Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ The war for truth： In the studio with Alex Jones

00:00:00.240 Hello, my friends. An interesting show for you today, if I do say so myself. It's almost two

00:00:04.860 hours long also. I interviewed Alex Jones of Infowars down in Austin, Texas, but he interviewed

00:00:11.700 me for almost an hour, and so did his co-host of another program there, Owen Schreier, for almost

00:00:18.140 an hour. Altogether, the program today is about two hours long, and I think you'll find it

00:00:23.500 interesting and challenging and entertaining and outraging. You tell me what you think of it.

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00:00:54.180 It's the news event of the year. Canada's most controversial premier sits down with

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00:01:36.180 Special discounted prices for Patriots and special extra high prices if you're with the CBC.

00:01:41.680 Go to rebelnewslive.com now. Tonight, a visit to InfoWars studio and Alex Jones. It's October 1st,

00:01:51.440 and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:53.340 You're fighting for freedom! Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:59.380 Oh, hi everybody. I am back in our world headquarters in Toronto, Canada. I just got 0.57

00:02:13.480 back this morning from a trip to Austin, Texas. What an interesting city that is. It's Texas. It's

00:02:20.880 the capital of Texas, but it's a little bit weird. In fact, that's one of their unofficial

00:02:25.040 mottos. Weird Austin. Keep Austin weird. It's a high-tech city, too. In fact, Twitter is moving

00:02:32.360 its head office there. Elon Musk has a big presence in Texas near Austin. A lot of interesting people

00:02:38.380 are there. Joe Rogan and a lot of other broadcasters, including Alex Jones of InfoWars. A controversial

00:02:45.460 man, to be sure, but a man for whom many things that he said that were labeled conspiracy theories

00:02:52.000 later became true. In fact, when I talked with him yesterday, you'll see my interview with him,

00:02:56.580 I said there's two ways to be wrong. You could believe too many things to be true and be gullible,

00:03:03.440 or you could believe too many things are false and be overly skeptical. Those are two kinds of errors.

00:03:09.900 Ideally, we're skeptical for things we should be skeptical about, and we believe things we should

00:03:16.000 believe in. But if you had to choose one of those mistakes to make, given the way of the world these

00:03:22.260 days, I would choose an omniskeptic. I would choose someone who challenges and cross-examines and doubts

00:03:29.400 things more than someone who is too gullible. That got Alex Jones into some trouble a dozen years ago

00:03:35.880 when he saw a mass shooting in a school at Sandy Hook, and he thought that it looked wrong. He said it was

00:03:43.600 fake. He later retracted that and apologized to the families of the kids shot in that school shooting,

00:03:50.260 but not before they sued him and were awarded $1.5 billion in a defamation case. That's a staggering amount

00:03:59.800 of money. For example, when the Libyan government blew up the flight over Lockerbie, Scotland, they paid 0.90

00:04:07.980 reparations $10 million per family. Alex Jones had to pay $50 million per family, and he didn't kill

00:04:18.420 people. He just talked about it. You could call it lawfare. You could call it a bunch of things, but one

00:04:25.660 of the things that emanated from that is Infowars itself is going to be auctioned off by the government

00:04:33.040 government to pay part of that debt. I went down there to talk a little bit about that. You'll see

00:04:37.980 I asked a question to Alex Jones about that, but basically I wanted to talk to him about the state

00:04:43.260 of the world. I wanted to talk to him about his fears for the upcoming election and if he's hopeful,

00:04:49.320 if he thinks the election might be stolen again. I wanted to hear what he thought about several

00:04:54.540 assassination attempts against Donald Trump. There was so much to talk about. I interviewed him for

00:05:01.220 about 20 or 25 minutes, and then I appeared on his show for a full hour, and then he has a fellow

00:05:08.480 broadcaster, Owen Schroyer, and I was on his show for an hour. It was an interesting visit. They really

00:05:15.060 are the granddaddy of citizen journalism. I don't know if you know how Alex Jones got his start.

00:05:21.200 It was by sneaking in to sort of a weird, occult summer camp for grown-up billionaires called Bohemian

00:05:30.200 Grove. Have you ever heard of that before? It's an astonishing thing. A very young Alex Jones

00:05:35.040 sneaked into like a cult-like gathering of mainly Republicans, actually. The Democrats have their own

00:05:42.380 weirdness, primarily around the late Jeffrey Epstein. Here's just a little clip of what Alex Jones saw

00:05:49.460 in Bohemian Grove. I think that was a very important news report that Alex Jones made. People

00:05:57.060 said, oh no, there's nothing funny going on in Bohemian Grove. Definitely not a cult or a sex

00:06:02.860 cult. Definitely nothing you need to be concerned about. And he proved that all of that was true and

00:06:09.080 more. And if your strange accusation turns out to be true and then some, you have a confidence that

00:06:18.260 forever if someone says you're wrong, that's a conspiracy theory, I suppose it gives you a confidence

00:06:22.820 to say, no, I want to continue pressing on to find the truth. Because I mean, that's almost a once in a

00:06:30.660 lifetime level scoop he had in Bohemian Grove. Anyhow, that's Alex Jones. I like the guy. I find

00:06:36.360 him a great storyteller, an entertaining storyteller. I find that he's naturally curious. He's a voracious

00:06:43.960 reader. I think he gets his facts straight, certainly more than the mainstream media. I don't know if you

00:06:49.080 remember he went on Joe Rogan's podcast and Joe Rogan and his staff really fact-checked him in real

00:06:54.480 time. And Alex Jones is right. Here, take a look at how some of that went.

00:06:58.560 ...tific research. I definitely believe that.

00:07:00.480 Did you ever see Trinity and Beyond with William Shatner? I know you know.

00:07:03.280 But let's start slow because you go over so many different things.

00:07:06.940 They detonated 200 hydrogen bombs trying to ignite the atmosphere in the 1960s.

00:07:10.760 Oh no, I know they did.

00:07:11.600 The U.S. Air Force tried to destroy the atmosphere in 1968.

00:07:14.680 Yes. Operation Starfish Prime. They actually detonated a nuclear bomb.

00:07:19.640 It's psychotic!

00:07:20.460 They detonated a nuclear bomb in the upper ionosphere.

00:07:23.640 Trying to blow up the radiation bomb.

00:07:25.320 Yes. They've done a lot of goofy shit. 1.00

00:07:27.680 But see, that's the thing. That's why I got mad at you. And I love you and you're a smart 1.00

00:07:30.100 guy and everything.

00:07:31.100 You got mad at me because we didn't communicate.

00:07:33.700 You know all this stuff I know. You're even better at saying it. And then you sit there

00:07:37.540 because you can't handle it. And you sit there and you dole it out.

00:07:40.600 It's not that I can't handle it. There's two factors. One, I don't have any time.

00:07:44.040 I don't have enough time to go into it as much as you do.

00:07:46.560 You asked why I flipped out and got mad at you? That's it right there.

00:07:49.600 Every time I bring up a fucking subject, you know all about it! 0.99

00:07:53.140 I don't know all about this. 1.00

00:07:53.980 You fucking know all about this shit! 1.00

00:07:55.980 I don't know all about this. 1.00

00:07:56.960 Bullshit! You're a smart guy. 1.00

00:07:58.280 I don't know all about this human hybrid chimeric shit. 1.00

00:08:00.600 Joe's just dumb. Joe just is a... Bullshit! 1.00

00:08:04.440 You know exactly what you're... I don't think you're a bad guy. 1.00

00:08:06.680 You're trying to survive for you and your family and do good.

00:08:09.060 Okay, but...

00:08:09.780 My family, your family, none of us are going to make it.

00:08:12.400 There's a post-human error coming.

00:08:15.000 The breakaway civilization.

00:08:16.300 The deal's been made.

00:08:17.940 It's not in the third dimension.

00:08:19.580 They've made freaking deals with interdimensional aliens.

00:08:22.760 Okay.

00:08:23.260 And notice the media never attacks you for that because that's the truth.

00:08:26.360 Maybe this is true.

00:08:27.120 I do not know this.

00:08:28.700 We'll get into it.

00:08:29.380 Okay, I do not know this.

00:08:30.520 And even these human-pig hybrids... 1.00

00:08:32.840 Jamie just pulled this out. 0.63

00:08:33.800 I believe it's true.

00:08:34.600 I mean, I'm worried about human-pig hybrids. 1.00

00:08:36.860 I'm sorry the Sandy Hill kids died.

00:08:39.100 My identity is not that!

00:08:40.460 I get it.

00:08:41.420 They admit 5G in all the studies.

00:08:43.440 LA Times causes massive mutation and cancer.

00:08:46.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:08:46.460 It literally rattles your DNA apart.

00:08:48.580 All of our kids are under attack.

00:08:50.120 You mean 5G?

00:08:50.520 And I'm mad at Trump for allowing 5G to come in.

00:08:52.880 This is the new internet protocol?

00:08:53.940 You know why they won't let China put in WAPO? 0.52

00:08:56.200 You know 5G and major...

00:08:58.060 That's the big Chinese 5G.

00:08:58.780 You are on fire today.

00:09:00.160 No, the big 5G!

00:09:01.460 You're on fire.

00:09:02.120 No joke.

00:09:02.920 Joke.

00:09:03.380 The 5G.

00:09:04.360 You're on fire.

00:09:05.200 Okay, remember how I told you there was a BBC article in 96 about human-animal hybrids

00:09:10.060 with pigs and cows?

00:09:10.960 Yes.

00:09:11.640 You've got to make you part cows so the cow keeps you and doesn't reject it. 1.00

00:09:14.400 Or part pig. 0.93

00:09:15.280 Okay. 0.69

00:09:15.700 Okay, but let me expand.

00:09:16.500 And you know about pigs and rats we're most closely related to.

00:09:19.080 It's not even chimpanzees.

00:09:19.920 That's why a lot of the organs don't get rejected.

00:09:21.600 Okay.

00:09:21.900 You know about that?

00:09:23.020 Yes.

00:09:23.500 Okay.

00:09:23.760 Yes.

00:09:24.360 Pigs are very close to humans.

00:09:26.260 They even use pig organs and people...

00:09:28.140 Exactly.

00:09:28.700 You usually know everything.

00:09:29.840 Show.

00:09:30.840 No, it's true.

00:09:31.900 I mean, you know, in a general knowledge, you know everything I know.

00:09:34.500 No, no, no.

00:09:35.080 I don't.

00:09:35.820 Listen.

00:09:36.220 Let me tell you, Joe, Joe, Joe, this is literally...

00:09:38.500 We know what they're doing.

00:09:40.380 Anyways, I went down there and I always enjoy my discussions with him.

00:09:43.560 Obviously, I don't agree with everything he has to say.

00:09:46.100 But then again, I don't know any two people who do disagree with each other 100% of the

00:09:51.140 time.

00:09:51.880 Certainly not husbands and wives or people that close.

00:09:55.380 But Alex Jones is important.

00:09:57.260 He's an important symbol of citizen journalism, of freedom of speech.

00:10:01.100 And of the fact that I think the regime media gets away with too much, the fact that he

00:10:07.300 was canceled by 14 different social media platforms on the same day, I think should

00:10:12.860 have been an alarm to the rest of us.

00:10:14.920 It wasn't really because it was just Alex Jones.

00:10:17.700 Whatever you think of the man, let me know.

00:10:19.800 But first, watch my interview of him when I went down there.

00:10:24.120 And then later, if you have the time, this is an extra long episode today, because after

00:10:28.840 my interview of Alex Jones, I'll play in full my one hour on his show, and then my one

00:10:35.620 hour on Owen Schroyer's show.

00:10:38.200 You'll see that we do play a few clips from Rebel News, including my trip down to Sao Paulo

00:10:43.120 for the free speech rally.

00:10:44.440 I'd like to hear your feedback on this.

00:10:46.320 Do you think I asked the right questions?

00:10:48.260 Do you think I answered the right questions?

00:10:50.200 What do you think about Alex Jones and the fact that his property is going to be auctioned

00:10:54.900 off?

00:10:55.520 Without further ado, my visit to Austin, Texas.

00:10:58.820 By the way, tomorrow I'll have a clip for you of when I went downtown after my visit to

00:11:05.860 Alex Jones.

00:11:07.220 And I went to Joe Rogan's comedy show.

00:11:09.980 Now, the comedy show itself was sold out, but I thought, let's interview the people waiting

00:11:14.980 in line.

00:11:16.200 Let's do streeters about freedom of speech in Texas.

00:11:20.220 You won't want to miss that.

00:11:21.360 That's tomorrow.

00:11:22.120 But for today, my visit to Alex Jones and Infowars.

00:11:25.200 36 days to the U.S. presidential election.

00:11:27.820 The whole world hangs on it, not just America, but even us in Canada.

00:11:31.260 What are your thoughts?

00:11:32.540 Well, Ezra, it's great to have you here in Austin.

00:11:35.000 You know, I got to say, I've been on air 30 years, and nothing even comes 10% as close

00:11:39.220 to the suspense, the danger, just the incredible crossroads that not just America, but the

00:11:45.520 whole world is in right now.

00:11:47.400 We see populists winning elections all over the planet.

00:11:49.360 We see a global awakening to the whole BlackRock, New World Order, cashless society, slave 0.98

00:11:56.000 grid that's being put in place.

00:11:57.140 We've seen two attempted assassination attempts on President Trump.

00:12:01.300 We see Kamala just plunging even in the establishment polls.

00:12:04.540 And so the system is very, very desperate right now, but it's going to try to launch some

00:12:11.280 black swan events, I believe false flags, and other crises and October surprises to try

00:12:18.620 to scare the public back into submission or at least have a big enough crisis that they're

00:12:23.460 able to steal the election like the evidence is overwhelming they did in 2000 and to make

00:12:28.100 that believable.

00:12:29.440 So we are living in the most interesting times, undoubtedly in modern history and probably

00:12:35.980 in human history.

00:12:37.980 Assassination attempts on Trump, then I think what could only be called a coup, removing Joe

00:12:43.920 Biden.

00:12:44.420 Like, I just have never seen anything like it.

00:12:46.460 And there's still a month to go.

00:12:48.340 I'm actually worried about another assassination attempt.

00:12:50.780 To me, that's the most terrifying thing.

00:12:53.200 Do you think Donald Trump is taking his security seriously?

00:12:56.100 Is he relying too much on a partisan secret service?

00:13:00.640 Do you think he has, like, some of the Blackwater guys advising him?

00:13:04.020 Are you worried about Trump's safety?

00:13:05.660 I know he's taking it more seriously than he did in the past.

00:13:07.880 The guy's tough.

00:13:08.480 He's got ice water in his veins.

00:13:09.600 But absolutely, he's taking it more serious.

00:13:12.120 In fact, recently, they've been having to downsize the smaller venues and turn tens of

00:13:15.500 thousands away because he just doesn't have a secret service he needs to even have adequate

00:13:19.500 or basic protection.

00:13:20.440 And that's because of the Biden-Harris control of the DHS in Mayorkas, who's a total globalist,

00:13:26.100 and the one that's running all the child-traveling and open borders.

00:13:29.780 And so they're doing that deliberately, just like they didn't give RFK Jr., even though

00:13:34.600 they killed his dad and uncle, the attorney general and the president, any coverage.

00:13:39.300 So they know exactly what they're doing.

00:13:42.240 And each time, and the evidence is overwhelming, it was the deep state, failed to kill him the

00:13:48.080 last few times.

00:13:48.780 It just gets more and more crazy from that point on.

00:13:53.100 And so that's really all they've got now is to try to assassinate him.

00:13:57.080 People ask, will Trump win?

00:13:58.200 There's a lot of information out there that goes into why I believe he will.

00:14:02.260 But if they know the landslide's so big that the fraud can't overpower that, they'll try 0.98

00:14:07.820 to kill him. 0.97

00:14:08.260 And that's why they've done it.

00:14:09.180 And if you follow the trajectory of them trying to block him in 2016, putting him under

00:14:13.660 investigation, all the fake dossiers, the lawfare, the impeachments, the indictments,

00:14:19.620 the kangaroo trial, the criminal conviction, it was easy to predict they'd try to assassinate 1.00

00:14:26.040 him, as you did, and as Tucker Carlson did, as I did, because that's the trajectory.

00:14:29.900 And then each time they fail, it becomes more desperate.

00:14:32.300 So it's good news, paradoxically, on one side, that all these different corrupt institutions

00:14:39.020 around the world, the leftist, globalist combine, is in so much trouble.

00:14:43.800 But again, they're a cornered animal.

00:14:45.200 So that's the paradox.

00:14:46.220 They're so dangerous now.

00:14:47.400 I think a lot of people have their opinion on Donald Trump, and they're really not going

00:14:51.480 to change it.

00:14:52.400 I think most conservative-leaning folks, they don't care about the lawfare, the charges,

00:14:57.260 the convictions, because they write that off as sort of sham trials.

00:15:00.800 And likewise, there's Trump haters.

00:15:03.740 They'll never vote for Trump.

00:15:05.360 I think a lot of Americans, it seems to me, are already set.

00:15:09.260 But Kamala Harris, she's not as well-known.

00:15:12.740 She was disliked.

00:15:14.020 She's dislikable. 0.93

00:15:15.140 She dropped out of the presidential primaries very early.

00:15:19.600 Less than 2%.

00:15:20.460 So they're trying to, by they, I'm talking about the regime media, the media-industrial

00:15:27.220 complex, they're trying to make her attractive and compelling, mainly by not having her do

00:15:34.640 interviews.

00:15:35.720 Do you think, do you think they'll succeed?

00:15:38.620 Do you think they'll make her, I find her very unlikable, do you think they can turn her 0.98

00:15:43.700 into a likable candidate?

00:15:45.100 They got a month.

00:15:46.680 It's really turned her into more of a joke.

00:15:49.500 They're just trying to convince us that they can convince some people, so if they're able

00:15:53.460 to steal it, it's believable.

00:15:54.700 That's why they had to get rid of Biden.

00:15:55.720 No one was going to believe that the Crip Keeper, who couldn't even string a sentence 1.00

00:16:00.040 together, actually was going to be able to win this.

00:16:02.500 So if they were able to steal it, they knew he wasn't believable.

00:16:04.960 That's why they had to get rid of him.

00:16:07.240 You talked about free speech.

00:16:08.700 I think 2016 was a free speech victory.

00:16:11.520 I think Trump won largely because of social media.

00:16:14.100 2020 was a censorship victory.

00:16:17.260 What's 2024 looking like?

00:16:18.720 You got Elon Musk really empowering people on Twitter, but you've got other social media

00:16:24.980 networks.

00:16:25.500 Who knows what they're doing?

00:16:26.500 Mark Zuckerberg claims he's neutral.

00:16:28.580 I don't know if I believe him.

00:16:30.300 Do you think it's going to be a freer election?

00:16:32.040 Do you think it's going to be fairer?

00:16:33.300 Do you think Republicans are more alert to the kind of ballot shenanigans that there were

00:16:37.140 last time?

00:16:37.680 Well, that's what goes into the calculus earlier.

00:16:39.700 I said a lot goes into it from all the different experts and different research we've done

00:16:43.200 looking at past polls, polls that are accurate, polling agencies that aren't.

00:16:47.580 Trump won in a landslide in 2016.

00:16:50.620 And because of that, the election fraud was like a seawall, but his landslide was so big,

00:16:56.480 he was able to still get in and handle it.

00:16:59.780 Then in 2020, because the Q stuff and Trump's invincible and everything's fine, a lot of folks

00:17:04.320 didn't really worry about it.

00:17:05.420 And Rasmussen and others that have been very accurate in the past predicted that he would

00:17:09.380 probably lose.

00:17:11.260 And I've talked to the head of Rasmussen polling.

00:17:13.020 He believes because of baked in fraud, Trump really won, but Trump won by a little.

00:17:17.620 So they will steal it.

00:17:19.060 Now, the Rasmussen head pollster is one of the most accurate out there, says that this is a

00:17:23.220 bigger landslide than 2016.

00:17:24.480 So again, that's why they tried to kill Trump, because of the fact that they know that he's

00:17:31.320 going to win.

00:17:32.840 And then you add that you've got Texas taking over a million illegal aliens and dead people

00:17:38.000 off the rolls.

00:17:39.220 North Carolina taking hundreds and hundreds of thousands off.

00:17:42.740 Nevada, hundreds of thousands off.

00:17:44.700 I mean, it's massive what they found.

00:17:48.300 And so, yeah, and Zuckerberg's still behind the scenes to a great extent, but he's not

00:17:51.180 as robust as he was.

00:17:52.640 So it's a lot of dead reckoning goes into that, Ezra.

00:17:54.540 But yes, everything's pointing towards a major Trump landslide, which will then look like

00:17:59.300 a narrow victory in my view. 0.99

00:18:01.980 And again, that's why they want to kill him.

00:18:04.200 I'm also worried for Elon Musk because he's, in his own way, just as provocative as Trump.

00:18:09.440 I can't believe some of the things he says on Twitter.

00:18:12.220 He's very different than most billionaire industrialists.

00:18:15.900 It's like Ezra Levant or Alex Jones who took a cross and took over his brain.

00:18:20.680 Now, he said, I mean, he uses hyperbole, but he can usually back it up.

00:18:24.940 And he's had hyperbolic success.

00:18:27.120 He said, this election is the do or die moment for the republic.

00:18:31.960 What do you think he meant by that?

00:18:33.420 And do you think he's right?

00:18:35.040 Well, he's totally right.

00:18:36.100 This is an existential crisis, which means a death battle.

00:18:39.180 It means America's very existence is on the line here.

00:18:45.200 We have powerful global financial forces backed by communist China and others that are on record

00:18:49.340 wanting to basically turn the United States into a vassal of the larger new order system.

00:18:56.280 And that's where we are, where America becomes a permanent, deep state-controlled, one-party state.

00:19:03.200 And just like Venezuela and now more and more Brazil, they'll still have elections,

00:19:08.300 but they'll be completely fraudulent.

00:19:10.660 You know, America has to do what's in its own interest.

00:19:14.100 But a lot of people around the world feel the result on November 5th will affect their interests, too.

00:19:19.480 I feel that way in Canada.

00:19:21.120 And I look around the world, and there's some countries that are more freedom-oriented or, let's say,

00:19:26.280 against mass immigration as well, against globalism, they're betting on Trump.

00:19:32.540 Whereas people who I regard as anti-American, it's sort of funny how anti-American countries like a weak U.S. president.

00:19:40.400 It makes perfect sense.

00:19:42.240 Who do you think is—play out for me just briefly scenarios.

00:19:46.280 Scenarios, God forbid Kamala Harris wins, what does China do? 1.00

00:19:51.400 What does Iran do?

00:19:52.800 What does the European Union do?

00:19:54.560 Versus if Trump wins, what do those same foreign powers do?

00:19:58.800 America has to do what's right in its own interest, but I know there's people around the world, their lives will change, too.

00:20:04.320 Well, I saw Hillary—it was from yesterday, but it was on the air today. 0.99

00:20:08.200 We talked about it.

00:20:09.980 And she's just lying as usual, in between calling for censorship and arresting people for speech and talking about black swans.

00:20:16.660 She said, oh, you know, the communist Chinese are for Trump.

00:20:20.860 And, oh, you know, Iran is for—no, Iran got caught hacking Trump's campaign.

00:20:29.160 Communist China dominates and funds a lot of our media in Hollywood.

00:20:32.880 It's all pro-Biden.

00:20:34.500 I mean, half the Democratic Party has been estimated he's on the communist Chinese payroll.

00:20:38.540 And so it's just absolutely imperative we get Trump in.

00:20:43.140 Trump is respected.

00:20:43.940 We had no major wars when he was in.

00:20:46.240 We had major peace deals because people respect a strong American president.

00:20:50.140 The world sees that.

00:20:52.540 And when Trump said, we're open for business again, all that business flooded back in until they launched COVID to try to block it

00:20:58.720 because America's not been open for business for 30, 40 years.

00:21:01.520 There's all these special deals to make sure it gets transferred to India or China or Mexico or 160 other developing or third-world countries.

00:21:09.100 And Trump discovered what we already knew, but he really got into it, that there were these middlemen, he said,

00:21:14.360 making more money than Americans or even the Chinese that had made the deals going back decades with the communist Chinese leadership and the generals

00:21:21.460 that control really that—they call it communist, but China's more like a fascist state.

00:21:26.400 It's the government corporations working together for a whole bunch of communist party leaders that are billionaires using their people as a slave state.

00:21:33.860 I mean, it's got communism as kind of its functioning government, but it's really more of a kleptocratic fascist state.

00:21:40.300 And so I keep going back to China over and over again because we've got major forces in the United States allied with them,

00:21:46.080 and that's where we transfer most of our jobs.

00:21:48.300 And so that's another reason.

00:21:50.480 Also, energy independence.

00:21:52.180 We became the biggest energy producer and exporter under Trump.

00:21:55.040 Then, of course, we slipped way back after Biden got in.

00:21:58.780 And inflation's already so bad and all of the endless quantitative easing so huge that Trump's not going to be able to totally reverse or stop inflation.

00:22:09.280 That's been going on for over 100 years, what's gotten us to this point.

00:22:13.000 But he'll be able to cheapen energy a lot.

00:22:15.720 He says probably cut it in half, and I agree with him.

00:22:17.460 And that itself will slow it and put a lot more money back in people's pockets to be able to get the economy going again.

00:22:23.400 But right now we really kind of have a scenario where it's more like stagflation, where we have a stagnant economy,

00:22:29.420 but also inflation, which is the worst possible economic situation to be in.

00:22:33.980 You'd be generous with your time.

00:22:35.340 I just have one last question.

00:22:36.580 It's a little more personal.

00:22:38.600 Tucker Carlson was thrown out of Fox.

00:22:41.180 He was the top guy on cable, but he's found sort of a second act on Twitter.

00:22:47.240 You were canceled on one day by 14 different social media companies.

00:22:54.640 Elon Musk has revived your Twitter account, which has just led to a renaissance.

00:23:00.260 I feel like free speech is the actual battleground in Canada.

00:23:06.740 Trudeau's bringing in a new censorship suite of laws.

00:23:09.280 Can you tell us about what they're trying to do to knock InfoWars off the air?

00:23:16.660 And if they're able to seize InfoWars, do you plan to continue to speak maybe on a different platform or in a different corporate entity?

00:23:26.260 Well, that's a great question, Ezra.

00:23:27.760 You kind of started the interview talking about free speech and Musk, and it's a good place to finish up.

00:23:32.480 But it's a huge, huge issue, obviously.

00:23:34.920 We can talk about it for hours.

00:23:36.140 But first off, Elon Musk is a total game changer.

00:23:39.900 He's done incredible things.

00:23:41.920 I don't think that we would have any chance of winning this election, much less be winning it right now, if it wasn't for Elon Musk.

00:23:48.240 And I believe he is, like you said, in just as much danger or more so than Trump.

00:23:52.640 Trump and Elon are two titans promoting liberty right now. 0.71

00:23:57.880 They have so much energy and so much intelligence versus Kamala, the puppet, and Biden, the zombie.

00:24:02.420 It's very paradoxical to see that.

00:24:06.020 And so, yes, it's come out in court.

00:24:08.220 The FBI created the fake lawsuits against me, had judges find me guilty, which is un-American and illegal, and then had show trials to send a message to everybody that will destroy you.

00:24:18.020 And they admitted on CNN and MSNBC that this was an example for everybody else.

00:24:22.620 So they're trying to set the precedent.

00:24:24.140 Now they've arrested the head of Telegram until he rolled over.

00:24:27.060 The EU wants to arrest Musk.

00:24:29.540 Brazil wants to.

00:24:31.100 The Australians talked about it.

00:24:33.060 So if they thought they had a problem with Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson, now they've had to move on to something like Elon Musk, who reaches conservatively.

00:24:42.400 I've tried to look at the numbers just on the videos and the post he puts up.

00:24:46.220 Easily 500 million people a day are seeing his videos and tweets and things he does.

00:24:50.660 And then that spread everywhere else.

00:24:51.880 He's able to punch through the news cycle and change the subject from the diversionary topics to really central topics, human trafficking, fentanyl, World War III, the national debt.

00:25:01.940 Just incredible things.

00:25:03.480 He's 90% of all satellites launching now is him.

00:25:06.060 He's brought us back into space dominance.

00:25:08.120 I mean, he's a maverick's maverick. 0.88

00:25:09.500 And I'm not here to kiss ass, but when I see something that's so spectacular and so game-changing, I'm just thanking God every day for Elon Musk. 0.97

00:25:15.660 I actually say prayers for Elon Musk and President Trump because, you know, Trump says this all the time. 0.96

00:25:20.040 And Elon hasn't said it yet, but I think he should because it's true.

00:25:22.700 They're not trying to get – they're not trying to destroy Trump.

00:25:25.340 They're trying to get through Trump to get to us.

00:25:27.440 And so they're trying to get through meetings with the people.

00:25:29.600 But I'm more junior to this, which is great.

00:25:31.660 I couldn't imagine being that targeted.

00:25:34.280 They are literally coming after those guys for everything they've got all because they're pro-team humanity, aren't for depopulation, don't want to make everybody poor to control them, and are just more laissez-faire type capitalists that believe in what made America so great.

00:25:46.460 And so InfoWars is up for sale in liquidation.

00:25:51.420 They've tried so many times to shut it down.

00:25:53.100 They didn't want to settle.

00:25:54.420 So the only path left was that.

00:25:56.600 So the judge said, okay, they wanted – the Democrat Party-controlled plaintiffs wanted it just closed.

00:26:03.280 But we went to federal court instead, so at least he'll allow it to be liquidated so that somebody outside who may be good can buy it, and then I can work for them.

00:26:10.380 And, you know, in the storage studios, 16 years in this one office, 30 years on air, we can continue on without a hiccup.

00:26:17.920 But that's coming up.

00:26:21.920 I am separately having to pay the legal bills even to defend InfoWars.

00:26:26.320 That's the way it works.

00:26:27.000 I'm completely out of money.

00:26:29.200 You know, regardless, obviously, I've got a lot of offers, a lot of places I can go work and do things.

00:26:32.500 But, you know, the system really sees this like as a Roman standard or capture the flag, and they also want to come in and get my intellectual property and then try to harass me further and try to take my material down off the web.

00:26:43.800 I knew that was their strategy months ago.

00:26:45.480 They've actually been in the news lately.

00:26:47.060 George Soros-funded Media Matters says they want to come in and get control of it and then harass me and harass others and just do a bunch of dirty tricks.

00:26:53.940 So there are some people that are pretty substantive that say they're going to bid on it.

00:26:58.340 Other people are welcome.

00:26:59.780 You can just search and, you know, you look into it and how to find the auction.

00:27:03.160 The Texas Federal Bankruptcy System of the Southern District of Texas.

00:27:07.060 I'm going to post soon.

00:27:09.220 We're 44 days out from the auction.

00:27:10.840 Some stuff on the side.

00:27:11.480 People want to go see it.

00:27:12.700 And if somebody buys it that, you know, comports with my free speech and what I want to do and, you know, sees what's happening, it's a successful company.

00:27:18.900 You never see companies going bankrupt because they're doing well.

00:27:23.940 And the people that don't want to settle with them if they want to sue, they don't want any amount of money.

00:27:27.520 And they've said that.

00:27:28.300 They turned down $70 million, you know, in a payout over the years.

00:27:32.300 And they said, no, we don't want that to the news.

00:27:34.480 We want him silenced.

00:27:35.480 So these are classic totalitarians.

00:27:37.000 They're not even hiding it anymore.

00:27:38.740 So people want to support what I'm doing.

00:27:41.760 There's a separate great sponsor that's been very supportive that's going to help us regardless going forward.

00:27:45.740 That's thealexjohnestore.com.

00:27:47.520 I don't own that, but some great folks at Bigley do that create some of the best Patriot T-shirts.

00:27:51.340 So we've got some classic shirts.

00:27:52.980 We've got a lot of new shirts.

00:27:53.900 They're really great designs.

00:27:54.800 Thealexjohnestore.com.

00:27:56.100 If people want to try to keep me on the air one way or another, they can get, there's a fundraiser shirt, classic InfoWars shirt.

00:28:01.580 That's the keep Alex Jones broadcast going shirt, save the Alex Jones broadcast shirt.

00:28:08.460 And so I'm very thankful to folks who do that.

00:28:09.920 But now is the time to try to back what we're doing over the years.

00:28:13.220 I've helped countless other people that are being censored and attacked.

00:28:15.640 And, you know, come to their aid.

00:28:17.520 And now I really am asking people to come to our aid at thealexjohnestore.com.

00:28:21.440 And they can also follow me on X.

00:28:23.000 Even, you know, they're trying to take my real Alex Jones.

00:28:25.740 The law says they can't.

00:28:26.740 But they're going to try.

00:28:27.620 And if I don't go fight that in court, they will win.

00:28:29.820 So it's just a war of attrition.

00:28:31.280 They want to punish me.

00:28:32.640 You know, the left thinks I got Trump elected.

00:28:34.420 I'm sure I was part of it, but everybody was.

00:28:36.220 And I take credit if I was the one that did it.

00:28:38.160 But that's how they see me.

00:28:39.960 And so they see me as a symbol they want to take down.

00:28:41.680 And at one level, I'm honored by that.

00:28:43.600 But there's a lot of important things happening now.

00:28:45.580 And people are now listening to us more than ever.

00:28:47.840 They know that most of what we predicted came true.

00:28:50.140 So InfoWars has more credibility than ever had.

00:28:52.640 So I think I'm entering the best phase of my career fighting tyranny.

00:28:56.540 So I would humbly ask the viewers and listeners to keep us in the game

00:28:59.260 and keep us in the fight.

00:29:00.340 And then they would do that by following me at Real Alex Jones,

00:29:03.060 supporting the sponsors, and getting a T-shirt or a ball cap

00:29:05.600 that's politically incorrect at thealexjohnestore.com.

00:29:08.220 You know, I was poking around.

00:29:09.880 You've got some great stuff in there, like really some fun designs,

00:29:13.460 thealexjohnestore.com.

00:29:15.020 Well, listen, I wish you well.

00:29:16.820 You were prophetic in many ways.

00:29:19.640 And prophets are often not recognized in their own time

00:29:22.880 because they say things that are uncomfortable to the establishment.

00:29:27.520 But even your phraseology, InfoWars, there's a battle on for your mind.

00:29:32.420 Those things which may have seemed far out 15 years ago,

00:29:36.680 how they've come true in recent years.

00:29:39.260 And I think one of the reasons I like you,

00:29:41.660 and I mean, I find you energetic and passionate and well-read,

00:29:45.600 but I think there's two kinds of errors someone can make in these days.

00:29:48.900 One is trust everything.

00:29:51.440 The other is trust nothing.

00:29:53.540 But if you had to choose between these two mistakes

00:29:56.460 to be an omniskeptic,

00:29:58.540 to put every conventional wisdom to the acid test,

00:30:02.420 that is the safer road to go in these insane times.

00:30:05.260 It definitely is.

00:30:06.280 And Ezra, I admire your great work over the years and Rebel.

00:30:08.600 And I know you guys have been through hell at Rebel News,

00:30:13.160 but you've stayed the course and gotten stronger.

00:30:15.660 And that's the thing is we've survived so long and thrived.

00:30:18.820 They've really gotten apoplectic and crazy wanting me off the air.

00:30:22.360 But it's even worse for Trump.

00:30:23.920 I mean, all they've done, imagine the frenzy now. 0.97

00:30:26.720 They're like degenerate gamblers.

00:30:29.200 We're going to get Trump this time. 0.95

00:30:30.520 We're going to get Trump this time.

00:30:31.700 Well, it's great to talk with you.

00:30:33.940 Thanks for hosting me in your beautiful studios.

00:30:36.700 And God willing, so I guess that's two days after the U.S. election is your auction day.

00:30:41.100 A few days after.

00:30:42.000 Yeah, well, that's very momentous.

00:30:43.380 We'll keep an eye on that.

00:30:44.100 Good luck to you.

00:30:44.720 Thank you, Ezra.

00:30:45.440 God bless.

00:30:45.980 Thank you.

00:30:46.660 Well, that's my interview with Alex Jones.

00:30:49.380 Stay where you are if you're interested in more,

00:30:51.520 because for the next two hours or about an hour and a half,

00:30:54.260 you'll see when I was interviewed by them.

00:30:57.000 All right, I'll say goodbye to you now, but enjoy the next hour and a half of my visit to InfoWars.

00:31:02.880 Well, it's been a couple of years since he's been in studio.

00:31:05.160 Seems like five minutes ago, but also a thousand years ago.

00:31:07.940 One of the most amazing independent journalists and owners of a media company in the world

00:31:13.840 is Ezra Levant, rebel.com, rebelnews.com, rebelnews.com, at Ezra Levant on X.

00:31:20.820 And I wanted to talk to him when I heard he was coming to town last week about Elon Musk

00:31:24.660 and the fight for free speech and everything that's happening.

00:31:27.440 He's also recently been to Brazil during a huge protest down there.

00:31:30.440 We've got a lot of great footage he's going to be showing you coming up.

00:31:33.620 But really, to this audience, nobody needs to have Ezra Levant introduced to them.

00:31:38.000 I mean, covering Davos, covering the wars, covering everything with reporters all over the planet,

00:31:44.880 fighting the COVID lockdowns there in Canada with the horrible leader Trudeau up there.

00:31:52.420 I mean, Ezra, you and your team are literally some of the most prolific and effective people out there.

00:31:58.960 It's great to have you here.

00:32:00.300 Thank you.

00:32:00.680 You were like the grandfather of contrarian, dissident media around the world.

00:32:06.100 And that's why we're so interested in your freedom of speech battles,

00:32:10.500 because if they can take out Alex Jones, they can take out anybody, because no one fights like you.

00:32:16.540 So if they can defeat you, well, then everyone's in jeopardy.

00:32:20.180 It's very interesting to us to follow what's happening.

00:32:22.980 Well, we're all in this together.

00:32:23.940 Exactly.

00:32:24.340 We've got to have solidarity.

00:32:25.500 And I know you genuinely care about me.

00:32:27.080 I care about you.

00:32:27.620 But when they're attacking Trump, they're attacking you.

00:32:29.880 They've attacked you a bunch and arrested your reporters and stuff, too, for everything.

00:32:32.500 I mean, this is an attack on us all.

00:32:34.000 And it's a globally coordinated.

00:32:36.840 You know, I was down in Sao Paulo, Brazil, a couple weeks ago.

00:32:40.360 Oh, sorry.

00:32:41.160 I'll wait for you to.

00:32:42.440 No, no, I'm just saying there's the camera.

00:32:43.640 Perfect.

00:32:44.400 No, no.

00:32:44.960 It's like a podcast style studio.

00:32:46.620 No problem.

00:32:47.380 I don't care the way.

00:32:48.060 We kind of need to put a camera over here.

00:32:49.780 It's great to be here.

00:32:51.340 Why did I go to Sao Paulo?

00:32:53.300 They had a more conservative, freedom-oriented president named Bolsonaro.

00:32:57.560 He was defeated by an outright communist named Lula.

00:33:01.000 And Lula started banning his political opponents and contrarian journalists on Twitter.

00:33:06.580 And he had a judge who would do this.

00:33:09.020 And the judge would do it in secret and would order Elon Musk to suspend the critics of Lula

00:33:14.520 in secret.

00:33:16.020 And then Twitter finally said, we're not obeying this anymore.

00:33:18.880 We're not going to follow this illegal censorship.

00:33:20.820 So this judge banned Twitter in the entire country, 20 million people.

00:33:26.580 And that's the Count Dracula lookalike guy.

00:33:28.140 Yeah.

00:33:28.560 He wears a cape.

00:33:30.460 Who wears a cape?

00:33:31.440 So in Sao Paulo, which is a huge city, 20 million people, they had a rally for free speech and

00:33:38.720 for Elon Musk and for Twitter.

00:33:42.540 That's some of the footage we took when we were there.

00:33:45.020 200,000 people marched for free speech.

00:33:49.600 I've never been inside of 200.

00:33:50.840 That looks like more than 200,000.

00:33:52.060 Oh, it was, it extended a mile in every direction.

00:33:57.360 It was incredible.

00:33:59.240 And, and Bolsonaro was there.

00:34:01.340 And then you pointed out, then the dictator, evidence shows, stole the election.

00:34:04.700 Lula had no one for his event.

00:34:06.480 Yeah.

00:34:06.720 And there's that Dracula, like, that's the judge, the guy in the cape there.

00:34:10.720 I mean, he, he really is slouching back to tyranny.

00:34:15.240 Remember, they were a military dictatorship just 40 years ago.

00:34:17.980 So the idea that it, you know, you can lose, you can gain freedom, but Brazil is falling

00:34:23.580 back.

00:34:23.960 What's so exciting though, is ordinary people of all backgrounds saying, no, this is about 0.99

00:34:28.380 freedom.

00:34:28.840 People go to a rally for a bunch of reasons, Alex, for the camaraderie, maybe for partisan

00:34:33.220 feelings.

00:34:34.260 But so many people at that rally, when I asked them, why are you here?

00:34:38.900 They said freedom.

00:34:40.220 It was inspiring.

00:34:41.140 Alex, I got to ask you, do you think there's a city in the United States where 200,000 people

00:34:45.720 would rally for freedom?

00:34:46.720 I would like to.

00:34:47.600 Only in D.C. for our Trump rally.

00:34:49.340 Yeah.

00:34:49.920 And then they tried to set us up, or did, with January 6th.

00:34:52.860 We, I, I did some street, there's not a lot of folks down there speak English, but if

00:34:56.800 you guys have the clip, I talked to some folks down there, I found it was inspirational.

00:35:01.620 If you, if you got the clip, I'd love to.

00:35:02.940 Yeah, let's go ahead and roll the clip with audio.

00:35:04.360 Go ahead.

00:35:04.600 Here it is.

00:35:05.000 Why am I being in trouble because I'm using X to the VPN?

00:35:16.080 Why are you for, for another country?

00:35:18.000 You are in Brazil.

00:35:19.040 It's okay.

00:35:19.820 Do you use social media?

00:35:21.620 Yes, I use, I use, I use, I use to, my favorite was Twitter, like X, but now I'm using Blue Sky,

00:35:30.320 Instagram, TikTok, I use a lot of social media.

00:35:33.480 So you stopped using X when it was banned by the government?

00:35:36.840 I stopped it because more I stopped us.

00:35:40.460 Elon Musk has stood up to Alexandre de Moraes very noisily and he's pushed back.

00:35:47.040 What do you think of that?

00:35:48.720 I think it's good for Brazil because he's not Brazilian, but he's gonna help us a lot.

00:35:56.660 Up.

00:35:57.320 Use up.

00:35:57.700 You use X?

00:35:58.600 X?

00:35:58.980 Eu usava, só agora foi bloqueado, então você pode ver que eu tenho ele aqui, só que é bloqueado,

00:36:03.580 a gente não pode usar mais. 1.00

00:36:05.460 It's banned, it's blocked.

00:36:06.980 Aqui, ó, eu tenho um X, só que a gente não pode usar mais. 0.99

00:36:10.460 Tá bloqueado, então eu uso o VPN.

00:36:12.740 Você usa o VPN?

00:36:14.360 Se eu falar isso, perigoso ser multado.

00:36:16.320 Então é 50 mil.

00:36:17.320 Se eu falar isso, se eu falar que eu uso o VPN, eu sou sujeito para um fine de 50 mil reais,

00:36:23.700 que seria um 10 mil do fine.

00:36:25.940 Mas ele não dá um jeitinho.

00:36:27.460 Nós estamos aqui porque ele nos mandou falar na maior plataforma do Brasil,

00:36:36.160 so we are here to fight for this platform and our freedom of speech.

00:36:41.720 I love Elon Musk.

00:36:43.580 I love Elon Musk.

00:36:46.320 Brasil, love Elon Musk.

00:36:48.740 Thank you.

00:36:49.580 Bye.

00:36:49.920 If you had one message you could send to Elon Musk today, what would it be?

00:36:55.780 We are on your side.

00:36:57.380 How do you feel about Elon Musk?

00:36:59.260 He's taken a great interest in Brazil.

00:37:01.540 I love Elon Musk.

00:37:03.280 Oh, love Elon Musk.

00:37:05.480 He's helping us so much.

00:37:08.240 I hope so, because he has a lot of power, a lot of money, a lot of everything.

00:37:13.860 I hope he can help us.

00:37:16.540 You trust him a lot.

00:37:19.260 If you had one message for the owner of X, Elon Musk, what would it be?

00:37:26.260 Brazil, we need to fight for our future and we need to stop more ice.

00:37:31.940 Elon Musk, thank you for fighting for our freedom.

00:37:36.360 We are with you.

00:37:38.080 Thank you very much.

00:37:39.960 You are friend of Brazilian people.

00:37:43.620 Elon Musk, help us, please, please.

00:37:48.360 Musk, fica firme, não desanima, nos ajuda, porque o Brasil precisa de você e o mundo precisa de você,

00:37:54.320 porque a gente precisa de liberdade e você é um guerreiro, é um lutador.

00:37:57.760 Para nós é de grande importância pelo que você está fazendo, não pelo dinheiro.

00:38:01.940 Certo?

00:38:02.540 Mas pelo que você é.

00:38:03.860 Então, isso nos orgulha muito.

00:38:05.280 Então, meu, feliz demais, Pedro Musk.

00:38:07.200 And again, whether you're in Australia, whether you're in Europe, wherever you are, these fights are important because it's the same globalists doing it.

00:38:16.660 And now Elon Musk came out yesterday and said, if Trump is not elected, this is a quote, this will be the last election.

00:38:22.500 And it'll be like Venezuela or now like Brazil, where they still have them, but it's known to be fraudulent.

00:38:28.200 And now we have John Kerry and Hillary and all of them saying ban free speech, arrest people.

00:38:33.940 You got California passing, you know, their so-called AI law that outlaws memes.

00:38:37.600 They are really desperate.

00:38:38.980 I don't see that as a sign of strength out of the tyrants in the U.K., I mean, everywhere.

00:38:44.000 Well, remember, Sherlock Holmes would ask, what's the dog that's not barking?

00:38:48.480 So if Elon Musk and Twitter are being banned from Brazil because they refuse to secretly censor the enemies of the regime,

00:38:55.680 what about Meta, which owns Instagram, Facebook, and What's Up?

00:38:59.260 What about the...

00:39:00.420 They're all complying.

00:39:01.280 Well, that's right.

00:39:02.560 The fact that only Elon Musk is being targeted tells us implicitly that all the others are playing along with it.

00:39:08.500 And that's happening in regimes around the world.

00:39:10.900 And that's come out in Congress that millions of requests by the government on Facebook, now Meta, and Instagram,

00:39:17.560 one of their holdings, to censor people questioning the COVID narrative.

00:39:20.660 And it turned out we were right, they were wrong.

00:39:22.600 You know, one of the things they did to get back at Elon Musk, because, of course, he owns Twitter,

00:39:26.380 but they couldn't really touch Twitter, is they started going after Starlink, the internet company,

00:39:33.180 which is really for people in rural places.

00:39:36.160 And Brazil is so huge, and there's a big Amazon jungle.

00:39:39.300 So Starlink is critically important for a lot of small towns, villages, hospitals, schools in the Amazon.

00:39:44.820 And that crazy cape-wearing judge, because they couldn't smash Elon Musk and Twitter, 0.89

00:39:52.160 they went after Starlink, even though it's a completely different company,

00:39:55.140 with largely different shareholders.

00:39:57.440 And what got me, Alex, is where is the United States defending its companies, its property, its people?

00:40:04.040 The U.S. Trade Representative is one of the most terrifying people in the world.

00:40:08.040 That person gets tough with countries that cheat on American industry.

00:40:13.340 Why didn't the President of the United States say,

00:40:16.020 you unhand that Starlink property in 24 hours?

00:40:19.260 Instead.

00:40:19.640 Or don't you think you're going to fly planes to this country?

00:40:23.120 We're going to freeze your currency.

00:40:25.340 I don't even know what levers they could pull.

00:40:27.900 But I don't know why they allowed one of America's leading citizens to basically have his property expropriated without a squawk. 1.00

00:40:34.600 And you're hitting something here.

00:40:35.780 We have Australia.

00:40:36.600 We have the EU.

00:40:37.620 We have Brazil.

00:40:39.000 We have the Democratic Party and the different federal agencies already coming after Musk,

00:40:42.540 because he really is a champion of free speech.

00:40:45.920 And, you know, just a year ago, people were tepidly saying, okay, he's helping us.

00:40:48.860 But, I mean, the guy, now if you read his post, it reached hundreds of millions a day.

00:40:52.480 He is as hardcore as we are.

00:40:54.460 It's incredible to see the evolution.

00:40:56.120 I was skeptical of him 10 years ago.

00:40:57.840 I thought, oh, this guy is a grant seeker.

00:40:59.880 He's looking for subsidies for his eco car.

00:41:02.060 I was skeptical.

00:41:03.240 But give the man credit.

00:41:04.480 And the more wealthy he becomes, some people get shy when they're wealthy.

00:41:08.360 They think, I don't want to risk it.

00:41:09.840 I don't want to alienate powers that be.

00:41:12.160 Elon Musk is relishing his powers.

00:41:14.540 Well, he said it was his brother almost dying from a shot and a bunch of family getting sick from it.

00:41:18.780 And then he sent his son to a super liberal school that his, you know, ex-girlfriend or baby mama wanted.

00:41:25.020 And then they basically turned, you know, he said his son is dead.

00:41:27.840 So he's been public.

00:41:29.380 He said, look, I didn't believe all this.

00:41:31.460 I was more of a liberal. 0.98

00:41:32.600 Now I realize that the left is a tyranny and it's a mind virus and I'm done. 0.96

00:41:36.740 I mean, so you'd think the left would be smart enough not to scalp his son. 0.94

00:41:40.300 You'd think they'd be, no, they targeted him.

00:41:42.380 So he is a convert through being abused.

00:41:46.020 And I'm worried about that because they took you out.

00:41:50.060 They took Tucker Carlson out.

00:41:51.640 They're trying to take Trump out using lawfare, using, God forbid, violence against the president.

00:41:58.260 Elon Musk not only is fighting for his own freedom, but he has in a way socially and journalistically revived you from the dead.

00:42:07.160 Absolutely.

00:42:07.620 He's created a giant mothership for all these other people to be able to have a beachhead.

00:42:13.960 I mean, I don't have enough to say about him.

00:42:17.340 I mean, it's, I can't say enough.

00:42:19.720 It's, it's, it's just insane.

00:42:21.980 You judge a tree by its fruits.

00:42:23.820 Elon Musk is hitting on all cylinders and it's just as important as Trump is.

00:42:27.680 And, and, and when I told him, I said, you need to get more security.

00:42:30.220 He said, I will.

00:42:30.940 He goes, I agree.

00:42:32.020 When I, me and Tucker talked about it, he responded and reached with it and said, absolutely doubling it now because he understands.

00:42:37.520 And that's why he moves around a lot.

00:42:39.140 He's had a lot of threats.

00:42:40.220 People have come to Austin a bunch to try to kill him.

00:42:42.980 I believe that.

00:42:44.120 And you know what I like about him is he, he, I mean, no man is perfect.

00:42:48.060 And, you know, they say, don't put your trust in princes and don't put all your eggs in one basket.

00:42:51.960 But I mean, he is as close to the essential man as it gets.

00:42:55.660 A lot of things turn on him.

00:42:56.960 I mean, I was reading the other day that SpaceX is responsible for 90% of all Earth payloads into space.

00:43:03.880 If it weren't for SpaceX, China would be number one.

00:43:05.960 Russia would be number two.

00:43:07.500 India.

00:43:08.080 And only after that would that, the Boeing consortium.

00:43:10.500 America didn't even have heavy lifters for 15 years.

00:43:13.920 Now we have the biggest heavy lifter.

00:43:15.900 And when, so when Elon Musk says this election, if it's, if Trump doesn't win its lights out, that sounds like hyperbole.

00:43:22.960 But not only does Musk consume an enormous amount of information, he must have his own sort of private, almost like a security info trap line.

00:43:32.340 I'm sure he knows things that we don't, that are not public knowledge.

00:43:35.900 When he says something that grave, I don't think it's just him being mischievous.

00:43:40.480 I think he, he's got, he, he's got a bunch of national security clearances.

00:43:43.600 Yeah, you've got to.

00:43:45.500 I mean, he, besides Starlink, there's Star Shield.

00:43:48.080 That's his military aspect of SpaceX.

00:43:51.620 He's, that, you know what, people have been talking in, in European countries, they've been threatening to arrest him.

00:43:57.780 Keir Starmer, the Labour Prime Minister, the new Labour Prime Minister in the UK, has been quarreling head to head, butting heads with Elon Musk.

00:44:05.720 And has suggested that people overseas from the UK, who were retweeting some of the race riots a couple months ago, they could face charges too.

00:44:14.860 Remember that European Union poobah, who wrote the letter before Elon Musk, Trump, and said, don't you say rough things in your trunk. 0.51

00:44:23.100 Well, what about the arrest of the telegram head?

00:44:26.580 Oh, exactly.

00:44:27.680 They would do that to Musk if they could.

00:44:30.000 The lad's got to be careful with himself.

00:44:32.500 I mean, protect Elon Musk at all costs.

00:44:35.080 Absolutely.

00:44:36.120 Talking about you guys at Rebel, Canada has descended a beautiful country, wonderful people, but they're, like Americans, think they're free, so tyranny is able to take over.

00:44:45.860 The trucker convoys, your people being arrested, not just biological men in girls' sports, 60-year-old men in high school girls' swim teams.

00:44:55.660 I mean, it's not just like, oh, I'm a girl.

00:44:57.640 No, no, no, now I can compete against little girls. 1.00

00:45:00.220 I mean, it's just madness.

00:45:01.740 You guys are just constantly nailing it.

00:45:03.560 You know, we're trying to fight the good fight.

00:45:06.180 Again, InfraWars is the inspiration.

00:45:08.240 We're like a mini-Canadian version of that.

00:45:10.040 I don't know about mini.

00:45:11.420 My God, I've seen you get hundreds of millions per story.

00:45:14.160 You know, I have this dream, Alex, of that one day you'll come with me to Davos for the World Economic Forum.

00:45:18.880 I'll go.

00:45:19.480 You know what?

00:45:20.400 You wouldn't, we don't get credentialed.

00:45:22.180 We don't get past the drawbridge.

00:45:24.520 But they come outside the castle.

00:45:25.720 That's right, and these VVIPs, I call them, they're in their safe place.

00:45:30.680 It's because it's hard to get to Davos.

00:45:32.780 You've got to fly to Zurich.

00:45:33.880 You've got to take the train up.

00:45:35.000 You've got to, and they book up literally every hotel room and Airbnb in town.

00:45:39.760 So they make it hard to get there.

00:45:42.320 And once you're there, the only other, there's a lot of media there, Alex, but they're all regime media.

00:45:47.700 They all sponsored.

00:45:48.660 They all paid hundreds of thousands to be there.

00:45:51.240 So the only people who can ask a question that's independent are the street rabble like us.

00:45:58.200 You would, and the thing is, you'd be like a kid in the candy store.

00:46:01.300 The entire globalist elite meets.

00:46:03.500 They walk around without bodyguards.

00:46:05.360 Now, there's a ton of Swiss police there.

00:46:07.020 Don't get me wrong.

00:46:08.040 It's high security.

00:46:09.140 But they're not like police in Canada.

00:46:12.300 They will let you get right up to VVIPs and put a microphone to them as long as you don't touch them.

00:46:17.520 As long as you don't.

00:46:18.140 Klaus Schwab, Albert Borla.

00:46:19.980 Oh, yeah.

00:46:20.480 I mean, when I bumped into Albert Borla, he was just walking with his assistant, and I scrummed him in close quarters for five minutes.

00:46:27.200 The police watched.

00:46:28.280 Oh, they were watching.

00:46:29.140 Don't make a mistake about it.

00:46:30.620 But they were fine with it.

00:46:32.100 And, you know, it's John Kerry, Tony Blair.

00:46:36.940 It's fun to catch the U.S. Republicans there.

00:46:40.460 I caught up with a couple senators and governors, and I always said, what are you doing here?

00:46:44.240 What's a Republican doing here?

00:46:45.800 And some of them are shy.

00:46:47.140 Some of them try and sort of run away.

00:46:48.780 I don't know if you saw it.

00:46:49.620 I bumped into the president of the Bill and Melinda Gates.

00:46:53.680 Oh, I watched it all, yeah.

00:46:55.060 And you would be, I tell you, you'd be like a hot knife through butter.

00:46:58.560 It's my goal is to get you to come with me.

00:47:00.320 You'd love it.

00:47:00.960 I'll go.

00:47:01.480 I'll go next time.

00:47:02.520 What is it, January?

00:47:03.580 It's always in January.

00:47:05.000 We're sending a team again.

00:47:06.200 It's, you know, it's a journey.

00:47:08.100 And you're running around on the streets, and it's cold.

00:47:10.580 But you get your steps.

00:47:11.540 Well, I've always wanted to see Switzerland.

00:47:12.940 I've been around Europe a lot, but never Switzerland.

00:47:15.260 Expand on this, though.

00:47:18.540 Pulling back, because you're a guy that's been all over the world and seen things.

00:47:21.740 How would you describe the state of the world right now?

00:47:25.280 And I would answer the question in my way, and then get your take on it.

00:47:27.540 What was the theme, the official theme of that event this year?

00:47:31.820 It was regaining trust.

00:47:33.660 And I watched the Clinton Foundation.

00:47:34.960 They say, everybody hates us.

00:47:35.940 Nobody believes us.

00:47:37.260 Corporate media has a less than 10% approval rating, just like our Congress, just like,

00:47:41.320 you know, Trudeau was able to get in with less than 20% of the vote because they do all

00:47:45.460 these manipulations.

00:47:46.220 But they are unpopular.

00:47:47.440 The world really is waking up.

00:47:49.600 But instead, they're coming in to try to outlaw and officially just normalize tyranny.

00:47:55.860 How would you describe the state of the world right now?

00:47:59.120 It's the worst I've ever seen.

00:48:00.380 And here's, let me prove that to you.

00:48:02.060 In America, you've got Kamala Harris or Joe Biden or a Politburo that we don't know running

00:48:06.880 things.

00:48:07.900 They're for censorship.

00:48:09.720 They're for lawfare.

00:48:11.260 In the UK, they just elected Keir Starmer, a labor extremist who wants to go even farther.

00:48:18.020 In Canada, you've got Trudeau.

00:48:20.200 In Ireland and Scotland, you're bringing in censorship laws all around the world.

00:48:24.960 The bad guys are working.

00:48:26.400 It's like the supervillains league.

00:48:28.520 And that's why Trump's, the election in November 5th is such a watershed.

00:48:34.660 Everything turns on it, not just in America, but in Canada, the knock-on effects in the

00:48:39.920 UK.

00:48:40.720 And I know America is for Americans.

00:48:43.680 But I also know as a Canadian that we look up to America to be the great champion of freedom,

00:48:49.240 the exemplar.

00:48:50.420 And what do we do?

00:48:51.660 How do we fight back if you guys succumb?

00:48:54.080 Don't do it for us.

00:48:55.280 Do it for yourself.

00:48:55.920 Well, I agree.

00:48:56.340 But there's also the World War III issue.

00:48:57.940 The U.S. elites are running the Ukraine war.

00:49:00.520 Russia said two weeks ago, we're going to nuke you if you hit us with missiles.

00:49:05.560 I mean, this is all insane.

00:49:07.560 I mean, the time we're in, Ezra, I know you understand this, but maybe elaborate.

00:49:11.560 I have trouble believing it's gotten this crazy.

00:49:13.740 I mean, we're living in very insane times.

00:49:18.120 You know, I grew up believing the narrative of the neocons.

00:49:23.460 It was, I believed it.

00:49:24.840 It seemed right to me.

00:49:26.340 But when Trump ruled without a new war, with only peace, with harmony, and actually making

00:49:31.720 the Abraham Accords peace deal, it felt utopian.

00:49:36.300 And I think when you think about the trillions of dollars that will turn on Trump's election

00:49:41.500 and national board, if Trump is, why did Zelensky meet with Trump last week?

00:49:46.560 Because he knows there's a real chance Trump's going to be president.

00:49:49.520 He wants to start that conversation.

00:49:51.140 But look how glum he was in the press conference.

00:49:54.180 Everyone knows.

00:49:55.060 Ukraine knows it.

00:49:55.820 Russia knows it.

00:49:56.600 Everyone knows it.

00:49:57.260 If Trump is elected, that war will be over in a month.

00:50:00.660 And you know who will benefit by that?

00:50:02.460 Hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children.

00:50:05.740 But think of the industries that will fail.

00:50:08.880 There is a deep state, and it's military, and it's journalistic, and it's political,

00:50:13.680 and Trump is the threat to it as never before.

00:50:17.120 That's why his win is so essential.

00:50:18.840 And I say this as a foreigner begging America to save itself and thereby save the world.

00:50:24.160 What did you, what was the first thing that ran through your mind when Trump got grazed

00:50:30.120 with that bullet two and a half months ago in Butler, Pennsylvania, and then the latest 0.79

00:50:33.500 one with another U.S.-Ukrainian-trained CIA-connected lunatic at his golf course?

00:50:39.940 My heart, I could feel it pounding.

00:50:42.740 I was so scared.

00:50:44.080 But when he stood up and showed he was okay, the relief, the terror and the relief all in

00:50:50.160 a matter of seconds.

00:50:52.120 And it was horrific because I had been worrying about that.

00:50:56.820 I know you had too.

00:50:58.560 Because in history, assassinations work.

00:51:03.460 They work.

00:51:04.140 They're evil. 0.97

00:51:04.780 They're immoral. 0.97

00:51:05.760 They're anti-human, but they work. 0.81

00:51:08.220 Think of the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand and what that said in motion.

00:51:11.600 World War I.

00:51:12.200 And, you know, murdering people in, they almost killed Bolsonaro.

00:51:17.600 I don't know if you remember. 0.59

00:51:18.260 Oh, the big monster knife.

00:51:19.460 They put, he lost half of his blood with a knife.

00:51:22.940 And, I mean, in America itself with four assassinations.

00:51:26.260 And I'm worried about Trump because he's, you know, he's bold and he loves those huge rallies.

00:51:32.440 And when there was that second and third attempt on him, I thought, come on, this can't be happening.

00:51:37.240 And I, but there are people who would do anything.

00:51:41.200 Countries are in the balance.

00:51:42.560 Trillions are in the balance.

00:51:44.320 That's why I'm worried for him and for Elon Musk.

00:51:46.280 Oh, no doubt.

00:51:46.940 Each time they try to kill him and it fails, it only makes them want him more.

00:51:50.780 You know, I saw Hillary Clinton a moment ago talking about the October surprise.

00:51:55.980 Yeah.

00:51:56.460 I mean, it will be engineered.

00:51:58.060 It will be manufactured.

00:51:59.000 Whether it's by a foreign entity or a domestic enemy, they will do anything.

00:52:04.300 One of the things that we're talking about a lot at the last World Economic Forum meeting I went to in Davos, the two names on everyone's mouth were Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

00:52:12.780 The second because it enabled the first.

00:52:14.780 But the big theme was AI.

00:52:16.980 You know, every country was pushing AI.

00:52:19.660 And one of the things they do is they want AI to use, you know, the algorithm to automatically censor things.

00:52:26.180 But in a way you don't even know you're censored.

00:52:27.980 You think you're broadcasting to the world.

00:52:29.720 But AI is basically meaning that only you, you're shouting into the abyss.

00:52:34.380 And I'm worried that AI will censor us and we won't even know it.

00:52:37.480 Talk about a simulation.

00:52:38.840 We'll have a simulation within a simulation.

00:52:40.800 We won't even know that we're being censored.

00:52:42.880 That's my fear.

00:52:43.920 And I got that fear when I went to Davos.

00:52:45.720 Well, they admit, the U.N. said last week, as you know, they've got this big global compact that we're going to protect you from disinformation, people will tell the truth, and AI with global AI.

00:52:56.420 I want to talk to you after the break about the news license that Trudeau has in Canada, and the courts ruled we don't get it.

00:53:03.300 I'd love to tell you that story.

00:53:04.400 Oh, wow.

00:53:04.920 A news license.

00:53:06.060 So they're saying you don't get your license?

00:53:07.240 We don't get a news license.

00:53:08.300 I'll tell you what that means.

00:53:09.620 Wow.

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00:53:19.700 What got you to Austin?

00:53:21.400 You know what?

00:53:21.800 I wanted to see how you were doing.

00:53:22.980 I was worried about the news.

00:53:24.080 I heard about the auction.

00:53:25.040 I wanted to talk to you about it.

00:53:26.040 Did you fly all the way here from Canada?

00:53:27.420 I did.

00:53:27.960 I am.

00:53:28.400 Wow.

00:53:28.600 We've got to get to see on the other shows.

00:53:29.580 You've got to.

00:53:29.980 Wow.

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00:54:33.340 43 days, 12 hours, 26 minutes, 24 seconds, the most important election in world history, and then 76 days with President Trump being President-elect.

00:54:47.480 You know, a lot of people, when they tried to kill Trump again a few weeks ago, thought it was like entertainment, like we're watching a drama or a cop show or a thriller.

00:54:56.580 No, this is the real world, and I've been on air over 30 years, 30 and a half years now.

00:55:01.600 And I like to sleep.

00:55:06.920 I used to sleep seven, eight hours.

00:55:07.940 No problem.

00:55:08.320 I sleep like five hours now.

00:55:09.700 I jump out of bed because of the epicness of everything and the fact that good is rising but evil is rising and just so much is happening.

00:55:18.600 And you can see the fear in the globalist whole BlackRock, you know, big pharma system, but they're not giving up and they're doubling down.

00:55:27.060 And they've been pre-programming cyber attacks and power outages and terror attacks and just assassination attempts and just all of this insanity.

00:55:37.040 And then people seem so focused only on their country.

00:55:43.260 People say, why do you care so much about Brazil?

00:55:44.840 Well, it's the sixth most populous country in the world.

00:55:46.320 Or why do you care about Canada?

00:55:47.800 Or why do you care about Australia?

00:55:49.080 Because we have the same enemy, the same programs, the same brainwashing, the same transgenderism, the same attacks that are going on because these big corporations want full control. 0.98

00:56:00.140 They want weak, stupid people, and we just can't turn the world over to them, and then we start having such success, that makes me even more urgent because so many people that fight for liberty don't get to see the freedom in their lifetime. 0.97

00:56:13.160 And then later, you know, for future generations, their actions have an effect. 0.99

00:56:16.740 We're seeing it in real time and in humanity struggling back so hard.

00:56:20.580 And General Flynn yesterday made the point that we have the initiative.

00:56:23.600 Humanity has the – and I'm on the air with Elon Musk in two-plus-hour interviews and others.

00:56:27.800 And Elon, call it Team Humanity.

00:56:29.960 Yes, Alex, we're on Team Humanity versus, you know, Team Demon.

00:56:33.260 I mean, this is epic, Ezra Levant.

00:56:35.580 You know, there's another reason to study other countries is why I do it, is to see what's coming to hit us.

00:56:40.820 Exactly, yeah.

00:56:41.720 Give me an example from Ireland.

00:56:42.860 I was in Ireland a couple of years ago.

00:56:43.540 Oh, wow.

00:56:43.860 Talk about that.

00:56:44.720 There's a small village named Dundrum, but the most beautiful place I've ever been to in my life.

00:56:49.220 Oh, I'm not Irish, but I wish I was just to be there.

00:56:52.580 200 people in Dundrum.

00:56:53.840 The government announced to them, told them, didn't ask them, we're bringing 280 migrants to your town of 200 people immediately in one fell swoop, making the Irish a minority in their own community.

00:57:06.220 Can you imagine?

00:57:07.160 These are military-aged men, single men.

00:57:10.440 With no job, no future.

00:57:11.700 And they're fake refugees. 1.00

00:57:13.660 No one is a refugee in Ireland.

00:57:14.880 They make their way across Europe, cross the channel into the UK, go into Northern Ireland, and then walk across the border, shredding their passports. 0.96

00:57:23.420 They get free everything.

00:57:24.960 And the Irish government, for some weird reason, has this policy of overwhelming local communities.

00:57:30.460 Well, it's replacement migration.

00:57:31.580 They do the same thing in Germany, everywhere.

00:57:33.320 You know, the word replacement migration, you know, the left is trying to demonize that as a conspiracy theory.

00:57:38.020 There is a United Nations study 20 years ago called Replacement Migration.

00:57:42.640 2000.

00:57:43.040 It's their own study.

00:57:45.040 It's their own thesis.

00:57:46.660 But it's crazy to see that.

00:57:49.560 And this whole thing in Springfield, Ohio, felt a little bit like that Dundrum situation.

00:57:53.980 Why are you overwhelming a local community?

00:57:57.600 Absolutely up a...

00:57:58.520 Well, you take them over, because then the government funds come in.

00:58:01.400 Now you have a group that never gets a job.

00:58:03.040 80-plus percent of the migrants don't in Europe.

00:58:05.200 And now it's a takeover.

00:58:07.480 You know, and where do you put 280 migrants in a village of 200?

00:58:11.240 Well, there's this beautiful country hotel, golf club.

00:58:15.040 It was like the community center.

00:58:16.420 Everyone had their weddings and events there.

00:58:18.380 They cut a deal with that guy.

00:58:20.380 And the deal is secret.

00:58:21.580 We don't know how much money.

00:58:22.660 We don't know how long it's for.

00:58:24.440 Suddenly, the whole center of the community, it was for cash.

00:58:27.860 It was just someone made a deal to house migrants there and Dundrum...

00:58:31.860 And it's the state departments of the different countries everywhere that are financing this with our tax money.

00:58:36.400 It's just crazy to see Ireland never colonized anybody.

00:58:39.280 Ireland doesn't have to apologize.

00:58:40.860 It's not, you know, it doesn't have to...

00:58:43.280 It's innocent of imperialism.

00:58:45.020 Yeah, in fact, I don't know if you know, let me tell you a quick story about a village named Baltimore.

00:58:49.840 I don't know if you know the story of Baltimore.

00:58:51.600 Tell folks.

00:58:52.060 Ireland, a couple hundred years ago, the entire village of Baltimore was raided by Islamic slave traders.

00:59:03.560 They sailed up to Baltimore, took every man, woman, child, and baby, kidnapped them, and took them back to Arabia as white slaves. 0.92

00:59:13.860 The entire town...

00:59:15.420 Guys, pull up the story.

00:59:16.560 I've read about this.

00:59:17.420 I forgot about it.

00:59:18.240 Of Baltimore, Ireland, and slavery.

00:59:20.800 People don't know that slavery's been around forever, but the Atlantic slave trade, all that was picked up from the Muslims. 0.91

00:59:26.780 The Moors invaded Spain and other areas to get more slaves, and they brought them all over North Africa, all over the Middle East, 1.00

00:59:34.700 and even shipped them out to Islamic countries as far away as Indonesia.

00:59:38.660 I mean, this is an ongoing thing, but where is that on the news?

00:59:41.740 Most people don't even know.

00:59:42.520 Tell people more about Baltimore, Ireland.

00:59:43.720 More people were captured by these Islamic slave raids than were African slaves sent to North America.

00:59:51.920 That's a fact, just in terms of sheer numbers.

00:59:55.660 And I guess the reason I mention that is Ireland has been sort of resisting bad things for centuries,

01:00:02.060 and now they just sort of throw open the doors.

01:00:04.480 I just find it astonishing, and to see how the immigration issue is wedded to the censorship issue.

01:00:12.060 I'm going to read this to TV.

01:00:13.500 There it is.

01:00:15.500 I'm sorry to interrupt.

01:00:16.460 If you type in Baltimore, Ireland, slavery, it says,

01:00:20.580 In 1861, the village of Baltimore in West Cork, Ireland, was raided by pirates of Turkish soldiers,

01:00:27.260 resulting in the capture and enslavement of all of its residents.

01:00:32.560 The sack of Baltimore on Wikipedia, we can show it there.

01:00:35.280 I mean, but no one knows about that because only white people were ever involved in slavery in history.

01:00:41.140 Ezra, sorry to interrupt you.

01:00:41.800 Go ahead.

01:00:42.000 You know the battle hymn of the Republic from the halls of Montezuma?

01:00:45.560 To the shores of Tripoli.

01:00:46.780 That's when the president at the time, who wrote our Constitution, wrote our Bill of Rights,

01:00:54.200 Declaration of Independence mainly, that's when he sent the Marines.

01:00:58.480 I'm interrupting you.

01:00:59.240 And why did he send the Marines?

01:01:00.320 Because to stop this piracy and slave trade. 0.77

01:01:03.280 I mean, the slave trade was winding down by then.

01:01:05.360 I mean, that, but anyhow, it's shocking to me.

01:01:10.300 You're right.

01:01:10.920 There was slavery in every continent in the world,

01:01:14.000 and yet somehow it's put around the necks of the U.K. and the U.S.

01:01:17.880 And I'm being obnoxious, stealing your thunder.

01:01:19.320 It's not because I even want to.

01:01:19.960 No, it's incredible.

01:01:20.820 It's just I'm just backing up what you're saying.

01:01:22.040 This is all true.

01:01:22.960 But let me tell you what's going on in Canada,

01:01:24.680 because that I can report with firsthand observation.

01:01:27.800 Justin Trudeau, he's very unpopular right now,

01:01:30.700 and he has it in his mind that he can fix that by censoring things.

01:01:34.440 He's brought in four different censorship laws.

01:01:37.180 C11, which is law, gives him dominion over the Indian. 0.99

01:01:39.600 And he ordered this years ago.

01:01:40.720 Yeah, and he has the power to order companies like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube

01:01:45.480 to boost or de-boost the algorithm to hide or promote media of his choice.

01:01:50.980 So that's a government censor bureau.

01:01:52.480 Yeah, that's C11.

01:01:53.440 C18 was he basically said to Facebook and Google,

01:01:56.740 any time you link to a Canadian news story, you've got to pay them.

01:02:00.780 You've got to pay to link to someone.

01:02:02.780 Facebook said, no thanks.

01:02:04.540 We get out of the news business.

01:02:05.980 Google is forking over $100 million a year.

01:02:07.880 That gets parceled out to approved journalists.

01:02:11.600 I'll tell you about that in about 30 seconds.

01:02:14.260 There's a bill in Parliament right now called C63.

01:02:17.280 Includes a life in prison sentence for standalone hate crimes.

01:02:22.380 Includes, you can be liable for anything on your social media.

01:02:27.080 Going back to any, as far as in time, there's no statute of limitations.

01:02:30.460 As long as you have the power to delete it today, you're on the hook.

01:02:33.560 So they can complain not just for what you're doing now.

01:02:35.540 They can work their way back through your historical oeuvre,

01:02:39.000 your portfolio of issues, and file a complaint.

01:02:42.600 And every complaint that you get hit with is a $20,000 bounty to the complainant.

01:02:48.560 So what they're doing is they're opening up something called the Canadian Human Rights Commission.

01:02:51.720 If there's anything in social media you don't like,

01:02:53.980 you can complain about it to this Human Rights Commission.

01:02:56.640 Malice.

01:02:57.260 You don't even have to be the victim of the slur.

01:03:00.320 However, if you get the complaint adjudicated in your favour, you get a $20,000 bounty,

01:03:05.580 and the person has to pay up to $50,000 to the government.

01:03:07.960 So he's basically...

01:03:08.440 While they're incentivizing going and being someone that complains, wow.

01:03:13.580 And here's the last.

01:03:14.340 So I mentioned C11.

01:03:15.440 That's where they alter the algorithm to boost or throttle their friends and enemies.

01:03:18.680 I mentioned C18, where they grab cash from the tech giants to pay off their friends.

01:03:23.220 I mentioned C63, which has this bounty on hurt words.

01:03:27.100 But the last one is something that we're facing right now.

01:03:29.740 Trudeau has created a news license, a journalism license.

01:03:32.780 He calls it the QCJO, Qualified Canadian Journalism Organization.

01:03:36.600 And the government determines whether or not you get that.

01:03:39.400 Now, if you don't get that, you're still allowed to publish a website.

01:03:42.880 But it's a credential you're denied, so you can't go to government press conferences.

01:03:46.380 They won't let us in.

01:03:48.100 You don't get any of the dough that's being handed out.

01:03:51.480 $30,000 per journalist is the average subsidy in Canada.

01:03:55.400 Now, we wouldn't take that, but that's another thing we're being denied.

01:03:59.460 But here's what terrifies me.

01:04:01.600 If you're not a QCJO news license news outfit, you would never be, and we're not.

01:04:07.000 Well, guess what Trudeau can say to the tech companies?

01:04:10.360 He would never say ban InfoWars.

01:04:12.580 He would never say ban Rebel News.

01:04:14.440 He would just say, hey, big tech companies, boost the quality journalism and throttle the fake news.

01:04:21.520 And I didn't mention the word Rebel News, and I didn't mention the word InfoWars, but the QCJO news license can tell you who's on which side.

01:04:29.680 And let's be clear, Google's been involved here and with the EU.

01:04:32.620 They're setting up similar systems.

01:04:34.580 Google wants this.

01:04:36.220 For some reason.

01:04:36.980 I don't know why they like paying $100 million a year for Canadian journalism.

01:04:40.140 Maybe because it sort of makes them regulation-proof.

01:04:42.360 Well, because they're about management of information, they're part of the deep state.

01:04:47.060 And this gets them off the hook, because Trudeau is the guy who gets to determine who is and isn't a fake news.

01:04:53.540 And then Google and the tech companies just implemented it.

01:04:56.300 So how do we get rid of Trudeau?

01:04:57.800 Because, I mean, he only got, like, what, 20% of the vote or something?

01:05:00.400 Yeah, and right now in the polls, he's so far behind.

01:05:03.720 Well, explain to people that don't live in a parliamentary system how that happens.

01:05:06.580 Well, we don't elect our prime minister directly like you elect your president directly.

01:05:10.820 The prime minister is basically the guy who commands the most seats in our legislature.

01:05:15.240 It would be like you vote for your Congress, and then whichever team has the most seats, their leader becomes president.

01:05:20.960 That's our system.

01:05:22.300 And Trudeau does not have a majority.

01:05:24.040 He only has a minority of the seats.

01:05:26.100 But there's a socialist party that supports him.

01:05:28.740 There's a Quebec socialist separatist party that supports him.

01:05:31.580 So he can cobble together a working majority.

01:05:34.460 He's so low in the polls.

01:05:35.720 He's so hated.

01:05:37.220 But these socialist parties back him up.

01:05:39.460 He's probably got one more year.

01:05:40.760 He can choose the timing of election.

01:05:42.420 That's another wrinkle in the state.

01:05:44.480 So how do you guys get in and reverse all this?

01:05:47.460 Well, there is a conservative party leader in Canada who's, I have to say, is pretty good.

01:05:52.380 For example, he's banned any of his people from going to the World Economic Forum.

01:05:55.980 He says, no one in my government will go to the World Economic Forum.

01:05:57.800 And they've demonized him for me just saying nice things.

01:05:59.720 Yeah.

01:06:00.220 And he's starting to talk about immigration now, which used to be verboten in Canada.

01:06:05.720 And Canada's gone absolutely nuts.

01:06:07.860 We have one million international students with visas in Canada.

01:06:13.860 There's not even a million Canadian students in college.

01:06:16.400 Like, it's just, you can feel it just in the country.

01:06:19.240 He's, I think we have proportionally more mass migration than you do.

01:06:23.060 So Pierre Polyev is the name of this conservative leader.

01:06:26.820 I'm hopeful.

01:06:29.400 Again, everybody that thinks of things as countries being separate, it's not.

01:06:32.980 I mean, it's, but the good news is people like Klaus Schwab has to at least not be the head of the WF anymore.

01:06:37.040 He's so unpopular.

01:06:37.700 Bill Gates is hated.

01:06:39.140 You've got Zuckerberg coming out and saying, I'm not going to be political anymore, which isn't true.

01:06:42.040 But at least he's not being openly pro-leftist and helping steal the election.

01:06:45.700 We're really seeing, you know, like you said, Zelensky coming over and kind of tipping the hat to Trump.

01:06:51.360 They can see the writing on the wall. 0.98

01:06:52.660 That's why they're trying to kill Trump, because they know we're winning if they don't kill him. 0.98

01:06:55.960 Now, they're at least hedging. 0.99

01:06:56.880 They still want to defeat him, but they're placing their back.

01:06:59.460 Don't think Zuckerberg for one second is actually for freedom.

01:07:02.400 He's trying to rebrand himself.

01:07:04.080 And he's doing a good job just in terms of images, but it's the substance accounts.

01:07:07.640 He was, he, like I say, he is censoring like a vicious taskmaster in Brazil.

01:07:14.100 Bolsonaro organized on WhatsApp, which is that meta platform.

01:07:18.240 Yes.

01:07:18.560 And it was Zuckerberg who basically, and same thing in France.

01:07:22.580 Zuckerberg stopped Le Pen from winning in France.

01:07:26.920 Zuckerberg stopped Bolsonaro's re-election in Brazil.

01:07:30.800 I blame them.

01:07:32.320 They're a meddler.

01:07:32.940 People at that level, Alex, they regard countries as playthings.

01:07:38.080 They're really not much different than Soros.

01:07:40.460 They regard politicians as things that, you know, if you follow Alex Soros on Twitter and Instagram.

01:07:46.460 Tell folks about him.

01:07:47.360 I recommend you do.

01:07:48.440 That's the son of George Soros.

01:07:50.080 Oh, he's an astro. 0.98

01:07:51.100 And you'll never see a video clip of him.

01:07:53.340 I don't know if you guys can find one.

01:07:54.920 It's very rare to find a video clip of him, because when you listen to the guy.

01:07:58.580 Can't talk.

01:07:59.320 Yeah, he can't. 1.00

01:08:00.160 I don't know if it's a speech impediment or if he's genuinely dumb. 0.99

01:08:03.460 I don't think he's dumb, because I see him with every, not just every Democrat. 0.98

01:08:08.320 He's hanging out with Kamala Harris and every top Democrat.

01:08:12.740 Every politician.

01:08:14.280 Tampon, Tampon.

01:08:14.900 He collects politicians around the world.

01:08:18.300 His father was behind the color revolutions in Europe.

01:08:22.160 So they don't believe they're bound by citizenship.

01:08:27.100 They don't believe in borders.

01:08:28.680 They are above all that.

01:08:30.280 And the leaders of Google and Facebook are the same way, Alex.

01:08:35.340 It's a messiah complex.

01:08:36.940 It's a god complex.

01:08:38.400 It's I've done everything else in the world.

01:08:40.020 Now what can I do but have the world bend to my will?

01:08:43.100 That's what's scary.

01:08:44.420 What are they going to do, though, as opposition keeps rising, which is happening?

01:08:46.940 Well, if every source of information is filtered through an algorithm before it comes out of your phone, you don't even know what world you're living in.

01:08:57.640 Let me give you a super quick example from Canada.

01:08:59.620 Oh, boy, Alex, you're going to find this a crazy story.

01:09:01.820 You know what the Amish are, right? 0.99

01:09:03.100 They're old.

01:09:03.660 Absolutely.

01:09:04.100 Christian farmers, they reject modernity. 1.00

01:09:07.660 They don't even have electricity.

01:09:08.860 They don't drive cars.

01:09:10.060 Well, there's a bunch of Amish in Canada.

01:09:12.860 And Trudeau, during the lockdowns, brought in an app, a smartphone app you had to download coming in and out of the country.

01:09:20.380 You had to disclose your COVID jab status.

01:09:24.140 You had to download an app and fill it out.

01:09:26.860 And if you didn't, there was a $6,000 fine.

01:09:29.300 Okay, so these Amish are going back and forth across the border from Canada to the States because they've got family in other communities.

01:09:35.320 Every time they come across the border, Trudeau's border police say, did you download the app on your smartphone?

01:09:42.660 That's the canary in the coal mine for the global social credit score they're going to try to make us all have.

01:09:46.360 That's right.

01:09:46.940 But just stop for saying, these are folks who don't have phones.

01:09:49.680 They don't have cars.

01:09:50.580 They don't have electricity.

01:09:51.420 And they say, what are you talking about?

01:09:54.460 So every time they would come across the border, they'd get a $6,000 fine.

01:09:58.140 Now, they didn't know what it was for.

01:10:00.540 And so they just sort of ignored it.

01:10:01.900 This one community had $300,000 or $400,000 worth of COVID fines for not downloading the app.

01:10:07.680 One of these Amish goes to the bank to get a loan to buy cattle. 0.98

01:10:10.660 The banker says, sorry, old man, I can't do that.

01:10:13.820 You got a lien on your farm.

01:10:15.820 Turns out the Trudeau government prosecuted those fines, didn't collect, slapped every Amish farmhouse, 1.00

01:10:24.460 with a lien.

01:10:25.320 Evil.

01:10:26.160 And, but I went out to visit these farmers and I asked them about COVID.

01:10:30.860 They didn't, they barely knew what I was talking about.

01:10:33.000 You know why, Alex?

01:10:34.620 Because they weren't on their smartphones.

01:10:36.260 They weren't watching CNN.

01:10:37.300 They weren't listening.

01:10:37.940 So the answer to the AI false reality is being like the Amish. 1.00

01:10:40.980 Well, I mean, I wouldn't want to live like the Amish, but it was amazing to, 1.00

01:10:45.040 the COVID thing was a nothing to them.

01:10:47.100 Because if you didn't have, if you weren't as wired in as you are.

01:10:50.080 Well, they don't even have autism, basically.

01:10:51.480 And, and the idea of wearing a mask was absurd to them.

01:10:55.220 They, the mask was a flag to keep you scared and to show the side you're on.

01:10:59.660 If there were no masks and you didn't have social media, you would not have known that COVID was a thing.

01:11:04.300 The Amish didn't know that COVID was a thing.

01:11:06.400 And if there's some way we can break out of that matrix and stay in reality, but it's hard because, boy, it's a different.

01:11:13.740 Well, that's another thing, the UN treaty, they couldn't get it through, 0.87

01:11:16.140 but they still declared emergency with monkey pox, even though that's only a thing that homosexuals get. 0.89

01:11:20.820 I was in Geneva when they tried to negotiate this, this latest, latest pandemic treaty. 0.52

01:11:26.560 Every single public health officer in the world, they didn't get laid off after COVID.

01:11:31.840 COVID was their bumper crop.

01:11:33.500 No.

01:11:33.780 But they're all still working at it.

01:11:35.640 Well, you and I have moved on to other things.

01:11:37.420 They're beavering away, and the fact that they failed to get the deal they wanted, they'll come back next year.

01:11:42.400 Well, have you seen Hotez and Tedros and Eric Schmidt, of all people, saying we need to use the UN and NATO to censor everyone now ahead of the next pandemic?

01:11:52.540 Well, that's who's funding a lot of these so-called fact checkers.

01:11:55.620 They get government grants, military grants.

01:11:58.300 I don't know if you heard of NewsGuard.

01:11:59.700 I'm sure you have.

01:12:00.240 I'm sure you've done a lot of work on NewsGuard.

01:12:01.820 But big military contracts, no wonder they censor basically, according to your political views, they censor us up in Canada.

01:12:11.160 Ezra, I just need listeners to understand, I know they know this, but this is not your show, my show, what we do.

01:12:17.980 It's not entertainment.

01:12:19.740 And I know people consciously get that, but it has to really sink in that we're living in an incredible time right now.

01:12:26.600 You say it's not entertainment.

01:12:28.140 You've got to get people's attention before they're going to listen to you.

01:12:30.960 And an entertaining style and good storytelling.

01:12:33.340 Oh, yeah.

01:12:33.740 We try to absolutely.

01:12:34.300 And you're the master.

01:12:35.900 I don't know about that.

01:12:36.680 I used to be a lot funnier.

01:12:38.260 Things are so serious now.

01:12:39.260 People are like, I don't know.

01:12:39.960 People confuse your storytelling panache with a lack of substance.

01:12:44.420 I think you're one of the best read people I know.

01:12:46.720 Just look at the table here.

01:12:48.200 And I know, because whenever I'm on your show, you make gentle corrections when I get something just slightly.

01:12:52.860 No, you correct me all the time.

01:12:54.080 No, no, because you've got, but I'm saying there's a depth to it.

01:12:57.580 And that's why when you go on Joe Rogan and went on Joe Rogan and had the debate, I mean, the guy in good faith was trying to fact check you in real time.

01:13:05.620 You had your answers.

01:13:07.040 You know, and the thing is, the other side, they're just repeating message tracks.

01:13:10.920 They have like a very shallow depth on any issue.

01:13:14.020 Two men can have a baby. 0.73

01:13:15.240 If you take the COVID shot, you're protected.

01:13:16.660 It's all lies.

01:13:17.280 And they've never been pressed on it.

01:13:18.820 You ask the ordinary normie a question, they'll have a set message recording that they heard.

01:13:24.700 But if you press them to go deeper, they can't.

01:13:27.000 And it's the same thing with protests.

01:13:28.320 I've been at 100 protests in my life.

01:13:30.560 When I go to protests on the right, like the trucker convoy in Canada, you ask people, why are you here?

01:13:36.460 Okay, you better get ready for a half-hour lecture.

01:13:38.400 You're going to hear.

01:13:38.960 When I was in Brazil, you saw I was asking people.

01:13:40.840 Very smart, but informed.

01:13:42.000 But you go to many protests on the left.

01:13:44.200 They always say, I can't talk to the spokesperson.

01:13:47.680 They'll never talk.

01:13:48.780 They do that because they're obedient, but they also do that because they don't actually know why they're there.

01:13:53.120 They were told to go on.

01:13:53.680 They just, I'm good because I'm holding a communist flag.

01:13:55.980 Or I'm getting paid to be here.

01:13:58.440 The left pays protesters all the time.

01:14:00.720 AstroTurf.

01:14:01.200 Yeah.

01:14:03.280 It is interesting times, but I think we can still win.

01:14:07.380 I'm still hopeful.

01:14:08.100 I remember a couple years ago I said to you that something I was really hoping for was those Hong Kong students that were having the protests.

01:14:14.420 Remember in 2019?

01:14:15.260 Yes.

01:14:15.540 I was here and I said, don't, it's not bad news everywhere.

01:14:19.480 Look at the, well, then they were crushed.

01:14:21.560 Crushed, jailed, and civil liberties have been wiped out in that city, Hong Kong.

01:14:26.300 That was one thing I was hanging on to in 2019 was those guys.

01:14:31.620 But I actually think that Trump's renaissance and Elon Musk reviving people who were canceled, that's reason for, if you ask me for the number one reason to be hopeful today, it's that people have been brought back from the literal social media dead.

01:14:47.240 But Tommy Robinson in the UK, he was persona, he was written out, persona non grata.

01:14:53.580 Now he's got an enormous following in, they're going to try and.

01:14:55.780 Well, I think the story is the globalists think they can, the evil corporate forces think they can take over if they punish the leaders.

01:15:02.720 But as long as the people keep celebrating the leaders and supporting them, then it only makes us more successful and we can win.

01:15:08.640 But look at Tommy, they want to put him in prison now for his speech when he comes back to the UK.

01:15:14.940 And I've told him, don't go back.

01:15:16.900 Well, he's got the UK in his blood.

01:15:19.060 He just won't stay away.

01:15:20.620 I know he's going to go back and face the music.

01:15:23.240 And for each contempt charge, there's possible two years in prison for him.

01:15:27.300 And that's for playing a movie.

01:15:29.080 It's not for any violent.

01:15:30.940 It's for him exposing he was set up by the court.

01:15:32.860 Yeah.

01:15:33.680 Yeah.

01:15:33.860 So, what do you think would have happened, it's a horrible question, but it's important, if Trump would have been killed in Butler or in Mar-a-Lago?

01:15:43.220 Well, the first thing I think, a lot of people would have been demoralized and would have just withdrawn from public life.

01:15:52.640 And I think the energy and the spark of America would have flickered.

01:15:57.880 I think some people would have had an overreaction that made things worse.

01:16:02.320 But I don't know what the path forward is.

01:16:05.600 I mean, I like J.D. Vance and all, but he's not Trump.

01:16:08.980 It's Trump the world wants and needs.

01:16:10.620 I don't know what would have happened.

01:16:11.940 It's a terrifying thought because he really is a unique person.

01:16:15.260 I don't even want to, that's why my heart pounded so hard when I first saw that.

01:16:19.380 I don't know.

01:16:20.120 I mean, you would know better than me.

01:16:21.360 I'm worried what would happen.

01:16:22.620 I mean, when Kennedy was killed, that demoralized America for a generation.

01:16:27.280 That sort of, I don't know, I don't even want to contemplate it, Alex.

01:16:32.360 You would know the answer anyways.

01:16:33.700 Well, I don't know the exact answer.

01:16:35.440 I believe they were going to stage false flags and blame it on angry Trump supporters.

01:16:39.280 I believe that's how they were thinking about killing Biden, saying a terrorist did it that way to put Kamala in.

01:16:43.500 But instead, they just grabbed him from Las Vegas and flew him to Delaware, where he disappeared for eight days.

01:16:50.480 I mean, we have a coup already in place, and now they're talking about a coup against all of our liberties out of desperation.

01:16:56.260 We are not in the normal political system right now, and I just continue to put out the urgency.

01:17:00.920 But God's hand was on Trump, and I agree.

01:17:04.400 Some would have become demoralized.

01:17:05.980 Others would have just become more stalwart in what's happening.

01:17:10.460 But the left knows how to take over institutions.

01:17:12.140 And we have to peacefully, through the process, take them over, but also support new institutions.

01:17:17.440 And that's why, in the information war, the globalists say the number one thing they're facing is disinformation.

01:17:22.960 That means people tell the truth.

01:17:24.340 So there's an old Internet saying, no one knows who first said it, that propaganda would not be necessary if the situation was hopeless.

01:17:29.720 And so it's not hopeless, and I just go back to free speech, standing up, speaking out.

01:17:34.920 I mean, I flew to up with Tucker in Pennsylvania about a week and a half ago.

01:17:42.140 And I'm in the line, and almost everybody's face scanning, even though it's voluntary.

01:17:49.100 And I probably shook 20 hands in the line, and I said to people, I said, you don't have to do that.

01:17:54.600 You're going in a database.

01:17:55.600 And they said, oh, we love you.

01:17:56.580 You're right.

01:17:57.540 But they went ahead and did it.

01:17:58.860 And so, and then soon it'll be mandatory, while the border's wide open.

01:18:03.440 Well, that's the thing.

01:18:04.340 Joining the Matrix is fun.

01:18:06.360 It's convenient.

01:18:07.520 It feels like a video game.

01:18:09.240 It's titillating.

01:18:10.520 It's never-ending.

01:18:11.780 It gets you dopamine.

01:18:13.040 It is an addiction.

01:18:15.620 And that's the thing that Orwell didn't count on.

01:18:17.820 He said the future is a boot stamping on a human head forever or something to that.

01:18:23.000 Ezra LeVant, we've got the great talk show host and top trends forecasters, Earl Salente, coming up.

01:18:29.560 And let's do five more minutes and finish up talking about Rebel Media.

01:18:32.760 Then in one hour, Owen Schroyer, The War Room.

01:18:35.960 Stay with us.

01:18:36.440 We'll be right back.

01:18:39.280 Final segment with the owner of Rebel Media, Ezra LeVant.

01:18:44.620 Ezra, I always love having you on.

01:18:46.720 This has been a great interview.

01:18:47.360 But I started thinking about all of the exploits you guys have done and all the countless reports I see every few days.

01:18:53.320 It's just bombshell stuff.

01:18:54.560 Everybody sees your stuff, but they should all magnify it as well.

01:18:58.420 In closing, as soon as you leave today, and every time we have a big guest, I'm like,

01:19:02.340 I didn't try to book you on Owen's show or the other show with Harrison Smith.

01:19:05.940 So hopefully you can go on Owen's show today as well and maybe play some of your greatest hits because they're so timeless.

01:19:12.240 But in closing, I think about the pastors and people that we've had on that you showed us being put in jail over and over again for opening their churches when the topless bars and Walmarts and hotels were still open, but churches weren't.

01:19:27.500 I mean, the left just goes out of its way to be so obvious, and they're closing the other religious centers and places and beating people up in New York because they were out on the street without masks or closing synagogues or mosques.

01:19:39.500 I mean, it's just, and it's the same thing worldwide.

01:19:41.520 It's, they, they really, it's like Trudeau said, he goes, I like basic dictatorship.

01:19:45.460 I like Gigi Ping.

01:19:46.320 I mean, these are real villains who aren't even hiding it now.

01:19:49.620 Yeah.

01:19:49.920 You know, it's been years since the pandemic receded, but in Canada, they're still prosecuting people.

01:19:56.920 Tamara Leach, the leader of the truckers, she's still on trial right now. 0.98

01:20:00.300 She hasn't had a 47 day trial.

01:20:02.760 They tried to turn the truckers into the truckers.

01:20:04.360 Tell people about that.

01:20:05.040 It's huge.

01:20:06.020 The trucker convoy was the most incredible movement in Canada.

01:20:08.520 Completely peaceful.

01:20:10.740 Trudeau tried to get a January 6th insurrection narrative.

01:20:14.320 He was trying to copycat the Democrats.

01:20:16.480 Didn't work, but they still, they had horses running over families. 0.91

01:20:20.140 Yeah.

01:20:20.480 In fact, the violence came from the government.

01:20:22.120 Trudeau declared martial law, something he didn't even do during 9-11.

01:20:25.740 So they arrested all these peaceful leaders.

01:20:28.200 They froze the bank accounts of, of 200 people involved in the truckers and family bank accounts.

01:20:34.800 So the wives couldn't buy groceries or medicine or rent for the kids. 1.00

01:20:38.480 Which is a, which is a preview of the future and of the social credit score.

01:20:42.520 Absolutely.

01:20:42.940 And it was just, when later they were asked, how did you come up with the list?

01:20:46.880 Oh, just in the media.

01:20:48.340 Like they just read in the media, oh, this is the name of some guy.

01:20:50.980 Like it was, not that there would be any proper science behind it, but it was just an enemy of the regime.

01:20:56.720 You know what we did?

01:20:57.280 We were scared they were going to freeze our bank accounts because we didn't give money to truckers directly.

01:21:01.760 But we gave money to lawyers to help the truckers.

01:21:04.180 So we prepaid our whole staff a month's pay.

01:21:07.180 And we sort of squirreled away the rest of the dough because we were worried they were going to shut us down because they hated the counter narrative.

01:21:14.060 The entire regime media was saying, go harder, go harder.

01:21:17.560 And everything that bad guys need worldwide, they're all part of the WF thing, we penetrates the cabinets, is that we don't have a voice.

01:21:24.040 So it's voice, voice, voice.

01:21:26.000 So they threw the leader of the truckers in jail for 49 days.

01:21:30.040 I don't remember.

01:21:30.660 She's a little Métis grandma, you know, the sweetest person.

01:21:33.960 I mean, that's not as bad as these J6ers, but they were trying to do that thing. 1.00

01:21:38.620 They put her on a 47-day trial, hasn't even got the result yet. 0.94

01:21:42.480 The Christian leader, Arthur Pawlowski, I think you've had him on the show before.

01:21:46.200 He's got that Polish accent.

01:21:47.340 He says, Nazis out.

01:21:48.900 He's still before the courts too.

01:21:50.680 They convicted him of giving a sermon in support of the truckers, a sermon.

01:21:55.340 They call that incitement to mischief.

01:21:57.920 That's still before the courts.

01:21:59.060 So it's lawfare.

01:22:00.500 Similar to what you're going, you're 12 years worth of lawfare.

01:22:04.720 These Canadian cases aren't quite as bad, but it's the same species. 1.00

01:22:07.640 It's like what they're doing to Trump, and they're going to come for Elon Musk next.

01:22:11.280 I mean, they're already doing that through the, you know, these bogus charges against SpaceX.

01:22:16.920 I'm worried.

01:22:17.640 The left is relentless.

01:22:18.940 They are relentless, and this is what they do for a living.

01:22:22.460 Absolutely.

01:22:22.860 You know, again, I have faith, and I agree with General Flynn here today.

01:22:29.040 I see a global awakening, and I see people everywhere coming together, and I see nationalists and populists getting elected, just like we saw in Austria.

01:22:36.820 And so, but we don't have a question of it.

01:22:38.660 We have to stand up.

01:22:40.280 We have to take civilization back.

01:22:41.740 And I, you know, the enemies of freedom got a head start on us because people were asleep.

01:22:45.940 We were in freedom.

01:22:46.720 We thought everything was okay.

01:22:47.620 It couldn't happen here.

01:22:48.740 But now we're discovering those old instincts of freedom again.

01:22:51.060 I think we're going to win, and thanks to you and your great team, Ezra Levin.

01:22:53.360 You've got so many great reporters, so many great people.

01:22:55.720 Well, you're nice to see it.

01:22:56.680 We love citizen journalism, and, you know, we're always happy to share our footage, and I hope to see you in Davos one day because you would be the king of that town.

01:23:05.300 Oh, well, I'm always getting pinned down.

01:23:07.200 I'd love to go show.

01:23:07.940 You know what?

01:23:08.380 I'm intending to go with you.

01:23:09.380 All right.

01:23:10.120 Because, you know, Tucker wants me to go on tour with him in Europe.

01:23:13.000 Oh, wow.

01:23:13.740 That's next summer.

01:23:14.580 Wow.

01:23:15.060 But hopefully we're not in World War III.

01:23:16.380 That's right.

01:23:17.280 All right.

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01:23:30.640 Please stay with us.

01:23:31.860 It's great to be joined here by Ezra Levant from Rebelnews.com, and we were just talking in the break here preparing.

01:23:39.820 It's almost like Rebel News is on an island up there in Canada just fighting for free speech, fighting for truth in media.

01:23:46.740 And so we will definitely talk about that.

01:23:48.700 But I couldn't help, when I was watching you on the Alex Jones show earlier and then seeing the reporting you did in Brazil, I couldn't help but be fascinated by that.

01:23:57.460 And for people that haven't been to Brazil or kind of studied the geopolitics, Brazil kind of gets overlooked in the geopolitical conversation.

01:24:04.740 They kind of get overlooked as what I think should be our number one ally in the United States of America, the resources, the people.

01:24:13.760 And you can just walk around in a rally and people speak English.

01:24:18.820 Portuguese is their native tongue.

01:24:19.980 People speak English down there.

01:24:21.120 So, I mean, it's just, it's a sad thing to see what's going on.

01:24:24.160 So just kind of talk about your experience.

01:24:25.940 It was your first time there.

01:24:26.900 Talk about your experience in Brazil, the events that you were at, and just what it was like to hear from the people.

01:24:32.940 Sure.

01:24:33.060 I had never been to Brazil before, but I was watching out of the corner of my eye the fight between Elon Musk of Twitter, X, and the president down there, the authoritarian socialist president named Lula.

01:24:47.120 But even more so Lula.

01:24:48.380 Who spent time in prison for political corruption, by the way.

01:24:50.800 That's right.

01:24:51.520 And he's back in now having beat Jair Bolsonaro, who is more Trump-like.

01:24:57.620 There's some questions about the fairness of that election.

01:24:59.600 But Lula has a right-hand man named Alexander de Moraes, who's a hunter-killer judge.

01:25:07.480 He dresses absurdly. 0.57

01:25:08.940 It's crazy.

01:25:09.880 So does the leader.

01:25:10.780 So does the Speaker of your Parliament kind of dress as a little crazy, too.

01:25:13.920 So, I mean, I'm just saying it's a very similar thing.

01:25:16.600 They got the cape going on.

01:25:18.020 But he owns it.

01:25:19.320 He, like, flaps the cape around.

01:25:20.840 I'm surprised he doesn't pull out a wand and, like, do a curse next.

01:25:24.300 You know, I was at this huge protest.

01:25:26.440 And I saw that the thing about Elon Musk is he acts like he's a pundit or a talk show host.

01:25:32.940 Like, he just says what's on his mind.

01:25:34.360 Even if it's rude, even if it's suggestive, he doesn't care.

01:25:37.620 That's one of my favorite things about him is he doesn't take himself too seriously.

01:25:40.920 So the sparring with de Moraes, this judge, because what happened just super quick is this judge would order certain people to be banned from Twitter.

01:25:52.200 A judge?

01:25:53.060 What's your business?

01:25:54.040 And the thing is, he ordered it done, but he ordered it be done in secret.

01:25:58.720 So these political opponents or journalists of Lula would be silenced, and Twitter was told, you're not allowed to explain anything.

01:26:06.180 You're not allowed to say we ordered you.

01:26:07.900 That's contrary to Brazilian law, according to Twitter.

01:26:10.780 So you saw this battle, and Elon Musk just getting in there.

01:26:13.740 And so they banned, because Elon Musk refused to comply, de Moraes banned the entire app from the entire country.

01:26:24.500 20 million users were banned.

01:26:26.200 By the way, not a peep from the American media about this.

01:26:29.360 I don't even know if I heard anything from a single congressman or woman about this.

01:26:33.280 And that's not it.

01:26:34.180 That's not all.

01:26:35.560 De Moraes and Lula were so angry at Twitter and Elon Musk, X, that they took it out on the other Elon Musk company, Starlink.

01:26:44.980 Like, the internet that specializes in rural places, because it's satellite internet.

01:26:50.860 So they started seizing Starlink assets.

01:26:54.540 Totally different company.

01:26:55.520 Just total authoritarianism.

01:26:57.720 And where's the U.S. trade representative standing up to that?

01:27:01.040 I mentioned that to Alex today.

01:27:03.360 They're making sure Soros can buy 200 radio stations.

01:27:06.460 So I heard there was going to be a big free speech rally.

01:27:09.740 And look, I go to rallies.

01:27:11.520 I get a kick out of it.

01:27:12.280 I know you do, too.

01:27:13.060 But a rally for an ideal for freedom of speech.

01:27:17.800 I thought, really?

01:27:19.000 I wanted to check it out with myself.

01:27:20.560 And I wanted to see if real life was like Twitter.

01:27:23.880 Because on Twitter, Elon Musk and De Moraes, it was fun theater.

01:27:27.580 But what's it like with real people?

01:27:28.980 Did real people, were they engaged?

01:27:30.760 Went down there, flew 10 hours straight from Toronto down to Sao Paulo, huge city, 20 million souls.

01:27:38.060 There were 200,000 people at least in that protest.

01:27:41.520 I had never been in the middle of a 200,000-person protest in my life.

01:27:45.300 It was amazing.

01:27:46.580 It had a festival feeling.

01:27:48.700 There were even people dressed up as that shaved head judge, De Moraes, like they were impersonating him.

01:27:56.460 Like he's Voldemort?

01:27:58.540 Oh, it was incredible.

01:27:59.760 And people really were, I asked them, why are you here?

01:28:03.800 And the number one answer every time was freedom.

01:28:06.880 It was real.

01:28:07.680 I thought, gee, I've gone halfway across the world.

01:28:09.320 Did you bring a translator with you?

01:28:11.120 No, but we found someone pretty quickly in the crowd who sort of appointed himself our interpreter.

01:28:18.280 Because he wanted us to connect better with people.

01:28:20.420 And we had some translation back home.

01:28:23.060 So we managed to, it was a little tougher than, it sounds like you had some ease.

01:28:27.460 Well, I went to Rio.

01:28:28.960 I spent most of my time in Rio.

01:28:30.000 I spent a little time in Sao Paulo and Curitiba.

01:28:32.540 Rio is the tourist area.

01:28:34.040 Right.

01:28:34.340 So they're more inclined to learn English there because more people are coming in and touring there.

01:28:38.220 But, I mean, if you can't find somebody that speaks English, you'll find somebody that says, hey, I'll help you.

01:28:44.500 I'll translate for you.

01:28:45.200 That's what happened to us.

01:28:46.480 And I'm really glad I was there because I didn't see any other English-speaking media cover this.

01:28:51.540 I got to tell you, 200,000 people.

01:28:54.700 Media blackout here.

01:28:55.620 If it wasn't for your coverage, I wouldn't have heard of it.

01:28:57.560 I was really glad to be there.

01:28:58.620 There was one American named Schellenberger.

01:29:00.360 You know who I'm talking about?

01:29:01.320 Yeah, Michael Schellenberger.

01:29:02.220 Yeah, he's a good egg.

01:29:03.200 And he, I think he's affiliated with Twitter in some way.

01:29:05.840 He definitely was working with Musk to expose some of the Twitter files.

01:29:09.260 Yeah, so I saw him there, but I don't think I saw another American.

01:29:12.200 And I didn't, even though you've got CNN down there, in fact, CNN's headquarters was like two blocks away from the epicenter of this massive protest.

01:29:20.540 I didn't see anything on CNN.

01:29:22.200 I feel like there was a news blackout on this.

01:29:24.560 100%.

01:29:24.880 And I talked to people there.

01:29:26.440 I had to use a VPN.

01:29:27.700 I'd never used a VPN on my cell phone before.

01:29:29.620 I just, maybe I should, but I never did.

01:29:32.060 Because that story gets crazier.

01:29:34.240 I mentioned how this judge, Demoraes, was banning individual people.

01:29:38.980 And when Elon Musk wouldn't comply, he just banned every single Brazilian.

01:29:43.500 And people started using VPNs to get around the block.

01:29:46.140 But then they brought in a huge fine of about $10,000 American if you're caught using a VPN.

01:29:52.460 I was a little nervous because I, I was.

01:29:54.960 You don't have to incriminate yourself here.

01:29:56.760 Well, I announced it when I was down there once I was through.

01:29:59.820 But that's a don't tread on me.

01:30:01.000 Did I see a don't tread on me flag in there?

01:30:02.720 You know what, there were some great flags.

01:30:04.960 And I don't know whose footage this is, but it was amazing.

01:30:07.580 It was, oh, this is great footage.

01:30:09.440 This is someone who was standing.

01:30:11.160 Yeah, that first, guys, that first shot zoomed in on the other side.

01:30:14.140 I could have sworn I saw a don't tread on me flag.

01:30:16.240 There was some fun ones, some homemade ones, a lot of Elon Musk.

01:30:19.300 So this went a mile in each direction.

01:30:21.720 Whoever filmed this was standing on the stage.

01:30:24.020 Wow.

01:30:26.440 Yeah.

01:30:27.100 I really enjoyed looking at those flags.

01:30:29.780 And I saw the odd American flag in there.

01:30:32.840 I saw a lot of Elon Musk signs.

01:30:35.240 And that sort of surprised me.

01:30:37.220 And I talked to some folks.

01:30:38.720 I played the clip when I was on Alex's show.

01:30:41.760 Everyone was sort of saying, Elon Musk, please help us.

01:30:44.260 They realized they need a heavyweight like that.

01:30:46.720 Now, we've been praising the guy.

01:30:48.260 And I think Elon Musk deserves a lot of praise.

01:30:49.900 I think he's the number one global force for free speech right now.

01:30:53.100 My God, a lot rests on that man's shoulders.

01:30:55.060 He only do so much.

01:30:56.260 Well, and when you talk about a media blackout, of course, there's a media blackout.

01:31:02.420 Where am I going to find this footage?

01:31:04.940 I'm going to find it on X, which is banned in Brazil.

01:31:09.480 Where am I going to find this footage?

01:31:10.600 I'm going to find it on Rebel News.

01:31:11.540 I'm going to find it on InfoWars, which gets mass censorship.

01:31:15.120 The corporate news media pretty much all works together

01:31:17.840 to either highlight or cover what they want

01:31:20.300 or not cover, you know, blackout what they want.

01:31:23.480 So absolutely media blackout on this.

01:31:26.900 And the fact that you can't even get it on X from Brazil,

01:31:31.580 like these people have to break the law for you to see that.

01:31:35.480 Yeah, and so some people are breaking the law.

01:31:37.700 But you know what?

01:31:38.200 It's not the easiest, simplest thing in the world.

01:31:40.600 Of course, you know what?

01:31:41.180 They're not breaking the law.

01:31:44.080 The government is breaking the law, not letting them share it.

01:31:46.900 Right, but between the people being afraid of that

01:31:50.160 and it's a couple of extra hurdles and, okay, I've got to download a VPN

01:31:54.040 and how do I do that for some people?

01:31:56.000 It's a barrier.

01:31:57.180 So it's going from 20 million active users.

01:32:00.240 I'm guessing there's less than a million now.

01:32:02.360 So, and by the way, they're obviously having the same orders

01:32:08.040 for Facebook, Instagram, and other apps.

01:32:10.800 Just those companies are complying.

01:32:13.120 You know, I think of, I look around the world,

01:32:14.720 who are the free speech champions?

01:32:16.180 I think Elon Musk definitely head and shoulders, number one.

01:32:18.980 You know who I think is making a bit of a difference too?

01:32:21.680 J.K. Rowling.

01:32:23.180 Because, and she's focused mainly on one issue of transgender extremism

01:32:27.360 because she's come out against men in women's spaces, 1.00

01:32:30.560 which is what a lot of transgenderism is.

01:32:33.180 And she's from the U.K.

01:32:35.400 And the U.K. has really been tilting towards censorship.

01:32:38.520 Scotland, Ireland, U.K.

01:32:40.060 They've all been introducing what they call the Online Harms Act.

01:32:44.220 Yeah, they'll show up with police officers at your door.

01:32:46.820 And so she has basically said,

01:32:48.760 anyone says anything they're charged with about transgenderism,

01:32:51.920 I'll restate it.

01:32:53.120 Come and get me.

01:32:54.380 Now that, if you're a billionaire with a huge public presence.

01:32:59.080 Yeah, high profile.

01:32:59.960 I mean, you're daring the cop.

01:33:01.660 And could you imagine being the cop that goes to her mansion

01:33:04.500 and tries to arrest her?

01:33:06.140 Or does?

01:33:06.960 Yeah.

01:33:08.260 Perp walks her down into a car?

01:33:10.500 And I think she's very brave in her own way.

01:33:13.900 I think Elon Musk is probably the bravest.

01:33:15.340 He's got a lot of pressure points.

01:33:16.780 He's got a lot to lose.

01:33:17.980 I'm worried that they'll try and Donald Trump him,

01:33:20.360 try and Alex Jones him.

01:33:21.800 By that, I mean Lawfare, the guy to death.

01:33:23.840 I actually, I mean, I don't want to.

01:33:25.200 Well, they already are.

01:33:26.140 Yeah, well.

01:33:26.540 I mean, in many ways, they already are.

01:33:28.320 They're BS complaints about, you know, his rocket paperwork.

01:33:32.140 Yeah, he's got like ethics complaints, FCC, FEC. 0.99

01:33:34.460 He's got all these different groups up his ass. 0.98

01:33:36.960 You know, he, I don't know if you ever read Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. 0.99

01:33:41.460 I read that one.

01:33:42.040 That was a long time.

01:33:42.200 Oh, it's only like, what, 20,000 pages?

01:33:44.080 Yeah, it's pretty long.

01:33:45.580 But you know what?

01:33:46.240 She talked about this protein figure, you know,

01:33:49.200 that carries the burden of the world on his shoulders

01:33:51.400 and is an inventor and an industrialist and entrepreneur.

01:33:54.640 She was talking about Elon Musk,

01:33:56.460 a man who by sheer will forces things to get done

01:33:59.460 when everyone says you can't.

01:34:01.060 And he's such a wealth creator.

01:34:02.880 I know I'm sounding like I'm gaga for him,

01:34:05.240 but he is, if he wasn't there,

01:34:08.300 Alex Jones would still be deplatformed.

01:34:10.820 Tucker Carlson would have a fraction of his platform.

01:34:13.800 Yeah.

01:34:14.120 How many people did Jones, sorry,

01:34:15.880 did Elon Musk bring back from the dead Twitter-wise?

01:34:18.720 I would have been completely wiped out.

01:34:21.060 In fact, it might even been,

01:34:22.880 maybe it was this week or last week,

01:34:24.300 officially I'd been back on X for a year.

01:34:28.500 I've been able to gain almost a quarter million followers.

01:34:31.140 And so I wouldn't have any of that.

01:34:32.960 I wouldn't be able to have any of this reach.

01:34:35.060 There's a lot of videos from InfoWars or myself

01:34:38.340 that we're just kind of reposting there.

01:34:39.960 People are like, oh my gosh, I've never seen this.

01:34:41.680 So, I mean, they do the censorship because it works.

01:34:44.540 It is effective.

01:34:45.380 It does work.

01:34:45.940 And it makes groups like Rebel News or InfoWars

01:34:48.300 have to fight that much harder

01:34:49.720 to get our coverage out there,

01:34:51.760 to get our videos out there,

01:34:52.900 to get these reports.

01:34:53.600 And it's so good that you're here

01:34:55.340 after your trip to Brazil

01:34:57.020 because people would have never seen that.

01:34:59.180 They wouldn't have known.

01:35:00.060 The people in Brazil are crying for freedom.

01:35:02.420 Yeah.

01:35:02.760 They're crying.

01:35:03.540 They're begging.

01:35:04.760 And the thing is,

01:35:05.960 they passed a law down there

01:35:07.300 that Bolsonaro can't run again.

01:35:09.540 I mean, again, this is some ruling.

01:35:11.220 It's like what they're trying to do to Trump.

01:35:12.720 It's so similar.

01:35:14.980 By the way, they tried to kill Bolsonaro too,

01:35:16.640 stabbed him in the streets.

01:35:17.560 And he lost half his blood. 0.97

01:35:18.840 It was terrifying.

01:35:20.120 That's the left for you.

01:35:21.440 Absolutely without compunction.

01:35:22.640 I hate to say it.

01:35:23.440 They know assassination works.

01:35:24.820 It has changed the course of history time and again.

01:35:27.180 And they are trying to do that to Trump.

01:35:29.480 And it scares me even as a foreigner.

01:35:31.360 I'm a Canadian.

01:35:32.460 I don't have literal skin in the game

01:35:34.760 because I'm not part of the election.

01:35:36.320 But let me tell you,

01:35:37.200 everyone around the world

01:35:38.000 is looking at America for this election.

01:35:39.720 You don't think...

01:35:40.720 I mean, look at Zelensky.

01:35:41.520 He met with Trump because he knows

01:35:43.140 what happens in America on November 5th

01:35:45.900 will affect China, Russia, Ukraine,

01:35:49.040 the entire Middle East.

01:35:50.820 Is there a country in the world

01:35:52.140 that won't be affected by Trump?

01:35:53.200 I mean, Netanyahu basically gave a middle finger

01:35:54.920 to Biden-Harris and begged to go meet with Trump.

01:35:57.240 I think that...

01:35:58.060 I don't think Netanyahu would have done

01:36:00.160 what he's done the last week

01:36:01.280 were he not thinking,

01:36:02.560 you know what, to heck with it.

01:36:04.040 I'm betting all on Trump.

01:36:05.160 I don't think he would have done this

01:36:07.600 if he didn't think a prospect of Trump winning.

01:36:10.260 Well, Trump, in a way, did say,

01:36:11.780 hey, look, if you're going to do it, do it fast.

01:36:13.400 Yeah.

01:36:13.860 And then, you know, we've seen what has followed.

01:36:16.600 But, you know, you think about...

01:36:20.160 Again, you go down to Brazil, you cover this.

01:36:24.000 It's a total media blackout.

01:36:26.020 It's this uphill battle to get this information.

01:36:28.660 And you talk about, hey, they use censorship.

01:36:30.600 Hey, they use lawfare.

01:36:32.240 Hey, they use assassination.

01:36:33.360 All of this is history repeating itself.

01:36:36.040 I don't claim to be some big history buff.

01:36:38.080 I'm still kind of learning as I go

01:36:40.180 just because I came up in a sports matrix, whatever.

01:36:43.560 That was my thing.

01:36:45.040 So I'm kind of still reading history,

01:36:46.960 learning history from people that are more knowledgeable.

01:36:48.860 But it all points to the same thing.

01:36:50.520 History repeats itself.

01:36:51.760 The left's tactics have never changed.

01:36:53.840 The political left tactics...

01:36:55.280 There's different brands

01:36:56.520 and there's different little channels

01:36:58.760 and there's different little means

01:37:00.280 and different little mechanisms.

01:37:01.980 But it's all the same.

01:37:02.760 The political left believes

01:37:05.040 bigger government, government control.

01:37:06.860 The individual cannot be in control.

01:37:09.340 The political right is smaller government,

01:37:11.300 self-government.

01:37:11.920 The individual determines its own fate.

01:37:13.400 I mean, that is...

01:37:14.920 If you can put these two things

01:37:16.860 in a box, in a nutshell, that's it.

01:37:19.160 One believes in government.

01:37:20.040 One believes in self-government.

01:37:21.680 And the left always has to do the same thing

01:37:23.500 when they...

01:37:23.920 Because most people want freedom.

01:37:25.760 Most people want to choose for themselves.

01:37:27.060 So what does the left do?

01:37:28.240 First they do the censorship.

01:37:29.900 Then they do the lawfare. 1.00

01:37:30.880 Then they try to kill you. 0.98

01:37:32.220 This is just history repeating itself. 0.71

01:37:34.420 I'm not sure how closely you follow

01:37:35.540 Dr. James Lindsay or Shee Van Fleet.

01:37:38.680 Lindsay has convinced me

01:37:40.140 to use the word communist.

01:37:41.560 I never really did

01:37:42.400 because I thought it sounded over the top

01:37:44.140 or I thought,

01:37:45.020 well, are they really a communist?

01:37:47.280 A lot of the tactics...

01:37:48.880 Even the language, Kamala Harris,

01:37:51.560 what can be unburdened by the past

01:37:54.780 is in zero out history,

01:37:56.720 start from year one,

01:37:58.300 forget the four olds.

01:38:00.040 That is communist phraseology.

01:38:02.840 And, you know, it's modern communism.

01:38:06.040 And I think we have to call it out.

01:38:08.700 They certainly call us fascists.

01:38:09.980 I think that's baseless.

01:38:11.660 Let me say one more thing

01:38:12.960 before I forget about it

01:38:14.400 on the Twitter side.

01:38:15.300 I think one of the greatest innovations

01:38:17.780 is community notes.

01:38:20.420 And why would I focus on that?

01:38:22.100 Because when else could you ever

01:38:24.500 force a retraction

01:38:26.960 or forced a correction

01:38:28.200 on a regime media outlet?

01:38:29.940 You couldn't.

01:38:30.860 Even, especially if they knew

01:38:32.240 they were wrong,

01:38:33.580 what could you do?

01:38:34.380 Pound send.

01:38:34.960 You could write a letter to the editor

01:38:35.860 that you would ignore it.

01:38:36.760 But now in this public forum,

01:38:38.780 you can tag an editor's note

01:38:42.580 effectively on the bottom

01:38:44.080 of a regime media lie.

01:38:47.760 And I think community notes

01:38:49.240 are the best part of Twitter.

01:38:51.200 And it's actually caused

01:38:52.860 some regime media

01:38:53.660 to occasionally delete some posts

01:38:55.360 and correct them.

01:38:57.140 And that offends

01:38:58.600 the communist notion

01:38:59.640 of controlling the media.

01:39:01.500 I mean, if you look at Trotsky,

01:39:03.060 one of his famous speeches

01:39:04.840 was we need a newspaper.

01:39:06.480 What was the first move

01:39:08.020 of communist revolutionaries?

01:39:09.800 Take command of the radio station

01:39:11.860 or then the TV station.

01:39:13.520 The communists know

01:39:14.780 the importance

01:39:15.440 of controlling communication.

01:39:17.220 And surely we should know it therefore

01:39:18.780 and know the importance

01:39:19.460 of citizen journalism.

01:39:20.820 That's why the war 0.97

01:39:21.880 against Infowars

01:39:23.820 is much more

01:39:24.880 than just a court case.

01:39:26.260 And it's much more

01:39:27.000 than just a war

01:39:28.120 on Alex Jones.

01:39:29.660 If you can set the precedent

01:39:31.320 that you can silence

01:39:32.720 and demolish

01:39:34.900 a countervailing voice,

01:39:37.920 you can do that.

01:39:38.440 If they can take on Infowars,

01:39:39.800 they can take on any blogger,

01:39:41.440 any sub-stacker,

01:39:43.020 any YouTuber.

01:39:44.100 That's why even if people

01:39:45.260 have a disagreement

01:39:45.920 with Jones on this or that,

01:39:47.340 they must rally

01:39:48.040 to the defense of Infowars.

01:39:49.660 It's the communist move

01:39:50.820 to silence a minority

01:39:52.120 dissonant opinion.

01:39:53.160 And they've shown

01:39:54.100 that whatever they're going

01:39:56.920 to do to Alex,

01:39:58.140 they'll go on and do it.

01:39:59.340 Whatever they'll do

01:39:59.880 to Infowars,

01:40:00.940 they'll go on

01:40:01.340 and do it to the next person.

01:40:02.240 Whether it's Rudy Giuliani

01:40:04.260 or Clay Clark

01:40:05.540 or Donald Trump,

01:40:06.920 I mean,

01:40:07.440 the list just goes on

01:40:08.380 and on and on

01:40:08.880 down the list.

01:40:10.280 And I think this,

01:40:12.720 you know,

01:40:12.940 the most recent trial

01:40:14.300 and maybe tribulation

01:40:15.740 of Infowars

01:40:16.260 is going to be

01:40:16.720 just kind of

01:40:17.120 the next test case.

01:40:18.120 It's like,

01:40:18.420 okay,

01:40:18.640 can we just shut you down?

01:40:20.020 Can we basically

01:40:21.200 steal someone's identity

01:40:22.800 in the public forum

01:40:23.900 and say,

01:40:24.280 we own your social meat?

01:40:25.520 We're Alex Jones.

01:40:26.360 What are you going

01:40:26.700 to start putting out

01:40:27.740 on Alex Jones?

01:40:28.440 Oh,

01:40:28.780 I love globalism.

01:40:30.200 I love corporate government.

01:40:31.480 Yay,

01:40:31.880 I'm voting Koala Harris

01:40:33.020 from Alex Jones'

01:40:34.140 Twitter account.

01:40:34.560 It's like,

01:40:34.920 what are you planning

01:40:35.760 on doing?

01:40:36.740 You know,

01:40:36.960 there was a Roman concept,

01:40:38.500 damnatio memoriae,

01:40:40.240 if I'm saying that correctly.

01:40:41.760 Sometimes a new emperor

01:40:43.000 would come

01:40:43.620 and he would,

01:40:45.180 that's Latin

01:40:45.800 for condemn the memory,

01:40:47.240 to damn the memory.

01:40:49.040 And every single law 0.96

01:40:50.800 made by the old emperor

01:40:51.960 would be repealed.

01:40:53.540 Every sculpture

01:40:54.620 or statue of him smashed.

01:40:56.400 Every painting

01:40:57.180 or mosaic of his face

01:40:58.380 would be defaced.

01:40:59.940 Damnatio memoriae.

01:41:00.880 And we don't know

01:41:01.520 if it ever actually worked

01:41:02.740 because if it worked,

01:41:03.660 we wouldn't know

01:41:04.260 that the person

01:41:04.740 was eliminated.

01:41:05.740 It was the ancient version

01:41:07.540 of the Stalinist retouching

01:41:09.600 of a photograph

01:41:10.960 to eliminate people.

01:41:12.460 They are not just trying

01:41:13.620 to silence Alex Jones

01:41:16.060 going forward.

01:41:16.640 They're trying

01:41:17.080 to condemn

01:41:17.680 the memory of him,

01:41:18.760 to erase the mosaics,

01:41:20.100 to smash it.

01:41:21.760 I fear

01:41:23.000 that someone like Alex Soros,

01:41:25.200 for whom money is nothing,

01:41:27.460 this is my,

01:41:27.940 maybe I shouldn't say

01:41:28.740 this fear out loud,

01:41:29.520 but I'm sure he's thought of it,

01:41:31.360 that he comes in,

01:41:32.480 God forbid,

01:41:33.120 and outbids a conservative

01:41:35.060 and takes the asset

01:41:36.260 and pulverizes it

01:41:37.900 and destroys it

01:41:38.760 to try to condemn

01:41:39.780 the memory,

01:41:40.560 to erase InfoWars

01:41:42.860 from the history.

01:41:43.760 I don't agree

01:41:44.200 with everything

01:41:44.600 InfoWars says.

01:41:45.640 You know,

01:41:46.120 no two people agree

01:41:47.240 on their husband and wife.

01:41:48.320 We're not in a cult.

01:41:49.160 It's not what it's about.

01:41:50.060 It's about silence

01:41:51.520 and, you know,

01:41:52.880 I mean,

01:41:53.300 they pretty much have said

01:41:54.260 that that's a plan.

01:41:55.160 I mean,

01:41:55.380 we'll see if they go

01:41:56.080 through with it,

01:41:56.560 but Media Matters

01:41:57.440 published the story

01:41:58.400 that, yeah,

01:41:59.280 they'll consider doing that.

01:42:01.860 Well,

01:42:02.100 and for them,

01:42:02.680 I mean,

01:42:03.160 look at all the fake money

01:42:04.280 that would prop up

01:42:05.160 left-wing fake clickbait sites.

01:42:07.440 I mean,

01:42:07.580 even Vice itself,

01:42:08.640 was that ever

01:42:09.140 a legitimate investment

01:42:10.200 or that left-wing VCs

01:42:12.360 laundering money,

01:42:13.820 taking some losses,

01:42:15.000 but pumping up

01:42:16.140 a pro-Democrat narrative

01:42:18.360 for five or ten years?

01:42:19.620 Well,

01:42:19.720 that's exactly what it is.

01:42:21.560 They buy the Washington Post,

01:42:23.020 it doesn't make any money.

01:42:24.360 The Los Angeles Times

01:42:25.360 hemorrhages money.

01:42:28.400 George Soros

01:42:29.060 just bought 200 radio stations.

01:42:30.540 I bet you,

01:42:31.320 if not all,

01:42:32.620 most were probably

01:42:33.580 running in the red

01:42:34.220 for years.

01:42:35.220 So it's not even about money.

01:42:36.220 Like you said,

01:42:36.940 it's about power.

01:42:37.880 It's about mass communication.

01:42:38.960 It's about getting

01:42:39.960 the propaganda out there.

01:42:41.700 And so then,

01:42:43.080 it's like people look around,

01:42:44.180 same reason why they want

01:42:44.880 to probably get rid of X.

01:42:46.060 People look around,

01:42:46.780 they see the same messaging

01:42:47.660 everywhere.

01:42:48.220 They just assume,

01:42:49.400 oh, this is real.

01:42:50.200 This must be reality.

01:42:51.080 You know,

01:42:51.760 I'm sure you're familiar

01:42:52.800 with the,

01:42:53.440 Ash Conformity Test.

01:42:56.680 Solomon Ash,

01:42:57.340 professor in the 60s,

01:42:58.680 is related to the Milgram experiment.

01:43:00.860 You know,

01:43:01.040 the one where,

01:43:01.780 the line is,

01:43:02.680 yeah.

01:43:02.960 Convince people to give a shock

01:43:04.340 to someone in the other room

01:43:05.560 or hollers,

01:43:06.440 it's actually an actor.

01:43:07.780 But if someone's wearing

01:43:08.880 a white lab coat

01:43:09.820 and a clipboard

01:43:10.400 and saying you must

01:43:11.060 give them a shock,

01:43:12.400 it was startling

01:43:13.380 how many people

01:43:14.180 would deliver that pain

01:43:15.780 because someone

01:43:16.760 looking authoritative

01:43:17.840 said so.

01:43:19.220 There was sort of

01:43:19.700 a sister experiment

01:43:20.940 to that called

01:43:21.440 the Ash A-S-T-H 1.00

01:43:22.820 Conformity Test.

01:43:25.020 And what it was,

01:43:26.420 a bunch of people

01:43:26.960 in a row,

01:43:27.820 they were showed

01:43:28.160 two cards.

01:43:29.240 On this one,

01:43:29.700 there was one line.

01:43:30.460 On this one,

01:43:30.860 there were three lines.

01:43:32.100 And it was a child's test.

01:43:33.560 Which of these three lines

01:43:34.440 is the same length

01:43:35.140 as this one?

01:43:36.100 Like a child could answer it.

01:43:37.380 And they would all have

01:43:38.320 to give their answers

01:43:39.020 out loud.

01:43:39.760 Line two,

01:43:40.340 two,

01:43:40.640 two,

01:43:40.860 two,

01:43:41.000 two,

01:43:41.180 three,

01:43:41.480 three,

01:43:41.580 three,

01:43:41.720 three,

01:43:41.740 three,

01:43:41.880 three,

01:43:41.900 three,

01:43:41.940 three,

01:43:41.960 three,

01:43:41.980 three,

01:43:42.000 three,

01:43:42.060 three,

01:43:42.080 three,

01:43:42.100 three,

01:43:42.120 three,

01:43:42.140 three,

01:43:42.160 three,

01:43:42.180 three,

01:43:51.960 And so on cue,

01:43:53.820 the people who were in on it

01:43:54.860 would all give the wrong

01:43:55.600 answer together.

01:43:56.660 They would say,

01:43:57.280 which one is the same length?

01:43:58.780 And they would all say,

01:43:59.460 one,

01:43:59.740 one,

01:44:00.040 one,

01:44:00.340 one.

01:44:00.780 And it would get to the naive

01:44:01.840 person.

01:44:02.880 What would he say?

01:44:04.600 Would he speak the truth

01:44:05.840 and say,

01:44:06.160 no,

01:44:06.340 it's two?

01:44:07.180 Was it by like the third

01:44:08.020 or fourth one?

01:44:08.660 He always went along

01:44:09.360 with the lie?

01:44:10.180 30,

01:44:10.900 this is it right here.

01:44:12.200 You can see it on the screen.

01:44:13.920 And I don't know if you got

01:44:15.260 time to play this sound up,

01:44:16.800 but it's a,

01:44:17.220 it's a,

01:44:17.760 it's such an incredible thing.

01:44:19.420 No,

01:44:19.520 it really is.

01:44:20.060 Peer pressure.

01:44:22.040 You see the lines there?

01:44:23.540 And so they would all say it

01:44:24.600 out loud.

01:44:25.420 And soon the one naive person

01:44:27.260 would go along with it.

01:44:28.240 And they said,

01:44:28.860 for one of two reasons,

01:44:29.780 either number one,

01:44:30.340 well,

01:44:30.440 maybe they're right and I'm wrong.

01:44:31.540 Maybe I just couldn't see it right.

01:44:32.860 But much of the time it was,

01:44:34.920 well,

01:44:35.420 I know they're wrong.

01:44:36.260 I know I'm right,

01:44:37.680 but I don't want to make a fuss.

01:44:38.980 I don't want to be the odd man out.

01:44:40.400 I don't want to stink up the joint.

01:44:41.800 I'm going to go along with the mob,

01:44:42.980 even though I know it's wrong.

01:44:44.040 The Ash conformity test.

01:44:46.020 These are American people

01:44:47.460 or British people conforming

01:44:48.900 for the sake of conformity.

01:44:50.060 Here's the lesson though.

01:44:52.380 And this is the Rebel News lesson

01:44:53.600 and it's the InfoWars lesson.

01:44:55.420 There was a variation

01:44:56.240 on the Ash conformity test.

01:44:58.080 If there was one other person

01:44:59.380 who spoke the truth,

01:45:00.680 just one other person,

01:45:02.760 then the compliance

01:45:04.220 of the naive person

01:45:05.900 fell to 5%.

01:45:06.540 What I'm saying is,

01:45:08.300 if you know you're not alone,

01:45:09.660 if you know there's just

01:45:10.300 one other person

01:45:11.720 calling out truth and lies,

01:45:15.420 then the peer pressure

01:45:16.780 and compliance fades away

01:45:18.980 because you know you're not alone,

01:45:20.160 you know you're not crazy.

01:45:21.920 During the lockdowns,

01:45:22.880 during the COVID crisis

01:45:23.920 and the Civil Liberties bonfire,

01:45:26.000 it was terrible in Canada,

01:45:27.140 not quite as bad in America.

01:45:28.480 We had no Ron DeSantis

01:45:29.780 during the lockdowns.

01:45:30.940 Everyone was in on it.

01:45:32.540 Every media,

01:45:33.840 every College of Physicians

01:45:35.240 and Surgeons.

01:45:36.040 There was no one

01:45:37.460 being the contrarian

01:45:38.860 except for Rebel News,

01:45:40.360 except for the InfoWars

01:45:41.500 of the world.

01:45:42.220 That's our role,

01:45:43.340 to allow people

01:45:44.120 to think for themselves

01:45:44.820 by letting them know

01:45:45.600 they're not alone.

01:45:46.680 Well, we're up against a break.

01:45:47.920 I want to continue

01:45:48.440 this conversation because,

01:45:50.440 and maybe some stories

01:45:51.400 from you,

01:45:52.120 but I can tell stories

01:45:53.140 forever about exactly

01:45:54.680 what you just said.

01:45:55.360 People tune into this.

01:45:56.140 They say,

01:45:56.580 wow,

01:45:57.220 I thought I was alone

01:45:58.980 until I heard this

01:46:00.040 and now they tune in every day.

01:46:01.600 So it's such a great point.

01:46:04.200 All right,

01:46:04.700 so we're talking about

01:46:05.360 the power of propaganda

01:46:06.380 and, I mean,

01:46:07.760 to me,

01:46:08.740 the conformity test experiment

01:46:10.240 is the most powerful way

01:46:11.900 to show

01:46:12.500 and we were kind of getting

01:46:13.580 into how they've done this

01:46:14.860 throughout time, really,

01:46:16.420 of how they've convinced

01:46:17.200 the masses

01:46:17.720 and kind of used

01:46:19.160 our own instincts

01:46:19.820 against us,

01:46:20.500 if you will,

01:46:21.700 where you can clearly see

01:46:24.260 that line B

01:46:25.300 is two times longer

01:46:26.740 than line A and C,

01:46:28.320 but the others

01:46:29.180 in the control experiment

01:46:30.040 said that A was the longest

01:46:31.340 and so therefore

01:46:32.060 it must be A.

01:46:33.000 So now by the third round,

01:46:34.400 I'm going to say it's A

01:46:35.300 and it's just,

01:46:36.860 oh, we're going to go along

01:46:37.620 with the pack

01:46:38.080 and the other thing

01:46:38.980 we were getting into

01:46:39.780 and we can go back

01:46:41.400 into how, you know,

01:46:42.520 one person stands up

01:46:43.840 and then it's more likely

01:46:44.600 the second person

01:46:45.300 was going to stand up,

01:46:45.980 but it's like dealing,

01:46:48.320 let's say,

01:46:49.180 with the mass psychosis

01:46:51.180 during COVID

01:46:51.940 with the masks

01:46:52.800 and the vaccines,

01:46:54.100 they get somebody

01:46:55.040 in a lab coat,

01:46:56.040 they get somebody

01:46:56.740 dressed up like a doctor,

01:46:58.100 you know,

01:46:58.220 maybe they even have

01:46:58.740 their stethoscope right there,

01:47:00.060 whatever it is,

01:47:01.060 and it's just,

01:47:01.680 oh, well,

01:47:02.020 this person knows,

01:47:03.160 this person is a doctor

01:47:04.300 and so they've been using it,

01:47:05.860 whether it's the guy on TV

01:47:06.780 in the suit and tie

01:47:07.860 and the perfect hair

01:47:08.920 and the perfect makeup

01:47:09.900 or it's the king

01:47:11.880 with his big giant crown

01:47:13.200 and the queen

01:47:13.840 and her scepter

01:47:14.580 and everything,

01:47:15.280 it's all this illusion

01:47:16.700 of, oh,

01:47:17.860 this is what a person

01:47:19.100 in position of authority

01:47:20.160 looks like,

01:47:20.840 so then I have to

01:47:21.780 go along with it.

01:47:22.480 Part of that

01:47:23.300 is the result

01:47:24.160 of centuries

01:47:25.420 of a high-trust society.

01:47:27.300 We've come to trust doctors

01:47:28.920 not by accident

01:47:30.080 but because they actually

01:47:31.060 over the years

01:47:31.580 have helped us

01:47:32.220 and have cured us

01:47:33.000 and we're generally

01:47:33.920 doing the right thing.

01:47:34.960 But who has co-opted that?

01:47:36.400 Well,

01:47:36.600 on the one hand,

01:47:37.200 I mean,

01:47:37.400 Pfizer itself

01:47:38.200 would pay doctors

01:47:39.720 a fee

01:47:40.600 or health HMOs

01:47:42.980 would pay a fee

01:47:43.760 for how many people

01:47:45.020 got the jab.

01:47:45.840 The government

01:47:46.460 did the same thing.

01:47:47.260 So what happened

01:47:47.880 is people tried

01:47:48.800 to hijack

01:47:49.620 that trust

01:47:51.940 that was built up

01:47:52.900 over years

01:47:53.880 or decades

01:47:54.600 and there's a reason

01:47:56.580 why there was

01:47:58.500 a COVID lockdown.

01:48:00.400 The climate lockdowns

01:48:01.620 haven't really worked

01:48:02.220 because we don't trust,

01:48:03.580 I mean,

01:48:03.760 weathermen were actually

01:48:04.520 quite well trusted

01:48:05.360 but the activists

01:48:06.760 who wanted...

01:48:07.520 They just blew

01:48:08.120 this recent hurricane coverage.

01:48:09.500 Yeah.

01:48:09.760 I think people

01:48:13.300 when they had

01:48:15.220 their trust

01:48:15.760 in authority

01:48:16.560 shattered

01:48:17.120 when police

01:48:18.020 started being

01:48:18.640 more political

01:48:19.420 when doctors

01:48:20.340 started being

01:48:20.740 more political

01:48:21.400 we're losing

01:48:22.560 the trust.

01:48:23.240 People are becoming

01:48:23.800 omniskeptics

01:48:24.940 and you know

01:48:26.620 you have to be

01:48:27.280 but I sort of lament

01:48:29.240 the passing

01:48:30.400 of an era

01:48:31.140 where we could

01:48:32.100 have our guard down

01:48:33.260 because it was

01:48:34.520 sort of an idealistic time

01:48:35.900 and another thing

01:48:37.640 is we're bringing

01:48:38.180 in an enormous

01:48:38.820 number of people

01:48:39.440 who come from

01:48:39.920 low-trust societies

01:48:41.460 and I see this

01:48:43.480 in Canada

01:48:44.060 the wildness

01:48:45.340 in the crime

01:48:46.140 the taking advantage

01:48:47.520 of social assistance

01:48:48.920 They're doing

01:48:49.360 they're fishing

01:48:50.200 the illegal fishing now

01:48:51.960 stopping the salmon

01:48:53.860 and everything

01:48:54.260 from getting upstream

01:48:55.020 You know

01:48:55.720 and I just

01:48:56.560 it took maybe

01:48:58.500 a millennia

01:48:59.300 to build

01:49:00.180 a high-trust society

01:49:01.180 Imagine a society

01:49:02.720 where a young woman

01:49:04.140 can walk

01:49:04.960 for free

01:49:06.140 freely down the street

01:49:07.400 and if she

01:49:08.060 At night?

01:49:08.700 And if she cries out

01:49:09.680 help, help

01:49:10.340 people will come

01:49:11.200 to help

01:49:11.600 whereas in low-trust societies

01:49:13.160 if a woman yells

01:49:14.200 help, help

01:49:14.840 other predators

01:49:15.920 come to be

01:49:17.240 part of the wolf pack

01:49:18.740 and it's a

01:49:19.960 it took us

01:49:21.300 so long

01:49:22.280 as a society

01:49:23.240 to build up

01:49:23.860 that trust

01:49:24.320 and we are

01:49:25.080 frittering in a way

01:49:26.080 partly through

01:49:27.560 mass immigration

01:49:28.340 to people who have

01:49:29.300 come from a very

01:49:30.340 low-trust society

01:49:31.140 and see us 0.98

01:49:31.640 as suckers 0.97

01:49:32.540 Oh well 0.99

01:49:33.380 we are suckers 0.98

01:49:34.320 for bringing them 0.98

01:49:35.620 in here

01:49:35.940 paying for everything

01:49:36.800 and I mean

01:49:37.540 so in a way

01:49:38.200 they're kind of right 0.95

01:49:38.940 we are suckers 0.97

01:49:39.860 it's unfortunate 0.94

01:49:41.380 it's not what we want

01:49:42.580 but that's where we're at

01:49:43.520 Ezra Levant

01:49:44.480 in studio here

01:49:45.320 rebelnews.com

01:49:46.440 we were covering

01:49:47.400 his incredible footage

01:49:48.440 out of Brazil

01:49:49.220 I want to get

01:49:50.640 to something

01:49:51.200 you just said

01:49:51.820 because this is so key

01:49:52.800 and it's

01:49:53.520 and you know

01:49:55.800 Elon Musk

01:49:56.420 has kind of done this

01:49:57.120 Alex Jones

01:49:57.680 has kind of done this

01:49:58.500 you have kind of done this

01:49:59.760 some of your other reporters

01:50:00.640 have even done this

01:50:01.500 when they're actually

01:50:02.280 out on the scene

01:50:03.300 and that's the phenomenon

01:50:05.300 of when

01:50:05.860 you know

01:50:06.860 one man stands up

01:50:08.020 the other man stands up

01:50:09.040 it's the famous

01:50:09.640 scene and quote

01:50:11.060 from A Bug's Life

01:50:11.960 and I was telling a story

01:50:13.600 last week

01:50:14.040 I was telling you

01:50:14.440 in the break

01:50:14.800 how you know

01:50:15.800 normally if I do interviews

01:50:16.840 I'm in a studio

01:50:17.720 but I just decided

01:50:19.360 last week

01:50:20.100 after like a dozen interviews

01:50:21.360 when the Infowars news broke

01:50:22.500 I was like

01:50:22.780 I want to get out of the studio

01:50:23.860 so I'm sitting

01:50:24.660 I'm sitting at a pool

01:50:25.780 and I've got my iPhone

01:50:27.140 and my headphones

01:50:27.620 and I'm doing this interview

01:50:28.360 I finish up

01:50:28.960 I pop the headphones out

01:50:30.120 I say

01:50:30.360 well you know

01:50:30.860 the people around me

01:50:31.520 obviously heard it

01:50:32.340 I said

01:50:32.740 I hope you guys enjoyed

01:50:33.420 my political diatribe

01:50:34.360 and every single person

01:50:35.560 was like

01:50:35.940 yeah that was incredible

01:50:37.080 nobody talks like that

01:50:38.360 some couple of them

01:50:39.420 were like

01:50:39.780 gee

01:50:40.140 you know

01:50:40.740 I thought I was alone

01:50:41.960 in believing this

01:50:42.660 I thought I was the only one

01:50:43.540 that felt this way

01:50:44.280 and so

01:50:44.700 how do we

01:50:46.640 like how do we turn that

01:50:48.440 into

01:50:49.020 the Bug's Life phenomenon

01:50:50.400 like how do we defeat 1.00

01:50:51.460 the damn grasshoppers 1.00

01:50:52.620 you know 1.00

01:50:54.560 Mickey Kaus

01:50:56.140 the LA commentator

01:50:57.820 used a phrase

01:50:59.060 I think he coined it

01:50:59.720 the under news

01:51:00.900 the under news

01:51:02.220 what's under news

01:51:03.120 it's news that everyone

01:51:04.380 sort of talks about

01:51:05.340 sort of

01:51:05.760 in their inside voice

01:51:07.680 quietly

01:51:08.240 only if the people around them

01:51:09.600 are sort of trusted

01:51:10.380 things like

01:51:11.420 immigration

01:51:12.400 these days

01:51:13.620 what's the under news

01:51:14.640 everyone's talking about

01:51:15.660 you won't see it

01:51:16.300 in the regime media

01:51:17.300 you won't see it

01:51:18.260 in the over news

01:51:18.940 the official news

01:51:19.800 transgenderism

01:51:21.520 in sports

01:51:21.980 now it's starting

01:51:22.720 to break through

01:51:23.740 because of outrageous incidents

01:51:25.220 what are the things

01:51:26.460 that real people care about

01:51:27.700 but they're afraid

01:51:28.660 to talk about

01:51:29.400 because of the conformity

01:51:31.300 reasons we just talked about

01:51:32.480 because they don't want

01:51:33.220 to be at odds

01:51:34.340 with officialdom

01:51:35.060 but if you finally

01:51:36.000 stand up and say

01:51:36.720 you know what

01:51:37.160 I think it's nuts

01:51:38.180 to have a physical man

01:51:40.040 in a change room

01:51:40.940 with girls

01:51:41.560 people will say

01:51:43.140 finally

01:51:43.820 yes

01:51:44.240 I believe the same thing

01:51:45.420 and by the way

01:51:46.440 what's another

01:51:47.020 under news

01:51:47.720 is sort of like

01:51:48.700 moms

01:51:49.960 what turns a mom

01:51:51.380 concerned

01:51:51.760 what turns a young woman

01:51:53.300 having kids

01:51:55.420 but not just that

01:51:56.260 go one step further

01:51:57.200 you know

01:51:58.720 they're worried about

01:51:59.200 their kids getting on drugs

01:52:00.160 they're worried about

01:52:00.700 their kids

01:52:01.180 all the worries

01:52:02.700 that a mom has

01:52:03.380 for the kid

01:52:04.440 turn that mom

01:52:05.640 conservative

01:52:06.220 and

01:52:07.020 and I think

01:52:09.500 that

01:52:09.760 to give voice

01:52:11.600 for things that

01:52:12.380 people are talking about

01:52:13.860 that the official

01:52:15.800 regime media

01:52:16.660 will not let you

01:52:17.640 talk about

01:52:18.120 and that's why

01:52:18.760 Twitter's important

01:52:19.500 that's why

01:52:20.080 community notes

01:52:20.760 are important

01:52:21.260 that's why

01:52:21.940 not banning

01:52:22.800 the outliers

01:52:23.460 is important

01:52:24.100 well that's why

01:52:24.780 Ezra Levant is important

01:52:25.600 that's why Alex Jones

01:52:26.340 is important

01:52:26.680 that's why

01:52:27.040 Elon Musk

01:52:27.780 is important

01:52:28.860 because

01:52:29.220 it's one person

01:52:30.920 and then it's like

01:52:31.980 a domino effect

01:52:32.900 I mean

01:52:33.180 I probably wouldn't

01:52:34.800 have left sports media

01:52:35.940 and gotten into politics

01:52:37.280 if it wasn't for

01:52:38.440 Alex Jones

01:52:39.320 I mean

01:52:39.560 I listen to radio

01:52:40.620 I listen to

01:52:41.120 conservative talk radio

01:52:42.140 mostly just because

01:52:42.840 I liked the medium

01:52:43.980 I never thought about

01:52:45.220 breaking into that

01:52:46.400 in this regard

01:52:47.760 until I heard

01:52:48.520 Alex Jones

01:52:49.240 talking on the air

01:52:50.080 the way he talked

01:52:50.840 on the air

01:52:51.220 then it was like

01:52:51.720 oh maybe there is

01:52:52.540 space for me

01:52:53.160 to do this

01:52:53.620 I don't

01:52:54.380 and so I left sports

01:52:55.240 I joined politics

01:52:56.260 so that's kind of

01:52:57.140 I think why

01:52:57.800 they realized

01:52:58.600 hey

01:52:58.960 if Elon Musk

01:53:00.700 has an impact

01:53:01.660 on maybe some

01:53:02.440 of these other

01:53:02.840 billionaires

01:53:03.260 some of these

01:53:03.600 other people

01:53:03.980 in tech

01:53:04.440 you know

01:53:04.960 if Donald Trump

01:53:05.540 has an impact

01:53:06.060 on some of these

01:53:06.480 other billionaires

01:53:07.080 some of these

01:53:07.440 other successful

01:53:08.040 business moguls

01:53:08.840 if Ezra Levant

01:53:09.920 if Alex Jones

01:53:10.520 if they motivate

01:53:11.220 people younger

01:53:11.900 to start their

01:53:12.880 own thing

01:53:13.280 and have their

01:53:13.720 own voice

01:53:14.060 like that's the

01:53:15.180 process they're

01:53:15.800 trying to cut out

01:53:16.300 same reason

01:53:17.120 why the grasshoppers

01:53:17.920 say we have to 0.99

01:53:18.620 we have to kill 1.00

01:53:19.480 this ant 1.00

01:53:20.020 he's going to 0.95

01:53:20.520 destroy us 0.90

01:53:21.080 if there's anyone 1.00

01:53:21.600 else like him

01:53:22.380 and so you know

01:53:23.480 to me that's

01:53:24.160 what the censorship

01:53:24.840 and then you get

01:53:25.400 back to X

01:53:26.160 and I'm sure

01:53:27.380 you've seen this too

01:53:28.120 and I got a crazy

01:53:28.820 story on the

01:53:29.260 transgender thing 0.65

01:53:29.940 I'm sure you'll 0.96

01:53:30.400 get a laugh at

01:53:31.080 I mean it's

01:53:31.780 actually not funny

01:53:32.620 you've got people

01:53:33.180 getting hurt

01:53:33.660 but I'm sure

01:53:35.000 you've seen this

01:53:35.520 there's some

01:53:36.760 let's say

01:53:38.140 infamous

01:53:38.840 twins

01:53:40.280 on X

01:53:41.600 they love

01:53:42.220 promoting

01:53:42.620 leftist propaganda

01:53:43.400 yeah

01:53:43.980 who knows

01:53:45.260 what else

01:53:45.560 they're into

01:53:45.920 but they're

01:53:46.580 really into that

01:53:47.380 and I've

01:53:48.560 noticed that

01:53:49.000 now that X

01:53:49.660 is actually

01:53:50.280 a free speech

01:53:50.880 platform

01:53:51.460 that they

01:53:52.880 complain

01:53:53.500 and they say

01:53:54.020 oh

01:53:54.380 all my poll

01:53:55.380 results lean

01:53:56.140 right

01:53:56.480 and all my

01:53:57.120 replies are

01:53:57.840 disagreeing with

01:53:58.500 me

01:53:58.660 I mean you go

01:53:59.380 look at a

01:53:59.780 Kamala Harris

01:54:00.460 post

01:54:00.920 you go look

01:54:01.360 at any

01:54:01.580 big leftist

01:54:02.120 post

01:54:02.320 everybody

01:54:03.120 disagrees

01:54:03.760 with them

01:54:04.000 and they're

01:54:04.460 complaining

01:54:04.960 like oh

01:54:05.360 what is

01:54:05.640 going on

01:54:06.040 that's

01:54:06.920 the real

01:54:07.340 world

01:54:07.840 see

01:54:08.280 I always

01:54:10.140 say this

01:54:10.600 because it's

01:54:10.980 true

01:54:11.200 liberals

01:54:11.860 are lost

01:54:12.500 in a world

01:54:12.960 that doesn't

01:54:13.520 exist

01:54:13.940 and when the

01:54:15.160 world as it

01:54:15.720 exists is

01:54:16.220 presented to

01:54:16.740 them they 0.90

01:54:17.380 just black

01:54:18.020 it out

01:54:18.360 they just

01:54:18.700 say nope

01:54:19.160 I don't

01:54:19.660 want this

01:54:20.160 get it

01:54:20.700 out of my

01:54:21.080 face

01:54:21.400 and now

01:54:22.320 that X

01:54:22.740 has actually

01:54:23.100 had this

01:54:23.460 public forum

01:54:24.060 where there

01:54:24.400 is a free

01:54:24.920 exchange of

01:54:25.360 ideas

01:54:25.700 stuff that

01:54:26.200 they don't

01:54:26.400 agree with

01:54:26.680 it's like

01:54:27.020 oh no

01:54:27.500 I don't

01:54:27.880 want to

01:54:28.100 look at

01:54:28.360 this

01:54:28.520 I don't

01:54:28.800 like people

01:54:29.160 disagreeing

01:54:29.600 with me

01:54:29.760 I don't

01:54:30.040 want these

01:54:30.400 in my

01:54:30.760 replies

01:54:31.080 I don't

01:54:31.420 want these

01:54:31.760 poll results

01:54:32.160 not going

01:54:32.540 the way

01:54:32.740 I want

01:54:32.920 that's

01:54:34.120 not the

01:54:34.520 real world

01:54:34.980 they're getting

01:54:35.520 a hit of

01:54:36.060 the real

01:54:36.360 world and

01:54:36.860 they don't

01:54:37.140 know what

01:54:37.380 to do

01:54:37.560 with it

01:54:37.800 I think

01:54:39.280 back to

01:54:39.860 when Elon

01:54:41.500 Musk started 0.99

01:54:41.960 shaking things

01:54:42.640 up at

01:54:43.460 Twitter and

01:54:44.600 a lot of

01:54:44.860 people said

01:54:45.200 oh he's

01:54:45.500 destroyed the

01:54:45.980 company

01:54:46.420 what a

01:54:47.140 vanity

01:54:47.440 purchase

01:54:47.860 he's wrecking

01:54:48.540 it

01:54:48.720 well it's

01:54:49.200 the most

01:54:49.440 popular news

01:54:50.220 app out

01:54:50.740 there

01:54:51.000 I don't

01:54:51.520 know how

01:54:51.860 it's doing

01:54:52.220 financially

01:54:52.740 but in

01:54:53.420 terms of

01:54:53.880 the product

01:54:54.560 itself

01:54:54.960 he fired

01:54:55.920 80% of

01:54:56.580 the staff

01:54:56.860 the product

01:54:57.260 has never

01:54:57.540 been better

01:54:57.980 it's not

01:54:58.400 like the

01:54:58.640 Washington

01:54:58.960 Post

01:54:59.280 it's a

01:54:59.600 vanity

01:54:59.820 purchase

01:55:00.180 and loses

01:55:00.720 money

01:55:01.000 and nobody

01:55:01.480 reads it

01:55:01.960 and what

01:55:03.760 I'm excited

01:55:04.300 about is

01:55:05.420 there's one

01:55:05.860 piece of the

01:55:06.580 puzzle that's

01:55:07.100 missing

01:55:07.340 I mentioned

01:55:07.900 before these

01:55:08.820 political

01:55:09.240 investments by

01:55:10.040 left-wing

01:55:10.540 venture cap

01:55:11.820 companies that

01:55:12.440 are just

01:55:12.740 money laundering

01:55:13.580 to prop up

01:55:14.140 politics

01:55:15.160 the right

01:55:16.360 doesn't have

01:55:17.180 that even

01:55:18.040 a fraction

01:55:18.780 of that

01:55:19.140 compared to

01:55:19.620 the left

01:55:20.000 and how

01:55:21.160 do you pay

01:55:21.640 the bills

01:55:22.300 in right

01:55:23.240 of center

01:55:23.680 or freedom

01:55:24.440 oriented

01:55:24.860 or dissident

01:55:25.360 how do you

01:55:25.860 do that

01:55:26.220 it's something

01:55:26.540 we wrestle

01:55:27.040 with all

01:55:27.360 the time

01:55:27.820 but I see

01:55:28.780 a twinkle

01:55:29.300 of a prospect

01:55:30.640 in what Elon

01:55:31.980 Musk talks about

01:55:32.720 for his future

01:55:33.440 of the app

01:55:33.980 and I think

01:55:34.660 it also is

01:55:35.340 why he likes

01:55:35.920 Doge

01:55:36.520 that cryptocurrency

01:55:37.580 that's worth

01:55:38.520 just a few

01:55:39.020 pennies

01:55:39.520 is because

01:55:40.300 imagine

01:55:40.820 where hundreds

01:55:42.980 of millions

01:55:43.440 of users

01:55:44.280 can I'll give

01:55:44.920 a couple

01:55:45.280 of cents

01:55:46.080 to this guy

01:55:46.840 or I'll buy

01:55:47.880 this article

01:55:48.360 for one penny

01:55:49.300 if you can get

01:55:50.160 the transaction

01:55:50.900 let's say you

01:55:51.700 load up your

01:55:52.240 Doge account

01:55:53.220 on your Twitter

01:55:53.800 account with

01:55:54.540 100 bucks

01:55:55.120 worth of crypto

01:55:56.260 and then

01:55:57.220 ordinary

01:55:58.900 content creators

01:56:00.300 who could never

01:56:01.500 get a YouTube

01:56:02.040 ad because it

01:56:02.700 would be blocked

01:56:03.500 if you can say

01:56:04.840 hey if you like

01:56:05.440 this give me

01:56:05.860 a penny

01:56:06.240 or something

01:56:06.900 how am I

01:56:07.780 going to make

01:56:08.120 any money

01:56:08.440 well if a million

01:56:08.940 people come

01:56:09.540 with a penny

01:56:10.040 that's 10 grand

01:56:11.060 for you

01:56:11.440 congrats

01:56:12.000 I guess what

01:56:12.980 I'm saying

01:56:13.300 is it's not

01:56:14.040 just the free

01:56:14.620 speech

01:56:14.980 it's that

01:56:16.440 if he creates

01:56:17.100 a free speech

01:56:17.980 where everyone

01:56:18.460 wants to be

01:56:19.080 there and

01:56:19.880 then allows

01:56:20.860 it's like a

01:56:21.540 breakaway economy

01:56:22.280 yeah and

01:56:23.480 and he's

01:56:24.340 talked about

01:56:24.940 this

01:56:25.160 he hasn't

01:56:25.940 really moved

01:56:26.480 that way

01:56:26.980 fully yet

01:56:27.540 he started

01:56:28.100 to pay a

01:56:28.860 little bit

01:56:29.180 to content

01:56:29.700 creators

01:56:30.200 but I just

01:56:31.240 have a hope

01:56:31.940 that we can

01:56:32.820 break away

01:56:34.120 from the

01:56:34.780 the Mark Zuckerbergs

01:56:38.040 and the YouTubes

01:56:39.140 YouTube demonetized

01:56:40.680 Rebel News

01:56:41.260 when we

01:56:42.460 published

01:56:43.560 Donald Trump

01:56:44.540 on January 6th

01:56:46.540 that's when

01:56:47.380 YouTube demonetized

01:56:48.540 us because we

01:56:49.020 played a clip

01:56:49.620 of him

01:56:49.960 and we were

01:56:51.120 on track

01:56:51.780 to make a million

01:56:52.400 bucks a year

01:56:52.960 which was enough

01:56:53.480 to pay our

01:56:53.980 whole payroll

01:56:55.020 at the time

01:56:55.500 YouTube

01:56:55.760 cut it down

01:56:56.960 to zero

01:56:57.540 they expected

01:56:58.840 us to go

01:56:59.320 out of business

01:56:59.800 and when you're

01:57:00.200 an independent

01:57:00.640 media

01:57:01.340 that was

01:57:01.720 that was our

01:57:02.460 dough

01:57:02.660 that was the

01:57:03.160 majority of

01:57:03.620 our dough

01:57:03.840 we'd had to

01:57:04.280 totally rebuild

01:57:04.980 around crowdfunding

01:57:06.320 and that's a

01:57:08.140 terrible form

01:57:08.860 of censorship

01:57:09.500 I think Elon

01:57:11.620 Musk could solve 0.53

01:57:12.580 that problem

01:57:13.200 and have a

01:57:13.840 there could be

01:57:14.400 a hundred

01:57:15.020 new info wars

01:57:16.500 and rebel

01:57:16.940 newses

01:57:17.440 or more likely

01:57:18.280 just 10,000

01:57:19.620 really interesting

01:57:20.520 people who get

01:57:21.720 paid for their

01:57:22.300 really interesting

01:57:23.000 ideas and who

01:57:23.900 are smarter

01:57:24.440 at commentary 1.00

01:57:25.200 than the fools 1.00

01:57:26.040 we see on 1.00

01:57:26.680 regime media

01:57:27.320 well and it is

01:57:28.100 a competitive

01:57:28.560 market

01:57:29.060 because the

01:57:30.280 mainstream media

01:57:30.940 is not going

01:57:31.740 to Springfield

01:57:32.280 Ohio

01:57:32.660 where the

01:57:33.780 breaking news

01:57:34.420 about the

01:57:34.840 illegal immigrants

01:57:35.620 crashing cars 0.96

01:57:36.560 and you know

01:57:37.040 maybe eating

01:57:37.720 geese or whatever

01:57:38.500 is coming out

01:57:39.120 the mainstream

01:57:39.480 media is not

01:57:39.920 going so

01:57:40.620 independent

01:57:40.940 journalists go

01:57:41.520 out there

01:57:41.900 hey let me

01:57:42.640 see if I can

01:57:43.140 get a couple

01:57:44.620 million views

01:57:45.160 on my videos

01:57:45.700 maybe I make

01:57:46.320 a thousand

01:57:46.660 bucks

01:57:47.080 on my

01:57:48.040 X account

01:57:48.520 so it creates

01:57:49.040 a competitive

01:57:49.520 media market

01:57:50.300 too where the

01:57:50.960 mainstream media

01:57:51.460 just doesn't

01:57:52.340 even show up

01:57:52.880 they're not

01:57:53.120 even on the

01:57:54.120 field anymore

01:57:55.160 but you know

01:57:56.100 what you talk

01:57:56.680 about

01:57:57.020 it's you know

01:57:58.820 it's kind of

01:57:59.220 behind the

01:57:59.680 scenes stuff

01:58:00.280 don't air your

01:58:01.000 dirty laundry

01:58:01.480 stuff but it's

01:58:02.100 true and this

01:58:03.380 is why some

01:58:03.960 other independent

01:58:05.240 creators out there

01:58:06.340 and I won't I

01:58:07.760 won't name them

01:58:08.260 it's not an

01:58:08.640 insult it's just

01:58:09.280 what they have

01:58:09.620 to deal with

01:58:10.040 they'll be on

01:58:11.120 their show and

01:58:11.760 they'll say before

01:58:12.400 you go on hey

01:58:13.040 we don't talk

01:58:13.920 about these things

01:58:14.540 I'm on YouTube

01:58:15.260 that's how I pay

01:58:16.040 my bills we also

01:58:17.200 have Google Ads

01:58:17.960 if we get pulled

01:58:18.580 from Google Ads

01:58:19.180 if we get pulled

01:58:19.660 from YouTube

01:58:20.020 I'm done I got

01:58:21.380 it so again I

01:58:23.020 you know I'm not

01:58:23.740 trying to throw

01:58:24.140 anybody under the

01:58:24.620 bus that's the

01:58:25.420 nature of where

01:58:26.680 it's at when

01:58:28.020 you're relying on

01:58:29.060 these big tech

01:58:29.700 platforms you know

01:58:31.360 we were demonetized

01:58:32.240 by YouTube in

01:58:33.180 January of 2017

01:58:34.780 and then they

01:58:36.280 they took away

01:58:37.100 our they were

01:58:37.780 called super chats

01:58:38.680 or whatever so

01:58:39.200 we're we get

01:58:39.620 zero we got

01:58:40.640 almost 2 million

01:58:42.040 followers we get

01:58:42.740 zero money I

01:58:43.460 still love talking

01:58:44.560 to those folks but

01:58:45.380 it's not a business

01:58:46.260 thing it's just

01:58:46.840 propagating the

01:58:47.640 message we're

01:58:48.400 crowdfunding now but

01:58:49.160 here's the blessing

01:58:50.420 in disguise we lost

01:58:52.200 whatever ads we had

01:58:53.220 from the boycotts we

01:58:54.860 were demonetized by

01:58:56.000 YouTube we don't

01:58:57.400 take any government

01:58:58.120 money unlike 99% of

01:59:00.220 Canadian media so we

01:59:01.480 learned a way to

01:59:02.300 survive in 2017 2018

01:59:04.380 etc little did I know

01:59:06.580 at the time we were

01:59:08.480 preparing for something

01:59:09.460 that we didn't know

01:59:10.080 was coming I'm talking

01:59:10.960 about the pandemic

01:59:11.700 crisis of 2020 and had

01:59:14.720 we still been reliant

01:59:16.620 on YouTube well then

01:59:18.380 YouTube could say you

01:59:19.980 stop criticizing or

01:59:22.440 questioning the

01:59:23.120 narrative like I

01:59:23.940 don't know if you

01:59:24.340 ever looked at

01:59:25.040 YouTube's community

01:59:26.180 guidelines for talking

01:59:27.180 about COVID if you

01:59:28.580 talked about the

01:59:29.460 origin of the virus if

01:59:31.180 you contradicted health

01:59:32.540 officer told the truth

01:59:34.360 in other words yeah and

01:59:35.100 I'm not talking about

01:59:35.800 going really far out

01:59:37.020 there if you just

01:59:37.700 contradicted Fauci you

01:59:40.380 were at risk so it

01:59:41.860 was sort of like we

01:59:42.480 were a hostage but they

01:59:43.940 shot us already so they 0.99

01:59:45.000 had nothing more to do

01:59:45.820 to us so yeah we were

01:59:46.920 immune to government

01:59:48.100 sanctions we were immune

01:59:49.240 to corporate sanctions

01:59:50.440 because they had already

01:59:51.520 pulled those triggers on

01:59:52.680 us so that's it was a

01:59:54.260 very freedom that allowed

01:59:55.540 us to speak candidly when

01:59:56.860 very few other Canadian

01:59:58.240 media did well and it

02:00:00.140 kind of made you train

02:00:02.160 yourself on how to

02:00:04.040 survive in the age of

02:00:05.300 censorship to its code so

02:00:06.400 it's kind of like it's

02:00:07.660 like if there is a silver

02:00:08.520 lining or a blessing in

02:00:09.520 disguise it's like the

02:00:10.340 first people that got hit

02:00:11.400 with the censorship wave

02:00:12.560 were kind of prepared to

02:00:15.240 survive when it really came

02:00:17.080 down you know I was

02:00:18.060 thinking more about the

02:00:18.800 day where Alex Jones was

02:00:20.080 cancelled on the same

02:00:21.700 day by 14 different

02:00:24.260 platforms if I recall

02:00:25.460 including August 2018

02:00:27.140 there you go and you

02:00:28.920 know and it was an

02:00:29.560 umbrella it was like

02:00:30.340 anybody who works out of

02:00:31.360 this building they hit

02:00:32.140 you too wow I didn't

02:00:33.460 know that part now let's

02:00:36.160 just do a little thought

02:00:36.880 experiment here shoe on

02:00:37.920 the other foot let's say

02:00:39.180 under an administration

02:00:41.520 where I guess it was I

02:00:44.800 guess you're saying that

02:00:45.460 was under Trump but if it

02:00:47.020 was pushed by the

02:00:48.260 Republican Party and if

02:00:49.760 some Democrat outlet was

02:00:53.440 banned obviously with

02:00:55.480 collusion in an anti

02:00:57.200 competitive way don't tell

02:00:58.720 me there wouldn't be an

02:00:59.480 investigation in an

02:01:00.980 anti competitive like

02:01:02.000 don't tell me 14 companies

02:01:03.820 made the same decision on

02:01:05.320 the same day together on

02:01:07.360 their own I don't believe

02:01:08.260 it and don't tell me that

02:01:09.500 they didn't do so without

02:01:11.020 being coerced in some way

02:01:12.860 by some authorities whether

02:01:14.540 it's Gavin Newsom or

02:01:15.620 someone I don't know I

02:01:17.480 know this it would have

02:01:18.600 been investigated as some

02:01:20.120 sort of anti competitive

02:01:21.140 act it would have been

02:01:22.220 investigated as some

02:01:23.620 violation of the first

02:01:24.560 amendment not only did

02:01:25.900 that government protection

02:01:27.100 for freedom of speech and

02:01:28.300 protection from corporate

02:01:29.980 collusion not happen but

02:01:32.000 where were where was the

02:01:33.800 ACLU where were the the

02:01:36.440 media organizations and and

02:01:38.860 that was a test drive okay we

02:01:40.940 can get away with it with

02:01:42.080 Alex Jones because he's

02:01:43.360 spicy and he's a

02:01:44.260 conspiracy guy and he's

02:01:45.920 fringe we've already done

02:01:46.860 the character assassination

02:01:47.840 yeah and so okay who can

02:01:50.380 we go up against next and

02:01:51.960 who can we do next and that

02:01:53.960 was a great failure by a lot

02:01:56.440 of civil liberties

02:01:57.180 organizations and by true

02:01:59.620 journalists you don't have

02:02:00.580 to be a right winger to

02:02:01.820 support the freedom of

02:02:02.780 speech for a right winger and

02:02:04.600 that was right wingers were

02:02:06.220 celebrating it yeah well and

02:02:08.240 and I don't right I don't

02:02:09.800 want to go too into the weeds

02:02:10.940 on this deal but I mean I

02:02:13.620 watched that whole thing

02:02:14.360 play out it was really

02:02:15.240 about a two-year operation

02:02:16.520 and I watched that whole

02:02:17.500 thing play out from the

02:02:19.220 front row I mean I was

02:02:20.280 probably I mean I'm even in

02:02:21.760 the arena I'm watching him

02:02:22.640 hacking up Alex Jones and so

02:02:24.560 I watched that whole thing

02:02:25.840 lay out and once they kind

02:02:28.100 of got away with it with

02:02:29.240 Alex and then I started

02:02:30.500 seeing him doing the same

02:02:31.500 tactics to Trump and some of

02:02:32.920 his biggest supporters Mike

02:02:33.880 Lindell you name it I was

02:02:34.780 like they're coming for you

02:02:36.900 now and and so but now Mike

02:02:38.500 Lindell has Lindell TV and

02:02:39.960 so everybody's had to build

02:02:40.920 their own thing and then

02:02:42.140 thanks to X we're kind of

02:02:43.320 back in the the the

02:02:44.480 competitive market I want to

02:02:46.320 jump to something that you

02:02:47.160 talked about with this

02:02:49.020 transgender deal because I

02:02:50.600 got a story here and and I

02:02:52.280 know it's probably worse in

02:02:54.060 Canada I think because you

02:02:55.220 guys have highlighted some

02:02:56.080 stories in Canada where even

02:02:58.280 some of your reporters have

02:02:59.460 gone out and confronted some

02:03:00.740 of these men that are that

02:03:01.720 are playing with women or I

02:03:02.680 guess some of them are in

02:03:03.940 high school Boise State

02:03:05.380 women's volleyball forfeits

02:03:07.420 match over transgender 1.00

02:03:08.680 opponent Boise State is they

02:03:11.300 forfeited their match this

02:03:12.240 weekend against San Jose

02:03:13.220 State University because the

02:03:15.240 San Jose State women's

02:03:17.680 volleyball team has a man that

02:03:19.880 plays for their team and I'm

02:03:21.500 just gonna this is maybe one of

02:03:23.340 the easier tests you've ever

02:03:24.560 taken in your life but we're

02:03:25.700 gonna I'm gonna put you on the

02:03:26.520 spot here San Jose State has

02:03:30.260 played nine games this year

02:03:31.780 according to their website

02:03:33.280 they've played nine games this

02:03:34.620 year what do you think their

02:03:35.220 record is and so this is the

02:03:36.960 the the one with the guys on

02:03:39.200 it yes this is this has a man

02:03:40.340 on the team I'm gonna guess

02:03:41.320 they've won them all you're

02:03:42.680 gonna go nine and oh you know

02:03:44.340 I I don't I'm trying to measure

02:03:46.420 by your face if I'm guessing

02:03:47.580 wrong you're right no you're

02:03:49.200 right no they are undefeated

02:03:50.820 they are undefeated go figure

02:03:52.200 the women's team with a man on

02:03:54.760 it is undefeated you know and

02:03:58.100 and you say that's volleyball

02:03:59.400 okay so volleyball you could you

02:04:01.060 could hurt someone I guess but

02:04:02.760 imagine rugby there have been

02:04:04.320 issues with I believe it's

02:04:06.960 happened twice where a man

02:04:08.160 spiked a ball onto a woman's 0.99

02:04:09.380 head and cracked her skull I 0.97

02:04:10.660 believe it but but in Canada

02:04:13.660 there are men on rugby teams

02:04:16.400 which is by nature a contact

02:04:18.440 sport and we've you're right

02:04:21.680 we've sent reporters out into

02:04:22.820 the field many times and the

02:04:24.620 terrifying thing is that the 0.98

02:04:27.480 women are so brainwashed they 1.00

02:04:30.320 sort of lock arms around the 1.00

02:04:32.980 trans god so it's beyond the 1.00

02:04:34.640 conformity they're terrified of a

02:04:37.620 being called trans phobic of be

02:04:40.360 breaking away from all the

02:04:42.900 authority figures are saying we're

02:04:44.660 gonna have a guy and we're gonna

02:04:46.060 call him or her he's got male

02:04:47.920 pattern baldness he still is his

02:04:49.460 twig and berries he's he's a man

02:04:52.260 five o'clock shadow and they're all in

02:04:54.820 this delusion together it is you use

02:04:57.760 the phrase mass formation psychosis

02:04:59.440 there's something going on there

02:05:00.680 something cult-like and and they're

02:05:03.380 so terrified they just keep

02:05:04.720 chanting their their slogans how can

02:05:09.060 girls you know I well the answer is

02:05:12.800 they're terrified and if they speak

02:05:14.960 out in Canada especially they get

02:05:17.060 sanctioned not only do they have

02:05:19.780 their dreams as athletes ended but if

02:05:22.660 they speak out they're banned from the

02:05:25.020 league or from the sport Canada's

02:05:26.780 really bad on that stuff well and

02:05:29.000 imagine to here in America it was a 0.51

02:05:32.060 huge story in the early 2000s mostly

02:05:34.520 because of baseball or Lance Armstrong

02:05:36.200 about steroids so oh my gosh you know

02:05:39.720 this person used steroids that person

02:05:41.300 used steroids Lance Armstrong was

02:05:42.660 doping and it was all about an unfair

02:05:44.680 advantage it was all about what an

02:05:46.460 unfair advantage how unfair it was you

02:05:48.380 cheated the integrity of the game you

02:05:49.840 cheated the integrity of the sports you

02:05:51.280 cheated the integrity of the whole

02:05:52.460 history books and the records but a man

02:05:55.560 competing against women doesn't count 1.00

02:05:57.040 in that yeah and you have to

02:05:58.840 understand what's going on here you

02:06:00.180 know there was a in in Canada there

02:06:03.180 was a 50-something male to female

02:06:08.340 trans swimmer who would compete on a

02:06:11.360 team with teenage girls and then he

02:06:14.380 would go and change in the girls locker

02:06:16.340 room now there was also an all-gender

02:06:20.080 family locker room which had individual

02:06:23.100 stalls that he chose to go into the girls

02:06:27.380 change room even though there was an

02:06:28.760 all-gender why would he do that there's 1.00

02:06:31.820 another case in in Canada where a fella

02:06:34.380 male to female transgender says I want to

02:06:37.240 help in the women's shelter for battered

02:06:38.940 women and they say okay no problem you 1.00

02:06:40.740 can be with the guys on the fundraising

02:06:42.280 committee you can't get into the actual

02:06:44.200 shelter that will cause terror amongst the

02:06:47.220 women in there he said no I insist on being 1.00

02:06:49.820 in with the women why would these guys do 0.90

02:06:51.620 that because they want absolute final

02:06:55.020 proof that you are willing to go along

02:06:58.080 with the delusion that they are women and

02:06:59.980 the only way they can do that is for you

02:07:02.040 to say yes you can be in the women's 1.00

02:07:04.680 change room with the girls yes you can be

02:07:06.900 in the battered women's shelter with the

02:07:08.520 battered women they need to go where they 1.00

02:07:11.060 are forbidden to fulfill their psychological

02:07:13.540 quirk it they they must compete against

02:07:17.420 women they would not if there was a 1.00

02:07:18.860 transgender if there was male sports

02:07:21.560 female sports and trans sports no one 0.62

02:07:24.500 would go into the trans category because

02:07:26.720 they're not looking for that they're

02:07:27.840 looking to colonize I wonder means to be a

02:07:30.620 woman I wonder why you wouldn't just do

02:07:33.980 that because it's not because they have to

02:07:36.740 get you to it the reason why they're so

02:07:38.700 insistent on the pronouns it's ma'am you

02:07:42.480 know all those videos I'm saying like

02:07:43.740 nobody even suggest what you just said as

02:07:45.740 as a concept like hey let's just have a

02:07:47.500 league for trans no one would not one

02:07:49.780 person would go to it because they're

02:07:51.440 not looking to be trans they're looking 1.00

02:07:52.880 to be a woman and that's why they always 1.00

02:07:55.120 say well I mean that's why Matt Walsh's

02:07:57.740 movie with such a hit what is a woman 0.78

02:07:59.720 that you've got to say it or you failed

02:08:02.980 the woke test you must say it and you

02:08:05.260 must believe it it's so frustrating too

02:08:08.280 because you're just these people are not

02:08:10.840 intellectually honest is the problem

02:08:12.400 they're just completely intellectually

02:08:14.600 dishonest because on one hand they'll tell

02:08:16.620 you if you're a man you can't talk about 0.95

02:08:19.100 abortion issues because you're a man you're 0.88

02:08:20.960 not allowed to only women that's a woman's 0.58

02:08:22.860 thing but wait a second over here you're

02:08:25.820 saying that there's no there's not even a

02:08:27.040 distinction between a man and a woman so

02:08:28.760 what do you mean I can't so it's just

02:08:30.400 there's no logical consistency and I mean

02:08:33.420 even you can even go into the conversation

02:08:36.660 of like first wave second wave feminism 1.00

02:08:38.780 which created women's sports they didn't 1.00

02:08:40.640 even used to have women's sports yeah the 1.00

02:08:42.980 era of women's sports lasted about a 1.00

02:08:45.240 century it was only about 75 years well

02:08:47.560 that's why I'm like part of me is like

02:08:49.360 okay maybe I just go into this and I just

02:08:51.280 say yeah you know what male dominance like

02:08:54.260 we're coming into your sports spaces and 1.00

02:08:56.140 we're gonna kick your ass literally South 1.00

02:08:59.040 Park it sounds like you're quoting the 1.00

02:09:01.140 South Park strong woman I'm a strong woman I'm

02:09:04.320 gonna say and then and then the feminist 1.00

02:09:05.740 woman is like wait a second oh you know it 1.00

02:09:08.260 really is too bad I don't know if you ever

02:09:09.880 saw that photo of the first woman to run

02:09:12.040 the Boston Marathon before women were 1.00

02:09:13.700 allowed you ever see that photo and she

02:09:16.080 was running and sort of officials tried

02:09:18.260 to grab her I bet your team could find

02:09:20.840 Google it pretty quick the first woman 1.00

02:09:22.260 to run they're up against the clock and

02:09:23.900 they and they ran and grabbed her and 0.61

02:09:25.880 tried to physically pull her out so

02:09:27.140 women's sports is a new thing I think 1.00

02:09:29.060 it's a great thing and for safety and for

02:09:32.760 sexual safety you can't have guys 0.98

02:09:35.320 physically attacking women or changing with

02:09:38.020 them men have colonized women's spaces 1.00

02:09:40.080 and and this is part of the high trust

02:09:43.000 society we're allowing men into women's 1.00

02:09:44.760 spaces we're forcing it on them this is

02:09:47.340 the the largest under news story I think

02:09:50.540 in America right now they found it yeah

02:09:52.200 that's her you know the way to pull her 1.00

02:09:54.160 out women's sports got it oh my gosh they 0.99

02:09:57.300 even see women sometimes are their own

02:10:00.040 worst enemy so now what you're gonna have

02:10:02.220 in the WNBA is eventually men will take 0.96

02:10:04.440 over the WNBA but it's like they always

02:10:06.520 complain they want more money they always

02:10:08.420 complain nobody goes and sees their

02:10:09.700 sports now they finally have an athlete

02:10:11.720 that's drawing crowds and putting money

02:10:14.460 in their pocket and they all hate her

02:10:15.900 yeah they're all they all hate Caitlin 0.89

02:10:18.060 Clark they all try to kill her on the 0.97

02:10:19.540 court yeah so it's ironic all right we'll

02:10:21.400 do one more second final closing words

02:10:23.360 from Ezra Levant all right final segment

02:10:25.500 here with Ezra Levant from rebelnews.com

02:10:28.380 we're just talking about the future and I

02:10:29.780 mean look I have hope too I think you have

02:10:32.580 hope for Canada I have hope for America it's

02:10:35.120 getting over that hurdle of corruption and

02:10:37.260 propaganda and everything else that comes

02:10:40.060 with it but but you were mentioning you

02:10:41.540 got this event coming up you guys do these

02:10:43.600 events all the time over there at rebel

02:10:45.240 news and you were saying that one of your

02:10:47.920 speakers here is a former power lifter who

02:10:50.120 got banned a female power lifter why did 1.00

02:10:52.060 she get banned yeah I mean there's some

02:10:53.600 interesting characters there for folks in

02:10:55.140 Calgary we're having an event on on

02:10:57.720 Saturday you can go to rebelnewslive.com

02:11:00.220 we got two interesting characters at that

02:11:02.360 event one is Tamara Leach the head of the

02:11:04.380 trucker convoy who was jailed for 49

02:11:07.260 days and has just been through another

02:11:09.400 year and a half trial she's going to be

02:11:11.940 one of our keynote speakers so just an

02:11:14.340 amazing woman and then you see the lady on 1.00

02:11:16.340 the bottom right that's April Hutchinson

02:11:19.000 she's a power lifter a female power lifter 1.00

02:11:21.520 but because she dared to criticize the trans

02:11:24.880 guys in power lifting she was banned for 1.00

02:11:28.380 speaking out and that's the thing a woman 1.00

02:11:29.640 like that trains for years her heart set on

02:11:32.060 joining the national team maybe going to

02:11:33.540 the Olympics but you say one word about

02:11:36.320 the trans guys and your whole life's

02:11:38.320 ambitions are like that that's imagine the

02:11:41.300 terror you've you've gotten up early you've

02:11:43.280 gone to the gym you've trained for years

02:11:44.780 you're hoping to make the team but if you

02:11:46.540 dare say a word about the trans guy who's 1.00

02:11:49.400 competing against you you'll have your

02:11:51.540 dreams vaporized that's how they keep

02:11:53.680 female athletes in line it's a kind of a it's 1.00

02:11:57.880 kind of I don't know gaslighting you're

02:11:59.780 not you have to pretend you like it or

02:12:01.980 will destroy your career I mean imagine

02:12:04.140 well it's like you're damned if you do 0.65

02:12:05.380 you're damned if you don't so either the 0.71

02:12:06.800 man comes in and beats you or you better 0.99

02:12:08.980 shut up about it and you get kicked out

02:12:10.560 that's why the team anytime a team refuses 0.99

02:12:13.440 to play against another team with a trans

02:12:15.220 on it absolute kudos for them yeah and 0.75

02:12:19.020 which sucks for them but I mean gotta take

02:12:22.120 a stand yeah I'm curious if there's any

02:12:24.820 Canadian athletes because slowly but

02:12:27.260 surely we've had American athletes that 0.87

02:12:29.080 are more let's say open to speaking their

02:12:32.000 mind or even you know promoting Donald

02:12:33.880 Trump which we probably didn't see at all

02:12:37.480 in 2016 if we did it was like I think the

02:12:41.040 one instance was like Tom Brady kind of

02:12:42.700 hid a MAGA hat in his locker and it was

02:12:44.600 like you know but other than that it was

02:12:46.520 like now people come out they take

02:12:47.600 photos they promote Trump they say he's

02:12:49.200 great they say they like him is there

02:12:50.420 anybody like that in Canada I mean I

02:12:51.960 guess maybe the biggest athlete is Connor

02:12:54.220 McDavid he likes to skate around in a

02:12:56.020 rainbow flag is there anyone else you

02:12:58.460 know the only people I've seen in

02:13:00.340 athletics speaking out for Trump are

02:13:03.180 MMA fighters yeah they're part they're

02:13:05.800 really deeply what about like against

02:13:07.540 Trudeau you know what they don't dare do

02:13:09.880 it because it's so corporate and so

02:13:11.680 woke and so politically correct these

02:13:13.960 guys would be marginalized there was an

02:13:15.860 incident the other day someone came

02:13:17.700 close to expressing an opinion they

02:13:19.400 were just destroyed hockey players in

02:13:21.780 Canada that's our main sport they're

02:13:23.560 pretty guys guys I would be the NHL is

02:13:27.660 like 90% conservative I worked NHL for

02:13:30.320 four years but they don't dare say a word

02:13:32.380 because it is so tightly controlled it

02:13:34.960 would be like if Bud Light owned the

02:13:38.900 franchise people would be scared to say

02:13:41.820 like like they're so politically correct

02:13:43.940 they just they just shut up and play

02:13:45.940 which I suppose is a good thing like we

02:13:48.000 don't necessarily maybe people would

02:13:50.640 prefer that athletes do athlete stuff

02:13:52.600 but I think it's out of terror that

02:13:54.600 they don't say a word because they

02:13:55.840 would destroy their careers not because

02:13:57.840 the fans would want their careers no

02:13:59.520 they'd have the top-selling jersey yeah

02:14:00.960 it's just that the league there was it

02:14:02.500 there was that one Canadian player who

02:14:04.100 refused to do the gay pride event and

02:14:06.640 he had the top-selling jersey like the

02:14:07.900 next day you know what I remember that

02:14:09.220 now that you mention it and and he said

02:14:11.120 well my religious beliefs I don't he was a

02:14:12.720 Russian he was a Russian that's you know

02:14:14.440 it's that that's a very rare counter

02:14:17.000 example because all the other examples

02:14:18.720 go the other way where there's total

02:14:20.680 conformity I that's Canada for you

02:14:23.800 cancel culture is strong up there it's

02:14:26.700 so crazy though NHL is probably the most

02:14:28.880 conservative maybe MLB but I mean I

02:14:31.240 would go into the broadcast booth with

02:14:32.720 these Canadian broadcasters they're the

02:14:34.800 biggest Canadian Patriot they're just

02:14:36.100 beer drinking hockey watching hockey

02:14:38.640 loving Canadian Patriots man but it's

02:14:40.860 like hey you got you say the wrong thing

02:14:42.800 on air yeah you got to be careful the

02:14:44.720 corporations come for you all right

02:14:45.900 Ezra Levant rebel news calm where are

02:14:47.900 the places people can follow you

02:14:49.080 well that's the best place I mean I am

02:14:50.520 on Twitter obviously Ezra Levant is my

02:14:52.320 name and we have a company Twitter

02:14:53.880 account which I think is pretty fun it's

02:14:55.400 called rebel news online but we're

02:14:57.840 pretty easy to find we mainly cover

02:14:59.760 Canada but we also have a great guy in

02:15:01.820 Australia Abiyamini we cover American

02:15:04.160 stuff sometimes and we love going rebel

02:15:06.240 news in force brothers in arms all

02:15:08.780 right great hour with Ezra Levant that's

02:15:10.520 about as Alex Jones of Canada as you're 0.50

02:15:13.100 going to get right there and so we

02:15:16.300 really like what rebel news does and we

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Rebel News Podcast - October 01, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ The war for truth： In the studio with Alex Jones

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