Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau wants to criminalize words, and no one is safe from his wrath

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I'm going to take one more pass at C63, Trudeau's new censorship law.

00:00:05.240 I'm going to tell you some of the foreign reaction, which obviously is more critical

00:00:08.780 than the Canadian reaction, because most Canadian journalists are on the payroll

00:00:12.260 of Justin Trudeau. They don't dare criticize him. I'll show you what some interesting

00:00:16.080 out-of-Canada voices have to say. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to

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00:00:29.060 Justin Trudeau, and it shows. All right, here's today's podcast.

00:00:48.000 Tonight, international reaction to Trudeau's censorship plans grows. It's February 29th,

00:00:54.860 and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:59.060 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:11.460 I can't get over Bill C63, the Online Harms Act. I sort of knew it was coming. This was

00:01:18.420 introduced a few years ago by the Heritage Minister, believe it or not, when it was Stephen

00:01:23.540 Gilboa. It was reintroduced this week by the Justice Minister, whose title now includes

00:01:28.780 Minister of State for Online Harms. That's how important it is to Trudeau. Just a super quick

00:01:34.560 summary, if you've been under a rock or haven't been watching my various shows on it. This law is

00:01:40.960 astonishing. It creates a sentence of life in prison for hate. It has absurd rules, like social media

00:01:48.880 companies must take complaints down, complain about matter down within 24 hours, or face extraordinary

00:01:55.320 fines. You can be charged for anything that you write, including historical things. As long as

00:02:02.640 they're still on the internet, and you have the ability to take them down, you are liable for those

00:02:07.260 words. Words are being criminalized. In particular, if you say anything against people who are transgender,

00:02:13.880 they identify as or express as a woman if they're a man, that's one of the particular things that is

00:02:21.900 a characteristic you cannot criticize in a manner that would likely lead to hate.

00:02:28.700 There's a bounty for nuisance complaints. It's not just going to be prosecutors out there on behalf of

00:02:34.060 the government suing people. Anyone, even non-citizens, even secret complainants can file complaints

00:02:40.720 against you or you or me and have a hearing and keep their secrecy the whole time. One of the most

00:02:46.560 shocking things is preemptive restraining orders with extraordinary powers. For example, on the mere

00:02:53.360 suspicion that you may say something hateful, preemptively, you can be put under house arrest.

00:02:59.000 You can have to have an ankle brace at one of those monitors. You can be forced to give blood or

00:03:04.580 alcohol, sorry, blood or urine tests. It's just very bizarre. It's so bizarre that really smart people

00:03:11.780 who read the news a lot just said this can't be true. One of the smartest people I know is Jordan

00:03:18.980 Peterson, the professor from Toronto who's actually world famous with his rules for life. I had written

00:03:25.700 this little tweet in response to someone who asked a question. Here's what I said, and Jordan Peterson

00:03:31.620 saw this. I said, the Online Harms Act specifically states that if there is an offensive publication

00:03:38.180 that is still online and you have the ability to delete it, you are liable for it. Literally

00:03:42.940 everything you've ever written online will now be actionable against you. Now that doesn't sound

00:03:50.080 right. How can that be? Well, Jordan Peterson asked me that question. He said, where does it state that,

00:03:56.540 Mr. Levant? He called me Mr. Levant. A genuine question. Well, I saw that a few

00:04:01.540 hours later and I wrote back and I said, the bill would create a new section 13-2 of the Canadian

00:04:07.440 Human Rights Act. It says you're liable for anything you've ever posted if you have the

00:04:12.740 power to remove it now. And then I have a link, a clickable link there. And I say, screenshot below.

00:04:19.700 I took a picture of it. And then I said, you can learn more at our website, stopthecensorship.ca. So

00:04:24.240 there it is. I think he thought maybe I was exaggerating. And he wrote back cynically or

00:04:30.600 sarcastically, he said, excellent, retroactive crime. Thanks, Justin Trudeau. That's an evil I

00:04:36.920 hadn't considered before. Sincerely, Satan. His point being, of course, all criminal code

00:04:43.080 prosecutions are for things that you have done. But I think he was astonished that anything you've done

00:04:48.220 years or even decades ago, if it's online, you can be prosecuted for new rules for what you did

00:04:54.200 then when it was legal then. Not only is that a novelty, but of course, the pre-crimes we were

00:05:01.240 talking about is a novelty. This law is really about time travel, isn't it? Now, Scott Adams,

00:05:07.200 who, as you may know, is the inventor of the Dilbert cartoon, and he's become quite a popular

00:05:12.160 political commentator, he saw this exchange between Jordan Peterson and me. He saw my response

00:05:18.980 where I had a link to the primary document, the bill itself, and I had a screenshot of it just so

00:05:24.580 people didn't have to do the clicking themselves if they didn't want to. It's all that it's in plain

00:05:28.680 English. In fact, it's a very short section. And he just didn't believe it. He said, it's too on the

00:05:36.200 nose, he said. It's just, it's too crazy. Something's got to be amiss. Here's a clip of his popular

00:05:42.660 live stream. Now, here's a story that I swear to God, I can't believe it's true. But, you know,

00:05:49.440 Jordan Peterson was interacting with the story, and there was a source was shown. So maybe it's true.

00:05:57.100 Canada is introducing the HARMS Act, where the government can put you under house arrest

00:06:04.840 or make you wear an ankle bracelet if someone else believes that you might in the future write

00:06:11.360 something hateful online. What? If somebody thinks you might in the future write something hateful

00:06:22.340 online, Canada can put a bracelet on you and give you house arrest. How can that be true?

00:06:29.540 I'm going to put a stake in the story and say it's not true.

00:06:34.840 That there's something missing. Now, I saw the source, and it looked like an official bill.

00:06:43.500 There's something wrong here. I'm going to say this is too on the nose,

00:06:48.000 and that there's no way Canada is going to punish people for a crime they didn't do.

00:06:56.780 I'm going to say no. Too on the nose. Now, I get that I saw the source.

00:07:01.840 I get that I saw the source. Don't believe it.

00:07:07.000 Yeah. I know why he's thinking that is because he's, I'm going to guess he's about 60 years old,

00:07:14.300 and his whole life he's seen Canada maybe out of the corner of his eye. Maybe he's visited Canada.

00:07:20.980 And he said Canada is sort of like a calmer, slightly more British, slightly more French America.

00:07:27.180 They have the same civil liberties, civil democracy, rule of law. These things sound so crazy. It just can't be.

00:07:34.880 It just can't be. And I know that instinct. I know that feeling.

00:07:39.620 You don't want to give up on your theory of the world, even when an uncomfortable fact comes.

00:07:44.900 And the truth is, C-63 is an uncomfortable fact. It is an un-Canadian, unfree, illiberal, authoritarian, tyrannical rule. 0.94

00:07:53.660 And a lot of friends of Canada would rather just not want to see it or say you must have something wrong than to acknowledge that's the troublesome state we're in.

00:08:03.960 I've been watching this issue very closely. I was staying up late just looking at reactions to it.

00:08:09.720 And I have actually seen no supporters of C-63 other than paid activists or people who think they will get paid from it.

00:08:20.100 But there is no demand for this. Canadians are talking about a lot of things out there.

00:08:25.100 Grocery prices, rent prices, out-of-control immigration, carbon taxes, traffic, waiting lists for health care, waiting lines for schools. 0.98

00:08:35.320 There's a lot of things people are upset about.

00:08:37.320 I mean, have you ever heard anyone wandering around saying,

00:08:39.800 what we need is for the government to set up, not one, not two, but three new censorship agencies and have a life in prison?

00:08:46.500 Like, I've never heard any person say that.

00:08:49.520 Bernie Farber, a grifter who is with the Anti-Hate Network, or used to be at least.

00:08:55.080 He loves this because this is his business.

00:08:58.020 Stephen Camp, who for years was with the Edmonton Police Hate Unit and is now on a Trudeau hate team.

00:09:05.200 He loves it.

00:09:06.020 And to my great embarrassment, one of the official Jewish agencies in this country called CJA, which I think says for Council for Israel and Jewish Affairs, they came out big time for it. 0.86

00:09:17.940 I was deeply embarrassed that they did so in my name.

00:09:20.180 The J in CJA is Jewish. 0.98

00:09:22.120 I'm Jewish.

00:09:23.080 They didn't ask me.

00:09:24.480 Here's what they wrote.

00:09:26.360 Tell your member of parliament to support Canada's Jews. 1.00

00:09:30.120 And Bill C-63.

00:09:32.240 And then they have a link.

00:09:33.260 They say, as Jews know all too well, what happens online does not stay online. 0.93

00:09:37.620 It affects our community, our children, and real life.

00:09:40.480 On Monday, February 26th, Minister of Justice Arif Varani tabled the long-awaited Bill C-63, the Online Harms Act.

00:09:47.540 With this act, we have a chance to diminish Jew hatred online.

00:09:51.280 Just scroll down underneath that tweet to see all the replies, mainly from pro-Jewish people, pro-Jewish allies.

00:10:02.400 That is, not Jews themselves, but Christians and conservatives saying, what are you doing?

00:10:07.680 I recognize some of the names on there.

00:10:09.300 There are some Jews saying, don't do this in my name.

00:10:11.860 But there's some righteous Gentiles saying, this is a quick way to lose a lot of friends. 0.98

00:10:18.300 Now, the first thing to say is that CJA is on Trudeau's payroll.

00:10:23.260 Here's a link showing just a portion of the grants that they received from the government.

00:10:29.060 I counted up about a quarter million dollars there from Trudeau.

00:10:32.280 I don't know.

00:10:32.780 I guess money talks.

00:10:33.780 But imagine being the Jewish lobby and supporting Trudeau. 0.62

00:10:39.380 Imagine supporting these guys.

00:10:41.180 Here's Mark Miller, who's in cabinet only because he was part of Justin Trudeau's wedding party. 0.98

00:10:45.420 Like, he is a wholly untalented and incompetent man.

00:10:50.020 But he's been given important files because he was there at Trudeau's wedding.

00:10:53.460 Here he is saying that Jews in Gaza who were kidnapped by Hamas, including babies,

00:11:01.900 babies, they're not the hostages.

00:11:04.140 The hostages are the Gazans themselves.

00:11:06.920 Look at this.

00:11:07.600 I undertook with my cabinet colleagues to help push local authorities, including Israel and

00:11:13.140 Egypt, to make sure that we could facilitate their transition into Cairo and then complete

00:11:19.400 biometrics and then to Canada so that they can be in safety.

00:11:22.200 So it's very frustrating to me.

00:11:24.300 I don't want to put together a program that is failing.

00:11:27.000 But we are all failing Gazans at this point.

00:11:28.820 And I think that is something that we need to realize that they are under their it's probably

00:11:35.780 the largest hostage taking right now and in the world.

00:11:39.900 And it is something that Canada can play a small role in it.

00:11:44.520 We can't be everything to everyone.

00:11:45.860 But if Canada can play a role in this and getting people out and safe, we're willing to play it.

00:11:51.660 But right now we haven't had the success that we wanted to.

00:11:55.040 And here's a clip from later in the day when Melanie Jolie, the foreign minister, was asked

00:11:59.280 about a massacre of Gazans by Israel.

00:12:03.660 But it wasn't by Israel.

00:12:05.080 It was by Hamas. 0.80

00:12:06.700 They drove an aid truck over starving Gazans that Hamas was stealing the aid from.

00:12:12.460 It was Hamas that killed the Gazans.

00:12:15.380 The question was put to Jolie.

00:12:17.340 She obviously knew what the facts were, but she went with it because the Liberal Party of

00:12:22.060 Canada has gone full pro-Hamas. 0.94

00:12:23.380 Here, watch for yourself.

00:12:25.300 This morning, an Israeli attack killed 112, at least 112 Palestinians waiting for food aid

00:12:31.040 in Gaza.

00:12:32.120 At this point, what more can you do now that you've called for a ceasefire to urge Israel 0.94

00:12:36.240 to stop?

00:12:37.220 Indeed, we have called for a ceasefire.

00:12:39.060 When it comes to what happened in Gaza today, you've heard me.

00:12:45.540 I must say, I think this is a nightmare.

00:12:50.580 I think the violence must stop.

00:12:53.160 I think civilians can not be targeted.

00:12:57.220 And at the end of the day, we need to make sure that international aid is sent into Gaza

00:13:02.580 and that people are protected when they go and get that aid that they need to survive.

00:13:09.460 So we are calling for both parties to respect the International Court of Justice decision.

00:13:15.780 And at all times, international humanitarian law must be respected.

00:13:19.540 Here's the drone footage showing what happened.

00:13:22.500 It wasn't Israeli troops that killed them.

00:13:24.760 It was Hamas on the truck and driving the truck. 0.99

00:13:27.940 Imagine thinking that these are the good guys.

00:13:31.660 Well, let me show you what I wrote to CJ.

00:13:34.100 And I should tell you that, I don't know, about a decade ago or a little more than that,

00:13:37.960 I was actually on the board of directors of the precursor organization to CJ called the Canada Israel Community.

00:13:44.460 It was a volunteer position.

00:13:46.700 I was not elected to it.

00:13:48.120 CJ is not elected by Jews.

00:13:49.860 They claim to speak for Jews, but they're just sort of self-appointed in that regard.

00:13:54.000 They're actually recruited by big donors who are mainly Montreal Jewish liberals.

00:14:01.080 I was sort of the token conservative.

00:14:02.760 They thought they'd better bring me aboard because they knew this was, I guess, more than 10 years ago now.

00:14:07.980 They knew that Stephen Harper was coming up and the liberals were going to go into the wilderness for a while.

00:14:12.240 And they wanted to have some connection to the conservatives.

00:14:15.380 So I got to see them from the inside.

00:14:17.940 Let me read to you what I wrote online in response to CJ.

00:14:22.900 I said, this is a disgrace and it is not supported by ordinary Jews. 1.00

00:14:27.880 This is a statement by official Jews who happen to have been paid $250,000 by Trudeau.

00:14:33.280 And I had a link that I showed you earlier.

00:14:36.040 I said, they're Trudeau's house Jews, willing to sell out their own interests for a few bucks. 1.00

00:14:40.120 They're the corporate equivalent of Anthony Housefather.

00:14:43.300 He's a liberal cabinet minister who has decided.

00:14:45.300 He said, keeping his cabinet minister's chauffeured limousine, an expense account, is more important to him than representing his conscience or his constituents.

00:14:57.160 Philosophically, censorship is contrary to Jewish ethics of debate and dissent.

00:15:01.240 Two Jews, three opinions, goes the same. 0.89

00:15:03.260 Democratically, CJ has no mandate to say this on behalf of anyone.

00:15:08.040 Not that they ever do.

00:15:09.060 CJ's board is handpicked by liberal affiliated donors, not elected by grassroots Jews. 0.61

00:15:13.340 But pragmatically, this censorship law will be used against Jews and Zionists. 0.95

00:15:18.620 The woke left already says Zionism is racism.

00:15:22.140 This law will weaponize that. 0.98

00:15:24.140 Existing human rights laws have already been used to outlaw criticism of Islam as Islamophobia.

00:15:29.620 I myself was prosecuted for 900 days for publishing the Danish cartoons of Mohammed.

00:15:34.720 And Mark Stein was, too, for questioning unlimited immigration.

00:15:38.560 These official Jews think it's 1990, when they had a monopoly on political cancel culture, 0.99

00:15:44.140 when the Muslim population in Canada was trivial, 0.99

00:15:46.640 and when the threat was harmless, poor, white, anti-Semites with obscure blogs. 0.98

00:15:52.000 Today, the anti-Israel left dominates cancel culture, 0.98

00:15:55.220 and anti-Semites are rich, powerful, and more numerous than the Jews.

00:15:58.480 It's a laugh to think that Trudeau cares about anti-Semitism.

00:16:01.740 He allows it in his own caucus, in his own cabinet, and he indulges in it himself.

00:16:07.160 Time after time, his government hires brutal Jew haters to senior positions in government,

00:16:12.160 from Amira El-Gawabi to Laith Marouf to Omar El-Gabra. 0.61

00:16:15.620 Do the official Jews really think that Trudeau's going to stop 0.83

00:16:18.100 the tidal wave of Islamist and leftist anti-Semitism online when he abides it in real life?

00:16:23.840 It's already against the criminal code to, quote,

00:16:26.600 promote anti-Semitism by condoning, denying, or downplaying the Holocaust.

00:16:30.380 That's actually in the criminal code, Section 319.

00:16:34.020 It's already against the criminal code to, quote, advocate or promote genocide.

00:16:39.320 That is Section 318.

00:16:41.100 That is against the law.

00:16:42.080 It's a crime right now.

00:16:43.680 Both of those things are happening every day in the streets of Toronto and Montreal and elsewhere,

00:16:47.140 and Trudeau hasn't said a word against it, let alone prosecute anyone.

00:16:51.680 Why would the official Jews think that Trudeau would suddenly turn into a savior of the Jews online?

00:16:56.260 The official Jews are just an arm of the Liberal Party, I wrote.

00:16:58.980 The former head of the Canada-Israel Committee, Mark Gold, is now Trudeau's leader in the Senate.

00:17:04.080 CJ's support for the censorship is not in the Jewish interest, but it is in Trudeau's interest, 0.94

00:17:09.200 and that's what's important to them.

00:17:10.400 The majority of Canadians, time and again, tell posters they're against government censorship,

00:17:14.900 and those numbers are highest amongst conservatives, the very people who support Israel the most.

00:17:21.080 CJ's support for Trudeau's censorship will not convince a single person,

00:17:24.760 but it will antagonize the Jews' remaining friends in Canada. 1.00

00:17:27.960 This is stupid, self-destructive, dishonest, and partisan. 1.00

00:17:31.960 The fact that CJ's position is identical to the position of the Islamist National Council for Canadian Muslims 1.00

00:17:37.220 tells you all you need to know.

00:17:38.340 If this were 1940, CJ would be auditioning for the role of the Judenrat. 0.87

00:17:43.360 So gross, or as the Jews would say, a shanda for the goyim. 0.98

00:17:47.240 In Yiddish, that means a shame unto the people. 0.97

00:17:50.120 It's an embarrassment for the Jewish community and the broader community. 1.00

00:17:54.360 I'm embarrassed for them, and it's stupid. 1.00

00:17:57.400 Do they really think that Justin Trudeau is suddenly going to go to war against anti-Semitism? 0.99

00:18:02.280 And what does it mean to go against anti-Semitism online,

00:18:06.620 when you've got actual violence on the streets, Molotov cocktails thrown at schools and synagogues,

00:18:13.400 let alone just basic things like extremely violent graffiti around Toronto,

00:18:20.140 harassment of people,

00:18:22.280 smashing things,

00:18:25.640 terrifying people at Jewish-run businesses, 0.99

00:18:30.560 going into malls masked up and threatening people with murder?

00:18:36.620 You think the problem is some tweet?

00:18:39.040 The problem's in the streets. 0.95

00:18:40.900 What fools would think, oh, banning things on the internet will solve this problem that way? 0.94

00:18:45.580 That's what the Liberal Party would say, not what any Jewish advocates would say. 0.99

00:18:49.060 I'm embarrassed for them.

00:18:52.400 But other people who aren't paid by the government,

00:18:55.640 like I say, it's only people who are on the payroll who support this.

00:18:58.760 I've literally never met nor even heard of anyone who likes this,

00:19:02.240 other than if they're part of that grifting race huckster industry.

00:19:06.160 But I think the rest of the world is starting to wake up,

00:19:08.040 even more than Canada's own media.

00:19:09.380 I did one hour on the channel Infowars today,

00:19:13.380 letting Americans know what's going on.

00:19:14.960 I was invited by Glenn Beck on tomorrow morning.

00:19:17.060 I'll be on his radio show at about 9.30 a.m. Eastern time to talk about this.

00:19:22.440 I think the world outside of Canada is waking up,

00:19:25.840 and they're shocked.

00:19:26.580 Like I say, neither Jordan Peterson, who I guess is Ontarian,

00:19:29.560 but he's sort of a global force these days.

00:19:31.000 And Scott Adams wouldn't even believe it.

00:19:32.720 He said, I saw the proof.

00:19:33.780 I just don't believe it.

00:19:35.440 I think this is going to get more coverage internationally than in Canada

00:19:39.460 because, of course, as you know,

00:19:41.460 Canadian journalists are all on Trudeau's payroll, just like CJ is.

00:19:45.940 I'm trying to figure out what to do.

00:19:48.520 We've got a petition at stopthecensorship.ca.

00:19:51.660 We've had that up there for a while.

00:19:53.120 It's actually got about 60,000 signatures.

00:19:55.520 If you want to add yours, feel free.

00:19:57.060 The reason for that is to show politicians how big an issue this is.

00:20:00.760 Imagine if we got 100,000 or 200,000 signatures.

00:20:03.340 That's a mighty big petition.

00:20:05.880 I think that would demonstrate to politicians how wrong this is.

00:20:09.840 When was the last time you heard of a petition that big?

00:20:11.740 It's pretty rare.

00:20:13.420 We're not in a position to stop it legally yet because it's not enacted yet.

00:20:18.320 We have to wait till this law takes effect and then wait till they operationalize it.

00:20:23.520 I don't know if simply having it on the books is enough.

00:20:25.880 I think maybe they have to start hunting and censoring people before we can take action,

00:20:30.340 but we will.

00:20:30.820 In the meantime, I think step one for us is to teach the world, spread the word about 0.98

00:20:36.500 what's going on, and argue with people like the fools of the Jewish agency who think that 0.98

00:20:41.780 this censorship is going to work out well for them. 0.99

00:20:43.720 Censorship never works out well.

00:20:46.280 Well, that's trying to get it out of my system, but I'm not going to get it out of my system.

00:20:50.520 This is such a terrifying thing.

00:20:52.400 It really is an existential threat to anyone whose motto is telling the other side of the story

00:20:58.080 because the other side of the story is being criminalized.

00:21:01.840 We're going to fight this as hard as we can and as smart as we can,

00:21:05.620 and the fight has begun already.

00:21:08.960 Stay with us.

00:21:10.040 Mark Morano's next.

00:21:11.060 Hey, welcome back.

00:21:23.740 Obviously, we are very—I'm not going to say that we're obsessed with Bill C-63.

00:21:28.700 It's like the saying goes, you may not be interested in politics, but politics is interested in you.

00:21:34.220 We can pretend C-63 is just a regular piece of news, but that would be false.

00:21:39.460 C-63 is a hunter-killer piece of legislation designed to silence peaceful protest and criticism of Justin Trudeau

00:21:47.240 with the most authoritarian means ever seen in the free world.

00:21:50.500 It's just that.

00:21:51.960 So please forgive me for focusing on it for days in a row.

00:21:55.660 But there are other things going on in the world.

00:21:59.200 Authoritarianism and tyranny take many forms.

00:22:01.120 I don't know if you remember a few months ago when I went to the Netherlands to meet with Geert Wilders.

00:22:07.560 He's the leader of the Party for Freedom, who stunned observers by winning the most seats in their parliamentary election.

00:22:15.080 It was very interesting to go out there, and I had a 20-minute interview with him,

00:22:19.040 which I thought was very exciting for me,

00:22:21.420 but there was one moment in the interview that was just weird.

00:22:26.100 And let me play it for you, and let me comment on it, and let me introduce our next guest.

00:22:32.060 Do you remember this from that interview?

00:22:33.780 People feel that they are totally interjected, the Dutchmen, the indigenous people.

00:22:38.360 They believe that while we spent 60, 17 billion euros a year

00:22:44.340 when it comes to nitrogen or climate change or all those other things,

00:22:51.060 that they have trouble paying for their utilities, the rent, the gasoline for their car,

00:23:00.160 the social security or the healthcare system.

00:23:03.040 So we believe that we should stop feeding those leftish, liberal, ideological nonsense issues,

00:23:10.680 and we should make sure that our people have enough money in their pocket

00:23:15.440 and really can help our economy and help themselves.

00:23:18.200 Geert Wilders was talking about nitrogen, one of the elements on the periodic table,

00:23:24.680 the same way that Canadians talk about carbon.

00:23:27.700 Carbon. Canadian politicians are obsessed with carbon.

00:23:31.280 Carbon tax, carbon neutral, carbon levy, carbon rebate, carbon, carbon, carbon.

00:23:36.520 You talk to anyone 15 years ago, they'd say, what are you crazy?

00:23:39.980 Is this a chemistry test?

00:23:41.760 If you press them, they say, well, carbon is with carbon dioxide.

00:23:45.280 Every sugar is carbon. Hydrocarbons, natural gas were made of carbon.

00:23:50.160 And it wasn't until I heard Geert Wilders talk about nitrogen, blah, blah, blah, nitrogen,

00:23:56.720 just dropped it casually that I thought, he sounds crazy talking about nitrogen that way,

00:24:03.300 but I know it's not him. I know it's the rule he's against.

00:24:06.540 We sound crazy that way talking about carbon.

00:24:10.720 It is insane to declare war against an element on the periodic table,

00:24:17.500 especially one that's so ubiquitous.

00:24:19.040 Not only is carbon the stuff of life, the stuff of everything, but nitrogen even more so.

00:24:25.680 The majority of air is nitrogen.

00:24:28.660 Imagine declaring war on nitrogen. 0.99

00:24:31.020 These people are crazy. 0.97

00:24:32.600 And when I mean these people, I don't mean Geert Wilders. 0.96

00:24:34.880 He was talking about the craziness of using nitrogen,

00:24:39.740 making it scary and using that as a battering ram.

00:24:42.980 And the reason I mention that is that the Netherlands is one of the largest food exporters in the world.

00:24:51.140 It's enormous in agriculture.

00:24:53.480 You wouldn't think it from a fairly small country, but it is.

00:24:57.360 And the same way going to war against carbon in Canada, one of the coldest countries in the world,

00:25:02.920 one of the largest countries in the world, going to war against carbon is nuts in a large, cold country.

00:25:08.540 You're going to war against nitrogen, which is a factor in agricultural fertilizer, is nuts.

00:25:15.720 And the only way it can be justified is when you realize that they have the same war on food as they have the war on fuel.

00:25:25.460 And a happy society depends on plentiful, cheap energy and food.

00:25:32.220 And it's the same mind virus that goes after carbon, that goes after nitrogen.

00:25:36.540 And with that lengthy introduction, let me introduce you to a man who follows carbon more than most.

00:25:43.400 He's the CEO of ClimateDepot.com.

00:25:46.060 You know who I'm talking about, my friend Mark Moran.

00:25:47.640 Mark, great to see you again.

00:25:49.320 Hey, thank you, Ezra. Happy to be here.

00:25:51.220 Don't mind me rambling on a little bit about nitrogen.

00:25:53.700 It was just, we're going to talk about nitrogen a bit today,

00:25:56.420 because that's one of the issues in this uprising in Europe, the farmer rebellion.

00:26:03.040 And hearing her builders mention nitrogen so casually,

00:26:07.060 it would be like if someone suddenly out of the blue said,

00:26:09.360 we've got to do something about all this hydrogen. 0.95

00:26:12.000 You'd say, what, are you crazy?

00:26:14.600 Yes, it is a madness. 0.83

00:26:16.620 Mark, tell us what's going on in Europe.

00:26:19.220 We see images of farmers protesting in the most creative ways,

00:26:23.760 you know, dumping manure on politicians' buildings.

00:26:27.960 Give us an update.

00:26:28.720 What's going on with the farmers' protests in Belgium especially?

00:26:32.580 It gives me some vibes of the Canadian trucker protest.

00:26:36.820 It does.

00:26:37.520 That's the first thing I was going to say, Ezra,

00:26:39.060 is Europeans probably wake up every day and thank God that Justin Trudeau isn't their leader,

00:26:44.980 because right now they would be declared domestic terrorists

00:26:48.100 under a first ever invoked emergencies act in Europe,

00:26:51.480 and they would be facing not having access to their own money,

00:26:55.660 having their insurance canceled.

00:26:56.900 So the good news is Justin Trudeau's not there to crack down on them.

00:27:01.020 That's the first point I wanted to make.

00:27:03.080 But it's absolutely amazing what is happening.

00:27:07.140 What's happening in Europe right now with this farmer rebellion 0.81

00:27:10.980 is what I wish had happened back in March and April of 2020

00:27:15.660 with the general public against the public health tyranny

00:27:18.760 that was COVID and lockdowns and stay-at-home and social distancing

00:27:22.360 and cancellation of wedding funerals.

00:27:25.480 The farmers aren't taking it anymore.

00:27:27.840 And what they're not taking is the net zero agenda

00:27:30.860 that was born out of the 1992 Rio Earth Summit

00:27:34.480 and then, of course, moved forward all the way to the UN Paris Agreement.

00:27:37.740 And the idea here is, and in many of these countries,

00:27:41.720 it's not even the politicians go and agree to these UN climate summits,

00:27:45.820 but then they become law at home,

00:27:47.700 and the courts order the farmers to start reducing emissions.

00:27:51.540 And what happens is these are climate compliance costs,

00:27:54.580 meaning small, family-run, generational farms

00:27:58.840 can't afford the cost to absorb all of these costs

00:28:02.040 and new ways and new technology

00:28:04.200 that's supposed to capture the nitrogen. 0.99

00:28:05.720 And what ends up happening is they're facing extinction.

00:28:09.100 The big boys come in, the billionaire, the equity asset,

00:28:12.080 the big agribusiness, corporate,

00:28:14.040 which is exactly what the forces of the United Nations

00:28:17.000 World Economic Forum want, because they can control them. 0.61

00:28:20.080 And this is what happened in the Netherlands.

00:28:21.560 They were facing 10,000 small, medium, family-run farms

00:28:24.840 for generations being shut down.

00:28:26.720 The farmers in the Netherlands fought back,

00:28:28.520 and I think the farmers, the rest of Europe, watched what happened.

00:28:31.400 The farmers in the Netherlands formed their own political party, the BBB.

00:28:34.440 They're now a governing coalition, and they're stopping the net-zero madness.

00:28:39.280 So in Belgium, in France, in Poland, in Spain, in Sweden,

00:28:43.500 at the headquarters of the EU in Brussels,

00:28:45.760 they are letting it be known that they are not going to allow

00:28:50.160 the net-zero agenda to shut them down.

00:28:51.980 And by the way, now, the second part of your question is nitrogen.

00:28:55.220 It's insane.

00:28:56.260 And they're trying to move nitrogen down the same pedestal as they put CO2

00:29:00.380 as the worst thing warming agent.

00:29:02.480 It's like 78% of air.

00:29:03.780 I forget my high school chemistry.

00:29:05.820 It's like more than 70% of air is nitrogen.

00:29:08.420 Am I right on that?

00:29:09.760 Like, it's crazy.

00:29:10.280 I don't know how you...

00:29:11.280 Yeah.

00:29:11.680 Like, it's the most common gas,

00:29:14.420 and it's one of the lowest number elements.

00:29:18.740 It's one of the most common elements.

00:29:20.080 It's like carbon and nitrogen, carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen, and hydrogen.

00:29:24.400 That's half of the stuff.

00:29:26.820 Like, that's...

00:29:27.080 And you might as well go after H2O and go after water, go after oxygen.

00:29:30.720 Yeah.

00:29:31.460 Okay.

00:29:31.840 So what happened with nitrogen is in order...

00:29:35.180 They've demonized two things that deal with food production. 1.00

00:29:38.740 Nitrogen, which is used for fertilizer.

00:29:41.960 Now, Norman Borlaug won the Nobel Peace Prize

00:29:44.120 for his invention of the golden rice,

00:29:47.020 and part of this whole green revolution in agriculture

00:29:49.900 was based on high-yield fertilizers,

00:29:53.780 of which nitrogen is one.

00:29:55.580 The problem is...

00:29:57.000 Well, I shouldn't say the problem is,

00:29:58.140 but the catch is for the climate activists is

00:30:00.340 it produces nitrous oxide,

00:30:02.700 which is a greenhouse gas.

00:30:05.080 And this is what they're focusing on

00:30:07.500 as a way to go after our food supply.

00:30:09.820 And they have a two-pronged attack.

00:30:11.440 Don't forget about methane.

00:30:13.060 They're going after the fertilizer,

00:30:14.420 which produces the high-yield agriculture

00:30:16.300 and has fed the world for the last 60, 50, 60 years.

00:30:19.100 And they're going after methane,

00:30:22.220 which is animal agriculture and meat-eating.

00:30:24.880 That's the key thing.

00:30:26.400 And so John Kerry just announced last summer in 2023

00:30:29.720 that the U.S. agriculture

00:30:31.300 is now going to have to fall under the net zero.

00:30:34.140 In other words, a direct attack on nitrogen and methane.

00:30:37.560 And it's so insane with nitrogen

00:30:39.700 that the Scientific American last year in 2023, Ezra,

00:30:43.520 had an article about how human pee is a pollution problem.

00:30:48.600 And you might say, well, what are they talking about?

00:30:50.360 Humans are eating too much meat,

00:30:52.160 which is then coming out in our urine as nitrous oxide,

00:30:54.960 which is then causing global warming.

00:30:56.760 Oh, my God.

00:30:56.960 That's how insane this whole movement has become.

00:30:59.900 So they want to roll methane, nitrogen,

00:31:02.620 and carbon dioxide into one bundle

00:31:05.280 so that they can come after us and literally shut down.

00:31:09.020 It's not that they want to shut down

00:31:10.300 all of modern civilization.

00:31:11.580 They want to gain the levers of control

00:31:14.340 and get rid of all the small, independent,

00:31:17.440 just like in COVID,

00:31:18.520 how they crush the small businesses, the mom and pops.

00:31:20.940 They want that corporate control

00:31:22.440 because then you have corporate government collusion

00:31:24.120 and you can set global policy instantly.

00:31:26.660 You're so right.

00:31:27.900 And I'm just thinking,

00:31:28.620 I do remember from my high school chemistry,

00:31:30.720 methane is CH4.

00:31:32.460 It's such a building block molecule.

00:31:35.100 It's so common.

00:31:36.580 Methane is naturally occurring.

00:31:38.800 And imagine declaring war on that.

00:31:40.780 It would be like declaring,

00:31:42.340 almost like declaring war on water, as you said.

00:31:45.040 It's madness.

00:31:45.680 But it's actually a study,

00:31:48.600 and it was, I believe in England,

00:31:50.600 the journal PLOS in December, 2023, two months ago,

00:31:54.320 human breath contributes to global warming.

00:31:57.860 This is a peer-reviewed study.

00:31:59.640 Africans warm the air with their breath more than Asians, 1.00

00:32:02.900 and women warm the air with their breath more than men.

00:32:05.600 So it's a war against humans as well,

00:32:07.980 as well as in death's collectivity.

00:32:09.900 You know, it's absolutely crazy,

00:32:11.940 and I'm glad that the farmers of Europe are standing up.

00:32:16.540 Listen, farmers have been rebelling

00:32:17.980 in one way or another in Europe for a long time,

00:32:20.120 and there's sometimes a hodgepodge of ideas afoot.

00:32:23.520 I understood why the truckers revolted in Canada two years ago.

00:32:27.540 It was crystal clear what the crisis was,

00:32:29.740 and because we were on the scene, we could understand it.

00:32:32.200 There's a bit of a language barrier sometimes

00:32:33.980 with the European farmers,

00:32:35.180 and I know one of the issues is, for example,

00:32:37.660 dumping of cheap Ukrainian grain in Europe to help Ukraine.

00:32:42.400 And so there are some different issues afoot there.

00:32:46.140 But I tell you, the last five years,

00:32:49.420 watching the World Economic Forum,

00:32:51.620 watching the war on carbon and watching the war on nitrogen,

00:32:55.180 the war on farmers, the war on food, the war on fuel,

00:32:58.700 even though there are some unanswered questions for me

00:33:01.640 about who these farmers are and what they're fighting for,

00:33:04.220 my instincts are to side with them,

00:33:06.980 because I know the guys on the other side are the bad guys, Mark.

00:33:11.280 They absolutely are.

00:33:12.460 This is what happened in Sri Lanka, remember.

00:33:14.840 They were going to stop all modern farming

00:33:17.460 because of it was contributing to global warming.

00:33:19.800 They had the highest ESG score in the world,

00:33:22.860 and they went full organic virtually overnight

00:33:26.380 by agricultural standards within a couple years,

00:33:28.500 and the entire country's food supply collapsed.

00:33:32.080 Like a man-made potato famine.

00:33:34.480 Yes, exactly.

00:33:35.280 But they chose to do it.

00:33:36.240 They chose, and this was praised.

00:33:37.880 The World Economic Forum had feature articles about how this...

00:33:40.520 Sri Lanka's a poor country.

00:33:42.140 They can't mess around like that.

00:33:43.500 That sounds like a...

00:33:44.520 You know what?

00:33:45.080 Sometimes you see people who have sort of hobby gardens

00:33:49.280 and craft gardens, and listen, gardening is one of the best activities

00:33:52.760 out there, absolutely.

00:33:54.440 But to say, no, I'm going to replace agriculture

00:33:58.380 with my own little hand-curated urban chicken or something,

00:34:04.020 that's a rich Westerner's daydream, to impose that on Sri Lanka, 0.80

00:34:12.280 a crowded, poor, low-income country that doesn't have a lot of margin for error,

00:34:16.580 and say, guess what?

00:34:17.680 You're going full San Francisco organic.

00:34:19.840 You're going full left-wing liberal, you know, quirky Instagram farmer.

00:34:27.560 How did it resolve in Sri Lanka, by the way?

00:34:29.900 How did it end?

00:34:30.500 And I heard of the crisis.

00:34:32.160 Yes.

00:34:32.580 Well, it resolved by the peasants overrunning the presidential palace,

00:34:36.420 swimming in the pool.

00:34:37.360 The president was exiled.

00:34:39.460 And this is no joke.

00:34:40.680 The World Economic Forum scrubbed the article from their webpage

00:34:44.020 about how Sri Lanka was going to lead the world

00:34:47.540 with the net-zero agricultural policy

00:34:49.620 and how wonderful it was going to be.

00:34:50.940 They are now rejecting all of that,

00:34:54.060 and they're working back toward a stable food supply there.

00:34:57.920 The problem is no one learned the lesson.

00:35:00.800 We have Justin Trudeau imposing this on Canadian farmers.

00:35:03.540 It's spreading to Australia.

00:35:04.660 I talked to a biologist over there.

00:35:06.360 Biologist Jennifer Moriosi said it's decimating Australian agriculture.

00:35:10.800 And in the United States, you have Bill Gates,

00:35:12.540 the number one farmland owner.

00:35:14.100 Jeff Bezos, another billionaire very close behind.

00:35:16.520 You have China, Political Magazine worried about China

00:35:20.080 having an agricultural land monopoly in the United States.

00:35:23.480 They actually bought up a pork production company,

00:35:28.140 and they dominate the market in that, Chinese-owned.

00:35:31.120 So what we have here is the food supply is critical.

00:35:35.580 Just remember, the big picture here is it's the intentional collapse

00:35:38.360 and rationing of energy,

00:35:40.600 intentional collapse and rationing of plentiful food supply,

00:35:44.040 and the collapse of our freedom of movement.

00:35:48.300 They're coming after the airline travel,

00:35:50.100 France starting the flight bans at two and a half hour.

00:35:52.340 That's spreading.

00:35:53.200 The gas-powered car bans,

00:35:54.640 the BBC saying it's not a question of if but when

00:35:58.220 flying will be severely restricted due to the climate.

00:36:01.020 All of these things are happening,

00:36:02.300 as well as suspending our free speech.

00:36:04.760 But the food is the lightning point.

00:36:06.840 And the message here,

00:36:08.300 the takeaway is we need to support these farmers.

00:36:11.240 This is the greatest pushback I've seen probably in my lifetime

00:36:14.880 of the last 10 years

00:36:16.520 against this whole globalist Great Reset agenda.

00:36:20.000 These farmers aren't kidding around,

00:36:22.200 and they're not taking it anymore.

00:36:23.600 The EU's already blinking and talking about backing down

00:36:26.040 on some of the net-zero emission standards for farms,

00:36:28.820 but it's got to go way beyond that.

00:36:30.500 Wow.

00:36:30.880 You know, we have covered things in Europe before.

00:36:33.500 As you know,

00:36:33.980 we go to the World Economic Forum every January.

00:36:36.300 I think we've been three times now.

00:36:37.700 I myself have been twice.

00:36:38.600 We have sent reporters, I think, on three occasions

00:36:41.820 to cover the Dutch Farmer Rebellion.

00:36:44.760 Is this rebellion against the European Union in Brussels,

00:36:48.620 is it still going on right now?

00:36:50.480 Because if so, maybe we'll send some reporters over.

00:36:52.800 Because we do have a lot of frequent flyer points.

00:36:54.940 Our guys travel cheap and travel light.

00:36:56.780 Yeah.

00:36:56.980 Is it still going on right now?

00:36:59.060 Yeah, well, today's Thursday.

00:37:00.500 As of, like, Monday and Tuesday, it was.

00:37:02.940 I have not seen the last couple days.

00:37:04.440 But, yeah, they're barricading it.

00:37:06.340 All the tractors are out.

00:37:07.680 They have the crowds of people,

00:37:10.680 the peasants, if you will,

00:37:11.940 as the global elite likes to call us.

00:37:13.820 The masses are out there

00:37:15.300 unanimously supporting what the farmers are doing.

00:37:18.460 That's why they have the power.

00:37:20.240 It's not like the farmers are just out there alone.

00:37:22.800 And I think the EU is terrified of them.

00:37:25.160 So what we need to do is keep this going,

00:37:27.700 keep the pressure.

00:37:28.340 Because if we can have one of the,

00:37:29.760 one of this, you know,

00:37:30.840 legs of the Great Reset collapse,

00:37:32.600 the agricultural aspect,

00:37:34.280 it won't be long before we can fight back

00:37:36.060 on the transportation and the energy aspect.

00:37:38.460 Yeah, wow.

00:37:39.340 Well, I've never been to Belgium before.

00:37:41.720 I don't, I mean, I know in the Netherlands,

00:37:43.520 they almost all speak English.

00:37:44.920 Same in Germany.

00:37:46.320 My French is not very strong.

00:37:48.080 But I am, you've got me very curious.

00:37:50.220 And I love the imagery of the farmers,

00:37:52.560 especially with their manure spreaders doing that. 0.99

00:37:55.160 But that's just,

00:37:55.740 I get a real chuckle out of that every time I see that.

00:37:58.680 You know what?

00:37:59.100 I'm going to look into this a little bit more

00:38:00.300 if it's still ongoing and,

00:38:02.540 and if we can get there economically,

00:38:04.220 like using points or something,

00:38:05.940 I think maybe we should go there again.

00:38:07.460 Because I think people really enjoyed our coverage

00:38:09.140 of the Dutch farmer rebellion.

00:38:11.900 And especially if it's motivated,

00:38:14.000 I mean, I think I'd love to talk to them about

00:38:15.740 if the truckers of Canada were some sort of inspiration.

00:38:18.360 And you're planting seeds of ideas in my mind, Mark.

00:38:20.760 And I appreciate that.

00:38:21.960 Thanks for joining us as always.

00:38:23.860 And keep up the fight.

00:38:24.820 ClimateDepot.com,

00:38:26.240 really the leading clearinghouse for information

00:38:28.560 about the war on carbon

00:38:30.320 and frankly, the war on nitrogen too.

00:38:32.040 Great to see you.

00:38:33.600 Thank you, Ezra.

00:38:34.380 I appreciate it.

00:38:35.060 All right.

00:38:35.920 Stay with us.

00:38:36.740 More ahead.

00:38:48.900 Listen, Rebel News is a big organization.

00:38:50.820 We've got a lot of journalists from coast to coast,

00:38:52.420 Drea out west, Sheila in Edmonton.

00:38:54.920 We've got reporters in Calgary and Montreal.

00:38:58.280 Alexa's out there and Robert Krejcik's in Ottawa.

00:39:01.240 And I'm out here.

00:39:02.560 We've got a lot of stuff going on.

00:39:04.780 So the fact that I am focused like a laser on Bill C-63

00:39:08.180 doesn't mean we stop talking about other issues.

00:39:10.960 I think I'm going to be focused on C-63 1.00

00:39:13.060 because I guess it's my round two

00:39:15.260 against the Canadian Human Rights Commission.

00:39:17.440 You might recall that more than, I guess, about 15 years ago,

00:39:20.980 I was put through the Alberta Human Rights Commission

00:39:23.400 on that Danish cartoon business.

00:39:25.260 And then there was a complaint filed against me

00:39:27.100 at the Canadian Human Rights Commission.

00:39:29.160 They dropped it immediately.

00:39:30.640 They didn't want to battle with me.

00:39:32.060 But now they're stronger, rougher, tougher.

00:39:34.000 Trudeau's in charge.

00:39:35.440 I guess this is round two.

00:39:37.160 You know, almost 20 years later,

00:39:39.080 this is round two with the Human Rights Commissions.

00:39:41.340 I feel like it's my duty to fight back.

00:39:43.480 I feel like I have an experience

00:39:45.720 with these Human Rights Commissions

00:39:46.880 that most people don't, thank God.

00:39:48.920 I feel that my legal background,

00:39:51.120 I no longer practice as a lawyer,

00:39:52.740 but we deal with legal things every day here, obviously.

00:39:55.580 We've got smart lawyers who fight for freedom

00:39:57.480 and sometimes win.

00:39:59.340 I think this is when we have to win.

00:40:01.480 And I think it's so outrageous,

00:40:02.580 I think it's when we actually can win.

00:40:05.700 You can, we're putting together a compilation page

00:40:07.880 at stopthecensorship.ca.

00:40:10.220 You can figure out and follow all our stuff there.

00:40:13.140 I'm going to keep working on this

00:40:14.120 and keep thinking about this.

00:40:15.140 Obviously, there's other news, too,

00:40:16.320 and we do cover it.

00:40:17.400 But this is probably going to be

00:40:18.440 the top of my mind for a long time to come.

00:40:21.260 That's the show for today.

00:40:22.880 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us

00:40:24.560 here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:40:25.820 to you at home, good night.

00:40:27.540 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:40:28.620 To be continued.

Rebel News Podcast - March 01, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau wants to criminalize words, and no one is safe from his wrath

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