Rebel News Podcast - Fighting fake news about Israel, and social media censorship (Guest： Brian of London)

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00:01:16.720 The Tommy Robinson campaign for MEP, big tech censorship, and how Hamas is continuing to target Israeli citizens.

00:01:28.560 We're talking about a lot tonight.

00:01:30.280 I'm Sheila Gundryd, and you're watching The Gun Show.

00:01:32.920 Now, I've said it before, and I'm sure I'll say it dozens more times before I finally hang up my reporter badge,

00:01:56.220 that fake news, as we know it today, was perfected against the state of Israel.

00:02:01.080 The tactics of deceptively editing videos, putting women and children up front in war zones,

00:02:07.320 and then painting the aggressors as the innocent little victims have been long used against Israel for decades

00:02:13.320 to make them look heavy-handed when responding to constant violence, rocket attacks, kidnappings,

00:02:19.660 and all other manner of terrorism directed at Israeli citizens by their Islamic extremist neighbors.

00:02:26.620 So, instead of going to the fake news in the mainstream media to find out exactly what's happening on the ground in Israel,

00:02:34.860 I like to turn to the people who are on the ground in Israel.

00:02:38.520 And as it turns out, one of my Israeli friends has also had his pro-Israel Facebook page censored

00:02:44.500 because he is an avid supporter of Tommy Robinson.

00:02:48.320 So, we obviously have a lot to talk about, don't we?

00:02:51.060 So, joining me from his fortified home in Tel Aviv in an interview we recorded what would have been Tuesday morning for me

00:02:59.200 and Tuesday night for him is my friend, activist, journalist, and blogger, Brian of London.

00:03:21.060 So, joining me now from Tel Aviv is my friend, Brian of London.

00:03:27.540 Hey, Brian, thanks for joining me.

00:03:29.020 We have so much to talk about from the fact that, you know,

00:03:33.340 Israel has been engaged in a bit of a, you know, frankly, a war over the, about the past week

00:03:39.480 to the media treatment of Israel for defending itself to Tommy Robinson

00:03:44.720 and the censorship of conservatives.

00:03:47.960 You've been a victim of that.

00:03:51.160 There's a lot to talk about, isn't there?

00:03:53.940 Yeah.

00:03:54.540 Should we start with the war?

00:03:55.820 Because, you know, I mean, wars lead.

00:03:57.880 If it bleeds, it leads.

00:03:59.620 Yes, yes.

00:04:01.200 And I tell you what, okay, on a sit, hi, I'm Brian of London, by the way.

00:04:07.200 And I'm Brian of London, and I'll just explain for your audience that don't know me,

00:04:11.300 I am of London, I am not in London, so I moved to Israel about 10 years ago.

00:04:16.100 And I'm sitting here in a bomb shelter in Tel Aviv.

00:04:20.000 And I say, when I say a bomb shelter, it's a real bomb shelter,

00:04:23.480 because the door behind me is steel.

00:04:25.620 The window to my left has got a one centimetre thick steel shutter that I can draw across.

00:04:31.760 And for the last week, well, for the last few days, anyway, we had that steel shutter closed.

00:04:37.640 Because if an alarm were to go in this area, which fortunately, on this occasion, it hasn't,

00:04:44.160 then we would, you know, my family and I would run in here, we'd have about 90 seconds,

00:04:49.560 which is a veritable fortune of time compared to the south of Israel.

00:04:54.960 And we'd have about 90 seconds to get in here.

00:04:57.200 And this room, which is built in the centre of the tower block, so it's sort of the core of the

00:05:03.240 building, this room is supposed to be able to withstand, you know, if the building took a direct

00:05:08.280 hit from one of the larger rockets that could get here, this room would be okay, even if the rest of

00:05:15.640 the building was a complete mess.

00:05:17.100 So that's, and that's built into almost all modern Israeli homes.

00:05:20.680 So that leads into why when 700 rockets were shot at us, were there only four deaths?

00:05:31.740 Well, I think it was four on our side, which is terrible.

00:05:34.780 It's a very high number.

00:05:36.640 But it's because of precautions like this room, the alarms that we have, and of course,

00:05:41.980 the famous iron dome that knocks out some of the missiles on the way.

00:05:45.720 Yeah. And I mean, you say you have 90 seconds to get into your bomb shelter there in Tel Aviv.

00:05:52.120 But when you look at the folks in, for example, Starote or some of the places that are closer to

00:05:56.300 Gaza, they really have, you know, no time at all. 0.97

00:05:59.540 The sirens go and they have to run.

00:06:01.360 And I've been in Starote and they've done their best to make it, you know, a growing,

00:06:06.080 thriving community.

00:06:06.940 But every bus shelter is a bomb shelter.

00:06:10.720 The playgrounds have the netting over top to protect the children.

00:06:16.700 I mean, it is really, for someone like me, I've never been exposed to any of that.

00:06:22.520 The conditions in which Israelis have to live just to live next door to people who want to 1.00

00:06:29.980 wipe them off the face of the earth.

00:06:31.440 I mean, it's really, to see, I guess to put it this way, to see communities like Starote 1.00

00:06:38.000 growing and thriving, despite the fact that one kilometer away, people are trying to kill

00:06:42.800 them every single day, I think is a testament to the Israeli spirit.

00:06:47.700 Well, that's exactly it.

00:06:49.280 I mean, I've got it.

00:06:50.920 I just, maybe I'll hold this up.

00:06:52.300 Maybe this will work.

00:06:53.560 I mean, this is, this is just a sort of a screen.

00:06:57.500 Can you see that?

00:06:58.320 Yes, that's what it looks like when, when we're under rocket attack, I've got this app

00:07:03.420 on my phone.

00:07:04.120 I don't know what that notification is.

00:07:06.820 I got this app on my phone that just shows each rocket alarm in the south.

00:07:13.920 Now, these were all in the south.

00:07:15.160 And as you say, down there, they've got five to 15 seconds if they're lucky.

00:07:20.180 And they really run.

00:07:21.540 And I mean, you have to run.

00:07:22.800 And the people who were hurt or injured in this current round, you know, they just didn't

00:07:27.060 get to cover in time.

00:07:28.260 Sometimes you can't.

00:07:29.200 You're in a car.

00:07:30.200 One, one person was killed in, by an actually by an anti-tank missile.

00:07:36.200 This is again, this is stuff you are not going to hear in the mainstream media.

00:07:39.660 You will not hear details.

00:07:41.280 You'll hear maybe a headline number.

00:07:43.520 You'll hear this crazy thing of, of exchanging deaths.

00:07:46.880 So they'll always treat deaths on our side and deaths on their side as equivalent.

00:07:50.900 So one person was killed because they were driving on a road that probably, in hindsight,

00:07:56.360 should have been shut.

00:07:58.300 And it was within sight of Gaza.

00:08:00.840 And they fired an anti-tank missile at a civilian car.

00:08:05.920 And that means that somebody in Gaza was holding this anti-tank missile and guiding it towards

00:08:12.420 a civilian car.

00:08:13.800 So that is, you know, that's an absolutely deliberate and total attack on a civilian.

00:08:20.080 Yeah.

00:08:20.900 And he died in his car.

00:08:22.740 It's a Cornette missile.

00:08:24.440 It's basically a Russian design thing.

00:08:27.180 Then it passed into Iran and it gets remanufactured in either Iran or I think they can even remanufacture

00:08:34.100 some parts of that in the Gaza Strip.

00:08:36.920 And I know this missile because my brother-in-law actually in the Lebanon War in 2006, his unit

00:08:42.880 was hit by one of these missiles.

00:08:45.880 And then an Israeli tank responded.

00:08:47.820 So, you know, this is a real weapon of war.

00:08:51.320 This is not homemade.

00:08:52.620 This is not sort of lightweight war.

00:08:55.900 This is full-on war against a civilian population.

00:08:59.460 And you don't really get those little nuances and details.

00:09:04.580 No, in fact, you know, I was reading Israel Hayom today.

00:09:10.600 I'm probably saying that wrong.

00:09:12.040 Israel Hayom.

00:09:13.100 It means Israel today.

00:09:14.580 I'm from the prairies.

00:09:14.980 My Hebrew isn't that great.

00:09:16.360 That's fine.

00:09:17.380 Hayom is today.

00:09:19.960 So Israel Hayom just means Israel today.

00:09:22.340 Very simple.

00:09:22.760 And they're talking about the atrocious coverage in the New York Times.

00:09:27.300 And if you'll remember the New York Times just days ago or maybe a week ago, I mean, they

00:09:32.300 were responsible for that anti-Semitic cartoon where Israel is the dog that's leading the United

00:09:38.740 States.

00:09:39.440 And then they publish this, an article that basically says, this is their headline, Gaza

00:09:47.520 militants.

00:09:48.440 This is from a few days.

00:09:49.300 So the the rocket numbers are a little higher now.

00:09:53.600 Gaza militants, militants.

00:09:55.460 They're not calling them terrorists.

00:09:56.920 Militants fire 250 rockets.

00:09:59.740 And Israel responds with airstrikes as though Israel's being heavy handed defending innocent

00:10:08.160 citizens from 200 like it's it's more than double that now.

00:10:13.040 But 250 rockets fired at innocent civilians mining their business is a lot.

00:10:18.700 And, you know, the the you know, this sort of sentiment here is that Israel has no business

00:10:26.360 being absolutely heavy handed in defending their citizens.

00:10:31.540 I've seen some of the drone footage that the IDF Twitter account puts out.

00:10:36.220 They're pretty precise.

00:10:38.480 And there's some details.

00:10:40.860 Firstly, firstly, OK, I'll just point out some one some details that you can get just by

00:10:46.180 looking at Twitter.

00:10:46.940 OK, one, the Gazans, the people in Gaza, they often share videos of buildings being demolished.

00:10:53.940 What you'll notice about a lot of those videos is they knew where to point their cameras.

00:11:00.200 How do you know where to point your camera when a bomb is falling?

00:11:03.420 You only know where to point your camera if you've been told where the bomb is going to fall.

00:11:07.620 So a lot of the time we were bombing again empty buildings, which is somewhat annoying.

00:11:13.180 OK, so we took out their cyber HQ command and probably blew up some nice gaming machines.

00:11:18.640 But I'm kind of the population is getting a bit annoyed with with taking out buildings.

00:11:25.180 However, in this case, we also did take out some key people.

00:11:29.240 And there was a video that the IDF showed.

00:11:31.600 They shared two videos, I think one of a strike on a motorcycle and one of a strike on a car.

00:11:37.220 Now, I've watched this stuff for a long time.

00:11:41.480 These were like busy streets and a missile hits a car on a busy street and nobody else is damaged.

00:11:47.500 Just the car.

00:11:49.260 If you go Google and look for sort of the aftermath of American hellfire hits in Yemen,

00:11:56.040 you will find 15 meter craters where hellfire missiles took out, you know, a single ISIS pickup or an Al-Qaeda pickup.

00:12:08.460 So we're obviously using very it's probably the hellfire missile.

00:12:12.200 It's probably the same missile, but it's very low yield because we know we're trying to take out one motorcycle on a busy street.

00:12:19.100 It's unbelievable precision.

00:12:21.520 Unbelievable.

00:12:22.000 I mean, I don't think any any army in the history of warfare has ever cared so much and we get no credit for it.

00:12:29.720 OK, we keep doing it because I think that's our nature.

00:12:34.280 I mean, we really have no interest in mass slaughter of unarmed civilians because there's just that we have such a massive prejudice within ourselves against doing that.

00:12:48.240 We will not do it.

00:12:49.420 You know, I mean, I see those crowds cheering and shouting and claiming victory.

00:12:56.140 You know, you want to put a bomb in those, but we never do that.

00:12:59.980 We absolutely never do that.

00:13:02.100 And yet we're accused of it.

00:13:04.140 And I mean, the biggest one for us this time around was, you know, very early on, always there's a pregnant mother and a child killed.

00:13:11.800 And immediately the world's press take as gospel truth, whatever the Hamas or the what's called the Gaza Health Ministry, which is actually run by Hamas, they take whatever they say.

00:13:23.740 So their headlines all scream pregnant woman and child killed in Israel killed during Israeli air raids or whatever it does.

00:13:34.220 I mean, you know, the time cycle has come down a little bit, but we're absolutely certain now that no Israeli activity was happening where this woman died.

00:13:43.380 And it sounds like Palestinian Islamic Jihad is admitting to the fact that it was one of their rockets falling short, as always happens.

00:13:53.100 Because if they shot 600 or 700 that actually made it into Israeli airspace, you can you can guarantee that 50 to 100 fell short and landed in Gaza itself.

00:14:05.180 Yeah, I mean, you look at places like, for example, here in Canada, the CBC or The New York Times or CNN, they're taking the numbers from the Gazan Health Authority, which is a mouthpiece for a U.S. designated terrorist group.

00:14:21.740 They're taking them as a credible source of information about casualties.

00:14:27.420 And they're not even pretending that there are almost no foreign journalists in Gaza.

00:14:32.880 It's too dangerous because if they were to report anything that Hamas didn't like, they would be taken out to the back and at best beaten up and at worst shot.

00:14:42.860 So there are no ways to corroborate independently any of the information that they're given.

00:14:49.320 And they don't even tell you.

00:14:51.000 They do not even say this is the these these are numbers from the Gaza Health Ministry, which has lied and lied and lied.

00:14:57.400 And everything they've ever told us in the past was a lie.

00:15:00.380 They don't say that to you.

00:15:01.960 No.

00:15:02.240 No. And then and then, you know, at the bottom of the article, maybe they'll put in a you know, they'll they'll put in a and the idea, the idea vehemently denied.

00:15:13.800 But that'll appear in paragraph 38.

00:15:16.880 Right.

00:15:17.500 Right.

00:15:18.200 Long after you quit reading.

00:15:19.460 Which leads which which I must say leads most of us here in Israel, especially the non Anglos, especially the ones who are not looking at the foreign press. 1.00

00:15:27.800 We just they just don't care and they don't want us to care.

00:15:31.600 And I mean, if anything, there is some there's always anger that we maybe we stop too early.

00:15:40.120 But I mean, I've like to bring it on to the political level, I've I've gone looking.

00:15:45.320 So the press is all full of, you know, politicians in Gaza saying that that there have been all these concessions and that we're going to start opening up the imports and letting them have things that we haven't had for a while.

00:15:59.200 But when I actually look, the the only thing that's been said from the Israeli side and like I'm done with the media now, I'm done with anonymous sources.

00:16:08.900 Prime Minister Netanyahu's remarks on recent events in the South.

00:16:12.480 I will read it in full because it is so short.

00:16:15.380 Over the last two days, we struck Hamas and Islamic Jihad with great force. 0.93

00:16:19.880 We hit over 350 targets.

00:16:22.640 We struck at terrorist leaders and operatives and we destroyed terrorist building.

00:16:27.140 The campaign is not over.

00:16:30.420 It demands patience and sagacity.

00:16:33.180 If someone can tell me how to pronounce that, I'll say it differently.

00:16:36.020 Sagacity.

00:16:37.340 We are prepared to continue.

00:16:38.640 The goal has been and remains ensuring quiet and security for the residents of the South.

00:16:43.040 I send condolences to the families and best wishes for recovery to the wounded.

00:16:47.900 That's it.

00:16:48.520 That's what we've said on Israel's side.

00:16:50.220 So, I mean, it's not really a ceasefire as far as I can tell.

00:16:54.100 You know, it's not one of these surrenders.

00:16:55.780 You know, I hope that's the case.

00:16:58.200 And the big deal is that, and I mean, it's literally, it's three kilometres outside my window.

00:17:03.840 We're going to be holding the Eurovision Song Contest, which I know in North America, you

00:17:07.900 haven't got a clue how big this is.

00:17:10.100 But trust me on this, it's absolutely enormous.

00:17:15.020 It really is bigger than you imagine.

00:17:17.620 And it's starting next week.

00:17:22.060 But a lot of the, but all the competitors, oh, my headphones are causing problems.

00:17:26.260 All the competitors are already in Israel.

00:17:29.180 And so it was a, it was a very, very big deal that we didn't have any air raid alarms in Tel

00:17:36.800 Aviv while this was ongoing, because I think that would have shaken some people up.

00:17:42.860 But, and the other, the other thing that's happening now is that tonight we're going to

00:17:48.820 have, we're going to have a siren actually in two hours time, which is going to be the

00:17:52.680 siren to mark the start of our Memorial Day.

00:17:54.820 This is our Memorial Day for fallen soldiers, those fallen in war and fallen in acts of terror.

00:18:02.820 So unfortunately, we'll be commemorating this year, we're commemorating, you know, those

00:18:08.840 who were just killed right now in this act, you know, by the rockets and so forth.

00:18:13.560 And my, my, my own friend, Ari Fuldu was killed in the previous year.

00:18:18.980 So this is the first ceremony since he, he was murdered.

00:18:22.700 Um, and we do that for 25 hours, you know, from sun, sun down tonight till sundown tomorrow.

00:18:30.820 And then the day after we flip into our independence day.

00:18:35.480 Uh, I can just keep talking.

00:18:38.060 I know I, I try to leave, get, leave gaps for you, but the point is, this, this is these

00:18:46.740 two days, uh, Yom HaZikaron, that, which is day of memory.

00:18:50.820 That's the literal translation and Yom HaZikaron and Yom HaZikaron and Yom HaZikaron and Yom HaZikaron,

00:19:09.720 Memorial Day for the Fallen.

00:19:11.100 It is so different to the kind of American and even now, you know, the British, which 1.00

00:19:17.860 is on November the 11th.

00:19:19.040 I presume Canada follows Britain with, you know, Armistice Day on November the 11th.

00:19:24.200 I mean, the whole of the Commonwealth does.

00:19:25.980 It's still solemn, but we have this, you know, because we have this, uh, countrywide siren

00:19:33.160 and it's twice on Yom HaZikaron.

00:19:36.120 So it'll be at eight o'clock tonight.

00:19:37.940 Everything will stop.

00:19:38.900 Cars will stop on the motorways.

00:19:40.420 Literally stop driving.

00:19:42.820 Wherever you are, you stop, you get out, you stand by your car for two minutes.

00:19:46.560 And then tomorrow morning at 11 o'clock, people will gather in, uh, all of the cemeteries

00:19:51.980 where military, um, are buried.

00:19:54.800 There's a huge cemetery just next to my house.

00:19:57.860 Um, one of the biggest in Tel Aviv and, and, you know, the whole area here becomes completely

00:20:03.780 closed off.

00:20:04.940 You can't get in or out.

00:20:06.520 Uh, and I think tomorrow I'm going to be up actually in Gush Etzion, um, which is the

00:20:13.060 high ground that's just South of Jerusalem, which you've visited, I'm sure.

00:20:18.700 Yes.

00:20:18.960 Um, and Etzion Junction, there's a place where we're going to be having a memorial for Ari

00:20:24.220 Fuld, uh, and this was, you know, Gush Etzion is very, I tell you, it's a very important

00:20:33.300 place, I think, for Jews because it's a part of land.

00:20:37.260 It's, it was, it had been, Jews had come back there and really built lots of communities

00:20:44.000 and stuff prior to 1948.

00:20:46.080 But in the independence war of 1948, we just couldn't hold it.

00:20:50.700 It was too remote.

00:20:51.600 It was, we couldn't even hold on to all of Jerusalem. 0.98

00:20:54.780 So the remote Kibbutzim outside of Jerusalem to the South in the hills, we couldn't reinforce. 0.84

00:21:01.520 And eventually they were surrounded and overrun by the Jordanian army with the help of the

00:21:06.260 British, um, you know, British supplied, British trained, uh, and they slaughtered some 1.00

00:21:11.820 and they captured some.

00:21:13.080 And that area got turned into what the Jordanians called the West Bank.

00:21:18.140 Um, and it was liberated in 1967.

00:21:22.160 And now there are, you know, large numbers of people living there.

00:21:25.900 And Ari Fuld, my friend, was one of the people who lives up there, who lived up there.

00:21:30.020 And, uh, I'll be going to his memorial there.

00:21:32.780 And it's a very important place for us to be.

00:21:37.160 Now, I wanted to, you know, you know, it's, it's so good to hear, you know, like you say,

00:21:45.020 you point out, especially us Commonwealth countries, our, um, remembrance day celebrations or armistice

00:21:51.060 or whatever the other Commonwealth countries call it, uh, very solemn days.

00:21:55.300 Um, but, um, yours leading up to, um, your independence day.

00:22:00.620 Um, I think it's sort of most, yeah, it's peculiar.

00:22:05.940 It is.

00:22:06.720 I mean, it's like, it's not, it's not something I ever understood when I didn't live here.

00:22:11.040 Yeah.

00:22:12.220 Because it's this, you know, I mean, it's already, it's winding down now.

00:22:17.060 I can hear, I mean, literally I can hear that the traffic is lighter now than it normally is at this time of the evening.

00:22:23.460 Um, the restaurants will be shut tonight.

00:22:25.740 Cinemas will be shut tonight.

00:22:27.120 The television will switch into a somber thing.

00:22:29.220 It will replay documentaries about fallen soldiers and people killed in terrorist attacks.

00:22:34.840 It might well be that the program about my, about my friend, Kay Wilson, who, you know, um, Sheila,

00:22:41.500 cause you've interviewed her.

00:22:43.360 Um, I, they might be playing her, the documentary about the attack that, that took her friend's life

00:22:49.780 and almost claimed hers.

00:22:52.280 They'll show that on TV.

00:22:53.920 They'll show lots of these and it's running.

00:22:56.160 And then one of the channels just shows the name.

00:22:58.540 So it's just a name, you know, name, name, and it will show all the names going all the way back to 1948.

00:23:05.280 Or even before, actually, I think it sort of goes back to the twenties and so on.

00:23:09.960 So those killed in the Hebron massacre, um, before the, the establishment of the state of Israel.

00:23:16.520 It links most definitely what we have, which is this Jewish state of Israel, which is our home,

00:23:22.920 which is a refuge, which is somewhere that Jews all over the world, you know, however bad Europe gets.

00:23:30.540 And those, some of those Jews might not be grateful for it now, but we're here for them,

00:23:37.000 no matter how much they hate us now and want to BDS us and join J street and do other crazy things. 0.95

00:23:43.880 If they show up at the airport and say, we would like refuge, we'll take them. 1.00

00:23:48.800 That's what we're here for.

00:23:50.360 And that's linked to the sacrifices of so many who laid down their lives and fought in wars and in acts of terror committed along the way to have what we have.

00:24:01.960 It's very important.

00:24:02.720 Um, changing gears.

00:24:06.460 I don't know how I can segue away from something so poignant.

00:24:08.980 Um, but, uh, let's change gears completely to, um, although I guess we're still talking about freedom, um, to big tech censorship.

00:24:19.920 You, you have been a victim of Facebook purging.

00:24:26.000 Um, and you have a theory about why that happened to you.

00:24:29.560 I used to be on your Facebook and I never saw anything crazy, but all of a sudden one day you were gone.

00:24:34.520 Um, and you know, just Twitter, just, I guess it, by the time people are seeing this, it would be like Monday night that it happened.

00:24:42.020 So they'll be seeing this Wednesday.

00:24:43.340 We're talking Tuesday.

00:24:44.480 Um, Mike Morrison, an Orthodox Jew who had a parody account of, um, AOC, the, the easily, uh, yeah, like, so, and a very clearly marked as a parody account, because that's one of the rules. 0.52

00:24:59.880 If you have a parody account, you have to mark it as parody.

00:25:02.180 Well, he had it in the name and the bio and Twitter nuked his account.

00:25:06.040 And I think it was because it was so effective and it's leading up into the 2020 election.

00:25:11.340 So it's time to silence all those effective voices.

00:25:13.480 And I think, I think you and I would agree.

00:25:16.540 The same thing happened to you leading up to another election that I think is probably pretty important for our friends in the UK.

00:25:24.320 Yeah.

00:25:25.240 Well, look, it's no secret.

00:25:27.180 I hosted Tommy Robinson in Israel.

00:25:29.220 I've supported Tommy Robinson pretty much since the beginning of the EDL.

00:25:33.000 I was one of the first people to really look critically at who he was, what he was saying, what were the people around him doing, what, what was the EDL all about?

00:25:41.520 And I established very early on that they were not far right or whatever that means today.

00:25:47.440 But back then it did have a meaning then.

00:25:49.740 And he wasn't that he wasn't anti-Jewish.

00:25:52.660 He didn't hold any of this Zionist Rothschild conspiracy nonsense in his head.

00:25:57.680 In fact, back in the earliest days, he had no idea what Jews were.

00:26:01.480 He just knew that Jews had never caused any problem for him in his life.

00:26:04.660 You know, on a mountain, on a micro scale, he he was not never in playground fights with gangs of of angry Jews. 0.96

00:26:13.960 It just didn't happen.

00:26:15.720 Whereas the playground at his school was divided, not on racial lines, not black versus white or black versus brown.

00:26:24.500 It was divided on Muslims and non-Muslims, Kuffar and and Muslims.

00:26:29.560 So I really sussed him out very, very early and he hasn't let me down, to be honest.

00:26:36.920 Anyway, when he was banned from Facebook, basically because all parts of the British government demanded it.

00:26:44.400 My Facebook account, my main Brian John Thomas, as it was called, account was deleted that day.

00:26:52.200 My page, my Brian of London page lived on for a while because I had designated some friends as administrators.

00:27:00.000 But then I was just in London actually last week over the Easter holiday with my kids.

00:27:04.260 And while I was in London, you know, Brian of London's page was finally just erased, just gone, whoosh, whoosh, the history is gone.

00:27:15.580 And mostly it was it was years of pro-Israel work, bit of bit of real talk about Islam.

00:27:22.960 But, you know, mostly Israel related stuff.

00:27:26.820 But of course, it has some pictures of Tommy and I'm obviously close to Tommy.

00:27:30.660 So gone.

00:27:31.760 And what's what's actually happened in Britain is that the government has told Facebook and YouTube because, you know, that they've hobbled his YouTube channel completely.

00:27:47.140 They've put every single video of his that he's ever done, including, you know, there's a video.

00:27:52.020 There's videos of him where he's giving a wheelchair to a disabled child.

00:27:57.560 Yes.

00:27:57.720 This is in limited state.

00:27:59.660 This video is so controversial that you are not allowed to comment on it, like it, share it or see it without clicking a warning that the contents might be might be upsetting to you.

00:28:11.420 He's a is a is a man handing over a wheel, a motorized wheelchair to a child because he raised the money for it.

00:28:19.700 And that's how crazy the UK has become.

00:28:23.340 And, you know, right now, the UK has gone into these insane European parliamentary election, which they should never have been because Europe was supposed to be.

00:28:35.240 Britain was supposed to be out of the European Parliament on March the 29th.

00:28:39.060 But Theresa May has messed it up. 0.94

00:28:42.240 And so they have to hold these elections.

00:28:44.880 And Tommy's running. 0.99

00:28:45.940 And damn it, I really hope he wins. 0.99

00:28:49.080 I really I tell you nothing. 0.99

00:28:51.960 I may you know, it's almost it would give him no power.

00:28:57.640 It would give him no reasonable power.

00:28:59.540 I mean, he'll have the power to give a one minute speech in the EU Parliament.

00:29:03.880 But the message it will send, I think, is almost Trumpian.

00:29:09.300 It's it's definitely the biggest thing to happen since the Brexit vote if he can take this seat.

00:29:15.780 But at the same time, talk about collusion and talk about trying to influence democracy.

00:29:21.440 His page, because I was an administrator on his Facebook page, over a million likes, over a million followers, huge engagement.

00:29:29.420 I mean, way bigger than Corbyn, Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the Labour Party, way bigger than the Labour Party in terms of engagement.

00:29:37.680 When we posted videos on that and his page was disappeared within 24 hours of posting his expose on the BBC panodrome.

00:29:48.180 We put that up.

00:29:49.360 It was up for just under 24 hours.

00:29:52.240 It got one million views, according to Facebook's crazy statistics.

00:29:57.620 And then gone.

00:30:00.580 And this is a huge this is influencing democracy.

00:30:06.220 He's not going to be allowed access on the BBC.

00:30:08.780 So social media was his method.

00:30:11.400 But, you know, I have to say, he's got his own website now, tr.news.

00:30:15.940 We've got the Telegram channel up and running, which is really interesting.

00:30:19.560 I'm very, very impressed with Telegram because it's it's it was started by two Russians who are dissident.

00:30:26.400 Putin has tried to shut Telegram down.

00:30:29.420 So it's not Russian controlled.

00:30:31.840 I think they're running it from Dubai or something.

00:30:34.340 But they really just don't care what you say.

00:30:36.860 I mean, basically, their terms and conditions are don't do anything illegal or don't say anything illegal in public.

00:30:44.380 If you say it in private, their terms and conditions are like this big.

00:30:50.640 It's brilliant.

00:30:51.900 So but we'll see.

00:30:53.440 But we have we have to be the rebel.

00:30:57.020 I mean, that's the point is it was too easy.

00:31:00.180 We had Facebook.

00:31:01.280 And you know this and rebel knows this.

00:31:04.060 You win on a level playing field.

00:31:06.060 Your ideas, our ideas, conservative ideas.

00:31:10.260 We win because the left cannot argue a thing.

00:31:14.600 They have nothing to come back.

00:31:16.520 So they have to infiltrate these organizations, take over with their sort of little millennial zombie armies and and just change the rules.

00:31:27.240 They can't win on a level playing field.

00:31:29.440 No. And, you know, you touched on this, and I think it's a very important point for all the conspiracy theories about foreign meddling in the American election.

00:31:40.360 The Russians were involved.

00:31:41.640 The Russians were this. 1.00

00:31:42.760 You know, there's a Russian under everybody's couch during this last election. 1.00

00:31:48.020 This is actual foreign meddling.

00:31:49.580 When they nuke Tommy Robinson's wide-reaching ability to communicate with his potential voters, thus, you know, harming his election chances, this is foreign meddling in a in a UK election.

00:32:06.700 And nobody seems to be all that concerned about it because all the elites, they really don't seem to like the target.

00:32:13.260 So they're fine and dandy.

00:32:14.480 It's, you know, it's this situational ethics when it comes to free speech.

00:32:18.120 Oh, I'm all, I believe in free speech, except when that person says something that I don't like.

00:32:23.560 And that's not really free speech.

00:32:25.500 That's just acceptable speech, which is really the opposite of free speech.

00:32:30.180 It's totally, people have forgotten.

00:32:32.240 You know, I say this all the time.

00:32:33.720 It's one of my mantras, which is that voting is the last and least important part of democracy.

00:32:40.080 The speech that leads up to it, being free to talk.

00:32:44.520 This is the difference between a fear society and a free society.

00:32:49.720 The speech, it's so important.

00:32:52.480 And we are completely constrained.

00:32:54.680 And it's, you know, instead of it getting worse, we are closing it down.

00:32:58.680 You know, you can't talk about, you can't misgender someone.

00:33:02.960 I mean, God forbid, I don't know how they've been saying that the new royal baby is a boy,

00:33:09.220 because it would appear to me that we should be waiting a little while for the child to decide for itself.

00:33:14.240 I don't know why we're imposing these gender normative roles on the royal baby at such an early stage.

00:33:20.520 How do we know it's a boy?

00:33:23.340 You know, really?

00:33:24.960 That's the situation we're in.

00:33:26.840 I'm telling a joke about this now.

00:33:29.360 I'm wondering whether your channel will be demonetized because of my joke.

00:33:33.740 Or it was demonetized longer.

00:33:36.040 If we say anything about Trudeau or feminism or Islam or terrorism, instant demonetization.

00:33:43.580 They instantly demonetize that video.

00:33:45.320 That's just how it is.

00:33:46.300 Now, it hasn't stopped us from talking about those things.

00:33:48.600 It's probably encouraged us to talk about those things.

00:33:51.780 Because now we know people, the powers that be, don't want to hear from us saying those things because we're speaking the truth.

00:33:59.140 So, thanks for letting us know, YouTube.

00:34:03.520 Thanks for that.

00:34:05.160 Brian, I'm going to give you an opportunity to, because I've had you for over 30 minutes here.

00:34:11.320 And I know that you have things that you need to do tonight.

00:34:15.400 I want to give you a chance to let people know where they can find you on the social media platforms that you have remaining and how they can support some of your work.

00:34:28.400 Yeah.

00:34:28.720 Well, I am still on Twitter.

00:34:30.960 But the primary one, the one that I've set up, that I own, is brianoflondon.me.

00:34:38.180 It's my website.

00:34:39.600 Nobody can.

00:34:40.420 Well, it's hard to take it away from me.

00:34:43.440 I'm not saying nobody can.

00:34:45.100 But brianoflondon.me.

00:34:47.340 And links to everything flow from that.

00:34:49.480 I'm using Telegram a lot more.

00:34:51.140 And you can find me on there as brianoflondon.me has got links to everything.

00:34:59.920 And I'm brianoflondon on Twitter for as long as that lasts.

00:35:02.700 But as I said, I'm done with Facebook.

00:35:04.420 In fact, this is a chat for another time.

00:35:07.580 But just to say, I am working with someone here in Israel.

00:35:10.920 We are planning to sue.

00:35:12.580 And I'm not joking.

00:35:13.480 We're planning to sue Facebook and Google in Australia for hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:35:19.980 And I'm not joking.

00:35:22.060 Hundreds of billions of dollars because they did something that is illegal under Australian

00:35:26.460 competition law.

00:35:27.620 And they don't even know it.

00:35:29.240 And they did it.

00:35:30.280 And it is very illegal.

00:35:32.140 And we've got a huge, huge claim of damages, a class action.

00:35:36.940 I'm putting that, helping put that together.

00:35:38.620 But I actually, I just want to destroy Facebook.

00:35:42.240 It's a megalomaniac goal.

00:35:44.240 But it's a stretch goal.

00:35:45.920 It's my goal to bring down Facebook.

00:35:48.260 So find me at brianoflondon.me and you'll find more information on my plans.

00:35:54.460 Brian, I absolutely cannot wait.

00:35:57.040 I can't wait to see Facebook brought to its knees in the same way that I can't wait to

00:36:02.200 see Gavin McInnes take the SPLC to the cleaners.

00:36:07.060 Oh, I just, I can't wait.

00:36:08.200 And I think it's time that more people fight back.

00:36:10.200 You know, we just, they nuke these conservative accounts and everybody goes, whoa, that's the

00:36:15.620 terms of service, you know, they're a private company.

00:36:18.000 No, this Australian case.

00:36:20.820 Let me tell you, just a tease on it.

00:36:23.760 Because what's so funny is that what happened was that these companies, Google and Facebook,

00:36:29.380 within weeks of each other, banned the advertising of almost anything related to the entire crypto

00:36:35.720 industry.

00:36:36.500 That's Bitcoin.

00:36:37.560 But it's also anything you can do with the technology that underlies crypto currencies.

00:36:43.720 They banned it.

00:36:44.620 They just banned it. 0.79

00:36:45.200 They said, in effect, what they said was, some of this is a scam.

00:36:49.860 So we're just going to ban all of it while we check.

00:36:53.400 And it's like saying that, you know, you get some Nigerian scam emails.

00:36:57.740 So we're just going to take Nigeria off the internet for now. 0.95

00:37:01.040 That's what they did.

00:37:01.720 And that might be legal in America, but it turns out it's really not legal in a lot of

00:37:06.960 other places.

00:37:07.600 And Australia is one of the places that's got very strict rules.

00:37:11.720 When two companies that together operate more than 80% of the advertising market, which they

00:37:17.320 do, when they do take exactly the same action at the same time, they've got a problem because

00:37:23.940 they shouldn't have done that.

00:37:25.880 Now, if they'd have asked for permission in Australia, they'd, you know, but they didn't.

00:37:30.340 And they probably have no idea that they should.

00:37:33.680 They just, they're just Silicon Valley companies that are arrogant.

00:37:39.380 That's what I, and they just said, okay, these are our rules.

00:37:42.420 And right now, Facebook is on the verge of launching its own cryptocurrency.

00:37:47.220 So something that it declared to be a scam and too dangerous to advertise on Facebook,

00:37:52.820 they're about to spend billions of dollars launching.

00:37:56.980 No, we're going to, you know, we're raising the money to bring the case.

00:38:00.700 It'll be a class action case.

00:38:02.180 And I'm really, I'm really actually quite excited by it.

00:38:05.200 So you can find on brianoflondon.me.

00:38:07.320 You'll see, I'll put up links to that.

00:38:10.200 That is fantastic.

00:38:11.460 Brian, I want to thank you for being so generous with your time and coming on the show.

00:38:15.280 I'm sure we'll talk again.

00:38:16.620 Please stay safe and keep fighting for free speech from wherever you are,

00:38:24.400 be it back in Britain or over there in Israel.

00:38:27.720 Yep, yep, yep.

00:38:28.520 Always do.

00:38:29.440 Okay.

00:38:30.340 Thanks, Brian.

00:38:32.000 Thank you.

00:38:32.740 Now, I might be a little biased, but I think the work that Brian does is pretty darn effective.

00:38:49.460 And I think Facebook has had to admit that too.

00:38:51.520 And that's exactly why they censored him.

00:38:54.220 You see, Brian's been telling the other side of this story of what's happening on the ground in Israel

00:38:58.560 because Israel is on the front lines of the global jihad.

00:39:02.820 And Brian's guilty of the new Orwellian wrong think of just thinking maybe, maybe,

00:39:08.700 Tommy Robinson has a bit of a point when it comes to Islamic rape gangs and extremism in Britain.

00:39:15.260 Now, I encourage you all to take a look at Brian's work while you still can,

00:39:19.040 if only for the reason that big tech doesn't want you to.

00:39:22.540 Make a stand against censorship.

00:39:24.720 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:39:26.500 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:39:28.160 And I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:39:31.900 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:39:58.160 Bye.

Rebel News Podcast - May 09, 2019

Fighting fake news about Israel, and social media censorship (Guest： Brian of London)

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