Rebel News Podcast - Get ready for Justin Trudeau’s new tax — on plastic

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I tell you about something that you might think is fiction.

00:00:03.460 Oh, but I'm reading from a real document. It's a plastics tax. Yeah, you heard me.

00:00:08.900 Just stop for a second and think about how much plastic is in your life.

00:00:12.400 Now imagine paying a tax to Catherine McKenna for the privilege of using your plastic. 0.50

00:00:16.780 That's what I'm going to talk about. I want to show you excerpts from the key document.

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00:00:54.640 All right, folks, without further to do, here is today's show about the plastics tax.

00:01:01.240 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.

00:01:04.440 Tonight, are you ready for Trudeau's next tax? A tax on plastic.

00:01:08.820 It's April 24th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:11.280 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:17.080 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:21.160 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:27.020 Hey, how are you enjoying Justin Trudeau's carbon tax?

00:01:35.520 Well, do you know what else is made from carbon, made from hydrocarbons?

00:01:39.240 Well, plastics are. Are you ready for a plastics tax?

00:01:43.220 Justin Trudeau and his extremist, shouty, Cabinet Minister Catherine McKenna, they're contemplating one.

00:01:49.240 I'll get back to that later, but I just got to tell you before I get into their proposal.

00:01:54.360 I've never seen an anti-oil protest that would even be possible without oil.

00:01:59.100 They all drive to the protests, of course.

00:02:01.620 They all have modern clothing, much of which has some sort of artificial fiber in it.

00:02:05.080 Think of winter jackets, boots, gloves.

00:02:07.180 Think of backpacks. Think of high-tech plastic and metal cell phones.

00:02:10.760 Think of vinyl protest banners.

00:02:13.340 You really can't function in the modern world without plastic, you know.

00:02:16.140 I mean, obviously.

00:02:17.420 They weren't kidding in that old movie, The Graduate.

00:02:22.320 I just want to say one word to you.

00:02:24.800 Just one word.

00:02:28.160 Yes, sir.

00:02:29.460 Are you listening?

00:02:30.220 Yes, I am.

00:02:32.180 Plastics.

00:02:34.320 Now, that movie was made 52 years ago, if my math is right.

00:02:38.660 And wouldn't you know it, that was actually great career advice.

00:02:42.460 Everything is plastic, and why not?

00:02:44.160 It's durable, because it's impermeable.

00:02:47.140 It's great for waterproof things.

00:02:49.480 It's non-toxic.

00:02:50.760 It doesn't leach into things.

00:02:52.040 It can be made in almost any shape.

00:02:53.940 And it doesn't just let us do new things.

00:02:56.220 It lets us do old things better.

00:02:57.960 In many cases, for example, PVC pipes are better than metal pipes or concrete pipes.

00:03:04.460 Like water mains, they don't break or leak as much or corrode.

00:03:07.860 I'm saying the obvious.

00:03:08.900 It's like saying, hey, guys, this telephone invention is really great.

00:03:12.840 It's so useful.

00:03:13.940 Yeah, plastic.

00:03:14.840 It's ubiquitous.

00:03:15.780 Even the Unabomber, who renounced modern technology and blew people up. 1.00

00:03:21.000 Well, take a look at his little cabin in the forest.

00:03:23.860 Lots of wood, but of course, you can't make a stove out of wood, so that's iron in there.

00:03:27.900 And look at those plastic bags and plastic jugs, and there were plastic water bottles,

00:03:32.960 because really, how are you going to keep water?

00:03:36.400 In some sort of bladder you make out of an animal, leather or something?

00:03:40.220 Are you going to blow glass out of sand or something?

00:03:43.200 Obviously, you're going to use plastic.

00:03:44.600 Even the Unabomber. 0.82

00:03:45.800 I know I'm saying the obvious here, but look, they're literally taxing the air right now.

00:03:50.340 Carbon dioxide, that naturally occurring trace gas.

00:03:53.660 And by that, I mean it's just 400 parts per million parts of air, or it's actually 40,000

00:03:59.420 parts per million in the breath we exhale.

00:04:02.060 Our breath has literally 100 times more CO2 in it than the regular air.

00:04:06.320 That's how insane it is to tax carbon dioxide, the stuff of life.

00:04:10.480 But why not?

00:04:11.160 I mean, if you're into taxes, why not tax the air?

00:04:14.220 People can't live without it, so they've got to pay the tax.

00:04:16.360 You have to demonize air a bit, as they've done with carbon.

00:04:19.360 That's element number six in the periodic table.

00:04:22.120 Well, imagine anathematizing a natural chemical element and teaching people that it's wrong.

00:04:29.440 Oh, I hate nitrogen.

00:04:33.120 We must tax hydrogen.

00:04:36.220 You would be called crazy, which they are.

00:04:39.980 And the problem is no one of authority has called out the crazy.

00:04:42.960 They're all afraid to fight on the science.

00:04:44.740 They're afraid of being called a denier or whatever.

00:04:46.900 So they accept the fake science and try and fight these carbon tax ideas on other grounds.

00:04:52.060 But that's the problem.

00:04:53.060 If you agree with the premise that carbon, by the way, we're made of carbon, too.

00:04:58.320 If we agree with the premise that carbon is poison, which, of course, it's not.

00:05:02.300 All life on Earth would die without carbon dioxide.

00:05:04.440 All plant life, anything green, anything with chlorophyll in it, uses carbon dioxide and photosynthesis.

00:05:09.300 Every single plant and flower and crop would die without CO2.

00:05:14.060 If you agree that carbon dioxide is poison, it's pollution, then how can you then oppose fighting the pollution?

00:05:22.800 And the logic flows to plastic.

00:05:25.360 Plastic, one of the greatest inventions.

00:05:27.420 I know I sound crazy talking about how good plastic is because we all just know it.

00:05:31.740 Just so we don't pay attention to the wallpaper or we don't pay attention to, you know, things we just know.

00:05:38.100 Well, think about it for 60 seconds.

00:05:39.900 We never do think about it for 60 seconds.

00:05:41.660 Look through your bathroom.

00:05:42.780 Think of all the little containers.

00:05:44.260 Look in your fridge.

00:05:44.900 Look in your car.

00:05:45.780 I'll stop because it's nuts to have to make the case for plastic.

00:05:49.520 But actually, nobody is.

00:05:51.600 And we've all conceded that carbon is bad.

00:05:54.640 It is not bad.

00:05:55.560 I remember a few years ago watching my old friend and boss, Preston Manning, give a speech at his Manning Center.

00:06:02.680 And he made the case for green conservatism.

00:06:06.660 It was really painful to watch.

00:06:09.160 I knew that Manning had utterly changed from the principled Western conservatives who so strongly opposed the Kyoto Protocol in the 90s.

00:06:16.460 I worked for him back then.

00:06:17.340 And Preston gave a speech, and not only did he join the global warming cult, but he came out against plastic.

00:06:26.620 I couldn't believe it when I heard it.

00:06:29.140 Remember this?

00:06:30.300 There's more effective ways of tackling environmental problems, including global warming, proliferation of plastics, urban sprawl, biodiversity.

00:06:37.600 I later found out, to my despair, that Preston Manning was taking money from the Ties Foundation.

00:06:45.640 And I've got to tell you, that pretty much broke my heart.

00:06:48.340 I mean, the anti-plastic crusade is a real thing. 0.95

00:06:52.200 Look at this kooky crap that I saw on the CBC website just today. 0.92

00:06:56.940 Do you see that there? 0.98

00:06:57.680 It's a propaganda page called CBC Parents.

00:07:00.760 Our Easter isn't about religion.

00:07:04.380 It's about family and living plastic-free.

00:07:07.600 Um, well, sister, I guess that is your religion then, isn't it?

00:07:13.860 Your superstition. 0.99

00:07:15.540 You're now some crazy, eco-apocalyptic millenarian or something. 0.98

00:07:20.920 Hey, do you think the CBC will do that same story for Ramadan or another Muslim holiday, though? 0.98

00:07:26.260 Ramadan isn't about religion.

00:07:28.360 It's about global warming.

00:07:30.900 Yeah, they'd get blowed up real good.

00:07:33.340 Anyways, you beat that anti-plastic drum long enough and people pick up the beat.

00:07:37.760 And look at this headline in Black Locks Reporter today, which, as you remember, Black Locks

00:07:42.160 Reporter, one of the few independent media left in the country that refused to take the

00:07:46.000 government bailout.

00:07:46.820 They're based in Ottawa, so they do great research on Ottawa.

00:07:49.100 I'm a paid subscriber to Black Locks.

00:07:50.620 I recommend them to you if you have the money.

00:07:53.560 Anyways, look at that story there.

00:07:56.800 Fed report eyes plastic tax.

00:08:00.820 And, um, they say, Parliament should consider a plastic tax, says in the Environment Canada

00:08:06.440 report.

00:08:06.900 Researchers caution the tax would cost consumers since plastics are found in almost every

00:08:12.260 manufactured product.

00:08:13.200 Yeah, don't tell that to Trudeau and McKenna.

00:08:16.360 They'll like that tax idea even more.

00:08:18.440 Anyway, so it's called an economic study of the Canadian plastics industry markets and

00:08:23.840 waste.

00:08:24.820 And as you can see, it is on Environment Canada Stationary.

00:08:28.040 You can see right at the bottom there.

00:08:29.680 And though they paid external, quote, experts to write it, this project was overseen, funded

00:08:35.300 and coordinated by Environment Canada, Environment and Climate Change Canada.

00:08:40.220 That's the government.

00:08:40.800 So this is the product of Catherine McKenna's fevered mind.

00:08:44.900 And I mean, I really do think she's going mad.

00:08:47.540 Remember this.

00:08:48.700 So let's talk about climate change for a second.

00:08:51.100 Who believes it's real?

00:08:53.880 Who believes in science?

00:08:57.200 We got a report last year that said we have 12 years to take serious climate action.

00:09:04.520 We are all in this together.

00:09:06.620 We need to act.

00:09:07.660 Now, I have read the entire plastics report.

00:09:12.880 It is 43 pages of content, plus all sorts of definitions and summaries and diagrams.

00:09:19.020 And as I read, I read it for you, people.

00:09:21.520 And do not read it.

00:09:22.860 Do not read it.

00:09:24.040 I could feel my mind slowly pickling like it was in a pickle jar.

00:09:29.520 I was slowly going crazy, reading so much crazy.

00:09:35.480 And I got to say, if all I did every day was to be immersed in that kind of crazy, I might start to sound like this.

00:09:44.980 So let's talk about climate change for a second.

00:09:48.060 Who believes it's real?

00:09:50.860 Who believes in science?

00:09:54.200 We got a report last year that said we have 12 years to take serious climate action.

00:10:01.160 I noticed there were plastic Liberal Party signs there.

00:10:05.600 I guess those are climate criminals.

00:10:07.620 Anyways, this 43-page report, this report that we paid who knows how much money to study a plastics tax, actually treated the idea seriously.

00:10:16.180 It's an insane idea, which is pretty much evident when you read the report.

00:10:19.680 Because plastics are so ubiquitous, it really is like taxing air, like taxing carbon.

00:10:26.080 And look at this here.

00:10:27.220 This is a chart from the report.

00:10:29.440 It shows.

00:10:30.660 Look at all the amount of plastics, packaging, construction.

00:10:35.020 I sort of forgot about how much plastic is in construction.

00:10:37.940 Automotives, that's a big user of it.

00:10:40.880 Electronics, of course.

00:10:41.920 It really would be like taxing air.

00:10:45.340 And the idea of recycling all these plastics is nuts, too.

00:10:49.140 And the report specifically says that.

00:10:50.960 Can I read you a paragraph from the report?

00:10:53.000 I know I'm quoting from the Book of Crazy here.

00:10:56.020 But that shouty cult leader demanded a report on taxing plastic and forcing people to recycle plastic.

00:11:01.440 Even though plastic is harmless, it's not toxic, it's not poisonous, it's fine.

00:11:07.020 We lick it.

00:11:08.420 We eat plastic cutlery and plastic plates. 0.89

00:11:11.960 But here, let me just quote for a paragraph from this report of Crazy.

00:11:16.420 Let me quote.

00:11:17.020 So, plastic collected but discarded.

00:11:21.480 In the automotive and white goods sector, e.g. large appliances such as fridges or stoves,

00:11:27.540 as well as small household appliances like a food processor, electric kettles.

00:11:31.760 Those are called white goods.

00:11:32.900 I didn't know that.

00:11:34.340 The recycling of plastic is almost non-existent.

00:11:37.760 Diversion rates are, however, very high.

00:11:41.220 One hundred percent for automotive.

00:11:44.400 Sixty-four percent for white goods.

00:11:47.540 As products are collected for recycling, however, they are usually sent to a shredder where only the material of interest,

00:11:53.760 generally the metal content, is sorted and sent to recyclers.

00:11:57.460 It is indeed more cost-effective and less labor-intensive to crush and shred vehicles or appliances for metal recycling than to dismantle parts, including plastic parts.

00:12:08.120 Now, that's a little bit of sane talk in a reporter.

00:12:12.260 Crazy.

00:12:12.960 You saw the chart, though.

00:12:14.280 Plastics in our fridges.

00:12:15.480 Plastics in cars.

00:12:16.300 It's a huge use of plastic.

00:12:17.840 And it is all diverted.

00:12:19.280 It's not dumped in the landfill.

00:12:21.660 You don't see cars in a landfill, do you?

00:12:23.960 But even these reporters, or this research, they were clear.

00:12:30.000 It takes so much effort and energy and manpower to recycle the plastic out of a fridge or a car.

00:12:36.440 No one does it.

00:12:37.240 You saw what they said.

00:12:38.000 It doesn't make any sense because it would be insane to try.

00:12:42.060 Or to put it in a way that you think an environmentalist might care about, it would take more energy, more resources to recycle it than you would save by recycling.

00:12:51.260 It would take more resources to recycle a fridge or a car than would be building a new one from scratch.

00:12:58.620 That's why you have to subsidize recycling to get it done.

00:13:01.920 It doesn't make sense, especially for things for which there is no shortage at all.

00:13:05.540 There is no need to recycle paper.

00:13:09.020 Trees are renewable.

00:13:11.220 Trees are so cheap.

00:13:12.620 It's so cheap to plant new ones and harvest new trees.

00:13:14.960 It makes no sense to recycle paper.

00:13:17.080 It takes more effort and energy and chemicals.

00:13:19.860 And by the way, just throw paper in the landfill.

00:13:22.840 It's biodegradable.

00:13:23.860 Just bury it.

00:13:26.200 Same with plastic.

00:13:27.360 It doesn't, you know, it's not biodegradable, but it's inert.

00:13:30.340 It's not going to poison anybody.

00:13:32.040 Why are you recycling plastic anyways?

00:13:34.400 It's not harmful in any way.

00:13:36.360 It's cheaper ecologically just to make new plastic.

00:13:41.240 The only thing that makes any sense to recycle is metal.

00:13:43.840 Because metal is worth enough.

00:13:46.600 Which is why you don't need to pay people to do something so common sense in environmental.

00:13:50.940 People will recycle metal and did long before the government came along.

00:13:54.680 Because it's a lot cheaper to recycle metal than mine more metal from the center of the earth.

00:13:59.020 I don't know if you remember, but until a year ago, did you know that Canada shipped most of our, quote, recycling to China?

00:14:08.120 Did you know that?

00:14:08.700 We literally paid to put trash on trains and trains to boats and send our trash around the world across the largest ocean, the Pacific, to China. 0.98

00:14:25.040 Toronto sent its garbage to China.

00:14:27.960 And we would close our eyes and ears and pretend we were recycling it. 0.97

00:14:32.660 As opposed to what, do you think China was really recycling it?

00:14:37.340 Or do you think it was just dumping it in a river or someplace? 0.99

00:14:41.140 But then, I don't know, for some reason about a year ago, China suddenly said, no, no, no, keep your crap. 0.98

00:14:45.960 They stopped taking our recycling. 0.93

00:14:47.520 So cities all across Canada started to warehouse it.

00:14:52.420 While we all kept sorting our garbage and our recyclables as if it was being recycled, it was being warehoused.

00:15:00.280 It was being stored.

00:15:02.380 Lots of government sector jobs involved in this whole BS.

00:15:07.220 Fake work, make work, lots of busy work.

00:15:09.980 It makes no sense to recycle financially.

00:15:12.140 It makes no sense environmentally.

00:15:15.080 Here's a story this week in the Philippines Star newspaper.

00:15:19.320 Duterte, that's their president over there. 1.00

00:15:21.420 Take back garbage or I will sail to Canada and dump trash. 0.99

00:15:26.420 I've just got to read this to you.

00:15:28.000 This is where our recycling is going.

00:15:30.020 Now, can I read a little bit about the garbage war that's looming with the Philippines? 1.00

00:15:33.960 President Duterte ordered the Customs Bureau to return to Canada the trash it sent to the Philippines a few years ago. 0.86

00:15:41.560 I guess they've just been holding on to it. 0.73

00:15:43.680 As he chided the North American country for supposedly turning Manila into a dump site.

00:15:49.320 Duterte said Tuesday that Canada should prepare a grand reception for its waste,

00:15:54.300 which arrived in the Philippines in 2013. 0.94

00:15:57.880 They've been holding our garbage for six years.

00:16:00.900 And here's what he said.

00:16:01.940 I want a boat prepared.

00:16:04.000 I'll give a warning to Canada.

00:16:05.440 Maybe next week.

00:16:06.440 They better pull that thing out or I will set sail.

00:16:09.660 They're in Canada. 1.00

00:16:10.440 I will dump their trash there. 1.00

00:16:12.060 Here, can I play a quick clip of this president of the Philippines, Rodrigo Duterte, declaring a garbage war against Justin Trudeau. 0.99

00:16:27.380 Take containers to a ship and advise Canada. 0.99

00:16:31.260 I will advise Canada that your garbage is on the way. 0.98

00:16:38.400 Prepare a grand reception. 1.00

00:16:40.920 Eat it if you want to.

00:16:42.480 How awesome is that?

00:16:46.160 I should warn the president of the Philippines.

00:16:49.980 He should know something about our country.

00:16:53.120 That when he sails it to the West Coast, he will encounter the city of Victoria,

00:16:59.460 which dumps its raw, untreated sewage right into the Pacific Ocean. 0.92

00:17:04.260 Untreated.

00:17:05.240 Try and get through that, Mr. Invader. 0.61

00:17:07.860 I got to say, why are we sending our garbage to the Philippines and you thought it was recycled?

00:17:13.680 They've been holding onto it for six years. 0.96

00:17:15.180 Anyways, this whole thing is nuts.

00:17:18.220 But can I get back to the new crazy part?

00:17:21.000 This report that Catherine McKenna commissioned?

00:17:24.300 So what's their plan?

00:17:25.660 Well, as always, the liberals want to do what they do.

00:17:28.440 They fine you and they ban things.

00:17:31.700 The word tax appeared 11 times in this document.

00:17:37.220 Like this, let me read this.

00:17:39.460 Set two, get everybody on board to collect all plastics.

00:17:43.000 Create sector-specific requirements for collection, e.g. extended producer responsibility, performance agreements.

00:17:49.860 Restrict disposal, e.g. landfill taxes or bans.

00:17:55.220 Require incentivized collection, e.g. industry targets, deposit refund.

00:17:59.640 Develop more consistent requirements and rules across Canada, e.g. common curbside recycling.

00:18:03.980 Improve public information on collection and recyclability.

00:18:07.580 Here comes the propaganda.

00:18:10.160 So they're going to ban plastics in the landfill.

00:18:13.300 Okay.

00:18:14.280 They're going to require people to pay a deposit for anything plastic.

00:18:18.080 You're going to get another curbside bucket.

00:18:19.640 How many do you have right now?

00:18:20.560 How many garbage cans do you have at home right now?

00:18:22.560 I'm guessing you got three.

00:18:23.780 I got three.

00:18:24.840 Because I live in the People's Republic of Toronto.

00:18:27.340 So you're going to get a fourth one.

00:18:28.320 And look at all this craziness.

00:18:30.980 I'm going to read a little more.

00:18:33.360 Introducing a right to repair.

00:18:36.540 A right.

00:18:37.180 Legal right.

00:18:38.540 That requires manufacturers to provide repair information, tools, and replacement parts to independent repair shops as well as product owners.

00:18:45.660 Oh, okay.

00:18:46.400 I guess things aren't hard enough to be a manufacturer in Canada.

00:18:49.260 Now there is a legal right to repair.

00:18:51.500 If something you have that goes wrong, well, the factory now has a legal obligation to repair it for you.

00:18:57.740 Look, plastic is durable and amazing.

00:18:59.580 It needs repair less than most other materials.

00:19:02.000 But now you're going to have lawyers suing manufacturers because you have a completely new, made-up, legal right to have your stuff repaired.

00:19:10.360 Last factory out of Ontario.

00:19:12.400 Please turn off the lights.

00:19:14.000 There was so much crazy in this report.

00:19:16.560 My head started hurting.

00:19:17.860 It's like someone said, hey, write a 43-page report about how we would go about taxing.

00:19:23.280 I don't know. 0.99

00:19:23.700 What's the dumbest thing I could do? 1.00

00:19:25.140 Taxing smiles. 1.00

00:19:27.000 Smiles.

00:19:27.560 That's right.

00:19:27.860 If you're smiling. 0.99

00:19:28.980 Just something so weird and dumb, like a silly children's book story about the evil king who taxed smiles or something. 0.99

00:19:36.040 But actually telling a group of economists and bureaucrats, can you write a study about this? 0.98

00:19:42.160 And they'd say, yeah, if you pay us enough, we'll actually draft a plan to tax smiles or whatever. 0.93

00:19:51.380 I know that's a stupid comparison, but I really can't come up with anything as dumb because they've already decided to tax air or at least carbon dioxide. 0.97

00:20:01.160 So I got nothing. 0.99

00:20:02.160 I got nothing.

00:20:04.200 Look, the whole thing is a lie.

00:20:05.560 Here's a story in Scientific American.

00:20:08.640 Stemming the plastic tide, 10 rivers contribute most of the plastic in the oceans.

00:20:15.620 And I don't know if you guys can scroll down there, but the Yangtze River alone pours up to an estimate.

00:20:21.380 This is the sub-headline there.

00:20:22.940 Yeah, look at that.

00:20:23.940 The Yangtze River alone pours an estimated 1.5 million tons of plastic into the Yellow Sea.

00:20:30.080 Look at that.

00:20:31.320 Look at that.

00:20:32.260 Look at that.

00:20:33.380 Look at that.

00:20:35.560 Look at those pictures. 0.99

00:20:37.580 And that's not the crap we ship there. 1.00

00:20:40.240 That's their own crap. 1.00

00:20:42.240 So this isn't Canada exporting our crap. 1.00

00:20:44.860 It's a China problem. 1.00

00:20:45.720 It's an India problem. 1.00

00:20:46.620 It's a third world problem.

00:20:48.380 We don't need to punish Canadians by banning straws here.

00:20:53.500 So the problem of air or carbon dioxide is also not a Canadian problem.

00:20:59.060 We emit 2% of the world's man-made carbon dioxide in Canada.

00:21:02.860 China is by far the world's biggest, bigger than any other country.

00:21:06.980 But we're taxing and punishing Canadians with a carbon tax to solve really a Chinese issue that isn't even a real problem. 0.87

00:21:13.060 Carbon dioxide, that is. 0.97

00:21:14.180 Now, garbage is a real problem.

00:21:15.740 That frankly, if we stop wasting all this money and effort on solar panels and wind turbines, maybe we actually have some money to solve the garbage problem if we really cared about the real environment.

00:21:25.660 That was a crazy picture there.

00:21:26.880 So yeah, a plastics tax.

00:21:28.800 And I don't see it being adopted in the liberal platform in the election this fall.

00:21:32.600 But for 2023, yeah, probably.

00:21:38.300 Stay with us for more.

00:21:53.280 Welcome back.

00:21:54.120 Well, we have covered the heck out of the Alberta election a couple of weeks ago.

00:21:57.100 But guess what?

00:21:58.220 Prince Edward Island had an election, too.

00:22:00.480 And lo and behold, the littlest province voted conservative.

00:22:04.580 At least it looks like it'll be a conservative minority government.

00:22:07.480 Those decisions are not made by voters, actually, but by the lieutenant governor of a province.

00:22:12.740 But it looks like a conservative minority in Prince Edward Island.

00:22:16.420 A little province I always thought was perpetually liberal.

00:22:19.900 My gosh, it's almost as if Justin Trudeau is killing the liberal brand.

00:22:25.640 And at least that's what it looks like from coast to coast, what used to be a swath of red.

00:22:31.080 There's only, I think, two provinces left that are liberal.

00:22:33.600 Joining us now in studio here in Rebel World Headquarters is our reporter, Kian Bextie, who covered the Alberta election so well with Sheila Gunn-Reed.

00:22:41.020 Great to see you, Kian.

00:22:41.660 Welcome to Toronto.

00:22:42.940 I welcome you here to Rebel World Headquarters, but we certainly have been fighting the fight out there in Alberta.

00:22:48.780 What do you make of Prince Edward Island going conservative?

00:22:51.720 Well, I would attribute it mainly to the surge in the green vote.

00:22:56.320 I think that the left-wing voters in PEI are so disenfranchised with the liberal brand that the liberals came in third place.

00:23:05.780 That's unbelievable to me.

00:23:07.220 Oh, it's crazy.

00:23:08.280 And the Green Party is doing so well.

00:23:10.180 And they did historically well because they've, I don't even know if they've ever formed opposition before.

00:23:15.860 I can't think of a case where they would have.

00:23:18.060 Now, excuse me, is the Green Party in Prince Edward Island, I know you've been doing some, I mean, I got to tell you, everyone loves Prince Edward Island.

00:23:26.180 It's so small.

00:23:27.440 And you have to make a point of going there.

00:23:29.460 It's not like you passed through wit.

00:23:30.740 I acknowledge that we at the Rebel haven't given it a lot of attention in our time.

00:23:37.320 And you're a Western boy, but give me your thoughts on the Green Party itself.

00:23:42.340 Were people voting for its greenness or its anybody but the liberals-ness?

00:23:48.380 I'm going to go with the latter.

00:23:49.940 I think it is an anybody but the liberals situation there.

00:23:53.680 And I might even end up going there soon to ask the folks there why they're so disenfranchised with the liberals.

00:24:01.280 And we're seeing it not just in PEI but New Brunswick.

00:24:04.620 They elected the Progressive Conservatives with a coalition with an even farther right-wing party.

00:24:10.600 I was delighted to see in Alberta the liberals got, what, was it 1% of the vote?

00:24:14.400 Oh, it was minuscule.

00:24:15.820 I think it really, I'm not saying, I'm not joking.

00:24:17.760 I think it was actually 1%.

00:24:18.900 There's no, any voter in Alberta who's voting liberal is probably doing it by accident.

00:24:24.880 Or they may be in jail.

00:24:26.720 I think, do criminals have the right to vote in Canada?

00:24:29.100 I think they do.

00:24:30.180 So that's who that 1% would be.

00:24:32.320 Yeah.

00:24:32.620 Well, David Kahn, the leader of the Liberal Party in Alberta, he came in third place in his own riding way.

00:24:36.940 That's too high for me.

00:24:38.100 That's too close for comfort for me.

00:24:41.360 We will not be satisfied until there's no liberals on the ballot.

00:24:44.620 Well, I think it's amazing because the liberals used to boast that this percentage of Canadians

00:24:51.160 live under a premium that supports a carbon tax or something like that.

00:24:55.300 BC has a carbon tax and they're paying some of the highest gas prices in the free world.

00:24:59.980 Well, that's not true.

00:25:00.680 Europe is worse, but certainly the highest on the continent.

00:25:03.240 Alberta just turned conservative.

00:25:05.660 Saskatchewan's conservative.

00:25:06.620 Manitoba's conservative.

00:25:08.200 Ontario is Doug Ford conservative.

00:25:10.240 He ran on the carbon tax fighting against it.

00:25:13.160 Quebec, they're a little bit green, but the party is blue, Francois Legault.

00:25:20.440 It's not a lot of liberal red left.

00:25:23.600 I mean, I guess the pendulum swings back and forth.

00:25:26.120 I wonder how much of it is ideology and how much of it is people just tired of Trudeau.

00:25:30.500 Well, they're tired of the gaffes, you know, from India all the way to SNC-Lavalin.

00:25:34.720 They're tired.

00:25:35.380 And we're going to see what's going to happen in Newfoundland and Labrador because their election

00:25:40.180 is coming up in May.

00:25:40.880 The tides are changing in the Maritimes, I think, because it's not just provincially

00:25:46.740 that they elected liberals historically.

00:25:49.580 The last federal election was a liberal sweep.

00:25:51.620 Liberal sweep of the Atlantic.

00:25:53.460 I think that people do punish a federal leader provincially.

00:25:59.020 They also sometimes understand instinctively it's good to have split government.

00:26:03.520 It's a form of a check and balance.

00:26:05.040 We don't have as many checks and balances in our governing system as the Americans do. 0.96

00:26:09.820 I mean, that whole Mueller escapade, which I think a lot of our viewers and I certainly

00:26:13.740 thought was a wild goose chase, a witch hunt as Trump calls it, that's all true. 1.00

00:26:18.340 But it shows that there are natural checks and balance on even the most powerful man in

00:26:23.940 the world.

00:26:25.120 In Canada, we don't have that.

00:26:26.560 Like, there ought to be a special inquiry into the SNC-Lavalin corruption.

00:26:31.180 It's so clearly corrupt there won't be in Canada.

00:26:34.360 So I think organically, intuitively, Canadians say, all right, well, if you're out of control,

00:26:40.080 Justin Trudeau and your liberals, maybe it's good to have some counterweights called Jason

00:26:44.160 Kenny, Doug Ford, and other provincial premiers.

00:26:47.580 Maybe that's a natural reaction to not having proper structures in place to hold Trudeau and

00:26:53.300 other leaders to account.

00:26:54.440 Well, it could be.

00:26:55.060 But this is historic.

00:26:57.020 Well, at least in my lifetime, there's never been a situation where this many conservatives

00:27:01.220 hold this much provincial clout.

00:27:03.040 It's from Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, and now PEI.

00:27:10.640 None of it and the Northwest Territories are consensus governments, so they don't really count.

00:27:14.800 And I guess you could count UConn as a liberal government.

00:27:17.440 But this seven government coalition, almost, of conservatives puts us in a really unique

00:27:23.680 situation where we could even start seeing constitutional amendments that we haven't

00:27:28.760 seen in decades.

00:27:29.940 I saw you mention that.

00:27:31.900 I can't think of any constitutional amendment for which there's a public appetite right now.

00:27:37.180 Maybe not.

00:27:37.560 What would you think of?

00:27:39.080 I mean, yes, theoretically, the numbers are there, but I just would be surprised to see

00:27:43.980 it.

00:27:44.460 Well, it's enshrining property.

00:27:46.160 And again, I'm from Alberta.

00:27:47.580 That's where I live and breathe.

00:27:48.900 And that's the people I talk to.

00:27:51.040 Albertans have an appetite for property rights, enshrining them in our Constitution.

00:27:54.980 We've had a few cases in both Saskatchewan and Alberta where farmers have been defending

00:27:59.500 their property from thieves.

00:28:01.000 And they've been drugged through the courts because Canadians do not have the right to enjoy 1.00

00:28:08.440 their property exclusively and maintain that right separate from government.

00:28:12.500 And I think Albertans are frustrated with that.

00:28:15.280 Maybe Quebecers aren't. 0.99

00:28:16.540 Maybe people in New Brunswick aren't.

00:28:18.420 But these are conversations I think conservatives should be having because we have a unique

00:28:22.080 opportunity here, one we might not have again.

00:28:23.880 Yeah, it's very interesting.

00:28:24.920 I didn't think of it that way.

00:28:26.120 Well, listen, I thought you did a great job in Alberta crisscrossing the province and

00:28:29.900 Sheila Gunn-Reed, too.

00:28:31.380 And, you know, there are 10 provinces, three territories, and a federal election coming.

00:28:35.920 And so hopefully we'll maybe put you on the road.

00:28:38.200 I mean, Alberta's your home, but I think the kind of approach you took to covering that

00:28:43.360 election was very interesting.

00:28:44.940 I like the style of really hunting down Anne McGrath and Calgary Varsity.

00:28:49.000 I thought that was a real win.

00:28:50.180 We did some activism with our lawn signs there, too.

00:28:52.480 I think what we did in Alberta, I'd love to replicate elsewhere in the country, and maybe

00:28:55.760 you'd be up for some of those missions.

00:28:57.200 Yeah, I would love to.

00:28:57.900 I'm super interested in NBC right now and going to Vancouver to talk to them about their gas

00:29:03.840 prices.

00:29:04.580 They're crazy.

00:29:05.120 Yeah, I think I saw a picture of a gas pump.

00:29:08.800 I think it was $2.

00:29:10.020 I think I saw a premium blend at hitting the $2 mark.

00:29:16.360 That is insane.

00:29:17.120 But that is what a carbon tax promises to do.

00:29:19.620 It's supposed to make using carbon so painful that you make better choices.

00:29:23.180 I wonder who they blame.

00:29:24.320 I wonder who, do they blame John Horgan more for not standing up against Justin Trudeau?

00:29:28.820 Do they blame Justin Trudeau personally?

00:29:31.020 Or, you know, I don't know.

00:29:32.080 Well, there's special taxes in the city of Vancouver, and of course, they have their own

00:29:35.400 carbon tax.

00:29:36.100 I think they have to blame themselves.

00:29:37.800 And really, who did the voters choose?

00:29:39.580 Well, Kean, it's great to see you here in Toronto, and good luck on your journeys.

00:29:42.300 All right, stay with us.

00:29:43.460 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:29:44.100 Hey, welcome back.

00:29:55.840 On my monologue yesterday about the CBC producer lashing out at the nobodies who complained

00:30:00.380 about Omar Khadr's Easter Sunday TV appearance, Henry writes, 0.97

00:30:03.760 Why exactly is the taxpayer forced to fund the CBC for this kind of garbage? 0.96

00:30:09.760 Well, that's a good question. 0.97

00:30:11.540 It's a question that we could put to Justin Trudeau, but it's a question we could have

00:30:15.380 put to Stephen Harper for nine years, too, isn't it?

00:30:18.040 And it's a question we should put to Andrew Scheer, because if he becomes prime minister

00:30:21.560 in this fall, which is now a possibility, I wouldn't have thought so six months ago,

00:30:25.520 but it's a possibility now.

00:30:27.720 You think he's going to do anything to rein them in?

00:30:30.340 Do you really think so?

00:30:32.400 He has never said he would.

00:30:33.700 Michael writes, If the money is really for all Canadians, maybe he should pass some of

00:30:39.980 it around.

00:30:40.540 Yeah, it's actually not for all Canadians.

00:30:44.800 It's from all Canadians.

00:30:46.140 Maybe he just misspoke.

00:30:47.660 But you know who has a claim to it is Tabitha Speer and Lane Morris, who sued Omar Khadr and

00:30:52.520 actually have a judgment in an American court for damages.

00:30:56.040 He murdered Tabitha Speer's husband and blinded Lane Morris in one eye.

00:30:59.360 But Trudeau literally colluded with Omar Khadr's lawyers to hide the money from those lawsuits.

00:31:06.540 On my interview with Lauren Gunter, Bruce writes,

00:31:09.980 If I were Kenny, I'd shut off the flow of gas to BC and shut off the flow of money to Quebec.

00:31:14.560 Yeah, you know, I saw a picture today of a gas pump in BC for the premium blend for two bucks.

00:31:23.760 Two bucks a liter.

00:31:24.660 Here, you shut off the oil to that in the existing Trans Mountain pipeline.

00:31:30.780 You just cut it off at the source.

00:31:33.020 And the government of Alberta has that constitutional jurisdiction to do that.

00:31:37.980 You're going to have $5, $10, $20 gas.

00:31:40.520 More to the point, you're going to have no gas.

00:31:42.980 You'll just shut it off.

00:31:44.700 And isn't that really what Justin Trudeau and the premier of BC want?

00:31:50.260 They want a high carbon price to make you make better choices.

00:31:53.220 Well, let's help them make the choice.

00:31:54.840 Now, I think that most British Columbians don't go along with this BS.

00:31:59.940 I've seen every single poll I've ever seen on pipelines shows that British Columbians will support a pipeline if it's just up to standards.

00:32:07.960 I've never seen a single poll showing that more British Columbians oppose pipelines in support.

00:32:12.920 Have you?

00:32:14.040 Well, folks, that's the show for today.

00:32:15.520 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here, good night.

00:32:19.200 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:32:20.180 Thank you.

00:32:20.620 Thank you.

00:32:22.200 Thanks for listening.

00:32:23.140 Good night.

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Rebel News Podcast - April 25, 2019

Get ready for Justin Trudeau’s new tax — on plastic

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