00:07:15.740In 2021, China landed a rover on Mars, only the second country in history to do it.
00:07:22.520So if you think the Chinese Communist Party wouldn't love to plant its flag on the red planet first and then tell us what the rules are, well, you haven't been paying attention.0.64
00:07:31.280I think we're in a space race again against China, not against Russia.
00:07:35.940Which brings us back to who governs Mars, because it's not actually going to be decided by a treaty settled in 1967.
00:07:44.740them. Here's something that really gets mentioned. Musk isn't just Tesla and Starlink and rockets
00:07:51.140and tunnels. There's a division called Star Shield. Have you ever heard of that? That's
00:07:56.880the classified side. That's the spy satellites, the military satellites for the National Reconnaissance
00:08:02.920Office. That's a reported $1.8 billion contract military communications for the U.S. Space Force,
00:08:09.380billions more this year don't think for a moment that the space force remember trump
00:08:15.420inventors the army and the marines and they're now their space force don't think for a second
00:08:20.520they aren't interested in mars of course they are the question is though i think who who shows up
00:08:28.440first china and america and i think just as important is what kind of america shows up here's
00:08:34.040what i mean by that i think there's sort of two americas when it comes with dealing with other
00:08:37.660countries and other planets. There's the one America that built the internet at the Pentagon's
00:08:44.160research agency called DARPA. And then there's the other America that, for example, back in
00:08:49.6802016 under Barack Obama, quietly gave up U.S. oversight of the internet's naming system and
00:08:57.780handed it to a global multi-stakeholder community. Just let the monopoly expire, gave it really to
00:09:04.160China. Well, look at the UK these days, the Chagos Islands, a military base in the middle of the
00:09:09.840Indian Ocean, very valuable to the US. And the UK just signed a deal to hand the islands to
00:09:15.060Mauritius and pay them 100 million pounds a year. And critics say the real bill is going to be many
00:09:21.720times. Now that deal's on hold right now because Donald Trump called it terrible. But my point is
00:09:26.500that there's two sort of instincts in the West. One of them is sort of a suicidal gene in the
00:09:31.660liberal west a reflex to give things away to undermine your own country to apologize for
00:09:36.660everything your country's achieved do you see my point which america is going to go to mars
00:09:41.560the chagos and hand the internet over to china version of america or the 1960s america the one
00:09:50.540that heard kennedy say we choose to go to the moon and then just did it because it was hard and
00:09:55.460because it was america's to do and because they wanted to get there before the commies did
00:09:59.220and then the real question once you're there who runs the place is it a company town spacex as a
00:10:06.180landlord and a government is a democracy what constitution what courts i mean musk has actually
00:10:12.480answered some of this not in detail but in principle he said martians will decide their
00:10:18.220own government he recommends direct democracy not representative democracy because he says there's
00:10:23.360too many politicians as there is, and laws that are short and simple enough for anyone to read.
00:10:29.500Okay, that's a good idea. Maybe we should try that down here on Earth. And then there's the part that
00:10:34.400sounds made up. You know, after the Second World War, there was a scramble to get all the German
00:10:39.160rocket scientists because they were sending the V1s and V2s. They were way ahead of the West in0.60
00:10:45.120rocketry. So in 1949, Werner von Braun, who was the German rocket scientist who was brought to
00:10:51.360America and later built America's Saturn V, he wrote a novel about the first expedition to Mars.
00:10:58.180And it sat in a drawer for decades. It wasn't published in English until 2006, I think.
00:11:05.520In it, the Martian humans have a government, 10 members elected by universal suffrage,
00:11:11.300five-year terms, and the head of that government has a title, the Elon.
00:11:17.600on. Musk's father says that's where the name came from. Make of that what you like. Now who actually
00:11:24.580goes to Mars at first? Well it would be extremely expensive to be the first amongst the first going
00:11:31.320there. So I think the first Martians would either be rich or people who are so valuable that someone
00:11:37.420else pays their fare. Engineers, doctors, pilots, people who are physically and mentally strong.
00:11:42.520that's going to shape a culture of humans up there a colony of astronauts not tourists really
00:11:49.080compare that to jeff bezos's rocket last year where katy perry and his girlfriend lauren sanchez
00:11:54.680went up 10 minutes and 21 seconds up weightless down kiss the dirt hold up a daisy the transportation
00:12:02.460secretary asked fairly whether they were astronauts at all so that's not exploration that's a theme
00:12:07.820Park for billionaires. But Elon Musk is the other thing. He is deadly serious. His timeline slipped
00:12:13.260from, it's true, he said 50-50 on an uncrewed starship to Mars this year and it didn't happen.
00:12:19.360He's now saying the moon first, a city there in under 10 years, and Mars starting within five to
00:12:24.240seven. Now he's been late on things and he delivers on everything. Isn't that funny? I mean, tell me
00:12:30.420a promise he's made that he hasn't kept or is in the process of keeping. Would you ever bet against
00:12:35.940him let me tell you where i stand on this personally i like earth i like the water and
00:12:41.180the air i like green and blue i don't want to live in a dusty red dry planet i love the forest and
00:12:45.880the oceans and the critters most of all i like the people and i like the culture built by all the
00:12:50.940people who came before us i like old things like the cathedrals and the common law and
00:12:55.900just stuff that people poured their hearts into hockey rinks i don't know
00:13:00.020the history we're a link in a chain that goes back before history none of that is on mars
00:13:06.940there's no history on mars on mars there's no one who came before you you would be the first
00:13:13.320builders think about what it would be like to be the first child born on mars in one sense an orphan
00:13:19.840no past to lean on no old country no graveyard with your grandparents in it everything has to
00:13:24.840be made from scratch, from nothing, by the people standing there. I think that's terrifying for a lot
00:13:30.180of people. But for a certain kind of person, I think it's the most thrilling thing they would
00:13:34.880ever do. That's what the Starlink Clause is really for. It's not law. It's almost a dare, or an
00:13:41.900invitation, or a promise. It's there to make a few hundred thousand people out of a billion,
00:13:48.280sit up straighter, enough to fill the ships when there are ships. Elon Musk is already the most
00:13:53.720consequential man of our age if he actually pulls this off he's not just the richest man he'll be
00:14:00.080the most consequential man since christopher columbus and here's my question for you not
00:14:07.380whether it'll happen it's whether you would go be honest if the ship were leaving if there was a seat
00:14:13.020and if you knew you'd never see a forest again would you go
00:14:16.440to mars would you put your hand up let me know
00:14:23.720Well, you know, a lot of people instinctively do what they see everyone else doing as a kind of
00:14:33.900ritual. For example, giving a land acknowledgement. There's hardly a political or bureaucratic figure
00:14:39.800or even a school principal who won't start an assembly with a land acknowledgement. And they
00:14:45.480do it because everyone else is doing it and they don't want to be called out for not doing it.
00:14:49.620The trouble is, if you keep saying words and words and words, someone's going to listen
00:14:55.500and say, well, you must mean it, because you keep saying it, so it's time to do it.
00:15:03.220We saw that, for example, in the climate debate.
00:15:06.000If you acknowledge that man is guilty of climate change, if you say that long enough, someone's
00:15:12.360going to say, well, then it's time to de-industrialize, de-grow, time to stop oil and keep it in the
00:15:18.060ground. And if you say that with a land acknowledgement, I think that's the most acute
00:15:24.700case. Well, what happens if Indigenous activists and then later courts say, well, they said
00:15:30.140they want to give the land back. They say that we're on land that belongs to Indigenous
00:15:33.980people. Maybe we're going to invent a new Indigenous title. My point in both of those
00:15:38.980examples, the climate change hysteria and the land title issue, is people don't understand
00:16:42.180Well, yes. The original Durban conference was an attempt to resuscitate the 1975 resolution at the UN that Zionism is racism, and that was rescinded in 1991, so the Durban conference was there to bring it back.0.82
00:17:03.580And they did mean it. They did mean it. And that whole conference was like a three day or three week, whatever it was, Kristallnacht. It was a terrible anti-Semitic hate fest. And now they kept pushing it.0.96
00:17:24.500That was where the BDS movement started. The International Criminal Court got involved. They were trying very hard to actually criminalize the state of Israel. And all their efforts have been bent in that direction for 25 years. And they keep having these reunions at Durban retrospectives.
00:17:47.180They had it for the fifth year, the 10th year, and now it's the 25th year.
00:17:52.960And the only good news is that each time they have a mark, one of the anniversaries of the Durban conference, fewer countries attend.
00:18:04.920And so the good news is that when they had the one yesterday, there were only, I think, 46 countries did not attend and the audience was pretty sparse.
00:18:18.780They just, these are, this is the UN sponsored this NGO forum.
00:18:25.400The NGO forum that was at the Durban conference was a hotbed of anti-Semitism featuring pictures of Adolf Hitler and selling the protocols of the elders of Zion.
00:18:40.220Just an unbelievable, an unbelievable display of hatred.
00:18:45.320uh so they're they're um this is not rhetoric they really mean it they really want to dismantle the
00:18:55.120state of israel well the fact that it was a un conference in the first place tells you how
00:19:01.100widespread the problem is one of the impetus that one of the i'd say the major impetus
00:19:06.740for the un being formed was after not just the second world war but in particular the holocaust
00:19:12.500and you know the the idea of universal human rights a lot of that came out of the the massacre
00:19:19.640the atrocities of the of the holocaust and yet to to basically say zionism which is the essence of
00:19:27.940of judaism that there is a holy land that the bible story is true and that's the promised land
00:19:33.260promised to the jewish people to to say that anti-zionism is anything other than anti-semitism
00:19:38.520is as weird as if someone said i like italians i just hate italy like it just it just doesn't
00:19:45.980make any sense so the un is trying to codify that because they're trying to get around admitting
00:19:52.760that it's just about getting jews i think but my point is you say this decade after decade after
00:19:58.920decade it starts to seep in to real decision making legislatures real parliaments and i don't
00:20:07.260know you you say it's a good thing that there weren't more countries there i think you don't
00:20:12.240even need to be there because the idea that zionism is criminal is being criminalized that has become
00:20:19.420mainstreamed and you don't need to go to a durban style conference that's sort of the diplomatic
00:20:27.380status quo it's even seeping into canada don't you think oh yes i i do agree and i mean durban
00:20:33.300Durban was the kind of official start of the use of words, you know, apartheid, genocide, war crimes, all of these hate remarks about Israel were pushed at Durban, and then they started being used on a regular basis.
00:20:53.720And you're right. Nowadays, you can say anything you want about Israel because it doesn't have to be true.
00:20:59.560It doesn't have you don't have to have evidence.
00:21:01.920It's kind of the world has given you permission to say anything.
00:21:08.820The head of the UN, what's his name? Antonio Guterres.
00:21:12.960Is that how you pronounce it? The other day said.
00:21:15.760I in all my years of you know being here at the UN and I've never ever seen such a massacre of
00:21:27.520people as in in Gaza and this is someone who I mean that six months ago Iran murdered up to
00:21:38.840some people say between 30,000 and 70,000 of their own civilians for dissenting uh from from
00:21:49.240their policies uh and so he has the he has the brazenness to stand there and say he's never
00:21:55.160seen such a genocide um when it wasn't a genocide at all and the numbers we know the numbers and
00:22:03.240And they're nothing like real genocides.
00:22:05.660And they were, by international law, not even considered war crimes because they were aimed at enemy targets that happened to be using civilians as human shield.
00:22:22.800Anyways, the UN, I think, is so disgraced, is so corrupt and so irredeemable in its present form.
00:22:35.640I really don't know how it can be fixed at all.
00:22:39.800Well, here's my point that I've been slowly trying to make is that words leap out of, if they're in a little sandbox, they're going to leap out of there.
00:25:06.340This suffering is a stain on the conscience of the world.
00:25:13.100And I want to say to the millions of people in this country, and indeed elsewhere, who have been moved and outraged by the plight of the Palestinian people, we hear you. You were right.
00:25:43.100And under Andy's leadership we have reset our approach.0.83
00:25:55.200We call out ethnic cleansing by the settler terrorists in the West Bank.
00:26:00.260We call out the evidence of war crimes in Gaza.
00:26:03.480We call out Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine and we match words with action.0.90
00:26:09.540We will ban the import of goods from illegal settlements.0.98
00:26:12.760We will disrupt the supply lines of British finance, British construction and British
00:26:34.960He starts off by talking about the two-state solution as if Hamas or the PLO or Islamic Jihad or any terrorist group believes in that.
00:26:47.680They never say that the two-state solution is something that other people want for the area, but when they ask the Palestinians, the Palestinians say, no, we don't want a two-state solution.
00:27:04.520we want one state called Palestine. And that's it. And it's so important for Ed Miliband to say
00:27:11.260that, because he has to believe in that for the rest of his thesis. Like if he were to realize
00:27:18.100that Hamas, in their very charter, believes in the extinction, not only of Israel, but Jews
00:27:23.460everywhere. And same with Hezbollah, by the way. Some of their most dangerous attacks have been
00:27:28.420outside of israel including in argentina and then he talks about war crimes and ethnic cleansing
00:27:36.440not by terrorists not the ethnic cleanse and and he uses the language of the holocaust again
00:27:42.200he talks about war crimes settler terrorists he didn't ever use the word terrorist for israel's
00:27:50.320enemies who are terrorists and he he's calling for sanctions against israel i've never heard a
00:27:56.660more radical speech than that spoken in a western ally i suppose spain's sanchez has said something
00:28:04.520but i'm not sure if they count as an ally much these days this was so radical but that is the
00:28:11.580foreign secretary of the uk i mean no you you could really hear the hatred in his voice and also
00:28:16.860So, you know, his words about illegal occupation, it's not, there is no illegal occupation there.
00:28:27.300And that's been explained many times by, you know, the indomitable Natasha Hausdorff.
00:28:34.300International law, Israel is in accord with international law in its administration of Area C.
00:28:43.280and areas a and b are administered by the palestinian authority i mean this
00:28:48.660there he's out of line there on his well that's a great point is that the west bank most of their
00:28:55.320day-to-day governance is by palestinians there's a so-called palestinian president but i want to
00:29:00.900show you i think what's driving ed miliband and frankly zach polanski the two jewish leftists
00:29:07.760who are trying to outdo each other for who can be more anti-israel i want to show you a brief
00:29:13.380segment of a speech given in the parliament by a labor mp who's part of this government
00:29:19.280and you can sort of figure out what's going on when you see this this is a brief clip only about
00:29:25.46030 seconds this is a member of parliament named tahir ali and uh let's take a quick look previous
00:29:33.060governments have intervened in the middle east to take action uh to save human rights abuses
00:29:39.140and protect uh international trade routes isn't it about time that military action is taken against
00:29:45.380israel isn't it time that military action be taken against israel so that's not a member
00:29:52.260of the opposition there are six mps in the five or six mps in the british parliament who got elected
00:29:58.820on a give your vote to Gaza platform, but they're extremists. This is someone in the bosom of0.89
00:30:05.580government. This is a labor MP within the government saying, hey, let's take military
00:30:12.360action against Israel. How come we're not? And who is more powerful, Tahir Ali or Ed Miliband?
00:30:21.120Well, the answer is Ed Miliband is saying what he's saying in part so that the growing Muslim population of the UK stays loyal to the Labour Party and doesn't go to Zach Polanski's Greens, doesn't go to the Lend Your Vote to Gaza MPs.
00:30:39.120MPs, when you have a certain critical mass in places like Birmingham, for example, which is0.81
00:30:45.920about 40% Muslim, either you come out full tilt pro-Hamas or your MPs will be replaced by those0.72
00:30:55.620who do. And so it's not just the crazy ideas that have been festering at the UN for a generation.0.81
00:31:02.780add to that the demographic change of mass migration and what ed miliband said was sure
00:31:10.660it was a foreign policy but it was really a domestic policy it was for domestic consumption
00:31:16.320he's saying hey muslim voters stay with us and i'll prove it to you i'm a jew and i myself0.94
00:31:22.360will denounce israel please stay with us and give us your vote what do you think of that analysis1.00
00:31:27.640I think you're right. And it makes me really quite sick when I see these speaking as a Jew. Jews, you know, they are not Jews in any other sense than that they are derived from or their provenance is from Jewish parents.1.00
00:31:47.760These are, I guess we should call them Ginos, you know, Jews in name only. And they use it to say, you know, after all, I mean, you know, I'm against anti-Semitism. After all, I'm a Jew, you know, I don't.
00:32:04.880But I hate that when they play that card. And it's sad. I find it really sad because these are Jews that are very insecure and that are hoping that if they suck up to the people that are anti-Semites, that maybe they'll get, you know, left out of the next transport or something.
00:32:34.880uh they're they're they're bad news they're really bad news and they are um uh pathetic human beings0.99
00:32:43.380I think what you can see demographically whether it's Sadek Khan the mayor of London or Zoran0.98
00:32:48.240Mamdani the mayor of New York or what's happening in in I mean the mayor of Birmingham himself
00:32:54.980is that first the leftists say oh wow there's a growing minority and if we give them what they
00:33:02.060want we're going to get 10 or 20 percent more of the vote and given that votes are typically much
00:33:06.620closer than that getting the islamic or the islamist or the anti-semitic vote is enough to
00:33:12.000beat your opponents all the time so they do it but at a certain point in time maybe when the islamic0.56
00:33:18.060vote is now 30 or 40 why would they have a white leftist proxy why would they need0.90
00:33:25.280someone like Zach Polanski or Ed Miliband, when they could just vote for someone like0.64
00:33:30.860Tahir Ali, who gives it to you straight from the Muslim community. He wants a war against Israel.0.98
00:33:38.340That, I mean, at a certain point, the useful idiots, as Lenin would say,1.00
00:33:42.620are disposed of. You only need Ed Miliband for a discrete period of time, five or 10 years.0.99
00:33:48.080And then the demographics, you could say goodbye to him. And he'll say, oh, but I was such a useful
00:33:53.280idiot yeah thank you very little for that um but yeah you're right you're you're next i call them1.00
00:33:58.560i call them i call them useful idiots because they uh they really are and and i quite agree1.00
00:34:05.600with you i i mean it's all about now uh it's it's it's like what melanie jolly said uh have you seen0.99
00:34:14.100the demographics of my writing and that's that's really what it's all about everywhere now um so
00:34:20.420uh canada you know is i think it won't be long before we're we're not quite where the uk is now
00:34:29.580but uh i shouldn't think it will be too long before we are yeah well i mean you know what i
00:34:35.160say i say my trips to the uk are a dystopian time machine where i can see our future five years from
00:34:40.800now if we don't change course i don't know if you know barbara but i have since been banned
00:34:44.960from the united kingdom the home office has said that i'm not quote conducive to the public good
00:34:49.880i'm suing you know what congratulations ezra i think that's really i a mark in your favor
00:34:55.980i would say that uh now you can really hold your head up high because people they're banning are
00:35:02.520the people that are they don't want to hear the truth from yeah it's pretty crazy and it is truth
00:35:08.160of that but i deeply regret it because i love going over there to tell the stories from there
00:35:12.620and frankly to help tell them their own stories i mean uh their media is starting to have a little
00:35:19.340bit of diversity, but they're still very politically correct about these subjects. Barbara, great to
00:35:23.520catch up with you. For those who don't read it, I encourage you to read Barbara's column in the
00:35:27.340National Post. Her latest is called Shame on the UN for Commemorating 25 Years of Toxic
00:35:32.540Anti-Zionism. Talk to you soon, my friend. Thanks. All right. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.
00:35:49.340Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me on Danny Tomo. Mr. David C. says, why can't he get bail
00:35:57.020for a non-crime that doesn't have any evidence? Of course, in the UK, they don't need evidence
00:36:01.660to arrest right-wingers. Well, he is being charged with a crime. He is. But the thing about bail is
00:36:06.940you get it unless you're a flight risk or a real danger to the community. And Danny Tomo is neither
00:36:13.840of those things. He's not a flight risk. He's got four kids on the fifth on the way. He's a roofer.
00:37:13.360If you believe in this, go to savedanny.co.uk.
00:37:16.480That's our show for the day. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.