Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Tommy Robinson supports Britain's Jews, and gets punished for it

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I'm in London today for the trial of Tommy Robinson.

00:00:04.120 Well, there's been a lot of those trials, but this one is a weird one.

00:00:07.600 A political critic called police and said, get him out of here.

00:00:11.520 And the police obeyed and arrested Tommy and banned him from London, exiled him.

00:00:18.260 Tommy's in court fighting that. I'll give you the full report.

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00:00:58.100 Tonight, I'm in London for the latest trial of Tommy Robinson.

00:01:07.160 It's not looking good. It's January 22nd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:11.760 You're fighting for freedom.

00:01:14.660 Shame on you, you sensorism bug.

00:01:17.820 I'm standing outside the Westminster Magistrates Court.

00:01:30.120 There's so many different ancient courts in this country with peculiar names.

00:01:34.980 Westminster, of course, is a district, a jurisdiction of its own, right in the heart of London.

00:01:40.340 You've probably heard of Westminster Abbey or the Palace of Westminster,

00:01:44.040 which is a fancy name for the parliament buildings.

00:01:47.200 It's at this court that Tommy Robinson has been brought to answer the most bizarre accusations,

00:01:55.060 something that reminds me of how Canada has been treating trucker protesters.

00:02:00.960 It started a few months ago.

00:02:03.180 You might remember I came to London for the massive pro-Hamas protests in the streets

00:02:09.180 when probably 100,000 people were chanting for genocide and intifada and death to the Jews.

00:02:16.940 Remember that? 0.99

00:02:17.620 Shame on you! 1.00

00:02:30.120 Shame on you! 1.00

00:02:31.020 Shame on you! 1.00

00:02:32.460 Shame on you! 1.00

00:03:02.440 And by that, the pro-Jewish side had a march of their own.

00:03:06.380 They called it a march against anti-Semitism.

00:03:08.820 It wasn't particularly a march for Israel.

00:03:11.580 It was just a march against all the anti-Semitic hate that had been rolling through the streets of the city.

00:03:19.180 I saw estimates of up to 50,000 people.

00:03:21.740 That may have been a little bit liberal a number,

00:03:23.780 but it was a counterpoint to the Hamas hate that was on the streets of London.

00:03:28.060 I went there because I was curious about it, and I did some reports.

00:03:32.580 Do you remember that?

00:03:33.160 So you're worried about anti-Semitism, your kids are in college, they're worried, it's a tough time, they're outnumbered.

00:03:39.160 You agree with me that some of these places are anti-Semitic endemically,

00:03:43.160 but you're not against pumping the brakes on unvetted anti-Semitic immigration.

00:03:50.320 Truth will win through in the end.

00:03:51.920 Don't you see that you've created, you're supporting the monster that's destroying you?

00:03:57.440 Truth will win through in the end.

00:03:58.860 No, it won't.

00:03:59.700 Do you think Pakistan or Syria or Afghanistan are suddenly going to become philo-Semitic?

00:04:05.600 Truth will win through in the end.

00:04:07.420 Yeah, I'd love your view.

00:04:08.740 Please do.

00:04:09.480 It's not just a case, you know, the issue isn't just immigration.

00:04:13.460 I know.

00:04:13.980 It's also adopting British values.

00:04:16.300 Excellent, yes.

00:04:17.080 Not happening.

00:04:18.320 Right.

00:04:18.780 Not adopting British values.

00:04:20.500 They're not being taught British values.

00:04:22.440 I think you're confusing many different things.

00:04:25.060 I think there's nothing wrong with understanding the importance of immigration,

00:04:29.500 of understanding the importance of bringing people and helping people who want to come from other countries

00:04:35.420 to be part of this wonderful country.

00:04:38.220 Do you think we should put the brakes on Muslim immigration? 1.00

00:04:41.680 No, absolutely not. 0.86

00:04:43.420 No, absolutely not. 0.95

00:04:46.260 The problem is not Muslims. 1.00

00:04:47.880 The problem is right-wing, nasty, fascist Muslim fundamentalists. 1.00

00:04:54.180 The real problem is anti-Semitism in the Muslim community. 1.00

00:04:58.320 Anti-Semitism is not compatible with Western values.

00:05:01.620 And that's the problem.

00:05:02.600 Not the fact that people are coming here.

00:05:04.220 Because there are wonderful people who come here as well.

00:05:06.440 Do you think Islamophobia is a problem in the UK?

00:05:08.480 I can't comment.

00:05:10.240 I'm not a Muslim myself.

00:05:12.220 I believe so because of the statistics.

00:05:15.940 There's rising hate, I think, across the spectrum.

00:05:19.060 I'm here particularly against anti-Semitism because it's a disproportional amount in comparison to the Jewish community.

00:05:27.420 So I stand in solidarity with Jews all over the world.

00:05:29.940 Well, I wasn't the only one reporting that day.

00:05:33.480 My old friend and colleague, Tommy Robinson, who used to work for Rebel News, but now has his own platform called Urban Scoop, he was there, too, with a cameraman.

00:05:43.360 And I didn't know that.

00:05:44.700 I went to this pro-Israel or anti-March against anti-Semitism.

00:05:50.620 I went there a little bit early.

00:05:52.520 And there was a coffee shop.

00:05:54.400 And who's in the coffee shop but Tommy Robinson?

00:05:57.500 It was an astonishing coincidence, but not actually a coincidence at all.

00:06:01.720 That's where everyone who went really early was hanging out.

00:06:05.400 Tommy told me, after we said our hellos, that the police had come to him and told him he must leave.

00:06:13.100 Tommy said, I've done nothing wrong.

00:06:15.120 I'm just literally having my breakfast in a coffee shop.

00:06:17.780 As you can see, I've got my microphone and my cameraman.

00:06:20.740 I did nothing wrong.

00:06:22.060 I've committed no crime.

00:06:22.940 I don't want to leave.

00:06:24.240 But they said that one of the organizers of the March against anti-Semitism named Gideon Falter, a left-wing Jewish activist, put his left-wingedness ahead of his Jewishness and said to the cops, I don't like Tommy Robinson.

00:06:38.480 He makes me feel, quote, tense.

00:06:41.140 Well, a lot of things make me feel tense.

00:06:43.300 One of them was 100,000 pro-Hamas marches through the streets of London.

00:06:47.660 Gideon Falter didn't ask police to clear them out.

00:06:50.320 And the police didn't have the means or the motive to do so.

00:06:54.140 But Tommy Robinson and his cameraman, they were easy pickings.

00:06:57.860 And so with no crime committed, the police essentially told Tommy to scram.

00:07:03.240 They gave him a dispersal notice, which is a weird thing.

00:07:07.800 If you look at the word disperse, that's, you know, disperse a crowd.

00:07:11.360 There's 50 people, disperse the crowd.

00:07:13.460 How does one person disperse?

00:07:16.780 What a laugh.

00:07:17.740 But Tommy said, no, I'm here as a working journalist and my civil rights are protected.

00:07:23.760 Well, the cops weren't having any of that.

00:07:25.540 I don't know if you remember, but I was standing right there because, of course, I was chatting with Tommy and I could see the police sort of eyeballing things.

00:07:35.180 It was very peaceful.

00:07:36.240 It was very calm.

00:07:37.400 And people who saw Tommy, they were sort of excited because they know he's a powerful communicator and they know he's from a different world.

00:07:45.800 The Gideon Falters of the world and all the fancy pants who were there, they're middle class or a little bit, I don't know, I don't know my class structure in the UK. 0.99

00:07:54.480 But they were the fancy people, the good people, the righteous people, the wealthy people, the powerful people.

00:07:59.740 But to have an ally in Tommy Robinson, who's a working class Brit, who is from the North, who has a bit of an accent as opposed to the Queen's received pronunciation.

00:08:11.120 I think a lot of Jews at that rally thought it's nice to have some allies because so many of the woke professor class have gone full anti-Semitic.

00:08:20.000 So I was there and I didn't hear a single voice raised against Tommy.

00:08:25.160 And I'm telling you, I was a foot away from him.

00:08:27.220 In fact, when the police finally made their move against Tommy, the Jews said, shame on you, to the cops.

00:08:35.700 Here, take a look.

00:08:36.680 Leave him alone.

00:08:37.960 Leave him alone.

00:08:40.620 Leave him alone.

00:08:45.400 Let's do it, let's move it, let's move it.

00:08:50.640 Move forward, move forward, move forward, move forward, move forward.

00:08:57.220 Move back.

00:08:57.860 Move back, move back.

00:08:59.680 No.

00:09:00.760 Move out of the way, you'll be arrested.

00:09:02.840 I don't care.

00:09:03.520 I don't care.

00:09:04.000 The police.

00:09:04.560 I don't care.

00:09:05.080 Just move out of the way. 0.95

00:09:06.020 The police just move out of the way.

00:09:07.980 Move, move back.

00:09:09.600 Just keep on moving.

00:09:11.160 Keep moving.

00:09:12.220 Well, saying shame on you to the police doesn't really work because I don't think they have shame in 2023, 2024.

00:09:18.460 At least not Sadiq Khan's D-E-I, Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Metropolitan Police.

00:09:26.260 Incredibly, they sent 30 cops.

00:09:28.140 They pepper sprayed him.

00:09:29.300 They handcuffed him.

00:09:30.560 They took him to jail.

00:09:31.540 And they released him saying he's not allowed back in the city of London.

00:09:36.880 Not just for that hour or that day, but he's just not allowed back.

00:09:42.180 The capital city.

00:09:43.880 Tommy went to court and got a slight variation on that bail.

00:09:46.940 He's allowed to come to the city of London to meet with his lawyers and to go to court.

00:09:51.740 Thanks very much for that.

00:09:53.360 And if a particular policeman named Officer Shaw, who happens to be Muslim, approves of where Tommy goes.

00:10:02.600 And Tommy told me last night that he has said to this Officer Shaw,

00:10:06.220 I'd like to meet this particular member of Parliament, Andrew Bridgen.

00:10:09.180 And Officer Shaw said, no, just because I'm the cop and I suddenly have the power of a judge.

00:10:16.360 I've never heard of that before.

00:10:17.700 Have you ever heard of that?

00:10:18.860 Where a policeman who is probably antipathetic to Tommy ideologically anyways,

00:10:25.460 gets to vet Tommy's personal life, who he meets with.

00:10:28.760 And I've never heard of an MP.

00:10:31.040 And I understand Tommy also wants to meet with a peer, a member of the House of Lords.

00:10:34.040 I didn't know that just some cop on the street, some beat cop,

00:10:38.740 who may or may not have a grudge against Tommy,

00:10:41.740 has the power to deny two sitting members of Parliament,

00:10:45.580 an MP and a member of the House of Lords, the right to meet with a citizen.

00:10:48.760 That's quite incredible.

00:10:49.580 I'm learning so much about the cradle of democracy, the mother of all parliaments.

00:10:53.500 I'm learning so much about civil liberties here in the United Kingdom.

00:10:57.360 It's incredible that all this started because some left-wing Jew 1.00

00:11:00.100 had a vendetta against Tommy and told the cops, arrest him.

00:11:03.960 And so they did.

00:11:04.840 I just think that that is a terrifying thing.

00:11:07.620 Worse even than what we see in Canada these days.

00:11:10.200 And that's quite something.

00:11:11.160 So today's hearing was to set a formal trial for Tommy's appeal of this order

00:11:19.920 and also to seek a variation on those bail conditions that he has right now.

00:11:25.100 But the first matter was, in British court, it's a legal custom where the accused stands up,

00:11:35.380 says their name, says their date of birth, says their profession or occupation,

00:11:40.280 and says their home address.

00:11:43.480 But about that last part, Tommy Robinson has received 12 death threats from the police.

00:11:51.000 And what I mean by that is the police intelligence, the national security intelligence,

00:11:56.920 through tips or sources or surveillance, have 12 realistic, imminent, actionable warnings of death threats.

00:12:07.320 So it's not just some guy on Twitter saying, I'm going to kill you.

00:12:10.460 It's not just something like that.

00:12:11.780 It's something in the UK called an Osmond warning.

00:12:16.200 And it was a case where the police had a warning about a death threat but didn't do anything.

00:12:24.360 So now there's this illegal custom in the UK.

00:12:28.340 If the police know there's a real death threat about you,

00:12:31.660 they have to hand deliver the details to you at your home.

00:12:35.800 Imagine how terrifying that would be.

00:12:37.680 You're at your house and a cop knocks on your door and they hand you a paper saying,

00:12:42.060 here are the details of a realistic death threat against you.

00:12:46.560 You can't say we didn't tell you.

00:12:48.580 Oh, and by the way, in the UK, you're not allowed to get a firearm to defend yourself.

00:12:52.760 And Tommy Robinson has received 12 of these Osmond warnings.

00:12:58.380 And his wife, Jenna, has received three of them.

00:13:02.760 So you can imagine why Tommy didn't want to stand up in open court with a pack of media jackals there

00:13:09.140 and say his home address, which is confidential.

00:13:12.580 And so Tommy's lawyer, a senior king's counsel, said,

00:13:16.020 Your Honor, the judge, sorry, the court knows the address.

00:13:19.420 The police know the address.

00:13:21.480 Tommy's not hiding it.

00:13:22.980 Everyone who needs to know knows.

00:13:25.080 We just don't want it said in public because there were a grand total of 15 death threats

00:13:31.220 against Tommy and his family, according to the police.

00:13:33.800 And the judge said, hmm, let's think about it.

00:13:37.900 Hey, journalists, do any of you have a comment?

00:13:39.800 She says that.

00:13:40.980 And one jackal with the evening standard stood up and went on how it's his right to publish 0.80

00:13:48.740 Tommy's home address.

00:13:50.460 And Tommy talks about, you know, openness of justice.

00:13:54.160 I want to publish Tommy's home address.

00:13:56.180 I swear to God, he stood up and must have talked for five minutes about his right to be able

00:14:02.780 to tell the country where Tommy's wife and kids live.

00:14:07.240 I swear to God that happened.

00:14:09.960 Tommy's case, he stood up and said that, you know, this is an exceptional case.

00:14:14.240 I mean, I don't believe that there'd be a single other Brit who has had 15 warnings to him and his wife.

00:14:21.260 I mean, have you, I can't even imagine that.

00:14:23.260 And the judge ruled in favor of disclosing.

00:14:29.200 Looks like Tommy's coming out right now.

00:14:31.320 Let's see what he has to say.

00:14:32.820 The evening standard, is he still in here?

00:14:34.360 Has he come out with you?

00:14:35.300 The report from the evening standard argued that I have to give my address.

00:14:39.800 The judge ruled that I had to read my address out in open court,

00:14:42.960 at which point I read out and they fixed the boat.

00:14:45.040 But I just still can't believe that they've done that.

00:14:47.620 Let me read you this.

00:14:48.480 Let me read you this.

00:14:49.300 For everyone who witnessed what happened on that day, yeah?

00:14:51.080 Let me just read you, because we only got served the evidence last night.

00:14:55.380 So let me read you the police's statement.

00:15:00.100 Why is I not turning?

00:15:03.880 Police's statement.

00:15:05.480 Given the large numbers of people trying to breach the police cordon around us

00:15:08.940 and Tommy trying to break away, I was concerned that he would flee and escape lawful custody.

00:15:14.700 I drew my cat duck irritant spray and sprayed his face.

00:15:18.400 Now, anyone who watched that, that is the justification for CS gas in my eyes,

00:15:22.880 was I was going to break away from lawful custody. 0.99

00:15:25.480 I had 30 fucking police officers around me. 1.00

00:15:28.440 30, yeah? 1.00

00:15:29.280 I was handcuffed.

00:15:30.860 What were they talking about?

00:15:32.260 They're also saying here, I threw my arms out, knocking their cuffs off.

00:15:36.100 Everything they say, I'm going to put together a clip-by-clip frame of what they say.

00:15:40.100 It's just blatant lies.

00:15:41.200 The problem is, well, who's the mainstream journalist here?

00:15:43.480 You, you.

00:15:44.420 All they will do is report what the police say.

00:15:47.020 So the headline will say, Tommy Robinson threatened police officer with violence.

00:15:50.780 That's what they'll say, yeah?

00:15:52.720 Luckily, other people are here.

00:15:54.060 Luckily, Ezra's here.

00:15:54.780 Luckily, there are other reporters here that will actually report what actually happened,

00:15:58.160 what we saw on the video and what went on.

00:16:00.480 I just still, I still can't believe that they've tried to get my, they've tried to get my address.

00:16:04.660 And as I said, I'm, I was removed from a rally because the organiser said it might make him feel tense.

00:16:12.780 How do they think my family will feel if their address is pumped all over the country tonight?

00:16:17.400 Which is what they just tried to do.

00:16:18.920 I still can't believe they tried.

00:16:19.860 I still cannot believe they've just tried to do that.

00:16:21.580 But the lot, the statements are lies.

00:16:24.620 I've pled not guilty on five different counts.

00:16:26.960 The actual dispersal order was unlawful.

00:16:29.500 If you read the conditions, they can't give it to someone who's at work.

00:16:32.060 I was at work.

00:16:32.720 I have a contract to be at work.

00:16:33.940 I had a cameraman with me who was paid to be at work.

00:16:36.040 I was there to report.

00:16:37.940 I just think that the entirety of this, it isn't about me being on trial.

00:16:41.440 I just think it's the public should be made aware of the police state we live in.

00:16:44.720 The judge has just given, my trial date is St. George's Day.

00:16:48.000 How about that, yeah?

00:16:48.540 So I'm on trial on St. George's Day.

00:16:50.540 But the date, I'm now banned for another three months.

00:16:53.900 I'm now not allowed.

00:16:54.840 So I have a meeting now with someone who I'm doing a podcast with.

00:16:58.760 I have to leave London.

00:17:00.280 I have to leave London instantly or I go to jail.

00:17:02.960 So I just find the whole thing remarkable.

00:17:04.480 I find it remarkable that no other journalists or no other commentators from the mainstream 0.99

00:17:09.400 or no other journalists, say there's journalists here, actually give a shit that someone doesn't 0.98

00:17:13.920 commit a crime, gets assaulted by the police, gets attacked by the police, and then gets 0.98

00:17:17.100 their rights and freedoms taken away.

00:17:18.380 It's outrageous.

00:17:18.940 So we have a situation where you've got all these Islamists that have been driving through 1.00

00:17:24.940 Finchley, for example, asking, calling to rape Jewish girls and all that. 0.99

00:17:28.420 They can come to London. 1.00

00:17:29.640 They haven't got a bail.

00:17:30.820 You haven't hurt anyone.

00:17:32.340 And you've got a bail.

00:17:33.540 You can't come to London. 0.92

00:17:34.460 How ridiculous is that? 0.95

00:17:35.300 These groups are continuously calling for rallies, holding rallies, flying terrorist 0.98

00:17:39.120 flags.

00:17:39.520 None of them have been given conditions banning them from inside the M25.

00:17:42.780 Yeah.

00:17:43.260 What becomes apparent is, so I've organized a rally on Saturday in Telford.

00:17:47.920 What this is about is inside the M25, they have such a Islamic extremist problem that rather

00:17:53.500 than deal with that problem, the one person they think might cause an opposition to it

00:17:56.780 or might highlight it, they've banned me.

00:17:59.500 So they took my rights away.

00:18:00.660 But that may be London today, but that will just move to other cities.

00:18:03.540 When they've done this, my Barrett, my actual King's Council said, if they're banning you

00:18:08.680 from inside the M25, what's the stop and pick in other cities with these conditions?

00:18:13.280 He said, nothing.

00:18:14.740 I don't understand.

00:18:15.940 The march against anti-Semitism was a one-day thing.

00:18:19.300 It was a particular activist, Gideon Falter, who said he was tense.

00:18:22.860 But that's over.

00:18:24.480 What's the theory behind banning you for five months?

00:18:28.260 What are they saying?

00:18:29.280 I don't get it.

00:18:30.060 They don't say anything, because I asked for permission to bring my children in for the

00:18:33.200 Christmas lights.

00:18:34.640 Now, reverse the revolt.

00:18:35.860 Reverse the situation.

00:18:37.140 A Muslim being banned from inside the M25, who then has a religious festival, a religious

00:18:40.960 thing, and they're not letting him in for it.

00:18:42.580 That's what they said to me.

00:18:43.320 No.

00:18:43.900 I asked, am I allowed to go watch Luton play in London?

00:18:46.060 No.

00:18:46.760 Am I allowed to?

00:18:47.440 I'm not allowed.

00:18:48.200 Am I allowed to go shopping in London?

00:18:49.300 No.

00:18:49.720 I asked what the relevance is.

00:18:50.980 I know what the relevance is.

00:18:52.020 The relevance is, they saw that on Armatice Day, men come together.

00:18:55.700 They were so fearful that men will come together.

00:18:58.440 They have allowed Islamic radicals to take over this capital city week in, week out, and 1.00

00:19:02.800 they fear a resistance to it.

00:19:04.200 The one person they think might bring that resistance is myself, so their idea is, we

00:19:08.040 don't care.

00:19:08.500 We'll abuse legal laws.

00:19:09.520 We'll abuse our powers, and we'll ban him.

00:19:11.580 And then for them, that solves.

00:19:12.940 They don't mind letting Hamas take control of the city. 0.80

00:19:15.700 They don't mind them climbing up memorials, desecrating memorials, because there's no opposition

00:19:19.280 to them.

00:19:19.860 So the police don't come under attack.

00:19:21.460 So the police are quite happy.

00:19:22.460 Let them do it.

00:19:23.200 We'll stand back.

00:19:23.940 Let them run and mock. 1.00

00:19:24.960 Let them terrorize Jews. 1.00

00:19:25.920 Let them terrorize whoever they want, yeah? 0.99

00:19:27.820 That's how they do it.

00:19:28.980 And you hear the police officers when they get asked in the street, there's not enough

00:19:31.680 of us.

00:19:32.300 There's not enough of us.

00:19:33.400 We know there's not enough of you.

00:19:34.460 But when they saw on Armatice Day that British men were willing to come out on the streets, 0.97

00:19:38.500 I think that would have worried them, and I think they just thought, whatever it takes

00:19:41.040 now, get rid of him. 0.76

00:19:42.900 That's what they've done.

00:19:43.760 So far, it's going to be, by the time trial comes, six months.

00:19:47.260 I don't think I should agree to those conditions.

00:19:49.920 I currently have.

00:19:51.100 I don't think there should be no police or government that should be able to ban a journalist.

00:19:55.840 from any city if they haven't broke a law, yeah?

00:19:58.500 I haven't been convicted of anything.

00:20:00.200 We all know I didn't break a law.

00:20:01.400 I was sitting having a breakfast.

00:20:02.700 Everyone's watched what's going on here.

00:20:04.600 They should not be able to limit my freedom.

00:20:07.260 My freedom of the press, my freedom of assembly, my freedom of movement has been taken away

00:20:11.020 from me so far for three months, and it's going to be another three.

00:20:12.880 I was shocked by the evening standard going on for about five minutes about why they should

00:20:19.400 be able to publish your home address, which has got nothing to do with the case at hand.

00:20:23.980 But I assumed that the judge would have said, well, this is an extreme case, 15 death threats

00:20:30.560 to you and your missus.

00:20:33.460 But the judge didn't.

00:20:34.520 The judge demanded that you give your home address there.

00:20:37.560 I was stunned by that.

00:20:39.460 Have you had any support from any press organization?

00:20:44.920 I mean, it was incredible that it was a journalist stabbing you, not even the prosecutor.

00:20:52.480 What's going on?

00:20:53.440 I just have never seen anything like that.

00:20:55.080 Journalists wanted my address to be given out, which is purposely trying to endanger my family.

00:20:59.760 There's no news value to it.

00:21:01.500 There's no need for it.

00:21:03.160 And the point the judge made, she's got my address.

00:21:05.720 I wrote it down.

00:21:06.680 I handed it to her.

00:21:07.700 Here's my address.

00:21:08.600 Yeah.

00:21:09.060 But the argument was they want it read out in open court so then the media can run it.

00:21:13.060 So then when they run it, it brings danger to my family.

00:21:16.020 They know exactly what they're doing.

00:21:17.760 They know exactly what they're doing.

00:21:18.800 I shouldn't be in court A.

00:21:20.200 I shouldn't have been banned from London for five months.

00:21:21.860 And they're not just happy with that.

00:21:23.500 They then want to bring endangerment to my family.

00:21:25.300 That's it.

00:21:25.720 They spend almost as much time trying to get your address as they did on the substance of the hearing.

00:21:30.740 Yeah.

00:21:31.220 And unfortunately, this now goes to trial April 22nd and April 23rd.

00:21:36.200 It goes to trial.

00:21:37.180 And unfortunately, with the media, what the media will report is the police allegations.

00:21:42.080 Now, do you know in the last trial, when I was here last time, the police officer's evidence was that the crowd was shouting, shame on you, at me.

00:21:50.460 You know who knew I was there that day?

00:21:51.680 I was right there.

00:21:52.520 When the police started taking me away, the crowd turned on the police shouting, shame on you.

00:21:55.700 They totally changed the context, said that they needed to remove me because the crowd were angry with me.

00:22:01.320 It's like, but it doesn't matter because unless people watch what happened, the media will tell the story.

00:22:07.220 So the media will come here today.

00:22:08.980 The media aren't going to report any argument.

00:22:10.740 What you've reported about the threats to my, about trying to expose my address and trying to endanger my family, no mainstream media will even talk about that.

00:22:17.500 They'll just run Stephen Lennon off and give an address if they can.

00:22:20.720 But yeah, I find the whole thing remarkable.

00:22:23.080 I find it remarkable that no mainstream commentators, no TV news have even focused on the fact that I'm banned from London.

00:22:28.980 I shouldn't be banned from London.

00:22:30.460 There should be no powers given to any police force or government to ban a journalist from entering anywhere.

00:22:35.000 Do you know why I have to ask permission?

00:22:36.700 This is the insane piece.

00:22:38.480 We went to court.

00:22:39.340 So, so far, this has cost me £24,800.

00:22:42.660 Yeah, £24,800 because they attacked me.

00:22:45.880 So this is part of a lawfare strategy that's put on people.

00:22:49.140 Any activists or any journalists that come out, this lawfare has been directed.

00:22:52.860 If you look at Alex Jones' case, a billion pounds, it's like, even if he was in the wrong, a billion pounds, like, it's lawfare. 0.96

00:22:58.340 Yeah, you're tying us up legally, you're tying us up financially, but no one seems to give a shit about it. 0.77

00:23:02.420 No other mainstream commentators, no other media seem to care about it, but they shouldn't be able to do it. 0.82

00:23:07.020 And it's cost £24,000.

00:23:07.980 And I've appealed and asked to come into London.

00:23:11.200 And when I took it to the judge to say, I want to come into London, I then have to apply to DC Shah, a Muslim police officer. 0.82

00:23:17.680 And I applied for three meetings.

00:23:19.240 One was to an event where Andrew Bridgen was, an MP.

00:23:22.080 Another one was Carl Benjamin.

00:23:24.140 So three different things.

00:23:25.520 He just said no.

00:23:26.680 He just said no.

00:23:27.320 So then I come back to court again at extra costs.

00:23:29.780 And what the judge said is, every time you want to try and come into London, you can come back before me.

00:23:34.060 What, for £4,800?

00:23:35.640 For £4,800 each day.

00:23:38.020 It's like, they basically took my rights.

00:23:40.140 But what people are witnessing now, they've done this since 2009.

00:23:42.820 Since my activism with the English Defence League, I wasn't allowed to send an email.

00:23:45.480 I wasn't allowed in a group of three or more people.

00:23:47.080 All on bail.

00:23:48.360 This isn't court orders. 0.99

00:23:49.360 This is all conditions given on bail for stupid little charges, which is what they've done now. 0.95

00:23:54.000 My point is, if I'd have pled guilty today, I'd have got probably maximums three months, but I'd probably get a fine, yeah? 0.93

00:23:59.360 And then I can go in London tomorrow.

00:24:01.420 But instead, I'm not guilty.

00:24:03.480 I didn't do anything wrong.

00:24:04.840 They acted unlawfully, not me.

00:24:06.340 They caused a breach of the peace, not me.

00:24:08.160 And now I await trial.

00:24:09.380 So I'll go to trial now.

00:24:10.320 There'll probably be another £10,000, £15,000 cost.

00:24:13.340 It's insane.

00:24:14.460 It's insane.

00:24:15.680 I'll say a thank you to anyone who's watching this who has supported my legal costs.

00:24:18.180 And what I'm trying to do here is I'm putting together a documentary about this.

00:24:21.720 And I want it to be not me on trial.

00:24:23.260 I want the British police state to be on trial.

00:24:24.860 I want the public to watch what they've done.

00:24:26.400 I want them to see the cost of fighting for freedom.

00:24:28.220 And I want everyone to see that I'm exhausted every legal avenue with the best counsel you can get.

00:24:34.680 So the best defence teams you can get, I've exhausted every avenue to try and get my rights back.

00:24:39.660 Again today, I've been refused again.

00:24:41.860 I do not agree to being banned from my capital C.

00:24:44.940 I do not accept six months of not being able to report on issues that are important to not just me, but to you in the capital C.

00:24:52.260 So I'm going to go away.

00:24:53.180 I've got a very important date next Saturday in Telford, and then I'm going to evaluate where I go next with this case.

00:24:58.120 Well, there you have it.

00:24:59.140 I've got a scrum outside the Westminster Magistrates Court with Tommy Robinson and a number of citizen journalists.

00:25:07.300 Earlier I saw a photographer from the AFP.

00:25:11.300 That's the, it's a wire service.

00:25:14.920 He was just here for a photo.

00:25:16.160 Like I say, there were other reporters in the court.

00:25:18.740 There was someone from PA, Press Association, which is their version of the Canadian press in Canada.

00:25:23.540 But I just can't get over that reporter from the Evening Standard who stood up like it was his court.

00:25:30.160 Like there was a, here's how it went.

00:25:33.220 Tommy was asked for his address.

00:25:35.040 The King's counsel stood up and said, Your Honor, 12 Osmond mornings for death threats for him, three for his wife.

00:25:40.700 It's an extreme circumstance.

00:25:42.140 You have his address.

00:25:43.480 We, we never say it.

00:25:44.940 That's why the judge looked to the audience and said, Does anyone have something to say?

00:25:49.620 And imagine being the journalist who hops up and say, Yeah, I do.

00:25:52.620 Hi.

00:25:53.540 Can I, can I have something to say?

00:25:55.080 It's not my hearing.

00:25:56.080 It's not my trial.

00:25:57.160 I'm, my liberty isn't in danger.

00:25:58.960 But I really got something to say because I hate that Tommy.

00:26:01.560 And I want to be able to tell his address to people even though there's no public interest.

00:26:05.660 And I swear to God, he talked for five minutes.

00:26:08.620 He, and, and the judge went back and forth.

00:26:10.860 And in the end, the judge ordered Tommy to give his address.

00:26:12.940 As he said, no fixed address, which was quick thinking.

00:26:15.800 But I just, could you possibly trust that journalist with anything he says about this court?

00:26:25.440 If he said it was raining out, if he said the sky was blue, I wouldn't trust him.

00:26:30.960 And that is the regime media.

00:26:32.940 And people say, Ezra, why are you flying in from Canada to cover Tommy Robinson?

00:26:38.120 It's because he is the pointy edge of the spear for freedom of speech battles in the United Kingdom.

00:26:44.860 I also like the guy who used to work for us, as you know.

00:26:47.340 But just astonishing.

00:26:48.780 This was supposed to be a fairly quick hearing today.

00:26:50.740 And I suppose it was.

00:26:51.760 We were in the room for just about an hour.

00:26:54.320 But as Tommy said in his scrum there, imagine being banned from London for essentially six months.

00:27:06.660 And for what?

00:27:07.920 Because someone at a march said, that guy makes me feel tense.

00:27:11.900 Even if that was true, that's not a reason.

00:27:14.520 I mean, I didn't know police took instructions like that.

00:27:17.440 But that march is over.

00:27:18.740 Why is Tommy banned from going into the city today?

00:27:23.720 Why is he banned from meeting with MPs?

00:27:25.980 Why does he have to disclose his meetings and appointments to the police and ask their permission?

00:27:32.680 I just find it astonishing.

00:27:34.860 You know, when I went to law school, we looked up to the United Kingdom.

00:27:38.020 We looked up to British law.

00:27:39.440 In fact, if you don't know, the United Kingdom used to be the court of final appeal for Canada.

00:27:45.120 I don't know if you know this, but it was only in the last century that Canada's Supreme Court became the final word on the law in Canada.

00:27:53.900 Appeals went to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council.

00:27:58.260 British law lords were the final say.

00:28:00.720 So when I was in law school, we looked up to the British.

00:28:03.320 We read the great British cases.

00:28:05.980 Canada inherited a lot of British law.

00:28:07.920 To this day, British legal cases are persuasive in Canada.

00:28:13.740 And so here I am, and I've been to the old Bailey and the Royal Courts of Justice, and I've been to courts in Luton and Peterborough, as they say, Peterborough.

00:28:22.320 And here I am in Westminster.

00:28:24.320 And I have to say, there are some brilliant judges in the Court of Appeal ruling that threw out Tommy's conviction a few years ago was a tour de force.

00:28:37.600 But what I saw in there today was deeply depressing.

00:28:43.040 The journalist, the prosecutor, the police, and the judge.

00:28:48.340 I'm worried.

00:28:51.860 There's a two-day hearing coming up in April 22 and 23.

00:28:55.080 I'm going to check my schedule.

00:28:56.260 I'm going to do my best to come out here.

00:28:58.180 Wouldn't that be astonishing?

00:29:00.220 If they convicted him of what?

00:29:02.940 Of being one person who doesn't disperse.

00:29:05.980 That's just, the word disperse does not, that's like one ball, disperse a ball.

00:29:12.100 It just disperses about a multiple of things.

00:29:15.780 Incredible.

00:29:17.220 Anyways, I thought I would come through London before going home.

00:29:20.020 I was in Switzerland covering the World Economic Forum.

00:29:23.380 And so it made sense to come here, and I'm going to go back to Toronto tonight.

00:29:28.560 I'll be in the studio in Toronto tomorrow.

00:29:32.060 It would be great to be home.

00:29:33.100 I've been away for so long.

00:29:35.020 Sometimes people say, Ezra, why are you traveling so much?

00:29:37.100 Well, maybe it's because I was locked up with Trudeau's vaccine no-fly list for two years,

00:29:43.420 and I had to scratch that itch, but that's not actually why.

00:29:47.220 I travel because I see in other countries the seeds of things that are growing in Canada as well.

00:29:53.760 I see in Davos, at the World Economic Forum, the globalists, the socialists, the authoritarians,

00:29:59.360 the censors, the oligarchs who want to rule us in Canada, where the ideas come from.

00:30:03.880 I see here in London the censorship culture take root,

00:30:09.540 and I think they're further down the road in the U.K. than we are in Canada.

00:30:13.560 I see that in Ireland.

00:30:14.780 I've never really visited Ireland before, but I'm deeply worried about censorship there.

00:30:19.400 I see the mass immigration.

00:30:21.420 We have 10,000 people marching in Canada, maybe 20,000.

00:30:25.460 They've got 100,000 in London, and I see our future.

00:30:28.300 I feel like going to London is a time machine.

00:30:34.380 When I go to London, it's like I'm traveling into the future five years if we don't fix our problems.

00:30:41.260 What happens if we don't stop mass immigration of illiberal people who don't believe in pluralism,

00:30:48.500 separation of mosque and state, peaceful solutions to problems, quality men and women? 0.83

00:30:52.520 What happens if we don't stop the censorship culture?

00:30:56.740 I will go back home to Canada tonight, and I will bring with me a warning of how police can simply arrest a man on the street

00:31:05.760 because his political opponent orders it, and then he must seek police permission for any meeting.

00:31:12.220 And I'll also tell the story about woke judges who work in concert with activist journalists

00:31:18.360 to smear anyone who stands up for freedom.

00:31:21.360 That's why I'm in London.

00:31:24.220 For all of us at Rebel News, whether it's in London, Davos, Toronto, or elsewhere,

00:31:28.460 to you at home, on behalf of us, to you, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - January 23, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Tommy Robinson supports Britain's Jews, and gets punished for it

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