Rebel News Podcast - September 29, 2026


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Who governs Mars？ The answer is in a SpaceX filing, a 1949 novel and a terms-of-service page

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Ed Miliband Elon Musk Barbara Kay Zach Polanski Andy Burnham Danny Tomo SpaceX Moon Zach Polanski's Greens Werner Von Braun Christopher Columbus Winston Churchill Natasha Hausdorff Antonio Guterres Muammar Gaddafi Lauren Sanchez Saddam Hussein Zoran Mamdani Barack Obama Donald Trump and 12 more
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00:00:00 Hello, my friends. You know what? I came across something really funny in a Starlink Terms of Service.
00:00:07 Starlink's, of course, Elon Musk's satellite internet company, and the Terms of Service, as you know,
00:00:11 is what you click agree on to use a service, and it talks about Mars and how laws and lawsuits will be handled in Mars.
00:00:23 You know, I'd sort of maybe do a double take. I'll take you through it. I'll show you the Martian law.
00:00:29 you have to agree to, to use Starlink.
00:00:32 It's sort of fun.
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00:00:59 Tonight, SpaceX has told the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that Elon Musk gets a billion
00:01:10 shares when a million people live on Mars. It's September 29th, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:16 Shame on you, you sensorism bug.
00:01:29 you may have seen this going around a tick tock video about the terms of service
00:01:35 for starlink that's elon musk's satellite internet company buried in the legal boilerplate in their
00:01:42 terms of service is a section called governing law and there's a paragraph about mars the planet
00:01:50 now i first saw this on tiktok so i didn't believe it but when i went onto the company's website to
00:01:55 check for myself. It is real. It is on Starlink's website right now. I'll read it to you. The
00:02:01 language is, for services provided to, on, or in orbit around the planet Earth or the Moon,
00:02:10 this agreement will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the state of Texas.
00:02:18 So far, so normal. Texas law, even on the Moon, which is sort of fun when you think about it.
00:02:23 But then it says, for services provided on Mars or in transit to Mars via starship or other
00:02:30 spacecraft, the parties recognize Mars as a free planet and that no Earth-based government has
00:02:38 authority or sovereignty over Martian activities. Accordingly, disputes will be settled through
00:02:43 self-governing principles established in good faith at the time of Martian settlement.
00:02:49 That really is in the terms of service that you have to accept to use the product.
00:02:55 Mars is a free planet.
00:02:56 In a contract, you have to click, I agree to this, so you can still use satellite internet.
00:03:02 Think about what that sentence is doing.
00:03:04 It's so much fun.
00:03:04 Earth, well, if you're on Earth, the laws of Texas apply.
00:03:08 If you're on the moon, the laws of Texas apply.
00:03:11 If you're on Mars, a self-governing people, Martians is what they're being called.
00:03:15 i think the response on tiktok was mainly amusement people thought it was funny
00:03:20 space lawyers there is such a thing wrote op-eds saying it's meaningless and technically they're
00:03:25 right there's a treaty the outer space treaty of 1967 article 2 says no nation can claim the moon
00:03:33 or any other celestial body article 6 says every country is responsible for what its private
00:03:39 companies do up there so on paper washington answers for whatever spacex does on mars
00:03:46 a terms of service page can't really change that fine it's a bit of musk whimsy except
00:03:52 it's not because this brings spacex file to go public that means a prospective called the s1
00:03:59 filed with the securities and exchange commission sworn lawyered it's a promise of these are true
00:04:06 facts about the company. It's the most serious document a company ever writes because you're
00:04:10 explaining the truth about the company. You're disclosing everything to prospective investors.
00:04:16 And in it, the board says it will grant Elon Musk 1 billion restricted shares worth about $165
00:04:24 billion. But they only vest, he only gets them if SpaceX hits its targets, market value of up to
00:04:32 7.5 trillion. And there's more though. Here's one. A permanent human colony on Mars with at least
00:04:43 1 million inhabitants. That's not TikTok. That is a securities filing. Investors are being asked to
00:04:50 price a city on another planet. So here's the thing. The Starlink Clause was never really a
00:04:57 legal document. It's a recruiting poster. It's the first line of a story. And the story is there's a
00:05:02 new world and nobody owns it yet, come and rediscover your sense of wonder and possibility.
00:05:07 Just for a moment, daydream about an adventure when you're clicking, if you're actually reading
00:05:11 the terms of service. And the question isn't whether a million people would go. I thought
00:05:14 about this. Of course they would. I mean, you couldn't get a million people to move to Baffin
00:05:21 Island. Nobody's lining up for Antarctica. But I think that's the point. Those places are still
00:05:27 on the earth. They're just the cold bits of an earth we already know. I mean, they're cool places
00:05:32 to visit, but you're not going to move there. But Mars is another thing that the thing mankind
00:05:38 hasn't had in more than a century, I think, a frontier, a place with no map written. People
00:05:45 used to seek adventure. I mean, when Winston Churchill, as a young man, he fought in India,
00:05:49 in the Sudan, in South Africa. He escaped from a prisoner of war camp. He filed newspaper
00:05:55 dispatches the whole time that that was one man's 20s adventure war discovery swashbuckling but
00:06:02 even in the 1890s and 1900s the world was pretty much all discovered you have to go back further
00:06:09 I mean remember the men who sailed with Cortez to discover the new world a few hundred of them
00:06:14 some were soldiers yes but there were also adventurers entrepreneurs misfits schemers
00:06:20 dreamers second sons with no inheritance people who looked at everything they had and
00:06:25 decided the unknown was more interesting. I think if you would ask 8 billion people,
00:06:32 hands up, would you go to Mars? I think you would get a million people saying,
00:06:36 yeah, I'm in, for whatever their own reason would be. Now, who's actually building the spaceship?
00:06:43 By most counts, SpaceX puts somewhere between 85 or 90% of everything humanity launches into orbit.
00:06:50 Not the government of America, one company.
00:06:54 Take Elon Musk out of the picture, and who's in first place? 0.54
00:06:57 China.
00:06:59 And don't underestimate China.
00:07:00 In 2019, China put a lander on the far side of the moon, first time ever done.
00:07:07 And five years later, in 2024, they did it again and brought rocks home, first ever.
00:07:12 The U.S. has not done that.
00:07:15 In 2021, China landed a rover on Mars, only the second country in history to do it.
00:07:22 So if you think the Chinese Communist Party wouldn't love to plant its flag on the red planet first and then tell us what the rules are, well, you haven't been paying attention. 0.64
00:07:31 I think we're in a space race again against China, not against Russia.
00:07:35 Which brings us back to who governs Mars, because it's not actually going to be decided by a treaty settled in 1967.
00:07:44 them. Here's something that really gets mentioned. Musk isn't just Tesla and Starlink and rockets
00:07:51 and tunnels. There's a division called Star Shield. Have you ever heard of that? That's
00:07:56 the classified side. That's the spy satellites, the military satellites for the National Reconnaissance
00:08:02 Office. That's a reported $1.8 billion contract military communications for the U.S. Space Force,
00:08:09 billions more this year don't think for a moment that the space force remember trump
00:08:15 inventors the army and the marines and they're now their space force don't think for a second
00:08:20 they aren't interested in mars of course they are the question is though i think who who shows up
00:08:28 first china and america and i think just as important is what kind of america shows up here's
00:08:34 what i mean by that i think there's sort of two americas when it comes with dealing with other
00:08:37 countries and other planets. There's the one America that built the internet at the Pentagon's
00:08:44 research agency called DARPA. And then there's the other America that, for example, back in
00:08:49 2016 under Barack Obama, quietly gave up U.S. oversight of the internet's naming system and
00:08:57 handed it to a global multi-stakeholder community. Just let the monopoly expire, gave it really to
00:09:04 China. Well, look at the UK these days, the Chagos Islands, a military base in the middle of the
00:09:09 Indian Ocean, very valuable to the US. And the UK just signed a deal to hand the islands to
00:09:15 Mauritius and pay them 100 million pounds a year. And critics say the real bill is going to be many
00:09:21 times. Now that deal's on hold right now because Donald Trump called it terrible. But my point is
00:09:26 that there's two sort of instincts in the West. One of them is sort of a suicidal gene in the
00:09:31 liberal west a reflex to give things away to undermine your own country to apologize for
00:09:36 everything your country's achieved do you see my point which america is going to go to mars
00:09:41 the chagos and hand the internet over to china version of america or the 1960s america the one
00:09:50 that heard kennedy say we choose to go to the moon and then just did it because it was hard and
00:09:55 because it was america's to do and because they wanted to get there before the commies did
00:09:59 and then the real question once you're there who runs the place is it a company town spacex as a
00:10:06 landlord and a government is a democracy what constitution what courts i mean musk has actually
00:10:12 answered some of this not in detail but in principle he said martians will decide their
00:10:18 own government he recommends direct democracy not representative democracy because he says there's
00:10:23 too many politicians as there is, and laws that are short and simple enough for anyone to read.
00:10:29 Okay, that's a good idea. Maybe we should try that down here on Earth. And then there's the part that
00:10:34 sounds made up. You know, after the Second World War, there was a scramble to get all the German
00:10:39 rocket scientists because they were sending the V1s and V2s. They were way ahead of the West in 0.60
00:10:45 rocketry. So in 1949, Werner von Braun, who was the German rocket scientist who was brought to
00:10:51 America and later built America's Saturn V, he wrote a novel about the first expedition to Mars.
00:10:58 And it sat in a drawer for decades. It wasn't published in English until 2006, I think.
00:11:05 In it, the Martian humans have a government, 10 members elected by universal suffrage,
00:11:11 five-year terms, and the head of that government has a title, the Elon.
00:11:17 on. Musk's father says that's where the name came from. Make of that what you like. Now who actually
00:11:24 goes to Mars at first? Well it would be extremely expensive to be the first amongst the first going
00:11:31 there. So I think the first Martians would either be rich or people who are so valuable that someone
00:11:37 else pays their fare. Engineers, doctors, pilots, people who are physically and mentally strong.
00:11:42 that's going to shape a culture of humans up there a colony of astronauts not tourists really
00:11:49 compare that to jeff bezos's rocket last year where katy perry and his girlfriend lauren sanchez
00:11:54 went up 10 minutes and 21 seconds up weightless down kiss the dirt hold up a daisy the transportation
00:12:02 secretary asked fairly whether they were astronauts at all so that's not exploration that's a theme
00:12:07 Park for billionaires. But Elon Musk is the other thing. He is deadly serious. His timeline slipped
00:12:13 from, it's true, he said 50-50 on an uncrewed starship to Mars this year and it didn't happen.
00:12:19 He's now saying the moon first, a city there in under 10 years, and Mars starting within five to
00:12:24 seven. Now he's been late on things and he delivers on everything. Isn't that funny? I mean, tell me
00:12:30 a promise he's made that he hasn't kept or is in the process of keeping. Would you ever bet against
00:12:35 him let me tell you where i stand on this personally i like earth i like the water and
00:12:41 the air i like green and blue i don't want to live in a dusty red dry planet i love the forest and
00:12:45 the oceans and the critters most of all i like the people and i like the culture built by all the
00:12:50 people who came before us i like old things like the cathedrals and the common law and
00:12:55 just stuff that people poured their hearts into hockey rinks i don't know
00:13:00 the history we're a link in a chain that goes back before history none of that is on mars
00:13:06 there's no history on mars on mars there's no one who came before you you would be the first
00:13:13 builders think about what it would be like to be the first child born on mars in one sense an orphan
00:13:19 no past to lean on no old country no graveyard with your grandparents in it everything has to
00:13:24 be made from scratch, from nothing, by the people standing there. I think that's terrifying for a lot
00:13:30 of people. But for a certain kind of person, I think it's the most thrilling thing they would
00:13:34 ever do. That's what the Starlink Clause is really for. It's not law. It's almost a dare, or an
00:13:41 invitation, or a promise. It's there to make a few hundred thousand people out of a billion,
00:13:48 sit up straighter, enough to fill the ships when there are ships. Elon Musk is already the most
00:13:53 consequential man of our age if he actually pulls this off he's not just the richest man he'll be
00:14:00 the most consequential man since christopher columbus and here's my question for you not
00:14:07 whether it'll happen it's whether you would go be honest if the ship were leaving if there was a seat
00:14:13 and if you knew you'd never see a forest again would you go
00:14:16 to mars would you put your hand up let me know
00:14:23 Well, you know, a lot of people instinctively do what they see everyone else doing as a kind of
00:14:33 ritual. For example, giving a land acknowledgement. There's hardly a political or bureaucratic figure
00:14:39 or even a school principal who won't start an assembly with a land acknowledgement. And they
00:14:45 do it because everyone else is doing it and they don't want to be called out for not doing it.
00:14:49 The trouble is, if you keep saying words and words and words, someone's going to listen
00:14:55 and say, well, you must mean it, because you keep saying it, so it's time to do it.
00:15:03 We saw that, for example, in the climate debate.
00:15:06 If you acknowledge that man is guilty of climate change, if you say that long enough, someone's
00:15:12 going to say, well, then it's time to de-industrialize, de-grow, time to stop oil and keep it in the
00:15:18 ground. And if you say that with a land acknowledgement, I think that's the most acute
00:15:24 case. Well, what happens if Indigenous activists and then later courts say, well, they said
00:15:30 they want to give the land back. They say that we're on land that belongs to Indigenous
00:15:33 people. Maybe we're going to invent a new Indigenous title. My point in both of those
00:15:38 examples, the climate change hysteria and the land title issue, is people don't understand
00:15:47 how quickly words can become actions.
00:15:49 And I say this because the United Nations,
00:15:52 which I think some people regard
00:15:54 as a harmless, if offensive, talk shop,
00:15:57 if they say something again and again for 25 years,
00:16:02 maybe it's actually going to seep into real life.
00:16:05 And I think that's the case with our story today.
00:16:08 Our dear friend Barbara Kay,
00:16:09 a columnist at the National Post, wrote this essay,
00:16:12 Shame on the UN for commemorating 25 years of toxic anti-Zionism.
00:16:20 And she joins us now via Zoom.
00:16:22 Barbara, my thesis, and I sort of muddled it a bit there, was you can't just say it's only talk.
00:16:29 It's just a talk shop.
00:16:29 Because if you have this many institutional people, this many people in high office saying something,
00:16:35 sooner or later, people are going to call their bluff and say, well, if you say it, you mean it.
00:16:40 If you mean it, then do it.
00:16:42 Well, yes. The original Durban conference was an attempt to resuscitate the 1975 resolution at the UN that Zionism is racism, and that was rescinded in 1991, so the Durban conference was there to bring it back. 0.82
00:17:03 And they did mean it. They did mean it. And that whole conference was like a three day or three week, whatever it was, Kristallnacht. It was a terrible anti-Semitic hate fest. And now they kept pushing it. 0.96
00:17:24 That was where the BDS movement started. The International Criminal Court got involved. They were trying very hard to actually criminalize the state of Israel. And all their efforts have been bent in that direction for 25 years. And they keep having these reunions at Durban retrospectives.
00:17:47 They had it for the fifth year, the 10th year, and now it's the 25th year.
00:17:52 And the only good news is that each time they have a mark, one of the anniversaries of the Durban conference, fewer countries attend.
00:18:04 And so the good news is that when they had the one yesterday, there were only, I think, 46 countries did not attend and the audience was pretty sparse.
00:18:15 So that's the good news.
00:18:17 But they keep at it.
00:18:18 They just, these are, this is the UN sponsored this NGO forum.
00:18:25 The NGO forum that was at the Durban conference was a hotbed of anti-Semitism featuring pictures of Adolf Hitler and selling the protocols of the elders of Zion.
00:18:40 Just an unbelievable, an unbelievable display of hatred.
00:18:45 uh so they're they're um this is not rhetoric they really mean it they really want to dismantle the
00:18:55 state of israel well the fact that it was a un conference in the first place tells you how
00:19:01 widespread the problem is one of the impetus that one of the i'd say the major impetus
00:19:06 for the un being formed was after not just the second world war but in particular the holocaust
00:19:12 and you know the the idea of universal human rights a lot of that came out of the the massacre
00:19:19 the atrocities of the of the holocaust and yet to to basically say zionism which is the essence of
00:19:27 of judaism that there is a holy land that the bible story is true and that's the promised land
00:19:33 promised to the jewish people to to say that anti-zionism is anything other than anti-semitism
00:19:38 is as weird as if someone said i like italians i just hate italy like it just it just doesn't
00:19:45 make any sense so the un is trying to codify that because they're trying to get around admitting
00:19:52 that it's just about getting jews i think but my point is you say this decade after decade after
00:19:58 decade it starts to seep in to real decision making legislatures real parliaments and i don't
00:20:07 know you you say it's a good thing that there weren't more countries there i think you don't
00:20:12 even need to be there because the idea that zionism is criminal is being criminalized that has become
00:20:19 mainstreamed and you don't need to go to a durban style conference that's sort of the diplomatic
00:20:27 status quo it's even seeping into canada don't you think oh yes i i do agree and i mean durban
00:20:33 Durban was the kind of official start of the use of words, you know, apartheid, genocide, war crimes, all of these hate remarks about Israel were pushed at Durban, and then they started being used on a regular basis.
00:20:53 And you're right. Nowadays, you can say anything you want about Israel because it doesn't have to be true.
00:20:59 It doesn't have you don't have to have evidence.
00:21:01 It's kind of the world has given you permission to say anything.
00:21:08 The head of the UN, what's his name? Antonio Guterres.
00:21:12 Is that how you pronounce it? The other day said.
00:21:15 I in all my years of you know being here at the UN and I've never ever seen such a massacre of
00:21:27 people as in in Gaza and this is someone who I mean that six months ago Iran murdered up to
00:21:38 some people say between 30,000 and 70,000 of their own civilians for dissenting uh from from
00:21:49 their policies uh and so he has the he has the brazenness to stand there and say he's never
00:21:55 seen such a genocide um when it wasn't a genocide at all and the numbers we know the numbers and
00:22:03 And they're nothing like real genocides.
00:22:05 And they were, by international law, not even considered war crimes because they were aimed at enemy targets that happened to be using civilians as human shield.
00:22:22 Anyways, the UN, I think, is so disgraced, is so corrupt and so irredeemable in its present form.
00:22:35 I really don't know how it can be fixed at all.
00:22:39 Well, here's my point that I've been slowly trying to make is that words leap out of, if they're in a little sandbox, they're going to leap out of there.
00:22:49 And here's my example.
00:22:51 I want to play this for you.
00:22:51 This is Ed Miliband, who is just appointed as the new foreign secretary in the United
00:22:59 Kingdom.
00:22:59 As you know, there's a new prime minister there, Andy Burnham.
00:23:02 He's labor.
00:23:03 Ed Miliband is labor.
00:23:04 And I should point out also that he happens to be Jewish.
00:23:07 And some of the leading anti-Semites in the UK, including Zach Polanski of the Green Party,
00:23:12 are radically anti-Israel to the point of being anti-Jewish.
00:23:16 But look at his scowl.
00:23:18 I mean, he always looks like he's got a scowl.
00:23:20 Here's Ed Miliband.
00:23:21 I want to play two and a half minutes of his speech. I know that's a very long time in TV time,
00:23:26 but there's about 10 things he says that are more radical than have ever been stated by a government
00:23:33 in the West. Like this is stuff that you would hear someone like Muammar Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein
00:23:39 say. This is stuff you would hear in today's Iran or Yemen. He is more radical than, for sure,
00:23:47 than the United Arab Emirates or Bahrain or Oman or even the Saudis.
00:23:51 Listen to this guy, and this isn't just some pundit or opposition member.
00:23:55 This is the foreign secretary of the United Kingdom.
00:24:00 Take a listen.
00:24:00 As we think about our role in the world, we will never be silent about injustice and suffering. 0.91
00:24:07 Let us state the reality about the Middle East.
00:24:10 The only route to peace is two states, a secure Israel and a secure Palestine
00:24:15 with freedom, dignity and self-determination for both peoples.
00:24:20 We all know how far away we are from that.
00:24:24 Hamas's murderous attack on October 7th 0.76
00:24:27 united the vast majority of the world in rightful condemnation.
00:24:32 We stand, I say, against anti-Semitism
00:24:36 wherever we find it and in whatever form.
00:24:45 And this party will always recognise the threats Israel faces
00:24:50 and stand emphatically against those who seek its destruction.
00:24:54 But this cannot justify the suffering the Netanyahu government
00:24:59 has inflicted in Gaza and the West Bank.
00:25:03 This suffering...
00:25:04 APPLAUSE
00:25:06 This suffering is a stain on the conscience of the world.
00:25:13 And I want to say to the millions of people in this country, and indeed elsewhere, who have been moved and outraged by the plight of the Palestinian people, we hear you. You were right.
00:25:43 And under Andy's leadership we have reset our approach. 0.83
00:25:55 We call out ethnic cleansing by the settler terrorists in the West Bank.
00:26:00 We call out the evidence of war crimes in Gaza.
00:26:03 We call out Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine and we match words with action. 0.90
00:26:09 We will ban the import of goods from illegal settlements. 0.98
00:26:12 We will disrupt the supply lines of British finance, British construction and British
00:26:17 services for illegal settlements.
00:26:18 And when it comes to the attempt to destroy the two-state solution, this party, this movement,
00:26:25 this government says we will not let you succeed.
00:26:31 Just an astonishing pivot there.
00:26:34 He starts off by talking about the two-state solution as if Hamas or the PLO or Islamic Jihad or any terrorist group believes in that.
00:26:47 They never say that the two-state solution is something that other people want for the area, but when they ask the Palestinians, the Palestinians say, no, we don't want a two-state solution.
00:27:04 we want one state called Palestine. And that's it. And it's so important for Ed Miliband to say
00:27:11 that, because he has to believe in that for the rest of his thesis. Like if he were to realize
00:27:18 that Hamas, in their very charter, believes in the extinction, not only of Israel, but Jews
00:27:23 everywhere. And same with Hezbollah, by the way. Some of their most dangerous attacks have been
00:27:28 outside of israel including in argentina and then he talks about war crimes and ethnic cleansing
00:27:36 not by terrorists not the ethnic cleanse and and he uses the language of the holocaust again
00:27:42 he talks about war crimes settler terrorists he didn't ever use the word terrorist for israel's
00:27:50 enemies who are terrorists and he he's calling for sanctions against israel i've never heard a
00:27:56 more radical speech than that spoken in a western ally i suppose spain's sanchez has said something
00:28:04 but i'm not sure if they count as an ally much these days this was so radical but that is the
00:28:11 foreign secretary of the uk i mean no you you could really hear the hatred in his voice and also
00:28:16 So, you know, his words about illegal occupation, it's not, there is no illegal occupation there.
00:28:27 And that's been explained many times by, you know, the indomitable Natasha Hausdorff.
00:28:34 International law, Israel is in accord with international law in its administration of Area C.
00:28:43 and areas a and b are administered by the palestinian authority i mean this
00:28:48 there he's out of line there on his well that's a great point is that the west bank most of their
00:28:55 day-to-day governance is by palestinians there's a so-called palestinian president but i want to
00:29:00 show you i think what's driving ed miliband and frankly zach polanski the two jewish leftists
00:29:07 who are trying to outdo each other for who can be more anti-israel i want to show you a brief
00:29:13 segment of a speech given in the parliament by a labor mp who's part of this government
00:29:19 and you can sort of figure out what's going on when you see this this is a brief clip only about
00:29:25 30 seconds this is a member of parliament named tahir ali and uh let's take a quick look previous
00:29:33 governments have intervened in the middle east to take action uh to save human rights abuses
00:29:39 and protect uh international trade routes isn't it about time that military action is taken against
00:29:45 israel isn't it time that military action be taken against israel so that's not a member
00:29:52 of the opposition there are six mps in the five or six mps in the british parliament who got elected
00:29:58 on a give your vote to Gaza platform, but they're extremists. This is someone in the bosom of 0.89
00:30:05 government. This is a labor MP within the government saying, hey, let's take military
00:30:12 action against Israel. How come we're not? And who is more powerful, Tahir Ali or Ed Miliband?
00:30:21 Well, the answer is Ed Miliband is saying what he's saying in part so that the growing Muslim population of the UK stays loyal to the Labour Party and doesn't go to Zach Polanski's Greens, doesn't go to the Lend Your Vote to Gaza MPs.
00:30:39 MPs, when you have a certain critical mass in places like Birmingham, for example, which is 0.81
00:30:45 about 40% Muslim, either you come out full tilt pro-Hamas or your MPs will be replaced by those 0.72
00:30:55 who do. And so it's not just the crazy ideas that have been festering at the UN for a generation. 0.81
00:31:02 add to that the demographic change of mass migration and what ed miliband said was sure
00:31:10 it was a foreign policy but it was really a domestic policy it was for domestic consumption
00:31:16 he's saying hey muslim voters stay with us and i'll prove it to you i'm a jew and i myself 0.94
00:31:22 will denounce israel please stay with us and give us your vote what do you think of that analysis 1.00
00:31:27 I think you're right. And it makes me really quite sick when I see these speaking as a Jew. Jews, you know, they are not Jews in any other sense than that they are derived from or their provenance is from Jewish parents. 1.00
00:31:47 These are, I guess we should call them Ginos, you know, Jews in name only. And they use it to say, you know, after all, I mean, you know, I'm against anti-Semitism. After all, I'm a Jew, you know, I don't.
00:32:04 But I hate that when they play that card. And it's sad. I find it really sad because these are Jews that are very insecure and that are hoping that if they suck up to the people that are anti-Semites, that maybe they'll get, you know, left out of the next transport or something.
00:32:34 uh they're they're they're bad news they're really bad news and they are um uh pathetic human beings 0.99
00:32:43 I think what you can see demographically whether it's Sadek Khan the mayor of London or Zoran 0.98
00:32:48 Mamdani the mayor of New York or what's happening in in I mean the mayor of Birmingham himself
00:32:54 is that first the leftists say oh wow there's a growing minority and if we give them what they
00:33:02 want we're going to get 10 or 20 percent more of the vote and given that votes are typically much
00:33:06 closer than that getting the islamic or the islamist or the anti-semitic vote is enough to
00:33:12 beat your opponents all the time so they do it but at a certain point in time maybe when the islamic 0.56
00:33:18 vote is now 30 or 40 why would they have a white leftist proxy why would they need 0.90
00:33:25 someone like Zach Polanski or Ed Miliband, when they could just vote for someone like 0.64
00:33:30 Tahir Ali, who gives it to you straight from the Muslim community. He wants a war against Israel. 0.98
00:33:38 That, I mean, at a certain point, the useful idiots, as Lenin would say, 1.00
00:33:42 are disposed of. You only need Ed Miliband for a discrete period of time, five or 10 years. 0.99
00:33:48 And then the demographics, you could say goodbye to him. And he'll say, oh, but I was such a useful
00:33:53 idiot yeah thank you very little for that um but yeah you're right you're you're next i call them 1.00
00:33:58 i call them i call them useful idiots because they uh they really are and and i quite agree 1.00
00:34:05 with you i i mean it's all about now uh it's it's it's like what melanie jolly said uh have you seen 0.99
00:34:14 the demographics of my writing and that's that's really what it's all about everywhere now um so
00:34:20 uh canada you know is i think it won't be long before we're we're not quite where the uk is now
00:34:29 but uh i shouldn't think it will be too long before we are yeah well i mean you know what i
00:34:35 say i say my trips to the uk are a dystopian time machine where i can see our future five years from
00:34:40 now if we don't change course i don't know if you know barbara but i have since been banned
00:34:44 from the united kingdom the home office has said that i'm not quote conducive to the public good
00:34:49 i'm suing you know what congratulations ezra i think that's really i a mark in your favor
00:34:55 i would say that uh now you can really hold your head up high because people they're banning are
00:35:02 the people that are they don't want to hear the truth from yeah it's pretty crazy and it is truth
00:35:08 of that but i deeply regret it because i love going over there to tell the stories from there
00:35:12 and frankly to help tell them their own stories i mean uh their media is starting to have a little
00:35:19 bit of diversity, but they're still very politically correct about these subjects. Barbara, great to
00:35:23 catch up with you. For those who don't read it, I encourage you to read Barbara's column in the
00:35:27 National Post. Her latest is called Shame on the UN for Commemorating 25 Years of Toxic
00:35:32 Anti-Zionism. Talk to you soon, my friend. Thanks. All right. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.
00:35:49 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me on Danny Tomo. Mr. David C. says, why can't he get bail
00:35:57 for a non-crime that doesn't have any evidence? Of course, in the UK, they don't need evidence
00:36:01 to arrest right-wingers. Well, he is being charged with a crime. He is. But the thing about bail is
00:36:06 you get it unless you're a flight risk or a real danger to the community. And Danny Tomo is neither
00:36:13 of those things. He's not a flight risk. He's got four kids on the fifth on the way. He's a roofer.
00:36:18 Like, where's he going to run off to?
00:36:20 He's not a flight risk.
00:36:22 And he's, I mean, he's accused of poking a dinghy.
00:36:27 Is he really a danger to the public?
00:36:28 I don't believe it.
00:36:31 Renault 2.0 says, he took the law into his own hands. 1.00
00:36:34 Stupid is as stupid does. 1.00
00:36:36 I'm not here to encourage people to stab dinghies. 1.00
00:36:42 Was it a wise move?
00:36:43 I'll leave that to the courts.
00:36:44 But as I said, when we launched our crowdfund forum, 0.97
00:36:49 Every one of those illegal migrants who broke the law on purpose to get there,
00:36:54 and only one of the traffickers, the human traffickers who helped them break the law,
00:36:58 they're not charged with a crime.
00:37:00 In fact, the opposite.
00:37:01 They get free lawyers to ask for asylum.
00:37:04 So, yeah, if they get free lawyers paid for by British taxpayers,
00:37:09 yeah, you're darn right, Danny Ritamo deserves a lawyer too.
00:37:12 And we'll give him one.
00:37:13 If you believe in this, go to savedanny.co.uk.
00:37:16 That's our show for the day. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.