Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau's tyrannical crackdown on the Freedom Convoy ruled 'unconstitutional'

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I'm back in Canada. Oh, it's good to be home. And wow, what a day I chose to

00:00:04.300 come back. The federal court of Canada has ruled that Justin Trudeau's invocation of the Emergencies

00:00:09.840 Act was illegal and unconstitutional. I'll take you through it. Wow, is all I have to say. Hey,

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00:00:48.820 Tonight, the federal court of Canada strikes down Trudeau's Emergencies Act as illegal and

00:00:55.280 unconstitutional. It's January 23rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:03.080 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:15.280 Just incredible. I wouldn't have expected it. I wouldn't have thunk it. But the federal court of

00:01:19.660 Canada issued a ruling today declaring that the Emergencies Act invoked by Trudeau, that form of

00:01:25.120 martial law was illegal, that Trudeau exceeded the powers granted to him by that law, that he did

00:01:31.100 not meet the tests in that law required for martial law. And second of all, even if he was wrong on that,

00:01:37.600 said the judge, that the law violated Canadians' Charter of Rights. There's no pandemic exception

00:01:45.300 to the charter. Earlier today, I had an emergency live stream for about an hour and a half on the

00:01:50.820 subject. I thought that for today's Ezra LeVant Show, we would excerpt chunks of that. It was

00:01:56.920 actually a really fun live stream. We talked to three of the smartest lawyers in the country.

00:02:00.880 Chad Williamson, who represented the truckers down in Coots, Alberta, was actually down there

00:02:05.440 in the saloon during the blockade. Keith Wilson, who was the lead lawyer for the trucker convoy in

00:02:11.280 Ottawa, and the daily interface between the truckers and the government, including the city and the

00:02:16.180 police in Ottawa. And finally, with Lawrence Greenspon, the lawyer representing Tamera Leach,

00:02:21.640 the warrior princess of the truckers. And I've got my own thoughts on things too, including,

00:02:27.220 I'll take you through the CBC's lying coverage of the subject, as well as that awful, awful woman, 1.00

00:02:33.680 Chrystia Freeland. I'll show you some of her comments today. So without further ado, let me show

00:02:38.040 you some of the highlights from the live stream today on this momentous court ruling, because I think

00:02:42.960 it's certainly the story of the day. An enormous legal and constitutional rebuke of Justin Trudeau,

00:02:54.300 Chrystia Freeland, and the entire thuggish liberal government in a blast of a ruling. The federal 0.99

00:03:02.780 court of Canada has said that the Liberal Party's invocation of the Emergencies Act some two years

00:03:10.680 ago was illegal, unreasonable, unjustifiable, and finally, unconstitutional. The federal court of

00:03:22.680 Canada has ruled that Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party broke the law and violated our civil rights

00:03:30.060 in an astonishing rebuke, speaking truth to power. I didn't know, I didn't think I would see it.

00:03:40.680 You might recall that about a year ago, slightly less than a year ago, Justin Trudeau handpicked a

00:03:50.640 reliable liberal judge named Paul Rolo, and handwrote a narrow mandate for that judge and set about a

00:03:58.960 whitewashing process that he controlled. And surprise, he exonerated himself. And the liberals dined out on

00:04:07.400 that for a few months, with every mainstream media journalist in the country clapping along like trained

00:04:12.940 seals. But today, it was an independent judge, not a handpicked judge by Trudeau, in a real court, not a

00:04:20.440 carefully scripted inquiry. A real judge, the Honorable Richard Mosley, let's put him on the screen, not one of

00:04:28.560 Trudeau's handpicked favorites. And he applied the rules of court, not the rules of Justin.

00:04:35.100 And he had a lengthy hearing. And he looked into the law, not just the politics. And he found what each

00:04:42.020 of us could have told you, whether or not we had a law degree. It was an improper suspension of civil

00:04:50.160 liberties. And let me say something very important that I want to say right at the top. And we're going

00:04:53.920 to go through this together. We're going to spend about an hour on this. And in about half an hour,

00:04:58.540 we're going to be joined by two senior lawyers, including Keith Wilson, the lawyer for the Freedom

00:05:03.280 Convoy truckers in Ottawa, and a Fred Chad Williamson, the lawyer for the truckers at the

00:05:08.280 Cooch blockade. We will have some serious legal firepower on this show in about half an hour. 1.00

00:05:14.960 But I want to point out a very important thing about the lawsuit. We're going to go through it.

00:05:18.440 It wasn't just Canadians who were suing. The government of Alberta, and I'll confirm this,

00:05:26.320 we'll go through the law to get with the ruling together. The government of Alberta intervened,

00:05:32.100 saying, we didn't need the Emergencies Act. We were able to solve any policing problems without

00:05:40.080 putting the country under martial law. This is an astounding ruling. And the timing of it is

00:05:48.020 absolutely perfect. Coming right in the middle of a Liberal Party retreat. They're having a lot of

00:05:54.900 these retreats and summits and luxury getaways where they try and script some language to bring

00:06:01.760 them back from the brink of oblivion in the polls. And what a delight to see them scupper all their plans

00:06:08.620 and put out twitchy Freeland. That's what I call Christia Freeland. She's got that irritating twitch. 1.00

00:06:16.500 I don't know if it's a medical condition or if she's just someone who has is a walking poker tell of 0.99

00:06:22.160 lies. You know what a poker tell is. It's when someone lies and they can't control something. They

00:06:26.820 have a wink or something or they make a face or their eyes look in a certain way. I think that's what

00:06:31.780 it is with Christia Freeland. She may have a form of Tourette's and if so, you know, it's a medical

00:06:36.700 condition beyond her reach. But I think it's a poker tell. The woman is a non-stop liar and I think 1.00

00:06:42.400 her body can't control being such a liar. Take a listen to Christia Freeland explaining that no,

00:06:48.480 no, no, no. Just because a judge heard the case and government lawyers were there but the judge

00:06:54.200 didn't agree with them. Just because, you know, what, 150 or so page ruling, page after page,

00:07:00.100 her law breaking was exposed. No, no, no. You see, with all due respect, she disagrees and so she's

00:07:07.400 going to appeal it because of course she is. Because if this law, if this ruling is upheld,

00:07:15.720 who's the biggest loser? Well, Justin Trudeau, but I don't know how much long Justin Trudeau is

00:07:20.900 going to be with us given the polling. But Christia Freeland actually thought, and maybe she still

00:07:26.100 thinks she can be prime minister, she was the one who seized the bank accounts. And if her legal 1.00

00:07:32.620 rationale for seizing the bank accounts is gone, then she's the one who will be sued by everyone 0.96

00:07:37.240 who had their bank accounts seized. Now, I don't think she'll be held personally responsible. The

00:07:41.920 government will bail out Christia Freeland for her illegal acts. But if I was Christia Freeland, 0.98

00:07:47.360 I would be saying, no, no, no, no, no. I'm innocent. No, no, no, no, no. Also, because what she did

00:07:52.520 was atrocious here, listen to this wicked twitcher, the twitchy witch, explaining, no, no, no, this judge, 1.00

00:07:59.240 don't listen to the judge. What we did was completely legal. Take a look at this.

00:08:03.000 So, we are aware of the court decision. We have discussed it with the prime minister,

00:08:12.100 with cabinet colleagues, with senior federal government officials and experts.

00:08:18.520 We respect very much Canada's independent judiciary. However, we do not agree with this decision.

00:08:34.080 And respectfully, we will be appealing it. I would just like to take a moment to remind Canadians

00:08:44.740 of how serious the situation was in our country when we took that decision. The public safety of Canadians

00:08:56.380 was under threat. Our national security, which includes our national economic security, was under threat.

00:09:07.840 It was a hard decision to take. We took it very seriously after a lot of hard work, after a lot of careful

00:09:19.560 deliberation. We were convinced at the time, I was convinced at the time, it was the right thing to do.

00:09:28.560 It was the necessary thing to do. I remain and we remain convinced of that. And I'll now turn it over

00:09:40.880 to my colleague, the Minister of Justice, and then we'll hear from my colleague, the Minister of Public Safety.

00:09:46.280 Hey, I got a question for you. Sorry to interrupt. Where's the coward Justin Trudeau?

00:09:51.320 I mean, I know he doesn't want to wear this. He sent out Twitchy to say how thoughtful she was,

00:09:58.400 and please don't arrest me because I seized bank accounts, and please don't destroy my future political career

00:10:03.760 just because I was the one who seized hundreds of bank accounts illegally.

00:10:08.620 Where's the coward? Like, at the end of the day, it was the Prime Minister who made the decision.

00:10:13.700 And he sends out Chrystia Freeland and some other no-name cabinet ministers. Seriously, can you name,

00:10:21.200 can you name, without looking it up, can you name the Justice Minister?

00:10:27.380 Can you name the Public Safety Minister? No Googling. It's, it really is Justin Trudeau and the Seven Dwarves.

00:10:37.700 I mean, I think people do know Chrystia Freeland. Can you name any other cabinet ministers?

00:10:43.700 Why did Trudeau send her out? Why didn't he go out and say this in his best drama teacher voice?

00:10:51.260 He wants her to wear it. I think they're going to try and blame a couple of cabinet ministers in the day, 0.90

00:10:57.260 like Marco Mendicino, who was the Public Safety Minister who was later sacked by Trudeau.

00:11:02.380 They're going to probably try and put some blame on him, but it won't work.

00:11:05.380 It was Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland in the end who made the call.

00:11:08.420 It was Freeland who seized the bank accounts. It was Trudeau who deployed the riot horses.

00:11:12.500 It was Trudeau who demanded that police arrest the peaceful protesters like Tamara Leach. 0.80

00:11:18.840 Isn't she looking good these days? 0.99

00:11:22.040 The Emergencies Act was illegally invoked.

00:11:26.600 For two years, Justin Trudeau and his repeaters in the regime media

00:11:31.480 have said that the convoy was illegal.

00:11:35.100 In fact, the convoy was legal.

00:11:38.400 It was the crackdown that was illegal.

00:11:42.960 Tamara Leach has never been convicted of anything.

00:11:45.020 Justin Trudeau once again has been found to be a lawbreaker.

00:11:49.540 All right, without further ado, let's go through the ruling right now.

00:11:52.900 I want to take you through the ruling.

00:11:55.060 Now, it's a long ruling. Let's show the cover of it right here.

00:11:57.400 The Honorable Mr. Justice Mosley, I already showed that to you.

00:12:05.220 Now, I'm going to spend some time on the front page

00:12:07.400 just so we can understand what exactly was going on.

00:12:12.600 Let's go down a little bit.

00:12:13.600 It's between Canadian frontline nurses and Kristen Nagel

00:12:17.760 and the Attorney General of Canada.

00:12:21.160 So nurses who were against the Emergencies Act took the step

00:12:25.060 and the Canadian Civil Liberties Association

00:12:29.440 that finally woke up after three years of hitting the snooze button

00:12:32.340 and the Canadian Constitution Foundation.

00:12:37.320 Those are good guys.

00:12:39.800 And the Attorney General of Canada was there

00:12:41.980 and the Attorney General of Alberta,

00:12:43.580 that is the Justice Department of Alberta,

00:12:45.540 intervened on behalf of the protesters,

00:12:49.040 on behalf of the people.

00:12:51.160 But there's more names yet.

00:12:53.380 Jeremiah Jost, Edward Cornell, Vincent Gerses,

00:12:57.060 and Harold Aristow.

00:13:00.720 Canadian citizens who were willing to put their names forward

00:13:03.320 as the official applicants.

00:13:04.840 Thank you to them.

00:13:06.960 And you can see the list of respondents or defendants

00:13:09.420 as they're sometimes called governor and council.

00:13:11.560 That means cabinet.

00:13:13.240 His Majesty and Right of Canada, the Attorney General,

00:13:16.120 the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness.

00:13:18.060 So they're just naming the members of cabinet who made the decisions.

00:13:24.060 Now, if you look at this judgment, it's over 100 pages long,

00:13:28.840 and so there's a table of contents.

00:13:30.580 I have not read this whole thing through.

00:13:32.680 It's only been out for about an hour or two.

00:13:35.520 Obviously, I haven't read it.

00:13:36.780 But let's look at that table of contents, introduction, overview.

00:13:39.840 They talk about the parties, that is, who was suing.

00:13:43.280 And then they go through, and you can see they describe,

00:13:45.480 who's Kristen Nagel, what's Canadian Frontline Nurses, 0.84

00:13:48.580 who are the different groups.

00:13:50.440 So this is like a mini book, isn't it?

00:13:53.680 I'm going to skip to the end of the movie.

00:13:54.940 At the outset of these proceedings,

00:13:58.380 while I had not reached a decision on any of the four applications,

00:14:01.380 I was leaning to the view that the decision to invoke the Emergencies Act

00:14:05.400 was reasonable.

00:14:07.280 I considered the events that occurred in Ottawa and other locations

00:14:10.100 in January and February 2022,

00:14:12.380 went beyond legitimate protest,

00:14:14.340 and reflected an unacceptable breakdown of public order.

00:14:17.700 I had and continued to have considerable sympathy

00:14:20.880 for those in government who were confronted with this situation.

00:14:23.520 Had I been at their tables at that time,

00:14:25.620 I may have agreed that it was necessary to invoke the Act.

00:14:29.180 And I acknowledge that in conducting judicial review of that decision,

00:14:32.020 I'm revisioning that time with the benefit of hindsight

00:14:34.200 and a more extensive record of the facts and law

00:14:36.320 than that which was before the governor in council.

00:14:40.800 So he's starting off by saying,

00:14:42.700 I didn't much like the trucker convoy.

00:14:45.020 Let's read a little bit more.

00:14:47.360 My preliminary view of the reasonableness of the decision

00:14:50.620 to invoke martial law

00:14:51.960 may have prevailed following the hearing

00:14:54.640 due to excellent advocacy on the part of counsel

00:14:56.980 for the Attorney General of Canada.

00:14:59.080 Had I not taken the time to carefully deliberate

00:15:02.200 about the evidence and submissions,

00:15:04.460 particularly those of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association

00:15:08.100 and the Canadian Constitutional Foundation,

00:15:10.020 their participation in these proceedings

00:15:11.600 has demonstrated again,

00:15:13.100 the value of public interest litigants,

00:15:15.080 especially in presenting informed legal argument.

00:15:17.340 This case may not have turned out the way it has

00:15:19.880 without their involvement

00:15:21.200 as the private interest litigants

00:15:22.660 were not as capable of marshalling the evidence

00:15:25.240 and argument in support of their applications.

00:15:27.040 Isn't that an interesting thing to say?

00:15:28.580 If I was with those two civil liberties groups,

00:15:30.580 I'd be feeling pretty good right now.

00:15:32.880 Let's keep reading.

00:15:33.740 We're almost done.

00:15:34.260 I have concluded the decision to issue the proclamation

00:15:38.500 does not bear the hallmarks of reasonableness,

00:15:42.460 justification, transparency, and intelligibility,

00:15:45.260 and was not justified in relation

00:15:48.040 to the relevant factual and legal constraints

00:15:50.000 that were required to be taken into consideration.

00:15:52.500 In my view, there can be only one reasonable interpretation

00:15:57.640 of Emergencies Act, Sections 3 and 17,

00:16:01.100 and the CESIS Act,

00:16:02.400 and the applicants have established

00:16:03.780 that the legal constraints

00:16:04.900 on the discretion of the government and counsel

00:16:06.280 to declare a public order emergency

00:16:07.640 were not satisfied.

00:16:09.440 And for those who remember,

00:16:12.560 there has to be a very serious threat to the country,

00:16:16.600 like a revolution or an invasion

00:16:19.140 or a serious insurrection,

00:16:21.320 that's part one and part two,

00:16:24.820 that cannot be fixed with regular law and order.

00:16:29.180 There's a two-part test

00:16:30.400 to putting the country under martial law.

00:16:32.340 Part one, is there a revolution?

00:16:36.060 Is there a war?

00:16:37.720 Is there a general, a serious insurrection?

00:16:40.060 Is there serious violence?

00:16:41.400 Can't just be a bank robbery.

00:16:42.820 Can't just be a blockade.

00:16:44.380 It has to be a grave existential threat to the country.

00:16:49.060 But that in itself is not enough.

00:16:52.600 Part two is, okay, so you've got an insurrection.

00:16:55.440 Okay, so you've got a war.

00:16:56.480 Okay, so you've got a terrible thing happening.

00:16:58.860 Is there any other lesser means to fix the problem?

00:17:02.360 Obviously, that test was not met.

00:17:08.380 And that's the value of Alberta's intervention.

00:17:10.820 We'll get there.

00:17:11.640 Because Alberta had a blockade, you might recall,

00:17:14.320 at the Coutts border crossing between Alberta and Montana.

00:17:17.660 And that blockade was resolved,

00:17:21.500 actually, if I recall, the day before martial law was applied.

00:17:25.520 And so my point is, this judge didn't like the convoy.

00:17:31.440 This judge sympathized with the government.

00:17:35.420 But this judge read the law.

00:17:38.260 And this judge said, and I haven't read the whole thing,

00:17:41.880 but I just hopped to the end here.

00:17:44.040 The government did not pass that two-fold test.

00:17:46.620 Here, let's keep reading.

00:17:47.220 Okay, I'm going to go to...

00:17:58.220 Well, I think I read the key part.

00:18:05.720 The applicants have established that the legal constraints

00:18:07.920 on the discretion of the governing in council

00:18:09.720 to declare public order of emergency were not satisfied.

00:18:12.080 That's sort of it right there.

00:18:14.080 Now, I was skimming the ruling before we went on the live stream.

00:18:16.980 I was skimming it.

00:18:17.940 And I want to go to paragraph 253.

00:18:20.960 Olivia, can you go to paragraph 253?

00:18:24.280 Because there was some interesting stuff there

00:18:26.780 that I just want to read out.

00:18:28.980 This is a...

00:18:29.520 You know what?

00:18:29.860 We're going to chew this over.

00:18:31.520 And in about 10 minutes,

00:18:33.140 we're going to call in a couple of legal experts to help us.

00:18:36.160 But I want to skim.

00:18:38.800 I want to go up to 253.

00:18:41.900 All right.

00:18:43.340 Let me know when you're there.

00:18:44.740 Yeah.

00:18:44.940 Due to its nature

00:18:47.780 and to the broad powers it grants to the federal executive,

00:18:51.180 the Emergencies Act is a tool of last resort.

00:18:56.040 The government and council

00:18:57.340 cannot invoke the Emergencies Act

00:19:00.040 because it is convenient

00:19:01.240 or because it may work better

00:19:04.520 than other tools at their disposal

00:19:05.960 or available to the provinces.

00:19:07.220 This does not mean that every tool has to be used

00:19:10.860 and tried to determine that the situation exceeded

00:19:12.980 the capacity or authority of the provinces.

00:19:15.400 And in this case, the evidence is clear

00:19:17.220 that the majority of the provinces

00:19:19.020 were able to deal with the situation

00:19:20.580 using other federal laws,

00:19:22.660 such as the criminal code

00:19:23.680 and their own legislation.

00:19:25.380 The Section 58 explanation concludes

00:19:31.220 that the ongoing protests had, quote,

00:19:34.360 created a critical, urgent, temporary situation

00:19:37.000 that is national in scope

00:19:38.140 and cannot effectively be dealt with

00:19:39.980 under any other law of Canada.

00:19:41.360 That was the excuse the liberals said.

00:19:44.540 And here's what the judge says in response.

00:19:46.820 While I agree that the evidence supports

00:19:48.300 the conclusion that the situation was critical

00:19:50.920 and required an urgent resolution by governments,

00:19:54.420 the evidence, in my view,

00:19:55.700 does not support the conclusion

00:19:57.460 that it could not have been effectively dealt with

00:19:59.820 under other laws of Canada

00:20:01.740 as it was in Alberta

00:20:02.940 or that it exceeded the capacity

00:20:05.400 or authority of a province to deal with it.

00:20:06.980 That was demonstrated not to be the case in Quebec

00:20:09.660 and other provinces and territories,

00:20:12.380 including Ontario, except in Ottawa.

00:20:16.340 For those, for these reasons,

00:20:18.360 I conclude that there was no national emergency

00:20:23.840 justifying the invocation of the Emergencies Act

00:20:27.320 and the decision to do so was therefore unreasonable

00:20:30.020 and ultra vides.

00:20:32.540 That's Latin for outside the power of the government.

00:20:35.080 The government can do certain things,

00:20:37.480 but it can't do everything.

00:20:38.540 It can only do those things passed in law

00:20:41.280 subject to the limits of the Constitution.

00:20:43.140 So this was the government acting outside of its power,

00:20:46.900 acting illegally.

00:20:50.120 Let me keep going.

00:20:51.180 The judge says,

00:20:52.980 should I be found to have erred in that conclusion,

00:20:55.860 I will proceed to discuss the threshold requirement

00:20:58.940 that for a public order emergency to be declared,

00:21:01.920 it must meet the definition set out in Section 16 of the Act,

00:21:06.820 was the threats to the security of Canada threshold met.

00:21:11.900 I'm going to read a little bit more.

00:21:14.600 But let me pause for a second

00:21:16.920 and tell you the importance of the paragraphs I just read.

00:21:20.700 Was there a problem in Canada

00:21:22.540 from the government's point of view?

00:21:24.160 Yeah.

00:21:24.420 They didn't like all that horn honking.

00:21:27.240 They didn't like parking on the side of the road.

00:21:30.740 They didn't like people laughing when they got tickets.

00:21:33.360 They didn't like the general middle finger

00:21:36.680 flipping the bird to Trudeau.

00:21:39.360 And there may have even been some laws broken.

00:21:44.320 I think it really was a bunch of traffic offenses.

00:21:47.100 But what this judge is saying

00:21:51.840 is that there was no need

00:21:55.360 to put the country under martial law

00:21:57.040 and that is a requirement

00:21:58.660 to put the country under martial law.

00:22:00.040 You can't simply do it because you want to

00:22:01.900 or because you hate the other guy.

00:22:03.640 You have to put the country under martial law

00:22:06.720 if there is no other way of dealing with the problem.

00:22:09.500 And the importance of that paragraph

00:22:11.280 is that the province of Alberta,

00:22:12.920 the province of Quebec,

00:22:13.780 the province of Ontario

00:22:14.800 all dealt with the same crisis

00:22:17.440 without the martial law.

00:22:21.240 Trudeau invoked martial law

00:22:22.640 because he wanted to

00:22:24.300 for political reasons

00:22:25.460 because he was embarrassed

00:22:26.700 by the fact that the truckers were defying him.

00:22:29.560 How dare they?

00:22:31.580 And that ain't enough, boss.

00:22:34.960 Here, I'm going to read a little bit more

00:22:36.120 in section 256.

00:22:37.180 But do you see what the judge just did?

00:22:38.320 The judge said,

00:22:38.960 if I'm wrong there,

00:22:40.860 I got some more arguments too

00:22:42.240 because this judge knew

00:22:43.860 that he was going to have his ruling appealed.

00:22:47.440 So he said,

00:22:48.680 you didn't meet the test.

00:22:53.820 This was not a law of last resort.

00:22:57.140 You went to this way too early.

00:22:58.740 You didn't need to go to this at all.

00:23:00.280 Alberta cleared the blockade of coups

00:23:01.620 before martial law was brought in.

00:23:03.340 I remember the public order inquiry commission,

00:23:06.720 the hand-scripted judicial inquiry

00:23:09.320 that Justin Trudeau chose the judge of.

00:23:11.140 Remember that?

00:23:11.600 We called it the trucker commission.

00:23:14.920 Police force after police force said

00:23:16.600 they didn't need martial law.

00:23:17.700 They were fine with it.

00:23:19.240 I remember the OPP,

00:23:20.340 the Ontario Provincial Police,

00:23:21.580 said, yeah, we didn't ask for this.

00:23:22.620 We were fine without it.

00:23:24.220 Let me keep reading section 256,

00:23:25.960 paragraph 256, okay?

00:23:27.360 In a general sense,

00:23:30.800 it was reasonable for the government

00:23:32.100 to be alarmed at the impact of the blockades

00:23:34.720 and the effects they were having

00:23:36.000 on cross-border trade.

00:23:37.200 Those effects could be said

00:23:38.380 to fall within a broader sense

00:23:39.600 of threats to the security of Canada

00:23:41.660 or more generally,

00:23:42.660 the concept of national security.

00:23:48.600 I'm going to skip ahead to 258.

00:23:51.180 In this court,

00:23:52.160 after an extensive review

00:23:53.220 of the authorities,

00:23:54.060 Justice Simon Noel concluded

00:23:55.440 that national security means at minimum

00:23:57.660 the preservation of the Canadian way of life,

00:24:00.220 including safeguarding

00:24:01.100 of the security of persons,

00:24:02.120 institutions, and freedoms in Canada.

00:24:05.700 259.

00:24:06.400 A broad and flexible interpretation

00:24:07.940 of the words

00:24:08.300 threats to the security of Canada

00:24:09.600 could encompass the concerns

00:24:11.280 which led the government

00:24:12.020 to issue the public order

00:24:13.100 emergency declaration.

00:24:14.940 Had the meaning of those words

00:24:16.080 not been limited

00:24:16.840 by reference to another statute

00:24:18.400 and applying a deferential standard review,

00:24:21.860 I would have found that

00:24:22.660 the threshold was satisfied.

00:24:24.120 And this is the point

00:24:24.820 I mentioned before.

00:24:25.940 However, the words

00:24:26.820 threats to the security of Canada

00:24:28.960 do not stand alone in the act

00:24:30.300 and must be interpreted

00:24:31.520 with reference to the meaning

00:24:32.520 of the terms

00:24:32.960 as it is defined

00:24:34.060 in Section 2 of the CECES Act.

00:24:35.860 And this is what I mentioned before.

00:24:39.380 Section 260.

00:24:41.340 Threats to the security of Canada

00:24:42.800 in Section 2 of the CECES Act

00:24:44.240 refers to four types of activities.

00:24:46.580 Only one of the four

00:24:47.400 is relevant to these proceedings.

00:24:48.960 Under paragraph 2c,

00:24:50.160 threats to the security of Canada

00:24:51.520 means this.

00:24:52.600 All right, are you ready?

00:24:53.380 We're just going to read this slowly here

00:24:56.360 because you have to understand

00:24:58.540 you can't push that martial law button.

00:25:01.520 You can't pull the fire alarm

00:25:03.160 for the whole country

00:25:04.100 and torch the chart of rights and freedoms

00:25:06.700 and seize bank accounts

00:25:08.420 and jail your political opponents.

00:25:10.020 You can't hit that panic button

00:25:12.360 unless it's a real panic.

00:25:14.000 You can't fake it.

00:25:15.300 You can't be the boy who cries wolf.

00:25:17.420 You can't be Justin Trudeau

00:25:19.100 looking for a dramatic,

00:25:20.700 you know, part-time drama teacher drama move.

00:25:24.660 You need to do what the CECES Act requires.

00:25:27.240 I'm going to read it now.

00:25:29.820 Under paragraph 2c,

00:25:31.220 threats to the security of Canada

00:25:32.520 means activities within

00:25:35.840 or relating to Canada

00:25:37.000 directed toward or in support of

00:25:39.300 the threat or use

00:25:42.520 of acts of serious violence

00:25:45.200 against persons or property

00:25:47.220 for the purpose of achieving

00:25:48.540 a political, religious,

00:25:50.380 or ideological objective

00:25:51.980 within Canada

00:25:52.860 or a foreign state.

00:25:56.620 And then the judge continues,

00:25:58.300 this definition excludes

00:26:00.000 lawful advocacy,

00:26:02.000 protest, or dissent

00:26:03.240 unless carried on in conjunction

00:26:05.140 with any of the activities

00:26:06.100 referred to in the four paragraphs,

00:26:08.600 including C.

00:26:09.360 Paragraph 262,

00:26:13.600 the proclamation

00:26:14.300 that was their calling

00:26:15.360 for martial law

00:26:16.140 specified five reasons

00:26:17.780 to justify the declaration

00:26:19.080 of a public order emergency.

00:26:20.800 The first draws directly

00:26:21.760 from the language

00:26:22.380 of the CECES Act.

00:26:23.580 The second, third, and fourth reasons

00:26:24.740 pertain to adverse effects

00:26:26.000 on the economy.

00:26:27.560 The fifth reason cites

00:26:28.700 the potential

00:26:29.460 for an increase

00:26:30.520 in the level of unrest

00:26:31.480 and violence

00:26:32.080 that would further threaten

00:26:33.280 the safety and security

00:26:34.140 of Canadians.

00:26:34.660 That's a giveaway right there,

00:26:35.740 isn't it?

00:26:37.140 It hadn't happened yet

00:26:38.420 and they were saying,

00:26:38.820 well, this could get worse, boss.

00:26:41.900 I'm just going to read one more

00:26:43.480 and then we're going to call

00:26:44.280 in our legal experts.

00:26:46.760 Here's one more paragraph

00:26:47.900 by this judge.

00:26:49.980 The first reason specified

00:26:51.400 in the proclamation

00:26:52.140 cites the threat

00:26:53.080 or use of serious violence

00:26:54.300 against persons or property.

00:26:56.800 And here's how they,

00:26:57.900 this is how the government

00:26:58.840 describes it.

00:26:59.900 The continuing blockades

00:27:01.180 by both persons

00:27:01.940 and motor vehicles

00:27:02.740 that is occurring

00:27:03.740 at various locations

00:27:04.600 throughout Canada

00:27:05.260 and the continuing threats

00:27:06.600 to oppose measures

00:27:07.780 to remove the blockades

00:27:08.900 including by force

00:27:10.200 which blockades

00:27:11.440 are being carried on

00:27:12.200 in conjunction

00:27:12.740 with activities

00:27:13.360 that are directed toward

00:27:14.260 or in support

00:27:15.160 of the threat

00:27:15.780 or use of acts

00:27:16.920 of serious violence

00:27:18.300 against persons

00:27:20.020 or property

00:27:20.560 including critical infrastructure

00:27:21.800 for the purpose

00:27:22.740 of achieving a political

00:27:23.740 or ideological objective

00:27:24.900 within Canada.

00:27:25.560 did that happen?

00:27:28.380 It's like they're talking

00:27:29.880 about some terrorist attack

00:27:31.660 or something

00:27:32.240 but we all knew

00:27:33.640 it was hot tubs

00:27:35.620 and bouncy castles.

00:27:37.680 All right, listen,

00:27:38.540 we could spend hours

00:27:40.080 going through this case

00:27:41.480 just reading it

00:27:43.800 but I haven't practiced law

00:27:46.720 in 20 years.

00:27:47.560 I want to go to two guys

00:27:50.380 who are up to their eyeballs

00:27:51.940 in this law

00:27:52.840 who have been fighting

00:27:54.760 for freedom

00:27:55.660 who have been with the truckers

00:27:57.200 since the convoy began.

00:27:59.460 I'm talking about

00:28:00.180 Keith Wilson

00:28:00.880 lawyer for the truckers

00:28:02.640 in Ottawa

00:28:03.040 and our friend

00:28:03.540 Chad Williamson

00:28:04.380 lawyer for the truckers

00:28:05.960 down in Cootes, Alberta

00:28:06.840 both of which are referenced

00:28:08.120 in this ruling.

00:28:09.400 May I introduce you

00:28:10.300 the legal dream team.

00:28:12.680 Chad Williamson

00:28:13.620 and Keith Wilson

00:28:14.720 great to see you fellas.

00:28:15.760 Thank you so much

00:28:16.520 for joining this

00:28:17.380 emergency live stream.

00:28:18.860 Boy, we got a lot

00:28:19.780 of brain power

00:28:20.320 on the show now.

00:28:21.400 Thank God you guys

00:28:22.580 have come to help out.

00:28:23.900 How are you guys doing?

00:28:24.640 Chad, how are you doing

00:28:25.240 down there in Calgary?

00:28:27.080 Doing awesome, Ezra.

00:28:29.160 Cam, I mean

00:28:29.840 I've been

00:28:30.720 I'm so busy

00:28:31.460 with other matters.

00:28:32.940 I had Marty

00:28:34.160 as you folks might know

00:28:35.920 as one of the guys

00:28:36.840 that's worked with me

00:28:37.480 on some of the crazier files

00:28:38.680 that we've done

00:28:39.220 like storm into my office

00:28:41.460 at 11 o'clock

00:28:42.320 this morning saying

00:28:43.140 hey, did you see

00:28:43.840 the new federal court decision?

00:28:45.160 So I've just been trying

00:28:47.060 to digest everything

00:28:48.660 as I imagine

00:28:49.440 Keith has already

00:28:50.420 had the opportunity

00:28:51.320 to do being a couple hours

00:28:53.560 ahead of us

00:28:54.380 out in Ottawa

00:28:55.600 but doing great.

00:28:57.560 What outstanding news

00:28:59.240 and just another dagger

00:29:00.580 into the heart

00:29:01.400 of the beast.

00:29:03.100 Yeah, well that's incredible.

00:29:04.020 Well thank you

00:29:04.520 and you were down there

00:29:05.540 at that border saloon

00:29:07.200 in Coots, Alberta

00:29:08.340 observing the blockade

00:29:09.920 firsthand

00:29:10.380 a peaceful blockade

00:29:12.240 not one of serious violence

00:29:14.060 to use the wording

00:29:14.980 of the law.

00:29:15.960 Keith Wilson

00:29:16.400 I'm not sure

00:29:16.960 if you're in Edmonton today

00:29:17.940 or in Ottawa

00:29:18.620 you've been between

00:29:19.760 those two cities

00:29:20.580 quite a lot

00:29:21.160 over the last two years.

00:29:22.720 You are a lawyer

00:29:23.700 not just for Tamara Leach

00:29:25.080 but you were

00:29:25.760 the interlocutor

00:29:27.020 you were the negotiator

00:29:28.440 out in Ottawa.

00:29:30.920 Tell me first

00:29:31.880 your reaction

00:29:32.580 to this ruling.

00:29:33.620 I'm pleasantly surprised

00:29:35.460 I didn't think

00:29:36.000 they had a hope.

00:29:37.220 I mean so many

00:29:37.840 court rulings

00:29:38.400 have gone against freedom

00:29:39.600 over the last two years.

00:29:41.160 I'm frankly stunned

00:29:42.540 by this

00:29:42.980 and I think the liberals

00:29:43.640 were too.

00:29:44.360 Let me ask you that first

00:29:45.480 did you expect this

00:29:46.660 or was this just

00:29:47.560 a hope too far

00:29:48.720 to hope?

00:29:50.140 I actually was

00:29:51.200 holding out hope.

00:29:52.500 I'm here in my office

00:29:53.720 in Edmonton

00:29:54.420 and

00:29:55.100 I have said

00:29:58.400 many times

00:29:59.380 when people

00:30:00.840 were expressing

00:30:01.620 dismay

00:30:02.200 about the Rouleau ruling

00:30:03.680 from the public inquiry

00:30:06.300 and the commission inquiry

00:30:07.860 that Justice Rouleau led

00:30:09.200 that I was like

00:30:10.440 you know

00:30:10.820 I thought

00:30:13.140 it was political theater

00:30:14.880 it became pretty clear

00:30:15.700 that's what it was

00:30:16.360 near the end

00:30:16.980 and I was holding out hope

00:30:19.820 that the court

00:30:20.900 would apply the facts

00:30:22.460 to the law

00:30:23.160 and conclude the obvious

00:30:25.100 which is

00:30:26.060 the legal test

00:30:27.860 for the invocation

00:30:28.960 wasn't met

00:30:29.760 the Coutts border

00:30:31.480 was opened

00:30:32.060 on the weekend

00:30:32.960 in that February

00:30:35.320 of 2022

00:30:36.240 the Windsor

00:30:37.320 and all the other blockades

00:30:38.360 were cleared

00:30:38.960 on the Saturday

00:30:40.420 and Sunday

00:30:41.060 the trucker leadership

00:30:42.160 in Ottawa

00:30:42.620 had negotiated

00:30:43.420 a deal

00:30:43.800 with the mayor

00:30:44.280 of Ottawa

00:30:44.700 to relocate

00:30:45.680 the trucks

00:30:46.220 out of the residential areas

00:30:47.600 and consolidate them

00:30:48.780 up onto Wellington

00:30:50.100 in front of the prime minister's office

00:30:51.780 and the parliament buildings

00:30:53.080 to give the protest

00:30:55.340 longer staying power

00:30:57.140 and so

00:30:58.840 there was no justification

00:31:00.580 there was no crisis

00:31:01.820 there was no insurrection

00:31:02.720 there was no interference

00:31:03.540 with international trade

00:31:04.500 none of the legal tests

00:31:05.300 were met

00:31:05.720 and the court

00:31:06.680 has confirmed

00:31:07.300 that that is in fact

00:31:08.180 the case

00:31:08.680 the legal test

00:31:09.640 wasn't met

00:31:10.180 but it went a step further

00:31:11.860 and this is great cause

00:31:13.180 for hope

00:31:13.680 is they also

00:31:15.140 the federal court

00:31:16.200 has said

00:31:16.800 that charter rights

00:31:19.460 were violated

00:31:20.040 so even if they met

00:31:21.300 the test

00:31:21.960 to invoke

00:31:23.660 which they didn't

00:31:24.180 the charter rights

00:31:26.140 for violence

00:31:26.520 section 8

00:31:27.060 in particular

00:31:27.700 you're right

00:31:28.100 against unlawful search

00:31:29.340 and seizure

00:31:29.700 relating specifically

00:31:31.200 to the outrageous

00:31:32.540 tyrannical act

00:31:33.660 of freezing

00:31:34.620 hundreds of Canadians

00:31:36.400 bank accounts

00:31:37.160 and cancelling

00:31:37.800 their credit cards

00:31:38.540 you know

00:31:39.220 Chrystia Freeland

00:31:40.080 was twitching

00:31:40.800 more than she normally does

00:31:42.180 when she was in front

00:31:43.120 of the mic today

00:31:43.860 and because she

00:31:45.260 as much as anyone

00:31:46.680 was the public face

00:31:47.760 of the martial law

00:31:49.620 yeah Marco Mendocino

00:31:50.680 but we learned

00:31:51.520 from the public order

00:31:52.280 inquiry commission

00:31:53.000 that he was just

00:31:54.120 a useful idiot

00:31:55.360 he wasn't even fully

00:31:56.540 briefed by his own staff

00:31:57.620 it was Chrystia Freeland

00:31:58.500 that was contacting

00:31:59.540 the banks

00:31:59.980 and saying

00:32:00.280 seize that account

00:32:01.760 seize this account

00:32:03.000 I want to ask you

00:32:04.720 one more thing

00:32:05.320 before we go back

00:32:05.980 to Chad for a second

00:32:07.180 Keith I know

00:32:08.420 you were negotiating

00:32:09.360 literally day by day

00:32:10.580 even hour by hour

00:32:11.920 out there in Ottawa

00:32:13.280 with the Ottawa police

00:32:14.800 and I want you to say

00:32:15.760 again what you've

00:32:16.520 told me before

00:32:17.580 which is that

00:32:18.620 you were in full

00:32:20.560 communication

00:32:21.680 open communication

00:32:22.920 with the city

00:32:24.160 and with the Ottawa police

00:32:25.720 managing

00:32:26.780 the convoy

00:32:28.780 keeping lanes open

00:32:30.120 moving away

00:32:31.000 from residential areas

00:32:32.320 moving these trucks

00:32:33.480 over there

00:32:34.040 and these trucks

00:32:34.600 over there

00:32:34.980 it was cooperative

00:32:36.040 there was some tension

00:32:37.020 for sure

00:32:37.620 but it was a relationship

00:32:39.460 building on trust

00:32:40.820 and it

00:32:41.800 and you were

00:32:42.640 sort of the official

00:32:43.980 negotiator

00:32:44.880 now I want you to

00:32:46.000 say it in your own words

00:32:46.780 because I don't want

00:32:47.320 to get a word wrong

00:32:48.160 but I believe

00:32:49.580 you've told me

00:32:50.360 that there was a deal

00:32:51.640 there was a deal

00:32:53.480 between the truckers

00:32:54.460 and the city of Ottawa

00:32:55.620 and instead of ratifying

00:32:57.860 that deal

00:32:58.480 Justin Trudeau

00:32:59.240 pulled the trigger

00:33:00.020 on martial law

00:33:00.940 because he didn't want

00:33:02.100 there to be a deal

00:33:02.840 because he wanted that

00:33:04.060 drama teacher

00:33:05.220 drama move

00:33:06.440 you and the truckers

00:33:08.540 in Ottawa

00:33:08.940 actually were in full

00:33:10.080 compliance with everything

00:33:10.980 the police wanted

00:33:11.840 but Trudeau was worried

00:33:13.600 he was going to lose

00:33:14.180 his moment

00:33:14.620 so he invoked

00:33:15.520 martial law

00:33:16.220 right when you guys

00:33:17.340 had a deal

00:33:17.700 can you tell me

00:33:18.440 if I got that right

00:33:19.360 and fill in any gaps

00:33:20.380 if I got it wrong

00:33:21.200 sure that's absolutely

00:33:23.180 what happened

00:33:23.740 we had the deal

00:33:24.580 on the Saturday

00:33:25.340 it was publicly

00:33:27.480 announced on the Sunday

00:33:28.580 we implemented the deal

00:33:30.840 with the cooperation

00:33:31.920 of the city police

00:33:32.640 you can see footage

00:33:33.480 out there

00:33:33.960 where the trucks

00:33:35.200 are being escorted

00:33:36.240 by police

00:33:36.960 with flashing lights

00:33:38.020 up onto Wellington

00:33:39.320 and we cleared

00:33:42.040 two city blocks

00:33:42.960 on the Monday

00:33:44.500 moved 123

00:33:46.200 vehicles out

00:33:47.280 in the residential

00:33:49.360 type areas

00:33:50.160 of downtown

00:33:50.640 and I was in

00:33:52.840 constant communication

00:33:53.920 with the mayor's

00:33:54.700 chief of staff

00:33:55.500 and the city manager

00:33:56.800 Steve Kanellakis

00:33:57.740 and I still remember

00:33:59.480 on the Tuesday

00:34:00.120 we got stopped

00:34:00.980 due to miscommunication

00:34:01.920 with the police

00:34:02.620 because they had

00:34:03.020 to move barricades

00:34:03.800 and we got

00:34:04.140 we're about to move

00:34:05.000 trucks again

00:34:05.620 and they apologized

00:34:07.680 for it

00:34:08.120 all of my text messages

00:34:09.340 have been used

00:34:10.460 in evidence

00:34:10.980 both in the criminal

00:34:11.780 trial for Chris

00:34:12.640 and Tamara 0.77

00:34:13.060 as well as

00:34:14.320 in the public inquiry

00:34:15.300 but the most crucial

00:34:16.840 moment

00:34:17.400 was on the Wednesday

00:34:18.500 morning

00:34:18.980 after the invocation

00:34:20.520 of the emergencies act

00:34:21.740 we were ready

00:34:22.480 to move trucks again

00:34:23.540 and I got a phone call

00:34:24.960 from Steve Kay

00:34:25.920 Steve Kanellakis

00:34:26.980 the city manager

00:34:27.680 for the city of Ottawa

00:34:28.600 and he confirmed

00:34:29.720 what I'm about to say

00:34:30.660 in his testimony

00:34:31.400 before the public inquiry

00:34:32.760 his tone

00:34:33.920 was so

00:34:34.400 like

00:34:35.060 sorrowful

00:34:36.600 and sad

00:34:38.100 and he's like

00:34:39.180 Keith

00:34:39.500 we gave it

00:34:40.040 our best shot

00:34:40.920 but the federal government

00:34:42.440 doesn't want this to happen

00:34:43.940 they're blocking

00:34:44.960 any further moves

00:34:46.160 so Trudeau

00:34:47.780 had figured out

00:34:48.340 what we were doing

00:34:49.060 in terms of de-escalating

00:34:50.420 the mayor's position

00:34:51.740 was

00:34:52.360 he communicated

00:34:53.500 to us

00:34:54.220 that he said

00:34:54.940 if you move up

00:34:55.660 into Wellington

00:34:56.220 and consolidate up there

00:34:57.540 I don't care

00:34:58.180 if you stay there

00:34:58.820 for months

00:34:59.360 because that's

00:34:59.880 where your grievance is

00:35:00.760 with the federal government

00:35:02.000 so that was our move

00:35:02.980 the federal government

00:35:04.340 the Trudeau liberals

00:35:05.400 wanted to

00:35:06.600 I think they wanted

00:35:07.220 to send a message

00:35:07.980 to Canadians Ezra

00:35:09.040 that don't you dare

00:35:10.240 challenge us

00:35:11.140 you'll regret it

00:35:12.200 yeah

00:35:12.540 I think you're so right

00:35:13.440 now Chad

00:35:14.020 I want to bring you in here

00:35:15.480 because you have

00:35:16.300 a similar story

00:35:18.160 I think

00:35:18.920 and again

00:35:19.660 I'm relying on you

00:35:20.600 to correct me

00:35:21.080 because you were

00:35:21.520 the guy down there

00:35:22.260 the Cooch blockade

00:35:23.140 you

00:35:23.380 and your partners

00:35:24.500 sort of

00:35:25.260 did rotating shifts

00:35:26.540 and what Keith

00:35:27.160 was doing

00:35:27.660 out in Ottawa

00:35:28.280 you were that same liaison

00:35:30.040 with the RCMP

00:35:31.140 down there in Cooch

00:35:32.020 and I'm really glad

00:35:32.580 you were

00:35:33.040 first of all

00:35:34.200 I'd like you to confirm

00:35:35.080 for me

00:35:35.400 that there was no

00:35:36.060 violence whatsoever

00:35:37.100 and in fact

00:35:38.140 your advice

00:35:38.840 to the truckers

00:35:40.280 was always

00:35:40.800 keep it lawful guys

00:35:41.760 civil disobedience

00:35:42.760 nothing more rambunctious

00:35:44.960 but suddenly

00:35:46.720 I remember

00:35:47.500 it was the day

00:35:48.260 before the invocation

00:35:49.340 of the martial law

00:35:50.440 you correct me

00:35:51.000 if my memory's wrong

00:35:51.920 that the Mounties

00:35:54.060 had a big press release

00:35:55.380 we found some shotguns

00:35:57.420 and some hunting rifles

00:35:58.460 not in the saloon

00:35:59.720 but we found them

00:36:00.640 somewhere else

00:36:01.460 and they laid them out

00:36:02.560 in a beautiful photo op

00:36:04.080 and I looked at

00:36:05.020 I said

00:36:05.360 you know

00:36:05.600 that's probably scary

00:36:06.360 to city slickers

00:36:07.040 in Toronto

00:36:07.640 or Vancouver

00:36:08.300 or Ottawa

00:36:08.740 but that's just

00:36:09.640 sort of regular

00:36:10.320 for down there

00:36:11.260 in Cooch

00:36:12.160 like that's hunting

00:36:12.880 that's duck hunting

00:36:13.760 and frankly

00:36:15.260 it's sort of weird

00:36:17.080 if you don't have a gun

00:36:17.980 if you're down in Cooch

00:36:19.160 I take

00:36:20.080 what Keith just said

00:36:21.700 in Ottawa

00:36:22.160 and that RCMP

00:36:23.420 photo op

00:36:25.880 as the liberals

00:36:26.960 panicky attempt

00:36:28.320 to rebrand

00:36:29.680 a completely peaceful movement

00:36:31.300 both in Ottawa

00:36:32.060 and in Cooch

00:36:32.880 to rebrand it as

00:36:34.020 quote

00:36:34.300 serious violence

00:36:35.740 that's the language

00:36:36.440 I just quoted

00:36:37.140 from the CSIS Act

00:36:38.540 that's the language

00:36:39.240 this judge

00:36:39.840 was leaning on

00:36:40.840 they needed evidence

00:36:42.380 of quote

00:36:42.900 serious violence

00:36:44.400 they had none

00:36:45.440 so they broke off

00:36:46.820 the peace deal

00:36:47.680 in Ottawa

00:36:48.320 and trumped up

00:36:50.060 oh we found a shotgun

00:36:51.300 guys

00:36:51.740 that'll scare you

00:36:52.760 Toronto liberals

00:36:53.560 Chad

00:36:54.540 what was it

00:36:55.140 was that

00:36:55.740 was that the feeling

00:36:57.080 you had there

00:36:57.880 in Cooch

00:36:58.460 look Ezra

00:37:00.620 so this is going

00:37:01.260 to be a little

00:37:02.000 bit more difficult

00:37:02.700 for me

00:37:03.260 than it might be

00:37:04.000 for Keith

00:37:04.500 as you know

00:37:05.100 there's the

00:37:05.760 proceedings against

00:37:06.960 who are kind of

00:37:08.080 collectively known

00:37:08.820 as the Cooch Four 0.95

00:37:10.000 now these are the

00:37:10.940 gents who were

00:37:11.860 charged with

00:37:13.200 among other things

00:37:14.160 conspiracy

00:37:14.740 to commit murder

00:37:15.840 obviously they're

00:37:16.560 the subject

00:37:17.220 of these

00:37:18.360 these

00:37:19.540 these

00:37:20.080 these

00:37:20.420 these alleged

00:37:21.220 gun charges

00:37:22.220 that's currently

00:37:23.520 before the court

00:37:24.640 we don't represent

00:37:25.820 them

00:37:26.180 and unfortunately

00:37:27.320 my knowledge

00:37:28.160 in respect

00:37:28.800 of that particular

00:37:29.480 case is

00:37:30.220 is really

00:37:31.220 quite limited

00:37:32.220 now as you

00:37:33.460 also might know

00:37:34.340 there's three

00:37:35.280 other gentlemen

00:37:35.940 colloquially known

00:37:38.300 as the Cooch Three

00:37:39.400 who are the

00:37:40.820 alleged organizers

00:37:42.020 of the Cooch

00:37:42.620 blockade

00:37:43.140 now this is also

00:37:44.180 coming before the

00:37:45.160 courts in a

00:37:45.860 three-week jury

00:37:47.080 trial coming up

00:37:48.600 later this spring

00:37:49.420 and we've got

00:37:50.060 another pretrial

00:37:51.220 pretrial applications

00:37:52.900 to be heard

00:37:53.620 close to the end

00:37:54.660 of February on this

00:37:55.500 so these issues

00:37:56.600 are before the

00:37:57.960 courts now

00:37:58.920 now my role

00:38:00.200 down in Cooch

00:38:00.940 I'm

00:38:01.260 I'm

00:38:01.740 I'm

00:38:02.020 I'm

00:38:02.960 I'm okay

00:38:03.560 to acknowledge

00:38:04.880 that we were

00:38:05.420 there to provide

00:38:06.340 your standard

00:38:07.640 criminal and

00:38:08.580 charter advice

00:38:09.840 to anybody

00:38:10.620 on the ground

00:38:11.720 piecemeal

00:38:12.580 as they'd come

00:38:13.260 so the way

00:38:13.700 that we always

00:38:14.220 looked at it

00:38:14.880 is there'd be

00:38:16.120 a retainer

00:38:17.000 when someone

00:38:17.380 came up

00:38:17.800 to ask us

00:38:18.400 for a question

00:38:19.040 that retain

00:38:19.980 retainer ended

00:38:20.780 after the provision

00:38:21.620 of summary advice

00:38:22.540 and obviously

00:38:23.160 those legal services

00:38:24.780 were crowdfunded

00:38:25.860 now we did

00:38:27.040 assist and

00:38:28.400 observe some

00:38:29.600 of the negotiations

00:38:30.680 again that was

00:38:32.680 whether that was

00:38:33.540 me or whether

00:38:34.260 that was Martin

00:38:35.040 it just depends

00:38:36.500 on the timing

00:38:37.780 what I will say

00:38:39.620 is everything

00:38:41.040 at least from

00:38:42.140 kind of an

00:38:42.760 outsider perspective

00:38:43.880 after the fact

00:38:45.020 because I was

00:38:45.600 not down there

00:38:46.860 at the

00:38:48.540 at the moment

00:38:49.500 when the

00:38:50.000 when the guns

00:38:51.180 were alleged

00:38:51.660 to have been

00:38:52.280 discovered

00:38:52.840 in I suppose

00:38:55.500 a trailer

00:38:56.180 but it

00:38:58.000 smacked

00:38:58.600 to me

00:38:58.940 Ezra

00:38:59.280 that this

00:38:59.720 was

00:39:00.080 politically

00:39:01.040 motivated

00:39:01.720 we know

00:39:02.100 that Jason

00:39:02.620 Kenny

00:39:02.940 was getting

00:39:03.440 a lot

00:39:03.740 of pushback

00:39:04.660 from the

00:39:05.440 grassroots

00:39:06.060 conservative

00:39:06.740 movement

00:39:07.160 in rural

00:39:07.660 Alberta

00:39:08.160 and what

00:39:09.860 we've seen

00:39:10.420 at least

00:39:10.920 and while

00:39:11.660 this might

00:39:12.040 be anecdotal

00:39:12.700 in other

00:39:13.240 cases

00:39:13.740 and we've

00:39:14.400 run a ton

00:39:14.880 of these

00:39:15.180 cases

00:39:15.540 whether it's

00:39:16.080 the COVID

00:39:16.860 kind of

00:39:17.500 restaurant

00:39:17.840 rebellion

00:39:18.260 cases

00:39:18.740 and the

00:39:19.700 lockdowns

00:39:20.900 you know

00:39:21.760 looking at

00:39:22.300 even

00:39:23.140 even

00:39:23.480 Minister

00:39:24.040 Gilbeau

00:39:24.520 blocking

00:39:25.200 rebel news

00:39:26.020 on Twitter

00:39:26.600 it's become

00:39:27.680 very apparent

00:39:28.460 to me

00:39:28.860 that so

00:39:29.500 many of

00:39:30.220 these

00:39:30.400 government

00:39:30.720 decisions

00:39:31.240 are almost

00:39:32.880 wholly

00:39:33.580 politically

00:39:34.260 motivated

00:39:35.040 and what's

00:39:36.700 even more

00:39:37.420 interesting

00:39:37.820 is they're

00:39:39.080 all getting

00:39:39.440 smacked down

00:39:40.020 by the court

00:39:40.540 and I suppose

00:39:41.100 that should

00:39:41.580 lend a degree

00:39:42.440 of confidence

00:39:43.900 to kind

00:39:44.800 of the

00:39:45.220 you know

00:39:45.540 the freedom

00:39:46.080 movement

00:39:46.580 but for

00:39:47.280 whatever reason

00:39:47.900 despite all

00:39:48.640 these

00:39:48.920 quite literally

00:39:50.100 hundreds of

00:39:51.040 victories against

00:39:52.000 the forces

00:39:53.000 of authoritarianism

00:39:54.320 and government

00:39:56.500 overreach

00:39:57.240 I'm still

00:39:58.220 gobsmacked

00:39:58.980 every time

00:39:59.900 there's a

00:40:00.360 victory in

00:40:01.020 the courtroom

00:40:01.700 what we've

00:40:03.260 seen though

00:40:03.940 is we've

00:40:04.500 seen at

00:40:05.380 least in

00:40:05.760 the case

00:40:06.120 of the

00:40:06.420 federal

00:40:06.760 government

00:40:07.300 a government

00:40:08.160 that has

00:40:08.880 at every

00:40:09.760 single turn

00:40:10.980 acted

00:40:11.780 politically

00:40:12.400 and

00:40:12.860 unconstitutionally

00:40:13.840 whether it's

00:40:14.280 the plastics

00:40:15.000 ban that got

00:40:15.960 overturned

00:40:16.640 and then have

00:40:17.040 the liberals

00:40:17.440 say

00:40:17.720 well

00:40:18.020 we don't

00:40:19.040 really care

00:40:19.500 about the

00:40:19.940 court's

00:40:20.380 decision

00:40:20.740 or we

00:40:21.080 don't agree

00:40:21.560 with it

00:40:21.940 and then try

00:40:22.380 to perhaps

00:40:23.060 find some

00:40:23.560 other mechanism

00:40:24.300 to try

00:40:25.480 to get

00:40:26.180 at the

00:40:26.480 ends

00:40:26.900 that they're

00:40:29.120 looking for

00:40:29.800 also

00:40:30.860 we've seen

00:40:31.840 this robust

00:40:32.940 blocking

00:40:33.480 of

00:40:33.780 journalists

00:40:35.120 on Twitter

00:40:35.780 we saw

00:40:36.400 an RCMP

00:40:37.700 member

00:40:38.240 slam 0.86

00:40:38.860 David Menzies

00:40:39.900 head into

00:40:40.920 a wall

00:40:41.420 when he was

00:40:41.820 just asking

00:40:42.400 some questions

00:40:43.120 if you compare

00:40:44.140 that to the

00:40:44.840 treatment

00:40:45.180 I suppose

00:40:45.920 of Rebel News

00:40:46.720 by the police

00:40:47.660 in Switzerland

00:40:48.640 during the

00:40:49.820 WEF

00:40:50.540 forum

00:40:50.940 it doesn't

00:40:53.600 take a rocket

00:40:54.400 scientist

00:40:54.920 with more

00:40:55.500 than a couple

00:40:55.940 IQ points

00:40:56.640 to rub

00:40:56.960 together

00:40:57.340 to understand

00:40:58.480 that a lot

00:40:59.400 of this stuff

00:41:00.040 is politically

00:41:00.660 motivated

00:41:01.320 and perhaps

00:41:01.980 a lot of this

00:41:02.840 stuff is just

00:41:03.400 coming from

00:41:04.080 the office

00:41:05.100 of the PMO

00:41:05.880 again

00:41:06.380 I'm a lawyer

00:41:07.200 and my

00:41:08.120 opinion

00:41:08.420 is mostly

00:41:09.020 based on

00:41:09.620 evidence

00:41:10.020 not necessarily

00:41:11.020 anecdotal

00:41:11.700 conclusions

00:41:12.340 but it seems

00:41:13.520 like the

00:41:13.820 writing to me

00:41:14.460 is on the

00:41:14.940 wall

00:41:15.200 by the time

00:41:16.240 that the

00:41:16.640 emergency

00:41:17.380 measures act

00:41:18.240 was invocated

00:41:19.300 the blockades

00:41:20.120 largely had

00:41:20.820 been cleared

00:41:21.500 I mean

00:41:22.720 freezing bank

00:41:23.980 accounts of

00:41:24.560 single mothers

00:41:25.360 for sending

00:41:26.080 20 bucks

00:41:27.000 to

00:41:27.340 GoFundMe

00:41:29.700 or to

00:41:30.340 a Bitcoin

00:41:31.120 address

00:41:31.860 that smacks

00:41:33.620 of

00:41:33.940 Stalinism

00:41:35.020 and

00:41:36.040 fascism

00:41:37.400 it's

00:41:38.240 absolutely

00:41:38.940 unacceptable

00:41:39.600 and I think

00:41:40.220 that the

00:41:41.300 court's decision

00:41:42.000 in this case

00:41:42.780 really was

00:41:43.460 a slap back

00:41:45.120 at the

00:41:45.360 government

00:41:45.640 obviously

00:41:46.480 the first

00:41:48.020 thing that

00:41:48.360 the liberals

00:41:48.780 come out

00:41:49.200 and say

00:41:49.520 is that

00:41:49.800 well

00:41:49.980 they're

00:41:50.140 going to

00:41:50.340 appeal it

00:41:50.900 so

00:41:51.200 I guess

00:41:52.160 my optimism

00:41:52.740 needs to

00:41:53.160 be tempered

00:41:53.720 to some

00:41:54.040 degree

00:41:54.320 because

00:41:54.580 we really

00:41:54.960 need to

00:41:55.360 see

00:41:55.520 if they

00:41:55.820 do

00:41:56.060 in fact

00:41:56.480 intend

00:41:56.840 on

00:41:57.040 appealing

00:41:57.340 this

00:41:57.600 decision

00:41:58.040 what an

00:41:58.640 appellate

00:41:59.080 panel

00:41:59.400 at the

00:41:59.720 federal

00:42:00.100 court

00:42:01.380 will

00:42:01.680 rule

00:42:02.700 it's

00:42:03.200 a lengthy

00:42:03.580 decision

00:42:04.120 and I

00:42:04.820 think

00:42:04.980 it's

00:42:05.140 a guarded

00:42:05.600 decision

00:42:06.140 and one

00:42:06.960 thing

00:42:07.140 that I

00:42:07.380 know

00:42:07.540 about

00:42:07.780 what they

00:42:08.400 call

00:42:08.580 first

00:42:09.020 instance

00:42:09.640 judges

00:42:10.200 or

00:42:10.760 justices

00:42:11.600 who

00:42:11.840 are

00:42:12.060 basically

00:42:12.660 the

00:42:12.920 first

00:42:13.320 court

00:42:13.700 to

00:42:13.920 hear

00:42:14.220 something

00:42:14.700 is

00:42:15.500 really

00:42:15.940 it's

00:42:16.400 their

00:42:16.560 job

00:42:16.900 to

00:42:17.080 try

00:42:17.360 to

00:42:17.780 render

00:42:18.380 a

00:42:18.780 robust

00:42:19.340 decision

00:42:19.940 that

00:42:20.960 can

00:42:21.160 potentially

00:42:21.680 have

00:42:22.780 as

00:42:23.140 limited

00:42:23.660 avenues

00:42:24.640 for

00:42:25.000 appeal

00:42:25.420 as

00:42:25.620 possible

00:42:26.040 so

00:42:26.340 it'll

00:42:26.900 take

00:42:27.080 some

00:42:27.280 creative

00:42:27.620 lawyering

00:42:28.100 I think

00:42:28.440 on the

00:42:28.700 part

00:42:28.980 of

00:42:29.220 the

00:42:30.300 liberal

00:42:30.560 government

00:42:31.000 to try

00:42:31.440 to overturn

00:42:31.860 this

00:42:32.160 decision

00:42:32.580 I

00:42:32.880 want to

00:42:33.220 see

00:42:33.500 how

00:42:33.880 the

00:42:34.120 CBC

00:42:34.580 is

00:42:35.340 handling

00:42:35.680 this

00:42:35.940 this

00:42:36.100 must

00:42:36.300 be a

00:42:36.580 very

00:42:36.820 dark

00:42:37.500 day

00:42:38.080 for

00:42:38.420 them

00:42:38.700 can

00:42:39.240 you

00:42:39.360 go to

00:42:39.640 the

00:42:39.820 CBC

00:42:40.260 and

00:42:41.260 can

00:42:44.860 you

00:42:45.200 let's

00:42:45.540 read it

00:42:45.880 together

00:42:46.180 I'm

00:42:46.520 laughing

00:42:47.080 in

00:42:47.280 advance

00:42:47.760 I'm

00:42:48.340 laughing

00:42:48.960 in

00:42:49.180 advance

00:42:49.620 federal

00:42:50.840 federal

00:42:50.860 government

00:42:51.280 decision

00:42:51.900 to invoke

00:42:52.680 emergency

00:42:53.120 act

00:42:53.540 against

00:42:53.840 convoy

00:42:54.340 protests

00:42:54.720 was

00:42:54.940 unreasonable

00:42:55.740 court

00:42:56.160 rules

00:42:56.520 government

00:42:57.200 says

00:42:57.500 it

00:42:57.640 plans

00:42:57.860 to

00:42:58.000 appeal

00:42:58.200 to

00:42:58.360 the

00:42:58.380 decision

00:42:58.600 so

00:42:58.760 let's

00:42:59.000 stop

00:42:59.220 right

00:42:59.440 there

00:42:59.800 it's

00:43:01.600 not

00:43:01.780 Justin

00:43:02.160 Trudeau's

00:43:02.620 decision

00:43:03.080 it's

00:43:04.000 not

00:43:04.160 Christian

00:43:04.460 Freeland's

00:43:04.960 decision

00:43:05.260 here's

00:43:05.860 how it

00:43:06.060 works

00:43:06.200 at the

00:43:06.440 CBC

00:43:06.780 if

00:43:07.400 there's

00:43:07.660 good

00:43:07.960 news

00:43:08.520 Trudeau

00:43:09.580 did

00:43:09.880 this

00:43:10.360 Freeland

00:43:10.920 did

00:43:11.180 that

00:43:11.440 if

00:43:11.600 it's

00:43:11.760 good

00:43:11.940 news

00:43:12.120 it's

00:43:12.260 very

00:43:12.420 personal

00:43:12.740 or

00:43:13.080 liberals

00:43:13.600 do

00:43:13.880 this

00:43:14.020 but

00:43:14.320 if

00:43:14.460 it's

00:43:19.620 decision

00:43:21.720 to invoke

00:43:22.120 emergency

00:43:22.440 act

00:43:22.820 against

00:43:23.100 convoy

00:43:23.560 protests

00:43:24.020 was

00:43:24.360 unreasonable

00:43:25.720 well

00:43:26.640 it did

00:43:27.320 say that

00:43:27.860 but it

00:43:28.160 said a lot

00:43:28.520 more than

00:43:28.840 that

00:43:29.020 didn't

00:43:29.240 it

00:43:29.400 it

00:43:29.540 said

00:43:29.700 it

00:43:29.800 was

00:43:30.000 illegal

00:43:31.240 unjustifiable

00:43:32.580 and

00:43:33.080 unconstitutional

00:43:33.860 isn't it funny

00:43:34.480 that the CBC

00:43:35.120 says it was

00:43:35.580 just unreasonable

00:43:36.240 yeah it wasn't

00:43:37.060 reasonable

00:43:37.580 guys

00:43:37.840 no

00:43:38.140 it was

00:43:38.900 it was

00:43:39.380 breaking

00:43:39.740 the law

00:43:40.380 you

00:43:41.000 government

00:43:41.780 hacks 0.98

00:43:42.460 you

00:43:42.700 paid

00:43:43.620 for

00:43:44.040 propagandas

00:43:44.940 I have

00:43:45.920 to tell

00:43:46.260 you again

00:43:46.780 that if

00:43:47.780 you need

00:43:48.120 an

00:43:48.280 adjective

00:43:48.800 next

00:43:49.240 to the

00:43:49.480 word

00:43:49.640 journalist

00:43:50.220 you're

00:43:50.640 not

00:43:50.840 a

00:43:51.040 journalist

00:43:51.480 so

00:43:52.600 these

00:43:52.860 government

00:43:53.440 journalists

00:43:54.000 of the

00:43:54.420 CBC

00:43:54.860 state

00:43:55.260 broadcaster

00:43:55.960 are

00:43:56.280 wicked

00:43:56.800 liars

00:43:57.680 never

00:43:58.240 trust

00:43:59.120 the

00:43:59.420 CBC

00:43:59.840 they were

00:44:00.540 the number

00:44:00.840 one

00:44:01.080 haters

00:44:01.700 during

00:44:02.340 the

00:44:02.500 convoy

00:44:02.900 they were

00:44:03.140 the ones

00:44:03.460 who compiled

00:44:04.120 the enemies

00:44:05.000 list

00:44:05.400 that was

00:44:06.140 blacklisted

00:44:07.400 and had

00:44:08.080 their

00:44:08.220 CBC

00:44:09.280 were the

00:44:10.100 running

00:44:10.380 dogs

00:44:10.760 the

00:44:10.980 stalking

00:44:11.480 horses

00:44:11.840 they were

00:44:12.600 the ones

00:44:13.120 that rounded

00:44:14.320 up the

00:44:14.720 truckers

00:44:15.080 by publishing

00:44:15.680 their names

00:44:16.220 that then

00:44:16.960 went

00:44:17.340 to have

00:44:19.360 their bank

00:44:19.680 accounts

00:44:20.020 seized

00:44:20.400 can you

00:44:21.980 put that

00:44:22.380 CBC

00:44:22.780 news story

00:44:23.300 up again

00:44:23.640 I want

00:44:23.920 to read

00:44:24.200 it

00:44:24.520 let's scroll

00:44:27.760 down a little

00:44:28.280 bit

00:44:28.540 I haven't

00:44:29.520 read this

00:44:29.840 yet but I

00:44:30.240 know it's

00:44:30.480 going to be

00:44:30.720 good

00:44:31.000 a federal

00:44:35.220 judge

00:44:35.760 says the

00:44:36.260 liberal

00:44:36.440 government's

00:44:36.840 use of

00:44:37.100 the

00:44:37.200 emergencies

00:44:37.500 act

00:44:37.780 in early

00:44:38.060 2022

00:44:38.500 to clear

00:44:38.920 convoy

00:44:39.280 protesters

00:44:39.740 was

00:44:40.360 unreasonable

00:44:40.940 and

00:44:41.140 infringed

00:44:41.480 on

00:44:41.600 protesters

00:44:42.060 charter

00:44:42.440 rights

00:44:42.880 I

00:44:44.780 concluded

00:44:45.120 there

00:44:45.320 was

00:44:45.460 no

00:44:45.700 national

00:44:46.200 emergency

00:44:46.560 justifying

00:44:47.080 the

00:44:47.200 invocation

00:44:47.600 of the

00:44:47.780 emergencies

00:44:48.080 act

00:44:48.400 and the

00:44:48.580 decision

00:44:48.860 to do

00:44:49.140 so

00:44:49.320 was

00:44:49.560 therefore

00:44:49.900 unreasonable

00:44:50.840 and

00:44:51.040 ultra

00:44:51.320 viris

00:44:51.760 federal

00:44:52.160 court

00:44:52.620 justice

00:44:53.060 richard

00:44:53.540 mostly

00:44:53.900 wrote

00:44:54.220 in a

00:44:54.860 tuesday

00:44:55.560 decision

00:44:56.040 ultra

00:44:56.640 viris

00:44:56.980 is a

00:44:57.240 latin

00:44:57.500 term

00:44:57.740 used

00:44:57.920 by

00:44:58.080 courts

00:44:58.320 to

00:44:58.460 refer

00:44:58.620 to

00:44:58.760 actions

00:44:59.060 beyond

00:44:59.340 the

00:44:59.540 scope

00:44:59.740 of

00:44:59.860 the

00:44:59.960 law

00:45:00.280 deputy

00:45:02.000 prime

00:45:02.240 minister

00:45:02.460 christian

00:45:02.820 freeland

00:45:03.040 told

00:45:03.260 reporters

00:45:03.740 at a

00:45:04.060 cabinet

00:45:04.300 retreat

00:45:04.600 in

00:45:04.760 montreal

00:45:05.040 that the

00:45:05.280 government

00:45:05.460 plans to

00:45:05.940 appeal

00:45:06.140 the

00:45:06.280 decision

00:45:06.620 where

00:45:07.440 is

00:45:08.280 trudeau

00:45:09.040 where

00:45:09.560 is

00:45:09.780 that

00:45:09.960 little

00:45:10.280 man

00:45:10.840 coward

00:45:11.280 why

00:45:11.920 is

00:45:12.180 he

00:45:12.340 not

00:45:12.700 owning

00:45:13.400 this

00:45:13.840 i

00:45:14.060 know

00:45:14.220 why

00:45:14.520 he

00:45:15.140 wants

00:45:15.300 to

00:45:15.420 push 0.64

00:45:15.600 it

00:45:15.720 off

00:45:15.860 on

00:45:16.000 twitchy

00:45:16.420 and

00:45:17.380 he

00:45:17.700 wants

00:45:18.020 headlines

00:45:18.440 like

00:45:18.700 the

00:45:18.960 federal

00:45:19.300 government

00:45:19.800 did

00:45:20.060 something

00:45:20.400 wrong

00:45:20.680 so

00:45:21.380 far

00:45:21.540 i

00:45:21.680 haven't

00:45:22.000 seen

00:45:22.220 justin

00:45:22.600 trudeau

00:45:22.880 name

00:45:23.220 in

00:45:23.360 this

00:45:23.580 report

00:45:23.980 yet

00:45:24.240 have

00:45:24.420 you

00:45:24.600 let's

00:45:25.400 keep

00:45:25.560 reading

00:45:25.880 the

00:45:28.280 federal

00:45:28.620 court

00:45:28.960 case

00:45:29.360 was

00:45:29.940 brought

00:45:30.140 by

00:45:30.280 two

00:45:30.440 national

00:45:30.760 groups

00:45:31.020 the

00:45:31.160 canadian

00:45:31.400 civil

00:45:31.640 liberty

00:45:31.820 association

00:45:32.340 and the

00:45:32.940 canadian

00:45:33.200 constitution

00:45:33.660 foundation

00:45:34.220 and two

00:45:35.480 people whose

00:45:35.900 bank accounts

00:45:36.380 were frozen

00:45:36.780 they argued

00:45:37.280 ottawa did not

00:45:37.960 meet the legal

00:45:38.440 threshold

00:45:38.900 when it invoked

00:45:39.760 the legislation

00:45:40.260 which had never

00:45:40.840 been used

00:45:41.240 before

00:45:41.620 that's a good

00:45:43.400 point to

00:45:43.720 remember right

00:45:44.620 there

00:45:44.960 not even

00:45:46.140 during 9-11

00:45:46.920 was this

00:45:47.360 used

00:45:47.760 trudeau

00:45:48.440 thought that

00:45:49.640 this was the

00:45:50.100 worst crisis

00:45:50.600 canada has

00:45:51.200 had

00:45:51.520 in a

00:45:52.440 generation

00:45:52.900 was it

00:45:53.420 really

00:45:53.620 some hot

00:45:54.120 tubs

00:45:54.460 and bouncy

00:45:54.940 castles

00:45:55.440 thousands of

00:45:57.700 protesters angry

00:45:58.600 with the

00:45:58.900 government's

00:45:59.220 response to

00:45:59.680 the covid-19

00:46:00.320 pandemic

00:46:00.740 including vaccine

00:46:01.540 requirements

00:46:02.000 descended on

00:46:02.960 ottawa in

00:46:03.440 january of

00:46:03.920 2022 and

00:46:05.000 blocked border

00:46:05.620 points elsewhere

00:46:06.340 the protesters

00:46:07.240 parked large

00:46:08.040 vehicles on

00:46:08.740 key arteries in

00:46:09.700 the capital city

00:46:10.300 for nearly a

00:46:10.820 month and

00:46:11.540 honked their

00:46:11.960 horns incessantly

00:46:12.740 for days

00:46:13.680 you okay

00:46:14.540 you guys okay

00:46:15.560 you heard some

00:46:16.020 horns honking

00:46:16.740 i hope you're

00:46:17.180 okay

00:46:17.580 the government

00:46:19.780 invoked the

00:46:20.260 emergencies act

00:46:20.900 on february

00:46:21.440 14th

00:46:21.960 2022

00:46:22.440 it gave law

00:46:24.780 enforcement

00:46:25.140 extraordinary

00:46:25.660 powers to

00:46:26.180 remove and

00:46:26.500 arrest protesters

00:46:27.200 and gave the

00:46:27.580 government the

00:46:27.860 power to freeze

00:46:28.460 the finances of

00:46:29.600 those connected

00:46:30.380 to the protesters

00:46:30.880 what does that

00:46:31.240 mean connected

00:46:31.820 to the temporary

00:46:34.280 emergency powers

00:46:35.000 also gave

00:46:35.420 authorities ability

00:46:36.100 to commandeer

00:46:36.820 tow trucks to

00:46:37.800 remove protesters

00:46:38.600 vehicles from the

00:46:39.320 streets of the

00:46:39.680 capital by the

00:46:40.500 way let me tell

00:46:41.060 you that the

00:46:42.080 criminal code gives

00:46:42.880 police that power

00:46:43.700 too i don't know

00:46:44.220 if you know that

00:46:44.840 you don't need an

00:46:45.740 emergencies act

00:46:46.620 to commandeer a

00:46:48.540 vehicle police can

00:46:49.300 commandeer a

00:46:49.880 vehicle of your

00:46:50.880 doors right now

00:46:51.680 under the criminal

00:46:52.780 code so that's

00:46:54.020 the cbc showing

00:46:54.820 their lack of

00:46:55.900 knowledge i see

00:46:57.900 on our series of

00:47:00.680 monitors that one

00:47:03.260 of my favorite

00:47:03.660 lawyers in the

00:47:04.160 country is now on

00:47:05.060 standby i've gotten

00:47:07.480 to know tamara

00:47:08.100 leach over the last

00:47:08.920 year i really didn't

00:47:09.520 know i hadn't met

00:47:10.480 her even spoken with

00:47:11.240 her before she was 0.87

00:47:12.400 arrested but over

00:47:13.100 the course of the

00:47:13.640 last year i've gotten

00:47:14.220 to know her fairly

00:47:14.880 well i've gone on

00:47:15.840 tour with her we

00:47:16.420 published her book

00:47:17.120 which is a national

00:47:18.680 bestseller just

00:47:19.480 outstanding and

00:47:21.000 over the course of

00:47:21.580 the last six months

00:47:22.200 or so i've had the

00:47:22.880 pleasure to meet

00:47:23.540 with and speak to

00:47:24.680 lawrence greenspawn

00:47:25.960 who's a leading

00:47:26.560 criminal lawyer in

00:47:27.600 the city of ottawa

00:47:28.360 who has taken what

00:47:29.740 we all thought would

00:47:30.380 be a case for a

00:47:31.160 couple of weeks

00:47:31.660 it's now stretching

00:47:32.400 on the better part

00:47:33.120 of the year and

00:47:34.240 i'm absolutely

00:47:34.740 delighted to bring

00:47:36.080 him on the show

00:47:36.700 now a man i

00:47:38.140 truly you know god

00:47:39.140 forbid i ever get

00:47:39.960 charged with the

00:47:40.540 crime myself and

00:47:41.260 may it never

00:47:41.720 happen and it

00:47:42.360 never has but god

00:47:43.760 forbid if it does

00:47:44.740 uh lawrence i uh i

00:47:46.880 hope you would take

00:47:47.520 me as a client

00:47:48.180 because i've been so

00:47:49.400 impressed with your

00:47:50.020 work for tamara leach

00:47:51.460 and thank god you're

00:47:52.360 there for her and by

00:47:54.080 the way thanks for

00:47:54.620 taking some time to

00:47:55.420 appear on our live

00:47:56.140 stream we have about

00:47:56.620 8 000 people watching

00:47:57.700 concurrently right now

00:47:58.840 give me your reaction

00:48:00.380 to this astonishing

00:48:01.920 ruling by the federal

00:48:03.140 court which caught me

00:48:04.200 by surprise maybe you

00:48:05.320 thought it was coming

00:48:06.420 but boy i'm

00:48:07.420 surprised give me

00:48:08.180 your reaction

00:48:08.780 well first off thanks

00:48:11.200 for the uh the very

00:48:12.240 kind words uh as

00:48:13.740 Ezra um you don't 0.94

00:48:15.660 want to need me but

00:48:16.620 if you ever do i'm

00:48:17.840 there for you okay

00:48:18.620 thank you um this

00:48:22.020 this is you know what

00:48:23.740 we've been saying all

00:48:24.680 along uh the those of

00:48:27.500 the various organizations

00:48:28.920 that appeared before uh

00:48:30.680 the ruleau commission

00:48:31.620 were saying just this

00:48:33.320 this is this was an

00:48:34.840 unnecessary overreaction

00:48:37.600 uh to uh what was

00:48:41.120 certainly in ottawa a

00:48:42.760 uh peaceful protest

00:48:44.680 and uh what uh mr

00:48:48.800 justice mosley who by

00:48:50.940 the way has has is a

00:48:52.400 very experienced federal

00:48:54.300 court judge and has been

00:48:55.580 there for oh 30 years

00:48:58.660 he's a former crown

00:48:59.900 attorney and uh he knows

00:49:02.920 of what he speaks he's

00:49:04.840 found that these uh

00:49:07.140 temporary incredibly uh

00:49:09.640 powerful measures were

00:49:12.100 unconstitutional and uh of

00:49:15.120 course the the knee-jerk

00:49:16.180 reaction of the government

00:49:17.400 is oh yeah we're going to

00:49:18.620 appeal but you know before

00:49:20.580 they appeal this judgment

00:49:22.480 from from it's 190 pages

00:49:24.880 it's thorough it's it's

00:49:27.380 damning and uh they come to 0.55

00:49:30.520 the conclusion that that we've

00:49:32.240 been saying all along which is

00:49:33.540 that these emergency measures

00:49:35.800 were completely unnecessary

00:49:37.700 i had a quick skim of the

00:49:40.540 judgment i don't even think

00:49:42.900 that there was the kind of

00:49:44.400 evidence that we've heard

00:49:45.600 in the uh tamara leach

00:49:48.340 chris barber trial about all

00:49:50.720 of the efforts by the

00:49:52.360 demonstrators to try and

00:49:54.300 reduce the footprint i mean

00:49:55.900 those were ongoing pursuance

00:49:57.540 to an agreement as you know

00:49:59.060 which was reached with the

00:50:00.380 mayor of ottawa on february the

00:50:01.900 12th and chris barber and

00:50:04.420 and many others had already

00:50:05.820 taken all kinds of steps

00:50:07.680 trying to reduce the

00:50:09.100 footprint of the impact of

00:50:11.400 the demonstrators on the

00:50:12.800 downtown core and the

00:50:14.200 residents of the downtown

00:50:15.040 core i don't even see any

00:50:17.020 mention of that in the

00:50:18.500 mosley decision uh but when

00:50:20.960 you when you look at that

00:50:22.160 and you look at what was

00:50:23.040 going on almost from the

00:50:25.640 start of the demonstration

00:50:27.220 the efforts to try and reduce

00:50:28.940 the footprint uh there was

00:50:31.060 absolutely no need uh for

00:50:34.100 trudeau to do what he did

00:50:35.520 and uh not only that that

00:50:38.400 there was some question

00:50:39.700 about did he even realize

00:50:41.500 did anybody actually tell

00:50:43.000 him about what was going on

00:50:44.720 in the streets right in front

00:50:45.980 of parliament because you

00:50:48.320 know there was a genuine

00:50:49.880 effort on a daily basis they

00:50:51.640 had actually already moved

00:50:53.320 40 of the big rigs uh had

00:50:56.640 been moved uh and and this

00:50:59.380 was part of the the agreement

00:51:01.320 that had been struck with

00:51:02.300 the mayor um there was

00:51:04.140 absolutely not not no need

00:51:06.420 for the emergencies act and

00:51:08.020 every reason not to use

00:51:09.980 these kinds of very powerful

00:51:12.920 measures yeah we spoke

00:51:15.000 earlier with keith wilson who

00:51:16.280 was a lawyer negotiator for the

00:51:17.960 truckers who was on in daily in

00:51:20.620 fact you could even say hourly

00:51:22.200 communication with city

00:51:24.100 officials police officials mayor's

00:51:25.900 office um he was to proactively

00:51:28.820 you're using the phrase reduce

00:51:31.500 the footprint i would say

00:51:33.580 reduce the temperature reduce the

00:51:35.540 friction and you said well it

00:51:38.380 sounds like trudeau didn't know

00:51:39.580 about it a darker interpretation

00:51:41.660 which i would choose is that

00:51:43.240 trudeau absolutely did know about

00:51:45.940 it and that's why he pulled the

00:51:47.420 trigger on february 14th because

00:51:49.600 he didn't want this peace deal that

00:51:51.920 the truckers had negotiated with the

00:51:53.300 city coming into effect i think he

00:51:55.140 realized whoa i'd better if i'm

00:51:56.780 going to use the emergencies act i

00:51:58.120 better do it now because

00:51:59.500 everything is getting calm and

00:52:01.220 calm remember the coots blockade

00:52:03.100 had ended in advance of this so

00:52:05.600 he was running out of

00:52:07.040 justification i think he pulled the

00:52:08.800 trigger because he wanted to be

00:52:10.140 to be dramatic like his father had

00:52:12.620 been during the flq crisis some 50

00:52:15.860 years ago and i think that and that

00:52:18.540 was you know a lot of people had

00:52:20.080 their doubts about that from a

00:52:21.260 civil liberties point of view but

00:52:22.820 trudeau didn't even follow the law

00:52:24.100 we were just going through the law it

00:52:25.880 had to have a serious violence in

00:52:28.140 the order of a revolution or a war

00:52:29.920 or or a true insurrection

00:52:31.720 lawrence was there any violence

00:52:34.500 whatsoever in ottawa that you know

00:52:38.080 of during the entire time the convoy

00:52:40.820 was there i i don't know of any

00:52:42.840 violence on the contrary i mean if

00:52:46.160 there had been uh the crown as you

00:52:49.040 know has now closed their case uh in

00:52:51.880 our in the lich barber uh trial they've

00:52:54.900 closed their case you can be sure

00:52:56.640 that if there was any violence um

00:53:00.080 they would have it would have been

00:53:01.620 front and center in the in the trial

00:53:03.180 uh it's there wasn't any i mean really

00:53:07.920 what the problem was uh with the

00:53:10.580 demonstrators uh is at least in ottawa

00:53:12.940 was ever and most canadians will say

00:53:15.440 this oh yeah i'm all in favor of the

00:53:17.780 freedom of expression and uh right to

00:53:20.880 peaceful assembly they're all in favor

00:53:22.620 of that uh but then unfortunately most

00:53:25.200 canadians will say yeah but it lasted

00:53:27.300 too long it was annoying it was

00:53:29.960 inconvenient well you know

00:53:31.720 constitutional i don't have to tell you

00:53:33.940 that constitutional rights there's no

00:53:35.780 time limit on them and uh there there's

00:53:39.220 a reason that they're called fundamental

00:53:40.680 freedoms and they're enshrined in our

00:53:42.760 constitution and they shouldn't be

00:53:44.980 messed with because the prime minister of

00:53:48.680 the day thinks it well it's i'm going to

00:53:51.100 look good if i come out tough like my

00:53:52.800 dad well when trudeau the senior said you

00:53:56.300 know in answer to the question what would

00:53:58.280 you do in response to uh what's going on

00:54:02.440 and and he turned on his heel and said just

00:54:05.140 watch me canadians across the country were

00:54:08.480 going wow that's great he's a tough guy and

00:54:10.680 he's going to deal with this situation

00:54:12.080 uh that was not the scenario in february of

00:54:16.760 2022 it just it was a completely different

00:54:19.900 non-violent scenario there were there are no

00:54:22.460 cabinet ministers that were being kidnapped or

00:54:24.660 killed um it's far from it and uh what this

00:54:29.060 judgment does is it basically says look this

00:54:31.120 was this was crushing a peanut with a with a

00:54:34.360 sledgehammer when you know the peanut was

00:54:36.660 just lying there there was no violence

00:54:38.460 well those are chunks of the live stream if

00:54:48.400 you want more it actually was about an

00:54:50.240 hour and a half hour and 45 minutes you

00:54:51.740 can go on our youtube channel or our rumble

00:54:54.680 channel and watch the whole thing if you

00:54:56.680 just can't get enough until tomorrow on

00:54:59.100 behalf of all of us here at our world

00:55:00.880 headquarters and around the world good

00:55:03.620 night and keep fighting for freedom

00:55:05.760 and we'll see you next time

00:55:21.820 you

Rebel News Podcast - January 24, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau's tyrannical crackdown on the Freedom Convoy ruled 'unconstitutional'

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