting of the commission,
00:15:10.840 which was supposed to wrap up on Wednesday with Justin Trudeau's testimony, is that in the middle
00:15:17.140 of the night after the testimony of CSIS director David Vigneault, documents relating to his testimony
00:15:24.680 were given to the lawyers on the other side of the commission, the non-government lawyers,
00:15:30.500 intervening lawyers, in the middle of the night. So one o'clock in the morning, they raised this issue.
00:15:35.300 They said, well, now we have these documents that say these wild things, and we need to be able to
00:15:41.260 ask David Vigneault questions about it. And so we recalled David Vigneault. And a lot of those,
00:15:47.920 the questions today are relating to a briefing note from February 2023 that was given directly to
00:15:56.640 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, not the briefing note itself, but a briefing relating to this note and
00:16:02.760 members of the PMO. And what that briefing note said, and it was from CSIS, it was a CSIS conclusion
00:16:10.220 that said that China has been deceptively and clandestinely meddling in Canadian elections,
00:16:16.980 specifically in the last two. And it said, we know, like we as an agency know this is happening.
00:16:23.620 And so it's no wonder that the government didn't want those documents to be in the hands of the
00:16:28.780 opposition lawyers when they were able to cross-examine David Vigneault. So Justin Trudeau was
00:16:37.440 asked about that briefing note, and he denied everything that was in the briefing note. And I
00:16:44.280 think this is really interesting because PMO staffers had contemporaneous notes, their own handwritten notes
00:16:52.360 from the day that they were given that briefing note, but they denied hearing about two very specific
00:17:00.080 issues inside that briefing note. One that CSIS knew, and thus CSIS communicated directly to the PMO
00:17:07.480 and to Justin Trudeau, that China had clandestinely meddled in the election, and that we are logging
00:17:15.500 or lagging behind our Five Eyes allies, and that Canada is a low risk, higher reward target for the PRC.
00:17:25.660 The briefing notes prepared for the director didn't particularly align with the actual briefing we got.
00:17:33.540 The briefing was spent almost entirely on specific cases, and all of these notes prepared for the
00:17:42.860 director. Generally saying, yes, foreign interference is serious, India, China, serious, would have taken up
00:17:51.560 the first 30 seconds of what the director said because he would have gotten right into the cases. So this is not...
00:17:59.540 I'm just going to show you one more point from this. I do have your point about that. It's page three.
00:18:04.420 It's going to be your next question.
00:18:05.720 Yes, thank you.
00:18:11.720 Yes, it's the bullet point that begins with the word ultimately.
00:18:15.600 Ultimately, state actors are able to conduct foreign interference successfully in Canada
00:18:21.720 because there are no consequences, either legal or political. Foreign interference is therefore a low risk
00:18:26.940 and high reward endeavor. Did the director convey, in those words or in some similar words, that message
00:18:34.740 that this is a low risk, high reward endeavor because there are no consequences?
00:18:41.980 No.
00:18:43.300 Thank you. That's very helpful.
00:18:44.200 That's Trudeau saying, I'm too stupid to read my briefing notes, so I take them bedtime story style
00:18:51.840 by having the director of CESIS read them to me like I'm an idiot child. And no, he didn't mention that.
00:19:01.880 But you're saying documents were filed at 1 a.m.
00:19:06.080 And they recalled the head of CESIS to contradict Trudeau. Is that what you're saying?
00:19:12.100 That's exactly what happened. So that is the briefing note from February 2023.
00:19:17.880 CESIS director says that's those are the briefing notes of what would have been the briefing given to
00:19:24.800 the prime minister's office. And as I said, they have contemporaneous handwritten notes
00:19:28.940 relating to other things from that briefing that day. But they deny, Katie Telford herself
00:19:35.520 denies that she was being told that. So the CESIS director was recalled this morning and we've
00:19:40.080 got a clip of him saying, actually, I did tell him.
00:19:42.760 Let's take a look.
00:19:43.300 Have you ever communicated this particular assessment about us being slower than our five
00:19:48.120 allies to either the prime minister or the prime minister's office?
00:19:53.460 Madam Commissioner, I can say with confidence that this is something that has been
00:19:58.880 conveyed to the government, to ministers, the prime minister, using these words and other
00:20:06.640 types of words. We often, in order to make sure we understand, have the best possible
00:20:15.780 assessment of a situation, we often look to other jurisdictions to see what is their own
00:20:21.880 analysis of the threat, what tools they have put in place. And so the comparative analysis
00:20:27.960 analysis of, with the five eyes, but also with other like-minded nations, nations who have
00:20:36.480 similar political systems as ours, or Western democracies, you know, we do the, doing the
00:20:46.560 comparative analysis is a very useful tool, both from an intelligence point of view, but also
00:20:53.100 from a policy point of view. So I can say with high degree of confidence that, you know, these
00:20:58.980 examples, I've used them in both private briefings, but also in our, in my speeches, public
00:21:07.780 speeches, in CSIS annual reports, in parliamentary testimony. Just this past week, I was in, in
00:21:17.540 testifying in front of the Canada-China Committee in the House of Commons, and I used same, same kind
00:21:27.440 of analysis on, on different topics linked to foreign interference. So yes, to question to the
00:21:34.580 council, this has been conveyed.
00:21:38.060 Thank you. And I take it, your answer would be the same for the passage at page three about there being
00:21:43.140 no consequences, legal or political, for state actors who conduct foreign interference. Have I
00:21:48.240 got that right?
00:21:49.620 Yes, Madam Commissioner. I elaborated on that point with previous questions, answers, sorry. But yes,
00:21:57.300 it is accurate to say that, you know, I am, I have said, I use these expressions that's, and indeed,
00:22:03.960 this one, very specifically, low risk, high reward endeavor.
00:22:07.140 Thank you.
00:22:08.260 So Trudeau says, no, no, no, I was never told that Canada's easy pickings. No one ever read me the
00:22:14.300 bedtime story. I mean, sure, I was given the memo, but I don't read that. I mean, come on, guys, I don't
00:22:19.660 read that. And no, my bedtime story reader is less trustworthy than me. Trust me, the lazy, the laziest
00:22:28.480 prime minister in history, perhaps? I don't read memos, because reading's for squares, and I'm the cool guy.
00:22:36.060 Trust me and believe me when I say, no, no, I didn't see that part. Or was he willfully blind,
00:22:43.440 of course, because he was the beneficiary? I mean, it's one thing for China to rob us blind of our 0.89
00:22:49.400 industrial secrets or intellectual property. They destroyed a company called Novotel, you might
00:22:56.380 remember, excuse me, Nortel. And that just benefits China. But in this case, the benefits to China
00:23:05.480 were also benefits to Trudeau, namely defeating conservative candidates in ridings with a high
00:23:13.700 Chinese Canadian population. So of course, Trudeau conveniently forgot or hid or redacted
00:23:22.000 any criticism of what China was doing, because he was the beneficiary of it.
00:23:26.460 He's literally the Manchurian candidate.
00:23:30.520 Yeah, and he used accusations of racism repeatedly to shut everybody up about it. He was calling
00:23:36.500 Chinese Canadians racist against Chinese people when they were raising questions about what was
00:23:43.040 going on in their own communities. And actually, that that lawyer there, Gib Van Ert, he's been a real
00:23:48.120 joy to watch, by the way. He is Michael Chong's lawyer. And he, in Justin Trudeau's testimony,
00:23:55.460 forced him to admit that reasonable questions about foreign interference and what China was doing
00:24:02.360 within Canadian democracy, he forced him to admit that a reasonable person would not call that racism.
00:24:07.880 However, Justin Trudeau repeatedly did it himself multiple times.
00:24:11.460 You know, I think China is obviously the greatest rival to the democratic West. 0.99
00:24:15.560 I know that some in the military industrial complex think Russia is, because they're,
00:24:20.700 you know, getting to play with their weapons. And there's a there's a hot war going on there.
00:24:25.860 And it's a proxy war. Ukrainians are doing the dying, but the Pentagon is doing the planning and 0.96
00:24:32.300 the strategizing and, and the military industrial complex is booming. I find that whole thing extremely
00:24:38.160 tragic. But I do not think that Russia is the grave threat of the 21st century towards Canada.
00:24:44.840 I think radical Islam is a threat, but the greatest persistent economic, military, cultural, 1.00
00:24:53.480 geopolitical threat to the West is so obviously China. And Trudeau refuses to acknowledge that he's 0.88
00:25:00.640 on alert for Russian disinformation. They're on guard for the Russians. But in the meantime,
00:25:06.560 he's accepting checks to the Trudeau Foundation from China. He's accepting bust in voters from China,
00:25:13.740 literally Chinese nationals getting on a bus and going to vote for his candidates. I think that
00:25:19.500 Trudeau has disgraced himself, not just to the country. But if I were a leader of the five eyes,
00:25:25.820 which if I recall, are Canada, the United States, UK, Australia, and I can't remember if the fifth is
00:25:32.520 France or New Zealand, forgive me, I can't remember which of the five, the fifth eye and the five 0.99
00:25:36.940 eyes are. But certainly if I was in UK, Australia, or US, and I saw this, I would say, part of me would
00:25:44.800 say, oh, we're safe because Trudeau is too stupid to read anything. So he's not going to leak our
00:25:50.440 secrets. But I'd say I can't trust Canada with this buffoon as the leader. He's turning a blind eye to
00:25:56.920 Chinese infiltration. He's on the other side of this battle. He's against us. I just don't know how 0.98
00:26:04.540 any of our allies could take Trudeau seriously. He denies being briefed by the CSIS director,
00:26:11.680 his bedtime story reader. He's not a librarian, by the way. This is the top spy agent in the country.
00:26:18.400 He's not Justin Trudeau's drag queen story hour reader. Justin Trudeau flatly denies being briefed
00:26:26.540 that China had clandestinely and deceptively, those are the words used,
00:26:32.220 foreign interfered in the 2019 and 2021 elections.
00:26:36.800 There we are. Yes. Director, it's the bullet point. We know that the PRC clandestinely and
00:26:44.040 deceptively interfered in both the 2019 and 2021 general elections. Is this knowledge something that
00:26:56.540 you or the service as a body have communicated to the Prime Minister or the Prime Minister's office?
00:27:05.800 Madam Commissioner, it is indeed something that has been communicated. I believe that I testified to
00:27:12.680 that in where I said in our assessment, we saw foreign interference in both the 2019 and 2021 elections.
00:27:22.580 However, I concur with the result of the panel, the conclusion of the panel, that this interference did
00:27:30.940 not amount to having the impact on the general election. So I think it's important to understand
00:27:40.040 that both statements, in my opinion, are true at the same time. We saw foreign interference during
00:27:48.260 those elections and that interference was indeed clandestine and deceptive. And at the same time,
00:27:55.100 that interference did not amount to have an impact on the integrity of the election.
00:28:03.320 And if I may just finally follow up on this one point, if you're able to say, Director, and I appreciate
00:28:09.520 you may not be, are you able to say whether the interference referred to in this bullet is limited to
00:28:16.620 Dawn Valley North in 2019 and Steveston or Richmond East in 2021 or whether it's broader?
00:28:24.700 I think, Madam Commissioner, the best way to answer the question is refer back to the summary
00:28:33.080 that the government has published in public to the commission as public, I made public
00:28:41.460 regarding the specific information on the other candidates and 13 staff members.
00:28:47.960 Understood. Thank you, Commissioner.
00:28:49.300 Sheila, what's another video? I mean, I've been following your tweets. And the reason I mentioned
00:28:53.600 Steve Chase is because I'm thinking, is this getting outside of the skeptical conservative
00:29:00.740 media space? I mean, just like the mainstream media is in its own little world, sometimes we have our
00:29:06.860 own echo chamber. Is this news getting to other people who aren't in our circle? And I think
00:29:13.320 maybe it is. What do you think?
00:29:16.260 I think this is international news. Even just as I was preparing for this interview, I wanted to see
00:29:22.060 what was being said about what I saw this morning in testimony. And it's in the BBC. It's in Reuters.
00:29:28.540 This is international news, that our prime minister was informed about foreign interference,
00:29:37.620 despite the fact that he says that he wasn't. And he is directly attempting, I think, to undermine
00:29:42.440 our CSIS director, who says that he personally informed Justin Trudeau orally, because that's how
00:29:47.620 he takes his briefings. It's really an astounding thing. He is attempting to throw our security
00:29:54.000 apparatus under the bus, because that's the only way out of this, is that it's not us accepting
00:30:00.300 foreign interference. It's them not telling us about it. 0.91
00:30:02.760 You know, forgive me this digression, but you made me think of the scene in the office,
00:30:11.060 you know, that comedy, where someone is explaining something to Michael. And Michael says,
00:30:16.160 explain it to me like I'm five. So the guy explains it to him and says, and then the next year,
00:30:21.480 and so Michael says, so now I'm six. Here, take a look at this clip.
00:30:26.420 We have a surplus of $4,300. We have to spend that by the end of the day, or it will be deducted
00:30:33.640 from next year's budget. Why don't you explain this to me like I'm five? Your mommy and daddy gave
00:30:39.600 you $10 to open up a lemonade stand. So you go out and you buy cups and you buy lemons and you buy
00:30:45.600 sugar. And now you find out that it only costs you $9. So you have an extra dollar. So you can give
00:30:52.480 that dollar back to mommy and daddy. But guess what? Next summer, I'll be six. And you ask them
00:30:58.080 for money, they're going to give you $9 because that's what they think it costs to run the stand.
00:31:01.880 So what you want to do is spend that dollar on something now so that your parents think that
00:31:07.920 it costs $10 to run the lemonade stand. So the dollar's a surplus. This is a surplus.
00:31:11.960 We have to spend that $4,300 by the end of the day, or it'll be deducted from next year's budget.
00:31:16.100 We should spend this money on a new copier, which we desperately need.
00:31:22.960 Okay. Break it down in terms of... Okay. I think I'm getting you.
00:31:28.700 That's Justin Trudeau. He wants to be so very serious. He wants to be a player. He wants to
00:31:36.080 be a decider. He wants to be more than just a mascot. He wants to be the prime minister.
00:31:40.520 But he's like a child. And I think it's sort of crazy how he's embraced that. Like he's not
00:31:47.500 pretending that he's read it. He's trying to make that into a virtue. No, I'm...
00:31:53.020 That's his defense.
00:31:53.620 Yeah. But in a way, he's telling us exactly who he is. It reminds me of when that conflict of
00:31:59.700 interest commissioner asked Trudeau, why were you taking $100,000, $200,000 free vacation from the
00:32:06.680 Aga Khan? And he said, well, because I don't really get into any details. If they were trying
00:32:11.560 to bribe me, I wouldn't even know what they're talking about. I'm too stupid. Other people
00:32:15.300 handle the details. I'm just into the relationships. He was serious when he said, I don't think about
00:32:21.240 monetary policy. He was serious when he says he leaves the tough stuff to other people.
00:32:28.660 He is serious. He is like a five or six year old child. And it's incredible that... I mean,
00:32:35.440 yes, Steve Chase is riding up a storm about this. But if this were a conservative prime minister,
00:32:42.020 if this were Donald Trump, or if this were... There would be immediate and widespread calls for his
00:32:48.320 resignation or if we were in such a system in impeachment. This is deeply embarrassing that
00:32:54.040 that is the head of our government.
00:32:57.500 It's akin to what the Democrats accused Donald Trump of with Russia, Russia, Russia, but there was
00:33:03.900 nothing there. Now we know there's literally something there. The CSIS director is saying
00:33:09.140 there's something there. Justin Trudeau is throwing the CSIS director under the bus while simultaneously
00:33:15.080 throwing himself under the bus because his defense is, I'm too stupid, so trust me. It's wild.
00:33:24.720 You know, by the way, the Canadian media was absolutely obsessed with Donald Trump's impeachment
00:33:30.200 and the Mueller inquiry into Russian collusion. I mean, the CBC for about four years probably covered
00:33:38.140 Donald Trump more than they covered Canadian politics. They were obsessed with it. And especially
00:33:43.140 this allegation of collusion, which by the way, the Mueller inquiry found did not happen. Here you have
00:33:49.020 in our own country, Chinese interference that actually made a difference. The warning bells were silenced by 0.93
00:33:57.220 Frito for his own benefit. And the CBC is, oh, well, yeah. I mean, it's just, they're not completely
00:34:02.720 ignoring the story, but I tell you, it would be a five alarm fire if it were any other party. If it were
00:34:08.400 Russian collusion with the conservatives, it would be all they talked about. This, this is incredible.
00:34:15.020 You know, at the very beginning of this commission, they brought up how maybe potentially Russia
00:34:21.620 had fomented some anti-vaccine stuff that maybe the People's Party of Canada had benefited from,
00:34:30.720 but there was no evidence to any of that. We have CSIS saying China has deceptively and clandestinely
00:34:41.000 meddled in the last two elections to the benefit of the liberals, transferred $250,000
00:34:49.420 to campaign operatives up to the campaign. There's another little sinister part in all of this, too.
00:34:57.220 CSIS, in their documents, said that it's not just that the targeted individuals, these Conservative Party
00:35:04.820 candidates, and Jenny Kwan as well from the NDP, are being targeted out of the consulate, surveilled
00:35:11.000 out of the consulate, and shut out of Chinese language media. They also said that there are co-opted
00:35:18.480 members of the campaign, of their campaigns, have been infiltrated by the Chinese government
00:35:26.380 to undermine them. They use the word co-opted staff in the targeted individuals' offices.
00:35:34.700 Unbelievable. Hey, throw to one last video clip, and then we'll let you go. 1.00
00:35:37.720 Okay, let's go to... Sorry, Olivia, Ezra just put me on the spot. Okay. Let's go to Justin Trudeau
00:35:46.960 saying that despite all the things that he heard about Handong and the bussing in of foreign
00:35:54.460 nationals into his... Foreign national high school students who went to a school outside of his
00:35:59.620 riding, but miraculously all lived inside of the riding, and they turned up on a bus on nomination
00:36:04.080 day, and nobody knows who paid for the bus, and none of that, Justin Trudeau says, rises
00:36:10.580 to the level where he would have reconsidered Handong's contaminated nomination.
00:36:16.680 Mr. Broadhurst met me at the airport in a holding room in a lounge on the government side of the
00:36:28.420 airport, the government terminal in the airport, to let me know of concerns that he had received
00:36:35.440 from the site task force and CSIS about the nomination campaign, the nomination election,
00:36:47.340 the nomination race contest in Don Valley North. He shared with me that
00:36:56.160 intelligence services had shared with him concerns, that Chinese officials in Canada
00:37:07.920 had been developing plans to possibly engage in interference in the nomination contest,
00:37:23.340 specifically by mobilizing buses filled with...
00:37:30.340 The challenge in this is always trying to pick out what I heard exactly then from what I knew
00:37:39.840 later, but I believe it was either buses full of students or buses filled with Chinese speakers or
00:37:47.020 Chinese diaspora members who would be mobilized to support Handong, who would have been mobilized to
00:37:54.840 support Handong in that nomination contest of a few weeks previous. I asked the extent to which
00:38:03.300 they were certain that it happened, the extent to which they were certain that China was indeed behind
00:38:09.120 the mobilizing of the mobilizing of the bus or buses. And I also asked whether or not CSIS had information that
00:38:18.120 Han Dong knew about this, whether he was a witting and aware that China had mobilized or Chinese officials had mobilized
00:38:28.120 buses for him or not. And the answers were not clear from CSIS at that point.
00:38:35.120 This was secret information that we could not share with the candidate in question, Mr. Dong, or the public at large in terms of what they were telling us about these concerns and these allegations.
00:38:51.120 Acting would be removing Handong as our official candidate. The other choice would be not to remove that candidate. But understanding that the decision to remove someone needed a high threshold, a threshold that incidentally,
00:39:20.120 incidentally, I have met and seen many other cases. As Liberal Party leader, I have on many, many different occasions have to ask people to step down or step away or desist as candidates for the Liberal Party. Most recently, it's the last election where we did that in the case of a downtown Toronto riding.
00:39:43.120 But in this case, I didn't feel that there was sufficient or sufficiently credible information that would justify this very significant step as to remove a candidate in these circumstances.
00:40:04.120 He, Justin Trudeau, is the Chinese asset. I was just thinking, he disqualifies candidates all the time. He interferes with nomination races all the time. He puts his handpicked team in all the time for trivial reasons, for personal reasons, for ideological reasons, for anti-democratic reasons. 0.57
00:40:21.120 Yeah, I was just going to say, Ezra, if Handong had been pro-life, he would have removed him. But being contaminated by Chinese money is fine. 0.99
00:40:29.460 Yeah. And to think that an emergency CSIS briefing to the head of the Liberal campaign, oh, no, that didn't rise to the level. I need it to be a very high level.
00:40:41.320 I disqualify anyone for personal, for any reason or no reason, but CSIS, no. And it's because Trudeau wanted Handong because he wanted to win with the Chinese government's help.
00:40:53.660 And he wanted to win. His interests were absolutely in synchronicity with China's interests. If this were Russia propping up an anti-Ukraine candidate in the Conservative or People's Party, he would have rung the alarm, had a press conference, called in the police, raided, police would have raided things with guns drawn.
00:41:18.560 No, no. This was to help Trudeau. So, of course, it didn't rise. I'm famous for my judgment in national security matters. Everyone knows I read my memo. No, what a joke. He has them read to him like bedtime stories.
00:41:32.240 This guy's a crook. Justin Trudeau was a crook on the same level that Richard Nixon was a crook. Richard Nixon never sold out his country to a foreign interest.
00:41:43.820 Richard Nixon may have known about the Watergate break-in, and that was a crime. But it wasn't the crime of treachery, of selling out your own country to a foreign country. Just unbelievable.
00:41:54.820 I look forward to seeing how the mainstream media covers this in the days ahead. Sheila, thanks for doing such a great job live-tweeing it and clipping those videos in real time, too. I really recommend people follow your Twitter feed.
00:42:05.520 Thanks, boss. It was a big job, but we have to tell the other side of the story.
00:42:09.860 We know the mainstream media journalists are watching the same feed that I was and reporting something entirely different sometimes.
00:42:16.060 Yeah, yeah. All right, there you have it. Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter.
00:42:19.300 I'm here in Toronto this week. I was in other cities, too, including in Calgary, where I went to the Stop the Carbon Tax protest on the highway west of the city.
00:42:38.980 And I was delighted that today was another day of the Strong and Free Conference, a conservative convention in Ottawa.
00:42:46.880 I wasn't there myself. I think I've been doing a little too much traveling. But our Alexa Lavoie was there, got some great interviews.
00:42:52.820 I encourage you to see her reports. And you know what I felt good about?
00:42:56.680 Although there were lots of lobbyists there, too, in the end, I felt good that there was actually some true conservative ideology, that they were actually talking about conservative ideas, that they were standing up to the carbon tax.
00:43:09.720 You know, I remember when it felt inevitable that the carbon tax would win and that side would win.
00:43:17.080 And, you know, one of the guest speakers at that conference was Tony Abbott, the former Australian prime minister who rescinded their carbon tax.
00:43:24.480 It can be done. And I don't know if you saw the headline, but it's shocking, truly.
00:43:30.040 Jagmeet Singh says, well, maybe he's against the carbon tax now, too.
00:43:34.440 He realizes what a loser it is, how most Canadians are against it, even other parties like other premiers are turning against it.
00:43:41.440 And it goes to show that when losers like Aaron O'Toole and Andrew Scheer bend the knee on the carbon tax or all the compromising they do to win over the center, they don't win over the center.
00:43:55.000 They just move the center further to the left and they keep on losing and losing.
00:43:59.640 But for the first time, the conservatives had a truly conservative leader in a decade.
00:44:05.340 The party's doing well.
00:44:06.680 Now, it's also because Justin Trudeau is doing so poorly, but still, you can only imagine if Aaron O'Toole was the candidate for the conservatives now, he would be a pro-carbon tax, pro-vaccine, pro-big government, pro-censorship candidate.
00:44:21.420 Super gross.
00:44:22.240 So I feel good about the way things are going.
00:44:24.780 That's the show for today.
00:44:26.660 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:44:32.420 We'll see you next time.