Rebel News Podcast - October 01, 2026


EZRA LEVANT ｜ With Alberta's independence referendum closing in, Carney delivers a pipeline on paper

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Danielle Smith Keystone XL Michelle Rempel-Garner Barack Obama Saint Denis Bill C-63 Joe Biden Trudeau Alberta Antifa
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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Two monologues for one. I just had so much to say today. One of them was about
00:00:06.940 the pipeline or the pipeline dream or the pipe dream that Mark Carney re-announced in Alberta
00:00:13.660 today. Yeah, there's not a lot to it, but I'll take you through it. And then I want to tell you
00:00:19.040 about these crazy riots in France. Now, I know when you hear riots in France together, you say,
00:00:24.300 yeah that's usual but this is weird they're burning hundreds of high schools it's crazy
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00:01:19.760 Tonight, Mark Carney announced a pipeline to the Pacific.
00:01:23.720 But it has no customers, no route, no price tag anyone agrees on, and no First Nations willing to say yes.
00:01:31.000 It does have a date, though, 18 days before Alberta's referendum on leaving.
00:01:35.840 It's October 1st, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:39.400 You're fighting for freedom!
00:01:42.280 Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:01:54.260 They're calling it Pacific Link.
00:01:56.740 a million barrels of oil a day from Bruderheim, Alberta to Delta, BC. It'll be owned 50-50 by
00:02:04.040 the Ottawa and Alberta governments. Taxpayers are on the hook. Two governments. There is a private
00:02:10.480 partner called Pembina, the pipeline company. They took 10% and put it in writing that it
00:02:16.260 retains full discretion over its final investment decision and has no at-risk development capital.
00:02:24.840 That's their way of saying to shareholders, don't worry, we know this is a speculative
00:02:29.920 adventure.
00:02:31.280 In other words, the one company that knows how to build pipelines, it's keeping its wallet
00:02:36.620 in its pocket.
00:02:38.040 So what does it cost?
00:02:39.740 Well, the Associated Press says $25 to $31 billion.
00:02:43.920 Alberta's own estimate is $35 to $44 billion.
00:02:48.300 No one knows.
00:02:49.760 No one's even mapped the route yet, which you would have to do.
00:02:53.120 Who's buying the oil?
00:02:54.680 Well, nobody yet. The open season, which is the part where you ask producers to sign shipping
00:02:59.960 contracts, it's scheduled for the spring. Government officials admitted to reporters
00:03:04.160 that a fast track approval doesn't guarantee shippers or financing. The conditions for the
00:03:09.800 project won't even be written until September 1st, 2027. Even if everything does happen,
00:03:18.980 Maybe the first oil will be in 2032.
00:03:22.660 So let me say what it actually is.
00:03:25.320 It's not a pipeline.
00:03:26.600 There are no shovels in the ground.
00:03:28.620 This is a press release, or maybe even a campaign ad against the referendum.
00:03:33.980 Albertans vote on October 19th, a pipeline announcement on October 1st.
00:03:38.700 Mark Carney's been prime minister for a year and a half.
00:03:40.920 As Michelle Rempel-Garner of the Conservatives put it,
00:03:43.800 quote, two signing ceremonies, countless media stories,
00:03:47.220 and no pipelines built.
00:03:49.660 And finally, I'd like to give brief comment
00:03:51.840 on the potential pipeline announcement tomorrow.
00:03:54.920 A year and a half into Prime Minister Carney's tenure,
00:03:58.380 we've had two signing ceremonies,
00:04:00.600 countless media stories, and no pipelines built.
00:04:04.280 I'll be very honest.
00:04:05.900 We can't afford more of the same.
00:04:07.860 The country can't afford more of the same,
00:04:10.120 and my province can't afford more of the same.
00:04:12.840 So another promise without a clear plan will not help anybody.
00:04:17.620 Now, the obstacles, there are three, and the government is pretending none of them exists.
00:04:21.480 First, the courts.
00:04:23.180 Ottawa consulted more than 130 Indigenous communities, so they say.
00:04:27.800 Most of them said they were not prepared to endorse the pipeline.
00:04:30.980 Legal challenges are a certainty.
00:04:34.100 The Coastal First Nations group, by the way, that's a lobby group. 0.83
00:04:37.280 It's not an Indian band.
00:04:38.480 It's not a reserve. 0.99
00:04:39.440 It has no legal standing.
00:04:41.080 They call the pipeline, quote, nothing more than a pipe dream, and they're going to fight it.
00:04:44.680 They promised to, quote, use every tool in the toolbox to stop the tankers.
00:04:50.760 Remember, the Federal Court of Appeal killed Trans Mountain's approval back in 2018 over the duty to consult.
00:04:57.540 And just last year, a B.C. judge handed a First Nation Aboriginal title over land in Richmond, the city of Richmond.
00:05:05.520 It's right next door to Delta where this pipeline ends.
00:05:07.700 What do you think happens to a $40 billion project when a judge decides the terminal is sitting on someone else's land?
00:05:15.680 Put it another way, would you reach into your own wallet right now and risk your own money on this deal?
00:05:22.400 It's $40 billion. Would you put $40 into it? You think you'd get it back?
00:05:28.480 Oh, and the tanker ban, it's still the law. Bill C-48 has been the law since 2019.
00:05:33.480 The agreement between Carney and Premier Smith only promises an appropriate adjustment if needed.
00:05:40.060 It's not a repeal. That's a maybe in the future.
00:05:43.960 Third, and this is the one that kills the deal.
00:05:45.880 I think the price of this pipeline isn't just the pipeline.
00:05:49.240 The deal says that the pipeline and the Pathways Carbon Capture Scheme are, quote, mutually dependent.
00:05:57.540 No carbon capture scheme, no pipeline.
00:06:00.380 In this regard, we'll build sustainably.
00:06:05.200 Canada, the government of Alberta, the Oil Sands Alliance will advance construction of the Pathways Project,
00:06:11.680 one of the largest carbon capture and storage projects in the world.
00:06:16.060 Pathways will use special absorption towers to capture CO2 emissions before they enter the atmosphere.
00:06:22.520 That CO2 will then be transported and permanently stored underground,
00:06:25.620 making Alberta oil among the world's lowest carbon intensity crude.
00:06:31.840 Said another way, Pathways will help reduce 16 million tons of emissions every year.
00:06:38.220 That's the equivalent of taking 90% of Alberta's cars off the road.
00:06:43.940 Pathways alone will create an additional 40,000 jobs and more than 16 billion in GDP.
00:06:50.220 And it will give Canada a new competitive advantage in the medium term.
00:06:55.620 leveraging Canadian expertise and create an entirely new industry of carbon capture right
00:07:01.360 here at home. Carbon capture is a made-up thing. It's a project the oil companies themselves
00:07:06.840 have priced at $16.5 billion. I've seen estimates up to $20 billion. It's to bury carbon dioxide
00:07:14.960 in the ground. On top of that, Alberta agreed to an industrial carbon price with a floor of $130
00:07:22.220 dollars a ton this is all made up by the way no other oil producing country does this to itself
00:07:29.620 not saudi arabia not russia not iran not venezuela not the united states not norway
00:07:34.840 here's the lie at the center of it it the claim that this is necessary for social license if we
00:07:41.940 don't pump hot air into the ground that's carbon dioxide that we won't be able to sell our oil
00:07:49.960 because buyers in Asia really care about carbon capture.
00:07:54.840 They don't.
00:07:56.460 China buys oil from Iran.
00:07:58.820 India buys oil from Russia.
00:08:01.160 Sudan sells oil through a war zone.
00:08:03.980 Do you think a refinery in Shandong
00:08:05.720 checks whether the barrel came with a carbon credit?
00:08:09.120 Of course not.
00:08:10.460 They don't care about sanctions even.
00:08:13.300 They only care about price.
00:08:14.640 And every one of those schemes for carbon capture
00:08:17.780 and all that other stuff adds to the price of Canadian oil on top of building the pipeline
00:08:23.320 until Canadian oil costs more than everybody else's.
00:08:26.420 Mark Carney, by the way, remember, he's the man who built his career on net zero banking,
00:08:32.280 trying to divest from oil and gas.
00:08:34.600 He knows better about this than anyone.
00:08:36.400 That's the point here.
00:08:37.540 He's actually killing the oil patch.
00:08:41.000 Here's a clip of his speech.
00:08:43.000 And of course, he sort of made it about poking America. 0.98
00:08:45.900 This is an important day. I want to thank everyone for joining us here on Treaty 8 territory. 0.89
00:08:53.600 This is an important day for Alberta and for Canada, because the world's facing an energy
00:08:59.180 crisis on three dimensions. There's an immediate challenge of affordability and in some countries,
00:09:04.800 the very availability of hydrocarbons. There's a structural challenge of energy security
00:09:10.580 and the existential challenge of climate change.
00:09:14.480 And these challenges are forcing countries to think differently
00:09:17.440 about where their energy comes from and who they can rely on to supply it.
00:09:24.780 Global oil demand is around 100 million barrels a day.
00:09:28.820 Global oil supply is often now impacted by conflicts and it's becoming more volatile.
00:09:36.880 And while the precise path ahead is always uncertain,
00:09:39.400 oil demand will continue to be significant for decades to come.
00:09:44.160 Even under any plausible net-zero scenario, the IEA forecasts the world will still need
00:09:49.520 tens of millions of barrels of crude a day.
00:09:53.040 So the question is, who will emerge as the world's trusted suppliers?
00:09:59.440 It should be us.
00:10:01.440 It must be Canada.
00:10:03.900 Earlier this year, the head of the IEA said, and I quote,
00:10:07.400 Canada has a golden opportunity to become the low-cost, low-risk, low-carbon supplier that the world needs now.
00:10:17.720 Today, 90% of Alberta's oil goes to the U.S.
00:10:22.300 Pacific Link will materially reduce that dependence by allowing us to export an additional 1 million barrels a day to growing markets in Asia.
00:10:30.680 That means more customers, more choice, higher prices for all Canadian energy producers.
00:10:35.880 And it means greater long-term security of demand.
00:10:41.260 We estimate the Pacific Link will create 140,000 jobs across the country,
00:10:47.580 from the engineers who design it, the pipe fitters who lay it, the welders who connect it.
00:10:52.280 It will generate over $20 billion in GDP per year and over $100 billion in government revenue by 2060.
00:11:00.880 Revenue that will help build the infrastructure in the homes that Albertans and Canadians need,
00:11:05.200 protect the social programs that they rely on every day from health care to dental care and
00:11:10.080 child care. This is true nation building and it will take a nation to build it because today's
00:11:18.680 announcement is part of a series of initiatives. Pacific Link needs a route to the West Coast.
00:11:25.200 It needs a new port when it gets there. It needs new conservation measures consistent with the
00:11:30.420 higher maritime traffic it will create. And it needs new partnerships with First Nations to build
00:11:37.140 shared prosperity, as well as new investments in low emissions technologies to keep Athabasca
00:11:44.260 crude competitive over the long term. Canada has a once in a generation opportunity to become a
00:11:50.860 global energy superpower. And he's upset that 90% of Alberta's oil goes to the US. Yeah.
00:11:58.300 Um, why is it only a once in a generation opportunity?
00:12:02.920 I mean, why isn't it the opportunity every, every day?
00:12:07.300 What, what's special?
00:12:10.000 Well, the answer is for the last 10, 15 years, the liberals have been killing
00:12:14.800 everything, liberals and their friends in the environmental movement.
00:12:17.300 Um, a few years ago, there were three or four pipeline proposals, none of which
00:12:22.000 asked for any government money.
00:12:23.980 There was no need for a bailout or any government projects office.
00:12:29.300 The Northern Gateway Pipeline to Kitimat, BC, the Energy East Pipeline all the way to New
00:12:33.940 Brunswick, Keystone XL to the US, all three were killed by the liberals or by Barack Obama
00:12:40.380 and Joe Biden in the case of Keystone XL without a peep of objection from Canada.
00:12:45.160 There's nothing magic about this moment.
00:12:47.840 Carney isn't magic.
00:12:48.840 In fact, he was Trudeau's economic policy advisor when all these pipelines were killed.
00:12:53.700 by the time this slow motion plan moves forward, if it even does, I'm pretty sure America's
00:12:58.700 refineries will be full of Venezuelan oil. You snooze, you lose. Now, I like Premier Danielle
00:13:04.800 Smith, and she called it a significant victory for Alberta's and Canada's energy future.
00:13:12.540 Here, take a look. And this is a monumental day for our province and for our country.
00:13:18.100 It is also an important step towards our goal of securing the necessary approvals and conditions
00:13:22.520 for design and construction to begin as early as September 1st, 2027,
00:13:27.680 turning this project from a vision into a reality.
00:13:30.580 Today sends a clear message.
00:13:32.180 Canada is ready to build.
00:13:33.800 Canada possesses some of the world's largest energy reserves,
00:13:37.140 a highly skilled workforce,
00:13:38.780 and an impressive track record of responsible resource development
00:13:41.500 after decades as a major global energy producer.
00:13:44.560 The challenge has never been whether Canada has resources to offer.
00:13:48.100 The challenge has always been getting those resources
00:13:50.000 to the markets that need the most, and this project helps to solve that problem.
00:13:54.700 By working together, Alberta and Canada have made real progress
00:13:58.200 towards advancing this generational nation-building infrastructure.
00:14:01.820 And building on this momentum, Alberta's government will work closely
00:14:05.100 with Trans Mountain Corporation and Pembina Pipeline Corporation,
00:14:08.600 drawing on their extensive experience in developing and operating
00:14:11.860 major world-class energy infrastructure.
00:14:14.820 For too long, we've watched projects with enormous transformative potential
00:14:18.640 get mired down in uncertainty and delay, and today we're turning the page. The work ahead will still
00:14:23.760 require cooperation and perseverance, but with continued collaboration, I am confident we can
00:14:28.100 keep moving forward. I want to thank the government of Canada, Prime Minister Mark Carney, Indigenous
00:14:34.020 communities and leaders, our industry partners, and the thousands of workers who helped to make
00:14:39.300 this project a reality. One year ago, this project was a vision. Today, it has a clear path forward.
00:14:45.440 Today, we will make Canada an energy superpower.
00:14:49.440 Her view is that the fight with Ottawa produced a win.
00:14:52.440 The emissions cap was shelved.
00:14:54.440 The clean electricity rules were suspended.
00:14:57.440 And it has Ottawa's name on a pipeline,
00:14:59.440 so maybe it'll go through,
00:15:01.440 although you know he's going to obey the courts
00:15:03.440 if they invent some new Indigenous title. 0.99
00:15:05.440 I mean, maybe she's right.
00:15:07.440 I hope she's right, but I like Alberta and I like her.
00:15:12.440 But there's no deal here.
00:15:14.440 here. There's not even a prospective deal. There's no details on it. No oil company is willing to
00:15:20.020 sign on to this mess. Rogue judges inventing indigenous land title. Rogue premiers saying
00:15:25.260 they'll block it. And mainly a carbon tax crazed prime minister who used to head a whole NGO against
00:15:32.880 oil. And now he's insisting on Enron style make-believe carbon capture BS. I think the number
00:15:39.060 one fact about this pipeline isn't about the pipeline. It's about the referendum and how Mark
00:15:45.460 Carney hopes that his announcement today will convince low information voters that he really,
00:15:50.300 really, really is pro-Alberta. So please stay. Stay with us for more.
00:15:56.620 hey there normally i do an interview for the second part of my show but i wanted to talk
00:16:09.700 about something that's going on because i just know you're not going to see it anywhere else
00:16:13.840 i just know that in my bones i want to talk about the mayor of a french city of 150 000 people
00:16:20.020 standing beside a burning dumpster at a high school telling a tv crew that
00:16:24.540 violence can be legitimate and a week of riots setting fire to schools from Lille to Marseille,
00:16:32.360 France. Let me take you through this story. I want to start with the pictures because the
00:16:36.240 pictures sort of are the story. Take a look. That's a high school in Roubaix in the north of
00:16:41.560 France. Pardon me if my accent is terrible. The front door of this school, they're burning high
00:16:46.840 schools in France. The front door is on fire. Teenagers are standing around filming it on their
00:16:52.780 phones. They are burning down their own schools. So high school in Nantes, the entrance all burned
00:16:59.600 out. And that's a chemistry teacher in Lille kicked in the back, chased down the street by masked men.
00:17:07.820 The regional school director said he was poursuivi, busculé, chased and shoved. I'm sorry,
00:17:14.840 I shouldn't try my French anymore. This morning, Reuters reported that a head teacher at the Victor
00:17:21.100 hugo high school in marseille was doused in gasoline victor hugo is one of the most famous
00:17:30.320 french writers of all time he wrote the hunchback of notre dame he wrote les miserables which later
00:17:35.900 turned into that hit musical les miz victor hugo a cultured man a literate man that's the name of
00:17:42.940 the school and they're attacking it they're torching it here's the scale of it on wednesday
00:17:48.280 alone. 356 high schools were blockaded across France. Police made 625 arrests, about two-thirds
00:17:57.100 of the minors, 83 police officers and gendarmes were hurt, 119 students and school staff were hurt.
00:18:04.720 What kind of person targets of all things a school? Not that I'd like it anymore if they
00:18:10.200 were targeting banks or, I don't know, corporate change like McDonald's or Starbucks. Violence and
00:18:15.620 property destruction is wrong but seriously of all the things you're attacking it's your schools
00:18:22.180 the regional government for the paris area says the damage to its schools is already
00:18:26.640 close to a million euros it's got to be 10 times that based just on what i've seen online
00:18:31.240 at one school in saint denis called lycée paul el ward the repair bill alone is 100 000 euros
00:18:38.720 what's this all about well i mean i'll i'll tell you what they would say some of the kids say
00:18:45.080 that they have a point. They say, and it started a week ago at a high school in Crate, a suburb of
00:18:51.640 Paris, the students there say their classes have 32 or 35 kids in the class. Okay, that's not great,
00:18:59.260 but you're burning the place down. They say teachers go missing for weeks and nobody replaces
00:19:04.460 them. All right, that sounds like an administrative thing to fix. The buildings are
00:19:10.640 falling apart all right you know i'm i'm sure that's true uh one sign in the protest said from
00:19:16.300 8 a.m till 6 p.m we are are we students or are we in police custody yeah well you're students so
00:19:24.360 stay in school if that's an hour or two too long for you the answer is not to burn down your school
00:19:32.900 so everyone complains about class sizes but here's the thing you don't fix a shortage of
00:19:40.040 teachers by kicking a teacher in the back. You don't fix a crumbling school by burning it down.
00:19:45.780 I simply don't believe that school children or parents came up with this scheme. I'm certain
00:19:50.080 it's something like Antifa. This is a grievance machine. It genuinely wouldn't surprise me if
00:19:56.060 there were even foreign entities involved. I don't know, China, Iran, anyone trying to weaken
00:20:00.740 and demoralize and disrupt France. A lot of the people doing the burning aren't students at all,
00:20:06.300 obviously. It's like when we had those pro-Hamas encampments at universities in Canada. Most of the
00:20:12.380 people in them were not students. The French press keeps using the same phrase. I'm going to try this
00:20:17.600 one in French. Individus casuals. Okay, I'm going to stop. That's the last bit. That means
00:20:24.820 masked individuals dressed in black. That's the black bloc. The interior minister said this 1.00
00:20:31.480 morning in some places troublemakers were moving from school to school to incite violence these
00:20:36.820 are professionals moving from school to school that's not a protest that's uh that's like a
00:20:41.640 paramilitary operation and uh the political leader melencon he his answer to all this
00:20:48.040 he says the students in the movement are harmless he's he's a commie tell that to the chemistry
00:20:55.200 teacher. That teacher doused him, dousing a teacher in gasoline. So is there anyone leading
00:21:01.960 the riots who isn't wearing a mask? Is there anyone who we could talk to or who could make
00:21:06.880 a statement? Well, let me show you. There is a man named Bally Bagayoko. He's not a student. He's 53
00:21:14.060 years old. He's the mayor of Saint-Denis, a city of 150,000 people just north of Paris. It's the
00:21:21.460 city with the big national stadium in it it's a city where the kings of france are buried
00:21:26.380 he's a member of something called la france insoumise france unbound that's the hard left
00:21:36.120 party i mentioned before of jean-luc melanchon melanchon i'm sorry i'm butchering these words
00:21:41.120 so he was elected in march in the first round with just over