Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ The 1807 British medal that answers Jamaica’s reparations campaign

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I have a little bit of a different kind of story for you today.

00:00:04.520 It's a story told by a coin. I recently came into possession of a coin that's about 200

00:00:12.520 years old. It's more a medallion than a coin. And the images on it and the languages on it

00:00:19.340 are just so fascinating for what they say about the time 200 years ago and what they say now.

00:00:26.020 I don't mean to keep you in suspense, but you're going to want to see this one.

00:00:29.540 And I mean, see it, not just here.

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00:00:56.020 tonight i'm holding a bronze coin that britain handed to slave traders in west africa

00:01:15.440 to tell them the business was over it's got arabic on the back let me show you why

00:01:20.760 It's September 22nd, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:27.200 Hey, did you see the story about Jamaica demanding billions of pounds from the United Kingdom for

00:01:46.200 slavery reparations? I've got a response to that. It's not the 10 billion pounds they want.

00:01:52.460 It's actually just one coin. Look at this. Two men, a European and an African, standing face to

00:01:59.220 face, shaking hands. Behind them, huts, palm trees, people dancing and working in the fields.

00:02:04.900 And around the edge, the words, we are all brethren. And underneath, slave trade abolished

00:02:12.840 by Great Britain, 1807.

00:02:17.160 Now, flip it over.

00:02:18.320 There's no picture on this side.

00:02:20.240 It's just writing, and it's not in English.

00:02:22.300 It's Arabic.

00:02:23.680 Now, here's what it says, according to the museum in Greenwich

00:02:26.140 and the Hood Museum of Dartmouth.

00:02:28.020 It says, sale of slaves prohibited in 1807 Christian era

00:02:34.380 in the reign of George III.

00:02:37.420 Verily, we are all brothers.

00:02:40.240 why is it in arabic why would a british metal struck at matthew bolton's soho mint in birmingham

00:02:48.980 commissioned by an abolitionist named zachary mccauley why would it be written in arabic

00:02:55.500 well because of who was selling the slaves but first a little perspective because the way this

00:03:01.240 is taught now you'd think slavery was invented by englishmen in the 1600s it wasn't slavery is as

00:03:09.040 old as civilization. It's in the Torah, the laws of Moses regulated. It's in the New Testament. Paul

00:03:15.820 tells slaves to obey their masters. It's in the Quran. Every one of those books treats slavery 0.94

00:03:21.960 the way we treat the weather, a permanent fixture of the world, to be managed, not abolished. 0.74

00:03:28.540 The Greeks had slaves. Rome ran on slaves. The Aztecs, the Chinese, the Vikings, the Ottomans,

00:03:34.660 the African kingdoms themselves. Every continent, every race, every religion since time immemorial

00:03:42.340 has had slaves. We're all actually descended from slaves. What was new, what had never happened

00:03:49.480 before in human history, was a group of people deciding it was wrong and that they would do

00:03:55.040 something about it. And who were these people? Well, overwhelmingly, evangelical Christians,

00:04:00.980 Wilberforce, Clarkson, the Clapham sect.

00:04:03.960 And the man who commissioned this medal, Zachary McCauley.

00:04:07.660 He was one of them, a man who had worked on a Jamaican sugar plantation as a young clerk,

00:04:13.600 seen it up close, got religion, and spent the rest of his life fighting against it.

00:04:17.780 That's not a footnote.

00:04:18.720 That's the whole story.

00:04:20.680 The moral code of the entire world changed, and it changed because of them.

00:04:27.880 Here's the part they don't teach you in school.

00:04:29.860 the Atlantic slave trade, the one with the ships and the plantations, ran for about 350 years. The

00:04:36.340 Arab slave trade, though, ran for about 1,300 years. It started in the 7th century, and it

00:04:44.340 didn't stop until the 20th. In fact, in some parts it still lives. Camel caravans across the Sahara

00:04:50.840 Desert, dows across the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean, the great slave market at Zanzibar. Scholars 0.97

00:04:58.200 argue about the numbers the way they always do. The low estimates for the Saharan roots alone are

00:05:03.800 6 to 10 million slaves. Ronald Siegel in his book Islam's Black Slaves puts the whole thing, Sahara,

00:05:11.260 Red Sea, Indian Ocean, at somewhere between 11 and 14 million souls. And there's a reason there 1.00

00:05:18.120 is no large black population in Arabia today the way there is in Brazil or Jamaica or Alabama. 0.85

00:05:23.940 most of the men were castrated most of those died the ones who lived were sold as eunuchs at seven

00:05:31.940 times the price of a man who hadn't been cut so when the royal navy showed up on the coast of

00:05:38.220 west africa in 1808 to enforce the new law the men marching slaves down to the beach to sell

00:05:44.900 them to the ships were very often muslim slave traders from the interior men who read arabic

00:05:51.540 that is who this medal was for. The museum says so plainly, it was, quote, intended to deter 0.63

00:05:59.080 Arab-speaking African traders from sending slave caravans to the coast. It's not a souvenir.

00:06:07.260 It's not actually money. It's a warning written in the reader's own language. And Britain backed

00:06:14.860 that warning with a navy. They called it the West Africa Squadron. It started patrolling in 1808.

00:06:21.540 based at Freetown, Sierra Leone. For 60 years, the Royal Navy chased slave ships up and down

00:06:28.420 that coast. They captured about 1,600 of these ships. They freed about 150,000 Africans. Most of

00:06:36.420 them landed right there at Freetown, which is why the medal was made for Sierra Leone in the first

00:06:41.140 place. It was miserable duty, yellow fever, malaria, dysentery. The best count from the

00:06:46.980 the National Museum of the Royal Navy, is about 1,600 British sailors dead between 1830 and 1865.

00:06:55.520 The political scientists who studied the whole campaign put British lives lost at roughly 5,000.

00:07:01.200 Those are British people dying to fight against slavery. And here's the number I want you to

00:07:06.400 remember. Two academics at the University of Chicago, Kaufman and Pape, they're called, went

00:07:10.580 through the books, they found the campaign against these slave ships cost Britain about 1.8%

00:07:18.460 of its national income, of its GDP, every year for 60 years. Think about what that means. You know,

00:07:27.240 NATO's target for a country's entire military is 2% of GDP. They're talking about moving it up to

00:07:34.040 5%. Canada's not even at 2%. Most members spent decades failing to hit it. Britain spent nearly

00:07:41.540 that amount for two generations just on other people's freedom and got nothing back except a 0.63

00:07:48.580 lot of dead British sailors. Kaufman and Pape called it the most costly international moral

00:07:54.960 action in modern history. Let me put it another way. Britain spent more per capita fighting against

00:08:01.760 slavery than Canada does today on our entire military. But that was the trade. What about

00:08:09.580 the slaves Britain already owned? Well, in 1833, Parliament abolished slavery itself. Not just the

00:08:17.560 slave trade, but slavery was abolished across the British Empire. About 800,000 people were freed.

00:08:25.060 And to get it through, to get it done, Britain did something no other country has done.

00:08:32.060 It bought them out.

00:08:33.380 It paid for their freedom.

00:08:35.540 The slave owners got 20 million pounds.

00:08:38.140 That was about 40% of the entire national budget that year. 0.56

00:08:43.920 Now, Britain didn't have 20 million pounds lying around, so it borrowed it.

00:08:50.580 The loan was arranged in 1835 by Nathan Rothschild and Moses Montefiore, two Jewish financiers,

00:08:57.920 by the way, funding the emancipation of African slaves.

00:09:02.280 How much is 20 million pounds in today's money?

00:09:05.720 Because that would matter.

00:09:06.400 I mean, 20 million pounds is a lot of money, but in the terms of government, it's not unthinkable.

00:09:12.160 But back then, what would it be worth today?

00:09:14.840 Well, it depends on how you count.

00:09:16.040 I mean, just inflation, the price of bread, gets you about two and a half billion pounds.

00:09:22.420 But that's the wrong measure for a national project, measured as a share of the economy, the way you'd measure a war or a bailout.

00:09:30.620 The UK borrowed and spent about 133 billion pounds in today's money.

00:09:39.660 That's the number of the economic historians at Measuring Worth give.

00:09:42.760 And for those of you watching in Canada, at today's exchange rate, about $1.87 Canadian to the pound, that's roughly $250 billion Canadian dollars.

00:09:56.840 A quarter of a trillion dollars was borrowed by the UK to buy the freedom of other people.

00:10:06.400 And here's the part that made news a few years ago.

00:10:09.260 that loan wasn't paid off in 1850 or 1900 or 1950. The UK Treasury confirmed in writing

00:10:17.900 that the last of it was finally paid off on February 1st, 2015, just a decade ago. If you

00:10:25.960 paid tax in Britain before 2015, you were still paying for the end of slavery, literally paying

00:10:33.380 for it. And Britain didn't stop at its own empire, by the way, it leaned on Brazil,

00:10:38.620 and the Brazilian trade ended in 1850. It sent Sir Bartle Frere to Zanzibar in 1873 and shut the

00:10:46.500 biggest slave market in the Indian Ocean down. It wrote anti-slavery clauses into treaty after

00:10:53.000 treaty. Slavery in Saudi Arabia was only abolished in 1962, in Oman 1970, in Mauritania 1981. That's

00:11:02.820 how slavery is and was in the rest of the world.

00:11:07.220 Now against all that, consider what's happening right now.

00:11:09.860 There is a campaign inside Britain,

00:11:12.120 across the former colonies,

00:11:13.860 to make the UK pay reparations for slavery.

00:11:17.640 The Caribbean governments have a reparations commission.

00:11:21.380 They hired consultants, the Brattle Group,

00:11:23.780 who produced a number.

00:11:24.720 They say that Britain owes 14 Caribbean countries

00:11:28.940 24 trillion U.S. dollars. Trillion, with a T.

00:11:32.660 That's roughly seven times the size of the entire British economy, by the way.

00:11:36.820 At the Commonwealth Summit in Samoa two years ago, Keir Starmer, that was the British Prime Minister of the day, said no, which is shocking.

00:11:43.520 I mean, he's the kind of guy who would say yes.

00:11:44.900 The other leaders ignored him, though, and put it in their communique anyways.

00:11:49.200 In March, the U.N. General Assembly voted 123 to 3 to declare the transatlantic slave trade, quote, the gravest crime against humanity and to urge reparations.

00:12:03.880 The transatlantic trade, mind you, not the Arab one, which ran four times as long.

00:12:09.780 In July, the Caribbean commissioners were in London lobbying MPs.

00:12:14.160 and in November, the Commonwealth meets again in Antigua, and it'll be back on the table.

00:12:19.820 Nobody is sending an invoice to Zanzibar or Algiers or asking Saudi Arabia, which kept

00:12:25.860 slaves until 1962. Nobody is asking the descendants of the African kings who sold the captives in the

00:12:33.580 first place. They're just asking Britain, the one country that spent 60 years and 2% of its economy

00:12:42.220 stopping it and it was still paying off the loan for freeing its own slaves until just a decade or

00:12:50.700 so ago so here's my point of view no force in human history has done more to free the slaves

00:12:57.640 to stop the slave trade and to enforce that ban around the world than the united kingdom

00:13:04.660 60 years of its Royal Navy.

00:13:07.260 A loan that took 180 years to pay off.

00:13:10.680 The one exception you could argue is the American Civil War,

00:13:13.820 which freed 4 million people

00:13:16.000 and cost the Americans more than 600,000 of their own lives.

00:13:20.640 That was costlier in blood.

00:13:22.560 Nothing else comes close.

00:13:24.740 And this, this little piece of bronze

00:13:29.200 is what it looked like on the ground.

00:13:31.320 A handshake, three words, and a sentence in Arabic.

00:13:33.680 And so the men who've been doing it for a thousand years would understand, it's over.

00:13:39.280 We are all brethren, it says.

00:13:41.680 They meant it.

00:13:43.460 Do you think anyone would strike a medal like this today?

00:13:55.340 You know, I used to watch The Simpsons.

00:13:57.980 It was a cartoon, but I think it was for an older audience.

00:14:01.400 and one of the themes was a man going town to town to sell a monorail and he was such a huckster

00:14:10.080 hustler it was so funny and he would sort of tease and manipulate the people of Springfield and say

00:14:16.620 well the people of the neighboring town want it maybe this is more of a neighboring town kind of

00:14:23.000 idea here take a quick look at the monorail salesman from the Simpsons all right I tell you

00:14:30.180 what i'll do i'll show you my idea i give you the springfield monorail i've sold monorails to

00:14:39.720 brockway ogdenville and north haverbrook and by gum it put them on the map well sir there's

00:14:45.660 nothing on earth like a genuine bona fide electrified six car monorail what i say monorail

00:14:51.200 what's it called monorail that's right monorail monorail monorail monorail yeah i think that is

00:14:58.500 how train salesmen sort of are.

00:15:01.700 I mean, trains were a critical part of the Industrial Revolution,

00:15:05.800 but that was 150 years ago.

00:15:08.700 I mean, there still are trains moving important things around.

00:15:12.200 But the idea of a high speed train for people just doesn't make sense

00:15:16.800 in North America.

00:15:18.100 It might make economic and logistical sense in a place like Japan or China,

00:15:24.100 where you have an incredible number of people very densely packed

00:15:27.800 And a train, even if it doesn't break even financially, has a very important job.

00:15:34.600 But when I think of proposals for trains in Canada, for example, between Calgary and Edmonton, there's just not enough of a population base.

00:15:43.920 Plus, you've got cars and Ubers and three airlines competing there.

00:15:49.160 It's just that monorail salesman looking to pad his pockets.

00:15:53.220 And if you doubt me, well, think of the most populous state in the Union, California.

00:15:59.140 It has the biggest population.

00:16:00.620 In fact, it's comparable almost with Canada.

00:16:03.680 And much of it is along the coast.

00:16:05.500 You'd think that it could shoulder the burden of a high-speed train.

00:16:09.560 Well, tens of billions of dollars have been spent on it.

00:16:13.380 But of course, between environmental projects and all sorts of other objections,

00:16:18.500 only a handful of kilometers have been built and I don't think it will ever be built but that's not

00:16:26.380 really the point of monorails now is it it's to pad the pockets of everyone involved and so

00:16:32.420 it shouldn't be too surprising that when our prime minister Brookfield decides that he wants

00:16:40.180 big projects that a monorail is one of them he doesn't call it a monorail of course it's not

00:16:44.640 actually a monorail, but it's a high speed rail train that will go between some politically

00:16:50.140 important liberal cities at a cost of, I don't know, nearly a hundred billion dollars. Do we

00:16:57.580 need that? Of course not. Will it improve transit between those cities? Unlikely, unlikely to be

00:17:04.500 built at all. But the carnage it's already causing is enough to cause people to stand up. And I don't

00:17:10.400 mean professional arguers or activists. I mean, severely normal people like farmers whose land

00:17:18.120 will be expropriated for this white elephant. Joining us now to talk about this and a protest

00:17:23.600 against the train by our farmer friends is Alexa Lavoie, our Quebec Bureau Chief. Alexa, great to

00:17:31.880 see you. Welcome back. Thank you for having me. You know, I've been on trains and I like them

00:17:36.660 plenty. I've been on a high-speed train in Shanghai, in Japan. It's pretty fun. I just don't know if

00:17:42.560 it's economically sensible in Canada. Actually, I do know. It's not economically sensible. Tell me

00:17:48.440 how the people of Quebec, though, are reacting to this proposal of a high-speed train. You were

00:17:54.700 recently at a major protest, and your footage was seen millions of times. Tell us about the people

00:18:01.300 you met who were against this train? Yeah, we need to understand that for those people who were

00:18:07.320 over there, the price is not really the biggest concern. It's the land. We are talking about

00:18:15.900 1,700 property will be impacted between Ottawa and Montreal. And on those property, we have 500

00:18:27.500 agricultural land. So we have right now, some farmers will have full expropriation,

00:18:36.320 partially expropriation. And that doesn't actually count of the fact that where the

00:18:43.240 train is passing, it would be a wall. You will not be able to just cross over. You will need

00:18:50.200 to find a place where you can cross over and we talk about kilometers away from every places where

00:18:58.020 you can just go to the other side so there is some farmers who will have literally their land

00:19:04.640 being split in the middle where they cannot really reach the the other side really easily

00:19:11.480 so a lot of people are really concerned especially because they have no words about the expropriation

00:19:17.880 because of Bill C-15, as of right now,

00:19:22.040 if they receive expropriation letters,

00:19:25.040 they cannot even do anything on their land

00:19:27.780 that can rise the value of their property.

00:19:32.280 So they cannot build anything.

00:19:33.900 They cannot even, like, plant some flowers or anything.

00:19:39.540 They cannot do nothing on their own property.

00:19:43.540 Isn't that interesting?

00:19:44.740 Because there's been an expropriation notice,

00:19:47.300 they're not allowed to improve it because i suppose the government would say well that's

00:19:52.080 making the price higher for us to buy isn't it that's a very i never even thought of that before

00:19:56.620 now as far as i know this rapid train as they suggest it will be hasn't got a final route

00:20:05.120 hasn't got final approval hasn't gone through environmental hoops hasn't gone through any of

00:20:11.880 the planning that say oh i don't know a pipeline would and um but it sounds like the liberal

00:20:19.760 government is adamant on it proceeding do they do they even know you mentioned the number of farms

00:20:26.320 that would be split in half do they have a route that that's locked in like like isn't that something

00:20:32.320 they would need some sort of approval to do first so they have like a piece of land that they are

00:20:40.140 evaluating uh on this range of land they are apparently there is drones that took some pictures

00:20:48.540 and they send some notice to the people who might be affected so there is more people than

00:20:55.460 what they will need but that implies that those people they don't know if uh the part of the the

00:21:03.940 land that would be chosen it would be their property and we talk about some people who have

00:21:08.880 already been expropriated in mirabelle right remember that right that's the airport yeah

00:21:14.000 and now they are expropriating for the second time really i guess that makes sense because

00:21:21.040 the railway track would come into montreal and so if you had your land taken because of the airport

00:21:26.460 it's it's not surprising that you might be in the way of this train now tell me a little bit

00:21:31.040 about the protest you went to because i saw the footage and tell you the first thing i i thought

00:21:36.160 was how beautiful visually the protest was it was on gorgeous farmland the weather looked beautiful

00:21:43.620 the tractors were so colorful tell us a little bit about your recent protests you went to I think

00:21:48.880 you were one of the only journalists there and your videos were so stunning they were I think

00:21:53.560 they were seen three million times tell us a little bit about it and then we'll play a clip

00:21:57.300 of your visit yes so it was on a farm the logos farm uh they will be the most impacted by the

00:22:08.200 tier like the alto project there were hundreds of people a lot of kids was over there um we had

00:22:19.080 some politicians because we are currently in a provincial election campaign so we had

00:22:25.460 Eric Duhaime who came and delivered the speech. But we had also one of the candidates for the

00:22:32.860 PQ, the Parti Québécois. And we had also like some local politicians that was on the farm.

00:22:40.540 We had also agitator. We had the Marxist-Leninist agitator who were screaming about Palestine in

00:22:48.640 the middle of the protest. That's really weird. Now, you mentioned Eric Duhaime. We know him.

00:22:53.280 He's a very principled leader of the Quebec Conservative Party.

00:22:58.260 In fact, he briefly worked for Rebel News years ago.

00:23:01.300 So he stands with the farmers on this.

00:23:04.020 It's interesting to me that the Parti Québécois would have a candidate there too.

00:23:08.860 Does that reflect their party's opposition to this as well?

00:23:12.700 So they're against it too?

00:23:14.200 There is two parties that are against it.

00:23:16.780 It's the Parti Québécois and it's...

00:23:19.000 But obviously the Parti Québécois will oppose to it because it's a federal project.

00:23:23.280 Well, whatever the reason is, I'm sure the farmers are glad.

00:23:28.360 Now, how were you received?

00:23:30.400 Because Rebel News is a very interesting identity in Quebec.

00:23:34.760 Many people are extremely grateful for you because you're one of the few reporters that tells their side of the story.

00:23:41.540 I've seen that many times.

00:23:42.660 On the other hand, there's some political correctness against Rebel News.

00:23:47.040 How did the farmers treat you when you went to their event?

00:23:50.260 they treated us really well

00:23:54.260 they were really nice with us

00:23:55.800 a lot of people were fans of

00:23:58.040 revenues and you know

00:24:00.120 like it's not only conservative

00:24:01.820 we had like

00:24:03.200 people who vote PQ

00:24:06.160 or Bloc Québécois

00:24:07.620 they really love our work

00:24:10.360 because it's truthful

00:24:11.860 and we are following the facts

00:24:13.620 and we are just showing what the people

00:24:16.040 have to say and they really appreciate

00:24:18.260 that because the only other journalists

00:24:20.060 who showed up, it's because they were in the bus

00:24:23.180 with Eric Duhem.

00:24:25.900 So you were the only journalist who went there

00:24:28.540 just for the protest.

00:24:30.160 You're saying there was another journalist,

00:24:31.640 but it was because they were in the campaign entourage.

00:24:34.660 Is that what you're saying?

00:24:34.960 There were some local media.

00:24:36.700 I saw some local media, but like really big media

00:24:40.100 were there for the event itself.

00:24:42.220 I didn't really see any.

00:24:44.360 Maybe there were some, but I didn't really see them.

00:24:47.680 Well, let me just take a minute and switch topics.

00:24:49.840 And we were talking about this just before we turn the camera on.

00:24:52.220 You mentioned big media.

00:24:53.840 One of the funnest nights of my life, Alexa, was the federal election debate in the last

00:25:00.140 general election, because Rebel News, which had been blocked in 2019 and 2021, blocked

00:25:07.980 by the Liberal Party's Debates Commission, we had gone to court twice and we had won

00:25:13.180 twice.

00:25:13.840 So they finally grudgingly allowed us accreditation.

00:25:17.660 And so you and me and Sheila and the rest of our team were all there together.

00:25:22.280 We even had our big, beautiful billboard truck.

00:25:24.860 It was such an exciting time.

00:25:26.840 And the CBC, or as it's called in Quebec, Radio Canada, did not like us, especially since we were in their big office.

00:25:34.960 Well, you told me the other day, you mentioned there's an election going on in Quebec.

00:25:39.520 You got a letter from their debate organizers.

00:25:45.000 Tell our viewers about it.

00:25:46.700 And I don't want to steal your thunder, but it's good news.

00:25:50.240 Yeah, so I applied for the accreditation for the leader debate that Radio Canada is hosting

00:25:56.780 because we had one with TVA, another news outlet in Quebec, and I got refused for TVA.

00:26:03.360 And so I applied and I just wish for the best.

00:26:08.120 And I received yesterday a letter saying that our accreditation has been approved for me and Guillaume.

00:26:18.880 You know what? When you sent that letter to me, I almost couldn't believe it because they are so hostile to us and to you because you are one of the rare independent media voices in Quebec.

00:26:29.820 In some ways, I think it's harder to be an independent journalist in Quebec than in English Canada.

00:26:34.520 So when you got that letter and you shared a copy of it with me, en français, that Radio Canada was writing to say, welcome aboard, I almost couldn't believe it. I'm so excited. And I think, frankly, part of it is because you personally have shown you're an outstanding journalist.

00:26:52.220 And I think even a lot of reporters who may not share your ideological point of view, they have to acknowledge you are breaking important stories.

00:27:00.920 You're working very hard. And, you know, I thought it was a milestone when the leader of the Parti Québécois sat down with you for an hour.

00:27:09.020 And of course, you've interviewed other party leaders, too, including Eric Duan.

00:27:14.000 So I just wanted to toot your horn a little bit because you've had a really good run out there recently.

00:27:18.760 And I wanted to let our viewers know. Thanks for covering the story.

00:27:22.080 I don't think other media companies have focused on it.

00:27:26.760 And it's an early sign that I think the Liberals are going to have a tough time forcing through that unwanted train.

00:27:32.820 Great to catch up with you.

00:27:33.740 Thanks very much.

00:27:35.160 Thank you so much.

00:27:36.080 All right.

00:27:36.380 There she is, Alexa Lavoie, our star reporter in Quebec.

00:27:40.000 Stay with us.

00:27:40.960 Your letters to me next.

00:27:42.420 hey welcome back your letters to me about my visit yesterday to belleville the small city

00:27:57.440 about two hours east of toronto where the shooting happened oh my god it was so close

00:28:03.240 if that police officer hadn't been there to stop the gunman i think everyone in the synagogue would

00:28:09.060 have been massacred it was just terrifying and i spoke to the president in the synagogue who said

00:28:13.720 as much to me but there was that one lady and i'm not picking on her but what she said i don't even

00:28:18.520 think she was thinking at three she said oh it's that netanyahu yeah i don't think you can blame

00:28:23.340 a politician on the other side of the world for someone wanting to kill jews here that politician

00:28:28.380 may be gone very soon in fact it's a an election in israel do you do you really think jew hate is

00:28:34.140 going to change because politician a is replaced by politician b i i think the thing about

00:28:40.640 anti-semitism is sort of a an enduring universal uh bigotry that you can blame for anything and

00:28:48.140 everything and there's no what i've learned as a jew is that you can really never fix

00:28:54.860 uh things so that an anti-semit doesn't hate you anymore you just if it's not this it's that

00:29:01.400 it's whatever it is because you're the cosmic universal problem in the world it's it's quite

00:29:06.920 a terrifying form of bigotry i i'm lucky in that in my life i haven't faced much of it at all until

00:29:13.540 really very very recently in toronto anyways digger d says grew up in belleville typical

00:29:20.440 mindset being that they mostly watch the mainstream media small town views i'm going to disagree with

00:29:26.360 you politely on that i don't think it has to do with small town or big city we see those same

00:29:31.080 views anywhere. Yes, I do believe that they are connected to the mainstream media. By the way,

00:29:35.560 we were very well received in Belleville. There were a lot of rebel supporters there.

00:29:40.480 I just think that lady who was obviously appalled by the shootings, I think she

00:29:45.500 is being sucked in a little bit to thinking, oh, if only Israel would change, if only Netanyahu

00:29:52.460 would be a little less whatever he is, then all these problems would go away. I just don't think

00:29:58.940 that's how anti-Semitism works. David Bird about the Ada Luke interview. That's the Spanish lady

00:30:05.960 who was talking to us about Ceuta. Spain is showing the world the disaster, the elbows up 0.97

00:30:11.840 ideology really is. Yeah. You know, I was debating a left-wing YouTuber the other day in Vancouver

00:30:17.820 named Destiny. That's his nickname. And I asked him what he thought about Ceuta and he called it

00:30:22.800 an invasion, which surprised me that he used that language. But I said, why are you against that,

00:30:28.360 but not the U.S. southern border being open and millions coming through. And his answer was

00:30:33.320 pretty weak. I mean, is it the speed by which the numbers of people come in that makes the

00:30:39.340 difference? I don't know. I think what happened in Spain is an invasion. I don't think an invasion

00:30:46.320 needs to have guns. If you bring 50,000 young military age migrant men in from a neighboring 0.99

00:30:53.300 country walking across the border illegally i think that's an invasion that's our show for the 0.99

00:30:59.560 day until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to you at home good

00:31:04.600 night and keep fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - September 22, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ The 1807 British medal that answers Jamaica’s reparations campaign

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