Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ When does media say speech is violence; and when do they say violence is speech？

00:00:00.160 Hello, my Rebels. I want to show you an incredible video of Democrat Party activists stalking and harassing a female senator who happens to be a Democrat, too, chasing her into a bathroom, hounding her, a U.S. senator, because she won't spend as much as they want her to. It's actually incredible. The most incredible part is that they published the video themselves. The stalkers did, I mean. I'll show you that and give you some thoughts on it.

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00:00:38.440 All right. Here's today's podcast.

00:00:44.580 You're listening to a Rebel News Podcast.

00:00:47.080 Tonight, when does the media say that speech is actually violence? And when do they say that violence is actually speech? It's October 4th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:04.680 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:10.520 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:14.580 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:25.880 Look at this video. I'm going to show it to you in a moment.

00:01:28.260 First, let me show you the form in which it was published to the world.

00:01:31.120 It was in a tweet on the social media site Twitter with a blue checkmark, which means it's verified.

00:01:38.640 It's an official, authoritative account approved by Twitter management.

00:01:42.760 The Twitter account belongs to something spelled LUCA, which stands for Living United for Change in Arizona.

00:01:49.960 They say they're fighting for social, racial, and economic transformation.

00:01:54.460 And here's what they posted on their official Twitter account.

00:01:57.340 We wouldn't have to resort to confronting Senator Sinema around Phoenix if she took meetings with the communities that elected her. 0.99

00:02:05.480 She's been completely inaccessible.

00:02:07.600 We're sick of the political games.

00:02:09.280 Stop playing with our lives.

00:02:10.720 Build back better.

00:02:11.760 Back the bill.

00:02:12.540 So they're talking about a United States senator from Arizona named Kyrsten Sinema, who, although very woke and checking lots of politically correct boxes, she's a woman, she's young for a senator, she used to be in the Green Party, she's bisexual. 0.78

00:02:28.400 I mean, that's a pretty good hand if you're playing woke poker.

00:02:30.840 But she's surprisingly independent-minded, which maybe shouldn't be so surprising.

00:02:35.880 And she doesn't really want to go along with the most aggressive spending and regulatory bill in American history. 0.51

00:02:41.060 What are they up to now, $3.5 trillion?

00:02:43.560 Nobody tell Joe Biden what number comes after a million, billion, trillion.

00:02:47.580 No one tell them.

00:02:48.580 So some Democratic Party activists with this front group, LUCA, they know that Senator Sinema also teaches a course at university.

00:02:57.220 She doesn't do it for the money, obviously. 1.00

00:02:58.660 She doesn't do it for the fame or the power. 0.97

00:03:00.300 She's a senator. 0.99

00:03:01.420 She does it, I'm guessing, because she loves to teach.

00:03:04.140 She connects her with her community, with young people.

00:03:06.660 It's a form of public service.

00:03:08.020 Isn't that neat?

00:03:09.200 Well, some LUCA activists, including an illegal immigrant who is illegally in America, let me repeat, illegal, well, they decided to stalk her, chase her, hound her, and follow her right into the bathroom.

00:03:20.720 Watch this.

00:03:22.880 Okay, I'll be back.

00:03:24.780 Sit down, we want to talk to you real quick.

00:03:26.280 Want to talk to you real quick?

00:03:26.940 Hi, actually, I am heading out.

00:03:29.540 But right now is a real moment that our people need in order for us to be able to talk about what's really happening.

00:03:35.580 We need a Build Back Better plan right now.

00:03:39.540 We knocked on doors for us.

00:03:41.880 We need solutions to the Build Back Better plan.

00:03:45.060 We have the solutions that we need.

00:03:47.200 We knocked on doors for you to get you elected.

00:03:49.920 Just how we got you elected, we can get you out of office if you don't support what you promised us.

00:03:54.700 We need 7 million citizenship for 7 million. 0.91

00:03:58.000 We need the Build Back Better plan right now.

00:04:01.180 My name is Blanca.

00:04:04.720 I was brought here to the United States when I was three years old.

00:04:07.860 And in 2010, my grandparents both got deported because of SB 1070.

00:04:12.920 And I'm here because I definitely believe that we need a pathway to citizenship.

00:04:17.640 My grandfather passed away two weeks ago.

00:04:20.460 And I was not able to go to Mexico and visit him because there is no pathway to citizenship.

00:04:25.480 And if we have the opportunity to pass it right now, then we need to do it because there's millions of undocumented people just like me who share the same story or even worse things that happened to them because of SB 1070 and because of anti-immigrant legislation.

00:04:40.680 And this is the opportunity to pass it right now.

00:04:42.760 And we need you to hold you accountable to what you told us, what you promised us that you were going to pass when we knocked on doors for you.

00:04:49.980 It's not right.

00:04:50.740 Thank you.

00:04:50.920 Yeah, that's a crime.

00:05:10.900 That's literally a crime, by the way.

00:05:12.660 Let me show you the Arizona law, revised statutes, title 13, criminal code.

00:05:16.900 Let me read from the bill.

00:05:19.060 Here's what it says.

00:05:20.040 It is unlawful for any person to knowingly photograph, videotape, film, digitally record, or by any other means secretly view with or without a device, another person without that person's consent under either the following circumstances, one in the restroom, bathroom, locker room, bedroom, or other location where the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy and the person is urinating, defecating, dressing, undressing, nude, or involved in sexual encourses.

00:05:46.780 Okay.

00:05:47.540 Sorry to be so blunt.

00:05:48.360 I'm just reading from the wording of the law.

00:05:50.040 Chasing someone into a bathroom while they're going to the bathroom when they have a reasonable expectation of privacy and don't consent.

00:05:56.840 I'm sorry, that's stalking, that's harassing, that's breaking the law.

00:05:59.300 Here's another view of it.

00:06:00.340 By the way, they're going to have justice and solutions that we need for immigration, labor.

00:06:12.980 By the way, they've been doing this to her for days.

00:06:20.560 I'm surprised they haven't physically battered her yet.

00:06:24.200 Here's the same build back better Democrat operatives, excuse me, going after another Democratic senator who isn't left-wing enough for them.

00:06:33.160 His name is Joe Manchin.

00:06:35.740 He's a Democrat senator from West Virginia.

00:06:38.520 And by the way, when he's in Washington, D.C.

00:06:40.300 He lives on a houseboat.

00:06:42.460 He has a boat.

00:06:43.540 He apparently paid 220 grand for it, which I can tell you is much cheaper than a condo in D.C.

00:06:48.600 And he's a Democrat, mind you, but because, you know, he represents West Virginia and not a hard left-wing state, he's not quite as enthused by Joe Biden's bill.

00:06:59.200 And so take a look at this.

00:07:00.760 Senator Manchin!

00:07:02.220 Senator Manchin!

00:07:04.520 Your constituents are here!

00:07:06.800 Your constituents are here!

00:07:09.400 Your constituents are here from West Virginia!

00:07:12.440 Your constituents are here from West Virginia!

00:07:15.660 Will you please come talk to us?

00:07:17.620 Will you please come talk to us?

00:07:20.180 Come out and talk!

00:07:21.820 Come out and talk!

00:07:23.840 Come out!

00:07:25.040 Come out!

00:07:27.400 Now, they were at least polite and didn't come onto his boat.

00:07:32.080 I'm guessing they know a bit about Joe Manchin and didn't dare break the laws of piracy and storm his boat.

00:07:39.860 I'll cut federal spending and I'll repeal the bad parts of Obamacare.

00:07:44.020 I sued EPA and I'll take dead aim at the cap and trade bill.

00:07:49.320 Because it's bad for West Virginia.

00:07:54.100 They're only brave enough to assault women, not armed men. 0.92

00:07:57.100 Hey, imagine if instead of Democrat activists and illegal immigrants chasing a woman into a bathroom and filming her. 0.82

00:08:04.260 Imagine if it were, oh, I don't know, a kid in a MAGA hat, Make America Great Again hat, the Trump hat.

00:08:10.120 Chasing not a Democrat senator who's a moderate, but chasing, let's say, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:08:18.020 Chasing her into a bathroom, filming her, terrorizing her, harassing her.

00:08:21.140 What do you think the media would have said or done in that case?

00:08:26.220 Well, here's what Joe Biden had to say on the subject.

00:08:30.060 I don't think they're appropriate tactics, but it happens to everybody.

00:08:33.600 The only people it doesn't happen to are people who have Secret Service standing around them.

00:08:39.800 So it's part of the process.

00:08:42.700 Yes, sir.

00:08:42.940 Hang on, that was part of the process.

00:08:46.000 It happens to people all the time, does it?

00:08:48.420 It's just part of the process to chase women into bathrooms and film them? 0.99

00:08:52.100 Yeah, no.

00:08:53.300 You know, you had a few dozen protesters meandering around an empty Capitol building,

00:08:57.120 and they've been in solitary confinement for nine months.

00:08:59.740 And that attack was called the worst attack on America since 9-11.

00:09:05.260 But stalking a woman by herself into a bathroom and blocking her way, that's part of the process. 0.63

00:09:11.620 Of course it is, because they're Biden's shock troops.

00:09:14.280 He loves them.

00:09:15.020 He's not going to deport that illegal alien who committed the crime. 0.97

00:09:18.280 I doubt they'll be prosecuted.

00:09:20.040 So threats of violence or intimidation at the very least, that's just part of the process to the Democrats.

00:09:25.280 But people sending journalists mean comments, I want to read that to you.

00:09:30.840 That's a five-alarm fire.

00:09:31.900 Depends on who the target is, right?

00:09:33.540 Here's the latest from BlackLocks.ca, where journalism groups are not getting together to fight Trudeau's censorship plans.

00:09:42.020 They're getting together to help sell his censorship plans to the public for him.

00:09:46.080 Let me read some of it to you.

00:09:47.000 This is from BlackLocks.

00:09:49.900 CBC leads advocacy study.

00:09:51.980 The CBC and five subsidized press associations pledge to advocate for initiatives to reduce, if not prevent, online harm, according to a network statement.

00:10:00.860 The advocacy comes ahead of Internet censorship bills by Heritage Minister Stephen Legault, including a proposal to block websites and appoint a chief censor called the Digital Safety Commissioner.

00:10:12.460 Safety, I love that part.

00:10:14.620 We think industry-wide data will help us to advocate for initiatives to reduce, if not prevent, online harm, Claude Gallupo, CBC Executive Vice President, wrote in the statement.

00:10:23.540 The network said it was commissioning a complaint-driven survey to document allegations of hurtful Internet content.

00:10:31.080 Questions included, how often have you experienced any of the following as a result of the work you do in the field of journalism or media?

00:10:37.320 Threats or harassment online, social media emails, websites, etc.

00:10:41.460 Threats of harassment by phone.

00:10:43.380 Threats of harassment in person, physically attacked.

00:10:45.520 The survey also asked, do you feel the frequency of harassment has changed over the past two years?

00:10:51.240 And who should be held responsible for protecting journalists from online harm?

00:10:55.580 Social media platforms, employers, journalism associations, government.

00:10:59.800 Now let me stop for a minute and say I'm not for harassing people.

00:11:03.980 I'm against harassing people.

00:11:05.800 I'm against being attacked.

00:11:07.900 I'm against physical attacks.

00:11:09.600 But can you recall a single journalist in Canada being attacked in the last, I don't know, 10 years?

00:11:16.900 Anyone?

00:11:17.800 Anyone on the CBC or CTV or Global or the Toronto Star or the Sun or the National Post?

00:11:24.040 Can you remember a single journalist being attacked?

00:11:28.620 I can.

00:11:30.820 Us here at Rebel News, by the government mainly.

00:11:33.760 Here's the Toronto police attacking us for peacefully doing our job, reporting on protests.

00:11:38.160 Here's the Montreal police doing the same.

00:11:42.180 And they call us Jew media, media shuif, just to add a little whiff of fascism to it.

00:11:49.960 And here's the Australian police attacking our Avi Amini.

00:11:55.020 And here's an Antifa protester attacking our David Menzies in Peterborough.

00:12:00.460 And here's Sheila Gunn-Reed being attacked by an NDP activist at a women's march in Edmonton.

00:12:04.680 I could show you many more videos.

00:12:08.000 I mean, here's a recent one.

00:12:09.520 Police stealing our cameraman's hard drive in Quebec and threatening to arrest him if he didn't hand it over.

00:12:16.640 Not a word from the CBC or the five official media organizations on any of that.

00:12:21.020 Not a word from the Canadian Association of Journalists.

00:12:23.200 They're too busy asking police to arrest Maxime Bernier for saying mean things about them.

00:12:30.160 But mean tweets, mean emails, that's the stuff they want to censor.

00:12:34.660 Violence against Christian cinema is speech.

00:12:38.720 And speech is violence.

00:12:42.140 Depends on who you are.

00:12:44.440 Stay with us for a moment.

00:12:45.360 Welcome back.

00:12:58.320 Well, you know the doctor's motto, the Hippocratic oath that goes back millennia, actually.

00:13:03.220 Do no harm.

00:13:05.560 There's another aphorism that you'll hear from doctors.

00:13:07.760 Get a second opinion.

00:13:08.900 May I get a second opinion?

00:13:10.100 I'd like another opinion because two doctors seeing the same set of facts and talking to the patient may come up with another point of view.

00:13:17.800 It's not something to be discouraged.

00:13:19.800 It's something to be encouraged because each patient has different needs.

00:13:23.640 How different treating individual patients than treating the mass as if we're ants in an ant colony?

00:13:30.840 That's the difference between a doctor with patients and a, quote, public health doctor who's treating the body politic at large.

00:13:38.940 Many of the people you see on TV, Dr. Teresa Tam, for example, are really bureaucrats and politicians who haven't seen a patient in years or even decades, but they have an MD behind their name.

00:13:50.900 So that gives them an authoritativeness to make diagnoses and prescriptions for society at large.

00:13:58.240 Well, what happens if there's an individual doctor who sees an individual patient and comes to the conclusion, based on his own judgment and experience and the questions asked, that maybe the public health prescription is not appropriate for a particular client?

00:14:15.960 Well, we have precious few of those doctors in Canada.

00:14:20.520 Those that do pop up are being singled out by the colleges of physicians and surgeons, the regulators for that profession, and threatened even with the loss of their livelihoods.

00:14:31.060 One such doctor is named Dr. Patrick Phillips.

00:14:33.700 He's an emergency room doctor in eastern Ontario, and he joins us now via Skype.

00:14:39.040 Dr. Phillips, a pleasure to have you with us.

00:14:40.780 Thanks for being here.

00:14:42.200 Thank you for having me on, Ezra.

00:14:43.300 Well, I think many institutions have failed over the last year and a half.

00:14:49.280 There's no opposition party in the country that opposes the lockdowns.

00:14:54.400 There's really no mainstream media that does.

00:14:58.400 No judges have struck it down in any meaningful way.

00:15:01.220 But I think one of the greatest failures, if I may, are the colleges of physicians and surgeons who have, rather than advocating for patients,

00:15:10.480 have advocated for the government against the patients and against any doctors and told them to shut up.

00:15:16.620 Can you tell us what happened to you when you dared to give your professional advice that was at odds to the government's advice?

00:15:24.700 Yeah, so this is quite a troubling issue that's come up in Ontario.

00:15:33.540 And it started, I think, last year when public health became very adamant about their policies and their not to be questioned.

00:15:43.680 But surprisingly, the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario came out with a very stark statement on April 30th,

00:15:50.840 stating that physicians are banned from giving any advice to patients or the public that could be construed as anti-vaccine, anti-distancing, anti-masking,

00:16:03.960 or promoting what they call unfounded treatments.

00:16:06.680 And this is unheard of.

00:16:09.080 It's unprecedented.

00:16:11.400 The medical community is very used to having free and open debate around scientific issues, around treatments,

00:16:20.100 because treatment recommendations change from time to time.

00:16:23.600 It happens all the time.

00:16:24.780 You think of aspirin.

00:16:25.640 We used to tell everybody to take an aspirin to prevent heart attacks.

00:16:28.740 And now we figured out that that has made you more likely to die because we didn't take into account the risk of bleeding.

00:16:35.860 As only certain people should take aspirin.

00:16:38.380 But that's just one example of a dogma that was always just construed as common sense advice that should never be questioned.

00:16:44.740 And it's been shown to be wrong.

00:16:47.660 So when it comes to COVID-19, it's even more egregious because this is an area, this is a disease, in fact, that's completely new.

00:16:56.640 And so the science has been developing rapidly.

00:17:01.220 But even more so, the whole scientific community of the world, because it's such a crisis, has kind of come together and created more scientific evidence on one disease, I think, than we've ever seen in history in such a short time.

00:17:17.600 And so I started to follow some of that science.

00:17:23.260 I started to see not only some of the harms of the lockdowns and that the science wasn't backing up any of the benefits of these lockdowns, but I started to follow some of the science on treatments for COVID-19.

00:17:36.440 One of them being vitamin D, which drastically reduces mortality and hospitalization, and then ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, all of which in multiple randomized control trials have been shown to reduce mortality in COVID-19.

00:17:50.500 And so, like I said, seeing some of these lockdowns, harms in my patients, including missed cancer diagnosis, suicidal children, I knew that I needed to speak out.

00:18:03.500 And so I decided to put it on the line and to follow my oath to put patients first, to share my medical knowledge, and to speak freely, as all physicians should, to give informed consent to the public and my patients.

00:18:16.960 And the college did not like that.

00:18:21.980 They accused me of spreading misinformation and of being incompetent in my social media statements.

00:18:34.040 So, yeah, they've launched an investigation.

00:18:35.840 It's been since, I think, February is when they started.

00:18:38.600 And just recently, they've come together to put restrictions on my practice and to make allegations against me that have yet to be proven in the tribunal, although the tribunal is run by the CPSO.

00:18:55.120 I understand that some of those restrictions include forbidding you from making certain prescriptions, such as ivermectin, and forbidding you from writing any medical exemptions for people.

00:19:07.340 Is that correct?

00:19:08.720 That's correct.

00:19:10.380 Now, but here's what I don't understand.

00:19:13.800 If you haven't had a hearing yet, I mean, if you haven't been put on trial within the College of Physicians and Surgeons, where accusations are put to you and you have a chance to reply, and you can make your case, you can say, well, look at these studies and look at these clinical trials and look at these other jurisdictions.

00:19:33.260 If so far all it is, is political complaints, and maybe they'll be upheld, but so far they haven't had their day in court, how can they stop you from prescribing medicine just based on an accusation?

00:19:47.660 Yeah, so they do have the right to be able to put preliminary restrictions prior to the trial.

00:19:57.040 They think that it's your risk to patient safety.

00:20:02.600 So I agree, it's overkill, but they do have the ability to do that prior to the trial.

00:20:12.700 That's incredible.

00:20:14.200 You know, you said one of the things that they're banning doctors from talking about is criticizing public policy orders like social distancing.

00:20:23.200 I don't know if you saw this, but Scott Gottlieb, former FDA commissioner, now I understand.

00:20:28.640 I think he's actually on the board of Pfizer.

00:20:30.080 He admitted just the other day that the whole six-feet social distancing thing, no one knows where it came from.

00:20:38.940 Everyone just repeated it.

00:20:41.160 And I know in other jurisdictions around the world it's one and a half meters or some places it's one meter, so that's three feet, four and a half feet, six feet.

00:20:50.200 Like, according to Scott Gottlieb, the former FDA commissioner, that was just all made up.

00:20:55.960 Yeah, you know, so much of what was implemented by public health throughout this pandemic were things that were just made up.

00:21:05.820 And actually, a lot of them actually contradicted well-known scientific studies that some of these measures were not helpful or could actually be harmful,

00:21:14.880 such as wearing masks for people who are asymptomatic.

00:21:17.640 There were studies prior to COVID that showed that actually cloth masks enhance the spread of influenza.

00:21:27.660 And that was a randomized control trial.

00:21:30.100 And so that's why you saw Fauci and others saying, no, there's no evidence this works and it might actually be harmful.

00:21:36.620 And that was the real science.

00:21:38.140 The science didn't change in March of 2020.

00:21:40.780 The policy changed and much of it contradicted well-known science around these issues.

00:21:51.700 But, yeah, I agree.

00:21:52.520 Social distancing as well has not been shown to be effective.

00:21:56.040 In fact, we know that COVID-19 is airborne.

00:21:59.800 It forms in clouds.

00:22:00.800 It goes out the sides of masks.

00:22:02.760 And so it's stagnant air and lack of ventilation that often leads to the spread.

00:22:09.780 Although immune compromise, such as vitamin D deficiency, age, hypertension, diabetes,

00:22:15.940 all those things are what make you actually most prone to catching COVID.

00:22:20.000 You know, there are actually a range of opinions, medical opinions, public health opinions.

00:22:27.900 Much of it is just BS because so little of this has been tried.

00:22:31.640 But I see online there are lots of Twitter doctors.

00:22:36.160 There's a lot of TV doctors.

00:22:37.540 And I don't mean people pretending to be doctors.

00:22:40.020 I mean real doctors who they're having the time of their lives being on TV, being asked their opinion,

00:22:46.700 whereas before no one ever paid them attention.

00:22:48.740 Now they're the heroes of our age.

00:22:50.940 And I see that it feels like there's almost an arms race to who could be the most apocalyptic,

00:22:56.100 who could be the most absurd with their recommendations.

00:22:59.360 I see, you know, doctors masking their own children at home, let alone masking children anywhere.

00:23:06.680 So here's my question for you.

00:23:07.940 You have been sanctioned without even a hearing, banned from issuing certain prescriptions,

00:23:15.580 banned from giving your own patients a medical exemption, even if they desperately need one.

00:23:20.900 But other doctors are out there cooking up crazy ideas on the other side.

00:23:29.040 You need a triple mask.

00:23:30.780 You need a vax and a mask and a booster and at home, like just absurd.

00:23:35.820 And I haven't seen the College of Physicians and Surgeons ever knock those celebrity doctors

00:23:42.140 for being absolute fear mongers, panic mongers, and frankly coming up with homemade remedies

00:23:50.020 that have never been tested before.

00:23:53.060 Do you know of any doctor in Canada or for that matter, the United States or Europe,

00:24:00.080 who has been censured by the College of Physicians and Surgeons in their jurisdiction

00:24:04.480 for being too alarmist, too extremist, or even just for being extreme in general and causing panic?

00:24:11.000 No, in fact, what I find actually most egregious in this is one of the most fundamental principles

00:24:21.340 of medical ethics, and I mean, it's drilled into you in medical school.

00:24:25.620 Every year we have classes on it once a week, professional competencies.

00:24:30.080 And number one principle is patient autonomy, patient's choices over their own health care.

00:24:36.520 No physician ever forces medical treatment on a patient or coerces them or lures them in

00:24:42.720 by some other means to get such as ice cream into any kind of medical treatment.

00:24:47.080 That's considered unethical, and that's our number one duty.

00:24:50.740 And what we're seeing is a lot of these TV doctors, along with public health,

00:24:55.380 are violating the most basic principles of medical ethics that these colleges were created to enforce.

00:25:03.200 And so when we see doctors who are encouraging vaccine passports,

00:25:09.560 encouraging people to get fired for not complying with some medical treatment,

00:25:14.360 this is what these colleges were created for.

00:25:17.260 It was to remove that kind of danger, that medical assault that's happening on patients.

00:25:22.700 I can't tell you how many patients I've seen coming in with vaccine injuries

00:25:27.860 or just getting vaccinated in general and tell me they were crying getting it

00:25:31.640 because they were told they were going to lose their job if they didn't get it.

00:25:35.780 And they knew they didn't want it.

00:25:37.540 They weren't willing to accept the risks, but they were coerced.

00:25:40.720 This is what colleges were created for.

00:25:43.600 This is the most egregious form of medical malpractice in my mind.

00:25:48.980 And that's what our college is actually encouraging.

00:25:52.240 They're coming after doctors who are trying to protect patients from coercion

00:25:55.640 because we have no business ever, even with a 100% safe and effective vaccine

00:26:01.380 or a 100% safe and effective treatment to force a patient into that

00:26:06.880 or even participate in that coercion.

00:26:10.100 If you look at the College of Physicians' consent to treatment policy,

00:26:14.580 they actually forbid any doctor from providing a medical treatment

00:26:18.040 if they have reason to believe that that patient is being coerced by a third party.

00:26:22.660 So it's not just your physician can't coerce you,

00:26:25.520 but no physician can give a treatment if you're being coerced by somebody else.

00:26:29.520 And so the college, in my opinion, they're failing egregiously

00:26:35.460 in their duty to protect patients from medical assault.

00:26:38.940 Yeah, when you mentioned ice cream, I know that's not a random thing.

00:26:42.340 The city of Toronto and other jurisdictions were saying,

00:26:46.200 hey kids, like literally free hugs, free ice cream.

00:26:49.860 They actually had a free ice cream day for children as young as 12

00:26:53.400 who don't need their parental consent to get the jab.

00:26:56.640 That's shocking to me.

00:26:58.200 And you're right.

00:26:59.720 Oh, it's completely your choice to get vaxxed.

00:27:02.860 You'll just be fired from your job, kicked out from your university,

00:27:07.040 banned from any normal social life.

00:27:09.320 It is absolutely duress.

00:27:12.360 You know, there's a philosopher and a physicist named Richard Feynman.

00:27:16.900 He's passed away now, but he really popularized science in the 60s and 70s.

00:27:22.500 And he had a saying that science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts.

00:27:28.320 As in the whole point of science, what distinguishes it from faith,

00:27:33.860 where you believe based on the authority of God.

00:27:38.720 Science is based on criticizing the experts,

00:27:42.060 knowing that they don't know everything.

00:27:43.520 And challenging, challenging, challenging, always trying to disprove a hypothesis.

00:27:50.060 And I don't think that these colleges, I think they have turned into a priesthood,

00:27:54.040 not a science collaboration.

00:27:56.740 That's my view.

00:27:57.580 What do you think?

00:27:59.540 Yeah, absolutely.

00:28:00.840 I mean, again, I find it so crazy how everything's been turned upside down.

00:28:06.400 I mean, I don't know where other doctors went to med school,

00:28:09.180 but when I learned about medical evidence and we learned how to critically appraise studies

00:28:13.580 and the evidence for medical recommendations,

00:28:15.700 we learned at the very bottom of that rung is expert opinion, right?

00:28:20.060 Like, only in the absence of any other evidence do we base our medical practice on expert opinion.

00:28:26.700 And what we have now for COVID, for these public health measures,

00:28:32.240 we actually have a ton of evidence, tons of peer-reviewed scientific studies, randomized control trials.

00:28:38.740 And yet still, doctors and patients are all encouraged to follow the experts

00:28:43.800 when the experts are contradicting the best available evidence that we have

00:28:49.120 around ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, showing that masks don't work,

00:28:52.940 and the DanMask study, among many others.

00:28:55.980 So, yeah, I fully agree.

00:28:57.540 It's almost like a religion where you have to blindly follow the leader,

00:29:02.800 despite the fact that the leader is contradicting the scientific evidence.

00:29:08.100 Well, do you have a hearing date scheduled?

00:29:12.060 Do we know when your case will be?

00:29:13.760 No?

00:29:14.680 No.

00:29:15.500 No, not yet.

00:29:16.440 Well, maybe they want it that way.

00:29:17.780 Maybe they want to have the defamation of you and the slurs against you,

00:29:22.720 but to delay as far as possible your chance to respond.

00:29:27.420 And, by the way, your response, you would be able to marshal your information

00:29:32.280 and probably dispute theirs.

00:29:34.280 My guess is they want things just the way they are.

00:29:36.900 You've been denormalized.

00:29:38.280 You've been deplatformed.

00:29:39.840 Cancelled, really.

00:29:41.460 And as far as they're concerned, if they have your hearing in 2025,

00:29:45.740 that suits them just fine.

00:29:48.660 Yeah, likely.

00:29:49.760 Yeah.

00:29:50.400 I don't know what their plans are for me.

00:29:52.380 Well, let me say this, and I'm certainly not going to press you to make a decision on air,

00:29:57.500 but let me tell you that we have actually defended more than 2,000 Canadians

00:30:03.240 who have received some kind of hassle or ticket or fine or prosecution

00:30:08.740 over the last year and a half because of the lockdowns.

00:30:11.620 And your case is very important.

00:30:13.520 In fact, I'd say it's more important than most of the cases we deal with

00:30:16.960 are a nuisance or a hassle, and they're $1,000, so that's enough to really tip a family

00:30:23.320 into financial jeopardy.

00:30:25.820 But to actually shut up and shut down a doctor who expresses an alternative point of view,

00:30:33.320 and by the way, of course, they are affecting your livelihood,

00:30:36.220 I think your case could be one of the most important.

00:30:38.500 So let me just extend to you an offer of pro bono, what we'll pay for.

00:30:44.700 We crowdfund top-notch lawyers, and we actually have a lawyer in-house who is a lawyer and a former nurse

00:30:53.640 and knows health law inside out.

00:30:58.900 Feel free to be in touch with us on a later date.

00:31:01.840 We would be delighted to give you outstanding representation at no cost to you.

00:31:06.160 Our viewers would be happy to crowdfund it.

00:31:08.720 So you don't need to answer me now, but you can think about it,

00:31:11.480 and we will be there for you if you need this legal help.

00:31:15.840 Yeah, we'll definitely take that into consideration.

00:31:18.440 All right.

00:31:19.000 Well, listen, it's a pleasure to meet you, and I wish you strength,

00:31:22.160 and I hope that you fight back, not just because of your particular point of view,

00:31:27.140 but the very fact that whatever your point of view is, that it's being censored.

00:31:31.320 That is not science, and that's definitely not medicine.

00:31:34.860 It's nice to meet you, and I wish you good luck.

00:31:36.920 Definitely. Thank you so much, Ezra.

00:31:38.360 All right. My pleasure.

00:31:39.380 There you have it, Dr. Patrick Phillips, an emergency department doctor,

00:31:44.080 who joined us from Englehart, Ontario.

00:31:46.380 Stay with us. More ahead.

00:31:52.160 Hey, welcome back.

00:32:00.460 Here are letters from the last show on Friday.

00:32:03.560 Wise Owl says,

00:32:04.820 Glad to hear the liberals being referred to as a regime,

00:32:07.320 which they have totally become.

00:32:09.260 Yeah, I think they are.

00:32:11.260 I mean, Justin Trudeau does not really respect the courts

00:32:13.440 or the democratic process.

00:32:16.260 Moments after the federal court allowed us into the leaders' debate,

00:32:18.600 but he says, no, whatever the court says, you're not journalists to me.

00:32:21.840 Well, there is a thing called the rule of law, buddy.

00:32:24.420 We'll have to keep reminding him.

00:32:26.140 Paul Hicks says,

00:32:26.900 Canada or Communist China?

00:32:28.200 I wasn't sure where you were talking about at first.

00:32:30.400 Has your prime minister been taking lessons from Chinese state security or what?

00:32:34.900 Well, you know, it's even worse in Australia.

00:32:37.120 There's that one premier of the state of Victoria who went to China

00:32:41.020 and signed a secret treaty with the Chinese,

00:32:43.580 wouldn't disclose it to voters.

00:32:44.920 It had to be disallowed by the prime minister there.

00:32:46.960 He's the one with the most brutal lockdowns in Australia.

00:32:50.120 His name is Dan Andrews.

00:32:51.160 He's in the state of Victoria, Australia.

00:32:53.100 I think that Trudeau is doing the same thing.

00:32:55.660 You'll notice that the governors and the premiers

00:32:59.360 and the prime ministers in the world,

00:33:01.260 the closest to communist China,

00:33:03.100 are the ones with the most brutal lockdown,

00:33:05.700 Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand being one of the worst.

00:33:08.420 And those who are the freest and the most anti-communist,

00:33:10.860 Ron DeSantis of Florida, for example,

00:33:13.300 have the lightest lockdowns.

00:33:14.480 I don't think it's a coincidence.

00:33:15.760 And I think it explains a lot about us here in Canada.

00:33:19.160 Well, that's our show for today.

00:33:20.940 I'm going to leave you with one video.

00:33:24.220 As you know, we like to choose videos

00:33:26.220 from around the rest of the rebel world

00:33:28.340 because I'd just like to throw a video your way

00:33:30.300 to make sure you see some of our other work.

00:33:33.180 So I'll say goodbye to you now,

00:33:34.820 and we'll leave you with a video.

00:33:36.160 But until next time,

00:33:37.200 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:33:39.440 to you at home, good night.

00:33:41.420 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:33:42.560 Unvaccinated people, they're going to suffer. 1.00

00:33:45.460 I had a doctor call me and ask me

00:33:47.420 when I had an appointment coming up,

00:33:49.940 and she said,

00:33:50.400 Tim, you can't see me until you have the vaccination.

00:33:52.740 I don't have a choice because they impose it on me,

00:33:55.180 but I think it's taking our freedom away.

00:33:59.240 There are people who can't get the vaccine,

00:34:01.260 so how are they going to be protected

00:34:02.620 in this vaccine world?

00:34:05.020 I still have my papers and everything to show up

00:34:08.040 when I get in restaurants or anywhere.

00:34:10.140 They're being inconsiderate

00:34:11.640 because they further the spread of disease.

00:34:15.220 Well, you shouldn't be worried.

00:34:16.280 You should be worried about the other guy.

00:34:17.820 You should be worried about the person who's not vaccinated, 0.98

00:34:20.920 not want to have them thrown in jail or something worse, you know,

00:34:25.120 so this thing of division is the worst.

00:34:28.140 I don't think I would have a resistance

00:34:29.880 to encompassing essential services

00:34:31.660 because it's just like no smoking, right?

00:34:33.640 It's a bad awakening for a democracy, I guess.

00:34:38.720 Sydney Vizard, video journalist for Rebel News.

00:34:40.960 Now, you may have recently heard about the vaccine passports

00:34:43.700 that have been popping up across the country.

00:34:45.420 Recently, I got to experience these firsthand

00:34:47.480 as I was traveling across the provinces

00:34:49.160 from Toronto to Calgary,

00:34:51.000 and along the way,

00:34:51.740 I was able to find a wide range of Canadians,

00:34:54.100 from those who support the vaccine passport

00:34:55.860 to those who want nothing to do with it.

00:34:57.740 And in today's report,

00:34:58.560 I'm going to show you what they had to say

00:34:59.980 when I asked them about the vaccine passport.

00:35:02.000 Do you support the vaccine passport?

00:35:04.800 It would be good.

00:35:05.720 No, I don't.

00:35:06.620 I think I do.

00:35:07.340 Sure.

00:35:07.800 I don't know if I think it's a good thing all around.

00:35:10.120 I want to be around people that are vaccinated.

00:35:12.140 Absolutely necessary.

00:35:13.740 I think they're criminal.

00:35:15.100 I am in support of it,

00:35:16.300 but I think there's so many things that could go wrong with it.

00:35:19.420 Absolutely not.

00:35:20.400 Yeah.

00:35:20.640 I'm very much against that.

00:35:22.620 But just use it so they can track you.

00:35:24.340 And I still have my papers and everything to show up

00:35:27.580 when I get in a restaurant or anywhere.

00:35:29.680 It's a good thing to do.

00:35:31.600 Right now, you can't go anywhere if you don't have it.

00:35:33.960 You can't go out for dinner.

00:35:35.340 So, yes, I support it in a way if I want to have a life.

00:35:39.160 And I work for Air Canada,

00:35:40.200 so I don't have a choice because they impose it on me.

00:35:42.700 But I think it's taking our freedom away.

00:35:47.020 So it has two sides to it.

00:35:48.580 If you don't want to have to be held to that standard,

00:35:51.840 then you can make the choice not to go to those places.

00:35:53.800 But as a participant or a patron,

00:35:56.440 I don't want to have to guess

00:35:57.660 whether or not you're going to put me in danger.

00:35:59.280 I understand that we need to get a hold of what's going on.

00:36:02.560 They've always had immunization cards anyways.

00:36:04.460 I don't think it's really going to change that much.

00:36:06.280 But, I mean, I think people should have their own choice

00:36:09.300 and say on what they put in their bodies.

00:36:11.000 Yeah.

00:36:11.120 And implementing all these rules,

00:36:14.160 whether people can go into restaurants and this and that,

00:36:16.300 it's just snowballing into something else.

00:36:20.280 Snowballing into what exactly?

00:36:21.680 It seems like we're already at a point where,

00:36:23.840 for public transit, for even using a hospital,

00:36:26.840 and for a lot of people,

00:36:28.580 employment is on the line if you decide not to get your vaccine.

00:36:32.460 Don't forget, Rebel News,

00:36:33.540 in partnership with the registered Canadian charity,

00:36:35.940 the Democracy Fund,

00:36:37.260 is taking strategic lawsuits against vaccine passports.

00:36:40.120 If you think you might have a case,

00:36:42.060 or to help fund our fight against medical segregation,

00:36:44.800 please donate at fightvaccinepassports.com.

00:36:47.980 And as the vaccine passport continues to loom over every aspect of our lives, 0.98

00:36:52.140 I wanted to hear from them.

00:36:53.520 How far do they think it's going to go?

00:36:55.360 Concert venues, nightclubs, indoor dining.

00:36:58.300 Do you think it's going to get to that point where it's banks,

00:37:00.160 transit, grocery stores, stuff like that?

00:37:02.020 I don't think that's...

00:37:02.920 I don't see why not.

00:37:05.540 I could see it moving that way.

00:37:06.920 I hope not.

00:37:07.640 People need food.

00:37:08.540 I don't think I would have a resistance to it encompassing essential services

00:37:12.060 because it's just like no smoking.

00:37:13.980 I believe so.

00:37:15.180 I think they want to make a point.

00:37:17.180 Getting everybody vaccinated.

00:37:19.200 And they say that you won't be able to go visit relatives in the hospital

00:37:22.280 if you don't have your vaccine passport.

00:37:24.780 I try not to dwell on that fact.

00:37:29.120 I haven't been vaccinated and I'm not necessarily planning on being vaccinated.

00:37:33.900 So that means I won't be going anywhere.

00:37:36.820 I think it's going to be a real problem when we do international or domestic even,

00:37:42.720 you know, but just for the little things to give people a sense of safety,

00:37:46.980 I think that'll be good.

00:37:48.540 It depends if people lie, if it's easy to reproduce those, right?

00:37:51.900 They can't extend it to grocery stores, public transit,

00:37:55.940 because people absolutely need food.

00:37:58.780 They have to get it.

00:38:00.780 Public transit, not everyone has a vehicle.

00:38:04.080 People need to get around in our society.

00:38:06.540 We're very spread out.

00:38:08.920 That was the last one, banking.

00:38:10.340 Yeah, people need access to funds as well.

00:38:13.260 They may have to modify how those are accessed, but no.

00:38:18.420 This is about threatening people.

00:38:20.400 And some people have never responded to threats in their lives.

00:38:23.820 So they're fearful and they do what they're told.

00:38:26.140 So they're going to try to do this as far as they can.

00:38:29.060 And the eggheads, in other words, lawyers, are there quietly going,

00:38:33.460 well, it's not illegal.

00:38:36.100 It's not morally ethical, but it's not quite illegal.

00:38:41.820 We could challenge that.

00:38:43.380 You can't really put a passport on that,

00:38:47.640 because you're going to get so much outrage from everybody else too, right?

00:38:51.000 Like, there are people who can't get the vaccine.

00:38:53.300 So how are they going to be protected in this vaccine world?

00:38:57.360 They're going to put it on everywhere.

00:38:58.480 They're forcing everybody.

00:38:59.800 Like, even a doctor.

00:39:00.860 I had a doctor call me and ask me,

00:39:03.400 when I had an appointment coming up,

00:39:05.020 and she said, Tim, you can't see me until you have the vaccination.

00:39:08.120 To go to places where it's a privilege,

00:39:10.800 it needs to be done that way to save everybody.

00:39:14.200 I think Australia is a good example of it,

00:39:16.840 is that there doesn't seem any end

00:39:20.200 to the attack on personal freedoms

00:39:23.160 and freedom of speech.

00:39:24.900 And there's no good fruit coming out of it.

00:39:27.760 What's happening with vaccines?

00:39:29.060 You've got to get the vaccine.

00:39:30.380 Everything will work out.

00:39:31.360 Now you have to get another vaccine.

00:39:32.900 Then you have to get a booster.

00:39:34.540 Now they're suggesting you can get one every month.

00:39:37.860 You know, so what's going on?

00:39:39.880 I think so.

00:39:40.940 However, we as individuals have to stand our rights

00:39:44.960 and fight against this.

00:39:46.540 Now, I've got to be honest,

00:39:47.300 this does sound a little ominous,

00:39:48.980 but what about those affected individuals,

00:39:51.520 those who won't be getting the vaccine?

00:39:53.580 What's going to happen to them?

00:39:55.040 As the vaccine passport becomes

00:39:56.880 more and more intrusive on our daily lives.

00:39:59.620 What do you think will happen

00:40:00.740 to those who don't get vaccinated?

00:40:02.020 I hope nothing bad.

00:40:03.440 Unvaccinated people, they're going to suffer. 1.00

00:40:05.560 Banking, shopping, things like that.

00:40:07.660 They're going to have to get people to do it for them.

00:40:09.380 They will probably do drastic things,

00:40:11.580 like a protest or a march.

00:40:13.380 They will force them to get vaccinated

00:40:15.140 or they lose their jobs.

00:40:16.140 They will do anything possible

00:40:18.340 that is unscientific and unproven

00:40:20.000 just to get them vaccinated.

00:40:21.720 It's a bad awakening for a democracy, I guess.

00:40:23.740 They're being inconsiderate

00:40:25.540 because they further the spread of disease.

00:40:29.000 There's 6 million people in Toronto

00:40:30.600 that are officers of the law

00:40:32.860 that are against the COVID shot.

00:40:34.700 They're feeling pressured

00:40:35.840 and they don't like the pressure

00:40:37.540 and it should be up to you

00:40:39.980 to get a shot in if you want to. 0.99

00:40:41.700 It's your body.

00:40:42.200 I don't think businesses should be put in their bills

00:40:47.080 when they come down with COVID

00:40:48.460 and the huge expenses associated with that

00:40:51.700 in the hospitals.

00:40:52.800 They might be paralyzed at home, right?

00:40:54.740 They might be stuck and sitting in a box somewhere

00:40:57.040 and hoping they could go out.

00:40:58.540 Or maybe some of them will make the decision

00:41:01.340 who are sitting on the fence to get the vaccine.

00:41:03.940 And the smaller that minority becomes,

00:41:05.900 the less of a challenge this issue becomes

00:41:07.780 to navigate for the government.

00:41:08.820 Oh, I haven't even thought about that.

00:41:10.980 Who knows what the government will do?

00:41:13.780 I really couldn't answer that question.

00:41:16.020 And if you're vaccinated,

00:41:17.280 why are you so worried about somebody

00:41:19.040 who's not vaccinated?

00:41:20.060 Because if the vaccine does anything,

00:41:24.560 well, you shouldn't be worried.

00:41:25.700 You should be worried about the other guy.

00:41:27.240 You should be worried about the person

00:41:28.720 who's not vaccinated,

00:41:30.380 not want to have them thrown in jail

00:41:31.980 or something worse, you know.

00:41:34.500 So this thing of division is the worst.

00:41:37.220 Hey guys, thanks for watching.

00:41:39.000 And if you want to show your support

00:41:40.180 for those who are being marginalized

00:41:41.420 by the vaccine passport,

00:41:42.860 please go to fightvaccinepassports.com.

00:41:45.860 Fight Vaccine Passports is a new project

00:41:47.820 by Rebel News to help Canadian families

00:41:49.700 who are being forced against their will

00:41:51.580 to take the COVID-19 vaccine.

00:41:53.820 And on the side of that webpage,

00:41:55.420 you'll find links to our

00:41:56.780 No Vaccine Passports petition,

00:41:58.920 as well as our Fight Vaccine Passports legal fund.

00:42:01.400 And remember, donations now provide you

00:42:03.640 with a charitable tax receipt.

00:42:05.380 For Rebel News, I'm Sidney Fazzard.

00:42:07.220 Thanks, guys.

00:42:10.940 I hope you enjoyed that.

00:42:11.800 And if you want to see more

00:42:12.680 on-the-ground journalism,

00:42:13.860 please go to realreporters.ca.

00:42:16.320 Show your support.

00:42:17.420 Unlike mainstream media,

00:42:18.500 we don't take massive handouts

00:42:19.780 from the government.

00:42:20.660 Instead, we'd rather show you

00:42:21.760 what's really going on.

00:42:22.620 But to do that, we need your help.

00:42:24.080 So please show your support

00:42:25.320 at realreporters.ca.

00:42:27.060 So you got people fighting

00:42:28.620 against one another.

00:42:29.820 And there's usually a third party

00:42:33.040 that's benefiting from getting people

00:42:36.980 to be in division with one another.

00:42:40.200 And that's a concern for society.

00:42:42.640 We'll see you next time.

00:42:46.280 We'll see you next time.

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Rebel News Podcast - October 05, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ When does media say speech is violence; and when do they say violence is speech？

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