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00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels, big and small. You're listening to a free audio only recording my show, The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:05.300 Today, I show you something bizarre. It's a shocking headline at the state broadcaster that 9.6 million tweets from foreign trolls were targeting Canada's politics.

00:00:16.440 That sounds like quite a headline. If you read the story, it starts to fall apart pretty bloody quick.

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00:01:02.000 And without further ado or to do, may I invite you to listen to this bizarre tale of a fake news story in the CBC that itself was fake news.

00:01:12.460 Tonight, Gerald Butts and the CBC have determined who the threat is to the integrity of the next election.

00:01:17.600 And it's me? It's February 18th and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:25.440 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:29.260 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:33.360 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:39.180 Hey, I follow Gerald Butts on Twitter.

00:01:47.020 Well, he's officially blocked me, but I read his tweets anyhow.

00:01:50.180 I follow him because he is the de facto prime minister.

00:01:53.020 That's not a snide comment. It's what Trudeau himself says.

00:01:56.780 Here's a story.

00:01:57.640 Shortly after Trudeau was elected from December 2015 in the Hill Times newspaper,

00:02:01.900 Mr. Trudeau sent the message at the first meeting of liberal MPs that Principal Secretary Gerald Butts and Chief of Staff Katie Telford are his inner circle and that they speak for him, a liberal source told the Hill Times.

00:02:16.120 They're told that any emails from him should be taken as if they come from Trudeau himself.

00:02:21.560 Now, we know that Trudeau, well, we know it's true.

00:02:26.240 And here's how we know that's true.

00:02:27.540 Because no prime minister of a G7 country can take 40 personal days off a year in addition to weekends and holidays.

00:02:37.940 If he does, he's obviously not the one who's actually running the G7 country.

00:02:44.120 Justin Trudeau is not running our country.

00:02:46.220 And he shows you that by going on holidays every other week.

00:02:49.720 Someone else is running the country, and his name is Gerald Butts.

00:02:52.120 So I think that's why it's worth following Gerald Butts on Twitter, because you really know what's important to the government by seeing what's important to him.

00:02:59.020 And Butts is quite willing to share his thoughts on many subjects.

00:03:02.740 He has very little self-control.

00:03:04.980 I found it terrifying a few years back when he was praising a new book on Marxist economics by the French economist Thomas Piketty.

00:03:13.340 Literally a new communist manifesto.

00:03:17.400 Unbelievable.

00:03:18.860 And Gerald Butts was in love with this book.

00:03:20.960 So it's worth following Gerald Butts.

00:03:24.620 He's the guy, by the way, you might recall, who took foreign money for his lobby group, the World Wildlife Fund, to fight against Canadian pipelines.

00:03:32.380 I've shown you this clip before, but you must see it again.

00:03:35.520 Him saying no pipeline will ever be built, no matter the route.

00:03:39.540 We think that the oil sands have been expanded too rapidly without a serious plan for environmental remediation in the first place.

00:03:47.200 So that's why we don't think it's up to us to decide whether there should be another route for a pipeline, because the real alternative is not an alternative route.

00:03:58.620 It's an alternative economy.

00:03:59.880 So I follow Butts, and you can tell when he's agitated, because he doesn't control himself.

00:04:06.880 It's so weird for a man of such high station.

00:04:09.180 He lashes out at his enemies.

00:04:11.220 He lacks self-control when he's angry.

00:04:13.460 He calls his opponents Nazis.

00:04:15.880 Oh, my God.

00:04:17.000 He even called me that, and I'm Jewish.

00:04:19.500 So I watch him, because it's a premonition about what the government's going to do.

00:04:23.180 Normally, powerful men don't tweet their real thoughts to the public.

00:04:26.680 They don't get their hands dirty in fights. 0.98

00:04:28.540 But I sense that Gerald Butts is a micromanager, and more to the point, he doesn't quite trust his staff, certainly not his token cabinet ministers who are there just for gender or racial affirmative action reasons.

00:04:38.160 So he sometimes loses patience and just writes things himself, says things himself that he wishes his staff would do, but they don't.

00:04:44.380 So he's just going to do it.

00:04:45.260 So the other day, when this Jody Wilson-Raybould scandal was just blowing up, Butts was frustrated that the media were getting off narrative and thinking for themselves.

00:04:54.560 So he started pushing distractions on them, and he does that on Twitter sometimes, because that's one of the ways he communicates to most media, including to CBC staff.

00:05:05.080 He's smarter than to put things in a memo or an email or even a text.

00:05:08.940 He just says, he telegraphs what he wants on Twitter.

00:05:12.420 And within a day or two, you can see that show up on the message tracks on the CBC, for example.

00:05:18.520 I always say, if you want to know what that government comedy show, This Hour Has 22 Minutes is going to do.

00:05:24.080 If you want to see what they'll say this week, just look to what Gerald Butts was tweeting about last week and add a laugh track.

00:05:31.240 So anything attacking Donald Trump, obviously, anything attacking conservatives, especially anything about global warming, Gerald Butts tweets it today.

00:05:39.540 Next week, it'll be on 22 Minutes.

00:05:41.160 So, OK, enough preamble.

00:05:42.360 Here's a Gerald Butts tweet.

00:05:43.800 It's not even one word long.

00:05:45.360 It's not even one letter long.

00:05:46.600 It's just an exclamation point, which is like having a little siren on saying, hey, gang, hey, guys.

00:05:52.340 Hey, guys, that Jody Wilson-Raybould thing is sort of ugly.

00:05:55.640 This is an emergency. 0.99

00:05:56.500 I need you to follow these little rabbit tracks instead of hunting big game and quoting this fool. 0.96

00:06:03.160 Mr. Wilson-Raybould gave you for why she she decided to resign from cabinet.

00:06:08.020 Do you want me to answer that question in English?

00:06:10.320 As a government, we take very seriously our responsibility to grow the economy, to invest in jobs, to invest in a strong future for Canadians.

00:06:23.360 I love that.

00:06:24.420 I'll have to use that.

00:06:25.740 If my wife asked me a question like, Ezra, why didn't you take out the garbage?

00:06:30.160 You know, we missed pickup this week.

00:06:31.980 I'll have to start by saying, do you want me to answer that in English?

00:06:36.980 And then I'll say, I forgot the line.

00:06:38.900 And then I'll talk about how I'm working hard to create new jobs or whatever.

00:06:42.820 That was just classic.

00:06:43.960 I love that line.

00:06:45.280 I'm going to use that in my personal life.

00:06:47.460 If I get a tough question, I'm going to say, do you want me to answer that in English?

00:06:52.440 Anyways, Gerald Butts really wanted to change the channel hard.

00:06:58.120 He's had a bad week, the poor lad.

00:07:00.460 So he tweeted an exclamation point and linked to a story on the state broadcaster.

00:07:06.400 Do you see it at the bottom there?

00:07:07.440 It said, a CBC Radio Canada analysis of 9.6 million tweets from accounts since deleted

00:07:15.080 shows that pipeline and immigration debates in Canada were inflamed by trolls thought

00:07:20.440 to be based in Russia, Iran, and Venezuela.

00:07:23.980 Oh, okay.

00:07:25.420 Let's look at that because that'll help us understand what Gerald Butts, Trudeau's boss,

00:07:29.600 the de facto prime minister, is thinking.

00:07:32.380 Right?

00:07:32.600 So here's the story.

00:07:34.660 CBC investigates.

00:07:36.680 Ooh, uh-oh.

00:07:38.420 Twitter trolls stoked debates about immigrants and pipelines in Canada.

00:07:42.960 Data show.

00:07:44.820 Is that true?

00:07:46.560 Is the debate in this country about immigrants and pipelines, is it fake?

00:07:49.800 Is it all just fake news?

00:07:51.940 Before I even read the story to you, what do you think?

00:07:53.940 I know Gerald Butts wishes those two huge issues were fake because they're both a pain

00:07:58.780 in his neck.

00:07:59.760 The pipeline fiasco, which he personally helped create, and the immigration fiasco, which Trudeau

00:08:05.960 created, really with a single tweet telling the whole world just to walk into Canada,

00:08:09.660 and they have 50,000 bogus refugees just walking in, on top of 50,000 Syrian refugees, none of

00:08:15.260 whom actually came from Syria.

00:08:16.580 As you know, they were already safe in Jordan, Turkey, and Lebanon.

00:08:18.620 I bet Gerald Butts pressed Trudeau to tweet that tweet about the open borders.

00:08:23.900 It was done as a reaction, a slapback to Trump's executive order on immigration two years ago.

00:08:28.320 Butts hates Trump.

00:08:29.200 I bet he was the mastermind behind that disaster.

00:08:31.740 I guess next week we'll learn that only Twitter trolls care about Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:08:36.480 It's a fake story, too.

00:08:37.800 That's my hunch.

00:08:39.200 So let's see.

00:08:40.100 Let's see what the story says.

00:08:41.060 Let's read it.

00:08:41.540 By the way, the sub-headline says, 9 million troll tweets released by Twitter reveal foreign

00:08:48.860 campaigns to influence Canadians' opinions.

00:08:53.200 9 million troll tweets released by Twitter. 0.96

00:08:56.460 That sounds like a lot of tweets by trolls.

00:08:59.580 And if you read those words as they were written, it sounds like all 9 million were focused on

00:09:04.080 Canada, didn't it?

00:09:05.100 That's how it was written.

00:09:06.960 But immediately the story is less than it appears.

00:09:10.140 Here, let me just start reading it.

00:09:11.340 I'm just going to start reading the story.

00:09:12.480 Twitter trolls linked to suspected foreign influence campaigns stoked controversy over

00:09:17.160 pipelines and immigration in Canada, according to a CBC Radio Canada analysis of 9.6 million

00:09:23.020 tweets from accounts still deleted.

00:09:25.420 Okay, so I'm really excited now.

00:09:27.960 Roughly 21,600 tweets from those troll accounts directly targeted Canadians.

00:09:34.220 Many of them with messages critical of Canadian pipeline projects and tweets that highlighted

00:09:37.960 divisions over Canada's policies on immigration and refugees.

00:09:42.560 Oh, so hang on there.

00:09:43.720 So the number that was used in all their headlines, it's not 9.6 million tweets targeting Canada.

00:09:50.380 It's just 21,600 tweets.

00:09:55.320 It's not 9.6.

00:09:56.360 I came for the 9.6 million tweets.

00:09:58.500 So it's how you got me in the door and you're just saying this.

00:10:00.380 So, you know, there's half a billion tweets published every day, right?

00:10:08.460 500 million.

00:10:10.040 More than that, actually.

00:10:12.080 And over the course of five years, CBC and Rustigates says that there were 21,600 of them

00:10:19.560 written by foreign trolls that mentioned Canada in five years.

00:10:23.040 So that's about 4,000 tweets a year.

00:10:26.420 So that's about 10 tweets a day.

00:10:30.260 There's 7.5 million Twitter users in Canada.

00:10:34.100 And we got ourselves a case of 10 tweets a day by obscure Twitter accounts that were targeting

00:10:38.660 Canada.

00:10:40.800 I'm not making this up.

00:10:42.160 I'm just telling you what the CBC is breathlessly reporting.

00:10:45.120 Oh, my God.

00:10:45.920 Oh, my God.

00:10:46.640 9.6 million tweets.

00:10:48.700 No, actually, there's 10 a day out of half a billion.

00:10:52.020 Gerald Butts is so excited about this, he's exclaiming it with an exclamation point.

00:10:56.020 Here, I'm going to read some more.

00:10:57.040 Get a load of this.

00:10:58.740 The troll accounts, which have since been deleted by Twitter, are suspected of having

00:11:02.660 originated in Russia, Iran, and Venezuela.

00:11:06.300 Since 2013, 245 of these accounts retweeted messages from Canadian activists, politicians,

00:11:13.680 and media reports about various issues from potential environmental impacts to grassroots

00:11:17.740 movements against the projects.

00:11:19.360 Okay, it's a little bit more interesting, I guess.

00:11:23.160 But 10 tweets a day, I'll be honest, I got a little bit of a Twitter addiction.

00:11:27.640 I write more than 10 tweets a day personally.

00:11:30.900 So it's a bit weird that the CBC has invested so much in the story.

00:11:36.460 They put two senior investigative reporters on the story.

00:11:40.240 But it's a bit interesting that these Twitter trolls they're talking about came from Iran,

00:11:45.100 Venezuela, and Russia.

00:11:46.020 I wonder why they don't also have Saudi Arabia in that list.

00:11:49.160 I wonder if it's because one of Twitter's largest investors is this guy, Prince Al-Walid

00:11:53.780 of Saudi Arabia.

00:11:54.600 I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that Twitter's not disclosing Saudi propaganda.

00:11:59.960 But the allegation that there's 245 troll accounts over the course of five years who retweeted

00:12:08.040 what some real Canadians were saying.

00:12:11.060 I'm still waiting for the bombshell part here.

00:12:13.120 I came for the 9.6 million.

00:12:14.520 I quickly realized that was just false advertising.

00:12:17.300 Fake news.

00:12:17.980 I'm still waiting for the bombshell.

00:12:19.300 So, let me read some more.

00:12:22.720 I think this is their most damning thing.

00:12:25.840 Most of those pipeline tweets were sent on January 24th, 2017, when U.S. President Donald

00:12:31.520 Trump signed an executive order to greenlight the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines.

00:12:36.820 Tweets mentioning those pipelines were retweeted some 9,420 times across Canada and the United

00:12:41.380 States.

00:12:41.860 Now, just so you know, the trolls in question were tweeting against the pipeline.

00:12:46.340 They were from Iran, which makes sense.

00:12:47.800 Iran and some other OPEC countries don't want North American oil.

00:12:50.660 I'm not sure what half of that has to do with Canada, though, because the Dakota Access

00:12:54.780 Pipeline is Canadian.

00:12:56.400 But I get the Keystone XL part.

00:12:59.300 Let me read some more.

00:13:01.620 Iranian tweets well-versed in pipeline debates.

00:13:04.240 So, they're really getting into it now.

00:13:05.320 Here's how devastating this was.

00:13:06.820 The trolls appeared well-versed in Canadian debates about pipelines, quoting and retweeting

00:13:11.420 prominent figures.

00:13:12.760 The account of Greenpeace Canada climate and energy campaigner Mike Oedema, for instance,

00:13:17.120 was the eighth most retweeted by trolls.

00:13:20.180 Oedema has been highly critical of Canadian pipeline projects and oil sands developments.

00:13:24.620 The trolls retweeted him 53 times.

00:13:28.320 Now, I know Mike Oedema.

00:13:29.540 He's a Greenpeace activist.

00:13:30.460 He's based in Alberta.

00:13:31.480 He hates the oil sands.

00:13:32.980 Greenpeace is headquartered in Amsterdam, of course.

00:13:35.720 Oedema helps organize actual crimes against the oil sands in real life.

00:13:40.260 Not online, but people trespassing, people doing vandalism. 1.00

00:13:43.760 I think Mike's an idiot. 1.00

00:13:45.120 On Twitter, he's just a crank. 1.00

00:13:46.800 But the problem with Mike is not that he was retweeted a grand total of 53 times amongst

00:13:53.000 the 9.6 million here.

00:13:54.720 That Mike was retweeted 53 times by some foreign Twitter account.

00:13:57.500 That's not the problem.

00:13:59.100 The problem with Mike Oedema is that he's paid by Greenpeace, a foreign multinational company,

00:14:03.480 to jam up the oil sands in real life every day for 10 years.

00:14:07.340 Oh, and he worked with Gerald Butts on that, by the way.

00:14:10.520 Here's Mike Oedema's group.

00:14:11.620 You can see Greenpeace, the logo at the bottom there.

00:14:14.240 And on the same page, at the top right, you can see the World Wildlife Fund.

00:14:18.840 That's Gerald Butts' old group.

00:14:20.280 This is taken from the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Tar Sands Campaign Plan,

00:14:25.900 where they were dumping millions of dollars a year, as you can see,

00:14:28.980 through Canadian front groups to attack the pipelines.

00:14:31.480 So Mike Oedema and Gerald Butts were actually taking real foreign money

00:14:35.880 to actually fight against real pipelines.

00:14:38.180 Frankly, who cares that some tweet that appears to originate in Iran

00:14:43.100 retweeted Mike Oedema 53 times?

00:14:45.900 That didn't stop the pipelines. 0.99

00:14:47.560 Gerald Butts and Mike Oedema did.

00:14:50.220 What about the fact that they took actual foreign money to actively campaign in real life?

00:14:56.360 And that Butts has, in fact, killed pipelines in real life directly,

00:14:59.200 overturning the cabinet approval of Northern, the National Energy Board approval

00:15:03.620 of the Northern Gateway Pipeline, killing Energy East by changing the terms of the approval process,

00:15:08.060 letting the Trans Mountain Pipeline be delayed interminably.

00:15:11.200 I'm not really worried about 53 retweets of Mike Oedema.

00:15:14.640 I'm really worried about Mike Oedema, but not really.

00:15:17.640 He's just like an Occupy Wall Street ragamuffin. 0.99

00:15:20.600 I'm actually worried about Gerald Butts.

00:15:21.860 So what does this all mean?

00:15:24.840 I mean, 9.6 million tweets was the sexy headline, and then that fell to 21,600 tweets,

00:15:31.040 and that was over five years?

00:15:33.680 And then at least part of that was really just retweeting what real people were saying,

00:15:38.180 but the numbers are so small.

00:15:41.000 53 retweets in five years?

00:15:43.580 I mean, not to brag, but I sometimes write a tweet that people find interesting,

00:15:49.520 and it's retweeted by other people 10,000, 20,000 times.

00:15:53.060 That means it's shared 20,000 times.

00:15:55.620 Sharing Mike Oedema's tweet 53 times out of 9.6 million?

00:16:01.000 So, wow, why are we even reading this?

00:16:03.360 I'm reading through this story, and I'm not really getting the point of it yet.

00:16:07.040 I'll read one more part about immigration, and then I'll get to their methodology.

00:16:10.340 I just want to show you what else we're talking about besides pipelines.

00:16:13.540 Russian trolls boosted immigration fears.

00:16:17.080 Alongside the possible Iranian influence campaign,

00:16:19.260 a slew of inauthentic Russian accounts also tried to target Canadians with messages

00:16:23.600 stoking immigration fears and conspiracy theories.

00:16:26.520 Many of these tweets reacted to major news events,

00:16:28.840 such as the Quebec City mosque shooting

00:16:30.540 and the travel ban on Muslim countries enacted by Donald Trump.

00:16:34.460 The chart below shows the daily volume of troll tweets by topic.

00:16:38.180 The peaks coincide with major events.

00:16:40.340 Oh, this is going to be amazing, I guess.

00:16:44.620 See, Angus Reid has polled Canadians, and I mean real Canadians, real people,

00:16:48.820 and found that 94% of Canadians do not support Justin Trudeau's plan to increase immigration.

00:16:55.900 As you can see, the bottom line there, only 6% want more immigration.

00:17:01.900 49% want less immigration.

00:17:03.980 That's the red line.

00:17:04.640 31% want it kept the same, and the rest don't know.

00:17:07.620 So, does the CBC have some bombshell proof that we were all just sort of hacked by Russians?

00:17:14.920 That maybe that refugee camp of Trudeau's migrants in Toronto, 0.99

00:17:20.100 I mean, it's just, is that fake?

00:17:21.540 Is that like a Twitter thing?

00:17:23.800 Or that the accused murderer and rapist of Marissa Shen,

00:17:27.240 the Chinese girl allegedly murdered and raped by this guy,

00:17:31.200 one of Trudeau's Syrians in Burnaby. 0.96

00:17:33.140 Was that some Russian troll thing too?

00:17:35.820 Well, they have charts.

00:17:37.080 Here's the charts the CBC rolls out.

00:17:38.780 And that's what they've got.

00:17:42.220 You can see that immigration chart in the top right there.

00:17:45.560 There are a couple of hundred tweets over five years.

00:17:53.240 Not a couple hundred million.

00:17:55.620 Not a couple million.

00:17:57.180 Not even a couple thousand.

00:17:59.320 A few hundred tweets over five years.

00:18:02.080 I say again, Twitter has 500 million tweets a day.

00:18:07.960 How is any of this a news story?

00:18:11.060 Why is this a news story?

00:18:14.460 Why is this so exciting for the state broadcaster

00:18:17.200 that they actually publish this instead of saying,

00:18:19.880 yeah, sorry guys, 21,600 tweets over five years is a rounding error.

00:18:25.500 And all they really did is just retweet real Canadians for better or for worse.

00:18:30.560 Why all the fuss here?

00:18:33.520 Well, look at this.

00:18:35.920 Methodology.

00:18:36.820 CBC downloaded and analyzed 9.6 million tweets released by Twitter on this page.

00:18:43.200 To isolate tweets targeting Canadians,

00:18:45.060 the CBC searched the tweets of 67 key words,

00:18:48.700 including the names of public figures.

00:18:50.580 Justin Trudeau, Andrew Scheer, Ezra Levant?

00:18:57.440 I'm on there?

00:18:58.560 And places, Toronto and Alberta.

00:19:02.100 And organizations, Kinder Morgan, CBC, NDP,

00:19:05.000 as well as popular hashtags like Canadian Politics,

00:19:07.480 Ontario Politics, and Quebec Politics.

00:19:11.740 So my name was put in there?

00:19:15.020 That's a public figure.

00:19:16.000 So they checked Justin Trudeau.

00:19:18.880 Okay, good idea.

00:19:19.700 They checked Andrew Scheer.

00:19:20.760 Good idea.

00:19:21.140 And Ezra Levant?

00:19:25.740 Hmm?

00:19:29.580 It's over five years.

00:19:31.540 I emailed the researcher.

00:19:34.500 And I asked him,

00:19:36.060 why didn't you check Stephen Harper?

00:19:41.580 Why didn't you check Dalton McGinty?

00:19:43.780 Why didn't you check Rachel Notley?

00:19:48.300 I, Ezra Levant,

00:19:49.960 a YouTube guy,

00:19:52.480 I'm one of the three people

00:19:54.820 mentioned by the state broadcast,

00:19:58.020 promoted by Gerald Butts of the PMO.

00:20:00.760 Why wasn't Gerald Butts?

00:20:02.040 I mean,

00:20:02.420 I like to think I'm a very important person.

00:20:04.800 Um,

00:20:06.420 yeah,

00:20:07.060 not really.

00:20:07.980 Uh,

00:20:08.160 Gerald Butts is an important person.

00:20:10.040 Why didn't they,

00:20:11.000 why didn't they test this?

00:20:11.940 And why,

00:20:12.280 why are the three names that focus on

00:20:14.000 Justin Trudeau,

00:20:15.260 Andrew Scheer,

00:20:16.360 and moi?

00:20:19.580 Yeah,

00:20:20.100 and then they have this chart.

00:20:22.040 The most retweeted accounts by trolls in Canada.

00:20:26.340 And then,

00:20:26.780 can you see it?

00:20:27.320 Number one,

00:20:28.540 oh,

00:20:28.920 CBC News,

00:20:30.100 196 times.

00:20:31.540 Number two,

00:20:32.480 The Rebel,

00:20:33.820 191 times.

00:20:34.800 Number three,

00:20:35.800 moi,

00:20:36.620 Ezra Levant.

00:20:38.860 Then RT,

00:20:39.900 Press TV,

00:20:40.600 Globe and Mail,

00:20:41.140 Real Donald Trump,

00:20:41.820 Mike Odeema.

00:20:43.960 So,

00:20:44.500 The Rebel was retweeted 191 times,

00:20:47.240 and I was retweeted 148 times.

00:20:50.320 In five years!

00:20:54.120 What are we doing here?

00:20:55.980 Out of 9.6 million retweets,

00:21:00.540 I was retweeted 148 times.

00:21:02.440 Frankly,

00:21:02.800 I'm disappointed it was so low.

00:21:05.560 But what does it even mean?

00:21:06.760 I look at the top there,

00:21:07.740 and the CBC itself was retweeted more than we were,

00:21:09.820 but we don't even know what that means.

00:21:11.660 We don't even know what those tweets were about.

00:21:13.120 It's so weird.

00:21:15.240 At The Rebel,

00:21:15.700 we just mainly tweet our news stories.

00:21:17.920 I tweet about whatever I like.

00:21:19.060 I've actually tweeted more than 100,000 times.

00:21:20.840 I have a little bit of an addiction.

00:21:21.860 I have more than 150,000 followers.

00:21:24.280 I'm actually a bit upset that over the course of five years,

00:21:26.500 I was only retweeted 148 times by all these foreign powers.

00:21:30.800 I asked the CBC researcher,

00:21:32.840 I said,

00:21:33.080 well,

00:21:33.180 what tweets were even retweeted?

00:21:34.420 Why are you implying I was tweeting like some Soviet propaganda?

00:21:38.920 And he sent me privately the list.

00:21:42.480 Most of the tweets that were retweeted had nothing to do about Canada.

00:21:45.860 I was in court in London at the Court of Appeal retweeting Tommy Robinson's trial.

00:21:51.360 That's the bulk of it.

00:21:52.840 Why would that be included?

00:21:54.260 Why would those numbers?

00:21:56.040 I'm overseas in the UK covering a trial about contempt of court.

00:22:02.120 Why would he put those numbers in a story about pipelines and immigration

00:22:07.020 and not disclose that?

00:22:08.980 Isn't that unethical?

00:22:10.900 Isn't that completely misleading?

00:22:14.480 And why were the only journalists tested?

00:22:17.780 There were a couple other people tested they didn't mention there.

00:22:20.960 Why weren't any liberal journalists tested?

00:22:23.220 Wendy Mesley,

00:22:24.140 that conspiracy theorist,

00:22:26.180 David Suzuki.

00:22:27.600 I like to think I'm a big shot.

00:22:29.740 I'm smart enough to know I'm not as big a big shot as David Suzuki.

00:22:32.860 He's a journalist and a politician and an activist who had a lot to say about pipelines.

00:22:37.100 Why wasn't his name tested?

00:22:40.100 Because any name you test only comes up positive.

00:22:44.560 And so you put in David Suzuki,

00:22:46.340 it's going to by far have more retweets than me.

00:22:49.480 So they only tested people they don't like.

00:22:53.100 They threw Trudeau in there too because it would be weird to test me and not him.

00:22:58.860 This was not science.

00:23:00.340 This was not math.

00:23:01.140 This was not journalism.

00:23:02.520 There was no story here at all.

00:23:03.740 It began with 9.6 million tweets and their big fish they pulled out of the sea was a,

00:23:07.700 it's not even a minnow,

00:23:08.620 it's plankton.

00:23:09.380 What have we learned from the story?

00:23:13.260 Well, you have learned nothing from the story.

00:23:16.520 You have not learned in the story what we tweeted that was repeated.

00:23:20.880 You have not learned who repeated it.

00:23:23.140 You have not learned anything other than the CBC wrote a torqued up headline that it was immediately evident as fake news.

00:23:29.980 There were not 9.6 million tweets about Canada by foreign actors.

00:23:33.340 There were 21,000 over five years.

00:23:37.400 The story does not tell us anything about the world.

00:23:40.520 The story does not tell us anything about foreign influence.

00:23:43.840 Certainly a lot less than the fact that both Gerald Butts and Mike Odeema took foreign money to attack our oil sands.

00:23:48.840 What this does instead is it shows you Gerald Butts and the CBC's motives and mission.

00:23:58.360 They seek to imply somehow that we here at The Rebel are foreign trolls or fake news.

00:24:06.080 And in fact that any liberal political problems, pipelines, immigration, Jody Wilson-Raybould soon enough,

00:24:12.140 are fake problems.

00:24:13.140 They're not real. 0.98

00:24:13.740 That's a Venezuelan troll. 0.98

00:24:16.800 Forget about unemployed Albertans. 0.97

00:24:18.240 There's no real person cares about pipelines.

00:24:20.820 Forget about the urban refugee camps in Toronto or opinion poll after opinion poll upset with immigration.

00:24:26.380 That's all fake.

00:24:27.540 Russian spies told you to think that.

00:24:29.640 And whatever you do, whatever you do, people, don't listen to the number three public figure in Canada, Ezra Levant. 0.97

00:24:36.320 He's just a troll.

00:24:38.000 And whatever you do, don't watch the number two news source in Canada, The Rebel. 0.96

00:24:42.680 Watch the number one news source for these trolls, Trudeau's CBC.

00:24:46.060 See, they were retweeted 196 times, but don't listen to the rebel people because they were retweeted 191 times.

00:24:51.900 What does this even mean?

00:24:53.280 It means nothing other than to bamboozle you.

00:24:56.420 It itself is fake news, but it is fake news with a purpose to justify the massive government intervention in social media.

00:25:03.620 We showed you this a year ago, Trudeau threatening Facebook that if they don't censor Trudeau's enemies in this election, he will force them to do so.

00:25:12.180 And then just last month, when the liberals announced their plan to have the government media monitors and have public awareness sessions to train people not to trust media that Trudeau himself doesn't like.

00:25:23.620 That's what this is.

00:25:24.840 This is gobbledygook.

00:25:26.280 That is a word salad of a news story.

00:25:28.680 It is fake news. 0.98

00:25:30.080 It was junk news. 0.95

00:25:31.400 It was designed with bias hardwired in it. 0.98

00:25:34.560 It is nothing.

00:25:37.020 But it has been repeated and retweeted by every liberal who got their new marching orders, the new talking points from Gerald Butts.

00:25:42.920 And by that, I mean the mainstream media, of course.

00:25:45.600 By the way, the CBC says they got their raw data from Twitter and gives you a link where you can, too.

00:25:51.540 So I went to that link and I filled out the very short three-question form asking for the data.

00:25:56.980 I give them my name, my organization name, and my purpose to fact check the media.

00:26:02.180 Isn't that the point of this data?

00:26:03.820 And Twitter wrote back to me denying my request.

00:26:06.580 No reason given.

00:26:07.520 They just refused.

00:26:08.360 So I applied again, saying I was personally named in a news story using the data.

00:26:12.860 Could I please check it myself to see what they're talking about?

00:26:15.760 No reply at all from Twitter.

00:26:17.860 That's weird.

00:26:21.540 It's almost like Twitter's working with Trudeau, I wonder.

00:26:28.040 I mean, they're banning conservatives in the U.K. and the U.S.

00:26:31.940 They kipped off many of my friends from Twitter, from Tommy Robinson to Gavin McInnes.

00:26:36.860 Is that what this is?

00:26:37.760 In this entire deep research investigation, this big story, they never actually mention what rebel tweets or which of my tweets were retweeted.

00:26:48.300 Privately, the journalist said it was mainly my Tommy Robinson trial stuff.

00:26:52.080 But they make me the third most important person in Canada and they make the rebel the second most important news source in Canada.

00:26:57.780 I'm flattered, but it's not true.

00:27:00.140 So it can't be news.

00:27:02.260 It can't be for news reasons.

00:27:04.620 The story is not a news story.

00:27:07.020 It's an anti-news story.

00:27:09.400 The whole reason for this was for censorship.

00:27:13.140 Which is probably why Twitter won't give me the raw data.

00:27:15.820 Mark my words.

00:27:16.540 Mark my words.

00:27:17.120 The story is a pretext.

00:27:18.200 The, we hear the rebel, we're the only media that Gerald Butts can't control.

00:27:23.360 We don't submit to them.

00:27:24.220 We're not going to take their $595 million payoff.

00:27:27.520 They can't silence us in the courts.

00:27:29.580 We've done nothing wrong.

00:27:30.920 We'll beat Rachel Notley in her attempt to silence us in Alberta courts.

00:27:34.680 So, so just get Twitter to do it.

00:27:36.820 Is that what's going on?

00:27:38.380 My friends, that's my theory.

00:27:40.580 It's not based on any foreign trolls.

00:27:42.700 It's based on Trudeau's conduct.

00:27:44.420 Butts' conduct.

00:27:45.360 This bizarre CBC story and what their reporter told me.

00:27:48.660 It's a speculative theory.

00:27:49.960 I'd put it to you for sure.

00:27:50.960 But it's a lot more sensible than this bizarre conspiracy theory strung together by Butts'

00:27:56.120 government journalists at the CBC.

00:27:58.300 Don't you think?

00:27:59.940 Stay with us for more.

00:28:00.940 I'm going to be signing a national emergency.

00:28:18.140 And it's been signed many times before.

00:28:22.740 It's been signed by other presidents.

00:28:26.280 From 1977 or so, it gave the presidents the power.

00:28:31.800 There's rarely been a problem.

00:28:33.860 They sign it.

00:28:34.580 Nobody cares.

00:28:36.260 I guess they weren't very exciting.

00:28:38.120 But nobody cares.

00:28:38.840 They sign it for far less important things in some cases, in many cases.

00:28:44.280 We're talking about an invasion of our country with drugs, with human traffickers, with all

00:28:54.020 types of criminals and gangs.

00:28:56.140 Well, there you have it, President Donald Trump agreeing with Congress's plan for border

00:29:02.100 security and deciding to proceed with an emergency, official declaration of an emergency, to build

00:29:11.660 the wall without Congress.

00:29:13.240 I think it's a bit technical, so we're going to our favorite expert to help figure it out.

00:29:19.820 And by that, I mean Joel Pollack, the senior editor-at-large at Breitbart.com.

00:29:23.980 Now, Joel, I need your help to decode this.

00:29:26.680 Let me read your headline in Breitbart.com.

00:29:30.200 The border wall deal with the national emergency is a win for Trump.

00:29:36.900 I have seen objections from immigration hawks like Mickey Kaus and Ann Coulter,

00:29:42.800 who say that this will be stopped by the courts, Trump capitulated, this is a disaster.

00:29:49.520 I see the White House shooting back at Coulter.

00:29:52.420 Why do you think it's a win for Trump?

00:29:55.480 Why do you think Coulter is wrong if you do?

00:29:58.040 And is that wall actually going to get built, or will it be stopped by some Obama judge?

00:30:03.920 Okay, well, first of all, it's certainly going to be stopped by an Obama judge,

00:30:08.580 but then it's going to eventually come before a Trump judge or a Trump panel of judges.

00:30:15.000 Whether or not he ultimately prevails, what's most important about this border wall deal,

00:30:21.720 plus the national emergency, is what's not in it.

00:30:25.360 And what's not in it is any sort of concession by the president on immigration at all.

00:30:30.800 There's nothing here about immigration.

00:30:33.040 The only concessions have to do with border security.

00:30:36.420 And what Ann Coulter and others are worried about is that there is a provision that allows

00:30:41.080 people who are sponsors or potential sponsors of unaccompanied minor children to avoid deportation.

00:30:49.320 The reason they do that is often when an unaccompanied minor comes to the United States,

00:30:53.240 they may have a relative who's also an illegal alien.

00:30:55.620 There's no other way to care for that child unless you want to hold them separately,

00:30:59.480 other than to release them to the custody of the person who may be an illegal alien.

00:31:03.820 But they may be unwilling to come forward if they're going to be deported.

00:31:07.180 So in order to avoid the political problem of having, quote unquote, kids in cages again,

00:31:11.920 they decided to make sure that the children who are stopped by border patrol can be housed with

00:31:19.600 a relative or someone who's not going to be deported.

00:31:22.260 Now, there's some very good criticism of this.

00:31:25.620 It's not a great policy.

00:31:26.720 It's really more done for political reasons.

00:31:29.060 But as to whether it throws the door open wide for masses of illegal immigrants, I don't think so.

00:31:35.080 It may incentivize some people to send their kids on the dangerous journey.

00:31:38.540 That's a problem.

00:31:39.160 But that becomes less of a problem over time if indeed the wall gets built.

00:31:43.000 So it's a loophole, but it's one that closes.

00:31:45.620 And what Trump did not give away is any sort of legal status for the so-called dreamers who were here

00:31:52.860 under Obama's DACA program, he also didn't give any sort of legal status or path to citizenship

00:31:58.020 for the 11 million-plus illegal aliens here.

00:32:01.300 That's what Democrats wanted when he first proposed the wall as one of his four pillars

00:32:05.880 in his State of the Union last year.

00:32:07.960 So Democrats got nothing in terms of immigration reform, and now they have no leverage.

00:32:14.040 They cannot negotiate anything.

00:32:16.300 The deal that everybody thought would be made was that Democrats would give Trump the wall

00:32:20.480 in exchange for some kind of amnesty.

00:32:23.500 They got nothing.

00:32:25.020 And so I understand there's lots of loopholes here, lots of things people are worried about,

00:32:28.960 and there will be challenges in the courts and technical challenges, all kinds of things.

00:32:33.660 But what's really important here is the Democrats accepted the principle that a border barrier

00:32:38.500 is necessary and therefore not immoral, while at the same time not getting any sort of immigration

00:32:44.220 legal status, path to citizenship, any of that stuff, they've lost all their leverage going

00:32:49.100 forward.

00:32:49.620 And look, I know I'm in the minority here.

00:32:51.900 I mean, I have to be honest.

00:32:52.880 Most people think this is not a good deal.

00:32:55.180 But I feel that it is.

00:32:57.500 I'm prepared to be wrong about that.

00:32:58.840 However, I do think that as this retreats into the rearview mirror, we are going to see

00:33:04.080 people start to realize that Democrats no longer have any leverage to achieve anything

00:33:09.800 on immigration, even though they have control of the House of Representatives.

00:33:13.060 And when it comes to the 2020 election, they're going to have to face their own voters and

00:33:18.440 tell them, we didn't get anything for you.

00:33:20.200 And they're going to start squabbling amongst themselves the way they have with the Green 0.99

00:33:24.160 New Deal and all sorts of other things.

00:33:25.600 They're going to compete with each other to be more radical than the next.

00:33:30.060 And I think it's going to look very, very bad.

00:33:32.120 Already, you have Democratic presidential candidates vowing to take down Trump's border barrier, 0.97

00:33:36.940 which is just completely ridiculous. 0.88

00:33:38.960 Yeah.

00:33:39.060 You know, I remember you and I spoke about this a couple months ago, and you said that

00:33:43.900 while the border wall is a hot issue in certain states where it's very real and present, in

00:33:50.300 other parts of America, it's not a top issue, especially with independents or Democrats who

00:33:55.880 might consider switching over.

00:33:57.020 But I noted that Beto O'Rourke, I just want to point out, he's Irish Catholic, but he calls

00:34:06.800 himself by a Hispanic nickname because he knows how to do politics in 2019.

00:34:12.960 He came within 2% of being the senator from Texas.

00:34:17.080 He's clearly thinking of running for president.

00:34:20.820 I call him Dento O'Rourke because of his live streaming his dental procedure.

00:34:27.600 Yeah, that was quite simple.

00:34:28.320 He's trying to catch up with Alexander Ocasio-Cortez.

00:34:31.960 But let me play a very quick clip of Beto O'Rourke saying that he would tear down walls.

00:34:37.220 And I think he's saying he would tear down even existing walls.

00:34:40.720 He says he's against walls as a concept.

00:34:43.340 And I've seen him say things like this.

00:34:45.300 Here's a quick clip of Dento O'Rourke.

00:34:49.100 Take a quick look at this.

00:34:51.100 You know, would you, if you could, would you take the wall down now here?

00:34:53.900 Yes.

00:34:54.140 Like you have a wall.

00:34:54.940 Absolutely.

00:34:55.440 Knock it down.

00:34:56.140 I'd take the wall down.

00:34:56.840 Do you think the city, you think if there's a referendum here in this city, that would pass?

00:35:01.180 I do.

00:35:02.180 Here's what we know.

00:35:04.000 After the Secure Fence Act, we have built 600 miles of wall and fencing on a 2,000 mile border.

00:35:10.140 What that has done is not in any demonstrable way made us safer.

00:35:15.420 So it was one thing for Joel, for you to say to me a few months ago,

00:35:18.700 look, this really isn't as hot an issue for independents as it is for the Republican base.

00:35:23.900 And I think you're probably right.

00:35:25.820 But it looks like Beto O'Rourke and the rest of the Dems are going harder and harder down that road.

00:35:31.660 Maybe they're right.

00:35:32.980 Maybe the demographics, maybe the number of those millions of illegals is just so high 1.00

00:35:38.420 that the winner will be the one saying tear down the wall, let in the Trojan horse, let in the millions. 0.92

00:35:45.380 Maybe we've passed the tipping point.

00:35:48.100 And yeah, an open borders, Angela Merkel style candidate will actually win. 0.95

00:35:52.840 What do you think of that?

00:35:53.520 Well, the choice Democrats have to face is a real one between having a generous welfare state

00:36:01.020 with free Medicare, free health care for all, and all the great, wonderful guarantees of federal jobs

00:36:07.320 that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez promised in her Green New Deal.

00:36:10.220 They can have all that.

00:36:11.840 Or they can have an open border, but they can't have both.

00:36:14.460 And you saw that choice happening this week in California, where the new governor, Gavin Newsom,

00:36:19.880 canceled the state's high-speed rail program.

00:36:23.080 Why did he cancel it?

00:36:23.980 Because the cost was approaching $100 billion.

00:36:26.480 It was originally supposed to be $37 billion.

00:36:28.780 Now it's up $77 billion.

00:36:30.540 Some estimates say $98 billion.

00:36:32.960 He needs that money if he's going to extend health care to illegal aliens, which is one of his other campaign promises.

00:36:39.260 And actually, in terms of votes, helping illegal aliens, who may become citizens at some point,

00:36:45.800 is more important than giving joyrides to environmentalists through some farm country that they're never going to visit again.

00:36:52.340 And he decided he's going to choose to have the open borders rather than the big public infrastructure project.

00:37:00.540 But he's going to have to make choices.

00:37:02.840 The states can't print their own money.

00:37:04.280 The federal government can, but within reason.

00:37:07.040 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Democrats aren't just proposing a radical environmental policy.

00:37:11.940 They're also proposing socialism, essentially.

00:37:13.820 And they're planning to pay for it by printing money.

00:37:16.500 That's not a joke.

00:37:18.080 That's not me satirizing their plan.

00:37:19.920 Their plan, essentially, is to print money.

00:37:22.200 The one joke I would tell about it is, borrowing from Douglas Adams, the author of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and the whole series,

00:37:28.840 I think they should just declare the leaf, the official currency of the United States, so that money grows on trees.

00:37:34.220 Then there will be an almost unlimited supply of money for whatever they want to do.

00:37:38.740 You know, I know you're joking, but I know that many on the left would not regard that as a joke.

00:37:46.300 They'd say, yeah, man, why don't we?

00:37:48.360 I have one last question, and that is, the reality that Gavin Newsom has grappled with and chosen, I think it surprised some people.

00:38:02.680 You can defer that reality.

00:38:05.400 You can't fight against reality forever, but you can delay it.

00:38:09.240 I think Angela Merkel delayed it.

00:38:11.000 I think a lot of European countries have delayed it.

00:38:13.520 I think maybe the UK delayed it.

00:38:15.200 Yeah, reality bites sooner or later, but really, the question is, can Democrats delay that moment of reckoning past the year 2020 or maybe 2024?

00:38:27.600 Can they say you can have it all, open borders and a welfare state?

00:38:32.780 And sure, there's going to be an economic crunch or collapse five years from now or so,

00:38:38.300 But Barack Obama shows you can rack up debt and keep it going for a while before there's a collapse.

00:38:45.140 And again, all they need to, if Beto O'Rourke can get 48.5% in Texas in 2018, I think he can win in 2020, 2024, whatever.

00:38:55.960 And so I'm just saying the reality you're talking about, if it can be kicked down the road long enough, America can be swamped.

00:39:03.700 And the Republicans will never win again.

00:39:06.780 Last word to you.

00:39:07.480 What do you think?

00:39:09.960 Well, they are certainly looking toward 2020.

00:39:12.760 They see this sort of hyperbole as an opening ask in a negotiation.

00:39:18.420 They think they're learning Trump's lesson, which is to promise the moon.

00:39:22.000 And maybe you get somewhere into the stratosphere.

00:39:25.160 So you get in the direction you're moving if you lay out the most ambitious possible formulation of your plan.

00:39:32.000 But what they don't get is that Trump was promising his voters things that were in the general public interest, like a border wall, for example.

00:39:38.920 What Democrats are promising is in nobody's interest.

00:39:41.560 And I said this earlier today, but they can vote to amend the laws of the country.

00:39:47.940 They can vote to amend the Constitution.

00:39:49.440 But they can't vote to amend the laws of thermodynamics.

00:39:53.920 And they can cancel natural gas and coal and nuclear and all that stuff and hydroelectric.

00:39:59.460 They don't like hydroelectric because they say it harms the environment.

00:40:02.000 So they're not even into that kind of renewable energy.

00:40:03.960 But they're going to need to provide for the country's energy needs in some other way.

00:40:07.740 And they can't just create energy.

00:40:09.780 They can't spontaneously combust.

00:40:12.280 You know, they can't do that.

00:40:13.460 So they're either asking us to accept shortages and blackouts or they're going to have to scale down their plans.

00:40:20.160 That's not a matter of political expediency.

00:40:22.040 It's a matter of science.

00:40:23.400 And they like to think of themselves as a pro-science party.

00:40:25.580 But they have long since left the planet when it comes to thinking about how climate works and how energy works.

00:40:31.180 Well, I was listening to you and I was thinking you have perfectly described, even though you probably don't know it, Justin Trudeau, our prime minister, and his environment minister, Catherine McKenna.

00:40:42.640 I think they actually learned their craziness from the Democrats, actually, not vice versa.

00:40:47.660 They're probably sharing bad ideas.

00:40:49.160 There you have it.

00:40:49.660 Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large at Breitbart.com.

00:40:52.360 Stay with us.

00:40:53.120 More Ahead on the Rebel.

00:40:53.740 We'll see you next time.

00:41:23.740 When I actually reached out to the CBC reporting, I have to do a follow-up on this.

00:41:27.820 He showed me the names that he tested in this troll list.

00:41:32.020 He didn't test any liberal journalists by name because the only thing that happens when you test a name is does it show up?

00:41:38.560 So it looks bad.

00:41:39.960 Even out of 9.6 million tweets, if I only show up 148 times, that looks very bad.

00:41:45.380 I think they were the reason they only tested me and actually Candace Malikman, Barbara Kay, and that's it for journalists.

00:41:54.540 Is because, and they didn't test any liberals, is because this was a smear.

00:41:58.280 It was a setup.

00:41:59.160 It was biased.

00:42:00.120 And that's why Gerald Butts was promoting it.

00:42:02.000 I think we got a tire by the tail here.

00:42:03.560 What do you think?

00:42:04.720 All right, that's the show for today.

00:42:05.880 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:42:09.660 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:42:11.140 Bye-bye.

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Rebel News Podcast - February 19, 2019

Gerald Butts, CBC decide the threat to the integrity of the next election is — The Rebel Media!

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