Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Ten questions about vaccine passports — and a new petition against them

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels, you know, we did some streeters, you know what that is, man on the street interviews

00:00:04.320 about vaccine passports, and I thought it was interesting. So I put my thinking cap on and I

00:00:09.600 came up with 10 questions that I think we should ask anyone on the street or in public office

00:00:15.840 about vaccine passports, 10 basic who, what, where, why, when questions. And that's my show today.

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00:00:57.720 Tonight, I have 10 questions about vaccine passports and a new petition against them.

00:01:10.360 It's July 19th and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:13.440 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:19.240 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:23.300 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:28.200 right to do so.

00:01:34.000 Here's the website of the American Academy of Family Physicians, about as mainstream as you get.

00:01:39.500 And look at this study in their journal, published just a couple months ago,

00:01:44.480 Four Reasons for COVID-19 Vaccine Hesitancy Among Healthcare Workers and Ways to Counter Them.

00:01:52.660 Isn't that a funny little story? People in the healthcare business, people closest to the pandemic

00:01:57.700 in real life, they don't want the vaccines. They cite lots of stats in this journal entry

00:02:03.680 from different countries showing that this is true. Isn't that odd?

00:02:07.840 That would be like a waiter refusing to eat at their own restaurant. I just keep thinking of

00:02:14.020 that analogy. Seems strange to me. This Harvard study says only 37.5% of nursing home staff have

00:02:23.380 chosen to get vaccinated. Wow. I have a theory. My theory is that they see that the virus is being

00:02:30.780 blamed for the deaths of some very old, very sick people. Remember the average age of death is over

00:02:36.020 80. The average deceased has three or more serious underlying conditions. I think the staff remember

00:02:43.000 that people died before the pandemic and it was called dying of old age. And now they're saying,

00:02:49.460 okay, you're just reclassifying those deaths. I'm not going to take an experimental drug. That's my

00:02:54.180 theory. The AAFP cites four pretty good reasons for vaccine hesitancy. Remember, these guys are

00:03:01.980 four vaccines to try to understand why no one's taking them. The first is concerns about safety

00:03:07.780 and efficacy as in, will the vaccine actually make you sick and will it actually protect you from

00:03:13.460 getting the virus? That's a live question in that in the UK in particular, cases are surging amongst

00:03:19.800 people who got the jab. Same in Israel. In the UK, there are Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who first of all

00:03:26.440 actually got sick from the virus and recovered and then had two jabs. Well, now he's quarantining again

00:03:32.180 because he thinks he might have caught it again from his health minister who also had two jabs.

00:03:38.340 It's confusing. Look at this. I don't know if you saw this news. A bunch of Texas Democrats who all had

00:03:44.480 two jabs flew on a private jet to Washington as some sort of political protest. Now it turns out that

00:03:50.760 some of them got sick too with coronavirus again. None of them are getting very sick, but it does sort of

00:03:55.920 raise the question. Do these vaccines work? And even if they don't work, is that the sign of a big

00:04:02.060 problem? Since for the majority of people, it's actually not much worse than getting a cold or a

00:04:06.980 flu. I'm not sure who to trust. Here's Toronto's creepy mayor saying the vaccines are completely safe

00:04:14.460 and effective. But that's not actually what the companies themselves say. And it's not what the FDA

00:04:20.020 says. These drugs are not approved. They're just authorized for emergency use. And there are all sorts of

00:04:25.660 publicly known side effects. Why is he lying here? If you've received your first or second dose of

00:04:31.360 vaccine, keep scrolling.

00:04:33.060 But if you haven't received your vaccine, your first or your second dose, what are you waiting for?

00:04:39.820 It's proven to be safe and effective and will help put this pandemic behind us. And I promise,

00:04:45.640 if you go and get your first and your second vaccine, I'll stop doing TikToks on COVID-19.

00:04:51.880 I don't get it. I suppose listening to that goofy guy is persuasive to some people. But if you're

00:04:57.000 saying manifestly untrue things, easily checkable falsehoods about these vaccines being completely

00:05:03.000 safe and completely tested and effective, don't you think that's going to actually raise more alarm

00:05:07.660 bells? Why not just tell the truth? These vaccines may well be safe, but it's just not true that

00:05:13.520 they're perfectly safe. So why say so? I mean, all these vaccines are very good for the vaccine

00:05:21.120 tycoons. I see the president of Moderna, which until these vaccines never actually sold a product 0.69

00:05:27.200 before in their entire company history. I see he's now worth $5 billion himself. So I know why he wants

00:05:33.020 to make this thing a perpetual thing. But if the vaccines don't really work that well, and if,

00:05:39.060 you know, and that's not really a crisis for anyone other than narrow, vulnerable groups, if you don't

00:05:46.120 really need them, do we have a real crisis? Do we have an emergency? Do we have a real problem? Well,

00:05:51.460 Trudeau thinks we do. It sounds like he's bought booster shots for this year and for next year and

00:05:59.060 the next year and the next year. Seriously, for four years. Look at this. While more and more Canadians are 0.82

00:06:05.760 getting vaccinated right now, it's also important to plan ahead for the future. We've reached an

00:06:12.140 agreement with Pfizer for 35 million booster doses for next year and 30 million in the year after.

00:06:20.760 This deal includes options to add 30 million doses in both 2022 and 2023 and an option for 60 million

00:06:29.160 doses in 2024. Pfizer has been a solid partner for Canada in this fight against COVID-19 and we're happy

00:06:37.760 to be one of the first countries to secure an agreement with them going forward. These boosters

00:06:43.440 will be the latest version of the Pfizer vaccine based on research and testing. They will help us

00:06:49.620 keep the virus under control. And the work doesn't end there either. We're on ongoing discussions with

00:06:55.920 other vaccine manufacturers about their plans for booster shots too.

00:07:00.020 My God. Well, I know he's going to be demanding we use up all those booster shots. He just paid

00:07:04.320 how many billions of dollars for. But back to that AAFP study, the family physicians. Nurses won't take

00:07:10.420 the vaccine for four reasons, they say. Safety and efficacy concerns. Preference for physiological

00:07:17.160 immunity, as in our own body's natural defenses. And this next one, distrust in government and health

00:07:25.420 organizations. That's quite something. We all distrust and hate the government. But I think you probably have to

00:07:31.200 work for a big health organization to really realize it's a kind of government too. In the UK, they have

00:07:36.940 fetishized their National Health Service, their Medicare, even more than we have done here in Canada. From the

00:07:42.740 outside, they're all saints. But it sounds like people who work on the inside of health organizations, on the

00:07:48.440 inside of hospitals, like AFP members, they don't trust their own health bureaucracies any more than we trust

00:07:54.720 politicians. I mean, fair enough. Half of Anthony Fauci's own staff won't take the jab.

00:07:59.520 OK, this this question, I'm going to go to Dr. Fauci, Dr. Marks and Dr. Lewinsky. What percentage of the

00:08:06.680 employees in your institute, your center or your agency of your employees has been vaccinated?

00:08:14.300 You know, I'm not 100 percent sure, Senator, but I think it's probably a little bit more than half,

00:08:25.580 probably around 60 percent. And the fourth reason the AAFP has is autonomy and personal freedom. Here's

00:08:31.840 how they phrase it, which is a little weird. Healthcare workers and rural Americans report that a sense of

00:08:37.120 personal freedom informs their attitudes towards the COVID-19 vaccines. That rural part is a little

00:08:42.820 unusual. I would think that people in the cities care about their freedoms, too. I do. Well, the

00:08:48.560 percentage of people who have taken the vaccine has pretty much peaked. Some places are doing weird

00:08:54.120 things like Alberta is offering huge cash prizes if you take the jab in a lottery. I think that's a

00:09:02.080 pretty strange disease with a pretty odd medicine that you have to bribe people to take their medicine.

00:09:09.100 I just think that's odd. I'm not sure if it's ethical either. Sure, there's a lot of pressure

00:09:14.480 on poor people to do something they might not want to otherwise. It's like that U.S. judge who said to

00:09:20.500 a convicted criminal, take the jab and have a one-year sentence or don't take the jab and have a five-year

00:09:27.180 sentence. Is that an ethical way to make someone take medicine under duress like that?

00:09:32.600 Come in, please. Court Richard Fry tells me he started using the COVID-19 vaccine as a term of

00:09:40.000 probation in his courtroom last week, but not for everyone. He ordered it three times out of 20

00:09:47.220 different sentencing hearings. I did talk to one of those three offenders today, and he tells me

00:09:52.460 he feels very strongly about this and feels that this order violates his civil rights.

00:09:58.400 One week to the day. The case was about a gun charge and some drugs. Franklin County criminal

00:10:06.840 offender Sylvan Latham tells me he stood before Common Police Court Judge Richard Fry. I know

00:10:13.240 Judge Fry's reputation. I know he's known for giving people max time, jail time, all that. I don't want

00:10:18.700 to go to jail. I don't want to have five years probation. Latham thought his attorney struck a deal

00:10:24.000 with prosecutors to three years probation. But during his sentencing hearing. I was stressed

00:10:29.560 out right then. I didn't know what to do. I was kind of, I was very put, very myself put

00:10:33.480 on the spot. Latham said the judge told him he'd give him the five-year max unless he got

00:10:39.440 a COVID-19 vaccine. With the shot, Latham said his probation would be cut down considerably

00:10:46.120 to just one year. Even worse is the weird bribing in Toronto where children are allowed to consent

00:10:52.280 without their parents present. Children as young as 12. And the city was giving away free ice cream

00:10:58.340 to kids who did. Well, look, as Canada slowly opens up, Ontario restaurants were open for the first time

00:11:04.600 in months this weekend. And as things normalize and as the disease naturally wanes during the

00:11:11.100 summertime, as all flus do, the sky is falling. Lockdownists need a way to keep the feeling of crisis

00:11:17.880 going. So they're focusing on vaccine passports, mandatory requirements to prove that you've been

00:11:23.740 jabbed or you'll be banned from areas of your life you once enjoyed. Manitoba now has its vaccine 0.51

00:11:29.620 identity cards. Quebec has announced its decision to have QR codes. Trudeau now has two-tiered travel

00:11:36.340 rules depending on your vaccine status. Those are all little test drives for vaccine passports.

00:11:41.820 And more importantly, none of them have banned vaccine passports in the private sector. Imagine if both

00:11:46.680 WestJet and Air Canada announced vaccine passports on the same day, with lots of nodding and winking

00:11:52.560 from Trudeau to do it. It wasn't forced on them, they'd say. It's not a government law, they'd say.

00:11:58.040 But what if they both decided to do it at the same time? And you can't really fly in this big country

00:12:03.320 of ours, can you? Now, flying is a luxury for most people. But what about regular public transit? Buses,

00:12:09.860 subways, trains, taxis? Easy to see how they would do the same. Uber has a very harsh mask mandate.

00:12:16.420 I don't doubt they'll bring in a vax passport too. Seneca College here in Toronto has brought in vax

00:12:21.860 rules for all students. And who's going to stop them? No one. Why would they? No one has stopped

00:12:26.540 any of this so far. Not governments, not opposition parties, not courts, not the media. In fact,

00:12:31.900 the media has been egging it on. A gym called Good Life simply announced that they're not going to

00:12:35.980 invade their members' privacy. They're not going to grill their members about private health stuff.

00:12:41.340 It's not going to vax passport them. And immediately, the government comedians at Trudeau's

00:12:47.120 CBC state broadcaster jumped on them, saying, Good Life Fitness will not require proof of vaccination 0.97

00:12:53.220 because it's not like it's their job to give a crap about your health. So that's a giant government 0.96

00:12:59.680 propaganda agency mocking a private company for, you know, respecting privacy rights and

00:13:04.740 non-discrimination. By the way, the CBC wants you and me to be locked down and vax-passported,

00:13:10.100 but their own CBC president commutes weekly from her home in New York City to her job in Canada.

00:13:15.180 It's a scandal that the CBC's president, Catherine Tate, lives in America to begin with. What's she 0.62

00:13:20.500 doing? But she commutes weekly without quarantining while demanding that the little people walk down. 1.00

00:13:26.600 Tells you all you need to know, doesn't it?

00:13:27.880 And on the weekend, the CBC was in full public relations mode for a website set up by some odd

00:13:34.600 lawyer listing every company he could find that's going to implement a vaccine passport

00:13:39.460 on their staff or customers. The CBC does this all the time with their pet projects. They give a

00:13:45.180 million dollars in free publicity to some homemade website or petition or GoFundMe that their friends

00:13:50.780 put up. In this case, some lockdown vigilante who wants to enforce vax passports on the world 0.98

00:13:56.800 and thinks that every shopkeeper and gym owner and waiter should be able to ask you about your

00:14:01.680 private health information and discriminate against you if you answer it wrong. I think this

00:14:07.300 is the next big battle. You've been softened up for a year by being forced to wear masks, which is the

00:14:12.580 most unhuman, anti-human thing to do. And now some people love wearing masks. Well, now let's see

00:14:19.440 who goes the next step of the way. Over the weekend, we published a few video streeters, as they're

00:14:24.380 called. Just people on the street in Toronto and Montreal talking about vax passports. Let me show

00:14:30.940 you a bit from each video. Here's our newest on-air talent, our intern Dakota Christensen. Take a look

00:14:37.500 at this. Would you be in favor of government, you know, mandated vaccination, mandatory vaccination

00:14:42.300 for people? Absolutely. I feel like there's so much misinformation out there right now and

00:14:48.000 people are going to make their wrong decisions. And it's a public health issue, right? So I feel like

00:14:54.560 unless you have a legitimate medical reason not to, I think you should be obligated to get a vaccine for

00:14:59.840 the good of your fellow man, you know? I think it's just another form of discrimination. I don't think

00:15:03.760 people really, you know, seeing what's the long-term effects of that would be. Because I mean, at the end of

00:15:08.880 the day, if you're going to deny people the right to work, the right to shop, you know, and feed themselves and

00:15:14.000 feed their families, you know, we're descending into chaos. Like, you don't even see it yet.

00:15:18.160 Yeah, if I'm going in a plane, I want to know who is vaccinated and who is not. I don't want to say,

00:15:23.680 like, okay, let's say there are 50 people. I want to hear that, okay, 49 are vaccinated. Only one

00:15:29.600 person is not vaccinated. And the person who is not vaccinated is sitting 10 feet from everyone else.

00:15:36.480 So I'm good with that. So that's from Toronto. And here's Alexa Lavoie in Montreal.

00:15:41.440 I don't want to have to do something if I don't want to, but then now I'm stuck in this thing where even if I don't want to, I want to so that I can get back to real life.

00:15:56.960 It's because there's going to be a lot of repercussions, maybe dividing the society in two, vaccinated and non-vaccinated, and more divided than what we are already.

00:16:05.280 Like, I don't want to take the vaccine, but the fact that they force people to take the vaccine, they don't force people directly to say, yeah, you need to take the vaccine, but they do things like altruism.

00:16:19.280 Legos gotta go.

00:16:21.280 Some excellent answers and some terrifying answers. Some people really do want to live in chains, or maybe they think others will be in chains. They'll still be free.

00:16:29.280 I sent a note to our team with some potential follow-up questions for the next time we do streeters about vaccine passports.

00:16:37.280 I'm just going to read them to you as I send them to this team. The first one's pretty basic in terms of questions. I got 10 of these.

00:16:43.280 Do you think people should have to prove they're vaccinated before they're allowed to do things in society?

00:16:48.280 Okay, it starts the conversation. Number two, if the answer is yes, let's see what that means.

00:16:54.280 Should proof of vaccination be needed to ride a bus, go into a store, eat at a restaurant, go to school, go to work, travel, rent an apartment?

00:17:03.280 Hmm. Let's really think this through. What should people who are excluded do? Where should they go?

00:17:11.280 Should we publicly shame people who aren't vaccinated? What if people can't take vaccines for a medical or another good reason?

00:17:22.280 Should people who have already recovered from COVID and who have a natural immunity, should they be forced to take vaccines too, just to get the passport?

00:17:32.280 Are there other diseases we should also grill people about, like, I don't know, AIDS? If not, what's the difference?

00:17:40.280 How about people who are alcoholics or really fat? Should we shame them too? Ban them from things?

00:17:49.280 If vaccines work, why are you worried about non-vaccinated people? And if they don't work, same question.

00:17:57.280 And lastly, COVID isn't even in the top ten list of reasons why people die in Canada in any given day.

00:18:03.280 Heart attacks, strokes, cancer, and those are all much more deadly, and all of them are connected in part to our health choices.

00:18:11.280 Diet, exercise. Should we have the ability to grill people about those private things too?

00:18:17.280 People have already been banned from school, from work, from dorms for not being vaxxed. 0.94

00:18:23.280 That's a vaxxed passport and everything but name.

00:18:26.280 I think this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

00:18:29.280 I've got five billion reasons to think so.

00:18:32.280 I want to tell you what we're going to do about it here at Rebel News.

00:18:35.280 First, we're going to keep telling the other side of the story from the freedom perspective, not the lockdownist big pharma government perspective.

00:18:45.280 Second, we're going to try to collect the biggest petition we've ever done, which would mean 200,000 names if we did it.

00:18:52.280 Can we get 200,000 names on a petition at novaxpassports.ca? Let's try.

00:19:00.280 And third, we're going to try to find a great test case to challenge the legality of these vaxxed passports from a privacy and human rights point of view.

00:19:09.280 So, number one, journalism. Number two, the petition. Number three, a legal challenge.

00:19:15.280 I want to find the best case, though, for that.

00:19:17.280 If you're interested in this, go to novaxpassports.ca and sign your name, and we'll keep you posted on what I believe will be the big struggle of 2021.

00:19:27.280 Thanks.

00:19:30.280 So about, I think this was a question asked before, there's about 12 people who are producing 65% of anti-vaccine misinformation on social media platforms.

00:19:49.280 All of them remain active on Facebook, despite some even being banned on other platforms, including Facebook, ones that Facebook owns.

00:19:57.280 Third, it's important to take faster action against harmful posts.

00:20:01.280 As you all know, information travels quite quickly on social media platforms.

00:20:05.280 Sometimes it's not accurate, and Facebook needs to move more quickly to remove harmful violative posts.

00:20:12.280 Posts that will be within their policies for removal often remain up for days.

00:20:16.280 If that's too long, the information spreads too quickly.

00:20:18.280 Finally, we have proposed they promote quality information sources in their feed algorithm.

00:20:24.280 Facebook has repeatedly shown that they have the levers to promote quality information.

00:20:28.280 We've seen them effectively do this in their algorithm over low quality information, and they've chosen not to use it in this case.

00:20:35.280 And that's certainly an area that would have an impact.

00:20:38.280 So these are certainly the proposals.

00:20:41.280 We engage with them regularly, and they certainly understand what our asks are.

00:20:45.280 That's Jen Psaki, the spokesman for Joe Biden, saying the quiet part out loud.

00:20:52.280 The U.S. federal government is now telling the big tech giants what are or aren't problematic ideas, not criminal ideas.

00:21:02.280 I believe there should be some regulation of the internet, in the same way there's some regulation of real life.

00:21:08.280 If you commit a terrorist act, if you utter a death threat, that could be a crime in cyberspace as much as it is on a telephone or in person.

00:21:17.280 But these aren't crimes. This is a call for censorship.

00:21:21.280 The modern town square is owned by a handful of oligarchs in Silicon Valley.

00:21:27.280 That makes it easy for censorship to be done at a stroke of a key on a keyboard.

00:21:33.280 It's like living in a company town if you're a minor, except for that company town is the entire world.

00:21:40.280 Well, Facebook is a leading censor, and we know this not only from our own experience at Rebel News,

00:21:48.280 but from talking to the Facebook whistleblower, you'll recall we interviewed him shortly after he left one of Facebook's censorship factories in Arizona,

00:21:59.280 a company called Cognizant that had hundreds of censors working around the clock, censoring not just American news,

00:22:07.280 but from their Phoenix headquarters, censoring the 2019 Canadian election.

00:22:13.280 That Facebook whistleblower, Ryan Hartwig, joins us now via Skype.

00:22:18.280 Ryan, nice to see you again.

00:22:20.280 It was a bombshell, your revelation, that Facebook actively censors politics,

00:22:26.280 but it doesn't even seem controversial anymore.

00:22:30.280 Everyone's sort of acknowledging it, including the White House.

00:22:33.280 Yeah, and that clip you saw with Jen Psaki is really shocking,

00:22:38.280 because she even admits that Facebook has the ability to promote certain quality content,

00:22:43.280 and that totally flies in the face of the original intentions of Section 230,

00:22:48.280 because they should only be able to restrict, you know, loot or, you know, content that's damaging, that's harmful.

00:22:55.280 And, of course, that definition of harmful is left to Facebook's imagination on how they define it.

00:23:00.280 And that, what she just said, that could be used in Trump's brand new lawsuit,

00:23:07.280 because his lawsuit argues that, you know, Facebook is receiving instructions from the White House.

00:23:13.280 And that's even clear, that's much more clear now.

00:23:16.280 You know, Jen mentioned, Jen Psaki mentioned proposals. 0.71

00:23:20.280 They have proposals for Facebook.

00:23:22.280 So, and just yesterday, she said that they're flagging the information for Facebook.

00:23:28.280 So, it's the difference between giving someone permission and instructing them to do so.

00:23:33.280 And it seems like the government is instructing Facebook to flag certain posts.

00:23:38.280 Yeah. I mean, you mentioned Section 230.

00:23:40.280 I think our viewers know that Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act,

00:23:44.280 it gives publishers immunity to take down obscene material.

00:23:49.280 But it's been used to give them immunity from any legal recourse.

00:23:54.280 But the whole idea was that they were a neutral platform, like a bulletin board on the wall,

00:23:59.280 that shouldn't be responsible for what people tack to it.

00:24:02.280 But when they're taking instructions, when they're boosting approved content,

00:24:08.280 and throttling bad content, like what you were doing as a Facebook censor,

00:24:13.280 I don't know how Section 230 can even give them any protection.

00:24:16.280 I want to talk about your new book because the timing couldn't be more perfect.

00:24:20.280 It's actually incredible.

00:24:22.280 The book is called Behind the Mask of Facebook.

00:24:26.280 Learn how to fight big tech censorship to protect free speech.

00:24:30.280 And the book is on pre-order now.

00:24:32.280 It'll be out in just about a month, August 17th.

00:24:36.280 I'm going to order my copy because I actually want to know how to fight big tech censorship,

00:24:42.280 not just as an intellectual exercise, but our company depends on it.

00:24:46.280 Tell me about the book.

00:24:48.280 Yeah, so the book is basically my analysis of all the policies that I studied at Facebook.

00:24:53.280 So I studied Facebook's internal policy documents for two years, nearly two years.

00:24:59.280 And so some of it's really deep analysis, which is good,

00:25:02.280 because we want to know the details, the juicy details.

00:25:05.280 But it's also fun.

00:25:06.280 So there's a chapter called, you know, Trump Humpers and Feminazis.

00:25:09.280 Facebook's slanted approach to bullying.

00:25:11.280 But it really just gives, you know, it's kind of that narrative of me.

00:25:15.280 I'm going to this job kind of naive about what I would experience.

00:25:20.280 And I grew up very religious.

00:25:21.280 And here I was exposed to the most shocking content in the world. 0.65

00:25:26.280 I had to see cartel videos, beheadings, child nudity, pornography, bestiality.

00:25:32.280 So, you know, that's one aspect of it.

00:25:35.280 The other aspect is, you know, on a global scale, Facebook is censoring this political content.

00:25:40.280 They're having us flag trends, including in the election in Canada with Jagmeet Singh and telling us to look for hate speech about Jagmeet Singh.

00:25:51.280 And so that's, yeah, that's the book behind the mask of Facebook.

00:25:54.280 My co-author, Kent Heckenlively, is a renowned author.

00:25:57.280 He co-authored with Judy Mikovits Plague of Corruption.

00:26:00.280 So, yeah, I'm super excited for the book.

00:26:02.280 I just really wanted to get the story out there.

00:26:04.280 And I hope it can be used in, you know, future lawsuits and battles against big tech.

00:26:09.280 Well, when you describe some of the horrific things that you, I think, properly censored, I mean, snuff videos or crimes,

00:26:17.280 I don't think there's anyone in the world who would oppose that.

00:26:20.280 But it's quite a journey from, you know, some of the grotesque and obscene things you described to proactively hunting for criticisms of Jagmeet Singh that are extra mean.

00:26:35.280 And, you know, I don't recommend meanness, but being mean, being offensive is actually the right, a right that a citizen has to respond to their rulers.

00:26:48.280 I mean, the whole idea of a democracy is we don't just have to be nice to our political leaders.

00:26:53.280 We can actually, frankly, we have the right to be rude to them to the point of a crime.

00:26:59.280 Again, we don't want death threats or anything like that.

00:27:01.280 I recall when you talked to us the first time, it was rather incredible to me that you and all the other Facebook censors in Arizona who were in charge of censoring the Canadian election,

00:27:15.280 you had a handbook that said what you could, what Canadians could or couldn't say.

00:27:21.280 And you were down there in Phoenix. I don't know if you've ever been to Canada in your life and you were censoring our election.

00:27:27.280 Yeah. And that's what's really shocking about, you know, Facebook's global policy is you have censors, you know,

00:27:34.280 they could be anywhere in the world and they're interfering in elections.

00:27:38.280 And, you know, I saw we had a post about Venezuela where we had a couple of years ago, Juan Guaido was trying to become the president and people were making calls for an armed revolution.

00:27:50.280 And Facebook told us to delete those posts. Just over the holiday weekend, July 4th here in the U.S., Facebook was banning the hashtag revolution.

00:28:00.280 And something shocking, something also new that I wanted to let you know, Ezra, I was going through some footage of when I filmed with the hidden camera.

00:28:08.280 And there's something I missed that's new that that is going to is abhorrent.

00:28:13.280 So there was a post, there was guidance given on January 30th of 2018 to us as censors.

00:28:20.280 And this is straight from Facebook. And there was an album, a music album of a children's band in Brazil.

00:28:26.280 And the children were naked on the cover, fully, fully nude toddlers. 0.58

00:28:30.280 And Facebook said the album cover does violate our child nudity policy.

00:28:35.280 However, given the artistic value of this album cover, as well as the public interest value, Facebook has decided to make a newsworthy exception.

00:28:43.280 So it just shows once again that clear bias and the fact that they're giving exceptions for child nudity.

00:28:50.280 The one thing they should not allow, they're giving an exception for it.

00:28:54.280 Yeah, I tell you, there's been so many high profile cases of pedophilia, whether it's Harvey Weinstein or Jeffrey Epstein.

00:29:02.280 You would think that the billionaire oligarchs would be a little more sensitive to that stuff, but I guess they really don't care.

00:29:08.280 And I guess that's my last question for you.

00:29:11.280 I mean, you've told us what's going on and it was shocking to hear it from you.

00:29:16.280 But now Jen Psaki is talking about it in a matter of fact way.

00:29:19.280 She's trying to normalize this extreme bias and the fact the government is now directing Facebook and the other companies.

00:29:27.280 I guess my question is, what could possibly be done about it?

00:29:31.280 You mentioned Donald Trump's lawsuit.

00:29:33.280 All right, good luck with that.

00:29:35.280 That depends on the temperament and the politics of a particular judge.

00:29:39.280 That depends on the skill of his lawyers.

00:29:41.280 That's not going to be enough.

00:29:44.280 What can be done on a society-wide level?

00:29:49.280 And what can an individual like us here at Rebel News do about it?

00:29:52.280 What can an ordinary person do about it?

00:29:54.280 Is there anything?

00:29:55.280 Yeah, I mean, definitely the first step is being informed.

00:29:58.280 You can read my book and learn exactly what their internal policies are.

00:30:01.280 As far as, there is a different legal strategy.

00:30:04.280 It might have some traction, which would be suing the government under the Fifth Amendment for due process.

00:30:09.280 Because since government is giving them instructions, normally we would have due process because they're depriving us of liberty and property, right?

00:30:19.280 And so, Facebook has shown there's no measurable bounds.

00:30:23.280 The rules are not being uniformly applied.

00:30:25.280 They're essentially acting as a quasi-government agency.

00:30:28.280 So that would be an alternate strategy to suit the United States government itself under the Fifth Amendment.

00:30:32.280 But as citizens, you know, in our local jurisdictions, I think on the state level we can pass legislation.

00:30:37.280 I know Florida and Texas have successfully passed some legislation against big tech, against censorship.

00:30:42.280 So, yeah, really just being informed, keeping it a priority.

00:30:46.280 I'm glad Trump launched the lawsuit because now it's forefront in their minds.

00:30:49.280 It really, you know, big tech's power is really a big problem.

00:30:54.280 And it's part of this mass censorship regime.

00:30:57.280 But, yeah, I think on the state level we can pass legislation.

00:31:00.280 But stay informed.

00:31:03.280 Keep fighting.

00:31:04.280 Be aware.

00:31:05.280 I know Canada might have some legislation in the pipeline regarding censorship.

00:31:09.280 That's even worse than what we have here in the U.S.

00:31:14.280 But I think there's some hope.

00:31:15.280 There's a glimmer of hope.

00:31:16.280 I'm glad that Trump is leading the fight.

00:31:18.280 And there's a lot of options open to us right now.

00:31:21.280 Well, I'm not quite as hopeful as you are.

00:31:24.280 I do think that it can fall to some of the states, especially Texas and Florida, who have governors who seem to be digging in on this.

00:31:32.280 Canada, I'll just tell you, as a Canadian, is lost on this.

00:31:36.280 I mean, Trudeau will surely win a majority government in a looming election.

00:31:41.280 And he has made it crystal clear that censoring the Internet is one of his top priorities.

00:31:46.280 In fact, it was the number two priority in his mandate letter given to his heritage minister two years ago.

00:31:53.280 So it's actually the only surprise in Canada is that the censorship law is not fully in place yet.

00:31:59.280 Ryan, it's nice to talk with you again.

00:32:01.280 Good luck in the book.

00:32:02.280 Just one more time for our viewers.

00:32:03.280 It's called Behind the Mask of Facebook.

00:32:05.280 Learn how to fight big tech censorship to protect free speech.

00:32:09.280 I don't think we quite have the full answer yet, but I look forward to your book.

00:32:12.280 Thanks, Ryan.

00:32:13.280 Yeah.

00:32:14.280 Thanks, Ezra.

00:32:15.280 All right.

00:32:16.280 There you have it.

00:32:17.280 Ryan Hartwig, one of the whistleblowers who showed us how Facebook down in Arizona was censoring the candidate election.

00:32:22.280 Stay with us more.

00:32:23.280 Hey, welcome back.

00:32:36.280 Bruce writes, this July 16th broadcast is why I wear my fascist book shirt proudly.

00:32:42.280 The government offloads much of the censorship burden to big tech so they can honestly say it isn't their fault when people get angry at them.

00:32:48.280 Oh, exactly.

00:32:49.280 And that's what Trudeau wants to do up here.

00:32:51.280 It's so clear that Trudeau is reading from Biden's playbook.

00:32:54.280 Sharon writes, I stopped using Facebook and fake book and so should everyone else.

00:33:00.280 No Twitter either.

00:33:01.280 Keep up the battle until the uprising competition takes hold and they no longer have a monopoly.

00:33:06.280 Well, I have two counterpoints to that.

00:33:10.280 The first is we want to persuade people now, not in some future forum that may or may not exist.

00:33:16.280 So we have to be where the people are, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.

00:33:20.280 The second thing is, anytime an alternative starts to gain traction, it's banned too.

00:33:26.280 Make your own social media.

00:33:28.280 Okay, they did.

00:33:29.280 Gab and Parler, both are being demonized or deplatformed, kicked off of app stores, things like that.

00:33:35.280 So they simply won't let you do it.

00:33:38.280 I'm worried about things and I don't think that Biden as president is going to get any better.

00:33:43.280 That's our show for today.

00:33:45.280 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:33:49.280 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:33:51.280 Bye.

Rebel News Podcast - July 20, 2021

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