Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau's pathological lying disrespects Canadians and our society's trust

00:00:00.440 Hello, my rebels. Big show today. I'm going to take you through some government documents

00:00:04.880 found in an access to information request, and I will read them, but I want you to see

00:00:09.840 them. I want you to see these text messages and emails, and I want you to see what it's

00:00:14.140 all about. It is about Justin Trudeau lying about where he was, hiding, deceiving. He

00:00:20.760 didn't want to go to the Truth and Reconciliation Day event with indigenous people, so he had 1.00

00:00:26.940 his staff lie while he scooted away to Tofino to surf, and we've got the documents to prove

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00:01:04.040 program. Cheers.

00:01:10.460 Tonight, a glimpse behind the scenes of Trudeau lying to you in real time. It's February 22nd,

00:01:16.820 and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:22.160 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:33.760 Justin Trudeau is a liar. He thinks nothing of it because he doesn't respect Canadians as

00:01:38.920 moral equals. You can see that. As I showed you yesterday, if you disagree with him, he

00:01:44.200 thinks you're evil, not just wrong, evil. Remember what he said if he regretted calling people

00:01:49.780 a fringe minority? Here's the clip.

00:01:53.780 Following today's report, do you have any regrets about calling Ottawa protesters a fringe minority?

00:01:59.540 Yeah. I wish I had said that differently.

00:02:02.040 As I look back on that, and as I've reflected on it over the past months, not just freshly from

00:02:16.680 this commissioner's report, I wish I had phrased it differently. The fact is, there is a very

00:02:26.040 small number of people in this country who deliberately spread misinformation and disinformation

00:02:34.140 that led to Canadians' deaths, that led to excessive hardship in people who believed them.

00:02:43.460 I continue to be very, very firm against those individuals. But that is a small subset of

00:02:56.200 people who were just hurting and worried and wanting to be heard. And as much as I tried to

00:03:06.740 emphasize throughout the time that, of course, we're always going to stand up for freedom of speech

00:03:11.800 and freedom to protest peacefully. I wish I hadn't said something that was able to

00:03:19.120 be spread larger. If I had chosen my words a bit careful, a bit more specific, I think things might

00:03:25.720 have been a bit easier. See, to Trudeau, there are two kinds of people. Useful people who agree with

00:03:33.140 him and support him, and evil people who disagree with him. You'll notice that no one is an equal to

00:03:40.680 him. No one is inherently worthy of his respect. It's all, how do you fit into his own plans?

00:03:47.160 Now, he can trick people by flattering them or soothing them with clever words. But at his root,

00:03:53.320 I think he's a sociopathic liar. I mean, imagine a guy who dresses up in blackface, so often he lost count,

00:04:01.000 looking you in the eye and calling you a racist. Oh my God, how did he do that? Imagine a guy who sexually

00:04:07.160 assaulted journalist Rose Knight in Creston, BC, telling you you're a sexist. And when asked about

00:04:13.240 his misconduct, says this. Often a man experiences an interaction as being benign or not inappropriate,

00:04:22.360 and a woman, particularly in a professional context, can experience it differently.

00:04:26.680 Now, look, I think all politicians are liars to a degree. And I think sometimes in government,

00:04:31.080 there are occasions where a lie is actually necessary. As Winston Churchill said, in wartime,

00:04:37.720 truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies. Have you ever heard

00:04:43.400 that phrase, a bodyguard of lies? But you shouldn't lie casually or frequently. You shouldn't become

00:04:48.760 at your core a liar. I think Trudeau is, and I've got some proof of it for you today. Now, you shouldn't

00:04:55.960 become a liar because so much of our society depends on honesty and the trust that honesty grows. Give

00:05:02.360 me a minute on this. You know, one of the features of our legal system is that it uses Latin phrases

00:05:07.560 where an English phrase would do nicely. I'm not sure why it does that other than tradition and custom.

00:05:12.840 I think maybe it adds some extra oomph to something as if it's super important when you say it in Latin.

00:05:18.760 Maybe it actually forces you to remember it as a law student. I think that worked on me.

00:05:22.760 De minimis curate lex. That was my favorite. That means the law doesn't care about trivialities. 0.60

00:05:29.880 I always thought of that when I got a speeding ticket for just going a few kilometers an hour

00:05:33.480 faster than the limit. I don't think saying that Latin phrase ever got me out of a ticket though.

00:05:39.560 Mens rea means guilty mind. Ultra virus means outside the power, as in the government doesn't

00:05:45.320 have the power to do something. Maybe all the Latin is just to impress non-lawyers and to justify

00:05:50.280 higher legal fees by making lawyers into some sort of fancy priesthood like a wizard saying a magic

00:05:55.640 spell in a foreign tongue. But here's one that came to mind unprompted today when I thought of Trudeau.

00:06:01.320 And it was this. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. You can probably guess what that means.

00:06:08.440 False in one thing, false in everything. Or put it another way, once a liar, always a liar.

00:06:17.960 Isn't that a good one? And it's true, isn't it? And it's very useful in a legal system where we depend

00:06:24.200 on people to be honest. And forget about the law. What about life? If you know someone is a liar,

00:06:30.360 you approach them with some caution, right? I mean, liars can be interesting. They can be fun. They can

00:06:34.840 be entertaining. They can be impressive. But you can never make yourself vulnerable to them in friendships,

00:06:41.240 in business, in marriage. The law really does put a premium on telling the truth. If you lie under

00:06:47.640 oath, for example, it's a crime called perjury. If you lie in certain contracts, it's called fraud.

00:06:52.920 We really forget how much of our society depends on everybody telling the truth to each other.

00:06:58.040 We are a high trust society. And I can tell you it's much better to live in a high trust society than

00:07:03.480 to live in a low trust society, which is much, if not most of the world. It took centuries for us to

00:07:08.680 learn to trust each other, maybe even millennia. In other places in the world, you can only trust

00:07:13.720 your kin. I heard this saying once when someone was talking about the Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein

00:07:20.600 Al Tikriti. Al Tikriti means Saddam from Tikrit. That was the little town he was from. And that was

00:07:27.800 so much of how he ruled the country because that was his allegiance to his town. Those were the only

00:07:33.000 people he could trust. Here's how I heard it said. I against my brothers. I and my brothers against

00:07:40.440 my cousins. I, my brothers and my cousins against the world. Have you ever heard that? That is a

00:07:46.520 low trust society. That's how they think in Tikrit where Hussein came from. What a dark world that would 0.99

00:07:52.520 be. A world where it is hard to make friends, hard to travel, hard to be vulnerable. You know, I felt it

00:07:58.760 when I went to Iraq a few years ago myself. You remember when Rebel News went there to observe

00:08:03.080 the Christian refugees being persecuted by ISIS? And we went there not only to report, but to disperse

00:08:08.600 money that we raised to help the refugees. And when people detected that we had money, oh, you could

00:08:13.480 feel the change in the air. Everyone was jockeying to empty our pockets to say or do anything to liberate

00:08:19.880 the foolish foreigners of their money. I was told I smiled too much. I looked like an idiot for smiling for 1.00

00:08:25.880 no reason. I was told I said, thank you too easily. And certainly that I said, thank you very much

00:08:31.160 for trivial things. And again, it made me look like an easy mark. Forgive the detour into the importance

00:08:36.120 of a high trust society, but it is very real. And it goes to every part of life from trusting

00:08:42.040 the quality of something you buy in a market to trusting the world enough to let young women walk 1.00

00:08:49.480 alone on the street at night. I'm not calling everyone in Iraq a liar. The opposite, actually.

00:08:56.600 I'm saying they have to be very careful with the truth because it's dangerous to reveal the truth

00:09:00.920 of things in a low trust society. We see some of those risks when people come across to Canada from

00:09:08.200 low trust societies, our welfare system, our food banks, even just for example. They depend on people 1.00

00:09:13.320 being trustworthy and not thinking, oh, my God, these idiots are literally giving us free stuff. 0.54

00:09:17.960 I'm almost done my amateur philosophizing about telling the truth here. Let me just show you a

00:09:22.840 clip from Jordan Peterson, where he talks about this a bit in the context of young women dating men.

00:09:29.640 There's a lot of women out there who've never had a positive relationship with any male in their life.

00:09:34.840 And maybe not only not a positive relationship, but really a series of pretty negative relationships.

00:09:40.040 And so women like that are very leery of any expression of male ability of any sort,

00:09:45.160 because they can't distinguish productive competence from arbitrary power. And one of the

00:09:50.120 tactics that can be used in that situation is just to try to do everything you can to distance yourself

00:09:55.080 as much as you can from any display of male ability, because it can't be distinguished from

00:09:59.320 psychopathy. It takes a sophisticated woman to be able to make that distinction. So the other thing you 1.00

00:10:03.560 see, too, is that young women are much more likely to be seduced by psychopaths than older women,

00:10:08.600 because the psychopaths mimic competence. They're confident and women read confidence as a marker

00:10:14.600 of competence. And that's reasonable. But it opens up a space for exploitation, because if you can mimic

00:10:20.120 confidence, narcissistic false confidence, then you look competent.

00:10:24.120 I think he's right. Con men can trick anyone. But I think there's a certain kind of con man that can

00:10:29.240 trick young women who aren't as experienced as detecting liars. Trudeau is exactly that kind of

00:10:35.400 guy, don't you think? He bamboozles people, particularly women, particularly young women.

00:10:41.560 And I think the polls show that, too. He's a liar. And the thing about liars, especially Trudeau,

00:10:47.160 is that they lie so often about big things and about little things. And soon,

00:10:51.560 lying is their default state. They just do it naturally. It's not a rare exception to get out

00:10:57.480 of a crisis for a higher purpose, like Churchill described. It's just lying is just what they do.

00:11:02.040 They lubricate every life transaction with a lie. I remember when I told a lie back when I was in grade

00:11:09.480 school in the 1970s and my grandma made me write lines. I don't think that's even legal to make a kid

00:11:15.320 write lines in 2023. But one of the things she said to me that I still remember to this day is,

00:11:20.600 it's a lot easier to remember the truth than to remember a lie.

00:11:25.720 And she's right. There's other reasons to tell the truth. But let me show you a story about

00:11:30.840 Justin Trudeau lying. And the tangled web it wove. And you will marvel at how trivial the lie is,

00:11:38.840 how commonplace it is, how minor the matter was, but that won't excuse it. It will do the opposite in

00:11:44.600 your mind, I predict. It will show you that Trudeau standard operating procedure is to lie

00:11:49.080 and to cover up the lie and to get staff to cover up the lie. And they will, and they do,

00:11:53.240 and they have, and they will continue to. And they also learn, learn how it is under Trudeau,

00:11:58.680 learn that the only test of morality is, can you get away with it? So let me tell you about Trudeau's

00:12:04.760 lie going back almost 18 months now. And it's documented in hundreds of pages of access to

00:12:09.800 information documents that you can see on the website under this video. We'll post it there.

00:12:14.760 And the lies are about Trudeau skipping the first Truth and Reconciliation Day holiday,

00:12:22.840 and instead going surfing in Tofino, B.C. Do you remember that, sir?

00:12:31.400 They invited you.

00:12:35.240 I mean, this goes to Trudeau's predatory lies. He'll be a male feminist until he can get a woman alone 0.78

00:12:41.880 in the dark, and then he'll sexually assault her like he did to Rose Knight. He'll go on TV to tell you

00:12:47.720 how much he deeply cares about indigenous reconciliation. And then as soon as he thinks

00:12:53.960 the cameras are off, he'll say, let's get out of here. I want to go surfing, not doing this boring

00:12:59.160 indigenous stuff. Let's start with the first page of this access to information, which is the press

00:13:04.840 clippings of the Privy Council Office. Just to remind you, the PCO or Privy Council Office is the group of

00:13:09.720 civil servants that support Justin Trudeau's office, the PMO, the prime minister's office. So first page,

00:13:15.960 there's a global news story. Trudeau spends first Truth and Reconciliation Day in Tofino on vacation,

00:13:24.600 contradicting itinerary. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is spending the first National Truth and

00:13:29.160 Reconciliation Day on vacation in Tofino, B.C. with his family, despite his official itinerary

00:13:34.120 placing him in private meetings in Ottawa. The prime minister's office confirmed the vacation in

00:13:38.840 the statement sent to Global News. Yes, the PM is spending time in Tofino with family for a few days,

00:13:43.560 Trudeau's spokesperson wrote. But look at this, his official itinerary from September 30th,

00:13:49.880 the official day of the Truth and Reconciliation. It was, well, it claimed he was in Ottawa doing

00:13:54.600 private meetings. But that was a lie. And it would not have been found out if someone hadn't snapped

00:14:01.160 some pictures of Trudeau on the beach. And even the normally pro-Trudeau media like Global News,

00:14:07.320 like the Toronto Star, were so grossed out by him that they started to actually report the truth

00:14:12.200 about his lies. And it was a two part truth, wasn't it? Part one was that Trudeau didn't

00:14:19.400 actually care about Truth and Reconciliation Day. That's just for TV. And part two is that he tried

00:14:25.880 to hide that. And he got his entire staff and the civil service to go along with his life. And he did.

00:14:33.720 Turn ahead to page 24 of this access to information document. This story was blowing up in their faces,

00:14:39.720 but they refused to change the itinerary that they email and fax, if they still do that, to the world

00:14:45.640 every day. They still wanted to keep the lie as much as they could. They didn't want people to be

00:14:50.280 alerted to it. Now, they had to correct things online for the journalists who were snooping and

00:14:55.160 doing the story. But they didn't want to send out emails to alert the world. Look at this.

00:14:58.680 For today's, the update can be made on the web only. No need to reissue. And you'll notice that

00:15:06.920 this correction was only made just before 4 p.m. that day. They let the lie linger as long as they

00:15:13.880 possibly could. And then they corrected it in as small a place as possible. But even then,

00:15:20.520 they kept lying. It was like those Russian dolls, you know, where there's a doll within a doll 1.00

00:15:24.200 within a doll. In this case, it was lies within lies within lies. Look at this on page 72 of this

00:15:29.000 document. Attached, you can find for your approval the draft PM itinerary for tomorrow

00:15:34.520 with private meetings only as per previous instructions. Hang on. He was not in private

00:15:40.760 meetings. He was surfing. He was photographed on the beach. He wasn't in meetings. Even when he was

00:15:46.520 caught lying about where he was, he still lied about what he was doing. And the whole government

00:15:50.280 lied with him. The media was outraged. They actually don't mind when Trudeau lies about

00:15:55.080 himself or about conservatives or about truckers or about taxes. But they actually thought he cared

00:16:00.040 about indigenous people. And there he was surfing. So finally, Trudeau's office, finally under pressure,

00:16:06.520 asked the Privy Council to change the location from Ottawa to BC. But just to BC, he still wouldn't admit

00:16:13.560 he was in Tofino because everyone knows that's a surfing town and Trudeau's favorite vacation spot.

00:16:19.240 Look at page 98. Can we change the location to British Columbia instead of Ottawa for the

00:16:25.080 itineraries until Sunday, please? Keep them personal and issue at 7 a.m. day of. Thanks.

00:16:32.040 BC, eh? Yeah, no. He still couldn't admit it. Why wouldn't they say Tofino, the town, when they

00:16:38.440 suddenly made the switch to just saying the province? Well, look at this text message exchange.

00:16:43.000 This is Alex from PCOCOMS. We typically include both city and province in the PM's itinerary.

00:16:50.520 Is there a city in BC we can include from Friday to Saturday? Please let me know. Merci. And the reply

00:16:57.080 from Trudeau staff. Have we ever not simply listed province in the past? And the reply. Well, we haven't,

00:17:04.840 but technically it can be done on the website. If we never have, then let's put Tofino BC, but then

00:17:11.960 look lower in this text message exchange. They only want the change on the website. They don't want

00:17:15.800 any emails alerting people that he's in Tofino. Look at page 40 here. And just in case you thought this

00:17:24.040 was a last minute thing. And maybe they didn't know where Trudeau was going. These access to

00:17:29.240 information documents show you they knew, obviously knew they had it all planned on page 40 of document

00:17:34.600 six. You can see expense reports for various staff who go along at taxpayers expense to do whatever

00:17:40.760 Trudeau wants them to do. You can see, for example, Jared Mulally went from September 30th to October 4th.

00:17:46.920 Now I'm not picking on him. I'm just showing you that everyone in the government knew exactly where

00:17:51.080 Trudeau was long in advance. And they sent the support staff. A prime minister does not travel

00:17:55.960 light. Security, logistics, key, personal staff, support staff. They all know, they all knew he

00:18:01.640 was lying about where he was. And they all went along with the lie until someone spotted the liar on the

00:18:08.280 beach. I guess Trudeau isn't so worried about misinformation and disinformation, is he? And of course,

00:18:16.920 when Trudeau uses those words, he really just means anyone who has a different opinion on him. And

00:18:20.920 we already know he thinks they're evil. When Trudeau says misinformation, he just means people who

00:18:25.960 disagree with him. But in this case, it wasn't a matter of opinion, was it? Trudeau was not in

00:18:32.040 Ottawa. He was not in private meetings. He was surfing on the beach while misleading Canadians about

00:18:39.480 his presence so he could skip the Truth and Reconciliation Day. After all, he didn't need to do that,

00:18:45.320 go to bat, go to bat. He's very truthful and very reconciled. I mean, really, wasn't this just a

00:18:51.080 learning opportunity for you, the little people? What a scoundrel he is. What a wicked liar.

00:18:58.680 Stay with us for more.

00:19:12.760 Welcome back. Well, access to information requests are an important tool for journalists,

00:19:17.720 at least those who aren't in the media party, to find out what's really going on. Look,

00:19:22.600 I just don't think there's a lot of real journalism going on in Canada anymore. The media party,

00:19:28.040 with some notable exceptions, asks softballs, process questions. I want to give credit to the

00:19:34.520 Globe and Mail because they are strong on the China file. Steve Chase and Bob Fyfe have done

00:19:40.600 excellent work in the last week or so. We haven't had a chance to really dig into it. But first,

00:19:45.400 with the Chinese influence in the last election to get freedom and democracy oriented candidates

00:19:53.560 replaced by, in Canada, replaced by pro-communist party candidates. And then the latest story,

00:20:01.240 that there are Chinese listening devices that were discovered in Canada's Arctic. I think Bob Fyfe

00:20:06.680 and Steve Chase deserve credit for that and the Globe and Mail does too.

00:20:11.240 But I've just about gone through the whole list of journalists who are willing to do genuine challenges

00:20:19.240 to the governing party. And that's why it's so important that independent groups like Rebel News,

00:20:26.120 but like our next guest, are out there asking questions, not about, you know, the latest process

00:20:33.400 question or just, you know, colorful details about what's going on in parliament, but substantive questions

00:20:39.640 about where's our money going and how's the country being run. And I refer to the Canadian Taxpayers

00:20:45.640 Federation and their boss, Franco Terrazzano, who made an access to information request that I

00:20:51.800 know no journalist would have asked about. And had a journalist asked this question,

00:20:55.960 they would have been ignored. I'm talking about asking how many CBC staff make a hundred thousand

00:21:05.400 dollars or more a year. That's a great question, isn't it? Well, the man who asked that question and got

00:21:11.800 the answer is our guest now. Franco Terrazzano joins us via Skype. Franco, great to see you.

00:21:16.680 Great question, by the way. I think there would be a couple of MPs who would ask that question,

00:21:21.960 maybe some independent journalists. But for sure, you're not going to see a CBC journalist

00:21:27.240 ask that kind of question. They're in a conflict of interest, aren't they?

00:21:32.040 Yeah. Well, why would they want to talk about it? Hey, Ezra. But we want to talk about it because

00:21:35.720 we know it matters for taxpayers. I mean, after all, the CBC is taking more than a billion dollars

00:21:41.480 every year from taxpayers. OK, so let me reveal just how many CBC staffers there are with six

00:21:48.360 figure salaries. Plus in 2021, 949 CBC employees took home at least more than a hundred thousand

00:21:59.640 dollars in an annual salary. 949 CBC staffers. That's incredible. Now, I know a little bit of

00:22:07.400 something about the media business, not just from my experience at Rebel News, but before that at Sun

00:22:13.080 News Network. I worked before that at the Sun newspapers, Western Standard. And I and I know enough

00:22:20.760 journalists to know that a hundred thousand dollars is the absolute high end. You know, a very senior

00:22:29.960 journalist, a 30 year journalist at a leading newspaper might make six figures in the private

00:22:36.040 sector. It is extraordinarily rare. And I should tell you, Franco, that the young journalists coming

00:22:41.640 right out of J school, a lot of internships are unpaid, if you can believe it. And a lot of entry

00:22:50.120 level journalists are making forty thousand dollars a year, maybe. So the idea that you've got nearly

00:22:57.800 a thousand journalists making a hundred thousand dollars. Now, they're not all journalists. There's

00:23:03.880 lots of bureaucrats at the CBC, too, is absolutely stunning. I saw your numbers. I saw your research.

00:23:11.640 And I couldn't help but notice, Franco, that the number is up 30 percent since the pandemic.

00:23:19.480 And it's up one hundred and sixteen percent since Trudeau took office. What I'm saying is,

00:23:25.080 these may be tough times for Canadians, certainly tough times for journalists, though I don't really

00:23:29.480 shed a tear. But at the CBC, these are the boom years, the golden years. It's never been better than

00:23:36.200 it is right now to work as a government journalist, Franco.

00:23:39.320 And you know what? That's what's so crazy, right? I mean, just for starters, nine hundred and forty

00:23:46.200 nine CBC staffers in twenty twenty one with a six figure salary. OK, but let's look at how the numbers

00:23:52.840 have ballooned since Trudeau came to power since he took the big seat. The prime minister's chair,

00:23:59.000 we have seen the number of CBC staffers increase every single year since the Trudeau government took over

00:24:05.080 and has doubled since 2015. And I'm glad you brought up the pandemic because it's really

00:24:11.560 eye popping there, too. There are now two hundred and twenty more CBC staffers who make more than 0.76

00:24:17.960 one hundred thousand dollars a year in salary alone since the beginning of the pandemic and

00:24:23.160 extra two hundred and twenty since the onset of COVID-19. Now, you bring up some really interesting

00:24:29.400 points here, right? Because as the CBC, as it is booming with more taxpayers money, well, what's

00:24:35.640 happening to their competitors in the private sector or independent media? Well, you hear many stories

00:24:41.400 quite often of newsrooms being cut to the bone. But an even better comparison is, well, what's happening

00:24:47.400 to the taxpayers who are footing these bills, especially during the pandemic when so many people

00:24:52.840 took pay cuts in the private sector, when so many people lost their job or their business to know

00:24:59.320 that they are paying more than a billion dollars a year to the CBC? Right. And then you see these

00:25:06.440 numbers startling numbers where there's nine hundred and forty nine CBC staffers who would be on the

00:25:11.720 sunshine list. Frank, I want to tell you one more thing. I want to tell you about the psychology of

00:25:17.000 what's going on. First of all, the CBC is larger than all the rest of the news

00:25:22.600 journalists combined in the country. So the CBC, it's not just a player. It is the dominant player.

00:25:29.080 It's the sumo wrestler in the room. And so they are all by nature grateful to be making six figures.

00:25:38.360 But there's a secondary effect. You just mentioned how it's difficult in the rest of the economy,

00:25:44.040 including in other media companies. Post Media, the largest private sector media company,

00:25:48.920 even though they're on the government teat, they are still laying off all the private media

00:25:53.640 are laying off. So put yourself in the mindset for a second, Franco. You're working for the Toronto

00:25:58.600 Star. You're working for the Globe and Mail. You're working for the Sun, whatever your local newspaper is.

00:26:05.400 And you're maybe making 50 grand a year. And you're thinking, not only am I not making a lot of money,

00:26:10.200 but I might well get laid off. The only place that I can have a secure future is being a government

00:26:17.320 journalist at the CBC. So I'm going to start my CBC style journalism now at the Regina Leader Post,

00:26:25.880 at the Saskatoon Star Phoenix, at the Calgary Herald, at the Edmunds Journal, at the Vancouver Sun.

00:26:30.680 I want to start putting together a portfolio of pro-government journalism now so that when I'm

00:26:38.440 laid off here at my private newspaper, I can get a gig with the CBC, who will be the last man standing,

00:26:44.360 Franco. It's not just that they're so well paid. It's that every other journalist in the country is

00:26:50.600 thinking, geez, if I want to stay in the industry, I'm going to have to look at moving over there.

00:26:56.520 So in that way, I put it to you, the CBC actually shapes the coverage of the private media in Canada

00:27:04.120 too. Well, that's really interesting, Ezra. And I think we can agree for sure that there is no

00:27:12.040 shortage of reasons to defund the CBC. Isn't that right? But hey, I got another access to information

00:27:17.720 request that will make your viewers' blood boil even more. And it's this, okay? During the pandemic

00:27:24.520 years, the CBC handed out $51 million in bonuses and pay raises to its employees. You hear that?

00:27:32.760 $51 million in bonuses and raises to the CBC's employees during the pandemic. So Ezra, if they

00:27:39.080 have all this cash just lying around where they can hand out millions and millions of dollars in

00:27:44.360 bonuses and raises during a pandemic, I'm pretty sure they don't need to be taking all this cash from

00:27:48.900 taxpayers. And oh, by the way, the recent fiscal update from the Trudeau government gave the CBC

00:27:55.060 another $42 million to recover from the pandemic after they just handed out $51 million in bonuses

00:28:02.680 and raises. Does that make sense to you? No, it doesn't. And by the way, the pandemic and the

00:28:08.840 lockdowns, which were atrocious on the civil liberty side and atrocious on the public health side,

00:28:13.800 but they were a benefit to one thing, people who serve you when you're locked in your house.

00:28:20.240 So Netflix and Disney Plus and all these companies boomed during the lockdown. In fact,

00:28:26.880 now that the lockdowns are over, these companies are not meeting their same earnings targets.

00:28:32.380 But during 2020, 2021, 2022, that was the golden age for Amazon, for anything internet-ish,

00:28:40.940 anything downloadable-ish. And the CBC should have been making money and sending it back to the

00:28:48.460 taxpayer. But not only were they not making money, they were handing out bonuses like crazy. And I

00:28:53.860 understand they actually shut down some of their TV broadcasts during the pandemic just because.

00:28:59.400 So they, only the CBC would waste a, like, how do you lose money when every one of your citizens is

00:29:10.360 locked in their home and forced to watch TV all day? The CBC will find a way and then they'll ask for a

00:29:15.800 bigger bailout and then they'll ask for a raise. It's crazy time, Franco. It's unbelievable.

00:29:21.580 Hey, there's only one other industry that you forgot to mention that was booming during the pandemic,

00:29:26.060 the government. The industry that is the government was booming, right? While the constituents,

00:29:32.360 the people they're supposed to work for, just felt so much pain, whether it was job losses or even

00:29:37.660 business losses, let's not forget that the government at large was taking pay raises, bonuses to the

00:29:45.080 tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, all paid for by the taxpayer that has been taking it on the

00:29:50.860 chin, whether it's through these different types of regulations or the restrictions or just the tax

00:29:56.720 increases that we've seen. You know, I'll never forget the fact that Destination Canada, another

00:30:02.660 crown corporation, which is supposed to promote Canadian tourism abroad, while people were illegally

00:30:08.820 or legally prevented from coming into Canada, while the restaurant industry was shut down, when the

00:30:14.680 tourism industry was shut down, Destination Canada still handed out bonuses and raises to its

00:30:20.500 employees. Unbelievable. So frustrating now that I'm thinking about that. You know, I list, I often list

00:30:27.660 institutions that failed us during the lockdowns. I mentioned the media, I mentioned the opposition

00:30:32.620 parties, I mentioned so many groups, but you're reminding me of the chambers of commerce, like the

00:30:38.700 Canadian Food and Restaurant Association, all the retail associations, they were silent as their members

00:30:44.940 were slaughtered by these government lockdowns. I'm reminded of that painful fact. Hey, let me throw in one

00:30:50.440 more thing at you because it, and I don't know if it was your access to information or some other way

00:30:55.340 this came to light. But a few years ago, some viewers might recall that the president of the CBC

00:31:00.220 was named Hubert Lacroix. And he got a huge six-figure salary as the, but he's no longer the president,

00:31:07.980 Catherine Tate is. Bizarrely, so weirdly, Justin Trudeau personally requested that Hubert Lacroix's salary

00:31:18.320 retroactively be given a $40,000 raise. I don't know if you saw that story in the news today.

00:31:24.700 I haven't. No, I haven't. That's crazy. How do you even do that? He's gone. He no longer works for the CBC.

00:31:31.220 He is retired. They have a new president. But according to cabinet records, Trudeau himself, or how do you do that?

00:31:40.000 Can I get a raise at my last job, Franco? Only the CBC and Trudeau, but that sends a message, doesn't it?

00:31:49.140 It says, hey, journalists, Justin Trudeau will take good care of you, so you better take good care of him.

00:31:56.160 That's a crazy, crazy story. Well, I'm so proud of the work you're doing. And as I started this segment,

00:32:02.180 I said, there's very few independent-minded, skeptical, curious, accountability-oriented people

00:32:08.080 in the country, very few journalists. And I'm so glad you guys did this access to information requests.

00:32:14.800 Tell our viewers where the best place to go is to get the latest on the Taxpayers Federation.

00:32:20.240 Hey, well, thanks so much for having us on today to talk about this. Please check out taxpayer.com,

00:32:25.240 check out our newsroom, check out our petition. And again, just thanks so much for letting us come on

00:32:29.760 to talk on the show today. Well, it's our pleasure, and you're doing great work. And folks,

00:32:33.680 if you're not already a supporter of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, you really got to be, for the

00:32:38.760 same reason that Rebel needs your support, we don't take government money, and neither do they.

00:32:43.780 And that is 100% why they are able to speak truth to power. So go to taxpayer.com and become a supporter.

00:32:51.100 I mean, you can count on one hand the number of independent groups like the Taxpayers Federation

00:32:57.060 who hold the government to account. And I tell you, if we had 100 guys like Franco Teresano in this

00:33:02.140 country, we would be free. If we had 10 guys, we'd have a fighting chance. So go to taxpayer.com. I

00:33:08.300 know most of our viewers already are supporters, Frank Yoba. You're doing a great job, and thanks

00:33:12.160 for being with us today. Thank you, Ezra. All right. Stay with us, folks. Your letters to me next.

00:33:17.640 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me, Joe B. says, Ezra, thanks for the great interview with

00:33:30.800 Andrew Lawton. I think he is one of the most intelligent and perceptive people you have as

00:33:34.580 a conservative voice. You are the other one. Andrew is spot on. You two guys are among the

00:33:38.740 best in our country for honest news. I truly appreciate both of you. Hey, thanks very much.

00:33:43.680 I really appreciate the compliments. And I share your feelings about Andrew. And you know,

00:33:47.900 he's also a genuinely nice guy, I got to tell you. Hardworking guy, smart guy, very strong

00:33:54.640 work ethic. And I enjoy seeing him occasionally, even around the world. When you're far away,

00:34:01.920 like we went to the World Economic Forum in Davos, you get a little lonely. You know, I got

00:34:06.660 a family here in Canada. So to be away for a week, I sort of miss them. Obviously, it's not

00:34:11.080 the same to be with a friend than with family. But it sure was nice to be with other Canadian

00:34:15.760 conservatives. We met up with him at the World Economic Forum. So he really is one of my favorite

00:34:20.900 guys. And I share your thoughts about him completely. So thank you for that kind letter.

00:34:26.700 Marita P. says, Ezra, please just think about this. You know about the mega cities World Economic

00:34:32.360 Forum is planning, e.g. Holland, I think it is. Farmers are protesting the confiscation of their

00:34:37.020 farmland. So it has been a fight. But consider an easier approach, perhaps. Toxic land, people

00:34:42.620 begging government assistance, eventual government buyout. What better plan for a mega city? Soft

00:34:47.340 approach, perhaps. Not a conspiracy theory, just thinking. Always interesting. Look below the

00:34:52.060 surface. Thanks for taking the time to read.

00:34:57.240 I, you know, OK, I hear your interesting ideas there, but I don't think I'm convinced that the

00:35:04.020 war on farmers is about creating a mega city. I don't think so. I think it is about the same thing

00:35:11.540 that the war on energy is. The war on fossil fuels that just transition off of energy. It is to make

00:35:21.100 energy expensive and scarce and to create energy poverty. And you might be thinking, why on earth

00:35:29.140 would anyone do that? Well, to make renewables, solar, wind, other schemes like that, suddenly

00:35:35.740 economically palatable by comparison and to line the pockets of those who are in those industries

00:35:43.140 and to make it tough for life on earth. I mean, all these people are depopulationists.

00:35:49.660 Same thing with food. Make food scarce, expensive. Make, you know, I mean, the price of eggs these 0.99

00:35:56.560 days, the price of meat these days, drive them up to make life harder. So the ordinary person has to

00:36:03.880 reduce their life, lives in energy poverty and food poverty. And by contrast, you know, beyond meat

00:36:11.020 burgers and synthetic meat and crickets and insects become more affordable by comparison. And maybe if

00:36:19.900 you're too poor to buy eggs and meat, maybe you'll eat the crickets, you'll eat the insects.

00:36:24.820 I don't think it's about making bigger cities. I think it's about making energy and food

00:36:31.940 expensive and scarce. And I think that that's an atrocious anti-human agenda.

00:36:41.180 Matthias W says, Hi, Ezra. I'm having difficulties understanding two things from your Ukraine discussion.

00:36:46.560 What is wrong with pulling Western commerce out of Russia and leaving China to fill the void?

00:36:50.460 Isn't it better not to profit from the evil of a government? Should the West profit in Russia

00:36:54.920 while it is attacking Ukraine? Otherwise, how can you criticize the military corporations from

00:36:58.880 wanting to profit from a war or George Soros from choosing to participate in the confiscation of

00:37:03.060 Hungarian Jews property? And what is wrong with Ukraine wanting to recapture all of its territory 0.82

00:37:07.940 pre-2014? Didn't Israel capture territory lost by its attackers in the 50s and 60s? I can 0.96

00:37:13.280 understand not wanting to escalate the war by launching an attack deep into Russia.

00:37:16.460 That should be avoided. Okay. Interesting letter. Thank you for that. And I would answer two points

00:37:22.600 for it. The first is, you know, sanctions are often designed to hurt the government. In many cases,

00:37:31.160 they wind up hurting ordinary people. But in this case, all that's happened is you have,

00:37:35.960 you know, Chinese automakers instead of Ford, Chrysler, other Western automakers.

00:37:42.180 You have Huawei phones instead of Apple or Android phones. So I don't know if you've accomplished

00:37:49.680 anything economically. I don't think you've punished anyone. I think you have just given China a huge 0.86

00:37:56.800 market and fused those two countries together. I think there's a big moral difference between selling

00:38:02.420 a Big Mac or a Starbucks coffee or an Apple phone to a citizen in Moscow versus selling a missile

00:38:10.420 or a bomb to be shot one side or the other, by the way. But my main point yesterday was

00:38:19.020 Russia and China are forming an alliance again, which is something that the West fought very hard

00:38:24.360 to break. Now, the second point you made was about reclaiming Crimea or other parts of Ukraine that

00:38:32.420 Russia seized eight or so years ago. And the thing is, that's just not going to happen in my

00:38:40.260 admittedly amateur layman's view, because Russia has nuclear weapons. That's the point here,

00:38:45.980 is that you're not fighting in Yemen or Rwanda or even Vietnam. At the end of the day,

00:38:53.820 if the bad guy is on the edge of defeat, he may well push that button. I mean, the total war and

00:39:04.440 total unconditional surrender of the Axis powers in World War II was precisely because they didn't 0.82

00:39:10.400 have nukes. Well, Russia does. And I'm not sure, by the way, that the West can beat Russia in a 0.76

00:39:17.620 conventional war in Ukraine. Maybe it can, but I'm not sure about that. You saw Jan Stoltenberg saying

00:39:22.320 NATO is running out of ammunition. But if you were actually to break into Crimea, which has been

00:39:30.660 formally and legally under Russia's parliament annexed into Russia and try and liberate that and

00:39:36.640 recapture that by Ukraine, Russia would most likely resort to unconventional weapons. And my point is,

00:39:44.760 is that worth World War III? In whose possible calculations is that worth a nuclear confrontation?

00:39:56.900 And that last video I played yesterday of Claire Daly, she's a socialist from Ireland. I can't think

00:40:02.920 of someone in the world I would have less in common with. But my God, I'm glad some human somewhere,

00:40:09.880 some politician somewhere is saying, can we please define what a victory is besides burning up $100

00:40:17.300 billion, grinding Ukraine into powder and risking nuclear war? What exactly is a victory? I saw our 1.00

00:40:25.120 own Melanie Jolie, perhaps the least accomplished, least wise foreign minister in Canadian history,

00:40:31.220 saying that they're going to fight for Ukrainian victory no matter what.

00:40:35.680 Can I please ask what that victory looks like? I don't think Trudeau knows, and I don't think Biden

00:40:42.740 knows. And I don't want to go on much longer about Ukraine, but I think things are very troubling.

00:40:48.200 And the closer union between Russia and China is something that I think will haunt the West for 0.80

00:40:53.660 decades. And for what? On that terrible note, let me say goodbye to you. I hope you enjoyed our

00:41:00.160 chat with my favorite guy, Franco Teresano. And wow, to see Trudeau lying in real time and his staff

00:41:08.160 working with, there must have been a hundred different people on those different documents

00:41:12.600 who were aware of Trudeau's lies and worked with them to cover up his lies. That is who your prime

00:41:19.120 minister is. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:41:24.840 good night. And keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - February 22, 2023

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau's pathological lying disrespects Canadians and our society's trust

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