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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Crazy news out of the United States. The SPLC, the anti-conservative hate group

00:00:06.340 that claims to be a civil rights group, a huge indictment issued against them for fraud. We'll

00:00:12.360 have all the details and we'll talk to our old friend Gavin McInnes, who has been suing the SPLC

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00:01:25.000 Tonight, a massive indictment for fraud against the SPLC, a left-wing censorship group.

00:01:35.960 It's April 22nd, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:41.860 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:45.080 big news out of the united states the spLC formerly the southern poverty law center which

00:02:00.340 has always been a race-based anti-conservative activist group claiming to be a civil rights

00:02:05.800 movement well a massive indictment against them here's the fbi and the department of justice

00:02:11.000 announcing that. Take a look.

00:02:12.980 What we're here today is to announce

00:02:14.540 what the general just told you.

00:02:17.140 The Southern Poverty Law Center,

00:02:18.760 in a massive, sweeping indictment,

00:02:22.020 has been charged with allegations of fraud

00:02:24.580 and using the banking system to perpetrate that fraud.

00:02:27.680 I just want to talk about a couple brief things here.

00:02:30.640 The Southern Poverty Law Center

00:02:32.240 themselves advertised to raise money

00:02:35.480 to dismantle violent extremist groups

00:02:37.840 for a period of at least a decade.

00:02:40.480 They used their donor network to raise money to purportedly dismantle violent extremist groups.

00:02:46.660 However, the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, used the money they raised from their donor network to actually pay the leadership of these very groups.

00:02:56.960 I just want to say that again.

00:02:58.640 They used the fraudulently raised money by lying to their donor network, thousands of Americans, to go ahead and actually pay the leadership of these supposed violent extremist groups.

00:03:10.640 The groups, as the general laid out, include the Ku Klux Klan, the United Klans of America, Unite to Right, National Alliance, the National Socialist Movement, the Aryan Nation Motorcycle Club, and the National Socialist Party of America, and also the American Front.

00:03:28.940 In at least one of these matters, our investigation revealed that funds were used to facilitate the commission of further state and federal offenses, totaling over $3 million.

00:03:43.100 Furthermore, our investigation revealed that the Southern Poverty Law Center, on top of perpetuating this widespread, decade-long, multi-million-dollar fraud, conducted more criminal activity.

00:03:56.620 They attempted to hide their criminal activity from our financial banking network.

00:04:02.660 They set up shell companies and entities around America so that the financial institutions that we rely on as everyday Americans were deceived in believing that money was not coming from the Southern Poverty Law Center in the perpetration of this scheme and fraud, but rather fictitious entities they stood up to perpetuate this ongoing fraud.

00:04:21.460 This is a serious and egregious violation of a group that purported to dismantle violent extremist groups, but in turn actually only fueled the hatred.

00:04:32.940 This is an important case brought by President Trump's administration.

00:04:36.880 We're thankful for the president for his leadership and funding of not just the FBI and DOJ, but his commitment to go out there and wipe out fraud and conspiracy and waste and abuse wherever it occurs, including the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:04:49.400 Even though this money was made to appear to be coming from legitimate people and legitimate entities, we at the FBI, with our great partners at the Department of Justice and in the state of Alabama, were able to comb through a decade worth of material, a scheme that took a decade to build, so that we were able to follow the money, because money never lies, and they got caught.

00:05:12.360 As the attorney general said, these charges are varying.

00:05:16.160 They are widespread and wide ranging.

00:05:18.640 And this investigation is very much ongoing.

00:05:21.560 Today, we're here to announce the charges of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:05:24.720 And this investigation and the individuals who are responsible will be brought to justice.

00:05:28.760 Earlier today, I spoke to my friend Gavin McInnes about this.

00:05:32.160 Gavin, of course, has been targeted by the SPLC.

00:05:35.500 Here's our conversation.

00:05:36.560 well the SPLC has obliquely taken a run at Rebel News several times over the years they've

00:05:45.520 tried to link us to the real targets who are Americans Jack Posobiec is an example

00:05:50.620 but one person they've really gone after hard is our former teammate Gavin McInnes who now of

00:05:59.340 course is on his own in New York City with his own channel I reached out to Gavin because I know he

00:06:04.380 actually sued the Southern Poverty Law Center for their smears against them. And yesterday was a

00:06:10.300 kind of vindication for Gavin that it was a bad faith, sort of black propaganda, false flag 0.65

00:06:19.620 attacks on him. Joining us now from New York is our friend Gavin McInnes. Gavin, what did you make

00:06:24.800 of this massive indictment of the SPLC? Just absolutely incredible in my mind. You're a lot

00:06:30.540 closer to to this issue than me give me your thoughts well it's a huge vindication i mean

00:06:36.940 their allegations had this massive ripple effect where my friend my wife's friends dumped her you

00:06:42.460 know my kid doesn't get into a baseball game they vandalize my house they have town meetings about

00:06:48.220 me all of that stuff the root of it is well the splc says it's a hate group even jarmid singh

00:06:54.860 up in canada declaring the proud boys a hate group well what kind of evidence you have well

00:06:59.100 the splc oh okay and now we realize that not only are their allegations false but they were creating 0.64

00:07:05.900 nazis from scratch they're like a fish pond where you you see the pond with with eggs so you can 0.92

00:07:14.380 fish later on they were living off this fake propaganda and destroying lives in the process 0.99

00:07:21.740 the demand for hate is so high from these ngos these lobby groups and the supply is so low that 0.85

00:07:28.860 that they have to, that's why you've seen so many hoaxes, but this is different than a hoax. 0.90

00:07:33.040 This was literally cultivating through secret payments, the leadership of racist groups that

00:07:40.800 either wouldn't have existed without the SPLC or wouldn't have been as effective. They were playing

00:07:46.440 both sides of it. It would be like rigging a boxing match or spying on the other side's cards

00:07:54.720 in a poker match the spLC raised money to fight against the exact same nazis that they were paying

00:08:02.740 some in some cases they literally highlighted as the enemy of the week people on their own payroll

00:08:10.360 secretly that's the fraud angle that the justice department's pursuing yeah and there's a lot of

00:08:17.340 propaganda from the left here as they cope and lie and purposely misunderstand what's going on

00:08:23.980 And they go like USA Today was saying, oh, they're just they were paying informants.

00:08:29.040 No, that's not a big deal.

00:08:31.200 Kash Patel and the FBI don't announce that someone was paying an informant or infiltrated a group.

00:08:36.300 That's all perfectly legal.

00:08:38.040 This is separate from that.

00:08:39.520 Don't let the leftist media fool you.

00:08:41.740 This is starting a fire and then jumping up and down after you put it out.

00:08:48.320 This is creating a problem.

00:08:50.460 And they had to do that.

00:08:51.420 You know, the SPLC started along in 1970 with MLK.

00:08:56.140 MLK, Martin Luther King, was assassinated.

00:08:58.520 His group, the SCLC, run by Ralph Abernathy, was making a fortune, as they should.

00:09:05.260 So Morris Dees comes along with the SCLC.

00:09:09.140 He finds a random law student named Charles Abernathy and says, hey, we're taking donations.

00:09:15.020 Oh, I heard of you.

00:09:15.940 What, you're the SCLC run by Abernathy?

00:09:18.220 Yeah, yeah, I want to donate.

00:09:19.260 so there were people mistakenly donating to mlk their big their other big uh fundraiser was in 81

00:09:25.100 where they bankrupted the kkk and there was a guy who's a horrific lynching of a guy named michael

00:09:30.920 donald in 1981 and you know this isn't like the old time photos with the straw hat and the bow tie

00:09:36.220 this is like he's wearing air jordans and he's wearing a boston celtics jacket or whatever

00:09:40.560 and so you you see modern clothing on a lynching victim and it's a horrific image and they they

00:09:47.740 raised tens of millions of dollars putting that image in their mail outs but you can only live

00:09:53.880 for so long on 300 million dollars right i got that on me so they had they needed a new picture

00:09:59.860 and that's where they were able to turn a perfectly innocent demonstration about statues which is what 0.75

00:10:05.780 charlottesville started out to be and they turned it into the jews will not replace us with tiki

00:10:10.580 torches everywhere and i my personal estimate is that one photo yeah raised a hundred million 0.83

00:10:18.100 dollars yeah it was terrifying it really looked like an actor in a movie and in fact it was that's

00:10:25.040 what we've learned now that it was an actor those were all actors the tiki torches i think surprised

00:10:29.520 everyone because that was such a strange move and it was so organized and orchestrated and we

00:10:34.460 and then we saw other groups that to you and me were obvious feds but to uh you know scared

00:10:42.900 grandmas to you know to the jews who are scared about real anti-semitism and racism that was

00:10:48.720 enough to scare them to get their checkbooks um it really is a anti-hate really is an industry

00:10:55.620 and and like so many other social industries when it reaches its victory instead of declaring

00:11:02.520 victory and moving on to something else they mission creep or they say well we've got to keep

00:11:06.600 this gig going it's like lgbt2 qsl plus they've won everything ever but instead of packing it up

00:11:15.880 and going home they say oh we've got to push the q and the t and the plus now i think the southern

00:11:20.500 poverty law center they may have done some good along the way almost accidentally but they the

00:11:26.840 mission creep and they said well we have to make our own success let us plant little seedlings of

00:11:32.600 hatred that then will come back and and like they they are the single largest funder of nazis in

00:11:41.560 america i think that's now legitimate to say isn't it nuts it's a scheme in in every way it's a ponzi

00:11:49.140 scheme in that there's nothing there there's no hate there to cash in on right and it's an affinity

00:11:56.060 scheme in that i wouldn't call the sblc a jewish organization started by more sds but it is 0.59

00:12:01.180 disproportionately jewish and they're preying on old scared jewish men and women who have

00:12:07.500 justifiable ptsd from their parents stories about auschwitz etc and they say to them there's nazis 0.60

00:12:13.180 everywhere and they're going to get you and these poor old people are like okay well can you stop

00:12:18.140 them i can but it's going to take a lot of money so they just keep writing these checks it's an 0.97

00:12:22.860 affinity scheme where it's it's a disproportionate jewish uh you know predator going on disproportionately

00:12:29.820 jewish donors and scaring them with lies like they one of their main guys was the head of the 0.71

00:12:35.160 american nazi party they gave him 70 grand to be the head of the american nazi party 0.94

00:12:40.040 you know that idea of creating your own enemies like a ventriloquist arguing with its doll

00:12:47.880 that goes back a long time in canada also yes you might find this hard to believe but in the

00:12:54.200 60s and 70s the canadian jewish congress funded in part the canadian nazi party and then in the

00:13:02.440 80s something called the heritage front the heritage front the leader not just some middle

00:13:09.320 ranking informant but the leader was a cesus agent named grant bristow in the 90s the canadian

00:13:17.480 Human Rights Commission had an anti-hate investigator named Richard Warman who would

00:13:21.880 join these Nazi groups like Vanguard and Stormfront, publish endless anti-Semitic, racist, anti-gay

00:13:28.980 stuff to entrap people to then prosecute at the Human Rights Commission. So those are three or

00:13:35.080 four examples going back 70 years. This is a tactic that the anti-hate does to justify their

00:13:43.760 existence it's super gross and none of it is legitimate police work informant stuff informants

00:13:49.460 have extremely strict rules around what they can do they cannot uh they can there's certain

00:13:55.460 offenses they cannot uh violate uh for the splc to say oh we were just being undercover cops you're

00:14:02.080 not cops at all they it's it's so gross but my point gavin is that it happens in canada too

00:14:09.460 that's i'm so glad you brought that up that was my entire adolescence i was a punk rocker in

00:14:14.820 ottawa and montreal and uh they're the the heritage front they got all this money to fight

00:14:21.580 skinheads there's no skinheads so they start putting out pamphlets going don't you think 0.92

00:14:24.920 it's weird the jews run the media and the banks and all the clan wants to do is retain their 0.92

00:14:30.440 sovereignty and blah blah blah and they make nazi skinheadism sound pretty good so they end up 0.91

00:14:37.320 creating nazis when i was a teenager there was nazi skinheads everywhere and it couldn't have

00:14:43.900 canada was much whiter in 1984 or 5 than it is today so you had these nazis one guy was named

00:14:50.520 wolf he had a cane with a rapier in the in the cane uh there was francois on his back there was 0.92

00:14:58.780 a klansman rally there was klansman on horses chasing like a fox down his butt crack that was

00:15:04.740 entire back was a clansman scene this is a french canadian boy he's probably 18 years old then there

00:15:11.340 was joff who ran the whole scene and he would regularly go down to america to get guns he had

00:15:17.160 all kinds of automatic weapons from the american militia this was all because of cesus the canadian

00:15:22.720 government and the heritage foundation and it took bfg bunch of effing goofs a gang of punks from

00:15:29.100 toronto to go in a school bus and start beating them all up because they were dominating our

00:15:33.980 lives and this was all because of the heritage foundation so these people in under the banner

00:15:40.060 of fighting hate are creating hate from scratch not getting informants not sending in spies

00:15:46.440 creating hate from scratch yeah and the irony is canada and the united states were very placid

00:15:53.840 peaceful harmonious places i'm not saying race relations were perfect and there were issues in

00:15:59.120 the states that we didn't have up here um with the urban black population there there were

00:16:03.980 tensions that we just we didn't have the same history in camp we just didn't but things were 1.00

00:16:09.460 pretty good and they had to manufacture the hate well here we are in the era of mass immigration

00:16:15.060 and there actually is a ton of hatred and i'm not talking about make-believe i'm in toronto there's

00:16:21.800 synagogue being shot at with gunfire every other week schools um let alone more minor crimes of

00:16:30.380 vandalism trespass and these anti-hate groups never go after the mass immigration fountain

00:16:40.360 of hatred which i think is real so you've got this fake project to look for haters in the 0.62

00:16:47.520 old stock canadian and american population i.e rednecks white guys but they assiduously avert 0.62

00:16:56.880 their eyes from the people they're in in writing here from countries that are 99 anti-semitic

00:17:03.760 pew research occasionally surveys third world countries how do you feel about jews how do you

00:17:09.380 feel about gays how do you feel about women countries like pakistan afghanistan those are

00:17:14.440 99% anti-Semitic. Are you surprised when Pakistan, Afghanistan, Algeria are your enormous sources of 0.62

00:17:21.380 immigration that they bring with them their ancient culture? So you don't see the SPLC going

00:17:27.140 after them. I don't know why. Maybe they're too afraid to. Well, there is a lot of racism in this

00:17:33.460 country here in America, and it's anti-white racism. We almost have an apartheid in our

00:17:39.260 justice system where someone will murder, you know, a black guy will murder someone and he'll 0.99

00:17:44.240 get away with probation because he know not what he do yet you have someone who makes an unfortunate 0.99

00:17:49.820 joke online and she's looking at much much longer sentences you know one of the reasons the justice 0.52

00:17:56.980 system is so much harder on whites despite you know it sounds counterintuitive but that's the 0.97

00:18:01.980 way it is and it's because they don't want to appear that they're with their own yet a black 0.64

00:18:06.280 jury will happily side with their tribe and let a guy go so that's the only racism you see in 0.78

00:18:11.820 america and as far as anti-semitism it's the new refugees from pakistan who are 99 uh anti-semitic 0.87

00:18:18.340 it's the marxist students who contain a lot of jews by the way yeah who've been brainwashed 0.69

00:18:23.100 into thinking that that everything is white versus brown and rich versus poor so jews are rich and 0.99

00:18:28.380 white so they must be the bad guys in every situation and it's it's a lot of blm type black 0.98

00:18:34.080 activists hate jews they hate whites they see jews as the ultimate whites really so the unfortunate 0.99

00:18:39.280 thing for the radical left is all of the bad guys are not wearing mega hats they're your friends 0.98

00:18:46.300 they are the marxists you created they are the radical leftist college kids that you harbored 0.99

00:18:53.600 and it's all your favorite pets your refugees and your cool black guys they are the racists 1.00

00:18:59.940 and the anti-semites and they are the only ones festering hate in this country and that they hate 0.99

00:19:06.060 they hate that they hate that there's no mega hats at the at the anti-semitic rallies and they

00:19:12.120 hate that there's no clan there's no clan it's not a thing yeah yeah um i i saw a tweet today

00:19:21.660 that reminded me that david duke the longtime uh kkk leader attended a nick fuentes event and

00:19:29.360 And the implication was that maybe Nick Fuentes and this new wave of podcaster online anti-Semites are also false flags that are funded.

00:19:41.300 Now, maybe they don't know where their funding comes from, but the presence of like, let me just ask you straight up.

00:19:47.740 Do you think that the Nick Fuentes of the world are funded the way the SPLC was funding other haters?

00:19:56.680 Or do you think they genuinely either believe what they're saying or it's such a good grift, it's working for them, so they're going to say it anyways?

00:20:06.120 Or do you think they're part of the op? 0.58

00:20:08.300 I think one way to tell is when they're very gentle on Islam.

00:20:13.140 Now, Nick Fuentes, he's not gentle on Islam.

00:20:16.260 I get the feeling that he's peeling away from the rabid anti-Semitism.

00:20:21.980 He definitely thinks Israel has way too much influence in American politics.

00:20:25.380 uh and i don't think he's a spy but this is the problem right you're guessing it's ghost town now

00:20:31.260 everyone could be a ghost but i know nick and uh we argue about the jq regularly and i i think he's 0.52

00:20:38.660 coming to his senses in many ways but when a lot of his followers these groipers are just completely 0.86

00:20:45.940 blind to islam it's all the jews the jews have ruined everything and islam is wonderful and 0.99

00:20:52.760 that's when you can tell it's it's qatar it's qatar propaganda it's saudi arabian propaganda 1.00

00:20:58.720 you know look at the way tommy is talked about on the internet it's not really on his radar

00:21:05.120 he talks about jews about as much as the rest of us talk about the amish yet any mention of online 0.93

00:21:10.800 and this is very recent is goy jew ass liquor blah blah blah and they've obviously been heavily 0.97

00:21:18.060 influenced by this islamic propaganda and it works on young men yeah you know what i hate about it 0.95

00:21:26.360 is there's this aspiring neo-nazi in canada 18 year old guy tyler hawkley is his name he actually

00:21:33.600 wanted to work for rebel news that didn't uh go is that the diagonalon guy uh there's some kid out

00:21:40.800 in bc and so he's he's trying to mimic his heroes like sneko and these other anti-semites on the

00:21:48.040 right and the whole shtick this is what i find deeply demoralizing he was interviewing some

00:21:52.960 other youngster who said i hate the jews because the jews stole my girlfriend now i don't believe

00:21:59.100 the story this this guy uh had very low uh looks maxing as the kids would say um and i don't know 0.61

00:22:06.820 what it means the jews stole my girlfriend it was it like a panel of rabbis that came in

00:22:11.800 and i don't believe any of it but let's say it was true so what you're saying is you you didn't 0.95

00:22:19.620 you couldn't keep your girlfriend i mean there's this lack of personal responsibility as andrew 0.75

00:22:25.740 tate said the other day oh what jew came to your house and stopped you from going to the gym today

00:22:30.780 you know at at its root all this anti-semitism is every fault every problem in society is

00:22:39.480 the jews this cosmic force i'm not to blame for anything i'm not the captain of my fate someone 0.59

00:22:46.080 else is and even donald trump isn't the captain of his fate we're all puppets and we have no

00:22:51.480 moral responsibility for our setbacks i find it the victim mentality of the left and all these

00:22:58.840 young men who should be proud doers achievers risk takers taking responsibility they say oh

00:23:06.120 the jews did it what can i do i'm poor because of the jews this war because of the jews i lost my 0.95

00:23:11.140 girlfriend because of the jews it's a victim mentality yeah and it's it makes them into the

00:23:16.780 jews into these supreme commanders who can rule everything and i was arguing about this on x 0.97

00:23:20.800 recently where i said okay the jews have ruined the american family ruined marriage they hate 1.00

00:23:24.520 they hate white christians they don't want whites to exist let's get revenge on them let's get 1.00

00:23:29.820 married and have seven kids six kids and they go fuck oh sorry they say f that i'm not going to 1.00

00:23:35.980 fall for their thing they made it impossible and i'm like okay then win like the best revenge is 0.99

00:23:41.700 to live well so if there's an exterior force trying to stop you from getting married and having kids

00:23:47.320 then stick it to them yeah get married and have kids like that's the best thing you can do because

00:23:52.320 then they have more christian kids and they have more christian kids i mean that's the victory in

00:23:57.760 israel against palestine is they were losing the the geographic the the demographic race and then

00:24:03.260 they started having more kids so let's win against these evil globalists who are trying to destroy us

00:24:09.180 and get married and have kids you know this whole like no kings thing as scott adams pointed out

00:24:15.080 you make trump into a king like you clearly look up to him as this god if you say king it puts king

00:24:22.760 in your head and you go okay so you clearly see him as this sort of reigning monarch who who who

00:24:29.620 runs your life i even i saw just to be a megalomaniac i saw someone talking about this

00:24:33.860 concert i was at cheap trick and they were saying uh gavin showed up and he had surrounded by six

00:24:39.880 guys his henchmen and you could see he's looking over his shoulder and i almost punched him and

00:24:44.660 then he ran back to the bar and he hid there uh drinking near security so that no one would get

00:24:49.440 him like none of that is true i was at that concert i don't have six henchmen what are you

00:24:54.700 talking about and yeah we went to the bar to get a drink but the whole way you've portrayed me shows

00:24:59.920 you see me as this like this god who showed up and had an entourage and you you added all this

00:25:07.260 drama you imbue all this drama onto other people because yeah i don't know you see them as

00:25:12.800 supernatural so stop doing that like run your own life get your own revenge be your own man

00:25:19.480 Even the whole concept of they came here and they, you know, I was a slave 400 years ago.

00:25:24.620 The white man stole me and then he's held me down ever since.

00:25:28.700 I've only recently managed to eke out a living post Jim Crow. 1.00

00:25:32.620 And I'm like, you sound like a pussy. 1.00

00:25:34.440 My dad grew up with shoes that were his brother's shoes. 1.00

00:25:37.900 They were so small.

00:25:38.780 His toes look like Chinese foot binding to this day.

00:25:42.340 His Christmas present was a school uniform. 1.00

00:25:45.340 And that guy made tons of money busting his ass. 0.99

00:25:48.340 you you're still waiting from 400 years ago or even the native americans we were sitting here 0.99

00:25:54.580 smoking peace pipes and then you came along and chopped our heads off and took our land

00:25:58.440 you sound like a wimp now the truth is we fought them for 300 plus years and eventually sort of

00:26:04.920 won but uh this this victim mentality is a wimp mentality and it's it's very anti-western i think 0.96

00:26:11.760 it's gay you know elon musk himself said all of us are descendants of slaves slavery was on every 0.75

00:26:20.080 continent um yeah and to to say well we can't get up and can't do anything i think one of the things 0.85

00:26:26.340 that i like about the jews is to go through the horrors of the holocaust and to get back on your 0.81

00:26:33.020 feet not to engage in endless retaliatory terrorism as maybe the palestinians do or not to uh you know 0.83

00:26:40.880 i mean jews are known for complaining i suppose but get up and and do it get up and make something

00:26:46.340 of yourself the world is your oyster america is the land of opportunity you know jordan peterson

00:26:51.340 uh he's he's been absent from the public stage recently but really what broke him through was

00:26:57.600 young men and if you read his book which was sort of tough going for me his first lesson is stand up

00:27:03.800 straight with your shoulders back and the second lesson is clean your room and that's me he stole

00:27:10.600 that from me by the way i just want that my point is that's basic building blocks to how to be a man

00:27:17.000 as opposed to blame others now we've gotten far afield and i know your time is precious let's

00:27:20.660 bring it back to the spLC um is it likely that the spLC was the only organization doing this there's

00:27:27.980 also another organization in the states called the adl the anti-defamation league which is more

00:27:32.480 Jewish in character. And remember that their current boss, Greenblatt, was a former senior

00:27:38.180 staffer to Barack Obama. So the idea that he's not using the ADL as a political weapon is

00:27:43.740 unthinkable to me. I think that a lot of organizations, whether it's a censorship

00:27:47.980 organization, a social service organization, I think that a lot of them did similar things to

00:27:54.960 the SPLC. I think that they have kept us in a constant state of agitation, demoralization,

00:28:01.460 accusation i think this is just the stepping the starting uh square i think there's so much more

00:28:09.040 to be found here that's just my hunch what do you think i think spreading hate is good business and

00:28:14.840 that's what the spLC does they they've got a massive chart with all the little pins where

00:28:19.580 hate is and you look at it you go oh my god north america is a hate festival it's very depressing

00:28:24.160 and nihilistic but it's good money and the adl can't resist that money in britain they've got

00:28:29.460 hope not hate and then there's all these sub groups when someone leaves the splc they go to

00:28:34.320 some anti-hate think tank and these are all smaller businesses than the costco and the walmart 0.97

00:28:41.420 of splc and adl but it's it's a major industry if you're a weak horrible demonic atheist who wants 0.94

00:28:50.780 to profit off of lies and and you know it's funny that they they call us these these hate 0.94

00:28:57.080 that are doing it for clicks or something meanwhile they that's exactly what they're doing

00:29:02.240 they are creating hate and profiting off it while pointing fingers at guys like you and i and saying

00:29:07.740 they're profiting off of hate um let me ask you i mean you were the original uh creator of the idea

00:29:15.940 of the proud boys and i know you have since stepped away from that and and renounced them as they

00:29:20.620 maybe let's put that aside for a second let me ask you are there any revelations or or have you

00:29:28.020 had any revelations about proud boys being infiltrated by government agents from the

00:29:34.700 sps lc adl or other places fbi whatever what what was your own experience looking back now do you

00:29:41.940 think you were entrapped in some ways or tricked or something well there was definitely a big push

00:29:48.220 to get them to go to Charlottesville and my whole lawsuit with the SPLC is inexorably linked to the

00:29:54.220 Proud Boys I mean they I was never mentioned on SPLC without the club next to it but the club the

00:29:59.900 Proud Boys have always been aware of that in fact at every meetup there's jokes about is this guy a

00:30:04.580 fed and one of the running jokes with the the boys is uh we we pretend to be a fed and go can you

00:30:10.100 imagine a fed came to this and it's just guys doing nose beers and shots and making fart jokes

00:30:15.520 and he wants to hang out with us because we're so funny and he's like hey guys i'm saying to the

00:30:20.500 fbi bosses i'm almost there i just need another couple months there's something big in the work

00:30:25.880 sort of like whitey bulger because there's nothing there and it must be a great like you you embed 0.99

00:30:31.660 yourself with the mongols you're gonna have to kill someone you embed yourself with the hell's 1.00

00:30:35.900 angels you're gonna have to sell mess and risk getting shot at you embed yourself with the proud 1.00

00:30:40.620 boys you better have some good nasty jokes some good racist jokes or you're going to be out on 1.00

00:30:46.340 your ass well we're going to have to look around up here in canada because there is a canadian 0.99

00:30:51.320 branch plant of the splc called the canadian anti-hate network and um they they got started 0.99

00:30:58.280 with a grant from the splc that that's wow public knowledge and since then they've had multiple

00:31:04.960 six-figure contracts from the government of canada what's interesting is whenever they're asked why

00:31:09.660 do you only inspect conservatives and ignore this tsunami of hatred from the woke left and the

00:31:16.900 anti-Semitic arrivals they say oh our focus is on the right I mean they deliberately say we're

00:31:23.340 turning a blind eye to the real source of hatred but I think that they've done similar things to

00:31:28.560 the SPLC and I wonder if that'll ever see the light of day I just in many ways Canada's copying

00:31:34.160 the states i'm glad you brought that up because there we have no idea how much money there is if

00:31:39.840 you look up the sblc i think they they announced they're worth 300 400 million dollars that doesn't

00:31:45.300 include all the offshore accounts and it doesn't include all the fake companies they use to pay

00:31:50.560 these fake nazis and i'm sure i i bet you bet your bottom dollar that this canadian division

00:31:56.080 is also a money laundering thing which is they got from soros right you just have these infinite

00:32:01.680 different llcs to launder your money through and i think the splc's real core value is well over a

00:32:09.280 billion dollars and it's all based on lies very interesting well i mean let me close on this is

00:32:16.160 the the alt-right if i'm using that phrase right that has been hating trump a lot lately

00:32:22.100 they've got to be thinking this is the most awesome investigation and prosecution completely

00:32:28.140 unthinkable under a democratic regime but one that cuts to the core of leftist extremism in

00:32:34.380 America. Only Donald Trump and only Kash Patel as the FBI director could do something like this

00:32:40.820 and every once in a while there's something so valuable and so important that Trump should

00:32:45.920 forever be known for that success. I think Venezuela might turn out to be that. When Cuba

00:32:51.480 falls I think it could be that. I think stopping the border is obviously by far is most important. 0.99

00:32:57.320 some of his supreme court appointments like there's each one of these um would be enough

00:33:02.860 to have a successful presidency but doge you know i still have some hope for it but for you know to 0.84

00:33:11.780 ban girls boys in girls locker rooms and sports that alone probably affects more lives than almost

00:33:18.560 anything else you and i could think about but for him to go straight for the heart of darkness here

00:33:23.480 the money fountain that that attacks the right everyone right of center should eternally thank

00:33:30.760 trump and cash patel for this that's my view as a foreigner yeah i've watched all my friends jump

00:33:36.180 off the trump train i'm still sitting on the top like a pajit on the indian railroad i'm still

00:33:41.640 holding on uh the wind in my hair even my own family is jumping off the trump train but i've

00:33:47.700 i've got my ear to the ground still and i can hear a lot of the anti-trumpers going okay this

00:33:52.260 one was awesome this is definitely a win i'll i'll give you that i'll give you that tucker

00:33:58.020 carlson basically laments that he didn't support kamala harris in the last election

00:34:02.620 he would have tucker carlson in jail ezra i keep saying that if you are if you hate israel

00:34:11.380 and jews are your enemy by all means vote for the democratic party they share your values that's

00:34:18.100 everything you need you want israel off the books vote democrat those are your people i don't

00:34:23.460 understand what you're doing over here if that's your priority yeah it's very strange well listen

00:34:28.260 great to catch up with you this is i wanted to call you for today's show because i thought of

00:34:33.820 you immediately when i saw this i was so impressed with this it really is a moment and i don't think

00:34:39.020 it'll get one minute's worth of time on the canadian mainstream media other than probably

00:34:42.960 reframed as trump going after a civil rights organization uh they'll they'll phrase it that

00:34:48.580 way but it's big news thanks for joining us today my friend thanks for having me ezra all right

00:34:53.060 there he is gavin mckinnis and uh who battled the spLC with a lawsuit that's our show for the day

00:35:00.240 until next time on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to you at home good

00:35:05.100 night and keep fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - April 22, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ When fighting hate means funding it, the system is broken

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