Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rebel News obtains EXCLUSIVE DOCS into cabinet meeting with terrorist leader

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. We have an exclusive 86-page document from Global Affairs Canada,

00:00:06.300 and it's the inside details of how Melanie Jolie and Yara Sachs, two liberal MPs,

00:00:12.640 met with the terrorist leader Mahmoud Abbas. There's some incredible revelations in there. 0.58

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00:01:45.720 and support our independent journalism. Tonight, exclusive documents show us what the Trudeau

00:01:52.580 liberals were thinking when they set up their infamous meeting between cabinet ministers

00:01:57.240 and a prominent Palestinian terrorist. It's March 5th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:02:05.980 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:02:15.720 You probably know this horrific image. If you didn't know who those people were, you wouldn't 0.88

00:02:23.740 say it's horrific. You'd say two middle-aged women meeting a grandpa. And you can't quite tell what

00:02:29.640 that flag is, can you? Again, if you didn't know anyone in it, there's not much to say. You might find

00:02:35.160 it a little bit odd about how that woman on the right is holding the man's hand, but that's just a

00:02:39.740 weird quirk, maybe. Of course, the picture changes totally when you realize that the man in the center

00:02:45.500 is Mahmoud Abbas, a senior Palestinian terrorist with the PLO Terrorist Organization, that he is a

00:02:54.060 dictator over the West Bank, that he maintains a pay-for-slave policy where he literally gives

00:03:01.200 Palestinian families a government pension, huge monthly payments if their family members commit a

00:03:07.680 terrorist attack on a Jew. Abbas has been a terrorist leader for more than 50 years. He was a financier 0.83

00:03:14.620 of the 1972 terrorist attack on the Olympics in Munich. That's in Germany when they had the Olympics

00:03:20.520 that year and where the Israeli team was butchered in a horrific massacre. He literally has a university

00:03:29.080 degree in Holocaust denial. That was his field of study. He's an expert in it. It's so gross, but what's 0.91

00:03:35.780 extra gross is when you learn that the woman on the left is Melanie Jolie, Canada's foreign minister,

00:03:42.220 and that this meeting was actually after the Palestinian terror attack on southern Israel in

00:03:48.960 October of 2023, where over a thousand people were killed and more than 200 hostages were taken,

00:03:55.660 including women and children and even babies. Imagine meeting him and smiling with him in a selfie.

00:04:02.220 The woman on the right isn't a minister with anything to do with foreign affairs or the Middle East or war

00:04:09.920 or anything. She is a minister. She's Trudeau's minister for drug legalization, but her name is

00:04:16.180 Yaara Sachs, which you might tell is a Jewish name, and that is the sole reason she's in that picture.

00:04:23.920 Yaara Sachs was brought along on Melanie Jolie's trip to meet this anti-Semitic terrorist as a kind of human

00:04:31.980 excuse, like a human shield almost, as in the liberals knew it would be a disastrous look for

00:04:37.620 our foreign minister to actually meet with a terrorist, let alone just months after that terrorist

00:04:43.180 massacre of Jews. But if a Jewish MP could be convinced to come along and be in the picture too,

00:04:50.320 smiling, like I say, a political shield. No one could say that Melanie Jolie and Justin Trudeau were Jew

00:04:58.240 hating terrorist supporters, even though they were meeting with a Jew hating terrorist, because after 0.98

00:05:03.840 all, there's a Jew right there smiling and holding the terrorist hand. So she said it was okay. It's like 0.98

00:05:11.360 this Jewish MP was asserting that it was kosher or something. Surely if she was there, Melanie Jolie

00:05:17.300 could be there too. Can you imagine what kind of a Jew would accept that assignment? Well, a self-hating, 1.00

00:05:24.500 Canada-hating, Israel-hating Jew like Yaara Sachs. She's sick in the head with self-loathing. She's the 1.00

00:05:31.300 kind of Jew that Justin Trudeau likes. I don't know if you've seen this story. Here she is in the

00:05:36.040 Times of Israel a few years ago, saying that Israel is, quote, deeply racist towards its minorities.

00:05:44.140 What an atrocious lie. But you can see why Trudeau likes her and uses her, and you can see why Mahmoud

00:05:49.680 Abus likes her too. You know, we had a whole campaign against Yaara Sachs after she did this. 1.00

00:05:55.120 We sent our billboard truck around her riding. We mailed this postcard to every single house

00:06:00.660 in her district, showing her atrocious meeting with a murderer. And I went to a local shopping

00:06:06.020 center in her district, and I did some streeters about it. Here, take a look at a couple of them.

00:06:11.100 Why do you think she would meet with him?

00:06:12.580 I think that she has disowned her own people, and I think she's looking for political gains. 0.89

00:06:17.380 And it's unfortunate because, you know, her parents are part of the community. Her brother's

00:06:23.140 part of the community. And she really let us down.

00:06:25.760 Our grandparents lived through it and came here, you know, fled these countries that we 1.00

00:06:29.600 were persecuted. And here we are, you know, one of us that's doing this and backstabbing us

00:06:34.400 right in front of our face.

00:06:35.460 I don't know, man. I don't like what's going on in the world now. It's backwards.

00:06:39.320 What do you think of her meeting with Mahmoud Abbas? You know, he's a terrorist leader. 0.94

00:06:44.700 Yeah. Are we surprised about anything anymore? 0.73

00:06:47.200 I've been tweeting that grotesque photo back at Ya'ara Sax ever since she agreed to bless 1.00

00:06:53.260 a murderer for Trudeau's benefit. She blocked me on Twitter, but I went to court, and the

00:06:58.320 court ordered her not to block me for the rest of her career. Isn't that something?

00:07:03.240 I've sometimes put questions to her on Twitter, like,

00:07:05.860 why haven't you asked your new friend, Mahmoud Abbas, to stop the terrorist attacks? I mean,

00:07:12.160 what else is there really to talk about with a terrorist other than how to get him to stop

00:07:17.240 being a terrorist? Well, I have news today. We did an access to information request to the

00:07:23.960 Foreign Affairs Department called Global Affairs Canada, and we've received 86 pages back from

00:07:30.140 them. Now, most of those pages are blacked out for reasons of national security or diplomacy or

00:07:35.940 whatever the exemptions are. There's enough in there to learn a lot about the government and how

00:07:41.140 they thought of their meeting with Abbas. Look at the very first page in the document release.

00:07:47.760 It's an email dated April of 2024. That's just months after the terrorist attack. Here's the

00:07:54.340 unredacted part, and the word MINA or M-I-N-A is their acronym for the Minister of International

00:08:01.140 Affairs. So, MINA means Melanie Jolie. Let me read. Summary. Minister visited the West Bank on March 12,

00:08:09.920 2024. During her trip, she met with Foreign Minister Malky, President Abbas, and Canadian General Teller,

00:08:18.000 with a community affected by settler violence, participated in a humanitarian roundtable with

00:08:25.520 international organizations, and met with Ramallah staff. The minister reiterated Canada's support for

00:08:32.100 the Palestinian people and highlighted Canada's resumed funding to the UN Relief Works Agency.

00:08:38.640 Not a word about the terrorist attack. In fact, the only violent people discussed are what they call

00:08:45.200 Jewish settlers, Jews who live in the West Bank, the ancient area of Judea and Samaria. No talk about

00:08:52.340 Hamas or other Palestinian terrorist groups, but Canada is bragging about giving more money to the

00:08:58.440 UN Relief Works Agency, UNRWA, which is an Hamas front. I did a word search in this document. I searched 0.60

00:09:04.800 for the word terrorism in this entire 86-page document, and it appears only once. That's quite a feat.

00:09:11.460 I'll just reread that line on page five. West Bank and East Jerusalem. Since October,

00:09:18.480 violence has increased in the West Bank and East Jerusalem as a result of Israeli military operations

00:09:23.820 and terrorism by extremist settlers against Palestinians and their properties. Following

00:09:31.000 repeated calls to hold violent extremist settlers accountable, several countries have announced

00:09:36.180 sanctions against violent settlers, including the U.S. and the U.K. Nowhere in this document do they say

00:09:42.900 what happened in October. That's the only way they talk about it, October. They just say October.

00:09:49.240 They describe what Israeli Jews are allegedly doing. They describe that as terrorism, and the only people 1.00

00:09:55.680 they call extremists and violent are the Jews. Isn't that weird? In 86 pages. I want you to see it for 0.88

00:10:01.720 yourself. I've taken this whole 86-page document, and I've put it on a website called The Saks Files,

00:10:09.320 named after Yara Saks, because it's her disgrace. The Saks Files, S-A-K-S. You can see it there. 0.89

00:10:16.040 Go ahead and read it. I want to go through it a little bit, but feel free to go through it yourself for

00:10:21.000 more. On page two, you can see most of it's redacted, but they did say this about the meeting with

00:10:27.500 Abbas, the terrorist leader. They said, both meetings with Minister Malky and President Abbas

00:10:33.380 were pleasant and friendly in tone. The meetings were supposed to consist of a 10-minute one-on-one

00:10:39.160 portion, followed by a joint formal seating. However, both meetings were significantly longer

00:10:44.360 than planned, especially the one-on-one portions. So they're literally treating a terrorist

00:10:49.900 more warmly than, say, they treat the Premier of Alberta or Saskatchewan.

00:10:54.700 They got along great, guys. So they went on much longer, but not enough, not long enough

00:11:01.260 for a word about stopping terrorism. Not a word. The only terrorism they talk about is what they

00:11:08.380 call Jewish terrorism. Can you believe it? Seriously, looking at these notes, you'd think 0.95

00:11:12.900 the world's worst terrorists were the Jews, and the victims of terrorism were Palestinians. 0.64

00:11:19.800 This was an itinerary scheduled by the Canadian government, although it is indistinguishable from

00:11:25.680 what the PLO would, or Hamas, would schedule if they were in control, which I guess they sort of are.

00:11:31.380 Look here on page three. It says,

00:11:33.880 She was also briefed by two NGOs, Premier Urgence International and Norwegian Refugee Council,

00:12:00.060 on settler violence and forcible transfer trends. Page five is the worst, though, in a way.

00:12:07.560 It's the official biography of Mahmoud Abbas given to Melanie Jolie and Yaara Sachs.

00:12:13.780 I told you about his role in financing the murder of Jews at the 1972 Olympics in Munich. I told you 0.74

00:12:18.840 about his pay for slay, how he gives pensions to families of terrorists. I told you about his PhD

00:12:24.700 and anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial. Here's how the Canadian global affairs staff described him

00:12:30.140 in their short-form biography and briefing notes for the cabinet ministers. I'll read this in full.

00:12:36.060 This is all they think Melanie Jolie and Yaara Sachs need to know. This is it. Let me read it to you.

00:12:42.480 President of the Palestinian Authority since 2005.

00:12:46.280 Following his election,

00:12:47.360 he called on all Palestinian factions to end the use of arms against Israel in favor of peaceful

00:12:53.540 resistance, to which he has remained committed. Chairman of the PLO Executive Committee since 2004,

00:12:59.820 following the death of Yasser Arafat, said to have had a powerful behind-the-scenes influence on the PLO,

00:13:05.540 he initiated dialogue with Jewish and pacifist movements as early as the 1970s. He is credited with

00:13:11.320 persuading the PLO to recognize Israel in the 1980s. Headed the Palestinian negotiating team to the

00:13:16.620 secret Oslo talks and signed the Declaration of Principles in 1993 on behalf of the PLO. He was

00:13:22.520 also the head of the PLO Negotiation Affairs Department between 1994 and 2003. Head of the

00:13:28.260 Central Election Commission between 1996 and 2002. And Secretary General of the PLO Executive Committee

00:13:33.940 from 1996 to 2004. Married and his three sons, one deceased. He obtained a PhD in history from the

00:13:41.080 People's Friendship University of Russia. He was born in 1935 in Safad, now Israel.

00:13:46.600 His son, Yasser, is a Canadian citizen. He speaks Arabic. While he understands some English,

00:13:52.500 he will conduct official meetings in Arabic. That's all they have to say about him.

00:13:58.540 I love how they say he was elected. It's true. He had one election and then no more elections needed

00:14:05.220 20 years later. They try to portray him as a friend to the Jews and a friend of peace, don't you know?

00:14:10.880 Not a word about his murders or terrorism. Not a word about his pay for slaves. They said he has a

00:14:15.860 history degree. And yeah, I suppose that's true. I wonder why they don't say it was a history of

00:14:21.500 Holocaust denial as in his revisionist history in denying the Holocaust. That's odd to omit that,

00:14:28.200 don't you think? I don't think anybody knew his son was a Canadian citizen. That's super gross. I wonder 0.94

00:14:34.420 if his son is a terrorist like his dad or maybe raises money for terrorism in Canada. But then

00:14:40.580 again, there's no need to, given that Canada happily gives tens of millions of dollars to the UNRWA.

00:14:48.240 The weirdest thing about this memo is how they just will not say what happened on October 7th,

00:14:55.040 2023. I mean, look at this on page 5 of the document. Since October, many Palestinians working 0.99

00:15:02.020 in Israel had their work permits revoked, causing a 33% loss in West Bank income. Yeah, gee whiz. I wonder

00:15:10.860 why Israelis stopped giving work permits to Palestinians from the territories. I wonder if it has anything to

00:15:17.300 do with whatever happened on that mysterious day in October. Now, pages 7 and 8, the diplomats and the

00:15:24.540 bureaucrats of global affairs have prepared some talking points, that is, things for Melanie Jolie

00:15:29.480 and Yara Sachs to say while meeting with this terrorist. I won't read it all, but just look at

00:15:35.060 the subject topics. Humanitarian crisis, ceasefire, West Bank. Now, these are all framed as

00:15:42.320 criticisms of the Jews, things the Jews are doing wrong, and praise for the PLO. The next one, 0.80

00:15:48.120 Palestinian Authority reforms, would be interesting, but it's blanked out. Palestinian statehood,

00:15:53.500 they support it. The UNRWA, the UNRWA, that's basically the money laundering. Canada gives

00:16:01.600 taxpayers money to UNRWA, which passes it on to Hamas, tens of millions of dollars. Arms exports 0.53

00:16:08.700 to Israel. You'd think Israel was the terrorist enemy here. It turns out Canada hasn't sold a weapon

00:16:13.960 to Israel in 30 years. I don't know if we sort of make any modern weapons anymore. I've just got to

00:16:19.600 read this one line to you, though. This is fueling the risk of an escalation of the conflict, particularly

00:16:26.440 as we are entering the holy month of Ramadan. I don't quite understand what they're saying. Are they

00:16:32.180 saying that in Ramadan, on the Muslim calendar, that there is more likely to be violence? I don't know

00:16:39.920 what they're saying there. A lot of pages just show back and forth emails amongst staff, but one email

00:16:44.860 stands out. On page 30, you can see how excited Trudeau is about meeting this terrorist with a Jewish MP 0.80

00:16:51.040 to provide cover for such an abomination. Look at this one line. 0.55

00:16:55.840 Good morning. Bumping this in inboxes as PCO is flagged to us that PMO is eagerly standing by.

00:17:03.020 Thank you, Jeremy. That's from Jeremy Harley. He, him, eel. So PCO stands for Privy Council Office.

00:17:10.360 PMO is prime minister's office. Trudeau is really excited about showing that he stands with the

00:17:16.020 terrorists. On page 41, there's talk about the prime minister's office being worried about a red

00:17:22.320 line. What red line would that be? We'll share the updated version with Privy Council for approval and

00:17:30.240 with desk to ensure there are no red lines. I don't know what that means. Does that mean something that

00:17:35.360 can't be crossed? If so, what's the red line for Trudeau? Mentioning the victims of Palestinian 0.99

00:17:40.820 terrorism? Mentioning what happened on October 7th? I think it could be that. Because you know what?

00:17:45.580 I did a word search of this entire document and the word hostages only appears in one place, in 86 pages.

00:17:54.120 It appears in the public tweets that the government did after this visit. On page 52, you can see that

00:18:01.120 the Trudeau liberals claimed to have raised the Israeli hostages taken by Hamas back to Gaza.

00:18:07.980 But actually, the word hostages appears nowhere in their internal documents, certainly not on their

00:18:13.560 agenda for their meeting with the terrorist Abbas. It was a lie. Of course, they didn't talk about

00:18:20.440 hostages. They probably called those hostages violent settlers. It's probably what they called those

00:18:26.200 the Bibas kids, the young children who were murdered by Hamas. As you know, the terrorists on October 7th

00:18:32.100 weren't just Hamas members. Hundreds of ordinary Gaza citizens streamed across into Israel, too,

00:18:38.580 committed murders and rapes. And the hostages they took back to Gaza were raped, too, both the men and

00:18:44.620 the women. But none of that was on the agenda of any of these meetings with Abbas or the other

00:18:49.440 Palestinians. In fact, the opposite, Canada accused Israel of rape. Seriously, again, I did a word 0.88

00:18:56.620 search, and the only hit for the word sexual assault were two social media posts saying this.

00:19:05.340 We believe Palestinian women, allegations on sexual and gender-based violence against them

00:19:10.640 must be investigated and Palestinian women must be supported. Today, Minister Jolie announced in the

00:19:15.760 West Bank that Canada will commit $1 million to support this important work. What? Hundreds of

00:19:24.280 young Israeli women and girls were murdered, kidnapped, and they were raped. Some of them were murdered and

00:19:32.160 raped after being murdered. It was all live-streamed by the Palestinian terrorists. It was horrific. 0.99

00:19:38.060 Nazi-style rape and murder spree and torture. Not a word about that. 0.90

00:19:45.760 The opposite. The Jews were accused of rape. The Canadian government flew to the region and accused 0.99

00:19:51.920 the Jews of doing what Hamas had done to the Jews. If you read through the 86 pages, you'll see that

00:19:59.760 probably a hundred names of different diplomats and bureaucrats were working on this visit.

00:20:04.860 The messaging, the briefing notes, the itinerary. Not one of them called Hamas or the PLO terrorist.

00:20:10.520 Not one. Not one of them thought that October 7th was the crime. It was barely mentioned. It was an

00:20:16.760 afterthought. October. October. They don't say what happened. Israel's reaction to October was the crime. 0.75

00:20:23.300 Israel was the aggressor. Israel was the violent one. Israel was the terrorist one. 86 pages. The only 0.62

00:20:28.680 reference to that word is to call it Israelis terrorists. October 7th was about murder and rape, 0.98

00:20:34.260 but Canada accused only Israel of rape. I think Global Affairs Canada is as anti-Semitic as Hamas 0.96

00:20:42.740 itself. There's no difference in tone or blame or factual lies. How can you do a biography of the

00:20:50.700 arch-terrorist Mahmoud Abbas and not mention any of that? Not mention his role as a killer? Not mention

00:20:57.380 his expertise in anti-Semitic Holocaust denial? How can you claim he's elected when he's in fact a dictator?

00:21:03.800 And how can you ignore what he's doing right now with his pay-for-slay scheme? I have a theory,

00:21:12.380 if I'm being generous. I think Melanie Jolie is actually sort of stupid. I'm not saying that as 1.00

00:21:18.200 an insult. I think she is just sort of dumb as a person. I think she was appointed to cabinet because 1.00

00:21:23.960 she's pretty and she meets the demographics that Trudeau was after in 2015. 0.94

00:21:28.400 Your cabinet, you said, looks a lot like Canada. I understand one of the priorities for you was to

00:21:33.920 have a cabinet that was gender balanced. Why was that so important to you?

00:21:39.520 Because it's 2015.

00:21:46.400 Canadians elected extraordinary members of parliament from across the country.

00:21:52.200 I think she knows nothing about 200 foreign countries, but she was appointed to foreign

00:21:58.360 affairs anyways. I think it's actually possible that she's so dumb, sorry, that she just reads her 1.00

00:22:06.520 briefing notes and is too uninformed and unintelligent and uncritical to be skeptical of them. And if 100 0.99

00:22:13.560 Global Affairs Canada bureaucrats and diplomats and other staff tell her that the only terrorists are the

00:22:19.320 Jews and the only victims are the Palestinians, it's not like she knows anything about history 0.74

00:22:25.560 or geography on her own. She just might be that dumb. Smart enough to see that Hamas thugs rule the 1.00

00:22:32.760 streets in Canada, including in riots in her own city of Montreal. So she's smart enough to know that she

00:22:39.560 doesn't want to get on the wrong side of Hamas. She knows that Hamas has the votes and the energy in 0.73

00:22:45.560 Canada. Better not to upset them. And if all the experts, including scholars and PhDs working for

00:22:52.360 the Canadian government, if they all tell her how evil Israel is, maybe she's not that stupid to go 1.00

00:22:58.920 along with them. If all the smart people are saying that, if every single one of your staff 0.99

00:23:04.040 are saying that Israel are the terrorists and Hamas are the victims, maybe you just go along with it if 1.00

00:23:10.680 you want to get ahead in the Trudeau government. That's a possible excuse for her. It's possible.

00:23:18.440 But what about Yaara Sachs? She's a double citizen in Israel and Canada. She's Jewish. She's someone

00:23:27.400 who claims to care about anti-Semitism and terrorism. So what's her excuse? Why did she sit there in the

00:23:35.400 meeting with Hamas and not ask a single question about terrorism, about anti-Semitism, about pay for

00:23:41.320 slay, about the victims of the Munich Olympics? Why has she not asked him since then to release the

00:23:47.400 hostages? They spent a lot of time together, very pleasantly. Why hasn't she phoned him up and said

00:23:52.600 to release the hostages? Why has she done only one thing? Posing for a selfie with that murderer,

00:24:01.640 thereby giving him moral credibility, giving him the moral approval as a Jew? 0.93

00:24:07.880 Melanie Jolie is the worst foreign minister Canada has had in memory. She's stupid as a plank. 1.00

00:24:14.440 No one important listens to her. She's sort of a joke. We all know that. But for Yaara Sachs to 1.00

00:24:21.080 participate in this orgy of anti-Semitism, well, that's something we haven't seen on this scale

00:24:27.880 since the Holocaust itself, when some Jewish capos, as they were called, actually became turncoats and

00:24:36.040 ran errands for the Nazis in the ghettos, in the concentration camps, sometimes actually selecting the

00:24:43.880 Jews who would die, doing that errand for the Nazis. Now, Yaara Sachs obviously did not select the Jews 0.83

00:24:51.800 who would die on October 7th. I won't go that far. But she smiled and held a murderer's hand and

00:24:59.880 participated in a massive moral cover-up of his anti-Semitic violence. She was the linchpin in a 0.51

00:25:07.880 way. The Melanie Jolie visit to Mahmoud Abbas was a major Canadian operation that would have shocked the

00:25:15.960 world as Canada officially endorsing a terrorist entity, which it was. But with Yaara Sachs offering

00:25:25.000 to give the whole thing her blessing, offering to sit there and smile and hold his hand while they all 0.98

00:25:30.920 talked about those violent terrorist rapist Israelis, she whitewashed this whole sordid affair. 0.93

00:25:38.120 I want you to read the documents for yourself at thesaxfiles.com, S-A-K-S, and realize just how 1.00

00:25:47.480 anti-Semitic Canada's foreign affairs department has become, just how stupid and immoral Melanie Jolie 1.00

00:25:54.200 is, and what a disgrace to her community and to her family that Trudeau Jew Yaara Sachs is. 1.00

00:26:03.160 Stay with us for more.

00:26:17.640 Hey everybody, the first time I met Mark Carney was at the World Economic Forum in Davos,

00:26:23.080 Switzerland. It was almost exactly a year ago at their January 2025 meeting. My colleague Avi

00:26:30.040 Yemini had actually scrummed him one or two years in advance of that so that he knew

00:26:36.520 Rebel News. Even if he wasn't following Rebel News online, he had interacted with Avi before. So I saw

00:26:43.640 Avi, who's from Australia, banter with Mark Carney, and I sort of moved in on it because I thought,

00:26:48.680 you know what, I've got some Canadian questions for him. And I asked him a few questions about Canada,

00:26:53.480 including about LNG, liquefied natural gas, if I recall. But I specifically talked to him about

00:27:01.000 press freedom because just days earlier, Chrystia Freeland had her bodyguard arrest our friend David

00:27:07.560 Menzies. Anyways, here's what Mark Carney said to me about 13 and a half months ago in Davos,

00:27:14.440 Switzerland. Take a look.

00:27:15.960 You guys are buddies. Talk to a Canuck. I'm great. Nice to see you. But seriously,

00:27:21.160 he needs help. He's down 20 points. He has a gender gap. Women are choosing conservatives more 0.98

00:27:27.320 than liberals. I don't remember the last time that happened. What advice would you have for the

00:27:31.960 youngster? Going to a central banker for political advice is never a good idea. Come on,

00:27:37.720 we know that you're in the line. I heard you had a meeting the other day with

00:27:42.120 the prime minister in Ottawa. Is that correct? I'd see the prime minister from time to time.

00:27:47.640 In what capacity, may I ask? Well, I do a lot of work on climate, as you know.

00:27:54.600 I'm sure a big fan of that. Do you ever register as a lobbyist or is it just friendship?

00:28:00.200 Sorry, I don't. When you meet with the PM on climate,

00:28:03.640 are you there on your own behalf or are you there on behalf of a company lobbyist?

00:28:06.840 I am the UN special envoy on climate action and finance.

00:28:12.280 And what do you make? It's a bitter cold in Canada, down to minus 40s.

00:28:15.800 Yeah, back home in Alberta. It was minus 40.

00:28:18.760 And Gilboa is saying go to electric cars. That doesn't work.

00:28:21.560 Back in for a week. Well, you've got to have, watch out, you've got to have the full,

00:28:26.120 you've got to have full capacity, right? And you've got to have,

00:28:30.120 you've got to, you know, one of the things we're going to need to do

00:28:32.600 in Canada, across Canada. And this is, you know, for the benefit of jobs in the country is,

00:28:39.560 is build out the grid. You can't switch before you build it out, number one. Number two,

00:28:45.000 one of the things you need, regardless of the form of energy you have, we have, is also to have

00:28:53.880 what's called a capacity market alongside the electricity market. 0.50

00:28:58.120 So you think that Gilboa's plan is a little bit hasty since we haven't done those foundational

00:29:02.040 things? Well, I think what's important is that, you know, whether it's in Alberta, Ontario, Canada,

00:29:08.920 Australia, for that matter, is that you have to, yeah, you have to build, you have to build.

00:29:14.440 And it's a, it's a time to build. And look, we're in a position where we in Canada are in a position

00:29:22.120 where we have been an energy superpower. We can continue to be an energy superpower. We've always,

00:29:29.320 we've always had the ability to develop new sources of energy.

00:29:35.640 But the PM said there was no market for natural gas. How do you feel about natural gas, especially

00:29:40.040 to relieve Ukraine and other Europeans from Russian gas? How come they're buying Russian gas and

00:29:45.880 Qatari gas? But Justin Trudeau won't let them buy Canadian gas? Well, we would have to get to build

00:29:51.800 the trains in order to do the, what are called LNG trains in order to get the gas to them.

00:29:57.160 Well, God, this is a long interview, isn't it? I'm enjoying it. And I'm, and I'm doing my best to

00:30:01.160 be fair and friendly. If this was Canada, you could have him arrested. Did you see that?

00:30:07.720 Your rival, Christy Freeland, had one of our reporters arrested. I don't think she did. I think

00:30:12.040 she didn't say a word against it. Um, on

00:30:18.280 the incident, um, as you guys know very well, Canada is a rule of law country. Canada is a democracy.

00:30:28.120 Operational decisions about law enforcement are taken by the police of jurisdiction.

00:30:34.600 Quite appropriately, political elected officials have no role in the taking of those decisions.

00:30:42.920 And that's why I don't have any further comment.

00:30:44.840 It was the wrong thing. It was absolutely the wrong thing.

00:30:48.040 Well, thank you for saying that. Look, freedom of the press. I've, look, I've,

00:30:54.200 I've been a public figure in Canada, been a public figure in the UK. I know you got to answer tough

00:30:59.080 questions and you guys, you know, you asked tough questions and that's fair.

00:31:02.200 Well, I want to thank you for saying that because I have to say, Christy Freeland has not yet said

00:31:06.520 anything, uh, in the, in the vein that you have. She's been happy to let the cops do her work for 0.82

00:31:11.400 her. And if she disagrees with the cops, she hasn't said so.

00:31:15.560 Well, uh, I've said what I said. So, but look, the questions you were asking earlier about, uh,

00:31:21.000 energy and I'm going to have to, well, thanks for your time. I really appreciate it.

00:31:24.520 Uh, well, that came across as positively friendly. And did you hear his point there about how we were

00:31:33.000 asking good, but tough, but fair questions or whatever he phrased it? It's true. Well,

00:31:39.000 that was when he really had no political skin in the game in Canada. He was back then working for

00:31:45.080 the United Nations and he really didn't care what we had to say to him or about him. Now he's running

00:31:51.880 for the leadership of the liberal party. And if he wins, he'll immediately be selected, appointed to

00:31:58.280 be the head of the liberal party in the house of commons. And surely he'll cook a deal up with

00:32:02.760 Jagmeet Singh and become prime minister thereby. So you have a guy going from absolute man on the street,

00:32:08.360 ordinary person to prime minister without winning a single Canadian election. It's astonishing.

00:32:14.840 But you'd think such a man would permit himself to be interrogated by journalists just in the public

00:32:20.840 interest. If you thought so, you would be wrong. And bizarrely, he has the apparatus of the state

00:32:26.760 working for him already. Here's when David Menzies attempted to go to a Mark Carney event in the greater

00:32:31.800 Toronto area last week. And the RCMP were providing him secret service style protection. Take a look.

00:32:39.240 Kearney, for some reason, has the RCMP in his personal protection. Last I checked,

00:32:46.040 he wasn't the prime minister yet. He's not even the liberal leader yet. What's going on?

00:32:49.960 I don't know. That's one of the questions I'd like to know. Because he's still a private

00:32:54.760 citizen and he's not entitled to this type of protection. In fact, there's a gentleman there

00:32:58.680 at the door. He's actually used to, he's on Justin's detail quite often. And there's another one

00:33:05.960 that's been on Justin's detail. Surely not uncle faster. Why does Mark Carney have secret service

00:33:11.400 style RCMP protection? He's a private citizen. He hasn't won anything yet. He's not an MP

00:33:16.920 in any way. Since when did he just have that arranged for him? It's happening in Calgary too.

00:33:23.800 Yesterday, Mark Carney was an event in Calgary and some journalists were invited. Others showed up.

00:33:28.440 None were allowed in, including the ones who were invited. And again, the RCMP and local police were

00:33:35.160 there. One of the journalists who attended was our own Angelica Toy. And here's the question she put 1.00

00:33:43.000 to Mark Carney. Mark Carney, why did you lie about moving the head office of Brookfield?

00:33:49.080 Are you friends with Ghislaine Maxwell or is she just an acquaintance?

00:33:56.600 Those are fair questions. Why did you lie about moving your corporate headquarters

00:34:00.840 from Toronto to New York? And the second one is a very interesting one.

00:34:06.120 His friendship with Ghislaine Maxwell. If you don't know who that is,

00:34:09.640 that is the right hand woman to the late Jeffrey Epstein. She was the procurer of child prostitutes 0.99

00:34:18.360 who enslaved and exploited young girls for Jeffrey Epstein and his circles. You would think it's 0.98

00:34:24.760 astonishing that anyone would truck with them, but you, it is astonishing, but it certainly hasn't

00:34:29.400 stopped Bill Gates who met with Epstein dozens of times, so many times that his wife divorced him

00:34:36.200 over that. Remember that? Here's Melinda Gates explaining that. You know, it was also widely

00:34:40.680 reported that Bill had a friendship or business or some kind of contact with Jeffrey Epstein. It's not

00:34:47.480 one thing. It was many things, but I did not like, uh, that he'd had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein. No.

00:34:55.480 And you made that clear to him. I made that clear to him. Melinda admits she met Epstein and doesn't

00:35:01.320 mince words about her first impression. I wanted to see who this man was. And, um,

00:35:07.880 I regretted it from the second I stepped in the door. He was abhorrent. He was evil personified.

00:35:15.000 I had nightmares about it afterwards. My God, I feel terrible for those young women. It was awful.

00:35:20.600 Well, part of the reason I think that, uh, Mark Carney is not engaging with independent journalists or

00:35:26.520 frankly, many Canadian journalists at all. The reason that he and other liberals are preferring

00:35:31.320 American New York late night talk show hosts is that they will not ask difficult questions

00:35:37.000 such as the ones you just saw put. Joining us now is our reporter who was on the scene last night,

00:35:42.200 Angelica Toya. Angelica, thanks for taking the time with us today. Um, it looks like you were not

00:35:47.080 allowed to get any closer than you did there. Tell me how police or others pushed back journalists

00:35:54.360 like yourself. So initially I went into the event just like the other media. And I would ask the

00:36:03.160 woman that was there that was, um, kind of working with all of us. And she said that she would see if

00:36:08.760 I could get approved. She took my name down and then went to the back. And then when she came back,

00:36:13.480 I had been already talking with Western standard that was also there inside. And we ended up both

00:36:19.480 getting removed and crazy enough, the Western standard actually had a letter, um, to, uh, get

00:36:25.800 pre-registered, but their excuse was that we both weren't registered. So they booted us both.

00:36:31.960 So what did they say? You said their excuse was you weren't registered, but you were there

00:36:36.600 to register. Registering really just means going through some formality. You were there,

00:36:41.640 you were saying I'm here to register. Looks like Western standard had done so in advance. Was there any

00:36:47.240 substantive reason other than the technical loophole that you weren't registered? Did they,

00:36:53.560 did they object in some way? Did they say there was a problem of some sort?

00:36:58.920 They just said that we weren't pre-registered. So that was an excuse. Um, afterwards though,

00:37:03.960 I did stick around and I went to the back of the building where all of Mark Carney's RCMP security

00:37:09.480 vehicles were. Um, and I stuck around for a while in my car, uh, and they didn't seem to bug me at

00:37:17.000 all. They kept walking by at one point, actually sat down behind the building and, uh, just hung

00:37:22.840 around there on, on this bench. And one of the security officers actually came up and said hello

00:37:27.000 to me, nothing beyond that. And then later I get back in my car and all of a sudden I see police

00:37:32.840 officers making their way towards, um, sorry, their way towards the vehicle. And, um, right before that,

00:37:40.040 though, um, sorry, right before the police got my vehicle, I saw this white car pull in and I looked

00:37:45.800 through the window. I'm like, Hey, I recognize that guy. Um, and it was Mark Miller. And so I

00:37:51.800 waited till he got out of his vehicle and I hopped out of mine and then I, um, asked them a question.

00:37:57.480 Um, and then immediately right after that, that's when the police came around the corner and

00:38:01.960 said that if I hadn't left the property that they were going to trespass me.

00:38:05.400 Now, Mark Miller has a different legal status, I suppose, and that he is an elected

00:38:11.400 member of parliament and a member of cabinet. If I'm not mistaken, he's still in cabinet.

00:38:15.640 He's the immigration minister. So, I mean, it's, it's absurd to me that Mark Carney won't ask

00:38:21.240 any questions. He's about to become PM, but Mark Miller is an MP and a cabinet minister. This is a

00:38:26.680 public event and police were shooing you away from even asking him questions. And they came up to your

00:38:33.000 car. Let's play a clip of that with Mark Miller. Hi, sir. Just a quick question. Do you think

00:38:37.560 it's worth harming, uh, Canadian farmers and all that at the expense of net zero?

00:38:43.000 Do you think it's worth harming farmers and all that, all the industries, small businesses at the

00:38:47.720 cost of net zero? Hi, no, dad, I got this. Hi. My name is Consul and I've been Casca.

00:38:56.280 So from what we understand is, um, security asked you guys to leave. Yes. We're just trying to figure

00:39:00.680 things out. I have my parents with me. So we're just, we, I just got back in the car and then I

00:39:04.760 saw somebody that I wanted to ask a question to, which I did. But if you guys want to see if we can

00:39:08.760 leave now, are we going to get trespassed if we don't leave? Well, I think that's what it will come

00:39:13.160 to. Yeah. Okay. Okay. In that case, we will completely comply with that. And I appreciate

00:39:16.600 you guys coming over and talking to us and I like your sunglasses. Thank you. You know, there's something

00:39:22.040 that I find repulsive about police being sickly sweet as they tell you something atrocious.

00:39:28.760 We saw some of that during the pandemic as well. Police being conscripted to run political errands,

00:39:35.000 to say absurd things. The police saying, if you don't leave here, you will be arrested at a public

00:39:42.600 event with public personalities in the public interest. I accept that the building may have

00:39:48.120 been private property, but there's something astonishing about police running those errands

00:39:53.000 to protect politicians from any scrutiny, don't you think? Yes, correct. That's the thing. We

00:40:00.280 should be able to question those serving the Canadian people, correct? Like when journalists

00:40:07.240 aren't allowed to question people in power, we should have some concern. Were there any other

00:40:13.640 mainstream journalists? And if so, were they allowed in? Yes, we did see all this in two news

00:40:20.200 vehicle. Um, they were allowed in and I was looking around as I was in the room. I saw the post and

00:40:26.520 of course, all the pre-approved media. Well, that's even odder. So he, so what,

00:40:31.080 it was an event open to the media, but just not independent media citizen journalists, or dare I say,

00:40:37.080 conservative leaning journalists, that's really creepy. And, and I think it proves that Mark Carney

00:40:42.600 was lying to me last year when he said he accepts the fact that if you're in the public domain,

00:40:48.360 you have public questions. I think Mark Carney, um, in a way he's not ready to, for the job. If you

00:40:58.280 are afraid of getting some questions from prickly citizen journalists, if, if that terrifies you so much

00:41:04.920 that you're willing to sick police on them, you're probably not ready to go toe to toe with

00:41:09.480 Donald Trump or Vladimir Putin. I mean, if you really lack the ability to, like there's, there's

00:41:14.920 nothing you could say. There's nothing I could say to Mark Carney that would be so devastating

00:41:20.680 that it would derail his campaign for prime minister. Maybe we would ask him a tough question,

00:41:24.840 but if it was about Ghislaine Maxwell, I know he has an answer. He would say, oh,

00:41:29.080 we're just acquaintances and we met them once at a public event, whatever it is. He has an answer.

00:41:35.400 The fact that he declines to give it and declines to have the interaction with you

00:41:40.280 shows a condescension that does not befit a man who would be the servant of all Canadians.

00:41:46.280 If he thinks that he is a VVIP corporate tycoon, former chairman of this billion dollar asset

00:41:52.840 management company, if that's how he thinks of himself, that he's above you and me, he's not

00:41:57.960 going to work out well as a prime minister, which is actually a servant's job, not a master's job.

00:42:03.000 Last word to you, Angelica. 0.87

00:42:05.640 Correct. And he also just can't seem to address the actual fact that he lied to Canadians.

00:42:11.240 This shows no integrity and no ownership. So when he messes up, if he becomes prime minister,

00:42:17.800 how is he going to respond to that? Is he going to continue to lie, mislead Canadians?

00:42:21.400 How can we trust somebody like that? Additionally, just the fact that he actually moved that company

00:42:30.120 from Canada into the United States, that means job loss for Canadians. So what kind of a prime

00:42:36.200 minister are we going to have if he is moving Canadian jobs into the United States?

00:42:40.680 Yeah. The crazy thing is he did it after Donald Trump became president, when Donald Trump said,

00:42:46.840 I want that border fixed or I'm going to put tariffs on you. That is when Mark, like it was

00:42:51.880 just a few weeks ago that he did that. It's just astonishing. Well, thanks for going there. And

00:42:57.320 very frustrating that our politicians continue to be afraid of independent journalists. But in a way,

00:43:02.920 that's a kind of praise. The fact that they're not afraid of the CBC or other journalists says more about

00:43:08.360 the CBC and other journalists than it does about us. Thanks for your time, Angelica.

00:43:12.440 Absolutely. All right. There you have it. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:43:24.920 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me. Logan Bothwell says about the U.S. tariffs,

00:43:30.680 Trudeau just cut his own throat by referring to the president as Donald. I can hardly wait to see

00:43:35.320 what the president says. No, I don't think so. I mean, presidents and prime ministers,

00:43:40.280 they call each other by their first name. It's not rare, especially if they've known each other for

00:43:44.600 years. And remember, they did have a fair bit of overlap. Trump was elected in 2016, Trudeau in 2015.

00:43:50.920 So they've talked to each other dozens of times. That's not the problem. I think the problem is Trudeau

00:43:57.720 has insulted Trump over the years. But even that's not the problem. Many world leaders have,

00:44:03.160 including Keir Starmer of the UK. I think the problem is Trudeau simply doesn't care about

00:44:09.640 getting a deal. It's that moral hazard we talked about. This is the best thing that's ever happened

00:44:14.280 to him, this fight. It's let him play Captain Canada. In fact, Trump in a tweet today asks,

00:44:22.680 maybe Trudeau's having so much fun, he's not going to actually leave. It's a theory.

00:44:27.480 Steve Dennis says, zero negotiations, straight to threats and knee-jerk reactions. They won't be

00:44:33.640 paying for it, but all the rest of us will. You know, I think that if Stephen Harper were

00:44:39.080 prime minister, two things. First of all, this wouldn't have spilled out like this, because I

00:44:43.720 think Harper would have got on the phone and handled things in a responsible, grown-up,

00:44:49.000 friendly, let's work together kind of way. Why do I say that? Because that's what Harper did with 1.00

00:44:55.080 Barack Obama. They were like oil and water, those two. They couldn't be more different,

00:44:59.240 but they kept it together. They didn't fight in public. And remember, it was Trudeau who gave the

00:45:04.760 idea to Trump of Canada being evaporated. Remember, it was Trudeau who said that if the trade imbalance

00:45:13.640 were ever ended, Canada would cease to exist as a country. Why would you say something so stupid as 1.00

00:45:19.720 that? Last letter from James Sherwood, who says, Freeland mouthing about nuclear weapons was too 1.00

00:45:25.800 far. The line is gone. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing about Trump, is if you don't, I mean,

00:45:33.560 if you're going to try and out-bully him, it's not going to work. I think the worst thing I saw was

00:45:38.760 Ontario Premier Doug Ford threatened to turn off the electricity to America,

00:45:43.960 which would cause death. When you turn off electricity to hospitals and schools and

00:45:48.200 entire communities, that's a disaster. That's like an act of war almost. It's one thing to put a tax on

00:45:55.160 someone, but if you're literally going to turn off the electricity to a country's hospitals, 1.00

00:46:00.440 it's such a stupid thing. It can't be serious. America would do a lot of things that are almost 1.00

00:46:06.840 unthinkable if that were ever to happen. But to say that is a taunt or a dare. It's like saying to

00:46:15.080 a bully, oh yeah? How about this? And flicking them on the nose. You really can't out-bully Donald

00:46:21.160 Trump because, as he said to Zelensky the other day, you don't have the cards. You can't out-bully

00:46:26.280 Trump. You don't have to be groveling towards him. You do have to show him some respect, at least

00:46:32.360 rhetorical respect. And I think that, I think the number one thing I think you do is you don't,

00:46:38.600 as J.D. Vance said, you don't litigate in public. I think a lot of people disagree with Trump.

00:46:44.680 And I think they do it in private. And then they go out in public and put on a brave face. And if

00:46:49.640 you don't like that, well, sorry, that's how the world is, I think. Crazy days. That's our show for

00:46:57.800 today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:47:02.280 good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - March 06, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rebel News obtains EXCLUSIVE DOCS into cabinet meeting with terrorist leader

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