Rebel News Podcast - September 05, 2019


Foreign press: Canada to receive 100,000 Palestinians from Lebanon and Syria

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Justin Trudeau sits down with a foreign journalist to answer tough accountability questions, and he actually answers them. I don t need to tell you the punchline here. It's a clip from Netflix's "Hassan Minhaj's" show on Canada.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. I saw some great accountability journalism the other day.
00:00:04.120 It was a, someone had a sit down with Justin Trudeau in Ottawa and tough accountability questions.
00:00:13.360 I don't need to tell you the punchline here.
00:00:15.380 Obviously, it was a foreign journalist because no Canadian would do that.
00:00:19.020 So stay tuned for that.
00:00:21.380 It's a clip, a few clips from Netflix, actually.
00:00:24.460 Hassan Minhaj, the comedian from L.A.
00:00:27.220 Um, I really wish you could see the video, though, because he does a great job of it.
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00:01:10.400 All right. Here's today's podcast.
00:01:11.860 Tonight, an Arab newspaper reports that Canada has agreed to resettle 100,000 Palestinians here.
00:01:22.700 Is that true?
00:01:24.180 It's September 4th and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.
00:01:28.400 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:32.200 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:35.820 The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:47.440 There's a problem in Canada and that is our media party is so housebroken it's no longer a guard dog or a watchdog. 0.97
00:01:55.280 It's a lap dog. It's a dog that likes tummy rubs too much.
00:01:59.280 I mean, it's always been bad. Remember this hard-hitting interview?
00:02:02.720 The one that the entire country wants to know.
00:02:06.740 What shampoo do you use?
00:02:09.800 What a disappointing answer this is going to be.
00:02:12.400 Whatever happens to be hanging around at the time.
00:02:16.920 He actually answered it. He actually wanted to tell people the answer.
00:02:21.520 Yeah. And that was even before Trudeau ponied up with his $600 million media bailout.
00:02:26.000 Now they're just full-time shampoo question askers.
00:02:28.980 They're just propagandists for Trudeau.
00:02:30.480 To get real Canadian news, it's so weird, you often need to read foreign newspapers and watch foreign TV shows for the occasion that they talk about Canada.
00:02:38.600 Everyone else in Ottawa is just too careful because if they're too aggressive with Trudeau, he'll cut them off.
00:02:44.040 I was reminded of this by, surprisingly, a left-wing Muslim comedian in the U.S. named Hassan Minhaj.
00:02:52.760 He's an environmental extremist, if that's even possible when you're a jet setter like he is with a massive staff and an energy-intensive TV show.
00:03:01.660 But he talked a good game on the environment, and he's opposed to war, or at least, as far as I can tell, opposed to wars of a certain type.
00:03:09.220 And by that, I mean any wars by America or America's allies.
00:03:13.800 Now that's the default position of most of Canada's journalists, too.
00:03:18.080 But they're too obedient to ask Trudeau about any of those issues, even from the left, I mean.
00:03:24.260 But look at this comedian the other day.
00:03:25.760 I mean, other than the Globe and Mail and their SNC-Lavalin matter,
00:03:29.600 I think the Canadian media is only too happy to forget about the scandals.
00:03:34.360 But look at this guy, Hassan Minhaj.
00:03:36.160 I'm going to play about three minutes of his recent 20-minute show on Canada.
00:03:41.200 Take a look.
00:03:42.340 So in a country like Canada, you would think Trudeau's re-election would be a landslide.
00:03:47.600 But you'd be wrong.
00:03:48.960 Well, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is dealing with a growing scandal.
00:03:52.240 The scandal that erupted inside his cabinet now threatens to drown the entire administration.
00:03:57.260 Trudeau is being accused of pressuring his former attorney general
00:04:00.000 to cut a deal with a company facing corruption charges.
00:04:03.560 Trudeau denies any wrongdoing, but his popularity is sliding.
00:04:07.060 Asked which federal party leader they believe is the most ethical,
00:04:11.020 Justin Trudeau lags behind with almost 17%.
00:04:14.380 In 2015, the RCMP, Canada's FBI, charged an engineering company called SNC-Lavalin
00:04:20.680 with corruption and fraud for allegedly bribing Libyan officials,
00:04:24.240 which included Muammar Gaddafi's son, Saadi Gaddafi,
00:04:27.780 who looks like he's about to lose a Latin Grammy.
00:04:30.100 Now, Libyan Carlos Santana allegedly spent a bunch of that money on luxury yachts, 0.99
00:04:36.840 because when you're rich and you look like that,
00:04:38.860 you either spend it on yachts or you get your kids into USC.
00:04:42.060 And after SNC got caught,
00:04:44.700 they lobbied Trudeau's office to avoid criminal prosecution.
00:04:47.460 And here's where things went sideways.
00:04:50.420 This February, Trudeau's attorney general testified
00:04:52.800 that Trudeau and his staff pressured her
00:04:55.840 to help SNC avoid criminal prosecution.
00:04:59.380 And when she didn't play ball,
00:05:01.000 Trudeau demoted her, replaced her with a man,
00:05:03.320 and eventually kicked her out of the party,
00:05:05.600 which perfectly captures why women are skeptical of male feminists. 0.99
00:05:09.820 Right? You first meet them, they're wearing a pussy hat, 1.00
00:05:12.100 and then one girl rejects them, 0.97
00:05:13.740 and they're like,
00:05:14.060 Women don't belong in Ghostbusters. 1.00
00:05:17.900 Oh, and remember when Trudeau said he didn't do anything wrong?
00:05:21.840 Well, a couple weeks ago,
00:05:23.660 Canada's ethics commissioner said,
00:05:25.420 Yeah, you did.
00:05:26.420 Canada's ethics watchdog has ruled
00:05:28.400 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
00:05:29.740 violated the Conflict of Interest Act.
00:05:31.900 Facing a damning assessment of his actions,
00:05:34.760 the prime minister today acknowledged mistakes were made.
00:05:37.940 I assume responsibility for everything that happened in my office.
00:05:41.740 But at the same time, I can't apologize for standing up for Canadian jobs.
00:05:46.860 Are you serious, JT?
00:05:48.600 You apologize all the time.
00:05:50.820 We have the receipts.
00:05:52.540 My apologies for my behavior.
00:05:55.540 I completely apologize.
00:05:58.180 I withdraw that word and apologize.
00:06:01.640 I apologize and apologize again for the comments I made.
00:06:04.640 They lacked respect.
00:06:05.360 I lost my temper for that.
00:06:07.620 I unreservedly apologize.
00:06:10.320 Come on, man. 0.87
00:06:10.840 You can't walk into parliament looking like puss in boots. 0.57
00:06:13.920 They're like, I'm sorry. 0.66
00:06:15.520 Now, back to my cunning short play.
00:06:19.060 So, officially, Trudeau got a yellow card for this scandal.
00:06:22.960 But politically, his approval rating has been cut in half
00:06:26.560 from 65% to 32%,
00:06:29.360 which is actually lower than Trump's right now.
00:06:32.620 That's the truth, isn't it?
00:06:36.840 He's a left-wing Muslim activist.
00:06:39.260 He's a comedian.
00:06:41.360 But he'll say more truths than you'll ever see on the CBC.
00:06:45.240 How weird that we need to get our news from foreign sources.
00:06:49.480 But, you know,
00:06:51.260 I'll show you one more clip from that comedy show.
00:06:55.400 Meen Hajj is Muslim, but he doesn't seem to like Saudi Arabia.
00:06:57.940 There could be various reasons for that.
00:06:59.680 One of them could be that the Saudis are becoming too pro-Western, 0.97
00:07:03.420 too pro-Trump,
00:07:04.340 and even hard to believe too pro-Israel for them.
00:07:06.440 I don't know.
00:07:06.720 That's certainly the view of more extremist elements,
00:07:09.040 like Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:07:10.460 But for whatever reason it is,
00:07:12.640 that guy, Hassan Minhaj,
00:07:14.780 actually pressed Trudeau
00:07:16.660 on the question of Canada-Saudi relations.
00:07:21.380 Take a look at this.
00:07:21.960 It's so weird to me
00:07:23.680 that this progressive, peace-loving place
00:07:26.600 has a deal to sell tanks to the Saudis,
00:07:29.600 especially when Trudeau's government
00:07:31.220 has been so vocal about their brutality.
00:07:33.680 They slammed the Saudis 1.00
00:07:34.700 for the murder of Jamal Khashoggi,
00:07:36.540 and Trudeau himself
00:07:37.640 condemned the kingdom's human rights abuses.
00:07:40.760 So I had to ask Trudeau about the arms deal,
00:07:43.600 but I wanted to be tactful.
00:07:46.100 I mean, I'm in the guy's office.
00:07:49.380 So I had to go in with another game.
00:07:52.480 Finish the sentence.
00:07:53.860 Tim Hortons is...
00:07:55.560 A Canadian institution.
00:07:58.600 Nice.
00:07:59.740 Finish the sentence.
00:08:01.080 Kawhi Leonard should...
00:08:03.360 Should be very proud
00:08:04.440 of what he accomplished
00:08:05.760 in his time in Canada.
00:08:07.800 I completely disagree.
00:08:09.180 Kawhi Leonard should...
00:08:10.700 Never return to Canada 0.99
00:08:11.600 because he is a traitor. 0.99
00:08:12.540 That's the correct answer. 0.95
00:08:14.720 You know,
00:08:15.360 people bring American sentiments
00:08:17.600 onto Canadian politeness
00:08:19.440 every now and then.
00:08:20.380 Finish the sentence.
00:08:21.440 Mm-hmm.
00:08:22.020 Canada will not sell
00:08:23.220 any more weapons
00:08:23.940 to Saudi Arabia, period.
00:08:28.460 I'm sorry, I messed that one up.
00:08:30.140 Canada will not sell
00:08:31.200 any more weapons to Saudi Arabia,
00:08:33.280 please.
00:08:33.960 Just make a statement.
00:08:34.720 That's a good statement.
00:08:36.360 That's a good statement.
00:08:37.840 You said nine months ago
00:08:39.060 you guys would be examining it,
00:08:40.400 and it takes about three months
00:08:41.560 to study for the LSAT,
00:08:42.440 so that's a pretty good
00:08:43.220 examination time.
00:08:44.340 You could announce it
00:08:45.180 right here, right now.
00:08:45.980 We're cancelling the deal.
00:08:46.960 We take our...
00:08:47.640 We got it right here,
00:08:48.160 wild on camera.
00:08:48.700 We take our legal responsibilities
00:08:50.120 and the breaking of contracts
00:08:51.460 very seriously in this country.
00:08:53.120 I'm telling you
00:08:53.600 they watch the show.
00:08:55.540 Like, they really watch the show.
00:08:56.740 I don't doubt they do.
00:08:58.300 I'm sure they're keeping
00:08:59.100 an eye on you.
00:08:59.660 Again, when was the last time
00:09:04.480 you saw anyone in the Canadian
00:09:06.780 mainstream media,
00:09:07.660 the legacy media,
00:09:08.460 the bailout media,
00:09:09.540 put a contradiction
00:09:11.220 like that to Trudeau?
00:09:13.080 I'm obviously no fan
00:09:14.320 of the Saudis.
00:09:14.980 Half of my book,
00:09:15.540 Ethical Oil,
00:09:16.660 was that the oil sands
00:09:18.320 were a tool to undermine
00:09:19.380 the corrupt and bigoted
00:09:20.800 OPEC dictatorships.
00:09:21.840 But put aside
00:09:22.700 which awful OPEC regime
00:09:24.140 is worse than the other,
00:09:26.240 Minhaj was asking Trudeau
00:09:27.360 a Canadian question,
00:09:28.420 though, wasn't he?
00:09:30.020 And I haven't seen
00:09:30.900 a Canadian journalist
00:09:31.880 do that in memory.
00:09:32.740 Have you?
00:09:33.500 Certainly not one
00:09:34.420 who could get a one-on-one
00:09:35.440 interview like that.
00:09:36.800 Trudeau hated that.
00:09:37.840 You could see it in his eyes.
00:09:40.520 I put it to you
00:09:41.220 the foreign media
00:09:41.820 is tougher on Trudeau
00:09:42.920 than our own media is
00:09:43.960 because foreign media
00:09:45.280 is not on Trudeau's payroll.
00:09:46.980 They're not sucking up to Trudeau.
00:09:48.580 They know what happens in Canada
00:09:50.900 if you ask tough questions.
00:09:52.960 The Canadian journalist,
00:09:54.280 that is.
00:09:54.700 Bob Fyfe,
00:09:55.760 the senior journalist
00:09:56.480 of the Globe and Mail,
00:09:56.980 asked a tough question.
00:09:58.020 So he and the Globe
00:09:59.060 were banned from participating
00:10:00.180 in the leaders' debates.
00:10:01.320 Those five faces I showed you
00:10:02.600 were the five approved
00:10:04.100 liberal journalists
00:10:05.060 who will moderate
00:10:05.840 the leaders' debates.
00:10:07.140 Bob Fyfe and the Globe and Mail
00:10:08.160 were banned from it.
00:10:10.460 And Trudeau has nationalized
00:10:11.620 the debates.
00:10:12.080 He's in charge now.
00:10:12.920 See, foreign media
00:10:13.960 don't care about that.
00:10:15.260 Hassan Minhaj
00:10:15.940 was never in the running
00:10:16.820 to be a journalist
00:10:18.320 moderating the debates.
00:10:19.240 He doesn't care.
00:10:19.820 So he'll report on things.
00:10:21.200 He'll ask prickly questions.
00:10:22.240 What does he care?
00:10:24.440 Anyways, Hassan reports today
00:10:25.780 in the Jerusalem Post.
00:10:26.980 The most authoritative
00:10:28.900 English language newspaper
00:10:29.920 in Israel.
00:10:31.080 Let me read the headline to you.
00:10:33.320 U.S. has agreement
00:10:34.240 with Canada
00:10:34.780 to accept
00:10:35.320 100,000 Palestinians.
00:10:37.340 Arab report.
00:10:38.520 And then if you see
00:10:39.080 underneath it says,
00:10:40.440 Canada would receive 0.76
00:10:41.280 100,000 Palestinians
00:10:42.280 from Lebanon
00:10:42.800 and Syria and Spain
00:10:44.220 would receive
00:10:44.700 16,000 Palestinians
00:10:47.600 from Lebanon
00:10:48.600 alongside similar agreements
00:10:50.120 with Belgium and France.
00:10:51.120 Now this is a report
00:10:53.760 of a report.
00:10:55.060 But I think that's how it is
00:10:56.240 in the Middle East
00:10:56.740 sometimes because
00:10:57.460 here this is the original story
00:10:59.740 and as you can see
00:11:00.500 it's in Arabic
00:11:01.640 and most people
00:11:02.500 don't speak Arabic,
00:11:03.660 especially me.
00:11:04.580 Now I run this,
00:11:05.420 I ran this page
00:11:06.080 through Google Translate
00:11:07.500 to see for myself.
00:11:09.960 And the Jerusalem Post report
00:11:11.480 seems to be
00:11:12.560 an accurate representation
00:11:13.780 of the Arabic report
00:11:15.740 if Google Translate
00:11:16.820 has anything to go by.
00:11:17.580 So here,
00:11:18.100 I'll read the Jerusalem Post
00:11:19.340 report post version now
00:11:20.960 in English.
00:11:22.380 The Lebanon-based newspaper
00:11:23.980 Al-Akbar 0.55
00:11:25.000 reported that an official source
00:11:26.920 in one of the Palestinian factions
00:11:28.220 revealed that there is
00:11:29.800 an understanding
00:11:30.560 between the United States
00:11:31.660 and Canada
00:11:32.300 for Canada to receive
00:11:34.140 100,000 Palestinians,
00:11:35.600 40,000 from Lebanon
00:11:36.860 and another 60,000 from Syria.
00:11:40.360 In addition,
00:11:41.300 there is a further understanding
00:11:42.260 with Spain
00:11:42.700 to receive 16,000 Palestinians
00:11:44.140 from Lebanon
00:11:45.000 alongside similar agreements
00:11:46.280 with Belgium and France.
00:11:47.580 The understandings
00:11:48.380 would lead to the reduction
00:11:49.080 of the cost of migration
00:11:50.060 from $12,000
00:11:52.140 to $7,000 per person.
00:11:55.320 Well, isn't that interesting?
00:11:56.280 So the theory
00:11:56.860 is in the story
00:11:59.160 that this is part
00:12:00.960 of a regional deal,
00:12:02.060 a world deal
00:12:03.040 to solve the Middle East
00:12:04.280 led by America.
00:12:06.220 And Canada,
00:12:07.440 for its part,
00:12:08.700 will take 100,000
00:12:09.460 Palestinian migrants.
00:12:10.560 Now, obviously,
00:12:11.280 they're not refugees.
00:12:12.680 There's no war
00:12:13.740 in Lebanon right now
00:12:14.900 and the Syrian civil war
00:12:16.240 is pretty much over
00:12:17.560 in 95% of the country.
00:12:21.640 Speaking of Palestinians,
00:12:22.720 there are only
00:12:23.160 a few thousand
00:12:23.780 Palestinian refugees
00:12:24.840 at all,
00:12:26.060 if you can call them that,
00:12:27.400 who were displaced
00:12:28.400 when Israel was created
00:12:29.380 in 1948
00:12:30.100 and all of its Arab neighbors
00:12:31.540 immediately declared war
00:12:32.560 on Israel
00:12:32.940 and to everyone's surprise,
00:12:34.420 Israel won that war
00:12:36.000 and survived.
00:12:36.640 There are not
00:12:37.300 100,000 Palestinian refugees
00:12:39.420 in the whole world.
00:12:40.360 Israel was born 71 years ago.
00:12:43.440 The people they're talking about
00:12:44.420 were obviously born
00:12:45.340 and raised in Lebanon.
00:12:48.060 Children of parents
00:12:49.160 who were born
00:12:49.720 and raised in Lebanon,
00:12:52.180 they're Lebanese.
00:12:53.240 Palestinian is not actually 0.93
00:12:54.600 an ethnicity
00:12:55.240 or a religion.
00:12:56.780 They're Arabs
00:12:58.040 who speak Arabic.
00:12:59.860 Now, I'm not saying
00:13:00.980 I'd want to live
00:13:02.000 in Lebanon myself.
00:13:03.380 Even though it's
00:13:04.260 capital city,
00:13:04.960 Beirut can arguably
00:13:06.180 be called pretty.
00:13:08.580 It's climate is lovely.
00:13:11.160 It's on the Mediterranean.
00:13:12.220 It's got strong
00:13:13.800 French influences
00:13:14.820 from when it was
00:13:15.820 in the colony.
00:13:16.420 These are actually
00:13:16.780 pictures of Beirut.
00:13:18.840 There's still a small
00:13:19.520 Christian presence there.
00:13:21.080 As Arab countries go, 1.00
00:13:22.220 I'd say Lebanon 0.97
00:13:23.180 is more tolerable
00:13:24.100 than Saudi Arabia,
00:13:25.220 which is oil,
00:13:26.060 sand, and Sharia law.
00:13:27.100 There are no more
00:13:27.640 refugees from Lebanon.
00:13:29.260 There's no war there,
00:13:30.420 thank God.
00:13:31.620 It's not as free
00:13:32.360 as Canada,
00:13:33.040 but it's not a hell hole
00:13:34.220 either.
00:13:34.540 But here's what
00:13:36.560 this is about.
00:13:38.420 Let me read some more
00:13:39.120 from the Jerusalem Post.
00:13:41.380 The representative
00:13:41.960 of Hamas
00:13:42.940 in Lebanon,
00:13:44.180 Ahmed Abdel Hadi,
00:13:45.820 told Al-Akbar
00:13:46.960 that part of the
00:13:48.080 deal of the century,
00:13:49.280 that's Trump's deal,
00:13:50.540 aims to resettle
00:13:51.180 between 75,000
00:13:52.180 to 100,000 Palestinians
00:13:53.300 in Lebanon
00:13:54.280 and displace the rest
00:13:55.380 to more than one country.
00:13:57.080 About 40,000 Palestinians
00:13:58.220 have left Lebanon
00:13:58.940 in the last four years
00:14:00.160 through legal immigration.
00:14:02.320 Others have taken
00:14:02.880 illegal routes
00:14:04.060 okay,
00:14:05.060 so if this report
00:14:05.880 is correct,
00:14:07.040 Donald Trump
00:14:07.520 and his son-in-law,
00:14:08.360 Jared Kushner,
00:14:08.880 they've been working
00:14:09.260 on this master plan
00:14:10.460 for peace in the Middle East.
00:14:11.420 They call it
00:14:11.780 the deal of the century
00:14:12.920 as if it's a real estate deal.
00:14:14.200 Now,
00:14:14.600 Trump does know
00:14:15.380 about deals,
00:14:16.480 but it's a bit harder
00:14:17.280 with countries,
00:14:18.680 especially countries
00:14:19.320 that don't want to deal
00:14:20.140 and don't deal honestly.
00:14:22.240 Trump's trying to do his best
00:14:23.140 to do a deal in North Korea.
00:14:24.620 He's made some symbolic progress,
00:14:26.100 but it's a long way
00:14:26.800 from being a done deal.
00:14:28.120 And of course,
00:14:28.500 China is pulling many
00:14:29.320 of the strings there
00:14:29.980 and they're in a huge trade war
00:14:31.280 with Trump right now,
00:14:31.960 so it's not going great
00:14:33.340 at the moment,
00:14:33.920 that North Korea thing.
00:14:34.840 And doing a deal
00:14:35.700 in the Middle East,
00:14:36.220 I can't think of anything
00:14:36.800 more complicated.
00:14:38.180 Again,
00:14:38.680 less Western in thinking.
00:14:40.160 Remember,
00:14:40.460 Israel had already 0.99
00:14:42.340 offered the Palestinians 0.98
00:14:43.200 everything,
00:14:44.360 all the land,
00:14:45.140 all the money,
00:14:45.800 even weapons.
00:14:46.780 Israel offered
00:14:47.380 to give the Palestinians 0.98
00:14:49.060 weapons,
00:14:49.840 seriously,
00:14:50.340 and Yasser Arafat
00:14:51.040 just rejected it
00:14:51.860 because end of the day,
00:14:54.220 he didn't want peace.
00:14:55.880 He wanted to get rid 0.99
00:14:56.660 of the Jews. 0.99
00:14:58.120 Look at the Gaza Strip.
00:14:59.060 Israel unilaterally
00:15:00.420 just left the Gaza Strip
00:15:01.640 and just gave it back
00:15:02.500 to the Palestinians
00:15:03.160 who just turned it
00:15:04.740 into an armed base camp
00:15:06.020 to shoot rockets
00:15:06.980 into the rest of Israel.
00:15:08.100 So I'm skeptical
00:15:08.820 of any deal,
00:15:09.820 even by the grand dealmaker
00:15:11.140 Trump himself.
00:15:12.080 But the main point
00:15:12.620 is this,
00:15:13.240 what do Palestinians 0.91
00:15:14.160 in Lebanon
00:15:14.680 have to do with anything?
00:15:16.200 How is that an issue
00:15:16.920 at all,
00:15:17.240 let alone an issue
00:15:17.880 for Israel
00:15:19.120 or America
00:15:19.880 or Canada?
00:15:20.740 Why would we,
00:15:22.260 why should we
00:15:22.940 take them in Canada?
00:15:23.760 They're not in jeopardy.
00:15:25.540 They have no ties
00:15:26.160 to Canada.
00:15:27.000 They have no English skills.
00:15:28.080 They have no job skills.
00:15:29.060 They have no cultural skills 1.00
00:15:30.540 to fit here. 0.98
00:15:31.360 They're Arabs
00:15:31.800 living in Arabia.
00:15:32.880 Why would we have
00:15:33.500 a mass transfer
00:15:34.320 of Palestinians
00:15:35.340 from Lebanon to Canada
00:15:36.500 just as some sort
00:15:37.740 of bargaining chip
00:15:38.780 for someone else's
00:15:39.700 chess game?
00:15:40.420 Why would Canada
00:15:41.240 have anything to do
00:15:41.980 with this at all?
00:15:43.560 I don't even get it.
00:15:44.740 Maybe it went like this.
00:15:46.100 Maybe Lebanon 0.99
00:15:46.660 insisted these Palestinians 1.00
00:15:48.180 get out
00:15:49.280 and go to Israel.
00:15:51.420 Israel obviously objected.
00:15:53.660 Maybe Trump,
00:15:54.280 the dealmaker,
00:15:54.880 said,
00:15:55.160 well,
00:15:55.460 give them to Canada.
00:15:56.180 They'll take anyone.
00:15:57.240 Look at that
00:15:57.660 Trudeau.
00:15:58.040 They'll take anyone.
00:15:59.540 Let's have Trudeau
00:16:00.340 solve our problem here.
00:16:01.640 And so it was a fake problem,
00:16:02.860 but Trump knows
00:16:03.660 Trudeau loves
00:16:04.420 Muslim immigrants,
00:16:05.580 so he had a solution 0.72
00:16:06.880 to a fake problem
00:16:07.580 that didn't cost America
00:16:08.500 or Israel a thing,
00:16:09.720 and Trudeau is just
00:16:10.580 the man to do it,
00:16:11.700 along with his
00:16:12.680 immigration minister,
00:16:13.660 Amin Hassan,
00:16:14.400 who has jacked up
00:16:15.600 immigration to more
00:16:16.280 than one million people
00:16:17.040 over the next three years.
00:16:18.780 This is insane,
00:16:20.240 this report.
00:16:20.880 Now,
00:16:21.080 I don't know
00:16:22.280 if this is true.
00:16:23.100 I believe that
00:16:23.700 the Jerusalem Post
00:16:24.560 actually reported
00:16:26.220 what this Lebanese
00:16:27.000 newspaper said,
00:16:28.260 and I believe
00:16:29.680 that the Lebanese
00:16:30.420 newspaper actually
00:16:31.520 accurately quoted
00:16:33.260 what the Palestinian
00:16:34.240 leader said
00:16:35.260 from Hamas,
00:16:37.020 it sounds like,
00:16:37.700 and that Palestinian 0.92
00:16:38.540 leader might have
00:16:39.680 even been accurately
00:16:41.240 quoting some suggestion,
00:16:42.800 some brainstorm,
00:16:43.600 some idea that's
00:16:44.980 bouncing around
00:16:45.580 in diplomatic
00:16:46.040 or political circles.
00:16:47.040 Now,
00:16:47.180 whether that moves
00:16:47.960 from the level
00:16:48.460 of gossip
00:16:48.980 and brainstorming
00:16:50.460 to a plan
00:16:51.340 is quite a different thing,
00:16:52.520 but as you saw
00:16:53.140 in the Jerusalem
00:16:53.720 Post item,
00:16:55.400 Trump is holding off
00:16:56.340 on his peace plan
00:16:57.380 details until after
00:16:58.360 the Israeli elections,
00:16:59.780 which is just two weeks
00:17:01.020 from now,
00:17:01.760 actually.
00:17:02.140 Now,
00:17:02.280 I don't know
00:17:02.740 if this is real.
00:17:04.320 I see that Anthony
00:17:05.220 Fieri says
00:17:06.040 the Canadian government
00:17:06.920 has denied it,
00:17:09.200 but I don't know
00:17:09.900 if I trust that denial,
00:17:10.920 to be honest.
00:17:11.340 First of all,
00:17:11.680 we know that Trudeau
00:17:12.320 lies to Canadians.
00:17:14.200 He's a politician,
00:17:14.920 whether it's about
00:17:15.460 SNC-Lavalin
00:17:16.440 or about
00:17:17.300 some Muslim issues. 0.79
00:17:19.020 He lied and tricked us
00:17:20.120 about Omar Khadr.
00:17:21.200 He set up
00:17:22.000 the $10.5 million
00:17:22.800 payoff to Khadr
00:17:23.760 in a secret manner,
00:17:25.300 deceiving the public
00:17:26.540 to avoid the family
00:17:27.800 of Khadr's victims
00:17:28.580 suing to get the money.
00:17:29.780 So Trudeau has tricked us 0.98
00:17:31.020 for his Muslim extremist 0.93
00:17:32.260 friends before,
00:17:33.060 in that case,
00:17:33.700 an actual terrorist.
00:17:34.600 And we're talking
00:17:35.060 about Hamas here now.
00:17:37.620 Now,
00:17:37.800 that Omar Khadr thing
00:17:38.540 was just money,
00:17:39.140 but 100,000 Muslim migrants
00:17:40.600 that Hamas chooses 0.98
00:17:42.380 to send here,
00:17:43.140 well,
00:17:43.920 who knows?
00:17:44.480 I mean,
00:17:44.660 if Donald Trump
00:17:45.140 is holding off
00:17:45.820 on the details
00:17:46.660 until after the
00:17:47.220 Israeli election,
00:17:48.460 maybe he might hold off
00:17:49.640 until after the
00:17:50.400 Canadian election, too,
00:17:51.380 because if Trump
00:17:52.280 actually wants
00:17:53.140 to dump a problem
00:17:54.620 in Trudeau's lap,
00:17:55.680 he's probably smart
00:17:56.420 enough to wait
00:17:56.840 until Trudeau's
00:17:57.420 back in office
00:17:58.060 before announcing that.
00:17:59.880 Now,
00:18:00.020 I don't know
00:18:00.380 if it's true or not.
00:18:01.500 I'm absolutely sure
00:18:02.660 that Trudeau
00:18:03.180 would approve
00:18:03.920 of the idea
00:18:04.440 if he could.
00:18:05.520 He has an Islamophilic
00:18:07.060 election strategy.
00:18:08.980 He'll literally
00:18:09.640 take anyone.
00:18:10.500 I've shown you
00:18:10.900 this video before
00:18:12.000 of him bragging
00:18:12.660 about campaigning
00:18:13.700 in any mosque he can,
00:18:15.040 including the
00:18:15.640 Asuna Wahhabi mosque
00:18:16.780 in Montreal,
00:18:17.880 an extremist mosque
00:18:19.020 that the Pentagon
00:18:20.040 says is a place
00:18:21.440 where terrorists
00:18:22.300 have been recruited
00:18:22.960 to Al-Qaeda.
00:18:24.700 They spend a lot
00:18:25.380 of time running
00:18:26.020 from the Bangladeshi
00:18:28.240 to the Pakistani
00:18:29.020 to the Maghreb
00:18:30.720 and the other
00:18:31.040 to the Asuna Wahhabi
00:18:33.940 mosque.
00:18:36.060 Is Trudeau really
00:18:37.060 going to take
00:18:37.460 100,000 Palestinians
00:18:38.820 from Lebanon
00:18:39.520 at their request
00:18:40.600 of Hamas?
00:18:42.600 I've got to tell you,
00:18:43.380 it rings true.
00:18:44.620 But so far,
00:18:45.180 we just don't know.
00:18:47.560 What we do know,
00:18:48.240 however,
00:18:48.460 is that we're very
00:18:49.380 unlikely to find out
00:18:50.540 the truth
00:18:50.980 from our own
00:18:52.600 Canadian media
00:18:53.940 first.
00:18:54.740 Maybe we'll just
00:18:56.500 have to watch
00:18:57.000 a Muslim comedian
00:18:57.780 in Los Angeles
00:18:58.740 do some real journalism
00:19:00.780 on the subject
00:19:01.400 to find out.
00:19:03.140 Stay with us for more.
00:19:04.220 Welcome back.
00:19:18.920 Well, we love LNG.
00:19:21.340 As you know,
00:19:21.680 that stands for
00:19:22.340 liquefied natural gas.
00:19:23.840 It's a way of condensing
00:19:25.280 natural gas,
00:19:26.680 which is a gas
00:19:27.460 and very voluminous,
00:19:29.120 by cooling it
00:19:30.420 dramatically
00:19:31.100 to put it
00:19:31.920 in those
00:19:32.940 bubble-shaped
00:19:34.140 ships
00:19:34.760 and send it
00:19:36.100 overseas to places
00:19:37.000 where natural gas
00:19:37.660 is very expensive,
00:19:38.640 places like Japan,
00:19:40.260 South Korea.
00:19:41.340 It's a booming
00:19:42.300 industry.
00:19:43.220 The United States
00:19:43.960 is taking advantage
00:19:44.800 of it.
00:19:45.560 And Canada,
00:19:46.400 because of our
00:19:47.280 fracking,
00:19:48.560 has natural gas
00:19:49.560 to export to.
00:19:50.580 And finally,
00:19:51.940 some LNG facilities
00:19:53.780 are being built
00:19:54.840 on Canada's
00:19:56.180 West Coast.
00:19:56.880 It's a huge
00:19:58.240 construction opportunity
00:20:00.200 in addition to
00:20:01.620 the ongoing
00:20:02.380 sale of
00:20:03.480 natural gas.
00:20:04.240 In fact,
00:20:05.080 there are
00:20:05.480 projects afoot
00:20:06.440 in B.C.
00:20:07.620 worth a staggering
00:20:08.840 $42 billion.
00:20:12.480 That would make it,
00:20:13.360 hands down,
00:20:14.660 the largest
00:20:15.500 construction project
00:20:17.420 in Canada.
00:20:18.740 And the fact that
00:20:19.440 it's private sector
00:20:20.260 money is even more
00:20:21.040 amazing.
00:20:22.140 But let me
00:20:23.060 put a fly in the
00:20:24.200 ointment.
00:20:24.520 Let me tell you
00:20:24.900 something terrifying
00:20:25.820 and terrible.
00:20:26.440 example, this
00:20:27.740 $42 billion
00:20:28.480 project will not
00:20:29.780 be manufactured
00:20:31.460 in the main
00:20:32.280 by Canadians.
00:20:35.440 This will be
00:20:36.380 built in
00:20:37.140 modular form
00:20:38.100 in China
00:20:39.800 by Chinese
00:20:41.480 workers using
00:20:42.120 Chinese steel
00:20:42.820 and shipped
00:20:43.340 to Canada
00:20:43.980 for final
00:20:46.060 assembly.
00:20:46.600 And all of
00:20:46.920 this was made
00:20:47.380 possible by a
00:20:48.160 shocking decision
00:20:49.040 by the Canadian
00:20:50.420 government.
00:20:50.760 and here to
00:20:51.260 talk about it
00:20:52.000 is our guest,
00:20:53.220 Ed Whalen,
00:20:53.960 who is the
00:20:54.520 president and
00:20:55.200 CEO of the
00:20:56.500 Canadian Institute
00:20:57.280 of Steel
00:20:57.940 Construction.
00:20:59.040 Mr. Whalen,
00:20:59.600 it's a pleasure
00:21:00.060 to meet you
00:21:00.540 and have you
00:21:01.220 on the show
00:21:01.580 today.
00:21:02.640 Thanks to me.
00:21:03.400 It's nice to be
00:21:03.980 here.
00:21:04.520 Now, I
00:21:05.300 outlined the
00:21:06.160 facts as best
00:21:07.060 as I know
00:21:07.560 them, but of
00:21:07.980 course, you're
00:21:08.300 an expert in
00:21:08.960 this field.
00:21:09.980 Can you please
00:21:10.820 correct me or
00:21:12.180 add any
00:21:12.700 information to
00:21:13.540 how I've just
00:21:14.180 described the
00:21:15.160 projects at the
00:21:17.140 Wood Fiber LNG
00:21:18.460 and the LNG 0.96
00:21:19.520 Canada
00:21:20.360 construction?
00:21:21.260 Did I get my
00:21:21.960 fact basically
00:21:22.740 correct?
00:21:23.820 Yeah, basically
00:21:24.240 you did a pretty
00:21:24.980 good job, probably
00:21:25.620 better than I
00:21:26.200 could have.
00:21:27.400 The LNG
00:21:28.080 Canada project
00:21:29.960 is valued
00:21:31.080 currently at
00:21:32.080 about $40
00:21:32.740 billion.
00:21:33.660 These types
00:21:34.420 of projects
00:21:35.040 this size
00:21:35.880 usually kind
00:21:37.040 of balloon
00:21:37.520 to about
00:21:37.980 $60 to $80
00:21:39.000 so almost
00:21:39.560 double if
00:21:40.920 you use
00:21:41.400 Australia as
00:21:42.540 an example.
00:21:43.300 The Wood Fiber
00:21:43.800 is quite a bit
00:21:44.680 less.
00:21:45.800 It's about
00:21:46.180 $2 billion.
00:21:47.380 So that's
00:21:48.620 where the $42
00:21:49.260 billion comes
00:21:49.960 from.
00:21:50.180 There's two
00:21:50.540 projects and
00:21:51.620 there's a number
00:21:52.220 of them lined
00:21:53.040 up potentially
00:21:54.840 in the future,
00:21:55.660 not only in
00:21:56.780 the BC coast
00:21:57.900 but also in
00:21:58.680 the Atlantic.
00:21:59.100 So there's a
00:21:59.660 considerable amount
00:22:00.860 of LNG
00:22:01.660 activity,
00:22:03.420 potential in
00:22:04.260 Canada.
00:22:05.900 And just to
00:22:06.720 start off,
00:22:07.140 we would love
00:22:08.120 to be part of
00:22:08.640 that.
00:22:08.860 We want the
00:22:09.300 project to go
00:22:09.860 forward, but
00:22:11.280 we as an
00:22:12.460 industry and
00:22:13.220 the construction
00:22:13.720 industry in
00:22:14.540 general would
00:22:16.560 like to see
00:22:17.320 at least a
00:22:18.860 little bit of
00:22:19.500 that activity
00:22:21.460 and construction
00:22:22.400 go to Canadians.
00:22:24.080 Well, what's so
00:22:25.040 incredible here,
00:22:25.720 and I haven't
00:22:27.080 mentioned this
00:22:27.560 part and I'm
00:22:27.940 going to rely on
00:22:28.520 your expertise
00:22:29.020 to explain this,
00:22:31.280 this Chinese 0.78
00:22:33.440 construction project,
00:22:34.960 I'm going to call
00:22:35.400 it a Chinese
00:22:35.920 construction project
00:22:36.760 even though it's
00:22:37.240 in Canada,
00:22:38.240 is against the
00:22:40.160 trade rules
00:22:41.260 because the
00:22:42.280 Canadian
00:22:42.600 International
00:22:43.120 Trade Tribunal,
00:22:44.800 which hears
00:22:45.600 cases of
00:22:46.260 dumping where
00:22:47.100 China dumps
00:22:48.880 enormous amounts
00:22:49.660 of steel below
00:22:50.560 cost, below
00:22:51.800 market prices
00:22:52.660 to drive out
00:22:53.940 Canadian
00:22:54.360 competitors.
00:22:56.200 Well, that was
00:22:56.800 challenged at this
00:22:57.720 Canadian International
00:22:59.020 Trade Tribunal
00:22:59.760 and the trade
00:23:00.500 tribunal found
00:23:01.740 against China
00:23:04.280 and said they're
00:23:04.980 doing it illegally,
00:23:06.140 they're breaking
00:23:07.020 the law,
00:23:08.060 and here's what
00:23:09.180 I can't believe,
00:23:10.160 and again I'm
00:23:10.720 relying on you
00:23:11.260 to correct me
00:23:11.840 because this is
00:23:12.400 so staggering,
00:23:13.300 I'm worried I've
00:23:13.960 gotten my facts
00:23:14.660 wrong here,
00:23:15.280 Mr. Whelan.
00:23:16.420 Is it true
00:23:17.220 that Chrystia Freeland, 0.92
00:23:18.860 our foreign
00:23:19.260 minister,
00:23:20.280 waived this
00:23:22.040 tribunal ruling
00:23:22.840 and said you're
00:23:24.260 breaking the law,
00:23:25.320 an independent
00:23:25.800 tribunal found
00:23:26.680 that, you lost
00:23:27.820 in court, but
00:23:29.120 we're letting you
00:23:29.780 do this anyways?
00:23:31.740 Is that an
00:23:32.540 accurate reflection
00:23:33.680 of what happened?
00:23:35.860 Yes,
00:23:36.200 unfortunately you
00:23:36.820 can't get any
00:23:37.320 more accurate
00:23:37.900 than that.
00:23:39.520 Why?
00:23:40.160 Why would we
00:23:40.960 do this at
00:23:41.920 the best of
00:23:42.440 times?
00:23:42.780 And by the
00:23:43.060 way, these
00:23:43.400 are not the
00:23:43.760 best of
00:23:44.120 times with
00:23:45.300 China.
00:23:45.640 They hold
00:23:46.040 two Canadian
00:23:46.740 hostages.
00:23:47.620 What's the
00:23:47.980 official rationale
00:23:48.980 of the
00:23:49.380 Canadian
00:23:49.660 government?
00:23:52.000 Well, that's
00:23:53.460 a good question
00:23:54.580 and I think
00:23:55.300 the only ones
00:23:56.700 that can
00:23:57.160 actually answer
00:23:58.040 that properly
00:23:58.740 would be the
00:23:59.480 government.
00:24:00.940 It comes
00:24:02.000 down to
00:24:02.500 cost.
00:24:02.980 the large
00:24:05.360 oil and gas
00:24:06.000 companies,
00:24:06.740 in this
00:24:06.980 particular
00:24:07.240 case, the
00:24:08.060 LNG
00:24:08.520 Canada
00:24:09.200 group, which
00:24:12.020 by the way,
00:24:12.620 just one of
00:24:13.280 the major
00:24:13.700 partners in
00:24:14.480 LNG
00:24:14.800 Canada is
00:24:16.000 PetroChina,
00:24:17.020 which is a
00:24:17.440 Chinese state
00:24:19.740 owned company,
00:24:21.200 wants to
00:24:22.740 not only
00:24:23.880 take the
00:24:25.660 work to
00:24:26.000 China, but 0.90
00:24:26.720 they want
00:24:27.160 the lowest,
00:24:28.860 lowest, lowest
00:24:30.540 price possible
00:24:31.620 to do that
00:24:32.140 so they can
00:24:32.520 put more
00:24:32.900 money in
00:24:33.280 their jeans.
00:24:34.360 So the
00:24:35.280 only way you
00:24:36.100 can do and
00:24:37.120 get the
00:24:37.740 lowest price
00:24:38.700 in the
00:24:39.080 world is
00:24:40.240 bring a
00:24:40.880 construction
00:24:41.400 project to
00:24:43.060 a country
00:24:43.660 that illegally
00:24:44.740 dumps and
00:24:45.680 subsidizes their
00:24:46.780 construction
00:24:47.240 products.
00:24:48.560 So here,
00:24:50.140 China now,
00:24:51.900 globally, is
00:24:52.740 well known as
00:24:54.220 a dumper and
00:24:54.920 subsidizer.
00:24:56.720 Other countries
00:24:58.580 and construction
00:25:00.060 industries in
00:25:01.060 the rest of
00:25:01.440 the world
00:25:01.880 aren't allowed
00:25:02.520 to do that
00:25:03.080 by WTO
00:25:03.980 rules.
00:25:04.580 Otherwise, we
00:25:05.000 have trade
00:25:05.380 cases brought
00:25:05.980 against us.
00:25:07.140 And in our
00:25:07.520 case, in the
00:25:08.740 steel fabrication
00:25:09.600 case, we
00:25:10.980 brought this
00:25:12.080 trade case
00:25:13.060 forward because
00:25:14.340 of exactly
00:25:15.360 these types of
00:25:16.160 projects, not
00:25:17.220 these small
00:25:17.880 little projects.
00:25:18.660 We wanted to
00:25:19.960 protect our
00:25:21.260 industry on
00:25:22.520 large infrastructure,
00:25:24.360 oil and gas
00:25:25.060 mining type
00:25:25.780 projects, and
00:25:27.120 wanted to have
00:25:28.040 a fair level
00:25:29.560 playing field in
00:25:31.080 order to get
00:25:32.360 some of these
00:25:32.800 projects.
00:25:33.360 Now, we
00:25:33.660 realize if we're
00:25:34.620 not globally
00:25:35.460 competitive, we
00:25:36.780 don't deserve to
00:25:37.320 get the job.
00:25:38.160 But at least
00:25:38.880 everyone should
00:25:39.760 be bidding
00:25:40.360 fairly.
00:25:41.620 And our trade
00:25:42.760 case and the
00:25:43.520 duties would be
00:25:44.660 only bringing the
00:25:45.640 Chinese price to
00:25:46.880 where it should
00:25:47.680 have been fairly.
00:25:49.040 And the
00:25:49.740 government of
00:25:50.240 Canada decided
00:25:51.160 to wait it.
00:25:52.340 I just don't
00:25:53.280 understand that.
00:25:54.220 it's not like
00:25:56.300 China is doing 1.00
00:25:57.480 us any favors
00:25:58.180 right now.
00:25:58.640 They've banned
00:25:59.140 our agricultural
00:25:59.840 exports, they've
00:26:00.580 banned our 1.00
00:26:01.340 canola, they've
00:26:02.000 banned various
00:26:02.920 other crops, let
00:26:05.360 alone their
00:26:06.800 illegal detention
00:26:08.080 of two Canadians.
00:26:08.960 I just don't
00:26:10.380 understand it.
00:26:11.260 But I really
00:26:11.840 don't get it on
00:26:12.420 the jobs front
00:26:13.160 either.
00:26:13.700 Because the
00:26:14.340 whole point of
00:26:14.880 these LNG 0.94
00:26:15.360 facilities is to
00:26:17.260 develop our
00:26:17.980 economy, not
00:26:18.680 China's economy.
00:26:19.920 And I really
00:26:20.400 don't care about
00:26:20.960 PetroChina.
00:26:21.520 They're a
00:26:21.900 state-run
00:26:22.840 enterprise from
00:26:23.660 a communist
00:26:24.420 dictatorship.
00:26:25.120 I have no
00:26:25.460 affection for
00:26:26.060 them.
00:26:26.720 I want to see
00:26:27.440 jobs in
00:26:28.300 Canada, whether
00:26:30.060 that's in
00:26:30.580 B.C. or in
00:26:31.760 I don't even
00:26:32.360 know if the
00:26:32.760 steel would
00:26:33.120 come from
00:26:33.500 Hamilton.
00:26:33.880 I don't know
00:26:34.160 where that
00:26:34.440 steel would
00:26:35.520 come from.
00:26:36.080 Tell me,
00:26:36.840 Mr. Whelan,
00:26:37.960 where would
00:26:39.280 the steel come
00:26:39.820 from if it
00:26:40.280 wouldn't be
00:26:40.700 shipped in
00:26:41.160 from China?
00:26:42.220 Would it be
00:26:42.680 in B.C.?
00:26:43.340 I know that
00:26:43.720 there's some
00:26:44.040 steel makers in
00:26:45.060 Saskatchewan.
00:26:46.740 I just don't
00:26:47.600 know the market
00:26:48.140 that well.
00:26:48.880 Who's the 0.80
00:26:49.360 loser under
00:26:50.260 this deal? 0.98
00:26:50.700 What's the
00:26:51.500 communities?
00:26:52.920 Right.
00:26:53.700 And just as a
00:26:55.120 clarification, it's
00:26:55.980 important for your
00:26:56.880 audience to know
00:26:57.580 that we have the
00:26:58.440 steel mills that
00:26:59.140 would supply these
00:27:00.240 particular projects.
00:27:02.260 And our industry
00:27:03.860 is the layer
00:27:04.960 down, the ones
00:27:05.680 that take the
00:27:06.360 raw steel,
00:27:07.440 fabricate it into
00:27:08.480 certain pieces and
00:27:09.400 columns and beams
00:27:10.460 in order to build
00:27:11.960 whatever the
00:27:12.660 structure that is
00:27:13.400 needed to be
00:27:13.840 built.
00:27:14.520 And in the
00:27:15.240 industrial space,
00:27:16.320 we have industrial
00:27:17.400 fabricators right
00:27:18.460 across Canada.
00:27:19.460 And if you just
00:27:20.460 look at some of
00:27:21.200 the projects that
00:27:21.960 were going in
00:27:22.620 in Alberta, for
00:27:24.080 example, in
00:27:24.800 Fort McMurray,
00:27:26.280 there was steel
00:27:27.680 fabricated right
00:27:28.940 across Canada by
00:27:30.860 a host, a whole
00:27:31.860 number of steel
00:27:32.780 fabricators for
00:27:34.600 the projects over
00:27:35.460 the last 20,
00:27:36.440 25 years. 0.70
00:27:37.580 So the losers
00:27:38.840 here are all of 0.92
00:27:40.180 the steel
00:27:40.580 fabricators right
00:27:41.760 across Canada that
00:27:43.520 could have supplied
00:27:45.420 steel or at least
00:27:46.520 could have
00:27:46.980 potentially bid on
00:27:48.060 these projects.
00:27:49.260 And now, in
00:27:50.100 this particular
00:27:50.600 case, they're not
00:27:51.640 even being asked
00:27:52.620 to bid.
00:27:53.460 And one of the
00:27:53.940 things that we're
00:27:55.560 tending to lose
00:27:56.740 out of this
00:27:57.220 conversation is
00:27:58.940 that because a
00:28:00.440 module is not
00:28:01.260 only the steel
00:28:02.040 bones and the
00:28:02.840 frame that are
00:28:03.700 made out of the
00:28:04.540 products that our
00:28:05.620 industry makes,
00:28:07.080 but everything in.
00:28:09.100 So a module
00:28:09.740 contains not only
00:28:10.900 the steel structure,
00:28:12.440 but it contains the
00:28:13.760 piping, the
00:28:14.800 tanks, the
00:28:15.940 electrical, the
00:28:16.820 plumbing, all the
00:28:18.700 trades that would
00:28:20.020 build a facility
00:28:22.160 is all those
00:28:24.220 people that used
00:28:25.360 to be potentially
00:28:26.620 across Canada used
00:28:28.020 to fly to
00:28:29.140 Alberta to do a 0.82
00:28:30.220 major project.
00:28:31.300 They're now going
00:28:31.920 to be sitting at
00:28:32.620 home watching the
00:28:33.440 Chinese do it all. 0.99
00:28:34.840 And this is what
00:28:35.600 the technology and
00:28:37.500 the mode of
00:28:38.580 construction, modular
00:28:39.740 type construction
00:28:40.720 is now going to be
00:28:42.520 facing Canada and
00:28:43.640 in the rest of the
00:28:44.400 world, is that it
00:28:45.780 allows projects to
00:28:48.160 be totally offshore.
00:28:49.980 You know, I know
00:28:51.040 this is how China
00:28:51.860 operates in
00:28:53.440 jurisdictions like
00:28:54.420 Africa.
00:28:55.100 They're really
00:28:55.780 colonizing Africa 0.78
00:28:57.080 industrially,
00:28:58.820 financially, but
00:28:59.900 also industrially.
00:29:01.280 And I get it.
00:29:02.740 Africa is
00:29:03.480 diplomatically and
00:29:04.440 politically and
00:29:05.000 economically weak.
00:29:06.200 I guess they have to
00:29:06.980 take any terms
00:29:07.900 they're offered.
00:29:09.540 But for Canada to
00:29:11.500 roll over and say,
00:29:12.420 yeah, we'll accept
00:29:13.380 basically a made
00:29:14.940 in China economic
00:29:16.340 project, like a
00:29:17.720 made in China
00:29:18.280 mega project, and
00:29:20.160 to accept it that
00:29:20.940 it's against our
00:29:21.700 law and accept it
00:29:22.780 anyways, I find
00:29:23.940 that very hard to
00:29:25.780 fathom.
00:29:28.080 I want to ask who
00:29:29.860 your allies are,
00:29:31.380 because I really
00:29:32.340 haven't seen a lot
00:29:33.260 of voices on this.
00:29:35.200 I should tell you
00:29:36.180 that I was in
00:29:36.760 Ottawa a few weeks
00:29:37.540 ago when Secretary
00:29:38.800 of State Mike
00:29:39.460 Pompeo was visiting
00:29:40.620 with Chrystia Freeland.
00:29:41.480 And I was with
00:29:43.260 other journalists
00:29:43.820 and I mentioned
00:29:44.340 this issue, not a
00:29:45.120 single one of the
00:29:45.720 Ottawa Press Gallery
00:29:46.600 had even heard of
00:29:48.200 this issue.
00:29:49.260 Now, I talked to
00:29:50.860 them about it and
00:29:51.360 eventually that was
00:29:52.100 the question put to
00:29:52.980 Freeland, and she
00:29:53.960 sort of waved it
00:29:54.680 off.
00:29:54.920 I saw Trudeau being
00:29:56.580 asked the same
00:29:57.180 question the other
00:29:58.300 day.
00:29:58.540 He waved it off.
00:29:59.180 Here's a quick clip
00:30:00.460 of that.
00:30:01.020 He answered by
00:30:01.660 talking about the
00:30:02.880 big bad United
00:30:03.820 States.
00:30:04.260 He didn't have a
00:30:04.680 word to say about
00:30:05.780 China.
00:30:06.360 Here, take a look
00:30:06.880 at that.
00:30:07.240 U.S. concerns about
00:30:08.900 Chinese steel being
00:30:09.860 dumped in Canada.
00:30:11.180 Has Canada received
00:30:12.300 clearance to use
00:30:13.500 imported Asian steel
00:30:15.100 for these LNG
00:30:15.900 projects?
00:30:16.600 And why not use
00:30:17.960 domestic products
00:30:18.860 instead of importing
00:30:19.740 foreign steel
00:30:20.320 without duties?
00:30:21.340 We have been
00:30:22.340 steadfast supporters
00:30:23.980 of the Canadian
00:30:25.360 steel and aluminum
00:30:26.440 industries.
00:30:27.300 We knew when the
00:30:28.520 Americans brought in 1.00
00:30:29.760 unfair 232 tariffs
00:30:31.540 on steel and aluminum
00:30:33.020 that we had to stand
00:30:34.800 strong, and that's
00:30:35.460 why we brought in
00:30:36.660 dollar-for-dollar
00:30:38.360 countermeasures that
00:30:39.440 ended up being
00:30:40.400 effective, and we got
00:30:42.120 the Americans to lift 0.97
00:30:43.360 their punitive tariffs
00:30:45.480 on Canadian aluminum
00:30:47.700 and steel.
00:30:49.040 We continue to support
00:30:50.800 our industry, and we
00:30:51.580 will always continue to
00:30:52.680 support our industry.
00:30:54.060 We're working with the
00:30:55.560 Americans to prevent 1.00
00:30:57.140 transshipment as well,
00:30:59.720 and we will always look
00:31:01.300 to use Canadian steel
00:31:02.540 wherever possible in big
00:31:04.560 projects like these.
00:31:06.100 Mr. Whelan, I don't
00:31:06.940 think, by the way,
00:31:07.720 that's the identical
00:31:08.320 answer that Christy
00:31:09.720 Freeland gave with
00:31:10.740 Mike Pompeo.
00:31:11.960 They're so on guard
00:31:13.340 against Donald Trump
00:31:14.360 and his trade battles,
00:31:17.820 they haven't said a
00:31:19.360 word about China.
00:31:21.560 I just, where are
00:31:23.400 your friends?
00:31:24.160 Where are your
00:31:24.840 allies?
00:31:25.400 Are the unions
00:31:26.760 properly engaged here?
00:31:28.620 Are local MPs
00:31:30.080 engaged?
00:31:30.620 Are mayors engaged?
00:31:32.320 I was shocked that the
00:31:33.740 Ottawa Press Gallery
00:31:34.520 really didn't even hear
00:31:35.880 about this.
00:31:39.280 We're kind of somewhat
00:31:40.560 surprised as well.
00:31:42.560 The press hasn't picked
00:31:44.360 this up.
00:31:45.320 Not quite sure why.
00:31:47.480 You're in the press, and
00:31:49.100 you probably know better
00:31:50.360 than I would.
00:31:51.260 This is a big, big story.
00:31:53.940 This is tens of thousands
00:31:56.300 of jobs.
00:31:57.320 I'm not sure whether
00:31:58.160 everyone's a little bit
00:31:58.900 lethargic over the last year
00:32:00.800 about hearing about steel
00:32:02.160 and here we go again.
00:32:04.900 But what the press
00:32:07.320 and what Canadians
00:32:08.260 don't appreciate
00:32:09.460 is that the past
00:32:13.860 of how we used to do
00:32:14.960 construction in Canada
00:32:16.300 is now gone.
00:32:18.300 We used to talk about
00:32:19.540 even a couple of years ago,
00:32:21.160 even maybe as early
00:32:22.020 as last year,
00:32:23.060 about having a trade
00:32:24.700 shortage.
00:32:25.140 I would say we won't
00:32:28.060 have a trade shortage
00:32:28.880 anymore because we
00:32:29.700 will not be constructing
00:32:31.500 buildings and structures
00:32:34.380 and heavy industrial
00:32:35.340 facilities here in Canada
00:32:37.800 anymore.
00:32:38.500 We're seeing this technology
00:32:40.220 being brought down
00:32:41.700 from large industrial
00:32:44.460 even into commercial
00:32:45.580 projects.
00:32:46.540 And it's not just steel
00:32:48.020 where it's modular type
00:32:49.180 construction.
00:32:50.000 It's even wood.
00:32:51.380 So the wood industry
00:32:52.780 should be afraid
00:32:53.660 if you just have to look
00:32:55.240 at the sidewalk labs
00:32:56.500 down in downtown Toronto
00:32:58.100 and Google
00:32:59.300 or sidewalk labs
00:33:00.440 announced that they
00:33:01.000 wanted to do all
00:33:01.900 of their construction
00:33:02.840 and modular type
00:33:03.720 construction.
00:33:04.520 Well, there's no reason
00:33:05.880 other than cost
00:33:07.740 why you'd want
00:33:08.720 to go modular.
00:33:10.160 The ultimate reason
00:33:11.460 modular construction
00:33:12.280 is used
00:33:13.240 is for cost
00:33:14.500 and it's going to
00:33:15.460 pretty well
00:33:16.800 bring most of our
00:33:17.780 construction offshore.
00:33:19.320 So our trades
00:33:20.180 are going to be sitting
00:33:20.900 at home
00:33:21.460 in the LNG case
00:33:23.200 right across Canada
00:33:24.520 are trades
00:33:25.220 that used to work
00:33:26.060 in Alberta
00:33:27.000 which are quite mobile
00:33:28.360 and ready to go
00:33:29.280 wherever these large
00:33:30.520 infrastructure projects
00:33:31.460 are.
00:33:31.980 They're going to be
00:33:32.580 sitting at home
00:33:33.140 watching TV
00:33:33.940 while the Chinese 1.00
00:33:35.520 take this type
00:33:37.140 of work away from us.
00:33:38.980 And I just don't know
00:33:39.880 if the liberals
00:33:41.680 are intending
00:33:42.340 to support
00:33:43.420 the middle class
00:33:44.460 I would have thought
00:33:46.000 I would have thought
00:33:47.940 that
00:33:48.680 they would have
00:33:50.600 done everything
00:33:51.360 in their power
00:33:52.380 to make sure
00:33:53.340 that some of this
00:33:54.360 work would have
00:33:55.420 stayed in Canada.
00:33:56.780 Some of it.
00:33:58.160 Yeah.
00:33:58.820 But not only
00:33:59.900 did they say
00:34:00.940 it doesn't matter
00:34:01.800 we're not going
00:34:02.480 to do anything
00:34:03.340 to keep any
00:34:04.080 of these modules
00:34:04.840 in Canada
00:34:05.560 not only that
00:34:06.420 they actually
00:34:07.240 allow them
00:34:08.200 to have a
00:34:09.040 remission on the duties.
00:34:10.780 So it's like
00:34:11.380 a double kick.
00:34:12.440 Well that's
00:34:12.880 the crazy thing
00:34:13.940 is it's not like
00:34:14.680 they were taking
00:34:15.220 a political stance
00:34:16.060 the Canadian
00:34:17.120 International Trade
00:34:18.040 Tribunal
00:34:18.500 made a ruling
00:34:19.740 and the government
00:34:22.020 just said
00:34:22.320 oh you don't have
00:34:22.720 to follow that.
00:34:24.000 I mean
00:34:24.200 I don't even get it
00:34:25.780 at least SNC
00:34:26.680 Lavalin
00:34:27.100 when they were
00:34:27.960 letting them
00:34:28.480 off the hook
00:34:29.120 they claimed
00:34:30.260 it was for
00:34:30.740 Canadian jobs
00:34:31.580 I'm sure
00:34:32.100 that there would
00:34:32.880 be more than
00:34:33.320 8500 jobs
00:34:34.440 involved in
00:34:34.940 building a
00:34:35.320 $42 billion
00:34:36.020 project.
00:34:37.920 I just have to say
00:34:38.880 we talk about
00:34:39.580 Steal a Fair
00:34:40.120 Bit on this show
00:34:40.900 and we
00:34:41.980 we talk about
00:34:43.440 how Trump
00:34:43.900 has done
00:34:44.320 a lot of
00:34:45.280 things to
00:34:45.760 bring steel
00:34:46.440 back in
00:34:47.180 America
00:34:47.720 I really feel
00:34:49.620 I'm living
00:34:50.040 in opposite
00:34:50.780 world
00:34:51.380 and it
00:34:52.560 would be
00:34:53.720 one thing
00:34:54.200 if the trade
00:34:54.800 bully
00:34:55.140 so to speak
00:34:55.780 were Trump
00:34:56.240 trying to
00:34:56.660 get steel
00:34:57.320 jobs
00:34:57.760 away from
00:34:58.300 us
00:34:58.600 and
00:34:59.980 who knows
00:35:01.240 maybe we
00:35:01.700 couldn't
00:35:02.020 fight against
00:35:02.660 Trump
00:35:03.020 and America
00:35:03.660 but for
00:35:04.060 God's
00:35:04.420 sakes
00:35:04.640 we're not
00:35:05.400 even willing
00:35:05.760 to lift
00:35:06.080 a finger
00:35:06.480 against
00:35:06.880 China
00:35:07.380 I'm just
00:35:09.120 perplexed
00:35:09.940 let me
00:35:10.200 ask you
00:35:11.020 is there
00:35:11.640 any chance
00:35:12.460 is there
00:35:12.900 any
00:35:13.200 legal
00:35:14.260 or political
00:35:15.000 way to
00:35:15.500 undo this
00:35:16.180 what does
00:35:17.300 the provincial
00:35:18.000 government
00:35:18.420 say
00:35:18.820 surely the
00:35:19.520 province of
00:35:20.040 BC
00:35:20.360 which is
00:35:21.620 allegedly
00:35:22.200 a workers
00:35:23.160 party
00:35:23.500 the NDP
00:35:24.000 surely they
00:35:24.920 believe in
00:35:26.960 local jobs
00:35:27.660 is there
00:35:28.680 any word
00:35:29.160 from
00:35:29.540 Premier
00:35:30.000 Horgan
00:35:30.360 we
00:35:32.020 haven't
00:35:32.520 heard
00:35:32.900 boo
00:35:33.400 from any
00:35:35.320 of the
00:35:35.580 provincial
00:35:35.920 governments
00:35:36.540 and again
00:35:38.240 as you
00:35:38.920 alluded to
00:35:39.560 earlier
00:35:40.040 we're not
00:35:41.560 quite sure
00:35:42.440 what all
00:35:44.840 the various
00:35:45.260 governments
00:35:45.700 are thinking
00:35:46.620 in previous
00:35:47.820 governments
00:35:48.240 in BC
00:35:48.760 they were
00:35:49.620 pro-trade
00:35:50.820 and if
00:35:51.740 they could
00:35:52.440 offshore
00:35:53.140 to
00:35:53.780 China
00:35:54.780 for a
00:35:55.200 dollar
00:35:55.440 cheaper
00:35:55.920 previous
00:35:57.380 governments
00:35:57.720 in BC
00:35:58.060 that's what
00:35:58.520 they would
00:35:58.740 do
00:35:59.020 in this
00:35:59.720 particular
00:36:00.700 case
00:36:01.240 I don't
00:36:02.320 know
00:36:02.520 if we're
00:36:02.880 seeing
00:36:03.240 any
00:36:03.540 difference
00:36:04.200 in opinion
00:36:05.680 there
00:36:06.000 I think
00:36:06.940 many of the
00:36:07.660 governments
00:36:07.980 have been
00:36:08.540 bamboozled
00:36:09.440 to think
00:36:10.000 that these
00:36:11.260 particular
00:36:12.040 projects
00:36:12.600 are too
00:36:13.080 complex
00:36:13.660 too big
00:36:14.440 and Canada
00:36:16.300 doesn't have
00:36:16.780 the expertise
00:36:17.340 they have
00:36:18.960 yet
00:36:19.480 to show
00:36:20.720 me or
00:36:21.100 tell me
00:36:21.640 what
00:36:22.000 Canadian
00:36:22.700 labour
00:36:23.320 what Canadian
00:36:24.160 construction
00:36:24.680 companies
00:36:25.260 and what
00:36:26.120 Canadian
00:36:26.500 trades
00:36:26.980 can't do
00:36:27.740 and again
00:36:29.820 the steel
00:36:31.220 industry
00:36:31.620 in Canada
00:36:32.200 isn't looking
00:36:32.740 for the
00:36:33.280 whole
00:36:34.020 project
00:36:34.700 but certainly
00:36:36.000 a fair
00:36:36.480 chance
00:36:36.920 what I'm
00:36:38.120 hearing
00:36:38.540 from
00:36:39.240 the government
00:36:40.920 and from
00:36:41.680 the LNG
00:36:42.760 world
00:36:43.160 is
00:36:43.740 it's
00:36:44.940 okay
00:36:45.340 and the
00:36:45.680 only way
00:36:46.040 we can
00:36:46.340 do
00:36:46.480 large
00:36:46.800 infrastructure
00:36:47.260 projects
00:36:47.840 is to
00:36:48.440 go to
00:36:48.880 countries
00:36:49.320 that
00:36:49.640 allow
00:36:50.340 dumping
00:36:50.680 and
00:36:50.840 subsidize
00:36:51.260 because
00:36:51.500 we
00:36:51.720 have
00:36:51.980 to
00:36:52.080 get
00:36:52.200 the
00:36:52.340 lowest
00:36:52.560 price
00:36:52.960 and
00:36:53.480 by
00:36:53.860 goodness
00:36:54.340 some
00:36:55.440 of
00:36:55.600 our
00:36:55.780 other
00:36:56.260 energy
00:36:56.740 policies
00:36:57.360 and
00:36:57.540 other
00:36:57.860 energy
00:36:58.360 files
00:37:00.100 are
00:37:00.440 doing
00:37:00.860 really
00:37:01.200 poorly
00:37:01.660 so let's
00:37:02.560 just
00:37:02.740 make
00:37:02.960 sure
00:37:03.180 this
00:37:03.380 one
00:37:03.560 goes
00:37:03.780 ahead
00:37:04.220 you
00:37:05.260 mentioned
00:37:06.060 S&C
00:37:06.580 Laval
00:37:06.880 I mean
00:37:07.140 you
00:37:07.500 met
00:37:07.720 88
00:37:08.440 thousand
00:37:09.020 jobs
00:37:09.320 I mean
00:37:09.500 this
00:37:09.700 is
00:37:09.900 tens
00:37:10.540 of
00:37:10.780 thousands
00:37:11.080 of
00:37:11.360 jobs
00:37:11.760 and
00:37:12.360 many
00:37:12.600 many
00:37:12.820 companies
00:37:13.320 and
00:37:14.020 this
00:37:14.220 is
00:37:14.340 going
00:37:14.440 to
00:37:14.480 have
00:37:14.620 an
00:37:14.720 immediate
00:37:14.940 impact
00:37:15.500 last
00:37:16.400 week
00:37:16.840 on
00:37:18.080 Thursday
00:37:18.720 I believe
00:37:19.140 it was
00:37:19.660 we had
00:37:20.120 one of
00:37:20.560 our
00:37:20.740 member
00:37:21.060 companies
00:37:21.620 the
00:37:21.960 largest
00:37:22.580 one of
00:37:22.900 the
00:37:23.020 largest
00:37:23.360 independent
00:37:24.080 steel
00:37:25.400 industrial
00:37:25.940 fabricators
00:37:26.780 in western
00:37:27.300 Canada
00:37:27.780 just announced
00:37:28.900 that they
00:37:29.240 were closing
00:37:29.640 two plants
00:37:30.360 so if
00:37:31.240 people
00:37:31.680 believe
00:37:32.280 that
00:37:33.500 these
00:37:33.800 kind
00:37:34.160 of
00:37:34.420 decisions
00:37:35.460 aren't
00:37:36.000 going to
00:37:36.260 have a
00:37:36.580 negative
00:37:36.840 impact
00:37:37.420 I think
00:37:38.360 again
00:37:38.780 there is
00:37:39.640 no
00:37:40.000 reason
00:37:40.540 to have
00:37:41.040 the
00:37:41.200 capacity
00:37:41.840 in our
00:37:42.420 industry
00:37:42.960 to do
00:37:43.800 large
00:37:44.180 projects
00:37:44.860 if
00:37:45.460 Canada
00:37:45.740 is
00:37:45.860 going
00:37:45.980 to
00:37:46.060 give
00:37:46.200 them
00:37:46.300 away
00:37:46.660 well
00:37:47.520 I
00:37:47.600 imagine
00:37:47.780 the
00:37:47.920 whole
00:37:48.080 point
00:37:48.300 of
00:37:48.420 dumping
00:37:48.720 is
00:37:49.140 flood
00:37:50.020 the
00:37:50.360 market
00:37:50.580 with
00:37:50.780 cheap
00:37:51.000 steel
00:37:51.320 drive
00:37:51.700 all the
00:37:52.100 local
00:37:52.480 competitors
00:37:53.000 out
00:37:53.340 and then
00:37:53.880 you've
00:37:54.020 got a
00:37:54.240 monopoly
00:37:54.540 we
00:37:55.020 haven't
00:37:55.320 even
00:37:55.480 talked
00:37:55.800 about
00:37:55.980 the
00:37:56.140 quality
00:37:56.520 issue
00:37:56.900 it's
00:37:57.080 been
00:37:57.220 a
00:37:57.380 decade
00:37:57.660 since
00:37:57.960 I've
00:37:58.140 been
00:37:58.220 in
00:37:58.420 Shanghai
00:37:58.780 that's
00:37:59.700 a
00:37:59.820 city
00:38:00.020 that's
00:38:00.300 sprouted
00:38:00.680 up
00:38:00.940 almost
00:38:01.680 overnight
00:38:02.140 even
00:38:03.020 when I
00:38:03.380 was
00:38:03.520 in
00:38:03.640 the
00:38:03.780 city
00:38:04.040 there
00:38:04.640 were
00:38:04.760 newspaper
00:38:05.120 articles
00:38:05.900 back
00:38:06.160 then
00:38:06.460 about
00:38:07.100 how
00:38:07.380 the
00:38:07.620 quality
00:38:08.200 of
00:38:08.440 steel
00:38:08.780 was
00:38:09.020 so
00:38:09.260 cheap
00:38:09.680 that
00:38:10.360 there
00:38:10.480 was
00:38:10.600 so
00:38:10.780 much
00:38:10.960 trickery
00:38:11.700 and
00:38:12.120 fraud
00:38:13.420 that
00:38:13.720 steel
00:38:14.280 was
00:38:15.640 so
00:38:15.920 low
00:38:16.220 quality
00:38:16.700 because
00:38:17.060 everyone
00:38:17.360 was
00:38:17.600 trying
00:38:17.860 to
00:38:18.380 con
00:38:18.860 someone
00:38:19.360 out
00:38:19.540 of
00:38:19.620 a few
00:38:19.880 extra
00:38:20.180 bucks
00:38:20.400 by
00:38:20.560 putting
00:38:20.780 in
00:38:20.940 lower
00:38:21.200 grade
00:38:21.500 steel
00:38:21.880 they
00:38:22.560 were
00:38:22.740 worried
00:38:23.300 that
00:38:23.480 a
00:38:23.620 quarter
00:38:23.940 of
00:38:24.360 the
00:38:24.600 skyscrapers
00:38:25.440 in
00:38:25.640 Shanghai
00:38:26.020 this
00:38:26.380 is
00:38:26.480 a
00:38:26.600 decade
00:38:26.860 ago
00:38:27.260 were
00:38:27.900 structurally
00:38:28.640 questionable
00:38:29.320 because
00:38:30.160 of
00:38:30.440 fake
00:38:30.900 steel 0.99
00:38:31.320 junk 0.67
00:38:32.300 steel
00:38:32.820 counterfeit
00:38:33.680 steel
00:38:33.960 and
00:38:34.080 anyone
00:38:34.340 who's
00:38:34.620 ever
00:38:34.820 seen
00:38:36.120 where all
00:38:36.360 the
00:38:36.480 counterfeit
00:38:37.000 brands
00:38:37.520 in the
00:38:37.780 world
00:38:37.920 come
00:38:38.140 from
00:38:38.280 it's
00:38:38.420 from
00:38:38.560 China
00:38:38.920 the
00:38:39.560 fact
00:38:39.800 that
00:38:39.940 we
00:38:40.100 would
00:38:40.320 be
00:38:40.500 importing
00:38:41.020 steel
00:38:41.940 of
00:38:42.120 questionable
00:38:42.580 provenance
00:38:43.320 and
00:38:43.720 this
00:38:43.860 is
00:38:44.160 not
00:38:44.300 a
00:38:44.400 conspiracy
00:38:44.800 theory
00:38:45.260 or
00:38:45.460 a
00:38:47.000 defamation
00:38:48.040 of
00:38:48.300 China
00:38:48.440 this
00:38:48.620 is
00:38:48.780 how
00:38:49.380 they
00:38:51.880 society
00:38:52.420 I can't
00:38:52.960 believe
00:38:53.240 we're
00:38:53.440 bringing
00:38:53.720 in
00:38:53.980 Chinese
00:38:54.360 steel
00:38:54.780 of
00:38:56.400 questionable
00:38:56.820 quality
00:38:57.300 for
00:38:57.520 something
00:38:57.860 that's
00:38:58.120 important
00:38:58.480 as
00:38:58.780 an
00:38:59.140 LNG
00:38:59.520 plant
00:39:00.040 you've
00:39:00.860 really
00:39:01.040 got me
00:39:01.380 revved
00:39:01.660 up
00:39:01.840 here
00:39:02.080 and
00:39:02.680 I'm
00:39:02.820 going
00:39:02.920 to
00:39:03.000 look
00:39:03.160 into
00:39:03.340 this
00:39:03.560 more
00:39:03.920 I
00:39:04.580 think
00:39:04.720 we've
00:39:04.880 got
00:39:05.000 to
00:39:05.100 ring
00:39:05.260 the
00:39:05.400 alarm
00:39:05.740 about
00:39:06.100 this
00:39:06.440 I
00:39:06.800 find
00:39:07.000 it
00:39:07.120 very
00:39:07.300 odd
00:39:07.640 that
00:39:07.820 we
00:39:08.100 are
00:39:08.400 I
00:39:09.000 mean
00:39:09.060 we
00:39:09.200 really
00:39:09.420 don't
00:39:10.100 come
00:39:10.400 from
00:39:10.620 that
00:39:10.860 world
00:39:11.240 but
00:39:11.440 the
00:39:11.580 more
00:39:11.760 I
00:39:11.920 see
00:39:12.240 about
00:39:12.540 this
00:39:12.740 the
00:39:12.860 more
00:39:13.020 I'm
00:39:21.880 who
00:39:22.100 should
00:39:22.320 we
00:39:22.480 talk
00:39:22.920 to
00:39:23.100 who
00:39:24.120 are
00:39:24.400 potential
00:39:25.060 allies
00:39:25.640 what
00:39:25.940 are
00:39:26.140 questions
00:39:26.740 we
00:39:26.940 should
00:39:27.100 ask
00:39:27.320 to
00:39:27.460 people
00:39:27.660 just
00:39:27.860 give
00:39:28.040 me
00:39:28.160 a
00:39:28.320 hand
00:39:29.900 here
00:39:30.100 because
00:39:30.300 I'm
00:39:30.500 learning
00:39:30.780 as
00:39:30.980 I'm
00:39:31.120 going
00:39:31.480 I
00:39:33.120 would
00:39:33.740 say
00:39:34.080 that
00:39:34.540 for
00:39:36.000 one
00:39:36.600 if
00:39:36.900 any
00:39:37.720 of
00:39:37.900 your
00:39:38.140 listeners
00:39:38.800 are
00:39:39.100 in
00:39:39.180 the
00:39:39.300 construction
00:39:39.720 industry
00:39:40.360 and
00:39:41.620 especially
00:39:42.020 running
00:39:42.380 businesses
00:39:42.800 or
00:39:43.140 employees
00:39:43.800 we
00:39:44.400 should
00:39:45.520 be
00:39:45.680 very
00:39:46.060 very
00:39:46.280 concerned
00:39:46.740 this
00:39:47.280 is
00:39:47.680 very
00:39:48.120 troubling
00:39:48.660 it's
00:39:49.460 going
00:39:49.660 to
00:39:49.860 get
00:39:50.100 even
00:39:50.420 bigger
00:39:50.780 and
00:39:50.980 larger
00:39:51.340 and
00:39:51.900 if
00:39:52.040 the
00:39:52.180 government
00:39:52.460 is
00:39:52.720 willing
00:39:53.040 to
00:39:53.300 take
00:39:53.580 a
00:39:53.800 40
00:39:54.120 billion
00:39:54.380 job
00:39:54.840 then
00:39:55.320 a
00:39:55.680 tinier
00:39:56.140 job
00:39:56.560 at
00:39:56.800 only
00:39:57.160 40
00:39:57.780 to
00:39:58.080 the
00:39:58.240 size
00:39:58.640 and
00:39:58.900 give
00:39:59.180 that
00:39:59.440 away
00:39:59.680 from
00:39:59.900 China
00:40:00.260 we're
00:40:01.520 going
00:40:01.640 to
00:40:01.700 have
00:40:01.860 to
00:40:01.980 wonder
00:40:02.220 what
00:40:02.620 else
00:40:02.880 are
00:40:03.020 they
00:40:03.120 going
00:40:03.260 to
00:40:03.340 give
00:40:03.480 away
00:40:03.760 yeah
00:40:04.240 well
00:40:05.100 I
00:40:05.320 appreciate
00:40:05.700 you
00:40:05.960 taking
00:40:06.180 the
00:40:06.340 time
00:40:06.540 with
00:40:06.720 us
00:40:06.920 today
00:40:07.200 I've
00:40:07.620 learned
00:40:07.860 a lot
00:40:08.200 from
00:40:08.360 you
00:40:08.440 in
00:40:08.540 fact
00:40:08.660 just
00:40:08.860 your
00:40:09.020 press
00:40:09.220 release
00:40:09.560 itself
00:40:10.220 contained
00:40:10.640 background
00:40:11.040 information
00:40:11.600 I
00:40:12.320 had
00:40:12.520 not
00:40:12.700 seen
00:40:12.940 before
00:40:13.240 I
00:40:13.460 seek
00:40:13.700 to
00:40:13.860 educate
00:40:14.180 myself
00:40:14.660 in
00:40:15.320 this
00:40:15.500 matter
00:40:15.780 because
00:40:16.220 I
00:40:17.120 watch
00:40:17.420 with
00:40:17.600 some
00:40:17.860 envy
00:40:18.340 the
00:40:18.860 revival
00:40:19.300 of
00:40:19.600 American
00:40:20.120 industry
00:40:21.100 especially
00:40:22.080 heavy
00:40:22.440 industry
00:40:22.920 and
00:40:23.560 I'm
00:40:23.720 thinking
00:40:24.000 why
00:40:24.240 can't
00:40:24.540 that
00:40:24.680 be
00:40:24.860 us
00:40:25.180 and
00:40:25.880 I
00:40:26.000 think
00:40:26.200 that
00:40:26.440 that's
00:40:26.820 something
00:40:27.020 we have
00:40:27.340 to fight
00:40:27.660 for
00:40:27.900 as much
00:40:28.280 in
00:40:28.520 the
00:40:28.840 steel
00:40:29.100 industry
00:40:29.500 as
00:40:30.640 we
00:40:30.860 would
00:40:31.180 I
00:40:31.300 mean
00:40:31.380 I'm
00:40:31.540 an
00:40:31.620 Alberta
00:40:31.880 boy
00:40:32.120 originally
00:40:32.480 the
00:40:32.680 oil
00:40:32.860 and
00:40:32.980 gas
00:40:33.220 industry
00:40:33.560 that
00:40:33.780 is
00:40:33.960 a
00:40:34.100 steel
00:40:34.300 industry
00:40:34.700 I'll
00:40:36.000 stop
00:40:36.280 now
00:40:36.580 because
00:40:36.880 you've
00:40:37.080 been
00:40:37.180 generous
00:40:37.460 with
00:40:37.640 your
00:40:37.740 time
00:40:37.960 but
00:40:38.080 I
00:40:38.180 hope
00:40:38.340 we
00:40:38.460 can
00:40:38.600 speak
00:40:38.800 again
00:40:39.040 another
00:40:39.260 day
00:40:39.600 all right
00:40:40.460 thanks
00:40:40.680 so much
00:40:41.100 for
00:40:41.220 hearing
00:40:41.480 well
00:40:41.880 it's
00:40:42.100 my
00:40:42.380 pleasure
00:40:42.660 thank
00:40:42.960 you
00:40:43.060 for
00:40:43.180 that
00:40:43.460 we've
00:40:44.220 been
00:40:44.300 talking
00:40:44.500 with
00:40:44.660 Ed
00:40:44.820 Whalen 0.79
00:40:45.020 he's
00:40:45.280 the
00:40:45.400 president
00:40:45.720 and
00:40:46.000 CEO
00:40:46.340 of
00:40:46.720 the
00:40:46.840 Canadian
00:40:47.200 Institute
00:40:47.980 of
00:40:48.780 steel
00:40:49.020 construction
00:40:49.540 stay
00:40:50.100 with
00:40:50.300 us
00:40:50.580 more
00:40:51.300 ahead
00:40:51.500 on
00:40:51.600 the
00:40:51.700 rebel
00:40:51.880 on
00:41:02.820 my
00:41:03.000 monologue
00:41:03.320 yesterday
00:41:03.640 about
00:41:03.780 the
00:41:03.900 liberals
00:41:04.080 reluctantly
00:41:04.600 dropping
00:41:05.020 Imam
00:41:05.440 Hassan
00:41:06.020 Guy
00:41:06.360 over
00:41:07.320 anti-Semitic
00:41:08.040 comments
00:41:08.300 Paul writes
00:41:08.840 the
00:41:09.740 liberals
00:41:09.960 only care
00:41:10.420 about
00:41:10.620 power
00:41:10.960 as long
00:41:11.360 as they
00:41:11.600 thought
00:41:11.800 Guy
00:41:12.020 was
00:41:12.220 going
00:41:12.360 to
00:41:12.440 deliver
00:41:12.800 his
00:41:13.000 seat
00:41:13.180 they
00:41:13.520 were
00:41:13.620 happy
00:41:13.820 to
00:41:14.000 look
00:41:14.120 the
00:41:14.240 other
00:41:14.360 way
00:41:14.540 on
00:41:14.760 his
00:41:14.940 rabid
00:41:15.300 bigotry
00:41:16.160 well
00:41:16.720 not
00:41:16.920 just
00:41:17.140 that
00:41:17.480 but
00:41:17.760 you
00:41:19.500 know
00:41:19.580 they
00:41:19.720 were
00:41:19.860 fine
00:41:20.540 with
00:41:21.580 him
00:41:22.160 having
00:41:22.720 those
00:41:22.960 views
00:41:23.160 because
00:41:23.460 they
00:41:23.680 you know
00:41:25.100 I think
00:41:25.300 they've
00:41:25.460 made
00:41:25.580 the
00:41:25.720 decision
00:41:26.160 that
00:41:26.560 Jews
00:41:27.140 were
00:41:27.460 important
00:41:28.000 politically
00:41:28.400 in the
00:41:28.700 past
00:41:29.180 especially
00:41:30.020 before
00:41:30.380 there
00:41:30.560 were
00:41:30.700 donation
00:41:31.220 limits
00:41:31.720 they
00:41:32.220 loved
00:41:32.540 getting
00:41:32.820 Jewish
00:41:33.200 donors
00:41:33.620 but
00:41:33.900 now
00:41:34.260 donations
00:41:35.040 are
00:41:35.260 capped
00:41:35.620 you
00:41:36.040 can
00:41:36.200 be
00:41:36.340 a
00:41:36.500 rich
00:41:36.980 Jew 0.95
00:41:37.300 which
00:41:37.520 the
00:41:37.740 liberals
00:41:38.020 used
00:41:38.240 to
00:41:38.380 like
00:41:38.600 and
00:41:38.700 only
00:41:38.860 give
00:41:39.040 1600
00:41:39.440 bucks
00:41:39.820 but
00:41:40.020 now
00:41:41.080 there's
00:41:41.540 what
00:41:41.700 1.3
00:41:42.340 million
00:41:42.600 Muslims
00:41:42.980 in the
00:41:43.300 country
00:41:43.520 only
00:41:43.740 300,000
00:41:44.480 Jews
00:41:44.840 liberals
00:41:45.460 can
00:41:45.700 do
00:41:45.880 math
00:41:46.280 even
00:41:46.480 though
00:41:46.640 you
00:41:46.760 wouldn't
00:41:47.000 think
00:41:47.220 it
00:41:47.340 from
00:41:47.480 their
00:41:47.620 budgets
00:41:47.940 they've
00:41:48.280 just
00:41:48.500 made
00:41:48.800 the
00:41:49.240 decision
00:41:49.640 like
00:41:49.960 Jeremy
00:41:50.260 Corbyn
00:41:50.600 and
00:41:50.700 the
00:41:50.780 Labour
00:41:50.940 Party
00:41:51.280 that
00:41:51.500 their
00:41:52.800 democratic
00:41:53.460 and
00:41:53.780 demographic
00:41:54.340 future
00:41:54.860 lies
00:41:55.720 with 0.81
00:41:55.920 Islam
00:41:56.300 not
00:41:56.600 Jew 0.95
00:41:57.000 Liz
00:41:58.960 writes
00:41:59.320 there's
00:42:00.160 no way
00:42:00.480 we should
00:42:00.880 have
00:42:01.040 any
00:42:01.200 of
00:42:01.340 these
00:42:01.460 extremists
00:42:01.900 in our
00:42:02.100 government
00:42:02.300 whether
00:42:02.560 Kalistani 0.98
00:42:03.400 sympathizers
00:42:04.020 or Muslim 0.94
00:42:04.420 Brotherhood
00:42:04.820 just how 1.00
00:42:05.380 stupid 1.00
00:42:05.640 are we 1.00
00:42:06.000 time to
00:42:06.320 clean
00:42:06.500 out
00:42:06.680 the
00:42:06.840 house
00:42:07.060 before
00:42:07.580 our
00:42:07.800 entire
00:42:08.100 government
00:42:08.540 is
00:42:08.740 full
00:42:08.920 of
00:42:09.040 anti-western
00:42:09.640 extremists
00:42:10.180 yeah
00:42:10.820 and I
00:42:11.120 gotta tell
00:42:11.560 you
00:42:11.660 I
00:42:12.640 talk
00:42:12.900 about
00:42:13.060 the
00:42:13.180 United
00:42:13.360 Kingdom
00:42:13.680 as
00:42:14.040 my
00:42:14.220 personal
00:42:14.640 dystopian
00:42:15.500 time
00:42:15.980 machine
00:42:16.260 when it
00:42:16.520 comes to
00:42:16.900 political
00:42:17.240 correctness
00:42:17.800 and free
00:42:18.460 speech
00:42:18.840 but it's
00:42:20.280 also that
00:42:21.020 when it
00:42:21.360 comes to
00:42:21.880 the
00:42:22.280 Islamification
00:42:22.840 of parties
00:42:23.780 of the
00:42:24.040 left
00:42:24.340 the
00:42:25.380 Jeremy
00:42:25.740 Corbyn
00:42:26.100 party
00:42:26.480 is
00:42:27.000 literally
00:42:27.440 driving
00:42:27.900 out
00:42:28.240 any
00:42:28.720 I
00:42:29.040 don't
00:42:29.300 even
00:42:29.480 know
00:42:29.700 if
00:42:29.840 there's
00:42:30.080 any
00:42:30.240 Jews
00:42:30.460 left
00:42:30.740 in
00:42:31.300 that
00:42:31.440 party
00:42:31.700 they've
00:42:32.220 left
00:42:32.620 these
00:42:33.440 are
00:42:33.600 lifelong
00:42:34.340 labor
00:42:34.740 rights
00:42:35.060 who just
00:42:35.340 say
00:42:35.500 I'm
00:42:35.680 sorry
00:42:35.940 I can't
00:42:36.340 be
00:42:36.440 in
00:42:36.540 anti-semitic
00:42:37.160 party
00:42:37.420 and that's
00:42:38.160 Corbyn
00:42:38.560 even further
00:42:39.300 to his
00:42:39.580 left
00:42:39.820 the UK
00:42:40.300 greens
00:42:40.740 are just
00:42:41.380 fully
00:42:42.200 Hamasified 1.00
00:42:43.380 it's crazy
00:42:43.900 and it's
00:42:44.520 coming here
00:42:44.940 Bruce writes
00:42:46.940 I'm glad
00:42:47.980 this anti-semite
00:42:48.640 has been
00:42:48.940 sacked
00:42:49.220 but so
00:42:49.560 many more
00:42:49.960 liberal
00:42:50.200 Muslim
00:42:50.500 members
00:42:50.820 harbor
00:42:51.340 the same
00:42:51.700 cultural
00:42:52.040 feelings
00:42:52.560 well I
00:42:54.040 think that's
00:42:54.400 true
00:42:54.660 I mean
00:42:55.160 I've told
00:42:55.680 you before
00:42:56.020 that Omar
00:42:56.520 Al-Jabra
00:42:57.100 the parliamentary
00:42:58.140 secretary
00:42:58.800 in charge
00:42:59.920 of foreign
00:43:00.280 consulates
00:43:00.760 that's what
00:43:01.200 his original
00:43:01.920 posting was
00:43:02.580 I have to
00:43:03.460 check what
00:43:03.840 he's in
00:43:04.220 charge of
00:43:04.540 now
00:43:04.800 when he ran
00:43:06.000 the Canadian
00:43:06.380 Arab Federation
00:43:07.120 he lobbied
00:43:08.880 to legalize
00:43:10.120 terrorist groups
00:43:11.300 Hamas and
00:43:11.840 Hezbollah
00:43:12.200 he's
00:43:12.680 he's Trudeau's
00:43:13.920 right-hand man
00:43:14.560 in the Muslim
00:43:15.040 community
00:43:15.480 someone who
00:43:16.700 literally tried
00:43:17.540 to legalize
00:43:18.160 terrorist groups
00:43:18.760 so that's the
00:43:19.300 Canada we live
00:43:19.840 in now
00:43:20.240 let alone
00:43:21.280 one in a
00:43:22.100 five-year
00:43:22.520 trajectory
00:43:23.180 from now
00:43:24.200 that's our show
00:43:25.780 for today folks
00:43:26.380 until next time
00:43:27.500 on behalf of
00:43:28.060 all of us here
00:43:28.560 at Rebel World
00:43:29.080 Headquarters
00:43:29.480 to you at home
00:43:30.040 goodnight
00:43:30.980 keep fighting
00:43:32.020 for freedom
00:43:36.000 here
00:43:37.540 in front of
00:43:39.120 everybody
00:43:39.740 can friend
00:43:40.640 that guy
00:43:40.900 makes
00:43:42.280 feel free
00:43:44.820 駿
00:43:46.200 happy
00:43:46.240 happy
00:43:46.580 to
00:43:46.800 things
00:43:48.820 that guy
00:43:52.300 and
00:43:52.860 go
00:43:52.980 for
00:43:53.580 one
00:43:53.900 when
00:43:54.300 got
00:43:54.580 he
00:43:54.840 for
00:43:57.540 to