Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau's foreign fiascos and domestic disasters： An interview with Manny Montenegrino

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends, a feature conversation with our friend Manny Montanagrino.

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00:00:21.760 All right, here's today's podcast.

00:00:30.000 Tonight, a feature conversation with our friend Manny Montanagrino

00:00:41.340 about Justin Trudeau's horrible, no good, very bad week.

00:00:46.300 It's September 27th and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:49.040 You're ready for freedom!

00:00:52.140 Shame on you, you censorious bug! 0.98

00:01:00.000 What a week! 0.76

00:01:05.620 You know, Trudeau a week ago was battling the greatest democracy in the world

00:01:10.120 measured by population.

00:01:11.920 I'm talking about India, which is now just not just the largest democracy,

00:01:16.280 it's the largest country, full stop.

00:01:18.280 It has now exceeded China in population.

00:01:22.100 China is, in fact, slowly declining now.

00:01:25.440 And I think that India's prospects for the long term are very positive

00:01:29.820 because it has the rule of law and bureaucracy and the English language

00:01:34.480 and they have independent courts and property rights.

00:01:37.820 It is a flawed country, as every country is.

00:01:40.340 But in the long run, I would bet on the democracy

00:01:43.660 against the totalitarian authoritarian country.

00:01:47.100 Of course, India has to be strong

00:01:49.620 because it is the great regional counterweight to China.

00:01:53.760 This is on the minds of every strategic thinker

00:01:56.320 from Joe Biden to the United Kingdom,

00:01:58.900 which is why they are all baffled at the fight that Trudeau started to pick with India.

00:02:05.920 That was a scandal, but that scandal was completely replaced with the next scandal

00:02:13.480 of platforming and praising an actual SS Nazi officer.

00:02:20.480 Just incredible.

00:02:22.420 Trudeau scapegoated his speaker, the House, Anthony Rota, who resigned yesterday.

00:02:28.040 Just absolutely incredible.

00:02:30.120 Joining us now to talk about not just the domestic political ramifications,

00:02:35.200 but where this puts Canada in the world.

00:02:40.340 Joining us now for another great feature interview is our friend Emmanuel Montenegrino,

00:02:45.720 CEO of ThinkSharp.

00:02:47.360 Manning, Trudeau said that all Canadians were humiliated by this Nazi in Parliament.

00:02:57.460 There's some truth to it, but I didn't do anything wrong.

00:03:00.920 You didn't do anything wrong.

00:03:02.340 No.

00:03:02.720 It was the government that humiliated us.

00:03:05.500 I didn't feel like I did anything wrong.

00:03:07.720 He did it.

00:03:09.320 Yeah.

00:03:09.600 No, it's always when Trudeau makes a mistake.

00:03:12.640 Now, you didn't have to even Google this guy.

00:03:17.920 We knew that Russia was one of our allies against Nazi Germany.

00:03:24.200 So if someone, and this is in the Second World War, if someone was fighting Russia,

00:03:28.700 it was probably Nazi Germany.

00:03:31.360 So how it even, I mean, I don't care who it was.

00:03:34.780 I didn't have to Google him.

00:03:36.120 I knew from the outset, if you're fighting Russia, and Russia was one of our allies in

00:03:41.120 the Second World War, it's probably a Nazi. 0.80

00:03:44.960 And it proved to be so.

00:03:46.820 So it is, listen, Ezra, how many times has Trudeau done something absolutely atrocious and

00:03:55.480 blamed others?

00:03:56.260 And we're talking about positions that were never, always sacrosanct in Canada and never

00:04:05.540 part of the political.

00:04:08.260 So Attorney General of Canada, Jody Wilson-Raybould, never in the history of Canada has Attorney

00:04:15.840 General been thrown out because she was doing her job.

00:04:20.160 That was a person thrown.

00:04:22.580 I mean, I was appalled to know that the Attorney General of Canada that was upholding the law 0.98

00:04:28.260 for Canadians was kicked out to save Trudeau's butt. 0.96

00:04:33.400 Then you have Michael Wernick, the Privy Council, the chief of the Privy Council that represents 0.97

00:04:42.800 all bureaucracy that is supposed to be unbiased, admitting that he was biased in favor of Trudeau 0.99

00:04:49.240 and he went out in shame to save Trudeau's butt. 0.97

00:04:54.420 Now we have the Speaker of the House, again, supposed to be an unbiased person, sacrificed. 0.95

00:05:01.940 How many Canadian, prominent Canadians, if I were to do a list of the number of Canadians 0.83

00:05:07.920 who were thrown under the bus to save Trudeau's mistakes, ineptitude, and frankly, disgusting

00:05:15.460 acts, the We Charity thrown under the bus, his best friend, Gerald Butts thrown under the

00:05:20.920 bus.

00:05:21.380 I mean, every Canadian, Canada was thrown under the bus when we were told we were a genocidal

00:05:27.940 country.

00:05:28.800 I mean, how many people are going to be thrown under the bus because all that just so Trudeau

00:05:34.980 can maintain his ineptitude?

00:05:37.340 Yeah.

00:05:37.520 You know, I learned a new word in the last year.

00:05:42.660 It's actually sort of a made-up acronym.

00:05:45.360 I'd never heard it before, but I think about a fair bit now that I have it.

00:05:49.340 You know, sometimes something's going on and you don't know how to express it because you've

00:05:53.400 never heard the word and you just get a word and now suddenly you can see it where you hadn't

00:05:56.880 seen it before.

00:05:57.620 That word, it's a made-up word.

00:05:59.940 It's DARVO, D-A-R-V-O. 0.95

00:06:03.780 And it's an acronym, if I remember it correctly, it's deny, accuse, and reverse victim and offender.

00:06:11.400 And it's a psychological manipulation trick.

00:06:14.380 If someone is doing something awful to you and you challenge them on it, they deny it.

00:06:20.240 They accuse you of doing it and they flip the victim and offender, DARVO.

00:06:26.420 And it's in psychologically abusive personal relationships.

00:06:29.960 And I think that Trudeau is the master of DARVO manipulation.

00:06:35.920 Another word for it might be gaslighting.

00:06:38.800 So Justin Trudeau is caught, for example, being credibly accused of sexually assaulting

00:06:44.760 Rose Knight, the woman in Creston, B.C.

00:06:47.880 So he denies it.

00:06:49.820 He says she experienced it differently.

00:06:52.060 Okay.

00:06:52.240 He didn't quite blame her.

00:06:53.940 But Blackface, he, and in this case, I guess a better example would be he's always apologizing 0.98

00:07:02.200 for what other people did, but never for what he did.

00:07:06.500 So he'll apologize for what someone in the past did, which is not really an apology.

00:07:10.600 It's a way of raising himself up and showing that he's morally superior.

00:07:14.160 But I note, Manny, that he did not apologize.

00:07:20.160 He didn't say the word, I apologize or I'm sorry, at all during this whole Nazi thing. 0.87

00:07:26.040 Sorry, over to you.

00:07:27.300 Yeah.

00:07:27.700 And I understand he met with this Nazi.

00:07:34.020 He's met, like, it's amazing.

00:07:37.220 Trudeau has met with Joshua Boyle.

00:07:39.440 Remember him?

00:07:40.480 Yeah.

00:07:40.840 In his prime minister's office.

00:07:42.420 This is a Taliban guy that was charged with assault.

00:07:47.080 I mean, Trudeau likes that kind of stuff.

00:07:51.040 I mean, even Omar Khadr fought very hard for his charter rights.

00:07:58.400 It seems that if you're on that side of the spectrum, Trudeau has time for you.

00:08:04.780 But if you're a good old truck driver that simply brought food to us and we're called heroes,

00:08:10.340 he has no time for that.

00:08:12.420 So it is, I think it goes, like, if you, I don't know if there's an acronym for this,

00:08:18.800 but if you take the most perverse factual situation and show tolerance to that most perverse factual situation,

00:08:28.220 you are a better person.

00:08:29.760 So if you're, and we're getting there with this grooming, what's happening with children.

00:08:35.080 If you're, if you're tolerant of these people, then you are a better person.

00:08:40.720 And that's what it's all about.

00:08:42.220 It isn't about the issues at hand.

00:08:45.300 It's I'm a better person.

00:08:46.760 And then it comes and flies in your face.

00:08:49.360 And that's what happened in the House of Commons.

00:08:52.480 It's a travesty of what happened.

00:08:55.220 I mean, I can't believe in, you know, Canada has fallen.

00:08:59.580 Ezra, every time we meet, I think Canada is at its low.

00:09:03.740 And it's lower each time.

00:09:05.640 I cannot believe what's happened to Canada.

00:09:09.080 We are a laughingstock.

00:09:10.360 Russia is saying, see, we told you, we told you they're harboring Nazis.

00:09:15.220 They're praising Nazis. 0.81

00:09:17.020 We got to stay strong.

00:09:18.340 He has, you know, the $9.5 billion that Canada has spent to help Ukraine.

00:09:24.020 That was all lost. 1.00

00:09:25.800 And all that goodwill went to Russia with this stupid act. 1.00

00:09:30.180 We lost, we blew $9.5 billion. 1.00

00:09:33.140 I think the world now sees it.

00:09:35.520 What are we doing?

00:09:36.480 Ukraine, this move that Trudeau has done,

00:09:39.560 or failed to do, has set back Ukraine.

00:09:44.160 I think historians will write,

00:09:46.760 this was the turning point of the support for Ukraine.

00:09:51.420 I mean, there have been neo-Nazi militias in Ukraine.

00:09:56.200 The Azov Battalion is the name of one of them.

00:09:59.240 And Zelensky and his defenders say that's not,

00:10:03.880 most people, that's marginal.

00:10:05.800 They're not as bad as you think.

00:10:07.080 Like, they've really downplayed it.

00:10:09.520 And by the way, I don't believe that most Ukrainians are fascists.

00:10:12.900 I simply don't believe it.

00:10:14.240 But this was, quote, proof.

00:10:17.060 I mean, this was a propaganda coup for the Kremlin who can say,

00:10:21.940 look, we always said they were Nazis and there were Nazis.

00:10:25.620 And not just new fascists, but a 98-year-old man who actually fought under Hitler.

00:10:35.880 Like, you couldn't have made such a thing up.

00:10:39.480 They couldn't have dreamed it up over there in the Kremlin

00:10:42.140 that they were handed this gift from Trudeau.

00:10:44.840 You're right.

00:10:45.260 He did a great disservice to his purported ally, Vladimir Zelensky.

00:10:52.280 Yeah.

00:10:52.580 And Poland, if Poland has now distanced itself from Ukraine,

00:10:57.340 has basically asked for a prosecution of this man.

00:11:03.040 I mean, so Poland is now totally offside with Ukraine, are not going to help.

00:11:09.320 This is the beginning of the end of the Ukrainian war.

00:11:12.420 It is, and I think a lot of people, because Trudeau loves the grandstand.

00:11:18.880 Trudeau loves, now, Ezra, we have to be very careful with history.

00:11:24.040 If somebody makes a mistake once, we go, oh, a mistake.

00:11:27.600 But remember, Trudeau did this with Saudi Arabia,

00:11:31.780 with the journalist that was in jail, and his name escapes me.

00:11:37.260 And Trudeau wanted to show the world that he was the charter rights leader.

00:11:43.020 And Saudi Arabia said, cut off all ties, cut off everything.

00:11:47.160 And the world basically sided with Saudi Arabia.

00:11:50.180 We were alone.

00:11:51.360 And now we're alone again.

00:11:53.220 And now with India, we're alone again. 1.00

00:11:55.820 I mean, we, Trudeau has, because he wants to preach.

00:12:01.680 Ezra, I'm going to make it very simple for you.

00:12:03.980 If you have fundamental values, you don't fall into these situations.

00:12:09.920 If you are a preener, a virtue signer, and just want to look good at the moment,

00:12:14.580 well, get me some old Ukrainian guy, and we say we fought in the war, and I look good.

00:12:19.600 No, if you have fundamental values, you say, hey, hey, hey, let's check this out.

00:12:24.600 Like, because, but Trudeau, everything is a show.

00:12:28.960 Everything is optics.

00:12:30.560 Everything is a sentiment.

00:12:31.780 Everything is, let me jet around the world so I can tell everybody about global warming.

00:12:37.480 It's all optics.

00:12:39.300 And if you don't have a fundamental base, everything ultimately collapses.

00:12:44.160 And that's what's happening with Canada.

00:12:45.720 We have no fundamental base.

00:12:48.000 We have no fundamental ideology.

00:12:50.160 We're rudderless going through the ocean, and we don't know where we're landing, and we have nothing.

00:12:54.840 And it's a terrible situation, because Canada was a principled, strong nation with lots of core values that saw us through, from one prime minister to another, whether he be liberal or conservative, the same core values.

00:13:09.500 Freedom of speech got us through.

00:13:11.680 Every prime minister understood that.

00:13:13.620 Every prime minister understood the rule of all, everything.

00:13:17.380 He has made Canada rudderless.

00:13:19.940 Yeah.

00:13:20.320 You know, I was thinking, other than Ukraine and Cuba, are there any countries with whom Canada has a stronger relationship now than before Trudeau took over from Harper?

00:13:30.520 And I can't think of one.

00:13:32.120 I think, for example, Germany, which said, look, we need help to get off this Russian natural gas.

00:13:37.980 That's the real Russian weapon is they sell a third of the energy. 0.80

00:13:43.560 And Trudeau said, no, there's no business case for selling our liquefied natural gas.

00:13:49.320 Really?

00:13:49.820 The whole world.

00:13:50.840 I mean, they signed a huge deal with Qatar.

00:13:52.980 I think of every—Georgia Maloney, the new prime minister from Italy.

00:13:58.060 Trudeau has a meeting with her and thinks he'll lecture her and shame her in public in their first meeting.

00:14:05.380 And meeting—I mean, leader after leader, he's so petty.

00:14:08.960 I remember when Jair Bolsonaro, the former president of Brazil, was elected.

00:14:14.480 Trudeau wouldn't even congratulate him because he's too right-wing.

00:14:17.900 He's so petty.

00:14:19.520 And by the way, most countries ignore Canada now because we're not pulling our fair share in NATO.

00:14:25.680 Trudeau has nothing thoughtful to say.

00:14:27.880 I don't know if you—remember this clip from the G20?

00:14:29.920 He was asked, what was your contribution to the G20?

00:14:33.060 And he said, well, here, take a look.

00:14:35.180 We'll show you the clip.

00:14:36.140 Hi.

00:14:36.540 What did Canada contribute to the UK?

00:14:38.880 As always, Canada is a strong voice for inclusion of gender language, inclusion of Indigenous reflections.

00:14:50.540 But all throughout, we made sure that countries around the world are focused on growing the economy in inclusive ways.

00:14:58.300 That's Canada these days.

00:15:00.180 So if you're a world leader and want to know that we're using gendered language, Canada's got you covered. 0.99

00:15:06.180 But if you want to be serious about energy or military or economy, just skip Trudeau.

00:15:12.660 He's not really interested in it either.

00:15:14.900 What an embarrassment.

00:15:15.720 Yeah.

00:15:16.760 And you can say that about the United States of America.

00:15:19.760 The United States of America is not taking Canada seriously.

00:15:22.640 The media is not exposing this.

00:15:25.680 But there is a very weak relation.

00:15:27.720 Biden is ignoring Trudeau.

00:15:29.860 And rightly so.

00:15:31.060 And so is the American administration.

00:15:32.800 So if you look at it, and you're absolutely right, Ezra, and I'm going to tell you something, Ukraine, like anyone that gets close to Trudeau is, finds himself in deep, deep trouble.

00:15:46.000 Ezra, no one takes Justin Trudeau seriously.

00:15:50.100 No country does.

00:15:51.620 You know, Stephen Harper, I think, got Canada punching above our weight in foreign affairs.

00:15:57.640 I think even Barack Obama, who was so opposite to Harper in many ways, he respected Harper enough that he actually didn't kill the Keystone XL pipeline until after Trudeau was elected.

00:16:11.860 I don't know if you remember that.

00:16:13.080 I mean, Obama was against that pipeline and he was contrary to Harper, but he respected Harper and their working relationship enough not to insult him by killing it when he was PM.

00:16:23.880 And I think that Joe Biden walks all over Canada and Obama walked all over Canada.

00:16:30.400 And Harper, every country in the world, at least knew where Canada stood.

00:16:37.000 And he, by the way, took on Putin in his own way, too.

00:16:40.320 Remember when he met him at a meeting and he said, I'll shake your hand, but don't invade Ukraine or something.

00:16:45.840 He wasn't childish about it.

00:16:47.460 He wasn't.

00:16:48.240 I don't know.

00:16:48.860 I think Harper carried himself with a dignity that made Canada look bigger.

00:16:55.160 And it didn't make us look like, hey, I got fancy socks on.

00:16:58.680 The socks thing is a little old.

00:17:01.180 Well, actually, Ezra, it also has to do with the fact that Harper wanted Canada to be a petro superpower.

00:17:09.460 Right.

00:17:09.560 You know, right?

00:17:10.880 So now think about this, Ezra.

00:17:13.040 We go, look at Saudi Arabia.

00:17:14.980 It's got 30 million people and basically it throws its weight around the world.

00:17:20.960 Why?

00:17:21.540 Because it has a huge oil production and the world understands it and it walks around with swagger.

00:17:30.520 Now, what swagger does Canada have? 1.00

00:17:33.080 We have lots of oil, but Trudeau says that oil is never going to leave the ground.

00:17:37.160 So the only swagger that Canada has is its rule of law, its charter of rights.

00:17:42.980 And Trudeau trampled on them two or three times with the unvaccinated, by stripping away their rights,

00:17:50.840 by seizing bank accounts of people who donate $20, and by using the War Measures Act against,

00:17:57.540 which is now called the Emergency Act, against peaceful protesters.

00:18:01.500 So we can't even swag around the world that we've got a wonderful rule of law and charter of rights to protect you.

00:18:09.180 We admitted that we're a genocidal country.

00:18:12.200 So we have nothing to offer the world.

00:18:16.700 We have no oil reserves to show economic power.

00:18:19.900 We have no credentials with respect to our charter of rights and how we treat people.

00:18:25.560 We are a genocidal.

00:18:26.760 I mean, China's not a genocidal country and they're killing Uyghurs all the time. 1.00

00:18:31.220 But we are, we're the only self-admitted genocidal country.

00:18:35.160 And now we appraise a Nazi. 0.84

00:18:37.320 We have no economic moral weight around the world.

00:18:42.320 Period.

00:18:42.800 Isn't that interesting?

00:18:43.920 Now, we've been talking about foreign affairs, but I want to back up for a second because Trudeau had another problem on his hands between India and Ukraine and this Nazi they dug up. 0.67

00:18:56.780 And that is, about a week ago, they called it the Million Person March.

00:19:03.120 I don't know if there was quite a million, but boy, there were tens, maybe hundreds of thousands all across the country.

00:19:08.860 A lot in Ottawa, a lot in Toronto.

00:19:12.400 We had 14 journalists in seven different cities covering these folks, and it was about parents and their kids worried about their children of tender years being taught radical gender ideology, being taught they can change their pronouns, change from boys to girls and girls to boys.

00:19:32.320 And you can be tolerant of different sexual orientations for grown adults making their own decisions, but the focus on young kids, I think, is what really prompted parents to become protesters for the first time in their life.

00:19:48.880 And the organizer of these massive protests was actually a Muslim man.

00:19:54.040 And I think we saw members of the Muslim community and other immigrant communities who were generally a little bit shy about joining protests.

00:20:02.540 It was a very multiracial, multicultural protest.

00:20:06.100 And I think the iconic image for me was a Muslim woman wearing a hijab, holding a sign over her head, going from memory, it said something like, don't trust anyone who says to keep a secret from your parents.

00:20:17.600 And we used to teach that to kids, don't take candy from a stranger, don't keep secrets from your parents.

00:20:24.220 And now the schools are saying that.

00:20:25.680 Here's my point, Manny.

00:20:27.460 Justin Trudeau put out a tweet condemning, I'd say there was at least 100,000 people across the country, maybe more.

00:20:35.880 And many of them were ethnic minorities who traditionally are liberal.

00:20:39.280 He called them transphobic, homophobic, hateful.

00:20:44.360 And in a way, that's just as big a crisis as his Ukraine or his India stuff. 0.90

00:20:51.260 Yeah, no, he does this every time.

00:20:54.060 And I don't know why people are not calling him out on it.

00:20:57.400 If you have a million people, let's go back to the protest, the truckers' protest.

00:21:06.700 Because one Nazi flag, and there's some discussion of whether it was planted by a liberal or not, but let's forget it. 0.54

00:21:13.800 That one Nazi flag was enough for him, for Trudeau, to paint the brush that everyone was a Nazi, everyone was bad.

00:21:23.900 All these, these are good people trying to get some, and following good science, but he paints the brush.

00:21:31.180 And yes, with this million-a-person march, Ezra, in addition to what you said, what's more important than the teachings of kids is the inserting government between parent and child.

00:21:47.780 I think that was the biggest issue.

00:21:50.080 It was, you know, the teaching stuff, we'll get into that.

00:21:53.040 But please do not come between father and child or mother and child.

00:21:58.500 And that's what the Muslim community, the Christian community, and normal people say it's wrong.

00:22:04.100 But now because we say we don't want government between, we don't want our child to be taken away and hidden from us because they might say something to an advocate teacher and we lose custody of our child.

00:22:18.760 That's horrific.

00:22:19.900 And we're entitled to talk about that.

00:22:21.840 It's the same thing with respect to the vaccines.

00:22:25.920 You know, it was clearly proven that vaccines at the time when Trudeau trampled on truckers' rights did not stop infection.

00:22:33.920 So it's okay to say, wait a minute, I don't think these vaccines work.

00:22:38.660 And they were all labeled, you know, Nazis, anti-science.

00:22:43.460 And he does that.

00:22:44.560 He takes perhaps of the million march, there may have been one person or two persons or a few persons that were just evil and transphobic.

00:22:54.640 And that becomes all.

00:22:56.700 And he does that every time.

00:22:58.900 And it's just annoying because it ends proper discussion.

00:23:02.980 And if you don't have proper discussion, you don't have good ideas.

00:23:06.360 And if you don't have good ideas, you don't have good policies.

00:23:09.160 And if you don't have good policies, you don't have a good country.

00:23:11.640 Yeah.

00:23:11.920 And he does that.

00:23:12.760 Now, I noticed yesterday that a prominent Muslim affairs council put out a statement basically telling Trudeau to stop insulting their members who were worried about this sexual ideology.

00:23:25.600 And listen, it's just a tweet and it's just a statement.

00:23:28.800 And I put it to you that most Muslims don't follow their official political leadership any more than more Jews or Italians or Greeks do. 0.96

00:23:37.680 So I wouldn't overstate the importance of it other than Trudeau has had a lot of the Muslim vote locked up for a few elections.

00:23:47.720 It was sort of his counter approach to Stephen Harper really had the Jewish vote and the pro-Israel vote.

00:23:53.020 And I think Trudeau said, I can't beat Trudeau.

00:23:55.600 I mean, Trudeau really thinks about ethnicity and voting.

00:23:58.540 I think that's why we got in the pickle with India and the Sikh extremist issue.

00:24:03.120 I think it's why Trudeau cozied up to this Yaroslav hunker because there's a – he thought, well, there's domestic politics at play.

00:24:12.180 And I think Trudeau really emphasized the Muslim community and it was very successful for him.

00:24:17.100 And now he's calling them homophobic and transphobic.

00:24:21.320 And I think for the first time we're seeing a pushback.

00:24:23.980 I think Trudeau is in trouble at home and abroad.

00:24:27.240 Manny, I remember when Trudeau would get in a pickle and he would fly down to New York to give a speech to the UN or he would fly off to some meeting and he would get all the love.

00:24:37.320 He would sprinkle foreign aid around and everyone would love him and he would be away from those pesky reporters and the troubles of home.

00:24:43.060 Now, whether it's at home and the trans issue or abroad and he's stunk up the joint on foreign affairs or this latest thing, I think Trudeau is actually a bit miserable.

00:24:59.000 I don't think he's having fun anymore.

00:25:01.000 He has no place to go.

00:25:03.960 He has no place to go.

00:25:06.280 I mean, in Canada – the media doesn't show this, but I see it on the internet – when he goes to a meeting, there are hundreds of people yelling terrible things at the prime minister.

00:25:19.140 And every event he goes to, he sees that.

00:25:23.480 When he goes abroad now, the last G20 meeting, he was pariah.

00:25:28.000 He met – the media didn't report.

00:25:30.320 He met with no one.

00:25:31.940 He met with no – I mean, I saw the few people that he met with.

00:25:36.060 I couldn't even name you the countries.

00:25:37.920 So he is a bit of a pariah.

00:25:39.820 People have understood – Ezra, with India, which is a huge thing, you did make a good point that the world is moving away from China to India.

00:25:50.460 India is going to be perhaps – I'll call it the savior of what could be if China becomes a world leader. 0.75

00:25:59.020 India is the great counterbalance to that. 1.00

00:26:02.400 We need India on our side. 0.98

00:26:04.600 And Trudeau, for his own political gain, decides to throw India under the bus for some obscure little issue.

00:26:12.880 Now, Ezra, India has the common law, and Canada has common law.

00:26:18.440 It dates back to 1215 Magna Carta.

00:26:21.360 Very simple.

00:26:22.380 And Trudeau doesn't understand – doesn't understand what it is to be a Canadian or be a rights advocate.

00:26:30.080 We saw it with the vaccines and so on.

00:26:32.320 We saw it with the emergency act.

00:26:33.300 But now he's doing it to India.

00:26:36.060 Ezra, you know this, and most lawyers know this, that there are two principles, many principles that stem back to 1215 Magna Carta.

00:26:44.580 And one of them is that the accuser has a right to see the case, and the accuser is entitled to a speedy trial.

00:26:51.860 And the reason why we have those protections, if someone is falsely accused of something,

00:26:57.900 they don't want to be the community being preyed upon and pointed and finger-pointed.

00:27:02.500 They want to clear their name as soon as possible.

00:27:04.260 Habeas corpus is what you're talking about.

00:27:05.880 That's the Latin word.

00:27:07.000 Show me the body.

00:27:07.800 Do you have the body?

00:27:09.020 Show me the proof.

00:27:10.000 That's what that means in Latin.

00:27:11.520 Right.

00:27:11.920 So here now he sends, he gives an allegation that we've never seen in history, unprecedented, prime ministering something in the House of Commons and blames India for a murder.

00:27:23.900 And then he says the next day, I don't want to talk about it.

00:27:27.080 You can't, you cannot, if you understand natural justice, it goes back to 1215, India has it, we have it, UK has it, America has it, is that if you lay an allegation against someone, you have a duty to lay out the whole case.

00:27:44.020 And you have a duty for a speedy trial because you can't leave these people hanging.

00:27:49.060 He's leaving a whole nation of 1.5 billion people hanging.

00:27:53.120 He makes this terrible allegation, then walks away and says, I'm done.

00:27:56.860 I don't want to tell you about it.

00:27:58.280 They're entitled to it.

00:27:59.640 India's entitled to every bit of information.

00:28:02.020 We're entitled to it.

00:28:02.940 We need to know right away because we need to clear this.

00:28:05.620 You know, I remember when Trudeau came back from India and he, it was very poorly, everything was very bad about it.

00:28:13.760 There were no success, but he came back to Canada and he had sort of a group of meetings with former politicians, Tony Blair of the UK, Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand, Santa Maran of Finland.

00:28:30.020 I think, I'm trying to remember the names of some of the others, most of them had been run out of town from their own countries.

00:28:37.860 Jacinda Ardern left in a shambles.

00:28:41.020 Her party is about to be nuked in New Zealand.

00:28:44.280 Tony Blair, you know, I think he's very poorly regarded in his own country.

00:28:50.240 Yeah.

00:28:51.220 I think he had that meeting because those are the only people willing to hang out with him.

00:28:56.580 And maybe he's thinking, well, I might be an ex-prime minister one day, too, and I need a gig.

00:29:02.900 I don't know.

00:29:03.360 It felt sort of sad that he couldn't get an important meeting at the real country meeting, but he could meet with all these ex-leaders, many of whom are in disgrace.

00:29:14.840 I felt a little bit sad.

00:29:16.540 Where is he going to go, Manny?

00:29:18.420 Do you think he'll ever retire?

00:29:20.080 Do you think he'll ever resign?

00:29:21.120 His dad did.

00:29:22.280 He went for a walk in the snow and he resigned.

00:29:25.100 Do you think Justin Trudeau has that kind of discipline or self-control or...

00:29:31.840 No, absolutely not.

00:29:33.140 Everything's about Justin Trudeau. 0.99

00:29:34.800 He's a narcissist. 1.00

00:29:36.060 He's a sociopath. 1.00

00:29:37.540 Everything's about him. 0.97

00:29:38.900 Ezra, let me throw something out here.

00:29:40.720 When you say he needs a gig or something to do, I'm concerned that of the $9.5 billion that is kind of washed through a pretty corrupt country.

00:29:53.680 We've already seen in the United States that they removed some Ukrainian leaders because there's a lot of financial corruption over their money.

00:30:01.540 Why is it we're not talking about, is that happening to Canada?

00:30:06.440 And here, is any of that $9.5 billion fining it to Canadian politicians and particularly Justin Trudeau?

00:30:15.300 Can we ask that question?

00:30:16.920 And the reason why I ask that, Ezra, I'm fact-based and if it's there in history, it might repeat itself.

00:30:24.160 That's where I go.

00:30:25.080 When Trudeau was a nobody, a nobody MP and nobody even cared about him, he was a public speaker.

00:30:32.600 Do you remember that?

00:30:33.560 Yes, I do.

00:30:34.040 Right, and he went and spoke at high schools and during, I'm the only one that tweeted on this and looked at this, but when he went to these high schools, and he was the youth shadow minister.

00:30:49.620 When he went to those high schools, he got paid for them and they said, well, that's all right.

00:30:53.700 It was absolutely money laundering.

00:30:56.560 His speeches are not worth 30 grand.

00:30:58.580 It's teachers, unions, and all sorts of people were putting down chips.

00:31:02.280 It's like when Hillary Clinton bills three quarters of a million dollars for a speech. 1.00

00:31:06.460 You already know what she's going to say.

00:31:08.800 You're just handing her money.

00:31:11.040 But it was worse, Ezra.

00:31:12.900 Here's one thing that nobody looked at, and that is he expensed his travel and to his MP budget.

00:31:23.060 He double-billed.

00:31:24.300 He double-billed.

00:31:24.720 Right.

00:31:25.200 And when Senator, why am I, his name is scamping me, Duffy was in trouble with his expenses, he then volunteered to pay it back because he knew that he could be on the hook.

00:31:40.160 So here's a kid, a brand new MP that basically double-billed, knew what he was doing, billing the, making money as a speaker when that's what MP.

00:31:53.060 He should be doing, but also billing the expenses twice.

00:31:56.300 Then he becomes prime minister.

00:31:58.260 He took care of Gerald Butts' expense account of $110,000, and he paid that back.

00:32:04.840 Right.

00:32:05.060 And then he found guilty of conflict because he took, what, maybe a $200,000 vacation free, and he got found to that.

00:32:15.200 So there's three instances.

00:32:17.440 And then what did he do when COVID hit?

00:32:20.940 What was the first thing that he did when COVID hit this great pandemic?

00:32:25.760 He got into a We Charity basic fraud.

00:32:29.980 That was his first thing.

00:32:31.340 How do I get money to my family?

00:32:33.800 Give these guys a billion dollars.

00:32:35.500 So Ezra, any time something happens, he's looking to benefit himself.

00:32:41.460 And those are four provable instances where he's tried to financially benefit himself.

00:32:47.500 Are you telling me that I can't ask the question, is any of that $9.5 billion going to be a Biden type of money back to Trudeau?

00:32:56.560 Has it happened?

00:32:57.640 Is it there?

00:32:58.460 Where is it?

00:32:59.240 Why can't we ask?

00:33:00.080 And this guy has a propensity and has done it at least five times in the past.

00:33:06.160 Yeah.

00:33:06.400 I mean, China knew this about him very early, and so they managed to find ways to give money to the Trudeau Foundation.

00:33:13.680 Right.

00:33:14.780 And to his brother accepting a check.

00:33:17.260 The amount of money sloshing out of Canada in the name of Ukraine that is not being vetted is much larger, a multiple, a hundred times larger of what's going on with China.

00:33:32.180 And how much is flowing back to the big guy here in Canada?

00:33:34.900 We don't know.

00:33:35.820 And I don't think we're going to find out with the kind of docile journalists that make up most of the press gallery.

00:33:41.240 Yeah.

00:33:41.760 No one's even asking the question, is it possible?

00:33:44.860 And no one's even saying, I'm saying, given this guy's got a pattern, and we've now cited five different events, and to include the Trudeau Foundation and family, with the WE Charity.

00:33:55.800 You know, to me, the WE Charity was not about the charity.

00:33:59.420 It was about, I actually believe that this pandemic was a killer that was going to kill millions, if you believe the lies at the beginning.

00:34:09.780 And his first thought was, yeah, let's forget about vaccines.

00:34:13.840 How can I get some money from the $1 billion to my family?

00:34:16.860 You're so right.

00:34:18.020 Who does that?

00:34:19.200 Who thinks of that when possibly a million Canadians could be dying?

00:34:24.320 We were last to get the vaccines, and kind of we were fortunate in that way.

00:34:28.320 But, you know, so he was thinking, how do I profit?

00:34:33.240 Hey, everyone is talking about the pandemic.

00:34:35.820 Let's do this.

00:34:36.580 We charity, give a billion dollars to my family.

00:34:38.780 You know, that's where his mindset is.

00:34:40.800 If you don't think that's happening in Ukraine, well, okay.

00:34:44.920 Okay.

00:34:45.720 The facts don't point it.

00:34:48.180 Well, we need an Auditor General with teeth.

00:34:51.400 Hey, I got one last question for you.

00:34:53.320 I mean, it's been a bad week for Trudeau, and I would put it to you that it's been a bad year.

00:35:00.240 And I think that for a lot of people, the fever broke when the truckers stared down Trudeau, and he panicked, and he brought in martial law.

00:35:07.980 I think if you look at the polling numbers, he's been trending down ever since.

00:35:12.000 And I think the truckers also helped renovate and rejuvenate the Conservative Party of Canada by getting a new leader in there. 0.91

00:35:18.940 So the combination of Trudeau overplaying his hand and a new conservative leader, and I feel like we're on the right trend poll-wise.

00:35:26.400 But so many things can happen between now and election.

00:35:30.220 I got one last question for you.

00:35:31.900 Do you think Trudeau will indeed contest the next election, or do you think he will be shown the door perhaps by his own MPs?

00:35:43.220 What is it, resignation or election battle for Trudeau?

00:35:47.520 That's a great question.

00:35:50.220 With most other leaders, I mean, you look at what happened with Brian Mulroney.

00:35:55.440 He understood by the end that he was toxic.

00:36:00.240 And so off he went.

00:36:02.000 And Brian Mulroney is more of a pragmatist.

00:36:04.460 And I don't know.

00:36:05.860 This question is a hard question because Trudeau is not grounded in reality. 0.85

00:36:10.900 He is a narcissist. 1.00

00:36:12.860 He is a sociopath. 1.00

00:36:14.120 Look what he's done to women. 1.00

00:36:15.500 Look what he's done to everyone around him.

00:36:17.720 I think he only sees himself.

00:36:19.980 So that's a tough question.

00:36:22.100 And you know what?

00:36:23.140 If I were in Vegas, I wouldn't put any money on either side because I just don't.

00:36:27.680 I think he could be so narcissist that he wouldn't.

00:36:30.420 He doesn't see the pain of the common.

00:36:33.860 He doesn't see what Canadians are going through.

00:36:37.840 He really doesn't.

00:36:39.520 It's all artificial.

00:36:41.200 It's all about him.

00:36:42.520 Do I look good?

00:36:43.540 How do I look?

00:36:44.440 And I don't know if there's any strong people in the Liberal cabinet to put an end to this.

00:36:54.640 Certainly, when I saw Minister Gold, I mean, it broke my heart.

00:37:00.860 This is a woman who said that her parents were, or grandparents were survivors of the Holocaust.

00:37:07.160 I mean, how dare you be loyal to this man?

00:37:11.520 Like, maybe it's Italian in me, but boy, if I were to dishonor my family that way, I would walk out of that party and I said, I brought dishonor to the Jewish community. 0.92

00:37:21.780 I brought dishonor to my family.

00:37:23.280 I mean, my family didn't go through the hell that the Jews did in the Holocaust.

00:37:27.660 And to dishonor and to be loyal to Trudeau and be part of this, I don't know how that happens.

00:37:33.120 But it does.

00:37:33.980 So I don't think there's any strength in the Liberal Party to say, OK, bud, buzz off.

00:37:38.580 You've had your fun.

00:37:39.760 Move on.

00:37:41.200 By the way, that happens in the Conservative Party a lot.

00:37:45.920 So we say, buzz off, move on.

00:37:47.660 We know what it is to be principled.

00:37:50.700 But again, when I looked at Minister Gold, my heart broke for her because how dare you? 0.98

00:37:57.260 How dare you do this to your grandfather, your grandmother?

00:38:00.300 How dare you do it to your family?

00:38:02.680 But there's no principles.

00:38:05.480 This is why everything falls apart with the Liberal Party now.

00:38:09.540 There's no foundational values.

00:38:11.800 It's all forgazi.

00:38:13.840 You know, whatever we believe, it's all virtue signaling.

00:38:16.940 It's all sentiment.

00:38:18.540 So it's hard to say.

00:38:20.040 I mean, I don't I don't know.

00:38:22.520 I don't I this is the one that I can't I can't I can't come to an opinion on.

00:38:28.900 I wonder if Mark Carney, who's sort of hovering around, is still interested in the prize of the Liberal leadership.

00:38:36.060 I mean, that's the other thing.

00:38:36.860 You can't beat someone with no one.

00:38:38.360 If you got rid of Trudeau, who's there?

00:38:40.620 I mean, I think Chrystia Freeland is so unlikable. 1.00

00:38:44.200 She makes Hillary Clinton look charismatic. 1.00

00:38:46.420 I think Mark Carney is probably saying, do I want that mess?

00:38:51.180 I don't know.

00:38:52.020 I think we'll we'll continue to follow it closely.

00:38:54.420 And if the trend continues, there will be trouble ahead for Trudeau.

00:38:57.340 Although, my God, that Jagmeet Singh props him up.

00:39:00.680 Listen, Manny, it's great to catch up with you.

00:39:02.340 Great.

00:39:02.680 As always, we've covered the waterfront.

00:39:05.260 Folks, we've been talking to our friend Manny Mountain-Agrino, the CEO of ThinkSharp.

00:39:09.200 You take care, my friend, and keep in touch.

00:39:11.060 Take care.

00:39:11.720 Thank you very much.

00:39:12.620 Take care.

00:39:13.100 Bye bye.

00:39:13.400 There you have it.

00:39:14.480 Well, that's our show for today.

00:39:16.240 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:39:21.180 And keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - September 27, 2023

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau's foreign fiascos and domestic disasters： An interview with Manny Montenegrino

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