Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Should Canada go to war in Ukraine？ Against Russia？ Should we punish Russian-Canadians in some way？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I try and make sense of the plan that NATO and Canadian generals and

00:00:08.340 American diplomats have for Ukraine. I'm trying to figure out what they want to do. I focus a bit

00:00:13.560 on Rick Hillier, formerly Canada's top soldier, and his plan for a no-fly zone over Ukraine. I'll

00:00:21.420 take you through it, and I'll also show you some old videos of the Ukrainian president, Vladimir

00:00:26.040 Zelenko, who's quite a character. I'll show you some videos, and I'll ask you what you think we

00:00:31.480 should do. So that's in today's show. Let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's

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00:00:41.360 that Zelenko did, including one called Servant of the People, where he played the president of

00:00:47.880 Ukraine in a movie. By the way, he was also the voice of Paddington Bear for that movie in Ukraine.

00:00:55.380 He's an interesting character. He won Dancing with the Stars 15 years ago. I don't know if you know

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00:01:31.460 Tonight, should Canada go to war in Ukraine against Russia? Should we punish Russian Canadians in some 0.99

00:01:55.340 way? I'll take you through the latest big ideas from our leaders. It's March 2nd, and this is the

00:02:00.920 Ezra LeVant Show.

00:02:04.260 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:02:08.000 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:02:12.080 The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:02:17.940 Look, I'm against war. I think most people are, other than maybe arms dealers. I'm skeptical of

00:02:28.920 Vladimir Putin. He's an authoritarian ruler who has suspended civil liberties in Russia and seeks to

00:02:34.440 dominate Russia's neighbors to recreate an empire. He invaded the country of Georgia. He's invaded Ukraine 0.60

00:02:42.360 several times, and he has eyes on other independent countries that were once part of the Warsaw Pact,

00:02:49.200 sort of the Russian response to NATO. One of my main arguments in my books, First Ethical Oil,

00:02:57.140 which was obviously about the oil sands, and my follow-up book called Groundswell,

00:03:03.460 which was about fracking, mainly natural gas. One of my arguments was that for every barrel of oil or

00:03:10.180 every cubic foot of natural gas that we produce here in Canada, that's one less that will be produced

00:03:16.040 and sold by the world's bad actors, mainly OPEC dictatorships in Russia. I tell you that in case 0.91

00:03:23.960 you somehow think that I support Vladimir Putin or his territorial ambitions. Of course, I don't.

00:03:30.820 And of course, I don't like to see the reports out of Ukraine of violence and casualties, though it is

00:03:36.080 very hard in the fog of war to trust reports, especially on social media. There are a lot of

00:03:41.800 fakes. And by that, I mean propaganda from both the Ukraine side and the Russian side. For example,

00:03:48.900 there are a lot of images from other wars that are being republished afresh, pretending to be images

00:03:54.940 from this war. So you have to be very careful about rumors, I think. The Russian Ministry of Defense

00:04:01.440 has said that it has had almost 500 deaths and 1,500 wounded Russian soldiers so far. It's a pretty 1.00

00:04:09.440 heavy death toll, especially given the military advantages that Russia holds over Ukraine.

00:04:14.160 The fact that the Russian government itself publishes these numbers means, I would think,

00:04:19.160 that it is the minimum actual number. I don't know what the number on the Ukraine side would be,

00:04:25.320 but that's a real war. The best way to win a war, of course, is to avoid it. In the first place,

00:04:30.440 I note that Russia and Iran and China and North Korea didn't try any wars when Donald Trump was

00:04:35.940 in office. Even the Taliban in Afghanistan were suppressed, even though Trump was working on an

00:04:41.880 exit plan. I think it's incontrovertible that the sudden collapse of Afghanistan under Joe Biden

00:04:48.960 and the Russian invasion of Ukraine and China's new saber rattling about Taiwan are all 100% attributable

00:04:56.500 to having Joe Biden in office, whose policies of appeasement are disastrous in themselves.

00:05:02.940 They invite America's enemies to take chances, to take liberties. But his obvious mental decline 0.51

00:05:08.820 is just pitiful in the true meaning of that word. I mean, look at this from last night's State of the

00:05:13.800 Union address. He calls Ukrainians, Iranians, people from Iran. As Kamala Harris mouths the right word,

00:05:23.120 wishing he said it. It's painful to watch.

00:05:25.800 Putin may circle Kiev with tanks, but he'll never gain the hearts and souls of the Iranian people. 0.72

00:05:32.300 He'll never extinguish our love of freedom. And he will never, never weaken the resolve of the free world.

00:05:39.220 Yeah, there were way too many of those moments last night. Here's another one.

00:05:44.240 It's time to see the what used to be called a rust belt become the home of a significant resurgence

00:05:56.360 of manufacturing. And with all the bright spots in our economy.

00:06:02.780 Does anyone actually think that Joe Biden is the one making the decisions in the White House?

00:06:08.100 And if he's not, who is? Is it some committee? That's not the way to be decisive in dangerous

00:06:14.900 times. Oh, and I'm pretty sure it's not Kamala Harris. This radio interview she gave is real.

00:06:19.800 This is not a fake. If you're watching any level of news, even social media, you're seeing everything

00:06:24.400 that's going on right now in the Ukraine. Break it down in layman's terms for people who don't

00:06:28.620 understand what's going on and how can this directly affect the people of the United States?

00:06:32.880 So Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger 0.64

00:06:42.460 country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine.

00:06:48.600 So basically that's wrong. But it's not just America's enemies that are filling the leadership

00:06:54.260 void. Without America leading the free world's countries in a clear and compelling way,

00:06:59.580 others are trying to fill the gap. Here's Canada's retired general, Rick Hilliard. I'm going to play

00:07:05.780 an extended clip here. It's about two minutes long. Hilliard sounds very nice and very reasonable.

00:07:11.780 And I can hear that touch of Newfoundland in his accent. The tone of his voice is wonderful,

00:07:16.200 but listen to what he's actually saying so calmly. Now, this is a clip of him on the CBC,

00:07:20.920 but he said the same things on CTV. And in neither place was he particularly challenged. Take a listen.

00:07:26.680 The same in the army, you know, hey, shoot the 25-meter targets first. Worry about the stuff

00:07:31.140 coming down the road later on. The sanctions may impact some of that coming down the road. They

00:07:35.800 may not, but they may. But right now, they need weapon systems. They need ammo. They need long-range

00:07:41.000 systems. And they need a no-fly zone over the Ukraine to allow them to operate, to defend their

00:07:46.880 own country, and to be able to actually stand up to Putin and in negotiation say, hey, we'll accept

00:07:52.240 the unconditional surrender of all the Russian soldiers in the Ukraine. And now, how can we get

00:07:56.400 along in the future here? They can last inside of those built-up areas, but it is going to be

00:08:02.260 brutal. And they can't last unless we give them better defensive support, better weapons, better,

00:08:09.260 more ammunition, and better ammunition, and the kind of things that they need. But that no-fly zone,

00:08:14.160 you know, I know NATO is a defensive organization, but hey, you don't start defense at your front door.

00:08:19.040 NATO ran a war in Afghanistan. NATO tried to conduct operations in Afghanistan in August,

00:08:24.440 did not do so well at that one. But you start your defense earlier than that. That no-fly zone,

00:08:29.140 I posted about it, you know, a week ago. We should have been doing it. Putin might have had second

00:08:33.300 sort of thoughts before he launched if we had done it. Okay, you've given us a lot to unpack there,

00:08:37.740 because I do want to start on that very point that you're making around the no-fly zone, because

00:08:41.320 I'm sure you've seen over the last number of days, the U.S. is getting tons of questions.

00:08:45.920 We're, our government is getting questions. Our allies are getting questions. And the answer has

00:08:50.140 been fairly similar across the table. No, that would be perceived as an escalatory move. And that

00:08:56.040 would definitely ratchet up the war rather than de-escalate it. What is your response to, for

00:09:02.240 example, the Canadian government, which today, you know, just unequivocally said, that's a no-go at

00:09:06.460 this point for us? Hey, you know, we're not putting our actions where our mouth is. We're saying,

00:09:11.580 well, Ukraine has resolved. We're there behind you. We've got the colors of the Ukraine on the 0.75

00:09:15.720 P-Star. You know, something that's complete assistance short of real help. And what they

00:09:19.980 need is a no-fly zone. What they need are weapons, and what they need are ammunition, is ammunition.

00:09:24.600 And what they need are people to come and fill out that international brigade or brigades that they

00:09:28.960 want to form also to actually fight the Russians that are on the ground right now, those 25-meter 1.00

00:09:34.120 targets. Hey, this got escalated when Putin said he was going to invade and then did so. It got

00:09:39.300 escalated when they attacked those infrastructure, those buildings where the civilians are. And it

00:09:45.220 got escalated, or gets escalated every time there's a Russian tank fighting vehicle or soldier that

00:09:51.200 crosses that border into the Ukraine and attacks and tries to kill somebody. You know, at some point

00:09:57.060 in time, we're going to face Putin and the Russians over this one. And if we have any hope of ever 0.98

00:10:03.560 getting Putin removed from power inside of Russia, the folks that are around him as cronies, I think

00:10:10.040 back to 20 July 1944, when people around Hitler were going to do the same, I'm reminded of that

00:10:15.080 when I see Putin sitting at that long table. You know, we've got to actually show some backbone in

00:10:19.580 the West. I think Canada could lead the way in that one. We do need a no-fly zone. We have the

00:10:24.240 technology. We have the forces. We have the capability to do it. And say very clearly to the Russian

00:10:29.140 people, not just to Putin. Here's what we are doing, because we cannot accept what's occurring.

00:10:34.520 There's a lot in there. If I'm hearing him right, he wants Canada to lead the attack

00:10:41.240 on the Russian Air Force. Canada, I mean, I like Canada. I like it a lot. I was born here.

00:10:48.880 We are very, very far away from Russia and Ukraine. And our Royal Canadian Air Force fighters,

00:10:54.280 their CF-18 jets, which were first delivered to us in 1983. And then we bought some of Australia's

00:11:04.060 used F-18s when they got rid of them because they were buying new jets. We were supposed to

00:11:09.580 get new jets too, the modern F-35 jet. But Trudeau nixed that. So Rick Hillier wants to send our

00:11:17.420 Canadian CF-18s, almost 40 years old. Next year's the 40th anniversary. And he wants to lead the battle

00:11:26.140 into Ukraine to shoot down any Russian aircraft. That's what a no-fly zone means. No helicopters,

00:11:32.700 no jets. With our CF-18s, I don't even know how they're going to get there.

00:11:38.220 Take a look at these images here. These are actual Russian jets. Russia has some jets from

00:11:47.000 the 80s still in its Air Force, MiG-29s they're called. But those are the oldest, the worst jets

00:11:53.580 they have. They have many more modern planes, including jets that are meant to rival the latest

00:12:00.580 American jets, the F-35, the F-22. I'm not trying to get technical here. I'm just saying

00:12:04.660 it would be a suicidal errand for little Canada to try to take on the Russian Air Force.

00:12:12.740 Just from a military point of view, a logistics point of view, Russia's right there. Canada's

00:12:17.800 over here. You're not going to win. And the comments about that being in some sort of defensive move

00:12:23.980 that NATO should adopt, how is sending Canadian jets into a war between two non-NATO countries,

00:12:31.720 a defensive act that could possibly be justified by NATO's charter? You're going to take off from

00:12:38.000 NATO airfields and attack Russia? And you don't think they're going to attack back? You know,

00:12:43.200 there are other former Soviet colonies, thank God they've been liberated now, that have joined NATO, 0.98

00:12:49.660 Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania. Do you know they're part of NATO now? One of Putin's

00:12:56.360 complaints is that NATO is trying to encircle Russia. Of course, the response to that is NATO

00:13:02.280 is defensive. Russia doesn't have anything to worry about if it doesn't attack them. These are 0.52

00:13:07.100 all countries that Russia has dominated in the past. They have good reason to join a defensive 0.99

00:13:11.880 alliance. But how is going in to positively make war against Russia in a non-NATO country like Ukraine,

00:13:20.060 how is that possibly a NATO decision? And did you hear that part about regime change that General

00:13:27.460 Hillier was talking about, about trying to topple Putin? Listen, I would much rather have a liberal

00:13:33.420 Democrat running Russia too. I'm not sure how many of those there are, to be honest. Russia feels a bit

00:13:40.420 like an oligarchy, basically run by a group of self-dealing billionaires who ring out the country for

00:13:47.300 political power and wealth and make sure they keep the top dog Putin well compensated. I don't know,

00:13:53.980 the closest analogy I can think of is the mafia. Putin is the Tony Soprano character. If you knock

00:13:59.960 off the mob boss, you will get another mob boss to take his place. You're not going to find some

00:14:06.420 John A. MacDonald or some George Washington waiting for his moment to usher in a new era of liberalism

00:14:12.720 and freedom and civil society. Actually, I don't think Russia has ever had such a thing. Regime

00:14:17.800 change, that's your goal? You know, that really hasn't worked out well where it's been tried before

00:14:23.400 by NATO. Afghanistan, an obvious example. Iraq, Libya toppling Muammar Gaddafi. He was not a nice

00:14:29.440 man, but look what he was replaced with. These examples come to mind that was done under Obama and

00:14:34.820 Biden as vice president. Imagine trying to do that to Russia itself, the physically largest country in the

00:14:41.220 world. One of the most populous, 150 million people. Rick Hillier has big plans for Russia. Maybe he'll be

00:14:48.980 the governor of Russia. Oh, and then there's the small matter that Russia has nuclear weapons, just that.

00:14:55.140 What's the plan here? If the decision is to punish Russia, to deter Russia, why isn't that being done through

00:15:02.120 non-military means first? Why is the West still buying oil and gas from Russia? That was put to the strategic

00:15:09.480 genius Kamala Harris today. Take a listen. Is that something that the administration would 1.00

00:15:14.720 continue, would consider in terms of further sanctions, cutting off the oil and gas part of

00:15:20.440 the economy for Russia? Well, as you know, that on this issue, for example, we applaud Germany in terms

00:15:28.100 of what it has done as it relates to Nord Stream 2, as it relates to what we need to do domestically,

00:15:34.520 as well as what we need to do in terms of this issue generally. We have, as the president said,

00:15:39.960 re-evaluated what we're doing in terms of the strategic oil reserve here in the United States to make sure

00:15:45.120 that it will not have an impact or we can mitigate the impact on the American consumer. But let's take this

00:15:51.500 one step at a time, understanding that right now, on the issue of energy, our allies have stood firm

00:15:58.360 and unified in a way that many of the pundits didn't predict would happen to ensure that we are

00:16:04.200 unified in our approach to this issue. Yeah, I don't think she answered the question, did she?

00:16:08.700 Now, look, I sympathize with Ukraine. I oppose Russia. But before we send in our CF-18s to start 0.98

00:16:14.200 World War III, shouldn't we, you know, try all peaceful means first? If you're literally buying

00:16:20.480 a billion dollars of Russian oil every day, plus the same amount in natural gas, maybe you're not

00:16:27.260 really serious about stopping Russia if you're their number one customer. What's this about? 0.73

00:16:33.340 Is it about some sort of new world order? Is it about changing the subject in the world from the

00:16:38.200 pandemic? I don't know. I honestly don't know what's going on. I like that Ukrainian president,

00:16:44.480 Vladimir Zelensky. I like how he has not fled his country as the U.S. installed Afghan leaders fled

00:16:52.560 immediately. I like that Zelensky seems to be a patriot, but I also know that he's a professional

00:17:00.060 actor. Here he is in a movie just a few years ago playing the president of Ukraine.

00:17:14.480 Hello. Good morning, Mr. Koloborovko. Can I connect you with Angela Merkel? Yes, you can

00:17:20.020 connect. Hello. My congratulations. We decided to take your country to the European Union.

00:17:26.820 Oh, fuck! Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, wow. Oh, you know, I'm so happy. Yes. Oh, thank you very much. 1.00

00:17:37.280 All the Ukrainians and all of our country. We've been waiting for this so much time.

00:17:44.280 Ukrainians? Yes, Ukrainians. Oh, I'm so sorry. That's a mistake. I was calling to Montenegro.

00:17:51.640 Montenegro. I see. Okay. Yeah, my congratulations. Yes, to Montenegro. Bye-bye.

00:18:14.160 Fuck! Here's another clip from that movie called Servant of the People, where he breaks 1.00

00:18:29.880 up a quarrel in the Ukrainian legislature by shouting that Putin has been toppled.

00:18:34.100 I'm not saying that actors can't be good leaders. One of the greatest US

00:19:03.920 presidents of all time was Ronald Reagan, who was an actor in his younger years. But even as an actor,

00:19:09.660 he had a clear philosophy. He wasn't an actor for very long. He achieved real political things in

00:19:15.600 his life. He became the governor of California, the biggest state in the union, on a clear

00:19:20.820 conservative platform. Here's Zelensky just being an actor, dancer, performer.

00:19:27.100 That makes me a little bit nervous. I'll be honest. He clearly would read any script in front of him.

00:19:53.420 Here he is in a rock video.

00:19:55.420 Look, I'm on Ukraine's side. I don't like to see countries devouring other countries.

00:20:02.420 The Russian pretext for the invasion is so obviously just a cover-up for Putin's imperialism.

00:20:30.680 I don't like the reports of casualties on any side, frankly, but especially civilians in Ukraine.

00:20:36.040 I don't like Putin, a former KGB agent trying to revive the Soviet empire.

00:20:41.560 And I think I naturally sympathize with a smaller country being beat up by a bigger country.

00:20:47.960 But would you truly send in Canadian fighter pilots and their support crews

00:20:52.280 to a war in that place right now? Rick Hillier would. Would you? I think there's a madness afoot.

00:21:02.600 People are pouring out Russian-themed vodka into the sink, even if they're made in Latvia like 1.00

00:21:09.100 Stolichnia. It's got a Russian name. It's made in Latvia, which is actually a NATO country. Seems a bit

00:21:16.140 indiscriminate. And like I say, it seems a bit of a placebo. If the West is still buying a billion

00:21:21.740 dollars of oil a day, plus however much gas a day, I just don't believe it. I mean, I get the need for

00:21:27.320 an enemy. We've seen two years of demonizing unvaccinated people. Hate is a powerful emotion.

00:21:33.560 Justin Trudeau has used it a lot lately. Look at this guy. This is Barack Obama's ambassador to

00:21:39.480 Russia. So Joe Biden was VP. Listen to what he said. He said, there are no more innocent,

00:21:45.340 neutral Russians anymore. Everyone has to make a choice, support or oppose this war. 0.68

00:21:50.620 The only way to end this war is if hundreds of thousands, not thousands,

00:21:54.040 protest against the senseless war. Putin can't arrest you all. All right. Well, Russia, it's a 0.53

00:22:00.460 nationality. It's a legal geography. It's a citizenship. I think it's an ethnicity too,

00:22:05.900 although there's many minorities in Russia. To say that Russian civilians, ordinary people who

00:22:12.220 were born in a place, are guilty because they're not actively renouncing their country

00:22:17.200 or whatever this guy is telling them to do, that's insane. And does he mean Russians in Russia only or

00:22:24.300 Russians elsewhere? You know, there's about 700,000 Canadians who answered in the last census that

00:22:30.340 they're Russian. Are they enemies too? Should we, I don't know, dust off the internment camps we used 0.81

00:22:38.060 for the Japanese Canadians 80 years ago? Should we do that again? What if you're half Russian and 0.99

00:22:43.980 half Ukrainian? Are you a good person or a bad person? What if you're a Russian living in Ukraine 1.00

00:22:50.480 or ethnically Russian in Ukraine? Does it depend on how you vote? Look, I hate to watch this war. I hate

00:22:55.980 the video images of death and destruction. And that's why they're being served up because

00:23:00.540 they're, they're so emotionally evocative. I can also detect propaganda. A lot of it. Did you see

00:23:07.160 this reporter grill British prime minister Boris Johnson the other day? Wouldn't surprise me if

00:23:12.440 the, if you saw it, a lot of people did. Uh, a woman, uh, from, uh, my team is now in Vila

00:23:19.760 Tzerkva and she is there with two kids and, uh, Russian military is over there and she's so much

00:23:27.740 afraid that she will be shot. Harkiv, the city where I was studying was bombarded today fully the

00:23:34.360 downtown square. So you're talking about the stoicism of Ukrainian people, but Ukrainian women and 1.00

00:23:40.400 Ukrainian children are in deep fear because of bombs and missiles, which are going from the sky

00:23:45.920 and Ukrainian people are desperately asking for the best to protect our sky. We are asking for the

00:23:52.340 no-fly zone. We are saying response that it will trigger world war three, but what is the alternative,

00:23:56.840 Mr. Prime Minister to observe how our children are instead of, instead of, uh, planes are protecting

00:24:04.880 NATO from their missiles and bombs. What's the alternative for the no-fly zone? We have planes here. We

00:24:11.560 have air defense system in Poland, in Romania. NATO has this air defense. At least this air defense

00:24:17.480 could shield the western Ukraine. So this, these children with women could come to the border. It's 0.95

00:24:23.720 impossible now to cross the border. There are 30 kilometers of lines. Imagine crossing the border with a 1.00

00:24:29.640 baby or with two children. I'm so glad that Samantha Power is coming here to the border from the Polish side. 1.00

00:24:37.000 Let her come to the border from Ukrainian side and see that. Britain guaranteed our security

00:24:42.920 under Budapest memorandum. So you're coming to Poland. You're not coming to Kiev, Prime Minister.

00:24:47.720 You're not coming to Lviv because you are afraid, because NATO is not willing to defend, because NATO is

00:24:54.760 afraid of the World War Three, but it is already started. And these are Ukrainian children who are there

00:24:59.800 taking the heat. You're talking about more sanctions, Prime Minister, but Roman Abramovich is not sanctioned.

00:25:05.640 He's in London. His children are not in the bombardments. His children are there in London.

00:25:12.600 Putin's children are in Netherlands, in Germany, in mansions. Where are all these mansions seized?

00:25:20.040 I don't see that. I see that my family members, that my team members are saying that we are crying.

00:25:27.160 We don't care what to rob. This is what is happening, Prime Minister. Incredibly powerful moment at Boris Johnson's

00:25:35.000 press conference in Poland. That's what the tweet says. So that one video I showed you had nearly

00:25:39.960 nine million views on Twitter alone. Very powerful. Who was that woman? Obviously a reporter. Since it 0.61

00:25:46.840 was at a press conference, those are for reporters. It was this lady here, just had a chance to ask a

00:25:53.640 question to Boris Johnson. Her name is Daria Kalinyak. So who's she a reporter with? You ever heard her

00:26:00.600 before? Well, well, here's her Twitter biography. Her banner says, Stop Putin-Hitler now. NATO no-fly zone over Ukraine.

00:26:10.520 So maybe she's not actually a reporter then, is she? Even though she was asking questions at a press

00:26:17.160 conference like a reporter and was widely described as a reporter. Her Twitter bio has a link to this,

00:26:26.040 the Anti-Corruption Action Center. She's the executive director of the place. So it's a lobby group.

00:26:33.880 And look at the website under funding. The number one source of her funding is the US government. 0.63

00:26:42.600 And the number two source is European Union governments. Now, I'm not a detective. I just

00:26:47.000 clicked on a few links. That was not a reporter. That was a US funded activist pressing Boris Johnson

00:26:56.280 of NATO to declare World War Three or something. What on earth is going on here?

00:27:00.600 I'm uncomfortable with all this. It feels like that old movie, Wag the Dog. I don't deny there is a real war.

00:27:07.720 And I don't deny that Putin is a malign force. I wrote about it in two of my books.

00:27:12.280 But you'll forgive me if I don't sign on to World War Three with old generals who missed the action

00:27:19.880 and old diplomats with personal grudges. And I think I've learned to be skeptical of political leaders

00:27:25.960 who can immediately change into anything, like a chameleon, depending what script is put in front

00:27:32.440 of them. People who can be anything to anyone. Actors who will read any script in front of them,

00:27:39.160 any teleprompter. We Canadians know a bit about that, don't we?

00:27:43.400 By the way, I have accepted a staff appointment with a promotion.

00:27:47.640 Captain Papineau is leaving us. But we hope not for long.

00:27:57.640 I have no idea I was so bound by ties of affection to the regiment until I came to leave it.

00:28:09.560 Charlie, you take care of these guys.

00:28:11.480 I will. And you watch out for yourself.

00:28:13.800 No, I shall.

00:28:18.360 Yeah, I'm rooting for Ukraine, but I wouldn't want any Canadians to fight and die there. 0.99

00:28:24.280 Or to start World War Three. Stay with us for more. 1.00

00:28:41.480 How are you getting scumbags? 1.00

00:28:44.680 Absolute scum. Shame on you! 1.00

00:28:54.760 Shame on you! 1.00

00:28:59.320 A woman that has been hauled back across the police lines,

00:29:03.160 there's a handbag, and lots of people filming, which we've seen right throughout

00:29:07.160 those 23 days, haven't we?

00:29:08.440 Yeah, you can see a man just falling to the ground.

00:29:11.000 Joining us now via Skype from Australia is our chief correspondent there, Avi Yamini.

00:29:16.680 Avi, great to see you. Tell us what you can. I know you're not in New Zealand, but of course,

00:29:22.120 Australia is the closest country to New Zealand. You know a lot about New Zealand's prime minister,

00:29:26.920 the extreme authoritarian Jacinda Ardern. Can you give us a little background on this protest

00:29:33.400 at the capital? Because I know that New Zealanders are finally waking up. They have this

00:29:37.080 high court ruling against the mandate. So I felt like there was a flicker of hope. What just happened?

00:29:44.200 Yeah, Ezra. So actually, they're inspired by you guys in Canada. That is still the convoy

00:29:50.280 to the capital that are camped outside parliament. And yeah, it would seem as if

00:29:58.280 Ardern, the prime minister of New Zealand has been inspired by Trudeau. And I think she's also using

00:30:04.600 the cover of what's happening in Ukraine, between Russia and Ukraine at the moment to distract.

00:30:10.840 So nobody notices while she's pointing the finger at Putin. She's busy knocking out, you know,

00:30:17.960 senior citizens who are daring to voice their opposition to these mandates.

00:30:24.120 So is there some sort of martial law in New Zealand? Is there some heightened

00:30:29.480 emergency status or was this just police deciding they were going to thump a few skulls?

00:30:34.360 I think that this is the enforcement against the convoy there where it's been ongoing,

00:30:42.280 you know, even since you guys, when the Canadians' convoy kind of packed up,

00:30:50.520 they kept going in New Zealand. So they've had a few confrontations there. And it seems like

00:30:55.720 they're growing there as well with a large group of the indigenous, the Maori community,

00:31:03.800 which have gotten involved as well. So I think in New Zealand, there is a big shift because people

00:31:10.840 are waking up to the idea that New Zealand has been, if not the place most on our planet that has

00:31:21.800 enforced the COVID restrictions to the highest degree, you know, it's still impossible to get

00:31:27.640 into New Zealand. They're starting to lift them slowly. But I think people in New Zealand are starting

00:31:33.320 to recognise that they've been through all of this in the last two years. And now they're being told,

00:31:38.840 even when they've been good little citizens that have followed every single rule, now the virus is

00:31:46.520 arriving because even with all of that, it still manages to get in. And so they've realised that

00:31:55.000 now they've lost their jobs for something that just makes no more sense to them anymore.

00:32:00.440 Yeah, that was the one country in the world where they tried to have the zero COVID approach,

00:32:05.080 not a single case. And I guess theoretically, I mean, New Zealand is quite remote,

00:32:10.200 but you would have to have a 100 percent seal that place off. And I understand that New Zealand's 1.00

00:32:18.200 actually setting records for the number of cases. You just can't stop it. I think it's powerful when

00:32:23.320 you mention that the Maoris are against it because Jacinda Ardern is nothing if not woke. So, I mean,

00:32:30.440 she's a woman, she's a socialist. She has all these cards she can play, but she can't really play the 0.77

00:32:37.160 cards when it's a group of Maori folks, the indigenous folks of New Zealand. I find that

00:32:42.760 very interesting. I also think it's interesting that you say they're inspired by Canada. I know

00:32:47.880 the same thing happened in Canberra, the capital of Australia, right? There was a convoy there too.

00:32:53.880 Absolutely. And there's still a little thing there and they have a big, I believe, a big protest.

00:32:59.800 They've had one of the largest protests in the country. Well, certainly in our capital and

00:33:04.760 outside parliament in history, but they have another one planned for next month. There's

00:33:09.240 still a small group that have stayed there, even as they've been kicked out of campsite to campsite.

00:33:16.680 So there is still something happening here. But it's important to know that in New Zealand,

00:33:22.040 Jacinda Ardern was quite popular, very popular, even within the Maori community. And I think

00:33:27.960 the silver lining to COVID or one of them from the last two years is it's woken up a lot of these

00:33:35.400 communities to the woke ideology and to wokeism and to people like Jacinda Ardern and to expose how

00:33:42.920 dangerous they really can be. Because I even noticed here in Australia, we have a large Maori community 1.00

00:33:49.320 here. And one of the things that I noticed early on was how many of them were at our protests. And

00:33:56.440 were talking to me about, oh my gosh, I can't believe that my brothers, sisters, my cousins in

00:34:01.720 New Zealand don't get it yet. And now we're slowly seeing that shift. And unfortunately, I think we'll

00:34:10.360 see still a bit more to come in New Zealand. I don't think it's over yet, but we hope for them,

00:34:18.600 for their sake.

00:34:19.320 And how are things in Australia? You're in the most

00:34:22.440 lockdown scene in Australia, Melbourne, which is the big city in the state of Victoria.

00:34:28.120 I've learned a lot about Australia from you. Of course, just an atrocious

00:34:35.960 head of Victoria, Dan Andrews is his name. It didn't surprise me to learn that there was net

00:34:41.480 out migration from Victoria, the same way there's been people in America moving out of California,

00:34:47.400 New York, to Texas and Florida, away from the lockdown states to the free states.

00:34:53.800 Tell me how things are in Australia now. Has Dan Andrews of Victoria taken his foot off of people's

00:35:00.200 neck? Has the prime minister gotten more lenient? Or, I mean, I remember they crushed the tennis

00:35:08.600 player, Djokovic, who came in lawfully on Vax. It was a last spasm of madness. What's it like today?

00:35:15.480 Well, today we still have all these mandates in place, but it's certainly you've got to remember

00:35:21.560 it's an election year here and nowhere in the world. I think at this point, maybe you can argue

00:35:27.880 during the US elections, while there was still a large part of the population that were very nervous

00:35:34.040 of the virus, that that may have supported the most popular president in history. But I think here,

00:35:42.200 it's important to know it is an election year. And if you look at polling, lockdowns and restrictions,

00:35:47.480 they don't poll well. So I think everyone's kind of loosening up a little bit, but we still certainly

00:35:53.400 have mandates. I don't know why people are running away. We just lit up the town in the Ukrainian flag

00:35:59.800 colours. We are such a good people here in Melbourne, so virtuous. So I don't know why anyone would want to

00:36:06.440 leave such a place. At the end of the day, I didn't see, if you watched the footage of how Putin was

00:36:15.160 treating their anti-war protesters, and no matter which side you stand in this debate, but the way

00:36:21.800 he treated his anti-war protesters was nothing like what we saw here in Melbourne or there in Ottawa.

00:36:28.360 So and what we're seeing today in New Zealand, I think it's important to note because we pretend to be the

00:36:34.200 good guys all the time. But I think COVID has exposed our governments at least for the hypocrites that they 0.91

00:36:41.800 absolutely are. Yeah, I think you're right. I haven't seen Putin deploy riot horses against peaceful 0.95

00:36:48.840 protesters in Moscow. I've seen that done by Trudeau in Ottawa. Literally today, Tamara Litch, one of the

00:36:56.440 organizers of the trucker convoy, is trying for the second time to get bail. She's been held in

00:37:01.800 prison for almost two weeks. Peaceful protesters, as she said, hold the line, two weeks in prison.

00:37:08.440 I don't know. I think it's a little bit hard for countries like Australia, New Zealand and Canada

00:37:13.640 to take the moral high ground now. And you see that. I mean, the Russian embassy, the China,

00:37:19.240 the Chinese embassy, they're sort of mocking the lockdowns in the West, and they were mocking Trudeau.

00:37:24.040 And fair enough. I mean, obviously, I don't think Canada is as bad as China. It's not,

00:37:28.920 or as bad as Russia. But it's a little bit tough to play morally righteous when you've just shown 0.77

00:37:34.280 how brutal you can be against your peaceful protesters. Well, Avi, keep it up down there.

00:37:38.040 Keep an eye peeled on New Zealand. I know it's a whole different place. It's actually hours away

00:37:42.440 by plane, even. But keep us posted on that because Jacinda Ardern is a real menace. 1.00

00:37:47.880 We have a more comprehensive report coming out today, rebelnews.com.au,

00:37:52.760 for people to follow. All right. We'll make sure to take a look at that. Avi Amini,

00:37:56.360 great to see you. Thanks for your time. Thank you, Ezra.

00:37:59.080 There you have it. Our chief Australian correspondent. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.

00:38:03.480 Hey, welcome back. Your viewer feedback. Trish DeBoer says,

00:38:18.840 what's going on with Tamara Lich? Well, thank you for asking. I'm answering you at just before four

00:38:25.960 o'clock p.m., and there is no result in her bail review. So just a quick recap for those who might

00:38:34.280 not know what we're talking about. Tamara Lich is the Métis woman from Medicine Hat, Alberta,

00:38:38.600 who really got the excitement building for the trucker convoy. She's the one who created the first

00:38:44.120 GoFundMe account. She's not a trucker herself, but she really was its encourager along the way.

00:38:49.960 She was arrested on the streets at night in Ottawa, thrown in jail, and charged with inciting mischief

00:39:00.920 because she said, hold the line, which is just like a generic saying. That was called inciting

00:39:07.320 mischief. And she was denied bail two weeks ago by a judge who had campaigned for the Liberal Party

00:39:14.600 of Canada in a recent election. Trudeau stumped for her. So it was just a shocking. Have you ever

00:39:20.840 heard of someone being denied bail for the crime of inciting mischief? Not even for committing

00:39:25.560 mischief, just encouraging others. Murderers get bail. So today, literally today, was her appeal of that.

00:39:33.800 And as of 20 minutes ago when I last checked, the results of that appeal were not yet known. They

00:39:40.280 might not be known until tomorrow. The judge isn't ruled is what I mean. Incredibly, Tamera Litch was 1.00

00:39:45.320 brought into the courtroom in shackles, in ankle shackles and handcuffs as if she were a murderer.

00:39:56.840 She's a political prisoner. It is a disgrace to the justice system that she's in prison still. 1.00

00:40:03.000 That's the update. Someone with the nickname 250 Sabres says,

00:40:08.120 Jacinda Ardern is a crazy communist and has been since she was in her late teens. 1.00

00:40:12.680 She even wore a communist uniform. It was also unbelievable and sick. Just an authoritarian 0.99

00:40:17.160 woman with no path for her country. I know a little bit about her and she indeed was the president of the 0.88

00:40:22.120 Socialist International. She really is a communist. And I know you're not saying that as an insult,

00:40:27.080 but rather as a description. I think she is doing atrocious things. And I don't know what it is

00:40:33.800 about commonwealth countries, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. We have had terrible police and terrible

00:40:41.880 authoritarianism put upon us by our leaders. I think Jacinda Ardern has been atrocious. But what's the

00:40:49.880 excuse for Scott Morrison, the prime minister of Australia, or the provincial premiers of Canada,

00:40:55.480 some of whom actually call themselves conservative? I think there's something wrong in our society.

00:41:00.360 There's been no checks and balances, although I'll give New Zealand credit for this.

00:41:03.720 Their high court struck down the mandates. Our Supreme Court has not.

00:41:08.680 Someone with the nickname Church says this cannot be done until the politicians, unionized bureaucrats,

00:41:14.200 and cops are publicly held to account for their blatant intentional abuse of individual rights for

00:41:20.280 the last two years. Well, I don't know how you're going to get that kind of system-wide

00:41:23.800 accountability. Because what are you going to do? Replace one party with another one? Like,

00:41:27.080 take the example of the government of Alberta. Jason Kenney, who's imprisoning a Christian pastor

00:41:32.920 right now, Arthur Pawlowski. What are you going to do? You're going to replace him with

00:41:37.000 the NDP? How about in Ontario? You're going to replace Doug Ford with the Liberal Party

00:41:41.640 that's even worse? The entire system was proved rotten. The courts, the media, academia,

00:41:48.920 colleges of physicians and surgeons, every police force you can name. I don't even know how you

00:41:54.120 replace one crooked set with another. I don't even know what to do.

00:41:58.840 My friends, that's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel

00:42:02.520 World Headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom. And let me leave you with

00:42:06.200 a video of the day. Our friend Efrain Monsanto, who met with Ukrainian supporters in Toronto who believe

00:42:13.160 in sanctioning Russian oil. Here's his video. See you later.

00:42:17.320 Hey, I'm Efrain Monsanto, a video journalist covering protests for Rebel News. This past

00:42:21.480 weekend, on my way to Toronto's weekly freedom rally that takes place at Queens Park every Saturday,

00:42:26.200 I came across a large crowd of Canadian Ukrainians and supporters outside the U.S. consulate.

00:42:31.640 Canada has the highest Ukrainian population outside of their own country in Russia, with over 1.3

00:42:36.440 million across the nation. That's why when Putin invaded Ukraine last week,

00:42:40.520 it personally affected the families of many Canadians. Canada takes over $600 million of

00:42:47.080 Russian oil every single year, but yet we suppress our own ethical oil coming from the West through

00:42:52.200 cancellation of pipelines, the federal carbon tax, and more. Even America has been the same.

00:42:58.120 In 2021, President Joe Biden canceled the Keystone XL pipeline, increasing their reliance on Russian oil.

00:43:04.120 Sign our petition at buildkeystonexl.com. If you agree that it's in both our countries' interests

00:43:08.840 to build a pipeline and not rely on foreign influence for our energy demands.

00:43:13.960 I asked the protesters what their thoughts were on Putin's vision of Ukraine, what can Canada do more,

00:43:19.480 and should we stop importing Russian oil as part of our sanctions? Take a listen.

00:43:24.440 So we are trying to get more involvement of the U.S. government into the Ukrainian situation,

00:43:32.040 because nothing is happening. People are just talking and we need real help from the world,

00:43:37.240 because our guys are dying there and no one is helping us. So we are feeling a little bit betrayed.

00:43:43.000 So we are trying to make the U.S. government to do something and support us in this fight

00:43:47.800 for the peace in the whole world. It's not just about Ukraine, it's about the whole world,

00:43:52.520 peace in the whole world.

00:43:54.200 Stop the war! Stop the war! Stop the war! Stop the war! 0.79

00:43:59.480 I love the airplane and the Russian soldier is killed for Ukrainian people, civil people. 1.00

00:44:04.920 This bombing has a shelter, bombing is a hospital. This bombing is killed as a people. 0.99

00:44:11.960 Putin will. Slava Ukraine. Slava Nazis. Smert war. 0.68

00:44:14.840 We are fighting for the freedom, fighting for the freedom of Europe, for democracy,

00:44:20.280 and I believe we will win, and we are here to support our country, our people, our military,

00:44:26.120 our president, and everybody right now in Ukraine who suffer from Russian aggression,

00:44:31.960 from the war that they launched against us.

00:44:37.240 For us, it's very, very important because we, so we, my wife and I, we're Russian citizens,

00:44:41.480 and we're against this war, and we're standing with Ukraine today.

00:44:45.080 We're very nervous for our families. They live in Odessa, which is occupied by Russian warriors now. 1.00

00:44:53.720 And what's your message to Putin if anyone from Russia is watching us?

00:44:59.960 Canada should stop importing Russian oil?

00:45:02.840 Exactly. Stop Russian oil, stop Russian Swift, stop Russian media, stop Russian product, everything.

00:45:09.320 Stop Russia. Kill it is Russian imperial. 0.99

00:45:14.280 Do you think Canada should stop importing Russian oil into the country?

00:45:17.560 Uh, they wish, they should, like, like, absolute embargo. No, um, like, like, do not buy gas or oil

00:45:25.480 from Russia. That's just, that's just, just, just a no-no. Any products. I very much supported that they

00:45:30.360 removed vodka, Russian vodka from, from LCBO.

00:45:33.320 Yeah, for sure. I, I'm totally supporting this because I think, uh, you know, it's the biggest

00:45:39.080 income of Russian Federation from oil and gas. So I think we should stop it. And, uh, yeah, of course,

00:45:45.400 uh, people will need to make sacrifices. It will affect everybody. But, you know,

00:45:50.680 you know, we are standing for freedom of the world right now. And, uh, Ukrainian people fighting,

00:45:57.240 uh, um, outgunned, outmanned. And we are fiercely defending our country, our major cities. And, uh,

00:46:06.200 right now we are, uh, we are only ones who are battling the, uh, this Nazi regime in Russia.

00:46:13.400 I feel that there should be, that more can be done. Uh, but, um, one thing that Ukraine needs,

00:46:22.040 needs the most is, of course, just help in terms of lethal weapons. I mean, more of that,

00:46:25.800 you know, uh, and honestly, I also feel that, uh, Canada should not forget about Russian people.

00:46:31.640 This is not our, this is not our war. And I hope, I hope that one day Canada will also support

00:46:37.160 Russian people who will be immigrating like crazy from their country because of this, because they did not 1.00

00:46:42.600 choose this war because they did not ever elect Putin. Do you think Canada should stop importing all

00:46:47.080 Russian oil into the country? Uh, yes, I think yes. Putin's support is about one third. So it's a

00:46:55.000 significant, it's a significant minority, right? I mean, I mean, it's still a lot of people, but so

00:46:59.400 most people actually, actually not supporting him. Uh, it's just that because we're living under

00:47:04.920 dictatorship, people are oppressed, people are afraid to talk, people are preferred to stay,

00:47:09.640 stay away. But we have to understand that there's strong movement and democratic movement in Russia

00:47:14.440 and Russians like very, very much need the need support of Canada. And what's your message to

00:47:19.640 Ukrainians who might be watching this? Stop the war and hang in there. What's your message to other 0.99

00:47:26.680 Russians like you who are afraid to speak out? What's your message to them? Uh, I think, I think that at 0.70

00:47:31.400 this point in Russia, the most important thing is not to be, not to be afraid to talk, to talk,

00:47:37.080 to speak. You don't even have to walk on the street in order to make, to make, to make a statement.

00:47:42.680 These days in Russia, even if you post on social media, a simple phrase, no war, that makes a lot

00:47:48.760 of difference. We're seeing a massive movement in that regard. Any small action, do not disregard it.

00:47:55.000 You know, small action can lead to big changes. Russians don't believe it, but it's certainly true. 1.00

00:47:59.720 And I think Ukrainians are showing that very much.

00:48:13.320 You know, implement our powers that always tä fit into the world.

00:48:21.000 You know, and we provide it to those people, our plans that everybody wants you together.

00:48:27.000 You have confidence in more than any other things. You have confidence in God.

00:48:33.300 I believe God, and even if you step to step on the world, then I learn to bless you up to stay.

00:48:38.240 Our

00:49:08.240 The end of the day...

00:49:13.240 Ukraine!

00:49:14.240 Russia!

00:49:15.240 Russia!

00:49:16.240 Russia!

00:49:17.240 Russia!

00:49:18.240 Ukraine!

00:49:19.240 Putin! 1.00

00:49:20.240 Fuck! 1.00

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Rebel News Podcast - March 03, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Should Canada go to war in Ukraine？ Against Russia？ Should we punish Russian-Canadians in some way？

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