Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rebel News asks Poilievre a question： Should non-citizens who call for violence be deported？

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Pierre Polyev makes an announcement about the security of Jewish synagogues,

00:00:04.860 but the media party has other things they want to talk about.

00:00:08.220 It's November 23rd, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:11.240 You're fighting for freedom! 0.97

00:00:14.080 Shame on you, you censorious thug! 0.99

00:00:25.740 Standing outside a large Jewish synagogue in North Toronto. 0.99

00:00:29.460 This synagogue itself, as far as I know, has not been attacked by the anti-Semitic mobs

00:00:35.020 that have been marching in the regular hate marches,

00:00:38.320 although I do notice they have a high-security system, video cameras everywhere,

00:00:43.960 panels of different videos, and pictures of, I suppose, people who have threatened them before

00:00:49.520 and that they should keep an eye out for.

00:00:51.500 But no Molotov cocktails or shootings here, unlike what we've seen in Montreal.

00:00:56.980 There's a police car driving by.

00:00:58.820 I'm glad you want to catch a quick look at that.

00:01:01.560 So there are patrols of police in the neighborhood, and just up Bathurst Street,

00:01:05.880 there is a police truck that's permanently parked, lights on,

00:01:11.160 just as a signal to the Jewish community that police are nearby,

00:01:15.060 and a signal to would-be vandals or threateners that the police are nearby.

00:01:19.380 Anyways, the reason I'm here today is because Pierre Polyev, along with one MP named Melissa Lansman,

00:01:26.600 the MP for Thornhill, and Roman Babber, who was the former provincial politician who stood up against the COVID lockdowns,

00:01:34.220 he's now running federally against the incumbent liberal Yara Sachs.

00:01:39.400 Yara Sachs, you'll know her by the only thing she's ever done that was noteworthy,

00:01:44.060 which was to stand up in the House of Commons, I chuckle whenever I think about it,

00:01:47.340 and claim that the trucker convoy, by saying honk honk, was actually called for Heil Hitler.

00:01:55.100 I know you don't believe me, that's why I've got to show you the videotape, take a look.

00:01:59.320 How much vitriol do we have to see of honk honk, which is an acronym for Heil Hitler,

00:02:05.940 do we need to see by these protesters on social media? 0.94

00:02:10.520 Yeah, so she's the MP for this writing, absolutely useless as you can imagine. 0.99

00:02:14.380 So Pierre Polyev, along with the two Jewish candidates that I mentioned, Lansman and Babber,

00:02:20.080 were here to make an announcement.

00:02:21.640 It was not a public event, only journalists were invited, and we were invited too,

00:02:25.900 and since our office is not too far away, I thought I'd personally come and see what's what.

00:02:30.520 There were about six other TV cameras there, CBC, CTV, I presume one of the cameras was global.

00:02:36.700 Canadian Press, or CP, was there as well, as well as a reporter from the local Jewish newspaper.

00:02:43.260 So Pierre Polyev made his announcement.

00:02:45.620 At several points, he was going to declare the Iranian Republican Guard a terror group, as other Western allies have.

00:02:54.340 He was going to kick out the 700 Iranian terror agents that are operating at will in Canada

00:03:00.060 because Trudeau refuses to criminalize the terror group.

00:03:03.400 He's going to speed up security infrastructure for synagogues and other houses of worship, like we see here.

00:03:08.580 And finally, he was going to have some integrated anti-hate task force.

00:03:13.860 I'm not quite sure what that means.

00:03:16.080 And yeah, I'll let you listen to him.

00:03:17.660 He gave the announcement in French and then in English.

00:03:20.900 I'm not going to play the whole thing, but I just want to give you a little bit of a taste of what he said in English.

00:03:27.020 But the real story is what came next.

00:03:29.560 Let me just show you a couple minutes of the statement.

00:03:31.360 But the reason I'm doing my show on this is what happened after his statement.

00:03:35.220 So here's the statement.

00:03:36.140 I'm very honored to be joined today by the Common Sense Conservative Deputy Leader

00:03:41.900 and Member of Parliament for Thornhill, Melissa Lantzman.

00:03:47.760 We have also Common Sense Conservative candidate for York Centre, Roman Babber,

00:03:53.580 former MPP, lawyer and Raptors fan.

00:03:56.200 Here we are gathered to present a common sense plan to protect the freedom and security of Canadians in these times.

00:04:07.120 After eight years of Justin Trudeau, Canada is a more dangerous place.

00:04:13.080 Hate crimes are up 150 percent after his economy has caused more desperation.

00:04:18.880 His divisive, censorial policies have turned Canadian against Canadian.

00:04:27.240 And his weak laws have allowed criminals and other violent operators to walk freely in our streets

00:04:34.840 and terrorize their fellow citizens.

00:04:38.080 So today, Conservatives present a common sense action plan to protect our people in these times.

00:04:45.840 Our first proposal is we want the government to immediately ban the Iranian terrorist group, the IRGC.

00:04:56.340 This is the most sophisticated, well-financed terror group on planet Earth.

00:05:02.160 It was behind coordinating the October 7th attacks in Israel.

00:05:07.600 It coordinates with other terrorist groups like Hezbollah, which are criminalized in Canada.

00:05:14.380 According to a recent Global News report, there are 700 regime and IRGC agents operating with impunity,

00:05:23.620 using stolen money, terrorizing our Persian and Jewish populations and putting Canadians at risk on our soil. 1.00

00:05:31.840 I will add, this terrorist group fired a missile at a civilian aircraft, killing over 100 Canadians.

00:05:41.520 This was almost four years ago.

00:05:45.000 Can you imagine what kind of prime minister would allow a terrorist group to fire a missile at killing our people?

00:05:52.680 And four years later, he lets them legally operate in our country with impunity.

00:05:58.060 This is a disgrace, and it is time that Justin Trudeau stood up to defend our people

00:06:03.480 against these IRGC murderers and terrorists by banning them today.

00:06:09.520 And we should work to kick out every single regime agent or terrorist that is operating in this country, 0.99

00:06:16.880 of which 700 have been identified.

00:06:19.940 Second, we need to establish a foreign influence registry,

00:06:23.400 something the government promised it would do back in June.

00:06:25.400 We have multiple Beijing-controlled police stations harassing the Chinese population in Canada.

00:06:37.240 We have, as I said, 700 Iranian regime agents harassing Persian and Jewish Canadians.

00:06:43.620 And countless others may be operating as well.

00:06:46.720 Second, we want a foreign agent registry, which requires that anyone who works for a foreign dictatorship register

00:06:55.320 have their names publicized and exposed.

00:06:58.300 Third, the United Kingdom has said that Canada is the likely spot for a terrorist attack.

00:07:06.080 Now, Canada's government says that there's only a medium risk.

00:07:09.940 Well, the prime minister said the other day that there has been a terrorist attack on our people.

00:07:15.840 There was a terrorist attack against, there are multiple terrorist attacks against synagogues and schools in Montreal,

00:07:24.700 according to the prime minister, while he says the risk level is only medium.

00:07:29.400 We also have terrorist attacks that happened against innocent Muslims in Quebec City and in London, Ontario.

00:07:36.600 And we've had churches burned down.

00:07:39.060 We need to have a review of Canada's assessment of the risk of an attack in this country.

00:07:45.840 Fourth, we need to remove red tape from the security infrastructure program,

00:07:50.840 which protects places of worship and other community centers from attacks.

00:07:55.860 That means quickly approving funding to protect our people.

00:08:01.520 There's one mosque I visited where their people were mowed down by a car,

00:08:05.040 and now by a terrorist who came onto their property.

00:08:09.060 They've been waiting two years to get protection for their place of worship,

00:08:13.580 but the whole application is stuck in more red tape and bureaucracy.

00:08:17.400 You want to streamline it so that all places of worship, synagogues, mosques, temples, gurdwaras, churches,

00:08:23.280 can protect themselves against future attacks.

00:08:26.640 And finally, we want to create a task force against anti-hate violence

00:08:32.960 that would coordinate federal intelligence and law enforcement with local police.

00:08:39.660 The risk we have is that federal intelligence bureaucracies in Ottawa may be aware of a potential risk,

00:08:47.720 but if they don't tell the local police of where that risk could manifest itself,

00:08:56.140 the attack could happen before anyone has a chance to prevent it.

00:09:01.260 We want one coordinated task force that will bring together law enforcement at all three levels of government

00:09:06.640 to share intelligence, interrupt attacks, and protect our people.

00:09:11.400 Well, I made sure I had the first question, and you can imagine it was about something

00:09:16.260 that we at Rebel News have been talking about, namely DeportHamas.com.

00:09:20.440 That's our petition to have non-citizens who are here in Canada, 1.00

00:09:25.180 and frankly in the United States and Australia and the United Kingdom,

00:09:28.200 non-citizens who participate in these hate marches.

00:09:33.080 I believe in what the Americans call the First Amendment,

00:09:36.380 what here in Canada is Section 2B of our Charter of Rights, namely freedom of speech.

00:09:40.800 And you've heard me say it myself.

00:09:43.260 Freedom of speech is the gift you have to give your enemy if you want it for yourself.

00:09:47.080 You have to tolerate even odious speech as long as it doesn't rise to the level of a violent threat

00:09:53.000 or something like that.

00:09:54.700 But what about non-citizens? 0.92

00:09:56.940 If someone is here not as a member of our, quote, family, but rather as a house guest,

00:10:01.620 if we invited them into our family home just for the purpose of attending university on a student visa

00:10:08.840 or a temporary foreign worker, if they are not Canadian citizens,

00:10:12.260 if they are here at our pleasure, can we not revoke that and kick them out

00:10:17.040 if they're engaging in these hate rallies?

00:10:19.120 Because it seems like an enormous number of people marching in the streets are not actually Canadians.

00:10:24.360 So here's my question to Pierre Polyev, and here's his answer on the subject.

00:10:28.300 What do you think of it?

00:10:29.300 Yes.

00:10:29.560 Hi, Mr. Polyev, as I'm Levan from Rebel News.

00:10:33.080 You mentioned certain things that rise to the level of a crime.

00:10:36.720 But there are many things that aren't quite at that level.

00:10:39.520 For example, people marching, calling for an intifada,

00:10:43.060 or using language that may not rise to the level of a criminal prosecution.

00:10:48.640 And you've said before that you respect freedom of speech even for odious views.

00:10:52.640 But what about people who are not Canadian citizens, who are foreign nationals,

00:10:58.440 perhaps here on a student visa to go to our schools,

00:11:01.680 and instead of studying at university, they're participating in these hate marches, 0.99

00:11:05.800 intimidating people, Jewish restaurants, calling for the death of Jews. 0.97

00:11:10.840 Again, not criminal level, but these are foreign nationals. 0.97

00:11:15.260 Would you support canceling the visas and deporting foreign nationals 1.00

00:11:21.780 who, instead of doing what they came here to do, are spreading hate at these pro-Hamas rallies?

00:11:28.780 Thank you for your question.

00:11:29.860 You raise a number of different issues.

00:11:31.300 One, if someone comes here on a student visa and they're not actually a student,

00:11:34.220 then on that basis alone, they should go home.

00:11:37.700 We don't want to have—one of the problems we have with the student visa program 0.99

00:11:40.880 is that it has been used as a fraudulent point of entry,

00:11:45.280 particularly for corrupt employers trying to get labor from abroad.

00:11:49.200 So, in general, we believe that we should shut down all the fraud in the student visa program,

00:11:54.100 and anyone who claims to come here to study that is not actually studying should not be here.

00:11:59.180 With regards to protests, I do believe in freedom of speech.

00:12:03.880 I believe people should be allowed to say things I disagree with,

00:12:06.180 even things that I find appalling.

00:12:07.780 That is, the price of living in a free country.

00:12:12.420 The alternative is to have state censors who then decide what kind of speech is acceptable and what is not,

00:12:21.600 and who chooses those state censors.

00:12:23.900 And then those censors will pick and choose, based on their own political views,

00:12:28.740 which speech is allowed and which speech is not.

00:12:31.340 That's why I believe in freedom of expression.

00:12:33.840 You mentioned, for example, if someone stands up and calls for violence against a particular group,

00:12:40.800 they can, under the current criminal code, be charged with incitement.

00:12:45.400 Those provisions already exist.

00:12:48.260 And I would encourage law enforcement to make sure those provisions are upheld for any and all people

00:12:56.120 who incite, deliberately incite, violence against an identifiable group,

00:13:02.080 because that has been criminalized for many years.

00:13:04.800 And anyone who is convicted of that, who is not a citizen, should obviously not be in Canada.

00:13:10.760 I knew he was going to talk about freedom of speech, and I believe in freedom of speech.

00:13:13.760 He was talking about kicking out foreign students who don't actually go to school,

00:13:17.660 but that wasn't really my question.

00:13:19.620 I'm not saying that these foreign students don't also go to school.

00:13:23.320 They're not going to these hate marches, you know, 9 to 5 every day.

00:13:27.880 They are doing their studies, but then just for the weekend, larks, 0.97

00:13:31.120 they're walking around shouting at Jews.

00:13:32.940 So I don't think Pierre Paulyev answered my question directly,

00:13:36.440 and I tried to get a follow-up, but I was not permitted.

00:13:40.160 Here's how my attempt went.

00:13:42.040 Well, at least I tried.

00:13:45.160 There was one other question about the Jewish issue.

00:13:48.920 Again, we're in a Jewish synagogue with two Jewish candidates 0.88

00:13:51.840 talking about protecting the Jewish community.

00:13:54.580 So there was a reporter from the Canadian Jewish News,

00:13:57.020 which is what it sounds like, asking a question.

00:14:00.160 And again, Pierre Paulyev said he's for freedom of speech.

00:14:03.060 I'll let you know how that exchange goes.

00:14:05.080 Lila, Sarah, Canadian Jewish News.

00:14:06.640 You spoke about the demonstrations and freedom of speech,

00:14:10.300 but we've seen multiple large demonstrations in Toronto and Montreal,

00:14:14.840 certainly that are quite frightening for the community.

00:14:18.140 Would you take any action against these large demonstrations?

00:14:23.700 People have the right to demonstrate as long as they do so peacefully.

00:14:28.640 The line is drawn when someone is violent towards someone else,

00:14:34.240 when they inhibit a business from legitimately operating.

00:14:37.860 At the same time, I think we need to be,

00:14:42.860 when we see things that we disagree with,

00:14:45.200 I have the freedom of expression to condemn those things.

00:14:48.000 And that's what I have done.

00:14:48.960 When I have seen chants that I disagree with,

00:14:53.380 I condemn those chants.

00:14:54.860 When I see political messages that I disagree with,

00:14:59.120 I condemn them with my words.

00:15:00.440 We live in a free country,

00:15:03.540 and that means people are free to say things that I don't like,

00:15:06.720 and I am free to condemn them for doing so.

00:15:09.040 So that was the local reporter for the little Jewish newspaper here in town.

00:15:13.260 But what followed were, like I said,

00:15:16.380 there was CBC, CTV, Canadian Press,

00:15:18.260 all the mainstream media were here.

00:15:19.520 I tell you, not a single question was about the Jewish community or Hamas or terrorism

00:15:27.460 or the announcement that Polyev just made.

00:15:30.080 None of it.

00:15:31.500 Every single regime journalist,

00:15:34.340 every single Justin Journo,

00:15:36.900 and you know that just this week Trudeau announced

00:15:39.520 he's going to triple the subsidies to regime media.

00:15:43.640 And, oh my God, you could feel it.

00:15:46.040 I mean, even if you disagree with Pierre Polyev,

00:15:48.280 if you think he's doing too much or too little or doing the wrong things,

00:15:51.520 he came here with an announcement in a Jewish synagogue

00:15:54.020 that has surveillance on it because it's under threat.

00:15:57.920 Not a single question.

00:15:59.260 The media doesn't care about that.

00:16:01.580 There were actually two questions about why Pierre Polyev

00:16:04.740 doesn't support a carbon tax for Ukraine.

00:16:09.120 I'll just let you see the questions.

00:16:10.980 I'm not going to spend a lot of time on it.

00:16:12.700 So that's what the media wanted to talk about instead.

00:16:14.980 Take a look at question number one.

00:16:16.960 Can you explain why the Conservative Party voted against

00:16:19.400 the new Ukraine-Canada free trade agreement?

00:16:22.560 We didn't vote against a free trade agreement.

00:16:24.660 We brought in the free trade agreement.

00:16:26.760 We voted against Justin Trudeau forcing a carbon tax

00:16:29.760 into that pre-existing agreement.

00:16:33.280 Conservatives understand how devastating the carbon tax has been for Canadians.

00:16:37.680 It's caused two million people to go to a food bank every single month. 0.59

00:16:43.500 Seven million Canadians not eating enough to stay healthy.

00:16:49.200 We never had these problems before, Justin Trudeau and his costly carbon tax.

00:16:53.300 Now he wants to quadruple the tax.

00:16:55.300 And just to show you how pathologically obsessed Trudeau is with his tax,

00:16:59.780 he did something that has never been done in the history of trade agreements,

00:17:04.160 which is to put a carbon tax in one.

00:17:06.640 The people of Ukraine are now going to, 0.91

00:17:09.560 he expects them to rebuild from a war

00:17:11.840 with a devastating and crippling tax on their energy.

00:17:16.320 The Ukrainian farmers,

00:17:18.120 he expects them to pay a carbon tax

00:17:19.920 while they're trying to feed their hungry people. 0.71

00:17:21.720 This is cruel and frankly it is disgusting

00:17:26.240 that Trudeau's ideological obsession

00:17:29.540 with taxing working class people,

00:17:32.200 seniors and suffering families

00:17:34.720 has come ahead of what should have been a free trade agreement.

00:17:39.620 Thank you.

00:17:40.780 And here's question number two.

00:17:42.600 CBC, if you could in English and French.

00:17:45.040 Just going back to the carbon question.

00:17:47.580 Yes.

00:17:47.800 The deal refers to promoting carbon pricing

00:17:52.280 and it's something that Ukraine has already,

00:17:55.740 or something Ukraine has already offered to do

00:17:57.640 in their talks with the EU.

00:18:01.160 So is that a fair thing for the government to ask of Ukraine?

00:18:07.760 No.

00:18:09.140 No.

00:18:10.420 No, it's not.

00:18:11.760 There's no reason to promote a carbon tax

00:18:14.400 for Ukrainians or for Canadians.

00:18:16.980 The carbon tax is crippling our people.

00:18:20.120 It's driving up the cost of food, gas and groceries.

00:18:23.320 It's driven a record,

00:18:24.540 smashing 2 million Canadians to the food bank.

00:18:28.020 Now Trudeau wants to quadruple the carbon tax

00:18:30.700 on your food, gas and groceries.

00:18:33.720 This is going to force seniors 0.63

00:18:35.620 to choose between eating and heating.

00:18:38.720 A better thing to do

00:18:40.080 would be for him to amend the agreement,

00:18:43.240 throw that carbon tax clause out,

00:18:45.080 and to top it off,

00:18:47.380 to pass Bill C-234,

00:18:50.400 which would take the carbon tax off our farmers

00:18:55.220 so that they can feed us more affordably.

00:18:57.920 Thank you.

00:18:58.280 They were literally fighting with him

00:19:00.660 about why he doesn't insist

00:19:02.520 that Ukraine brings in a carbon tax.

00:19:05.520 I was thinking,

00:19:06.260 what planet am I in?

00:19:07.840 In what possible world

00:19:09.420 is that newsworthy at all,

00:19:12.940 let alone for this event?

00:19:14.800 I think my favorite part,

00:19:16.200 and I got to say,

00:19:17.060 I was there and I was representing Rebel News

00:19:19.480 and I had my official microphone.

00:19:20.940 I was doing street journalism,

00:19:22.520 citizen journalism,

00:19:23.180 like my friend David Menzies

00:19:24.480 and the rest of our team normally does.

00:19:26.000 So I was trying to be on my best behavior.

00:19:27.740 I watched this exchange with Canadian press

00:19:32.340 and I did my best not to laugh out loud

00:19:35.160 because I was being very professional

00:19:36.900 and very serious.

00:19:37.900 I want to show you,

00:19:39.000 again,

00:19:39.360 so this was about

00:19:40.920 how to protect the Jewish community,

00:19:43.680 especially here in Toronto,

00:19:44.540 large Jewish community,

00:19:45.620 from these hate marches

00:19:46.760 and from the Molotov cocktails

00:19:48.260 and the shootings we've seen in Montreal.

00:19:49.980 That's what it was about.

00:19:50.940 Again,

00:19:51.220 you can criticize that

00:19:52.360 or ask other questions.

00:19:53.380 I did.

00:19:54.140 Not a single regime journalist did.

00:19:55.960 Here's the Canadian press asking Pierre Polyev

00:19:59.600 why he called that bizarre car crash

00:20:02.980 an explosion yesterday at the border crossing,

00:20:05.900 why he called that a possible act of terrorism.

00:20:09.700 I want to play the whole thing for you

00:20:11.740 and you'll see the CP reporter

00:20:13.160 got a supplementary question,

00:20:14.460 even if I didn't,

00:20:15.480 but I wish this would have gone on much longer.

00:20:18.300 This was the most delightful thing

00:20:21.640 I have seen in days.

00:20:23.940 Well,

00:20:24.240 I mean,

00:20:24.480 there's a lot of wonderful things,

00:20:25.500 so maybe it's not in days,

00:20:26.980 but certainly today.

00:20:28.000 This was my favorite thing I've seen today.

00:20:30.100 Watch Pierre Polyev go back and forth

00:20:32.460 with a poor schlep from Canadian press

00:20:35.040 who very clearly was given a job,

00:20:38.340 attack Pierre Polyev.

00:20:40.620 You tell me how you think it went.

00:20:42.500 Hi,

00:20:42.940 Paola de Reggio

00:20:43.640 with the Canadian press.

00:20:44.940 Do you think it was responsible

00:20:50.500 responsible for you to call yesterday's explosion

00:20:53.740 by the customs,

00:20:55.060 by the checkpoint at the Rainbow Bridge,

00:20:56.940 terrorism,

00:20:57.900 when no U.S. or Canadian officials said that was,

00:21:01.100 like, authorities said that was the case,

00:21:02.520 and when the New York governor

00:21:03.900 also said there was no evidence

00:21:05.720 to suggest terrorism activity?

00:21:07.080 Actually,

00:21:07.760 you're wrong. 0.83

00:21:08.260 Are you with CP?

00:21:09.660 Okay,

00:21:10.020 so CP,

00:21:10.720 by the way,

00:21:11.140 CP,

00:21:11.520 just for everyone's knowledge,

00:21:13.000 did have to make three corrections

00:21:14.980 for falsehoods

00:21:16.540 that they put into a single article.

00:21:18.260 I think that might be unprecedented.

00:21:20.420 I'm actually thinking about checking

00:21:22.220 with the Guinness Book of World Records

00:21:23.740 to see

00:21:24.260 if there's ever been a news agency

00:21:26.200 that has had to issue

00:21:27.220 three corrections

00:21:28.440 for patent falsehoods

00:21:30.540 that they admit

00:21:31.160 they had been made

00:21:32.460 in one single article,

00:21:33.440 and now you've made

00:21:34.120 yet another falsehood

00:21:35.280 in your question.

00:21:37.380 Where you are wrong

00:21:38.700 is that CTV reported

00:21:40.460 that the government of Canada

00:21:41.600 was presuming

00:21:43.020 that the incident was terrorist.

00:21:45.260 So,

00:21:45.880 yeah,

00:21:46.160 that was,

00:21:46.420 and that's what I said

00:21:46.980 in my remarks.

00:21:48.180 You're right.

00:21:49.240 It was a media report.

00:21:50.520 But it's citing media reports

00:21:51.820 and not...

00:21:53.020 Which is what I said.

00:21:54.100 In the House,

00:21:54.800 I said there are media reports.

00:21:57.420 And you think

00:21:58.040 that's a responsible thing

00:21:58.980 to go on

00:21:59.440 to make that kind of a statement

00:22:01.220 at the time

00:22:01.740 without speaking...

00:22:02.880 What kind of statement?

00:22:04.680 Calling something terroristic.

00:22:05.840 I didn't.

00:22:07.700 I said there were

00:22:08.720 media reports.

00:22:10.400 That's the distinction

00:22:11.180 we're making?

00:22:11.640 Okay.

00:22:12.160 No,

00:22:12.440 there's no distinction.

00:22:13.940 What I said,

00:22:15.960 and I was right,

00:22:17.420 was that there were

00:22:18.300 media reports

00:22:19.180 of a terror-related event.

00:22:23.600 By your admission,

00:22:25.740 there were media reports

00:22:26.900 of a terror-related event.

00:22:29.760 And that media report,

00:22:31.520 according to CTV,

00:22:32.440 unless you're questioning

00:22:33.280 their integrity now,

00:22:35.040 came from security officials

00:22:37.360 in the Trudeau government.

00:22:39.600 So do you think

00:22:40.360 the CTV was irresponsible

00:22:41.660 in putting out that tweet?

00:22:46.240 Do you think

00:22:46.900 it was a responsible comment

00:22:47.900 to make it in the House of Commons?

00:22:48.840 Sorry, I have already answered that.

00:22:51.700 Do you think CTV was irresponsible

00:22:53.260 to put that tweet out?

00:22:55.300 That's none of my business.

00:22:57.080 That's not for me to comment.

00:22:59.360 Well, you just did comment.

00:23:04.300 Okay.

00:23:04.660 I just hope you're not going

00:23:06.660 to print something

00:23:07.160 that you have to apologize

00:23:08.000 for again.

00:23:09.040 Okay.

00:23:09.840 That was absolutely wonderful,

00:23:11.620 and it was actually

00:23:12.160 my favorite moment

00:23:13.040 of the entire press conference

00:23:14.260 because it shows to me

00:23:15.940 that Pierre Polyev knows

00:23:17.560 that their real enemy

00:23:19.140 in this election campaign

00:23:20.440 is not actually Justin Trudeau.

00:23:23.260 Justin Trudeau is disgraced.

00:23:25.580 He's discredited.

00:23:26.900 Even liberal voters

00:23:27.880 say he is phony

00:23:28.800 and inauthentic.

00:23:30.300 He's never been this low

00:23:31.200 in the polls.

00:23:32.120 His own MPs

00:23:33.180 and cabinet ministers

00:23:33.960 are grumbling about him.

00:23:35.440 He's hated on the streets.

00:23:37.300 People jeer him

00:23:38.200 from the right and the left.

00:23:39.980 No, the real enemy

00:23:41.220 against Pierre Polyev

00:23:42.480 were those six other cameras

00:23:44.200 in the room,

00:23:45.080 and he knew it,

00:23:46.780 and the fact that he was willing

00:23:48.200 to go on the offensive

00:23:49.280 against CP proves to me

00:23:51.440 he will not make the mistakes

00:23:53.560 that Aaron O'Toole

00:23:54.600 and Andrew Scheer made before him

00:23:56.360 thinking they could win them over.

00:23:58.220 I think they really like me.

00:23:59.960 I think I'm really

00:24:00.800 getting through to them.

00:24:01.980 No, they hate you,

00:24:03.440 and Pierre Polyev treated them

00:24:05.060 the right way he treated them.

00:24:07.280 I only wish he had an apple.

00:24:09.140 I think Pierre Polyev,

00:24:10.480 when he does his press conferences,

00:24:12.300 should carry an apple,

00:24:13.760 and if a reporter starts

00:24:15.040 getting stroppy like that,

00:24:17.040 Polyev should take out the apple,

00:24:18.640 and if the reporter

00:24:19.600 keeps going on like that,

00:24:20.960 Polyev should say,

00:24:21.640 I'm going to take a bite.

00:24:22.640 I'm going to take a bite.

00:24:23.780 You know what I'm talking about, right?

00:24:25.300 This exchange in British Columbia

00:24:26.820 about a month ago

00:24:27.900 that was just absolutely classic.

00:24:29.900 Remember this?

00:24:32.280 On the topic,

00:24:33.840 I mean,

00:24:34.020 in terms of your sort of strategy

00:24:35.940 currently,

00:24:36.740 you're obviously taking

00:24:37.640 the populist pathway.

00:24:40.460 What does that mean?

00:24:41.100 Well, appealing to people's

00:24:45.520 more emotional levels,

00:24:46.960 I would guess.

00:24:48.540 What do you mean by that?

00:24:49.340 Certainly you tap

00:24:51.660 very strong ideological language

00:24:53.680 quite frequently.

00:24:54.900 Like what?

00:24:57.300 Left wing,

00:24:58.420 you know,

00:24:58.700 this and that,

00:24:59.580 right wing,

00:25:00.200 I mean,

00:25:00.760 it's that type of ideological thing.

00:25:02.940 I never really talk about

00:25:03.740 left or right.

00:25:04.260 I don't really believe in that.

00:25:05.800 Okay.

00:25:06.600 A lot of people would say

00:25:08.380 that you're simply taking

00:25:09.440 a page out of the

00:25:10.300 Donald Trump book.

00:25:12.020 Probably like which people

00:25:13.040 would say that.

00:25:14.220 Well,

00:25:14.620 I'm sure a great many Canadians,

00:25:17.120 but...

00:25:17.800 Like who?

00:25:19.320 I don't know who,

00:25:20.440 but...

00:25:20.900 Well,

00:25:21.060 you're the one

00:25:21.400 who asked the question,

00:25:22.360 so you must know somebody.

00:25:24.320 Okay.

00:25:25.360 I'm sure there's some out there,

00:25:26.820 but anyways,

00:25:27.500 the point of this question is,

00:25:29.600 I mean,

00:25:30.480 why should Canadians 1.00

00:25:32.240 trust you with their vote

00:25:34.160 given,

00:25:36.220 you know,

00:25:36.860 not just the sort of

00:25:38.320 ideological inclination

00:25:39.720 in terms of

00:25:40.400 taking the page

00:25:41.220 out of Donald Trump's book,

00:25:42.420 but also...

00:25:42.760 What are you talking about?

00:25:43.560 What page?

00:25:44.180 What page?

00:25:44.640 Can you give me a page?

00:25:45.380 Give me the page.

00:25:46.600 You keep saying that.

00:25:47.760 In terms of turning things

00:25:48.920 quite dramatically

00:25:49.640 in terms of Trudeau

00:25:51.360 and the left wing

00:25:52.880 and all of this,

00:25:53.540 I mean,

00:25:53.740 you make quite a,

00:25:54.980 you know,

00:25:55.300 it's quite a play

00:25:56.460 that you make on it.

00:25:58.020 So I'm just wondering.

00:25:59.040 I'm not sure.

00:25:59.060 I don't know

00:25:59.740 what your question is.

00:26:01.240 Then forget that.

00:26:02.020 Why should Canadians 1.00

00:26:02.960 trust you with their vote?

00:26:05.700 Common sense.

00:26:06.960 Okay.

00:26:07.200 Common sense

00:26:08.940 for a change.

00:26:10.900 We're going to make

00:26:11.720 common sense

00:26:12.240 common in this country.

00:26:13.900 We don't have

00:26:14.480 any common sense

00:26:15.900 in the current government.

00:26:17.340 You know,

00:26:18.060 the guy prints

00:26:18.800 $600 billion

00:26:19.700 and grows our money supply

00:26:21.540 by 32%

00:26:22.580 in three years.

00:26:24.700 That's growing the money

00:26:25.860 eight times faster

00:26:27.720 than the economy.

00:26:29.260 No wonder

00:26:29.700 we have the worst

00:26:30.540 inflation in four decades.

00:26:33.140 I'm going to cap spending,

00:26:34.380 cut waste

00:26:34.860 so that we can balance

00:26:36.160 the budget

00:26:36.540 and bring down

00:26:37.020 inflation and interest rates.

00:26:38.260 You'll want to be able

00:26:38.800 to pay your mortgage again.

00:26:39.880 You want to be able

00:26:40.400 to afford rent.

00:26:41.480 Then you have to vote

00:26:42.200 for Pierre Polyev

00:26:43.040 because I'm the only one

00:26:44.540 with a common sense plan

00:26:46.880 that will bring back

00:26:48.180 the buying power

00:26:49.060 of your paycheck.

00:26:49.680 Yeah, the rest of the questions

00:26:51.000 were completely off point.

00:26:53.000 One of them

00:26:53.440 was a CBC reporter.

00:26:55.820 I think it was CBC or CTV.

00:26:57.220 It's all a blur.

00:26:57.940 They're all the monolith

00:26:59.160 saying,

00:27:00.360 someone got a mean phone call.

00:27:02.820 Is this,

00:27:03.320 are you to blame?

00:27:04.480 Here's the question.

00:27:05.540 Take a look.

00:27:06.080 This question is from

00:27:07.540 Kevin Gallagher of CTV News.

00:27:09.600 The independent senators group

00:27:11.040 are accusing your house leader

00:27:12.320 Andrew Scheer

00:27:13.160 of tweeting out

00:27:13.980 a most wanted poster

00:27:15.220 of two senators

00:27:16.520 encouraging people to call them

00:27:18.080 and ask them

00:27:19.040 why they shut down debate

00:27:20.180 on Bill C-234.

00:27:22.260 It resulted in a threatening

00:27:23.700 phone call

00:27:24.260 to one senator's office

00:27:25.480 that resulted in police

00:27:26.540 telling her to leave her home.

00:27:28.060 Did this tactic go too far?

00:27:29.840 You know,

00:27:30.400 I probably have had a long answer.

00:27:32.160 I'll just show you the part

00:27:32.940 where he says,

00:27:33.400 yeah, we all get threats.

00:27:34.900 It's too bad.

00:27:35.460 Take a look.

00:27:36.400 If someone has been threatened,

00:27:37.740 then they should be,

00:27:39.660 then whoever uttered that threat

00:27:41.740 should be held accountable.

00:27:43.640 I receive threats all the time,

00:27:45.680 as do members of my caucus.

00:27:48.660 It's terrible when it happens.

00:27:51.220 That does not change the fact

00:27:52.980 that taxing our farmers

00:27:54.480 makes food more expensive

00:27:56.120 for everyone.

00:27:57.540 And that's why senators 0.86

00:27:58.760 should immediately pass

00:27:59.980 common sense conservative bill

00:28:01.340 C-234

00:28:02.520 to take the tax off

00:28:04.260 and let our Canadian people

00:28:05.720 eat affordable food.

00:28:06.960 I say again,

00:28:08.140 were any of these questions

00:28:09.580 asked by the media party

00:28:10.880 relevant to you

00:28:12.280 or to the news?

00:28:13.700 You have CP playing gotcha.

00:28:15.780 Hey, it wasn't actually

00:28:17.340 a terrorist attack.

00:28:18.940 And Polly, I've said,

00:28:19.640 well, I didn't say it was.

00:28:20.780 I said that CTV reported it

00:28:22.800 as that.

00:28:23.900 The question about

00:28:25.260 why won't you carbon tax Ukraine?

00:28:28.160 What about a mean comment

00:28:29.880 that led to a mean phone call?

00:28:33.040 They, you know what,

00:28:34.040 sometimes the regime media,

00:28:35.580 they don't do it a lot anymore,

00:28:36.820 but they look down their nose

00:28:38.160 at citizen journalists like us.

00:28:40.120 But I got to tell you,

00:28:40.900 the only two reporters

00:28:41.740 in the building today

00:28:42.580 who actually asked questions

00:28:44.200 on the subject at hand

00:28:45.340 that were very newsworthy

00:28:47.620 to the community here,

00:28:48.900 at least to the local community,

00:28:50.420 and I would say

00:28:50.880 the national community,

00:28:51.860 were me and the Jewish reporter

00:28:53.160 from the Canadian Jewish News.

00:28:54.320 The rest of them

00:28:56.220 were asking about

00:28:57.440 their pet grievances,

00:28:58.600 their petty vendettas

00:28:59.560 inside Ottawa baseball,

00:29:02.280 and they're literally demanding

00:29:04.480 that Pierre Polyev make

00:29:06.020 taxing, carbon taxing Ukraine

00:29:09.520 a conditioned precedent

00:29:11.160 for Canadian support.

00:29:12.760 I came here to see Pierre Polyev

00:29:14.500 and put a question to him

00:29:15.420 about deport Hamas,

00:29:16.520 and I'd give him a 5 out of 10

00:29:18.020 for his answer.

00:29:18.660 He sort of evaded it,

00:29:20.180 and his press boss

00:29:21.340 didn't want me to ask a follow-up.

00:29:22.860 But I'm half-pleased

00:29:25.340 with the answer.

00:29:26.340 It's a baby step,

00:29:27.320 but I'm not talking

00:29:28.700 about foreign nationals

00:29:30.360 who completely fake

00:29:32.340 being students.

00:29:32.940 I'm talking about the ones

00:29:33.820 who are students by day

00:29:35.220 and haters by night.

00:29:37.220 But what I really learned today

00:29:38.500 was not about the war on terror

00:29:40.880 or the Jewish community

00:29:41.860 or Polyev's plans.

00:29:43.120 I saw firsthand

00:29:44.360 who the enemy is,

00:29:46.220 and it's the regime media

00:29:48.000 that you are forced to pay

00:29:49.700 with your tax dollars.

00:29:51.560 Yes, Radio-Canada, Toronto.

00:29:54.760 Yesterday, the conservatives

00:29:55.600 voted against the C-316 0.59

00:29:57.960 to prevent the judicial contestation

00:30:00.440 program,

00:30:01.040 often used by the French

00:30:02.980 in a minority situation.

00:30:04.040 Why would they turn their

00:30:06.040 head to these minority communities? 0.98

00:30:08.040 No, it's not true.

00:30:09.240 It's not true.

00:30:10.080 You know, I almost forgot

00:30:11.300 the French-language

00:30:12.420 CBC reporter

00:30:13.380 asked a question

00:30:14.360 about French minority rights.

00:30:16.200 Again,

00:30:16.940 is that the issue of the day?

00:30:18.520 And I'm not saying

00:30:19.320 that French minority rights,

00:30:20.680 people don't have a right 1.00

00:30:21.540 to ask a question,

00:30:22.440 but that's a lobbyist's question.

00:30:24.280 That's the CBC activist question.

00:30:26.440 Is that in the top 100 issues

00:30:28.480 of the day today?

00:30:29.720 I don't know.

00:30:30.520 Well, that's my reporting

00:30:32.300 on the ground,

00:30:33.200 but I want to now go

00:30:34.900 to exciting news

00:30:36.060 across the world,

00:30:37.400 news that I hope

00:30:38.120 will inspire Canada

00:30:39.600 and other countries.

00:30:41.400 I'm talking about

00:30:42.240 the massive electoral success

00:30:43.880 of Geert Wilders,

00:30:45.180 the head of the

00:30:46.200 Dutch Party for Freedom.

00:30:47.540 I interview

00:30:48.540 Ava Vardingerbrook next.

00:30:59.220 It's being compared

00:31:00.640 in terms of its seismic

00:31:02.400 political impact

00:31:03.440 to Brexit

00:31:04.500 when the United Kingdom

00:31:05.500 voted to leave

00:31:06.380 the European Union.

00:31:07.260 I'm referring, of course,

00:31:08.260 to the electoral victory,

00:31:10.600 the tremendous success,

00:31:12.020 the surprising success

00:31:13.380 to many,

00:31:14.360 of Geert Wilders,

00:31:15.300 the leader of the

00:31:16.400 Party for Freedom.

00:31:17.700 in the Netherlands.

00:31:19.260 And joining us now

00:31:20.060 is one of our favorite

00:31:21.320 Dutch political observers

00:31:23.500 and commentators,

00:31:25.180 our friend Ava Vardingerbrook,

00:31:26.620 who is on the road

00:31:27.640 in Europe

00:31:28.020 doing a documentary.

00:31:29.320 Thanks very much

00:31:30.120 for jamming us in.

00:31:31.540 What a remarkable outcome.

00:31:34.060 I didn't think

00:31:35.740 that the Dutch

00:31:36.800 would embrace someone

00:31:38.020 who was so radical

00:31:39.860 in the Latin sense

00:31:41.260 of that word.

00:31:41.800 He goes to the root.

00:31:43.480 Ava, what do you make

00:31:44.540 of Geert Wilders' success?

00:31:46.340 I guess it was last night,

00:31:47.520 right now.

00:31:49.020 Yeah, well,

00:31:49.640 personally,

00:31:50.200 I'm euphoric.

00:31:51.180 I voted for the PVV personally,

00:31:53.680 and just like you, Ezra,

00:31:54.900 I had honestly no idea

00:31:56.640 that this would happen.

00:31:57.640 It was completely unexpected.

00:31:59.320 It's unprecedented.

00:32:01.280 They won now.

00:32:02.480 They're looking at 38 seats even,

00:32:04.660 so they keep on rising

00:32:05.880 with the last votes

00:32:07.040 being counted.

00:32:09.080 And it's just,

00:32:10.360 it's something that

00:32:11.580 no one saw coming,

00:32:12.760 I think.

00:32:13.240 The PVV,

00:32:14.480 they've been branded as,

00:32:16.260 well,

00:32:16.540 extremely radical

00:32:17.360 and not in a good sense.

00:32:18.860 You know,

00:32:19.100 Geert Wilders has even been

00:32:20.400 prosecuted

00:32:21.540 and trialed here

00:32:24.260 in the Netherlands

00:32:24.760 for his opinions

00:32:26.080 and his views.

00:32:27.920 Voters of the PVV

00:32:29.060 have been ridiculized,

00:32:30.460 demonized

00:32:31.220 for years now.

00:32:32.420 And the fact that

00:32:33.620 so many people,

00:32:34.840 one in four Dutch people

00:32:36.120 have now said,

00:32:37.060 enough with that.

00:32:38.240 We want change

00:32:39.140 and we are going to vote

00:32:40.260 for this party.

00:32:41.080 It's just,

00:32:41.740 it's unheard of.

00:32:42.700 And I'm honestly

00:32:43.440 really, really happy.

00:32:44.900 Yeah, I mean,

00:32:45.380 he is a free speech champion.

00:32:47.740 He has fought prosecution

00:32:49.040 for his ideas.

00:32:50.460 He has a very hard line

00:32:52.080 on Islam.

00:32:52.860 And I've listened to him

00:32:53.860 say it many times.

00:32:54.680 He says,

00:32:55.260 I respect Muslims as people,

00:32:57.640 but I quarrel with the ideology,

00:32:59.860 the philosophy

00:33:00.440 of Islam itself,

00:33:01.980 which is a very interesting

00:33:03.020 distinction.

00:33:03.820 He's very tough

00:33:04.780 on Islam

00:33:06.040 and he's talked about,

00:33:07.320 for example,

00:33:07.780 a moratorium

00:33:08.460 on building mosques.

00:33:10.180 He's talked about

00:33:11.340 ending,

00:33:12.440 for all intents and purposes,

00:33:14.040 all third world immigration.

00:33:15.980 He's been saying these things

00:33:17.460 for really 20 years

00:33:18.840 and he's been saying them

00:33:20.180 from the margins of politics,

00:33:21.620 but now he's in the heart

00:33:22.960 of politics.

00:33:24.280 I have a question for you.

00:33:25.820 I have my answer

00:33:26.680 to this question,

00:33:27.240 but I want to hear it from you.

00:33:28.780 Do you think

00:33:29.760 that he will be able

00:33:31.480 to carry out

00:33:32.740 his basic ideas?

00:33:35.000 They're radical

00:33:35.760 in the sense

00:33:36.220 that they go to the root.

00:33:37.100 He wants to pull out

00:33:37.940 immigration from the root.

00:33:39.600 He wants to challenge Islam 1.00

00:33:41.040 by name.

00:33:41.960 He's not dancing around it.

00:33:43.460 Do you think

00:33:43.840 he's going to hold fast

00:33:45.100 to his values

00:33:46.040 now that he is

00:33:47.220 in the driver's seat?

00:33:49.520 Well,

00:33:49.720 I think there's really

00:33:50.580 no other option

00:33:51.380 for Gert Wilders.

00:33:52.340 I mean,

00:33:52.720 this man is not joking

00:33:54.180 when it comes

00:33:54.760 to his opinions

00:33:55.420 about this.

00:33:56.200 He has security details

00:33:58.740 following him around

00:33:59.840 24-7.

00:34:01.160 He can't go anywhere

00:34:02.160 without being protected

00:34:03.660 by his bodyguards.

00:34:05.740 He drives a car

00:34:06.920 that is armored.

00:34:08.340 You know,

00:34:08.500 like all of that.

00:34:09.480 It's not a joke.

00:34:10.520 You know,

00:34:10.760 Gert Wilders

00:34:11.180 has sacrificed

00:34:11.780 a lot for his views

00:34:13.840 on Islam

00:34:14.560 and his critic

00:34:15.620 of immigration.

00:34:17.580 And so,

00:34:18.120 I don't think

00:34:18.760 that that's something

00:34:19.300 that he will compromise

00:34:20.340 on necessarily.

00:34:21.680 Of course,

00:34:22.140 all sorts of other powers,

00:34:23.700 other political parties

00:34:24.780 in the Netherlands

00:34:25.240 that he will have

00:34:26.260 to form a coalition with

00:34:27.400 are probably going

00:34:28.540 to want him

00:34:29.360 to water that message down.

00:34:32.440 But I think

00:34:33.220 Gert Wilders

00:34:33.800 is very much aware

00:34:34.660 of the fact

00:34:35.160 that the people

00:34:35.800 in the Netherlands

00:34:37.000 have chosen him

00:34:38.020 for this particular reason.

00:34:39.800 I think also

00:34:40.240 the events

00:34:40.880 of October 7th

00:34:42.180 and, you know,

00:34:43.180 how that has played out

00:34:44.360 all over Europe.

00:34:45.280 You have seen

00:34:45.980 the protests here.

00:34:47.360 You know,

00:34:47.560 people have come out

00:34:48.180 in vast numbers

00:34:49.220 waving Taliban flags,

00:34:51.320 waving,

00:34:51.900 you know,

00:34:53.120 Al-Qaeda flags.

00:34:54.000 And I think

00:34:54.480 that that has

00:34:55.040 woken the masses

00:34:56.220 up in a way.

00:34:58.020 And another thing

00:34:59.080 that Gert Wilders'

00:34:59.960 party is in favor of

00:35:01.060 is the,

00:35:01.940 well,

00:35:02.660 Dutch version

00:35:03.380 of the Brexit.

00:35:04.320 So he's in favor

00:35:04.980 of a next sit.

00:35:06.300 And if that is something

00:35:07.400 that we can actually do,

00:35:08.840 then we stand a chance,

00:35:10.240 you know,

00:35:10.420 because a lot of these

00:35:11.340 open border policies

00:35:12.540 ultimately start,

00:35:14.400 begin and end

00:35:15.040 in Brussels.

00:35:16.240 You know,

00:35:16.420 they begin and end

00:35:17.100 with the European Union.

00:35:18.580 And Gert Wilders'

00:35:19.100 party has been very clear

00:35:20.340 on the fact

00:35:21.440 that they want

00:35:22.000 to leave the EU,

00:35:23.300 which is something

00:35:23.700 that I think

00:35:24.180 absolutely needs to happen

00:35:25.520 if we want to see

00:35:26.300 any real substantial change

00:35:28.240 with regards to immigration.

00:35:29.740 That's incredible.

00:35:30.500 You know,

00:35:30.780 my answer to my own question

00:35:32.160 is Gert Wilders

00:35:33.700 has lived

00:35:34.700 for this one purpose.

00:35:36.340 And as you mentioned,

00:35:37.060 he's under

00:35:37.480 extreme security.

00:35:40.020 And for good reason,

00:35:41.320 other Dutch critics

00:35:42.680 of Islam 0.61

00:35:43.320 have been assassinated. 0.56

00:35:45.640 Theo van Gogh,

00:35:46.820 Van Gogh,

00:35:47.940 as he'd be called,

00:35:49.480 Pim Fortown 0.87

00:35:50.300 was a gay politician, 0.56

00:35:52.800 actually,

00:35:53.660 who both of these men

00:35:54.780 were killed

00:35:55.500 for challenging,

00:35:58.060 for speaking out.

00:35:58.860 Ayaan Hirsi Ali

00:35:59.940 had to basically

00:36:01.620 flee the country

00:36:02.640 for death threats.

00:36:03.540 So a man

00:36:04.380 who has lived

00:36:05.180 for 20 years

00:36:06.040 under armed guard

00:36:07.320 because he holds

00:36:08.620 these beliefs,

00:36:09.460 there's no way

00:36:10.300 he's going to abandon

00:36:11.020 them now.

00:36:11.480 As you say,

00:36:11.980 I think the challenge

00:36:12.640 is can he work

00:36:13.960 with other parties

00:36:14.920 to get over the hump

00:36:16.100 for a working coalition?

00:36:17.880 Now,

00:36:18.000 tell me about

00:36:18.740 one of the other parties.

00:36:19.960 I understand

00:36:20.800 that another party

00:36:22.860 that actually

00:36:23.980 was for the former

00:36:24.960 PM,

00:36:25.460 Mark Rutte,

00:36:26.300 that the new leader

00:36:28.020 of that party

00:36:28.640 is a Turkish refugee

00:36:29.920 herself

00:36:30.640 who is critical

00:36:32.420 of immigration.

00:36:33.540 Do you know more

00:36:34.200 about these potential

00:36:36.200 coalition partners?

00:36:38.100 Like,

00:36:38.260 are there other people

00:36:39.500 who support

00:36:40.500 an immigration crackdown

00:36:41.780 that Herb Wilders

00:36:42.700 can work with?

00:36:43.320 Well,

00:36:45.100 the VVD

00:36:45.740 has been saying

00:36:46.920 that for years now.

00:36:48.180 That is

00:36:48.460 Margaret's party

00:36:49.340 and indeed

00:36:49.800 it's now led

00:36:50.500 by a Turkish woman

00:36:51.720 and she also,

00:36:53.060 just like,

00:36:53.680 well,

00:36:53.920 every single VVD

00:36:54.840 politician

00:36:55.300 has been quite

00:36:56.660 anti-immigration

00:36:57.480 right before the elections

00:36:58.560 but usually

00:36:59.220 right after the elections

00:37:00.460 and when they are

00:37:01.220 actually elected

00:37:02.340 they change their tunes

00:37:03.360 again and they,

00:37:04.120 you know,

00:37:04.540 they answer to the

00:37:05.140 whims of Brussels.

00:37:06.020 So I wouldn't trust

00:37:07.340 the VVD

00:37:07.920 as far as I could

00:37:08.920 throw them personally

00:37:10.040 but there is a chance

00:37:12.220 now that if they

00:37:13.240 do form a right-wing

00:37:14.280 coalition with some

00:37:15.240 other parties on the

00:37:16.260 right that have

00:37:16.880 taken a stauncher

00:37:18.820 anti-immigration

00:37:19.660 stance than the VVD

00:37:20.880 that that would be

00:37:22.540 a possibility.

00:37:23.940 It remains to be seen

00:37:25.400 because like I said

00:37:26.220 the PVV,

00:37:27.620 Gerard Wilders' party

00:37:28.340 has been excluded

00:37:29.320 from the formation

00:37:31.740 of a coalition

00:37:32.400 for,

00:37:33.040 well,

00:37:33.560 as long basically

00:37:34.180 as they exist.

00:37:34.860 It only happened once

00:37:35.900 and now I think

00:37:37.900 that he has become

00:37:39.160 so big,

00:37:40.420 you know,

00:37:40.640 that they just can't

00:37:41.400 ignore him anymore.

00:37:42.300 If they now try

00:37:43.540 to form a coalition

00:37:44.340 without him,

00:37:45.260 God forbid,

00:37:46.280 you know,

00:37:46.480 I really think

00:37:47.320 that the Dutch

00:37:48.220 people will,

00:37:49.840 well,

00:37:50.360 let's just put it

00:37:51.020 diplomatically,

00:37:52.040 they won't be happy.

00:37:53.000 So I doubt

00:37:54.180 that that's still

00:37:54.820 an option.

00:37:55.500 I think you're right.

00:37:56.600 This is,

00:37:57.260 I think,

00:37:57.520 related to the

00:37:58.380 global uprising

00:37:59.400 of Islamic

00:38:00.460 anti-Semitism

00:38:01.220 because Gerard Wilders

00:38:02.180 has always warned

00:38:03.100 Israel today,

00:38:04.420 Europe tomorrow

00:38:05.120 in terms of

00:38:05.980 the battle plan

00:38:07.120 of Hamas

00:38:08.080 and groups like that.

00:38:08.800 So I think

00:38:09.220 ordinary Dutch people

00:38:10.200 have observed

00:38:11.060 what's going on

00:38:11.720 in the streets

00:38:12.180 and they sort

00:38:12.720 of decided

00:38:13.220 this is the moment.

00:38:14.840 It's very,

00:38:15.760 very late,

00:38:16.620 but if they do

00:38:17.120 want to do something,

00:38:18.400 Gerard Wilders

00:38:18.860 is the man

00:38:19.380 and this election

00:38:19.980 is the time.

00:38:21.040 Let me ask you

00:38:21.480 one last question

00:38:22.120 and then I'll let you go.

00:38:22.840 I know you're

00:38:23.160 on the road

00:38:23.560 doing a documentary.

00:38:25.600 Mark Rutger

00:38:26.100 was the essential

00:38:27.660 World Economic Forum

00:38:29.180 man.

00:38:29.920 He was one of

00:38:31.240 their young leaders

00:38:31.900 if I'm not mistaken.

00:38:32.800 He reminded me

00:38:33.380 in some ways

00:38:33.900 of Justin Trudeau.

00:38:35.100 He wanted to be

00:38:36.040 accepted by the

00:38:37.180 multinational

00:38:38.440 organizations.

00:38:39.680 He didn't believe

00:38:40.520 in local sovereignty.

00:38:42.120 He was at war

00:38:43.140 with the farmers

00:38:43.920 of the Netherlands.

00:38:46.360 Trudeau hates carbon.

00:38:49.540 Rutger went to war

00:38:50.880 against nitrogen

00:38:51.820 and other fertilizers.

00:38:53.600 He really was

00:38:54.800 the perfect

00:38:56.300 Klaus Schwab puppet.

00:38:58.780 I think here at Wilders 0.72

00:38:59.820 is the 180 degree opposite

00:39:02.300 and I think it's

00:39:03.300 sort of a backlash

00:39:04.060 to that.

00:39:04.600 You have Javier Millet,

00:39:05.960 the new president

00:39:06.720 of Argentina.

00:39:07.800 I think around the world

00:39:09.160 maybe the pendulum

00:39:09.880 is swinging back

00:39:10.820 against the WEF style

00:39:13.140 of governance.

00:39:14.260 What do you make of that?

00:39:16.280 Yeah, it's about time,

00:39:17.760 Hay, but it's true.

00:39:18.840 There's definitely

00:39:19.340 a wave of patriotism,

00:39:21.440 of nationalism,

00:39:22.580 of the identitarian

00:39:24.440 right wing,

00:39:25.180 anti-immigration

00:39:25.900 right wing

00:39:26.540 in Europe

00:39:27.340 and all around the world

00:39:28.360 and I'm so happy

00:39:29.860 to see it finally.

00:39:31.220 You know,

00:39:31.500 it's clear to me

00:39:33.100 that the intimidation game

00:39:34.620 of calling everybody

00:39:35.740 who opposes immigration

00:39:37.000 or who loves

00:39:37.760 their own country,

00:39:39.160 a racist, 1.00

00:39:40.180 a Nazi, 1.00

00:39:40.880 xenophobe, 0.81

00:39:41.540 whatever,

00:39:41.920 that those days are over.

00:39:43.360 You know,

00:39:43.540 it doesn't work anymore

00:39:45.240 and people go out

00:39:46.820 and they vote

00:39:47.460 and they now vote

00:39:48.300 for a party

00:39:48.800 that has been,

00:39:49.420 as I said,

00:39:49.980 shunned,

00:39:50.720 ridiculed,

00:39:51.400 demonized

00:39:51.960 for as long

00:39:52.720 as it existed

00:39:53.380 and they've gone out

00:39:55.540 in vast numbers

00:39:56.200 and done it

00:39:56.780 and Geert Wilders

00:39:57.620 is somebody

00:39:58.420 who I really trust

00:39:59.640 when he says

00:40:00.360 the Netherlands first.

00:40:01.540 You know,

00:40:02.060 as you mentioned,

00:40:03.160 he has paid

00:40:04.020 a really,

00:40:05.080 really high price

00:40:06.540 throughout his life

00:40:07.720 for his political views

00:40:09.060 and I dare to say

00:40:11.140 that I really believe

00:40:12.080 that Geert Wilders

00:40:12.880 will set

00:40:13.880 or will put

00:40:15.080 the Netherlands first

00:40:16.060 and,

00:40:16.500 well,

00:40:16.960 this next sit,

00:40:18.320 you know,

00:40:19.460 point that he makes

00:40:20.580 all the time

00:40:21.020 that we need

00:40:21.400 to leave the EU

00:40:22.120 I think also proves that.

00:40:23.640 You know,

00:40:23.820 it's not just words for him.

00:40:25.800 Well,

00:40:25.840 that's very exciting.

00:40:26.760 I had the pleasure

00:40:27.340 of going on

00:40:27.940 a small Canadian tour

00:40:29.880 with him

00:40:31.200 probably about 15 years ago now

00:40:33.000 I had published

00:40:34.500 the Danish cartoons

00:40:35.560 of Mohammed in Canada

00:40:37.060 and we went on

00:40:37.680 a speaking tour together

00:40:38.700 and he was very passionate

00:40:41.060 and he was a true believer

00:40:42.540 but the number one thing

00:40:43.860 I took away with me

00:40:44.720 was his life,

00:40:46.520 how he lives

00:40:47.200 under armed guard

00:40:48.280 all the time

00:40:49.480 and when I visited him once

00:40:50.680 in the capital

00:40:52.080 in the Netherlands

00:40:53.180 our meeting was almost

00:40:54.840 called off

00:40:55.360 because there was

00:40:56.020 a death threat.

00:40:56.740 One of his own security guards

00:40:58.080 had leaked

00:40:59.140 Wilders' whereabouts

00:41:00.820 and they were sort of

00:41:02.080 on a lockdown

00:41:02.660 the guy has lived

00:41:04.220 sort of like Salman Rushdie

00:41:06.200 you know,

00:41:06.920 with this fatwa

00:41:07.560 hanging over him

00:41:08.280 and he's an incredible man

00:41:09.860 and I think it's his moment.

00:41:11.580 Speaking of Canadian tours,

00:41:13.040 Eva,

00:41:13.140 I understand you're

00:41:14.000 coming to Canada.

00:41:15.160 What can you tell us

00:41:16.140 about your visit?

00:41:17.040 When is it?

00:41:17.720 What cities are you

00:41:18.500 going to go to?

00:41:19.480 And where can we find

00:41:20.540 more information about it?

00:41:22.480 Yeah,

00:41:22.840 I'm coming to Canada

00:41:23.640 for the first time

00:41:24.580 and I'm very excited

00:41:25.520 because well,

00:41:26.400 you know,

00:41:26.860 Canada and the Netherlands

00:41:27.800 we've already talked about

00:41:29.260 Margaret and Trudeau

00:41:31.260 basically being the same person

00:41:32.800 being a puppet

00:41:33.760 of the same guy

00:41:34.720 having the same globalist

00:41:36.020 destructive ideas

00:41:37.260 and policies

00:41:38.020 and well,

00:41:39.400 you know,

00:41:39.820 I take a lot of hope

00:41:41.120 from the fact

00:41:42.060 that both in Canada

00:41:43.140 with the truckers

00:41:44.340 and in the Netherlands

00:41:45.180 with the farmers

00:41:46.020 we've been able

00:41:46.980 to put up a fight

00:41:47.920 against the globalists

00:41:48.980 and the fact that now

00:41:49.780 Geert Wilders

00:41:50.320 has won this election

00:41:51.200 to me is a real sign

00:41:53.680 of the times

00:41:54.380 that people are done

00:41:55.380 with that

00:41:55.820 and that's something

00:41:57.120 that I'm very happy about

00:41:58.980 and I hope to come to Canada

00:42:00.740 and spread that message

00:42:01.740 of hope

00:42:02.160 and let people know

00:42:02.860 yeah,

00:42:03.240 we can resist this,

00:42:04.520 you know,

00:42:05.120 it's our times,

00:42:06.020 our days are not numbered

00:42:07.080 we can stand up

00:42:08.020 against these guys

00:42:08.740 and we can win

00:42:09.520 we can be successful

00:42:10.520 so I'm coming to Canada

00:42:11.940 very excited

00:42:12.800 I'll be there

00:42:13.520 on the 26th of November

00:42:15.020 so in just a few days

00:42:16.660 I'll go to Vancouver first

00:42:19.060 I'll go to Winnipeg

00:42:20.080 and I'll go to Ottawa

00:42:20.900 and the dates

00:42:23.020 are listed

00:42:23.900 on my Twitter profile

00:42:25.260 or my ex-profile

00:42:26.120 so if you want to go

00:42:26.860 check that out

00:42:27.460 I would love to

00:42:28.420 to see all of you guys

00:42:29.580 and I know that we will

00:42:30.340 be seeing each other Ezra

00:42:31.220 so that's always fun

00:42:32.180 well that's wonderful

00:42:33.140 thank you again

00:42:33.800 welcome to Canada

00:42:34.660 looking forward to having you here

00:42:35.760 and we will

00:42:36.580 put on the bottom

00:42:38.660 of this website

00:42:39.400 the links for people

00:42:40.480 to get tickets

00:42:41.400 to see you

00:42:42.260 in those three cities

00:42:43.600 great to see you

00:42:44.320 Ava Vlardingerbrook

00:42:45.380 good luck in your documentary

00:42:46.940 and we'll see you in Canada

00:42:47.920 thank you

00:42:49.360 thank you Ezra

00:42:50.020 see you soon

00:42:50.820 thanks bye bye

00:42:51.580 well there you have it

00:42:53.000 the news

00:42:53.840 from the Netherlands

00:42:54.980 stay with us

00:42:55.820 I actually recorded

00:43:08.100 that interview

00:43:08.680 with Ava

00:43:09.240 early in the morning

00:43:10.180 because she was overseas

00:43:11.400 and then I went

00:43:12.600 to the synagogue

00:43:13.200 for this absolute gong show

00:43:15.100 of the reporters

00:43:17.260 it's so shocking

00:43:18.640 to see what they must be like

00:43:20.460 every single day

00:43:21.800 and there is a value

00:43:23.360 in Rebel News being here

00:43:24.460 not just that we can bring

00:43:25.800 questions to politicians

00:43:28.840 and get them answered for you

00:43:30.060 it's obvious why Trudeau

00:43:31.400 wouldn't allow us in

00:43:32.300 but just to remind you

00:43:36.460 and remind everybody

00:43:37.500 that Canada's National Press Corps

00:43:39.920 is an absolute disgrace

00:43:42.540 you could have picked

00:43:44.320 six random people

00:43:46.320 off the street

00:43:47.460 six random people

00:43:49.100 in a restaurant

00:43:49.980 and brought them in here

00:43:51.180 and they would have had

00:43:52.220 more honest

00:43:53.000 more thoughtful

00:43:53.980 and more relevant questions 0.82

00:43:55.820 than the six clowns 0.90

00:43:57.640 that the regime media sent 0.97

00:43:58.940 I'm modestly pleased

00:44:02.660 by what Pierre Polyev said

00:44:04.100 he was very cautious

00:44:05.100 fine

00:44:05.700 I think he's doing okay

00:44:06.640 but I was absolutely appalled

00:44:09.540 at the media

00:44:10.900 that you pay for

00:44:12.020 through your taxes

00:44:13.140 from all of us

00:44:15.620 at Rebel News

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00:44:17.100 and around the country

00:44:18.020 and around the world

00:44:18.720 to you at home

00:44:19.420 goodnight

00:44:20.420 and keep fighting for freedom

00:44:22.420 I'll see you next time

00:44:24.420 I'll see you next time

00:44:25.540 I'll see you next time

00:44:26.600 then

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Rebel News Podcast - November 24, 2023

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rebel News asks Poilievre a question： Should non-citizens who call for violence be deported？

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