Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau's climate czar proclaims his new government mantra： Environmental Equity

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. New Marxist campaign just dropped. Stephen Gilboa, very excited about it.

00:00:04.260 It's called environmental equity. And yes, it's a new form of Marxism. I'll tell you what the

00:00:09.360 government's thinking and how they deliberately don't define the terms. That's next. But first,

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00:00:56.640 Tonight, Stephen Gilbeau announces a new government ideology, environmental equity. It's February 8th,

00:01:14.840 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:16.240 You're fighting for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:26.640 There are some true liberals left in the Liberal Party, not too many these days.

00:01:36.840 There's some people who are completely devoid of ideology. They're just there to win or to cash in somehow.

00:01:43.420 And then there are the true radicals, mostly Marxists. I know that sounds like a dramatic flourish

00:01:49.100 to accuse someone of being a communist in 2024, but it's not an accusation. It's a description.

00:01:55.160 Or in this case, it's pretty much what they call themselves.

00:01:59.180 Look at this from Stephen Gilbeau, the convicted criminal who serves as Trudeau's environment minister.

00:02:04.840 It was a tweet that I now have access to since he's unblocked me by court order.

00:02:09.740 He says,

00:02:10.080 We are committed to advancing environmental justice because every individual in Canada has a right to a healthy environment.

00:02:17.400 We want to hear from you, share your experiences to help shape policy and advance environmental equity in Canada here.

00:02:25.920 And then there's a link, which I'll get to in a moment.

00:02:28.680 So when I was a kid, the environment was clean air, clean soil, clean water.

00:02:33.000 Pretty easy to understand.

00:02:36.000 Global warming, not so much. You can't see it.

00:02:38.880 You have to take someone's word for it.

00:02:41.180 Greenhouse gases, the number one of which is simply water vapor.

00:02:44.140 However, they're all invisible and harmless.

00:02:46.660 I mean, carbon dioxide, which is the one that the government obsesses over, it's harmless.

00:02:50.780 Humans and animals exhale it.

00:02:52.940 Plants breathe it in.

00:02:54.920 Like I say, not really anything to do with clean air, clean water, and clean soil.

00:02:58.380 But at least they were pretending it was about the environment, although I think most of us see through that now.

00:03:05.200 But look at this new thing, environmental justice or environmental equity, as they're also calling it.

00:03:10.740 That link continues to an official Government of Canada page.

00:03:15.940 And I clicked on it.

00:03:18.500 It says, welcome to Advancing Environmental Equity, Environment and Climate Change Canada.

00:03:22.620 It is engaging with a broad range of voices from across the country to help inform policies and initiatives that could advance environmental equity.

00:03:32.360 Advancing environmental equity means no single group or community is at a disadvantage in dealing with hazardous environmental exposures, pollution, or national disasters, regardless of their social position.

00:03:43.920 It involves identifying inequities and providing those affected with the support needed to achieve a position of equity.

00:03:50.460 We invite you to visit regularly to learn more about our consultation and engagement activities, how you can get involved, and to have your say.

00:04:00.320 And then there's that register button.

00:04:03.020 And I clicked register.

00:04:05.400 And I clicked on set up a new account.

00:04:08.040 And I entered my info.

00:04:09.860 And it asked me to set up a password.

00:04:11.800 But I tried about five times.

00:04:13.600 And it wouldn't work.

00:04:14.720 It gave me a false error message that I didn't have enough characters in my password.

00:04:18.580 But I did.

00:04:20.460 And she wouldn't work.

00:04:22.660 Seriously, what a perfect illustration of this Trudeau government.

00:04:26.300 Weird ideological obsessions, but no ability to actually do anything in the real world.

00:04:32.160 I wonder how many millions of dollars they spent on that website and which liberal got the contract.

00:04:36.640 But here's what wasn't broken on the page.

00:04:39.680 Here's the first link.

00:04:40.780 Let's look at it for a bit on the enviroequity.ca page.

00:04:44.500 Advancing Environmental Justice.

00:04:46.460 I'll read a bit.

00:04:46.960 In December 2021, the mandate letter for the Minister of Environment and Climate Change included a commitment to introduce legislation to require the development of an environmental justice strategy.

00:04:58.120 In February 2022, the government supported the private members bill, C-226, an act respecting the development of a national strategy to assess, prevent, and address environmental racism and to advance environmental justice in parliament.

00:05:13.880 So, Scott, it's got nothing to do with clean air, clean soil, clean water.

00:05:17.900 It's about queering the environment, about radicalizing it, about genderizing it, about transgenderizing it, about turning it into the next Marxist battleground. 0.57

00:05:31.160 Here, I'll read more.

00:05:31.860 This bill includes the requirement to have a strategy to promote efforts across Canada to advance environmental justice and to assess, prevent, and address environmental racism.

00:05:43.820 What?

00:05:44.620 This includes a study looking at the links between race, socioeconomic status, and environmental risks.

00:05:50.660 The strategy will include these findings and measures to advance environmental justice, such as possible amendments to federal laws, policies, and programs.

00:05:58.240 It's like when Trudeau brought in gender analysis to new pipeline projects.

00:06:04.100 Seriously, remember that?

00:06:05.200 As a government body, looking at how every different decision can have an impact on women in a positive or a negative way.

00:06:14.140 Even, you know, even big infrastructure projects.

00:06:17.440 You might not say, oh, what does a gender lens have to do with building this new highway or this new pipeline or something? 1.00

00:06:23.020 Well, you know, there are gender impacts. 1.00

00:06:25.600 When you bring construction workers into a rural area, there are social impacts, because they're mostly male construction workers.

00:06:32.160 How are you adjusting and adapting to those?

00:06:35.140 That's what the gender lens in GBA plus budgeting is all about. 1.00

00:06:38.560 These are all things that we've been doing, not to be nice or to be better or to be moral,

00:06:45.500 but to be smart about getting the very best out of all of our citizens and making the very best out of our economy.

00:06:54.380 Basically, big construction projects like mines, they usually hire a lot of men, so they're obviously sexist and have to be stopped.

00:07:03.520 I wish I were kidding.

00:07:05.220 Now they're going to apply that to the environment.

00:07:08.600 Here, I'll read more.

00:07:09.280 Environmental justice and environmental racism are broad concepts that can be applied in various contexts.

00:07:16.320 While environmental racism and justice is a new area of work for the government of Canada,

00:07:20.560 grassroots organizations have significant knowledge and experience in advocating for communities and raising awareness on these issues.

00:07:27.220 The government of Canada aims to work with these organizations, affected communities, and those with lived experiences to inform the development of a national strategy.

00:07:34.820 So they're going to get little radical groups out there to find this kooky ideological BS.

00:07:40.740 And of course, they're all paid for by the government anyway.

00:07:42.820 So they'll get government grants.

00:07:43.940 Don't think for a second they don't.

00:07:45.320 This whole thing is made up.

00:07:47.560 So they can make it stand for anything.

00:07:50.500 Like I say, nothing to do with clean air, clean water, clean soil, all of which I like, by the way.

00:07:54.500 Everything to do with pitting us against each other based on race and gender, pure cultural Marxism.

00:08:00.360 I've just got to read this next part to you.

00:08:02.180 Frequently asked questions.

00:08:06.100 What is environmental justice?

00:08:08.100 That's a good question.

00:08:09.480 Here's their answer.

00:08:10.560 In Canada, there is no definition of environmental justice that is accepted by everyone.

00:08:17.200 Instead, environmental justice is considered a concept that can be applied in various contexts.

00:08:23.340 Environmental justice is a movement.

00:08:24.880 Oh, seeking to ensure fair and meaningful inclusion of affected peoples and equal sharing of benefits and costs when making decisions about the environment.

00:08:34.160 Equal sharing, eh?

00:08:35.380 That's a tip off.

00:08:37.280 When making these decisions, environmental justice aims to recognize and seek to address the existing inequalities faced by indigenous, racialized, or otherwise marginalized communities.

00:08:46.200 Do you know what that means?

00:08:50.220 Of course you don't.

00:08:51.280 And neither do they.

00:08:52.480 And you might be thinking, well, shouldn't the government know what it's talking about when it's going to do something like this?

00:08:57.480 And that's where you'd be wrong because you're thinking about this wrong.

00:09:00.520 The whole point is for environmental justice, environmental equity to be so vague that it literally can be used to do anything to anyone for any reason.

00:09:10.180 That's not a bug.

00:09:11.320 It's a feature.

00:09:12.080 So you could expropriate someone's business, theoretically.

00:09:14.580 You could block a mega project or let another one through.

00:09:18.860 It's magic, really.

00:09:20.880 There's not right or wrong.

00:09:22.640 It's not like math where two plus two equals four.

00:09:25.640 It's whatever the activists say.

00:09:27.560 They'll listen to the street teams.

00:09:29.140 You've heard of justice, of course.

00:09:31.400 We know what justice means.

00:09:33.540 The word is literally thousands of years old.

00:09:38.180 It was the name of Roman emperors, Justinian.

00:09:42.720 And it was about the law and justice.

00:09:44.940 Justinian wrote the Corpus Juris Civilis, which means the body of civil law.

00:09:49.500 He did that 1,500 years ago.

00:09:51.760 Here's a printing of it 500 years ago.

00:09:54.300 It's such an important building block of the West.

00:09:56.780 Everyone knows what the law is and its importance.

00:10:00.520 And everyone knows that one of the most important things about a law is you get judges and justice that's blind.

00:10:10.460 Justice judges on the merits, not on your last name or your race or your gender or your background.

00:10:16.240 The rule of law means everyone is the same before justice.

00:10:20.320 That's what that blindfold is about.

00:10:24.080 But if you add an adjective to justice, then immediately you've changed it, haven't you?

00:10:30.080 You've taken the blindfold off because you're going to favor certain things.

00:10:32.980 It's like the difference between a journalist and a government journalist, right?

00:10:36.660 That's the difference between justice and social justice, isn't it?

00:10:40.780 Social justice was just a battering ram to smash through real justice in the name of race and sex or other socialism.

00:10:47.660 Well, this is adding a new front, environmental justice.

00:10:51.120 Of course, they don't know what it means or if they know, they're not going to tell you because that would be too right-wing to have a fixed definition.

00:10:59.020 They'll leave it up to activists to determine just what they're going to do with this power. 0.94

00:11:03.040 But let me tell you, it all has to do with removing the blindfolds of justice.

00:11:07.720 They talk about environmental racism.

00:11:09.560 I'll read their note on that in a moment, but let me end the suspense.

00:11:14.420 You are surely an environmental racist.

00:11:17.520 That's what this law is about.

00:11:19.140 Okay, here's what they say officially.

00:11:22.260 What is environmental racism?

00:11:24.360 Like environmental justice, there is no definition of environmental racism accepted by everyone,

00:11:29.160 and it has not yet been defined by the government of Canada.

00:11:32.080 It is a broad concept that can be applied in various contexts.

00:11:35.660 Environmental racism is a form of systemic racism.

00:11:38.180 Oh, okay.

00:11:39.420 When it comes to the environment, environmental racism is when environmental decision-making policies and practices overly disadvantage some people due to their race.

00:11:48.900 This outcome can be intentional or unintentional.

00:11:52.200 Got it.

00:11:52.540 So you can be an unintentional environmental racist.

00:11:58.400 It's hidden.

00:12:00.020 You don't even know how environmentally racist you are.

00:12:03.820 The government will tell you, though.

00:12:05.100 Could you imagine weaponizing this idea?

00:12:10.080 I love this next part.

00:12:12.480 The Canadian Race Relations Foundation defines environmental racism as, quote,

00:12:17.180 Of course, the Canadian Race Relations Foundation is funded, and their leader was hand-picked.

00:12:47.160 By Justin Trudeau.

00:12:48.140 So it's like the left sock puppet, citing the left, the right sock puppet here.

00:12:52.540 They're both working for the same Trudeau.

00:12:55.580 Now, by the way, there's probably some truth to the fact that people who are poor live closer to, say, factories,

00:13:01.720 and people who are rich who probably live closer to, say, parks or golf courses.

00:13:06.280 Although modern zoning pretty much keeps factories away from housing.

00:13:12.160 We believe in a world where people can better themselves, though, and work their way up.

00:13:16.040 People can start in a lower-cost neighborhood that's typically poorer because it's lower cost.

00:13:21.120 And as they work up, they can move and buy more expensive houses.

00:13:24.460 Isn't that how it's supposed to work?

00:13:26.020 Or it should in a country where housing is affordable.

00:13:28.800 At least isn't the idea that you move up in life as you grow and learn and earn more?

00:13:35.380 But what do you think this all might mean in 2024 under Justin Trudeau?

00:13:39.660 Well, just brainstorming for a moment.

00:13:41.380 I see all the people living in these new tent cities that have popped up across Canada, 0.94

00:13:46.700 partly filled with Canadians who can no longer afford housing,

00:13:49.460 partly filled with foreign migrants with nowhere to go.

00:13:52.080 Well, welcome to the people you are obviously environmentally racist against.

00:13:58.360 So get ready to have them move into your kids' school gym.

00:14:02.440 That's happened in New York City.

00:14:04.580 Your neighborhood park that's already happening in Canada.

00:14:07.580 Your golf course, your own backyard, your own spare bedroom.

00:14:13.620 Think that's too crazy?

00:14:16.400 If you think so, I think you're missing the whole point of environmental Marxism.

00:14:21.060 It's not about fixing the environment.

00:14:24.800 It's about fixing you.

00:14:28.040 Stay with us for more.

00:14:40.660 Well, Martin Luther King said,

00:14:42.980 the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.

00:14:48.860 And I think what he meant by that is that justice will come eventually, even if it feels slow.

00:14:56.240 And it's been four years since Canada and the world was thrown into an authoritarian dystopia

00:15:02.400 of lockdowns and brutal public health orders that were really nothing to do with public health,

00:15:09.260 but a lot to do about orders.

00:15:11.420 People were jailed.

00:15:12.720 Families were broken up for various reasons.

00:15:15.800 You weren't allowed to gather for weddings or funerals.

00:15:18.720 You weren't allowed to fly or get on a train.

00:15:21.320 It was terrible.

00:15:22.320 We pit each other against each other, and so many people complied.

00:15:27.420 But I feel like the pendulum is finally swinging back.

00:15:30.500 I think it was an enormous breakthrough when the Federal Court of Canada a few weeks ago ruled

00:15:34.820 that the Emergencies Act was unlawful, illegal, unreasonable, unintelligible, and unconstitutional.

00:15:44.000 What a vindication for those who peacefully protested with the truckers.

00:15:49.440 And what a rebuke of the political sham hearings led by Justice Rouleau.

00:15:55.340 Remember this moment when our friend Ava Cipiuk cross-examined the prime minister?

00:16:00.440 Take a look.

00:16:01.140 Minister Blair, Public Safety Minister, Minister Mendicino, National Security Intelligence Advisor

00:16:09.400 Jody Thomas, and RCMP Commissioner Brenda Luckey, and today you, testified that the federal

00:16:15.060 government was committed to exhausting all alternatives to a resolution prior to making

00:16:19.700 a decision to invoke the extraordinary powers of the Emergencies Act.

00:16:24.380 Do you agree that that accurately describes your government's position?

00:16:27.900 That the invocation of the Emergencies Act was a measure of last resort, was not something

00:16:34.060 to be taken lightly.

00:16:35.160 Thank you.

00:16:35.780 And something to do when other options were not effective.

00:16:40.000 And you are aware that the OPP, along with others, developed an engagement proposal, and

00:16:46.220 you were advised of that proposal at the IRG meeting on February 12th, correct?

00:16:51.260 Um, it was a proposal, but we had, and it was presented to us, we had more questions about

00:16:59.520 how it would actually work.

00:17:01.720 There, it was not a complete proposal.

00:17:04.020 My last question, Mr. Prime Minister, when did you and your government start to become

00:17:08.580 so afraid of your own citizens?

00:17:12.520 That's a very unfair...

00:17:13.600 I am not, and we are not.

00:17:16.040 Those are my questions.

00:17:17.220 While the Prime Minister has more than egg on his face, he's now responsible for the

00:17:23.360 greatest violation of civil liberties in the generation in Canada.

00:17:27.860 So, too, in the province of Alberta, whose motto is strong and free, it was neither of

00:17:33.160 those things during the lockdown.

00:17:34.700 In fact, we later learned that the public health orders were ultra-virus, were unconstitutional,

00:17:40.140 were beyond the power of the government to issue.

00:17:42.140 So, what does it mean for people who were violated by illegal laws?

00:17:47.780 In the case of the Emergencies Act, what about the hundreds of families who illegally had their

00:17:53.080 bank accounts seized?

00:17:54.500 What action do they have against the government?

00:17:57.640 Or in the case of Alberta, what about everyone who labored under those illegal public health

00:18:03.600 orders?

00:18:04.200 Can there be some sort of class action to hold the government to account?

00:18:10.000 I'm asked this often, and I'm not an expert in class actions, but imagine my delight when

00:18:16.820 I saw a press release today.

00:18:19.360 Let me read it to you.

00:18:22.000 Rath & Company launches class action lawsuit against Alberta government for COVID-19 business

00:18:29.120 restrictions.

00:18:30.160 I'll just read a little bit.

00:18:32.120 Rath & Company has launched a class action lawsuit against the province of Alberta on behalf

00:18:35.980 of business owners in Alberta who faced operational restrictions due to now deemed illegal public

00:18:43.180 health orders.

00:18:43.860 This lawsuit follows the recent Ingram decision by the Calgary Court of King's Bench, which

00:18:49.060 declared all of Dr. Hinshaw's public health orders were ultra-virus.

00:18:54.060 It's Latin for not lawfully enacted beyond the power of the law.

00:19:00.300 Joining us now is the boss of Rath Law Firm, Jeff Rath, and his teammate, who you just saw

00:19:08.980 in action against the PM, our favorite, Ava Chipiuk.

00:19:13.120 I can't believe the dream team that has come together to get a little bit of justice in Alberta.

00:19:21.120 Welcome to both of you guys.

00:19:22.560 Well, thank you very much, Ezra.

00:19:24.660 It's a real pleasure to be here.

00:19:25.660 Thank you.

00:19:26.340 You know, Jeff, last time I saw you, you were speaking at Rebel News Live, which is our big

00:19:31.180 gathering that we do once a year in Calgary and once a year in Toronto.

00:19:34.980 Tell us the thinking behind a class action lawsuit.

00:19:39.320 I think most of our viewers have heard of that, but basically you invite people to join

00:19:44.700 the class, right?

00:19:45.780 So you don't have to, so people can join in and say, oh, I suffer too.

00:19:50.120 Tell me how it works in law.

00:19:52.560 Sure.

00:19:53.140 The way the law works in Alberta is that everybody is presumed to be a member of the

00:19:57.720 class unless they opt out of the class.

00:19:59.580 Oh, okay.

00:20:00.420 As they now stand in Alberta, up through certification, we're currently, our firm is currently proud

00:20:07.080 to represent every single business owner in the province of Alberta or individual whose

00:20:12.500 private interests were affected in an economic sense by all of Dina Hinshaw's completely ridiculous 1.00

00:20:19.600 lockdown orders, which aside from the fact that there was never any evidence that they did

00:20:25.760 anything to ameliorate the spread of that Chinese cold bug known as COVID-19, that not only did 0.99

00:20:32.100 those lockdowns do nothing to ameliorate it, but the lockdowns themselves have been determined

00:20:36.940 to be illegal.

00:20:37.940 So in a legal sense, all of the economic losses that flow from those illegal orders are actionable

00:20:44.340 and we will be seeking compensation from the government of Alberta on behalf of every

00:20:48.700 business owner that was illegally affected by the Jason Kenney Dina Hinshaw orders.

00:20:54.700 And as a result of, and just quickly, as a result of the Ingram decision and all of those orders

00:21:00.320 being declared illegal, that's why all the provincial offenses against the churches, you

00:21:04.880 know, against individual business owners like Chris Scott that were charged for violating

00:21:09.180 the Public Health Act have been withdrawn and thrown out of court because how can you prosecute

00:21:15.060 somebody for an illegal order?

00:21:16.440 So obviously we're very, as a firm, we're very proud of the fact that it was our arguments

00:21:21.280 on ultraviaries that resulted in freeing all of our fellow citizens from that tyranny.

00:21:25.840 And we're now going to be seeking redress on their behalf from an economic perspective.

00:21:29.280 You know, I'm so glad that's happening.

00:21:30.760 And I know Chris Scott a little bit.

00:21:32.480 He's the proprietor of the Whistle Stop Cafe in Mirror, Alberta.

00:21:37.560 By the way, amazing hamburgers.

00:21:39.540 I've been there myself.

00:21:41.000 But Chris was put through hell.

00:21:42.820 He was literally jailed.

00:21:44.620 He was put through years of illegal prosecution.

00:21:49.440 And at the end of the day, they just dropped him like a sack of potatoes and said, oh, sorry,

00:21:53.500 I guess that was.

00:21:54.360 But he wasn't brought back to even.

00:21:57.880 He was not compensated either for the disastrous prosecution of him or what they did to his

00:22:03.820 company.

00:22:04.200 They just sort of said, oh, we're not going to prosecute you anymore.

00:22:07.380 So I'm so glad that this is what I mean about the arc of justice.

00:22:12.260 It's, you know, it bends.

00:22:13.440 The arc of history bends towards justice.

00:22:15.600 But it takes a while.

00:22:17.180 Well, Ava, you have been in the thick of the freedom movement since early days.

00:22:22.060 You were there in Ottawa with the truckers.

00:22:24.280 You were there at the Public Order Inquiry Commission.

00:22:26.760 That was the Rouleau Commission.

00:22:29.240 That was sort of a, you know, I'm not going to call it a sham.

00:22:32.960 There were some useful things that were revealed.

00:22:34.620 But it certainly wasn't an independent court hearing like we had two weeks ago.

00:22:39.960 Tell me what your involvement will be.

00:22:42.920 Obviously, you're a lawyer, but I think you've got connections in the freedom community.

00:22:48.680 Does that help here at all?

00:22:50.840 Does it help to have people sign on?

00:22:53.300 Or like Jeff says, it's sort of everyone deemed to be part of the class action from the beginning.

00:22:59.800 Yeah, no, it's everyone's already in the class action.

00:23:02.740 So only those that want to opt out will be opting out and contacting us.

00:23:07.160 But I think what's helpful, given that I've been involved in the freedom movement, as you say, is that we're able to get the message out.

00:23:16.300 Even today, it's clearly getting a lot of attention, which is great.

00:23:19.920 So that people understand and start to appreciate that there's somebody that's trying to do something for all of the harms that have occurred over the last few years.

00:23:31.320 And maybe it'll entice people in other provinces to do the same as well.

00:23:35.360 So I hope that helps, at least.

00:23:37.720 And I'm very eager to be involved in this and happy to be working with Jeff on this.

00:23:42.820 Because you could really see how those mandates affected businesses.

00:23:48.320 And they were targeted and took on this massive financial burden for the benefit of public in general.

00:23:56.960 And nobody really thought too much about them.

00:23:59.960 And so we're bringing some attention to that now.

00:24:03.820 Obviously, Ezra, with regard to this lawsuit, we've been planning this since we first filed on behalf of Rebecca Ingram way back in 2020.

00:24:12.820 When they came down with the ridiculous lockdown orders, telling us how many friends that we could have in our homes for Christmas and Hanukkah.

00:24:19.220 If you recall those silly orders, you were allowed, you know, married couples were allowed to have two friends. 0.88

00:24:23.900 Single people could have two friends.

00:24:25.360 You know, all that silliness that came out of Hinshaw early in the pandemic.

00:24:29.600 We've been in court for Rebecca Ingram since the fall of 2020.

00:24:34.040 And, of course, the big victory for us in the Ingram case is we planned from the outset to argue the ultraviaries point and needed to win on the ultraviaries point, not the charter points.

00:24:44.220 Because in finding that the orders themselves were ultraviaries or outside of the scope of the Public Health Act, there's a section of the Public Health Act, believe it or not, that we say should be repealed.

00:24:55.580 That prevents lawsuits against public health officials and the Alberta government in the event that they pass lawful public health orders that cause massive damages and economic losses to people that are, you know, that are, in effect, being asked to, you know, are told, not last.

00:25:14.500 They're being told to lock up their businesses for the benefit of everybody else.

00:25:18.180 In effect, having their property expropriated without compensation is the way that the Public Health Act is structured.

00:25:24.940 But because the court of King's Bench ruled that the orders were ultraviaries of the Public Health Act are outside of the scope of the Public Health Act, that section 66.1 protection no longer applies.

00:25:37.040 And we have a clear statement of liability from the court of King's Bench, and we're going straight at the Alberta government for business losses, you know, of the people that suffered these horrendous illegal orders.

00:25:49.760 Let me just check to make sure I understand what you're saying.

00:25:53.000 The law in Alberta says if the government makes a public health order and it causes some harm, they're immune to prosecution.

00:26:01.380 But that only applies if it's a lawful order.

00:26:04.040 So if it's an unlawful order that they didn't have the legal power to do, they are subject to litigation.

00:26:10.820 Is that what you're saying?

00:26:12.560 Yeah, but I mean, the point's a little bit more subtle than that.

00:26:15.720 Because of the finding of ultraviaries, and that was a very important finding, on its face, the orders were not issued under the Public Health Act.

00:26:23.540 They were, you know, they're outside the scope of the Public Health Act, so they wouldn't attract any Public Health Act protection, which was a huge win for us.

00:26:31.500 And what we were, you know, I have to say, plotting from the beginning, because we wanted to be able to sue at the end of the day to recover damages on everybody's behalf, who was shut down under these lawful orders.

00:26:41.600 I mean, people committed suicide over these orders.

00:26:44.720 It's just, I mean, it's just heartbreaking.

00:26:46.300 And of course, when I was cross-examining Dina Hinshaw, and I asked her if she knew how many people committed suicide because of her evil public health orders, her answer was, oh, I wouldn't know the answer to that question.

00:26:58.480 You'll have to ask the chief medical examiner of the province of Alberta.

00:27:02.500 So then my next question was, okay, Dr. Hinshaw, did you ever ask the chief medical examiner of the province of Alberta how many people committed suicide as a result of your orders?

00:27:11.120 Her answer was shocking, it was, no, you know, so I mean, just this lack of care, lack of thought, lack of empathy, lack of feeling for the fact that you've devastated families, you've basically expropriated their life savings.

00:27:23.820 All these people that had to keep pouring their personal savings and retirement funds into keeping their businesses alive, while Dina Hinshaw, at a whim, you know, would come up with, it seemed like, a new stupid restriction every single day on our rights and liberties. 1.00

00:27:38.020 Yeah. Jeff, you're bringing back a lot of bad memories. I've tried in some ways to forget what life was like back then. I mean, we at Rebel News fought very hard. We had the Fight the Fines project where we tried to help people big and small fight against it.

00:27:53.880 That's where we met your client, Chris Scott. But I forgot about how atrocious it was. Hey, Abe, I got a question for you. Again, I'm a former lawyer, but I haven't practiced law in a while and I've never done any class actions.

00:28:07.420 I understand you guys were in court yesterday before a judge seeking certification of a class action. Am I right on that? And what does it mean for the class to be certified? And correct my terminology if I got it wrong. I'm just not that familiar with class action lawsuits.

00:28:24.820 Well, I'm getting to know them as well. So it's a learning experience for me. But it was a case management meeting yesterday. So it wasn't the certification hearing yet. That's going to come up likely in September.

00:28:40.800 So that's going to take a little bit of time. In the case management yesterday, it was really to find out whether or not or what the province's release is that the province made it known to us that they were going to be challenging the certification.

00:28:58.700 So one thing of note for yourself and your audience is generally certification.

00:29:04.920 That step, from my understanding, is that it's not the most difficult test. It's not whether or not the lawsuit is valid per se, but whether or not it makes sense for the court and the court system to put everyone together.

00:29:18.540 So there's not 100 or 1,000 or 10,000 lawsuits. It makes sense to put everyone together in the efficiency of the judicial system and all of that.

00:29:29.900 So the question that we're going to be posing to the court in September, unless the province, of course, changes its opinion on this, is whether or not it's going to be certified and all businesses can come together under this one lawsuit.

00:29:45.020 And I think that's an important point, Ezra, that I'd like to get your listeners to internalize.

00:29:51.240 We need to bring as much political pressure to bear as we can on the Alberta government.

00:29:55.500 It's not even clear from talking to the Alberta government lawyers whether Premier Smith is even aware of the fact that they're opposing certification in this matter.

00:30:03.800 I mean, needless to say, Danielle Smith is an MLA, has hundreds, if not thousands of constituents in her home riding whose businesses were destroyed as a result of these lockdown orders. 0.98

00:30:15.020 Needless to say, you know, the tens of thousands of people that all came together to elect Danielle Smith, the leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Alberta, would not expect her to be opposing the compensation of business owners whose lives and property were destroyed by illegal government orders.

00:30:35.820 So, you know, this Alberta government stance on certification might just be, you know, from our perspective, might just be the knee-jerk reaction of Alberta government lawyers to, you know, suits that are filed.

00:30:46.500 But I think everybody that's watching and listening to this program, you know, needs to be writing their MLAs, writing to Danielle Smith, and encouraging them to settle this case sooner rather than later, rather than delaying for years the compensation of all these businesses and Albertans whose lives were destroyed by orders that the Court of King's Bench has clearly found to be illegal.

00:31:08.920 Yeah, I think that's a great point.

00:31:38.900 I think that's a great point.

00:32:08.880 It would be very, I think there's a real chance that if Danielle Smith and her brain trust really think about this, that instead of fighting it like hell, they say, well, let's come up with a thoughtful settlement that actually ameliorates some of the damage that this government illegally did.

00:32:27.480 They said, hey, Abe, I've got a question for you.

00:32:30.740 We just talked about the Emergencies Act because, I mean, we've been talking about it for two weeks, really.

00:32:36.100 In that case, I don't know if there were hundreds of thousands of businesses that were hurt, but I know there were hundreds of bank accounts that were seized.

00:32:44.280 Have you guys thought at all, and look at me giving you work to do, have you guys thought at all about a class action for the Federal Emergencies Act?

00:32:53.920 It looks like the feds are going to appeal the ruling by Justice Mosley that said it was unconstitutional, but there you'd have a smaller class action, I think, probably just 300 people.

00:33:04.540 But I would think that is a very powerful class action.

00:33:09.120 Is that something that's on your mind, or are you keeping that rabbit in the hat for now?

00:33:14.480 It certainly has.

00:33:15.480 I'll let Adam speak to the question.

00:33:17.240 I'd say stay tuned for more.

00:33:19.480 But on the point of the appeal, I would bet that the feds are not going to appeal it.

00:33:25.420 It's such a good, well-written decision.

00:33:27.940 If they did, it would be more for political purposes, not for legal purposes.

00:33:32.860 They also have to consider if they do appeal, and then the Court of Appeal reinforces that decision.

00:33:39.820 In the case of the Ingram one we're talking about here, the province decided not to appeal it, which I think was the right step to do, not to continue with taxpayers' money on appealing these decisions that clearly were illegal.

00:33:55.060 So on that point, I wanted just to make that note.

00:34:00.600 But I think there's going to be a few lawsuits coming out of this.

00:34:04.000 There's a lot of buzz around that, so stay tuned for that.

00:34:06.800 Yeah, we wouldn't be giving away solicitor-client privilege secrets by telling you that our office is being inundated by emails from people who suffered business losses as a result of their bank accounts being seized and mistreatment by the authoritarian Trudeau Junta in Ottawa.

00:34:23.940 Yeah, and that was one of the things that Justice Mosley really focused on, is that the broad brush approach of seizing family – I mean, a lot of families have a joint bank account, mom and dad, and that same bank account is for groceries, is for medical needs, is for school, is for rent.

00:34:42.700 So you're tagging maybe dad who's at the protest, but you've punished mom and kids.

00:34:48.520 Like, holy cow, does that cry out for some compensation, especially given the harsh rebuke of the federal court.

00:34:55.280 So I hope and I look forward to it.

00:34:56.960 I'm sure there will be class action litigation emanating from that.

00:35:00.960 Well, I'm very excited to see this.

00:35:02.420 And I know both of you a little bit personally, and of course I know you from my reputation.

00:35:08.540 You're both freedom fighters and you're lawyers, and I wish there were more freedom-fighting lawyers.

00:35:14.280 I just want to give out your website one more time for folks who want to be in touch with you.

00:35:19.780 It's Wrath and Company, and Wrath is spelled R-A-T-H.

00:35:24.700 Jeff, last word to you.

00:35:26.340 You've had some success.

00:35:27.760 I mean, we've seen you argue in a bunch of cases.

00:35:30.520 I think you were a lawyer for the hotel quarantine case, if I remember correctly.

00:35:36.860 I think you were involved in that matter, the Ingram case and this.

00:35:41.180 What's the future for freedom law?

00:35:43.080 Some people have given up.

00:35:44.200 They say the courts are overtaken by woke judges.

00:35:48.240 The law is against us.

00:35:49.920 It's hopeless.

00:35:50.760 It's an uphill battle.

00:35:51.980 What would you say to people who are sort of black-pilled like that and are fatalistic? 1.00

00:35:56.180 Well, my view is we don't take cases to court unless we think there's a reasonable prospect of success.

00:36:02.860 So, you know, that's the first point.

00:36:04.360 The second point is with regard to this case, the Ingram-Scott class action case in particular,

00:36:12.680 everybody's got to remember that liability has already been determined in this case.

00:36:16.560 So we have, you know, Justice Romain of the Court of King's Bench, who was very skeptical throughout of all of the arguments that we were putting forward,

00:36:26.380 found herself bound to find that these orders were patently unlawful at the end of the day,

00:36:31.440 even though she would have found them to be constitutional had she been able to do that if the orders were patently illegal.

00:36:37.560 So we have a very strong finding of liability in our favor going forward.

00:36:43.200 And again, I would urge all of your viewers and all of your listeners to reach out to their MLAs and reach out to Danielle Smith.

00:36:51.080 She listens.

00:36:52.140 She probably watches the show.

00:36:53.720 And I think she needs to understand what a boon it would be for Alberta to settle this lawsuit 1.00

00:36:59.600 and settle it in a way that we could deduct the damages from any transfer payments leaving this province.

00:37:05.540 It would be a twofer for her. 0.51

00:37:07.420 It would resolve the issue of her needing to act strongly on the referendum on transfer payments,

00:37:13.280 where Albertans overwhelmingly voted to end transfer payments out of Alberta.

00:37:16.860 And it would allow her to, in effect, create her own Marshall Plan for the reinvigoration of the Alberta economy, 0.65

00:37:25.000 you know, by promptly, as quickly as possible, paying out the billions of dollars in damages that are owed to Alberta businesses

00:37:32.100 in what amounted to the largest expropriation of personal property in Alberta history

00:37:38.320 under the guise of these ridiculous Kenny Hinshaw orders.

00:37:42.480 You know, that's true.

00:37:43.640 I remember in college reading a book called Takings by Professor Epstein,

00:37:48.580 who talked about the different ways the government destroys and commandeers and colonizes private property.

00:37:56.300 It was a terrifying book.

00:37:57.380 I remember it 30 years later.

00:37:59.640 And that's really what the lockdowns were.

00:38:03.820 It was an expropriation of property.

00:38:05.720 One of the chief bundles of rights, property is a bundle of rights,

00:38:10.780 the ability to use your property, to have people enjoy your property.

00:38:15.280 All of that was, it was effectively a seizure of half the problems.

00:38:20.180 Go ahead, Jeff, you were going to say something.

00:38:21.740 No, what I was going to say, Daniel Smith needs to stand up firmly as the property rights premier of Alberta,

00:38:28.500 because we have far too much federal encroachment into property and civil rights in the province,

00:38:33.800 which are in the exclusive jurisdiction of the province under Section 9213 of the 1867 Constitution Act.

00:38:40.540 You know, we have Trudeau arbitrarily classifying huge classes of firearms, you know, as now being prohibited.

00:38:48.240 Their owners can continue to own them and lock them up in a safe,

00:38:51.300 but they're not allowed to target shoot with them on their own ranches anymore.

00:38:54.740 You know, we have Trudeau coming in and, you know, and the gibbering Givo telling us, you know, 0.65

00:39:00.200 that in 2035 we're not going to be allowed to buy gas-powered vehicles anymore,

00:39:05.700 which as we saw, and I said it was my own version of Alberta Schadenfreude,

00:39:09.260 which was laughing your ass off at a liberal standing next to their frozen Tesla at minus 42, right?

00:39:14.480 But, you know, we're being told in Alberta that Alberta businesses are going to have to learn to operate

00:39:18.880 with vehicles that only have 100-kilometer range in minus 42-degree weather,

00:39:23.520 because Trudeau and Givo have said so.

00:39:26.380 I love that line, gibbering Givo. I'm going to have to use that a bit myself.

00:39:29.780 Jeff, I think you need a show on Rebel News. You've got a lot of pepper in your pants.

00:39:34.640 Listen, I love your fighting spirit. I think you've got that Alberta style.

00:39:39.920 And I think if this lawsuit is going to work anywhere,

00:39:43.840 because of the Ingram decision that you referenced,

00:39:46.620 because of the premier and her libertarian ideology, 1.00

00:39:50.080 and because of the legal talent I'm looking at right now on my screen,

00:39:53.520 I think this has a real chance. It's a pleasure to catch up with you.

00:39:56.580 Thanks very much for making time.

00:39:57.840 I know that you've really just broken this big news today,

00:40:00.440 so it's great to have you on the show.

00:40:02.000 And hopefully we can check in with you from time to time.

00:40:04.280 I hear what you're saying is that this is not going to move at light speed,

00:40:07.540 but perhaps the politics of it will move faster than the legals here.

00:40:12.760 But I want to say, and I want to commend Justice Beesby,

00:40:17.920 the case management judge that we have on this case.

00:40:21.620 He is moving in at light.

00:40:23.120 We appeared not three weeks ago for an expedited case management date

00:40:28.960 so that we could get a schedule set for the hearing of the certification motion.

00:40:33.220 He met with us yesterday.

00:40:34.820 And for a judge to find an hour's worth of time in their calendars at this day and age,

00:40:39.420 when you're booking two or three years out sometimes for special applications of a day or more,

00:40:43.340 was fantastic.

00:40:44.840 And he's provided us a two-day hearing on the 25th and 26th of September on certification.

00:40:50.460 So as the courts go, this is very much on a fast track.

00:40:53.780 And we're very grateful to the Alberta Court of Kings bench

00:40:56.700 for recognizing the importance of this case

00:40:58.600 and working with all counsel involved in expediting this proceeding.

00:41:02.420 So thank you for having us on,

00:41:04.360 and thank you for your thoughtful questions today.

00:41:06.040 We're very grateful.

00:41:06.560 Well, it's great to see you, and of course, we're super fans of Ava.

00:41:09.940 And I'm sort of jealous of anyone who has a chance to cross-examine the prime minister.

00:41:14.780 I mean, that's a bucket list that very few people can check off their list.

00:41:18.680 Great to see you, Ava.

00:41:19.800 Thanks very much, Jeff.

00:41:21.020 And again, the law firm is Rath & Company, spelled R-A-T-H.

00:41:24.820 And they're talking about a class-action lawsuit

00:41:27.500 over the illegal public health orders in Alberta.

00:41:31.520 Stay with us.

00:41:32.120 More ahead.

00:41:32.560 Hey, welcome back.

00:41:45.780 Your Letters to Me, Gino's Movies, says,

00:41:48.940 Charlie Angus should try to live without fossil fuels for six months.

00:41:52.500 And let's see how far he's able to progress in northern Ontario.

00:41:55.700 Remove him from his office immediately.

00:41:57.280 He's a threat to common sense.

00:41:58.600 Well, you know, Bill Whittle had a video, he's got to be 10 years old now,

00:42:03.520 where he says, it's just a thought experiment.

00:42:07.180 He says, let's take 1% of our year, so three and a half days,

00:42:11.620 and send people out into the wild.

00:42:14.200 I guess what he really means is no industrial civilization,

00:42:19.000 no electricity, no cell phones, no TV.

00:42:21.880 Just three and a half days to remind people what a life we have,

00:42:28.880 courtesy of property and free market and capitalism.

00:42:33.120 I'm not doing him justice, but it was a wonderful thought experiment,

00:42:35.880 because if you ask people, well, where does food come from?

00:42:39.400 They say, the grocery store.

00:42:41.000 Where does electricity come from?

00:42:42.960 The plug in the wall.

00:42:44.380 A lot of people are so disconnected from actual building and doing and farming and factories

00:42:51.500 that they have no idea.

00:42:53.700 And, you know, it's why when the power goes out, everyone's lost.

00:42:57.100 And now they have to put it on their phone after it runs out of batteries

00:43:00.060 and actually have to human interact.

00:43:02.420 We're so disconnected from the actual means of production.

00:43:05.280 So many of us work in the services side of the world,

00:43:08.180 not the farming, mining, factory side of the world,

00:43:11.140 that we take it for granted.

00:43:12.200 And in fact, I think there's a snobbery and a condescension.

00:43:15.800 And I think nowhere is that more the case than in today's NDP.

00:43:19.420 I know a little bit about the history of the NDP.

00:43:21.720 Preston Manning would often talk about it.

00:43:23.580 Of course, it was called the CCF and other things before that.

00:43:26.180 It was basically farmers and factory workers who came together in a progressive movement.

00:43:32.600 It was socially, I would say, it's much more conservative,

00:43:35.700 but it was about the working class.

00:43:37.100 That's absolutely for sure.

00:43:38.280 I don't think the NDP has been about the working class for 20 years.

00:43:42.800 Now it's fancy Mr. Rolex, Mr. Bespoke Suit Jagmeet Singh.

00:43:48.080 And look at Charlie Angus, who sort of looks like a working class guy,

00:43:53.200 but he's actually calling for the banning of any promotional fossil fuels.

00:43:58.020 You cannot live in northern Ontario without fossil fuels.

00:44:01.880 You will die.

00:44:02.920 You will starve.

00:44:04.160 You will freeze.

00:44:05.220 But that's today's NDP.

00:44:08.620 Jay Cameron says, so does this mean the NDP hates Alberta and Saskatchewan?

00:44:12.420 The reason I ask is because a lot of us have the phrase,

00:44:14.920 I love Canadian oil and gas.

00:44:16.200 It's on both my trucks.

00:44:17.040 I'm proud of it.

00:44:18.000 Liquid dinosaur is still better than just using electricity.

00:44:20.920 Well, I think, of course, they do despise Alberta and Saskatchewan,

00:44:25.500 even though that's where the party was born.

00:44:28.680 The CCF, I think their founding meeting was actually in Calgary.

00:44:31.640 They really broke through in Saskatchewan.

00:44:34.840 That's where Tommy Douglas was from.

00:44:36.760 But today's NDP looks down its nose at farmers and miners and oil and gas.

00:44:42.580 They just do.

00:44:44.400 But my point is Bill Whittle's point.

00:44:46.080 I'd like to see Charlie Angus go without oil and gas and cars and planes for three and just three and a half days.

00:44:54.120 Just three and a half days.

00:44:55.120 Linda Goldby says, hello, Ezra.

00:44:57.760 I could not disagree with Lauren Gunter more.

00:45:01.640 You're correct in saying that wokeness is intended to weaken the military. 0.97

00:45:05.160 The same can be said about all our institutions, be it medical, educational, and even sports.

00:45:08.920 There was a reason Canadians were fired for refusing the jab. 0.82

00:45:11.920 It was meant to weed out the very best.

00:45:13.420 Just ask Dr. Trotzee.

00:45:15.120 You know, one of the reasons I love Lauren Gunter so much, besides the fact that we've been friends for 30 years,

00:45:19.580 is that he has a naturally sunny disposition, and he looks for the best in people, and he gives people the benefit of the doubt.

00:45:28.380 And I think he's just a good person that way.

00:45:31.320 I myself, for whatever reason, am more skeptical, and especially when it comes to this liberal government,

00:45:38.440 I look for malicious and nefarious aspects because I just think I've been disabused of any naivety long ago.

00:45:48.040 I'm not sure which one of us is right, but I enjoy talking with them as I always do.

00:45:53.100 Well, that's my show for today.

00:45:54.900 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night,

00:45:59.760 and keep fighting for freedom.

00:46:00.780 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - February 09, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau's climate czar proclaims his new government mantra： Environmental Equity

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