Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ United Kingdom starts jailing political protesters

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends, a feature interview with Lawrence Fox, very interesting character and

00:00:05.460 actor.

00:00:06.340 It's his profession and his family profession, and he's become a journalist and a broadcaster

00:00:12.680 and a political leader and a troublemaker of the good variety, the good kind of trouble.

00:00:18.960 We'll talk to him about what the heck is going on in the UK.

00:00:22.700 I want to show you some of what's going on.

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00:00:46.280 All right, here's today's podcast.

00:00:59.300 Tonight, the United Kingdom starts jailing political protesters, including two years

00:01:09.460 in prison for a man who gesticulated at police.

00:01:13.380 It's August 8th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:16.080 You're fighting for freedom!

00:01:18.960 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:22.020 You know, for centuries, the United Kingdom had a respect for civil liberties.

00:01:35.220 A lot of key philosophers of freedom come from the UK.

00:01:40.400 The greatest philosophical tract about freedom of speech, Areopagitica, it's a strange word,

00:01:47.260 but that's what it was called, is from the UK.

00:01:50.640 They were the source of literature and debate and mother of all parliaments.

00:01:54.300 But in recent decades, there's been a bit of a police state undercurrent.

00:02:00.200 I discovered, by getting to know some of the football or soccer lads, that there's something

00:02:05.420 called antisocial behavior orders, where if any people were threatening to become unruly,

00:02:12.820 they could be issued an order to disperse, kicked out of a pub, kicked out of a soccer

00:02:18.140 stadium, not having done anything yet.

00:02:20.600 It was an attempt to deal with the phenomenon of football hooliganism, but the way they did

00:02:26.660 so really undermined a lot of freedom of association, freedom of assembly, and freedom of speech.

00:02:31.500 I don't know, maybe it was acceptable if it was just on the football lads, but those same

00:02:36.400 football lads have a political expression, too.

00:02:38.920 The UK also, probably per capita, has the most spy cameras anywhere in the world, other

00:02:46.540 than maybe communist China.

00:02:48.820 And there's a real surveillance culture there, tied right into police and, of course, these

00:02:54.620 antisocial behavior orders.

00:02:56.680 They have things called non-crime hate incidents.

00:03:01.480 And that's, of course, if you do something on Facebook or Twitter or say something that's

00:03:06.240 not really a crime, the police will still come to your house.

00:03:09.820 You saw that clip we had of Konstantin Kissen the other day, talking about comparing the

00:03:14.840 number of people arrested in Vladimir Putin's Russia for saying something on the internet

00:03:20.440 versus in the UK.

00:03:22.160 Remember this clip?

00:03:23.100 In Russia last year, 400 people were arrested for things that they said on social media.

00:03:28.940 400 people in Russia.

00:03:30.460 Obviously, this country is very different.

00:03:31.980 How many people do you think were arrested in Britain for things they said on social

00:03:34.980 media last year?

00:03:36.720 Go on.

00:03:37.240 Take a guess.

00:03:37.980 I have no idea.

00:03:38.720 3,300.

00:03:40.140 Really?

00:03:40.940 Arrested for what they said on social media?

00:03:43.560 Really?

00:03:43.980 What sort of things get you arrested?

00:03:45.380 Well, one example I give in my show is there was a young woman from Liverpool called Chelsea

00:03:50.360 Russell.

00:03:50.920 Her friend was killed in a car crash, a 19-year-old woman.

00:03:53.240 And she posted the lyrics of his favourite song on her Instagram, the lyrics.

00:03:59.240 And it was a rap song, so the lyrics contained several instances of the N-word.

00:04:03.760 Okay?

00:04:04.340 She was arrested, prosecuted, found guilty, given 500 hours of community service and a

00:04:10.780 fine, tagged, and for a year she was under 8pm to 8am curfew. 1.00

00:04:17.740 My goodness.

00:04:19.060 In Britain.

00:04:20.200 In Britain.

00:04:20.900 In 2018.

00:04:22.080 Well, as we saw yesterday, the police have positively said they have officers scouring

00:04:26.980 the internet for hurty words.

00:04:29.740 Add to that the concept of the 15-minute cities, where you're being spied on, not just for your

00:04:35.600 non-crime hate incidents, but did you use too much carbon?

00:04:39.520 Are you driving further than you're allowed to do?

00:04:42.780 And just general life, I think in some ways it's even more heavily regulated than in Canada.

00:04:47.960 There's something over there called Ofcom, which is their version of our CRTC, the TV and radio

00:04:53.900 regulator.

00:04:54.640 And it's a pain in the neck in Canada, believe you me.

00:04:57.180 They're what killed Sun News Network.

00:04:59.480 But over there in the UK, you can complain about any particular show, about any particular

00:05:06.420 TV interview, if you thought it was fair or not fair enough.

00:05:10.700 And they'll literally have a government investigation into literally a particular interview.

00:05:17.580 And they'll make orders to the TV.

00:05:19.720 It's really crazy.

00:05:21.480 They still on the TV, they have a license fee that pays for the BBC.

00:05:27.560 In Canada, the CBC just scoops it right out of the taxes.

00:05:31.220 But in the UK, you have to pay a license fee.

00:05:35.200 And there's vans, I'm not making this up, vans that drive around trying to detect if you're

00:05:40.740 accessing the BBC television but not paying your license fee.

00:05:45.200 People have actually been prosecuted for that.

00:05:47.540 I just, I don't even know how they do it in the age of the internet, but they do.

00:05:51.740 The UK used to have a very light touch.

00:05:54.720 It was said that a law-abiding Brit could go his entire life without having any touch

00:06:01.400 point with a police officer.

00:06:02.860 Well, that's over now.

00:06:05.240 Orwell detected some of this in the DNA of the United Kingdom when he wrote his books,

00:06:10.600 including 1994, which was written more than 70 years ago.

00:06:15.720 Well, now the UK's gone nuts.

00:06:17.540 They were bad enough under the Rishi Sunak half-conservatives, but they're just nuts today.

00:06:24.120 As we saw in yesterday's clip, merely insulting people that could cause feelings of hatred.

00:06:31.340 That's now an arrestable crime.

00:06:33.640 I suppose we have something like that in Canada, too.

00:06:36.040 They were threatening to charge our truck with creating bad feelings or something.

00:06:42.020 They're talking about having a standing army.

00:06:44.660 They don't mean actual military soldiers, but a standing army, policing protests.

00:06:50.260 And they're literally talking about banning social media, or at least just, you know, two

00:06:55.280 weeks to flatten the curve.

00:06:56.320 They've gone nuts.

00:06:57.400 They've gone absolutely nuts.

00:06:59.260 And they've all gone nuts together, by all together.

00:07:01.740 I mean, the entire establishment.

00:07:03.000 And I don't know.

00:07:05.820 I don't think it's done yet.

00:07:07.300 And I think it's just getting started.

00:07:09.560 Here's a guy I think they're going to arrest.

00:07:13.100 This is my feature interview today with Lawrence Fox.

00:07:16.640 Take a look.

00:07:17.240 Well, when we started Rebel News nine years ago, we were very focused on Canada.

00:07:28.840 It made sense.

00:07:29.380 We were all Canadians.

00:07:30.760 But at Sun News, previously, I had gotten to know a little bit through interviews, Tommy

00:07:36.700 Robinson.

00:07:37.540 It was difficult to reach out to him because I was scared.

00:07:40.300 Everything I could find about the guy online said that he was racist and even anti-Semitic.

00:07:44.740 And that didn't sit well with me.

00:07:46.420 So the very first question I asked him in my first interview back on Sun News was, are

00:07:51.880 you a racist?

00:07:52.840 And I sort of knew he wasn't, but I just thought I'd better check.

00:07:56.980 Well, here we are 10 years later.

00:07:58.160 I know for a fact he's not racist.

00:08:00.260 In fact, first time I ever met the lad, when we hired him at Rebel News, he came in with his

00:08:06.740 best friend since childhood who happened to be black.

00:08:09.260 That's how it is when you're from Luton Town, one of the most racially diverse places in

00:08:14.140 the UK.

00:08:15.300 We've been following Tommy, his crusade against child rape gangs in the UK, how his journalism

00:08:22.400 has brought upon him censorship.

00:08:24.980 And we've covered his last two mega rallies in London.

00:08:30.360 Alex LaVoie represented us on June 1st and July 27th.

00:08:34.900 One of the men who shared the stage with Tommy Robinson is our guest today.

00:08:38.940 His name is Lawrence Fox.

00:08:39.840 He's an actor, he's a journalist, he's a political activist.

00:08:43.140 And I have to say, he could be targeted by the government in the UK for their extreme

00:08:50.660 attempts to stop people from criticizing government policy on many of these issues.

00:08:56.800 Joining us now is Lawrence Fox.

00:08:58.340 Lawrence, great to see you again.

00:08:59.300 Thanks for taking the time.

00:09:01.580 Thanks for having me, Ezra.

00:09:02.680 I think you're right.

00:09:03.380 Well, the Times did a hit piece when it was written by Hope Not Hate that, well, Hate

00:09:10.060 Not Hope is what it should be called.

00:09:11.700 And I think I'm number two on the government's hit list at the moment.

00:09:14.620 Yeah.

00:09:14.740 I believe that because you have a devil may care attitude.

00:09:19.200 I mean, there's something about your style I get a real kick of.

00:09:22.640 I mean, even tiny things like smoking in an interview.

00:09:26.020 By the way, I love it.

00:09:27.320 But I think you're the kind of person that the government would love to arrest because

00:09:33.260 you're a kind of lightning rod and you have rivals and you have people who are mad at you

00:09:39.180 anyway.

00:09:39.640 So if they arrested you, they would get a lot of people who would cheer that and, you

00:09:45.960 know, you're an indigenous Brit, so you have no race card to play in the game of politically

00:09:52.200 correct poker.

00:09:54.480 And they've arrested you before, haven't they, over COVID matters.

00:09:57.620 Am I right?

00:09:59.120 They didn't arrest me over COVID.

00:10:01.060 They arrested me over U-Layers.

00:10:03.720 And I think they just stopped.

00:10:05.560 They stopped the investigation.

00:10:06.560 Nine months, they took all of my devices, my kids' devices, everything.

00:10:11.500 They locked me up in a cell for a day.

00:10:14.580 And they just, you know, the police like to intimidate and harass and bully in Britain,

00:10:18.800 certainly the Met police.

00:10:19.900 So I left London.

00:10:21.840 I didn't feel safe in London.

00:10:23.360 So I've moved to a somewhere very far away, which was good.

00:10:28.280 Just for our Canadian viewers, U-Las stands for ultra low emission zones, or as they're sometimes

00:10:33.440 called here 15-minute cities in the UK, they have all these spy cameras.

00:10:38.320 And you also have people called Blade Runners who sneak out at night with buzz saws, hacksaws,

00:10:44.240 and bring them down.

00:10:44.860 It's quite dramatic.

00:10:46.040 And yeah, Lawrence, I want to talk about the current craziness in the UK.

00:10:49.680 You were there on June 1st and July 27th at these massive, peaceful, patriotic rallies,

00:10:56.780 family rallies, no violence, lots of, I'd call it a festival feeling even, tons of flags.

00:11:04.600 And from that to the darkness we've seen over the last few days, rioting, arson, you see,

00:11:12.860 you know, I really believe you have two-tier policing in the UK.

00:11:16.780 You can almost guarantee that if it is an indigenous Brit who's getting into fisticuffs, he's going 1.00

00:11:22.640 to be arrested and there'll be a big press release about it.

00:11:25.820 But if there is a newcomer, if there's a Muslim activist, the Muslim Defense League, police

00:11:32.760 will say, oh, well, we've talked to the community and they're going to manage themselves.

00:11:36.160 I really have never seen such a bifurcation, such a dichotomy in policing.

00:11:41.420 It's almost as if they really do check the color of your skin before they decide what to

00:11:45.600 do with you.

00:11:46.120 They do.

00:11:48.440 And it's incredibly terrifying, actually, because it's happened so, I mean, look, we've

00:11:54.940 all been seeing what's happening across the West as the West, you know, breathes its last

00:12:00.140 breaths.

00:12:01.540 That, but you, what's that Hemingway line from The Sun Also Rises about going bankrupt that

00:12:09.180 Vix David Sampson says all the time, you go bankrupt slowly and then very, very quickly.

00:12:13.180 And Britain has gone bankrupt very, very quickly into an authoritarian state, not dissimilar

00:12:19.700 from what Joe Biden did in terms of the US situation.

00:12:24.800 So Keir Starmer presented himself as a very normal guy and I just, everything's normal and

00:12:30.520 don't worry, nothing's going to be too serious.

00:12:32.700 And then the minute he gets into power, he turns into absolute authoritarian despot straight

00:12:38.520 away and he, and he's not a man of courage and he's not a man of, he's not a man of conviction,

00:12:43.560 but he is a man of the law.

00:12:45.120 He, he has a long, long history as the head of the Crown Prosecution Service.

00:12:48.860 So we're being run by a lawyer and America might be run by a lawyer soon if Kamala Harris or 1.00

00:12:54.420 want to be lawyer if Kamala Harris gets in. 1.00

00:12:56.960 It's terrifying.

00:12:58.140 It's the first time I'm being contacted daily by people who are absolutely terrified and,

00:13:02.900 you know, middle of the road people, because we're policing what people say.

00:13:06.820 And that's, that's a very, very dangerous road to go down.

00:13:09.420 You know, it's, it's crazy because, listen, everyone can use harsh language.

00:13:16.020 It's, the police went to extreme lengths over the last 10 months.

00:13:19.980 Whenever they heard Allah Akbar or jihad or globalize the intifada or from the river to 0.55

00:13:26.340 the sea, they turned themselves into pretzels saying, no, no, no, you have to understand in

00:13:30.820 the right context, that's a peaceful jihad.

00:13:32.800 They mean, it means a struggle with themselves.

00:13:35.520 You know, they, there was no words from the Islamist left that would arouse the police 0.99

00:13:41.860 to action for a hate crime and a thought crime.

00:13:44.260 And by the way, I myself don't support thought crimes.

00:13:47.680 I mean, there were enough real crimes being committed.

00:13:50.340 You don't have to go after a verbal crime, but with, let me give you an example.

00:13:55.160 Here's a lad, he's in his fifties from the UK jurisdiction of Cleveland.

00:14:01.940 It's not just Cleveland, Ohio.

00:14:03.520 There's a Cleveland in the UK, their Twitter feed is posting all the people they've arrested.

00:14:09.860 And I don't know how this works, Lawrence.

00:14:11.420 They were only arrested a day or two ago.

00:14:13.300 They've already been tried, convicted and sentenced here in Canada.

00:14:18.340 There would be weeks or months.

00:14:19.720 They would have police document disclosure.

00:14:22.260 They would hire a lawyer and they would like, I've just never heard of these drumhead trials. 1.00

00:14:26.800 But this one guy, they jailed him for 26 months, more than two years for shouting at and gesticulating.

00:14:36.860 That means waving your arms at police.

00:14:40.200 How, how is that even a crime?

00:14:43.740 There are rape gang members in the UK who have raped dozens of girls, hundreds of times, who get a quicker sentence than the great gesticulator.

00:14:56.140 I find it shocking.

00:14:57.540 It's a, yeah, I do too.

00:15:00.880 It's a, it's a, it's a, it's an attempt by the police and by the Crown Prosecutors and the regime to, to look like they're tough on crime.

00:15:10.300 But the problem is the UK prison system is hugely overcrowded anyway.

00:15:14.380 Anyway, the murderer, the machete murderer of a young man who was convicted is being released after only six months to make space for these gesticulators.

00:15:26.280 And Parliament is sat silent.

00:15:28.620 So Parliament hasn't even been recalled.

00:15:30.660 This is, I mean, anyone who, I thought during COVID things were bad, you know, in terms of government overreach.

00:15:37.840 And I thought that the Conservatives didn't in any way try and conserve anything like individual liberty.

00:15:42.640 But these summary trials and, and, you know, convictions and sentences are a sign of what is to come once we open the doors to policing political opinion and policing people's views.

00:15:56.960 And Cleveland police sort of get so thrilled about all this stuff.

00:16:02.380 While the, the families of the three girls massacred last week, which has sparked these current disturbances, they're going to have to wait till January for justice.

00:16:12.640 For their daughters and the 11 maimed by this psychopath, they're going to have to wait till January.

00:16:18.620 So you, you, the one thing that keeps a liberal democracy functioning is the idea that the law and justice is blind and, and that, you know, will be applied equally to all.

00:16:30.500 It's foundational cornerstone wrong with freedom of speech to liberal democracy.

00:16:34.340 And we've just seen it decimated, utterly, utterly decimated in about the shortest period of time, you know, ever.

00:16:41.220 And you, you listen to Keir Starmer's speech.

00:16:44.460 He gave a speech about this.

00:16:46.180 And I was thinking he's going to try and mollify people.

00:16:48.220 He's going to try and bring people back together, but he doubled down.

00:16:50.780 And so there's nothing worse than a weak, weak authoritarian, a cowardly, afraid authoritarian, of which he is one.

00:16:58.620 He probably jailed me for saying that.

00:17:00.560 Well, I'm, I don't, I wish it doesn't happen.

00:17:03.780 I hope it doesn't happen.

00:17:05.080 But I, I'm sorry to say it.

00:17:07.920 I think they will arrest you.

00:17:09.760 The, the number of times that the, from the prime minister on down to the head of public prosecutions, to the, to Rowley himself of the Met police and all other police that I've seen online, it's universal.

00:17:22.900 They're not just going after actual rioters.

00:17:25.360 They went after the great gesticulator.

00:17:27.320 I mean, God forbid you're, you're a mime or you're using sign language. 0.65

00:17:30.960 That's a crime now.

00:17:31.880 But you have a big following online.

00:17:35.020 Tommy Robinson, obviously.

00:17:36.040 I, I'm surprised they haven't dropped, you know, special forces down to arrest them.

00:17:41.700 I mean, I, I bet you MI6 has more people tracking Tommy Robinson than any jihadists right now.

00:17:46.580 I'm surprised they haven't arrested them yet.

00:17:48.580 They have so emphasized people on Twitter and Twitter in particular, because they hate Elon Musk.

00:17:54.940 Elon Musk used some of the language that you and Tommy Robinson have used.

00:18:00.420 The phrase two-tier cure, cure being cure Starman, the prime minister, two-tier cure being two-tier justice, two-tier policing, obviously two-tier media.

00:18:11.360 I think Elon Musk, I mean, he's a big and powerful guy and maybe he knows what he's doing.

00:18:16.900 We've seen him fight with other politicians before, like in Brazil, he took on a crusading judge and Nicholas Maduro.

00:18:24.280 But those are sort of small potatoes compared to taking on the United Kingdom.

00:18:29.000 The United Kingdom is still a great, powerful country.

00:18:33.480 And I, I think that they would arrest Elon Musk if they could.

00:18:38.100 Good luck.

00:18:39.400 They're the most incompetent bunch of people in the world.

00:18:42.600 The, the, the police have become the Stasi in the UK.

00:18:45.500 They, they, I mean, I'm yet to find out what my local police force is like.

00:18:49.380 No one's come to visit me yet, which is a relief.

00:18:51.180 But, um, no, no, the, the, the police, I think that what Elon Musk has done, which is so dangerous, is that he's given a voice to all of those people that feel and have felt for many, many years that there is no fairness in the society that we live in.

00:19:06.420 That, as you quite rightly say, minority groups, they will turn themselves in, into, tie themselves in knots trying to explain why from the river to the sea doesn't mean the complete obliteration of the Jews. 1.00

00:19:17.780 They'll say, oh, no, it's just like a nice song or, you know, Houthis, Houthis, make us proud, turn another ship around. 0.99

00:19:24.840 No, that's not about missiling, uh, civil, you know, merchant navies and attacking people and injuring sailors.

00:19:30.540 It's just, it's just a song.

00:19:32.000 It's a protest song.

00:19:33.260 They've turned themselves, uh, tied themselves in knots for this for years.

00:19:36.920 And what Elon Musk has done, actually, you know, you can say whatever you want about him.

00:19:41.120 He has incredible instincts and he knew straight away that something big was happening in the UK.

00:19:48.520 We all in the UK knew that something big was going to happen because, you know, the Conservative government let us down so dreadfully that in the United Kingdom, we just give the other team a go.

00:19:59.160 That's what happened.

00:19:59.800 So they go, well, just give Labour a go.

00:20:01.220 Um, but Labour, we're already bearing the fruits now of what bled in, in 97, certainly with Ofcom, which is what they want to use to shut us down, to shut Twitter down.

00:20:12.840 Um, if they do, they will be making again another dreadful mistake because if you do not deal with the causation of the problem and you only deal with the symptoms of the problem, the symptoms being the current disturbances in the United Kingdom, they're going to get worse.

00:20:28.180 And that's just logical. And that, you know, someone would say, oh, that's hate speech or incitement.

00:20:33.280 It's not. It's just pointing out that the logical conclusion of not dealing with causation.

00:20:38.240 And the causation is that our border has been open and we're not a big country like America.

00:20:42.660 Then, you know, America's got major problems absorbing, uh, you know, the 10 to 12, 15 million migrants that they've witnessed in the last 10 years. 0.96

00:20:50.360 We are absorbing a million a year, pretty much.

00:20:53.780 But our public services are not improving. People's lives are not getting better.

00:20:57.200 Uh, you know, the people are being, uh, the central hotel in, in many, many towns in Great Britain where people will go for tourists is now housing migrants who are paid for. 0.99

00:21:08.420 It's free. They then leave their hotels.

00:21:10.660 And because of cultural reasons, they go to local schools.

00:21:14.500 They follow young girls home from local schools.

00:21:17.040 There's many, many, many examples.

00:21:18.820 As you say, this stuff, when it becomes more entrenched, leads to child rape gangs.

00:21:23.340 And the British public are absolutely sick to death of it.

00:21:28.760 And, um, Elon Musk has given them a voice.

00:21:32.220 And the problem with that voice is it's enormous.

00:21:35.100 And, and the government have absolutely no idea what to do with it.

00:21:38.340 Because as you said, this rally on the 1st and rally on the 27th, the rally on the 27th had 100,000 people.

00:21:43.780 The rally on the 1st had 20,000 people.

00:21:45.380 And the next rally that we're organizing, which we're currently in the process of organizing, will be attended by millions.

00:21:51.320 And the government will have no idea what to do.

00:21:53.980 I, I remember the June 1st rally.

00:21:57.180 We had Alexa Lavoie over there. 1.00

00:21:58.700 She actually had a brief message on the stage.

00:22:01.600 900,000 people were watching concurrently live on Twitter.

00:22:05.920 That was larger than any broadcast of BBC or any other channel at the time.

00:22:11.380 I saw some stats that Tommy Robinson alone is having 50 million views on his tweets while he was just on a family vacation the other day.

00:22:23.500 That's exactly the thing is, it's very interesting.

00:22:27.740 I mean, the UK has a very vibrant newspaper culture.

00:22:32.240 Fleet Street is a phrase that, you know, it's rambunctious, the tabloid culture, the aggressive competition amongst the tabs is famous.

00:22:44.080 I mean, and they do extraordinary things to get a scoop over their rivals, the phone hacking scandal from a while back.

00:22:49.940 These people compete fiercely.

00:22:51.940 And yet, they all had identical front pages.

00:22:56.040 All of them, the same photograph of an anti-racist protest, almost word for word, the same headline.

00:23:06.040 I've never seen bloodthirsty rivals public, like, did they get a memo or something?

00:23:13.180 And I don't know, I just, the unanimity of the entire establishment, including the Daily Mail, which I enjoy reading because it's scrappy and populist and sometimes conservative.

00:23:22.040 Like, I don't think there's a single outlet that, certainly not a newspaper, that is even giving airtime to the other side.

00:23:32.040 And I don't know, I think people, I think that's why Twitter X is so important to this whole thing.

00:23:38.640 If it were gone, no one would know what's going on.

00:23:42.160 You couldn't organize huge rallies.

00:23:44.320 And things like the rape gangs would be covered up again, as they were by the legacy media.

00:23:51.560 Yes.

00:23:52.660 As someone quite rightly pointed out earlier today on the media, that the last time every single front page of every single bought and paid for, downline legacy media channel was the same was during the cold season of 2020.

00:24:06.280 So, this is definitely paid for by the government.

00:24:10.780 The hit piece done on myself and, you know, you look at Nigel Farage and he's desperately trying to run away from this situation because he's not, because he's mainly self-serving, it would be his biggest problem.

00:24:23.140 But even he, the Times ran an entire piece labelling us as the people that are responsible for inciting violence in the United Kingdom.

00:24:31.740 Not one of us has mentioned violence, ever.

00:24:35.100 Every single one of us has condoned it.

00:24:37.640 So, the narrative that the media are trying to spin, which is very worryingly uniform.

00:24:45.740 I think this idea of the great British press, you know, going out for the schools, Millie Dowler being a really important example, actually.

00:24:52.540 That's the media of yesteryear.

00:24:54.400 Whereas Vestia, now, that's what the British media is. 1.00

00:24:58.060 And the British media are in collusion with the government.

00:25:02.660 So, you have the military-industrial complex and then you have the government-media complex.

00:25:07.060 And the media complex, the government-media complex in the United Kingdom, as it was across the West during COVID, is absolutely entrenched.

00:25:15.180 And I don't even know who they're talking to anymore.

00:25:17.660 Because I have not met a 16-year-old, my son is 16, so I've not met a single one of his friends who has ever, I mean, a lot of them have never heard of the BBC.

00:25:26.900 Yeah.

00:25:27.380 But these new, you know, the phone companies are also sort of slightly colluding, these news notification apps.

00:25:34.420 They're telling me, my youngest son said to me something, he said, you know, what's going on with all the far-right people?

00:25:40.180 And he said, he's not really picked it up, but he's getting shoved this narrative all the time.

00:25:44.860 And I'm like, the far-right people are the people saying protest peacefully.

00:25:47.920 In the main, there are some far-right people, which we don't like.

00:25:50.800 And then it's actually the authoritarian, censorious left, which take every tragedy, like the death of three young, innocent children, at the hands of a man we know nothing about at the moment.

00:26:04.080 And they turn it around to use it as an opportunity for a greater power grab on our speech.

00:26:09.160 And I think it's an absolute tragedy, actually.

00:26:12.100 And we should all wake up.

00:26:16.560 Because if we don't, this is the very, very beginning of what is going, what has been played up many times before across the globe with many, many dead people.

00:26:26.600 Yeah.

00:26:27.520 I want to show a video clip.

00:26:29.580 It's very interesting.

00:26:30.420 It's of a labor party counselor, local counselor.

00:26:35.020 His name is Ricky Jones.

00:26:36.880 And he was at one of these government-approved anti-hate rallies.

00:26:42.720 And he took the microphone.

00:26:43.860 And I'm going to play the clip.

00:26:44.780 And I'm going to show the lady standing right next to him, by the way, is wearing an Amnesty International vest. 0.59

00:26:51.000 And you can see there's no British flag.

00:26:55.900 So you can see Palestinian flags.

00:26:58.500 You can see smash fascism and racism, sort of the prefab flag.

00:27:02.560 So this is an official sanctioned event.

00:27:05.260 He is with the Labor Party.

00:27:07.420 You're going to hear him talking about how he expresses his anti-hate.

00:27:12.260 But besides the shocking video I'm going to show you, this is an official gathering.

00:27:17.460 There were other media there.

00:27:18.620 It's only because this went viral on X that anyone said, whoa, this guy went too far.

00:27:23.420 This is how they are.

00:27:25.220 And when the regime media sees this, they just turn a blind eye.

00:27:29.320 This only came to light because of social media.

00:27:32.140 Here, play the clip.

00:27:32.780 Take a look.

00:27:34.640 We've got children and women using those trains to sue him to some morality. 1.00

00:27:40.400 They are disgusting, nasty facts.

00:27:43.420 And we need to cut all their bones and get rid of the road. 0.97

00:27:46.440 So the biggest applause line he got was when he said, we need to cut all their throats.

00:28:09.800 And I couldn't quite make it out if in his list of hated people, if Zionist was on the list.

00:28:16.340 I know it has been for some of the other anti-hate rallies.

00:28:20.220 That wasn't a rogue statement.

00:28:22.300 That guy was not out of sync with his movement.

00:28:25.160 He was a leader of it.

00:28:26.760 That's what finally got people around him to cheer and applaud.

00:28:29.420 We have to cut their throats, he said.

00:28:32.680 Now, he actually later today was grudgingly arrested by the authorities.

00:28:37.980 But he was an authority.

00:28:39.820 And that is how they feel.

00:28:41.840 You saw it.

00:28:42.420 They applauded this guy.

00:28:43.340 This wasn't said in the dark by some nobody.

00:28:46.100 That's a Labour city councillor.

00:28:47.780 Yeah, it's, I mean, look, can I start by saying it gives me absolutely no joy?

00:28:54.860 Because I think that what pathetic little weasels like that do is they play to the crowd. 1.00

00:29:00.700 So I don't think that he really meant what he said.

00:29:05.460 But according to Tutik here, we live in a one-tier justice system in the United Kingdom.

00:29:12.320 So that is incitement to mass murder.

00:29:16.020 And therefore, according to the Home Office statistics, sorry, Home Office sentencing guidelines,

00:29:21.040 he's facing seven years in jail.

00:29:22.920 And myself and the Bad Law Project, which I run as part of the suite of things that we do

00:29:29.460 to try and stop this country falling to pieces,

00:29:31.580 is we are going to make sure that this guy is absolutely put right in jail

00:29:37.940 for the longest period of time.

00:29:39.820 Again, I say it with sadness that we are policing speech.

00:29:44.120 I don't think speech should be policed.

00:29:45.500 I do think incitement to violence is a bad thing.

00:29:47.280 But I think it needs to be looked at in the right way.

00:29:51.520 If it hadn't been for X, if it hadn't been social media,

00:29:55.800 he would not have faced any sanctioned murder.

00:30:00.100 Well, Lawrence, here's the question.

00:30:01.580 I mean, Tommy Robinson, I think, is the number one targeted guy,

00:30:06.700 even though I have, I mean, I've known him for 10 years.

00:30:09.400 I've watched him.

00:30:09.980 He's always talked about being peaceful, not just for ethical reasons,

00:30:13.040 but for practical reasons.

00:30:15.500 If, quote, our side gets violent, it'll be used against us forever

00:30:19.940 in a way that violence on the left is forgiven.

00:30:22.720 Let me ask you, how is this going to end?

00:30:24.400 Is this new level of tyranny going to be the new normal in the UK,

00:30:27.940 or will Brits rise up?

00:30:29.400 Well, we've already seen that Brits are fed up with our marches

00:30:34.400 and with our celebrations.

00:30:36.200 You quite rightly label them as celebrations.

00:30:38.320 They were celebrations of the things that make Britain great,

00:30:42.160 which seemed to upset the establishment.

00:30:45.180 It was no accident, I think, that after the 1st of June,

00:30:49.260 that Nigel Farage, out of nowhere,

00:30:51.200 announced that he was going to stand as an MP for Clacton.

00:30:53.260 This was not planned, I know all of the people inside that party.

00:30:56.720 He saw the sheer volume of people that standing up against his staff.

00:31:02.340 The 27th was enormous.

00:31:04.320 We're going to put people on the streets in their millions,

00:31:06.840 but we have to do it, as you quite rightly point out,

00:31:09.340 we have to do it peacefully and well organised.

00:31:11.140 And the key to that is good communication with the police

00:31:13.240 and well stewarded.

00:31:15.100 These snap protests are difficult for the police.

00:31:19.180 I understand people's anger, but I think Keir Starmer thinks

00:31:22.300 that yesterday in the front pages of all these lying newspapers

00:31:24.920 think that yesterday was a victory for them.

00:31:27.920 And I really sense that they need to think again

00:31:30.200 because these resentments run so deep.

00:31:35.040 They run deep over 13 years.

00:31:38.000 One of the reasons I left London was because London

00:31:40.140 is unrecognisable as a British city.

00:31:42.800 The only thing that makes London London is the architecture.

00:31:45.880 You drive out from London to where I live now

00:31:48.600 and it is not in any way remotely British.

00:31:51.800 You are lucky to see a single British person. 1.00

00:31:56.120 And they are building and building and building

00:31:58.260 these high-rise little rabbit hutches

00:32:00.020 that they're going to stick in the immigrant population 0.99

00:32:02.380 who is going to prop up our economy in a fake way.

00:32:05.800 And the British people, those that don't live in London,

00:32:07.920 don't live in the cities, which are where these problems are arising,

00:32:11.180 they will rise up because they have a home to protect.

00:32:13.840 And as I say at these rallies, every single time I speak at these rallies,

00:32:17.360 I say, this is our home.

00:32:19.220 We have nowhere else to go.

00:32:20.900 Uncontrolled immigration and the multicultural utopian experiment 1.00

00:32:24.360 has utterly failed.

00:32:26.420 And if you have a different ideology to us,

00:32:28.380 we cannot have regressive ideologies on the streets of this country.

00:32:31.540 If you have different ideologies to us,

00:32:33.340 go and find a country where it's tolerated.

00:32:34.760 All right, we'll leave it there.

00:32:37.020 Lawrence Fox, actor, journalist, politician, broadcaster,

00:32:41.220 and public speaker at big rallies.

00:32:43.700 I'll try and make it myself to the next one.

00:32:45.740 We always have a rebel journalist there.

00:32:47.840 Take care, stay safe, and we'll look forward to news from you.

00:32:52.660 See you later.

00:32:53.300 Right on.

00:32:54.200 There you have it, Lawrence Fox.

00:32:55.740 Stay with us.

00:32:56.760 More ahead.

00:32:57.220 Hey, welcome back.

00:33:09.840 Your letters to me, Deshan Shathura,

00:33:13.800 says, I hope nothing goes wrong for the driver.

00:33:16.600 You're talking about that car in Toronto that was swarmed,

00:33:19.800 and then he drove away.

00:33:20.740 He didn't drive over people.

00:33:22.140 He bumped someone, sure.

00:33:23.400 You say, I hope nothing goes wrong for the driver.

00:33:25.980 If something happens,

00:33:27.400 he should sue the police for not taking action

00:33:29.140 against the morons who blocked the street.

00:33:31.540 Well, hey, welcome to Toronto,

00:33:33.640 and welcome to Canada in 2024.

00:33:35.960 There is a national crime wave.

00:33:38.400 Obviously, it's worse in the big cities like Toronto,

00:33:40.960 Montreal, and Vancouver, but it's everywhere.

00:33:44.080 I'm a Leaf says,

00:33:45.040 I am so tired of leaders that do nothing

00:33:47.100 but attend parties and summits.

00:33:49.960 Me too, and I don't know exactly

00:33:52.320 what you're writing about.

00:33:53.520 It could apply to almost everyone.

00:33:56.540 In the last little week or two, though,

00:33:59.780 you had Justin Trudeau jetting with his family

00:34:02.320 to Tofino for a luxury surfing vacation

00:34:05.140 while the town of Jasper goes up in flames.

00:34:09.160 You have, oh, what's his name?

00:34:11.260 Mark Holland, the health minister,

00:34:13.120 who scolded Canadians about going on car trips

00:34:16.200 with their family,

00:34:17.320 jets to the Olympics with his own family.

00:34:19.860 I have no problem with people taking holidays.

00:34:23.640 Sometimes I think if Trudeau took more holidays,

00:34:26.040 he would do less damage to the country,

00:34:28.120 but these are the people who scold you

00:34:30.020 for using too much carbon yourself.

00:34:33.740 I don't know.

00:34:34.420 I think that when it comes to actual problems

00:34:36.880 in the country,

00:34:37.660 a lot of leftists in particular

00:34:39.120 don't know how to actually do anything.

00:34:41.500 Like, I've been just absolutely stupefied

00:34:43.940 to watch how the city of Calgary,

00:34:45.740 which is a city of doers.

00:34:48.060 It's a city of science and technology

00:34:50.480 and action and entrepreneurship

00:34:52.020 and problem solving.

00:34:54.140 How that useless city hall,

00:34:56.440 half of whom were elected

00:34:57.540 for demographic tokenistic reasons,

00:35:01.260 doesn't know how to fix a water main.

00:35:03.000 It's been months now.

00:35:04.540 But they're very good at making declarations

00:35:06.600 and having very important conferences.

00:35:09.680 Scurvy Dog says,

00:35:11.060 As a Canadian who has traveled the world,

00:35:13.580 I will say I now feel more comfortable

00:35:15.020 in Detroit than Toronto.

00:35:18.080 I just spent three weeks in the U.S.

00:35:19.460 and really noticed our homelessness

00:35:20.540 and drug issues when I came home.

00:35:22.460 Canada has become a disgrace.

00:35:24.880 I can't actually disagree with you there.

00:35:27.700 I probably would have two or three years ago,

00:35:30.020 but everywhere you go,

00:35:31.980 and it's not just big cities for this one,

00:35:34.140 it's smaller cities too.

00:35:35.500 You have homeless living by the side of the road,

00:35:38.460 under an overpass.

00:35:39.380 I really feel like things have taken a dark turn

00:35:42.200 just in the last couple of years.

00:35:44.800 I think Pierre Polyev has to start speaking

00:35:46.900 more firmly about immigration,

00:35:49.560 stopping the insanity.

00:35:51.260 We're at 2 million people a year.

00:35:52.900 A blink of an eye ago,

00:35:54.640 it was a fraction of that.

00:35:56.800 You know, here's a stat I told you the other day,

00:35:58.540 766,000 temporary foreign workers in Canada.

00:36:02.760 Total number of unemployed people

00:36:04.380 between 15 and 24 Canadian citizens,

00:36:07.140 350,000.

00:36:08.080 So you literally could wipe out youth unemployment

00:36:12.180 if you remove this unfairly low-cost

00:36:17.640 foreign labor force.

00:36:19.420 And I'm not saying that every single kid

00:36:21.260 would naturally fit into temporary foreign workers,

00:36:23.320 but don't tell me Canadian kids 1.00

00:36:24.920 can't work at Tim Hortons.

00:36:26.640 And if Tim Hortons has to pay an extra dollar an hour

00:36:29.140 for Canadian kids,

00:36:30.260 that's a price I'm willing to have them pay.

00:36:32.360 That's our show for today.

00:36:35.320 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here

00:36:37.140 at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:36:38.200 to you at home, good night.

00:36:39.740 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:36:40.780 Thank you.

00:36:40.920 Thank you.

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Rebel News Podcast - August 08, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ United Kingdom starts jailing political protesters

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