Rebel News Podcast - October 01, 2020


It's getting worse： They’re taking us back into lockdowns.

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A pregnant woman in Victoria, Australia, had her home invaded by police after she made a post on social media about a lockdown in a farmer's market. She was arrested and taken into custody even though she had an ultrasound appointment in an hour.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I take a quick tour around the Commonwealth, our friends, our cultural
00:00:04.920 similars, our comparators, Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, places that are pretty much
00:00:11.460 like us. And I show you the worst of the pandemic, illiberal reactions. And I ask you,
00:00:18.960 how long before they're here? But it's sort of a trick question, because I show you
00:00:23.780 every one of the things I point to overseas has already here begun. Before I let you listen to
00:00:30.980 that, let me invite you to become a subscriber to what we call Rebel News Plus. I'm going to show you
00:00:36.340 some videos. Of course, you'll hear those. You'll sort of be able to understand them. But I'm going
00:00:42.960 to show you what happened in an Australian farmer's market. I want you to see it with your eyes. And
00:00:47.780 to do that, just join Rebel News Plus. Get the video version of this podcast. I do it every
00:00:53.760 every day, five times a week. My friend Sheila Gunn-Reed and David Menzies, they do a weekly
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00:01:10.320 subscribe. All right, here's today's podcast.
00:01:23.760 Tonight, it's getting worse. They're taking us back into lockdowns. I'll give you a quick
00:01:32.220 update. It's September 30th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:37.280 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:40.780 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have
00:01:46.040 to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:55.760 I follow the news from around the world because I'm interested in the world and because these
00:01:59.360 days we have similar problems everywhere and it's interesting to compare solutions or problems
00:02:05.700 or, I don't know, it's a warning, a canary in the coal mine would happen somewhere else
00:02:09.720 like Australia and the United Kingdom can happen here very quickly. You've probably seen this
00:02:14.400 footage of a pregnant mum in the Australian state of Victoria. Police burst into her home
00:02:19.920 with an actual search warrant, which means an actual judge signed off on this and the police
00:02:26.380 arrested her. They handcuffed her. They were saying they came to take her away even though she's
00:02:32.380 visibly pregnant, has an ultrasound appointment in an hour, and all of this, why? Did she commit 0.99
00:02:38.000 a murder? No. She posted a Facebook post about a peaceful protest against the lockdown, as in
00:02:44.660 she had her home invaded by paramilitary police because she made a Facebook post about the risk
00:02:52.000 of having her home invaded by paramilitary police.
00:02:55.080 Yeah, you can show me your search warrant before you go through my house.
00:03:00.700 Yeah, I own his house. Yeah, it's a search warrant.
00:03:06.320 Search warrant for what? Now, what I want to explain to you is, if you want to listen, you've got your phone going.
00:03:12.320 Yeah, I do, yeah. Right. Now, you're under arrest in relation to incitement.
00:03:16.320 Incitement? Yeah, but you're not obliged to say I do anything, but anything you say I do may be given in evidence.
00:03:22.320 Excuse me, incitement for what? What on earth? Excuse me, what on earth?
00:03:27.980 Just put your phone down. Can you, like, report this? I'm in my pyjamas.
00:03:31.460 What's this? I had an ultrasound in an hour because I'm pregnant.
00:03:33.400 Yeah, she's pregnant, so... 1.00
00:03:35.320 I'll take it easy. What's this about?
00:03:37.540 If I had an ultrasound in an hour.
00:03:40.060 Let me finish and I'll explain. It's in relation to a Facebook post, in relation to a lockdown protest you put on for Saturday.
00:03:47.460 Yeah, and I wasn't breaking any laws by doing that.
00:03:50.020 You are, actually. You are breaking all. That's why I'm arresting you. In relation to incitement.
00:03:53.720 How can you arrest her? That's...
00:03:55.220 In front of my two children.
00:03:56.420 Yeah, that's insane. But those crazy Australians, I mean, that couldn't happen here, could it? 1.00
00:04:02.000 Well, let me use the past tense because it has happened here in a less robust way, but it happened. 0.93
00:04:07.240 I don't want to let the air out of the balloon on this story because we're about to do a full news report on it in the days ahead.
00:04:12.120 But here's an RCMP officer going to the home of a private citizen, going to his home in a police car, wearing a police uniform, holstering a police gun to talk to him about his Facebook posts about the pandemic measures.
00:04:26.720 You know, I like the idea of police going in a friendly way to visit people who, you know, there's rumors they might be committing a crime, a grow-up.
00:04:34.780 Did someone hear gunshots? God forbid.
00:04:36.980 You hear the sounds of a man hitting a woman, God forbid.
00:04:41.280 Did you have some evidence of a crime that maybe a friendly drive over in chat might head off or might detect?
00:04:47.540 I love that. Call that community policing in a way.
00:04:49.820 But there was no underlying crime here, either proven or suspected.
00:04:54.880 It was just some guy writing about pandemic politics.
00:04:59.140 And Justin Trudeau's RCMP thought they needed a bit of a scare.
00:05:04.140 Why are you here?
00:05:05.060 So, like I told you, okay, we just posted something on Facebook.
00:05:09.420 And I just want to see, should I have any concern about what you post on Facebook?
00:05:13.300 You should have no concern about what I post on Facebook.
00:05:15.280 This is a free country.
00:05:16.740 Yeah, that's right. That's right.
00:05:17.920 That's right.
00:05:18.380 I just want to talk to you.
00:05:19.000 I'm not going to be here today.
00:05:20.820 I'm just here to talk to you.
00:05:22.080 I don't understand why you're here for anything that's posted on Facebook.
00:05:25.040 Why don't you go talk to Mark Zuckerberg?
00:05:26.880 Pardon me?
00:05:27.340 Go talk to Mark Zuckerberg.
00:05:29.080 You got a problem with something on Facebook. 0.97
00:05:30.980 This is ridiculous. 0.73
00:05:32.140 I just want to. 0.55
00:05:33.080 I just want to talk to you for a sec.
00:05:34.440 I don't want to talk or even entertain this. 0.98
00:05:37.180 This is ridiculous. 0.99
00:05:39.640 Go find a crime, you guys. 0.99
00:05:41.400 Go do something.
00:05:42.280 Sounds good.
00:05:43.120 Oh, yeah.
00:05:43.500 Thank you very much.
00:05:45.180 Yeah, thank you very much.
00:05:50.060 We'll tell you more about that story later.
00:05:51.680 But do you see what I mean?
00:05:53.060 Less than a month for that idea to move from Australia to Canada.
00:05:56.620 Here's another idea.
00:05:57.440 This one from New Zealand.
00:05:58.820 I've shown you this before.
00:06:00.060 Locking people up indefinitely.
00:06:01.620 Not because they have the virus.
00:06:03.340 But because they don't want to be tested.
00:06:05.000 They don't have any symptoms.
00:06:06.680 They're not unhealthy.
00:06:07.420 But the government really, really, really wants them to stick a rod up their nose to take a sample and then get it tested and get a result in a few days, a test that has up to 50% false positives.
00:06:20.480 That is according to Ontario's deputy public health officer.
00:06:23.400 Let me just prove that to you for a moment.
00:06:25.140 You know, I think a lot of people think that testing is going to really solve the whole problem.
00:06:34.140 And it isn't.
00:06:35.620 It's one component of a response.
00:06:38.760 If you test somebody today, you only know if they're infected today.
00:06:45.480 And in fact, if you're testing in a population that doesn't have very much COVID, you'll get false positives almost half the time.
00:06:53.920 Okay, so in New Zealand, you're completely healthy, no symptoms, and you don't want to take a test.
00:06:59.460 Well, then you'll be held in a new pandemic prison in perpetuity.
00:07:04.420 No hearing, no trial, no habeas corpus, no getting out on bail or parole.
00:07:08.080 Just forever until you comply.
00:07:11.040 Here's the ghoulish prime minister literally laughing about that.
00:07:15.080 You said I wanted to, I've got a number of questions about people refuse, you know, what do we do if someone refuses to be tested?
00:07:24.520 Well, they can't now.
00:07:26.100 If someone refuses in our facilities to be tested, they have to keep staying.
00:07:32.340 So they won't be able to leave after 14 days.
00:07:34.960 They have to stay on for another 14 days.
00:07:37.140 So it's a pretty good incentive.
00:07:39.040 You either get your tests done and make sure you're cleared, or we will keep you in a facility longer.
00:07:44.700 So I think most people will look at that and say, I'll take the test. 0.98
00:07:48.740 What a creepy, deathly, sickly monster she is. 1.00
00:07:52.320 Laughing about that, but hey, that would never happen here, right? 0.97
00:07:55.860 Yeah, again, it already has, past tense.
00:07:57.700 Here's a video translated from French into English by David Freiheit.
00:08:01.020 He has a popular YouTube channel called Viva Frey.
00:08:05.000 I really recommend you visit it.
00:08:07.240 He's a recovering lawyer, so he has lots of good legal analysis.
00:08:10.980 I'll play for you a clip from this video.
00:08:13.900 David himself translated this.
00:08:15.540 Have you seen this on the CBC?
00:08:17.920 By the way, please consider subscribing to David's YouTube channel.
00:08:20.880 It's free.
00:08:21.500 Here, take a look.
00:08:22.080 Dr. Girard, avant de terminer, il y a une journaliste qui ne pouvait pas être présente ici,
00:08:26.340 qui demande brièvement, est-ce que des ordonnances ont été émises à l'endroit des clients récalcitrants?
00:08:33.200 Yes.
00:08:34.420 Merci, Dr. Girard.
00:08:35.600 Est-ce que ça peut être une phrase complète en français?
00:08:38.460 Oui.
00:08:39.720 L'ordonnance concernait justement deux personnes qui ne collaboraient pas.
00:08:45.520 Et on trouve que c'est formidable de pouvoir finalement utiliser ce levier-là.
00:08:52.760 Vous savez, avant, si on n'était pas en urgence sanitaire, le directeur de santé publique peut utiliser ce pouvoir pendant 72 heures,
00:09:00.280 en attendant qu'un juge finalement confirme l'ordonnance.
00:09:05.040 Dans le cas de la COVID-19, nous avons la possibilité d'isoler quelqu'un pendant 14 jours.
00:09:10.100 Et c'est ce que nous avons fait ce matin, et c'est ce que nous avons déjà fait dans le passé.
00:09:16.560 Et on a aussi, comme on l'a fait ce matin, obligé une personne à collaborer à l'enquête.
00:09:21.680 Et on l'avait déjà fait dans le passé, avec succès, et avec une collaboration extraordinaire des corps policiers.
00:09:29.260 Merci à tout le monde pour passer une bonne fin de journée.
00:09:31.380 Merci.
00:09:32.220 Merci.
00:09:33.340 Merci beaucoup, Dr. Girard.
00:09:34.780 Quand vous avez donné quelqu'un pendant 14 jours à rester chez eux, là, c'est pas chez eux que ça se passe.
00:09:39.760 14 jours, là, le séjour, c'est à la prison de la Vogueuse, et puis, là, c'est une famille de détention.
00:09:45.220 Est-ce que vous avez l'impression d'être dans une prison?
00:09:49.920 Parce que, c'est ça, souvent, ce qu'on fait, c'est que c'est un endroit.
00:09:54.560 Nous, comme on est, le CIUSSS, en fait, a la possibilité d'offrir, justement, des isolements préventifs.
00:10:03.480 Ça se passe, ça se passe, finalement.
00:10:06.200 C'est une disposition qui est beaucoup plus facile quand on a quelqu'un qui ne collabore pas, puis ça devient vraiment complexe.
00:10:13.320 La personne s'est surveillée, mais elle est en isolement, exactement où ça peut être nécessaire.
00:10:18.140 C'est pas nécessaire.
00:10:19.480 C'est ça.
00:10:20.340 Mais est-ce que...
00:10:21.300 C'est pas la...
00:10:22.060 C'est pas la...
00:10:22.660 C'est pas la...
00:10:23.280 Bien, ça dépend de la personne.
00:10:24.880 OK.
00:10:25.120 Parce qu'on a eu des personnes qu'on a isolées chez eux.
00:10:30.260 À un moment donné, la personne, on voyait bien qu'elle n'était pas chez elle.
00:10:34.320 On lui a fait...
00:10:35.060 Donc, on est allé chez elle.
00:10:36.800 Et là, on lui a dit...
00:10:38.220 On vous isole là où on veut que vous soyez, où vous observez la règle.
00:10:44.520 Et il a observé la règle.
00:10:46.380 Donc, vous voyez, ça dépend des cas.
00:10:47.680 Oui, c'est ça.
00:10:55.720 C'est une ordonnance, en fait, où les deux personnes, parce que l'ordonnance, on la transmet aux policiers.
00:11:02.900 Donc, oui.
00:11:03.980 On peut faire sur une ordonnance, on peut identifier plusieurs personnes.
00:11:07.300 Ça fait que ça dépend.
00:11:07.860 Là, ça s'adonne.
00:11:08.580 C'est la première fois qu'on fait ça.
00:11:10.560 Généralement, c'est une ordonnance, une personne, là, qui est récalcitante, là, qui ne coopère pas.
00:11:15.240 OK. Donc, il y a deux ordonnances, puis une pour collaborer à l'enquête, puis l'autre pour rester à la maison.
00:11:20.820 Oui. C'est une disposition légale émise par l'ordonnance qui nous permet, justement, d'obliger ces personnes-là contre leur gré.
00:11:30.280 Il faut bien le dire, c'est ça, mais dans l'intérêt public.
00:11:34.260 Mais c'est une autre sujet.
00:11:36.140 Pardon?
00:11:36.900 On préférerait sortir de ça.
00:11:38.220 C'est une ordonnance dans laquelle on a, oui, parce que c'est une technicalité, là, de juridique, là, que vous ne demandez-moi pas de l'expliquer, là.
00:11:47.580 C'est les avocats qui gèrent ça, là, mais on sait que ça se passe.
00:11:50.820 Oh, so they just plain old arrest people who were at a bar.
00:12:00.500 Again, no symptoms.
00:12:02.260 Just out at a bar.
00:12:04.580 Won't stop going to bars, so put them in jail.
00:12:07.080 No trial, no hearing.
00:12:08.300 No appeal, no parole, no bail.
00:12:10.780 Just some doctor with the power of a tyrant.
00:12:13.040 Putting people in secret holding facilities, as long as they want.
00:12:18.040 And the gentle laughter under it, just like Jacinda Ardern, just laughing in New Zealand.
00:12:23.120 So, yeah, that's coming here.
00:12:24.880 It's here already.
00:12:26.160 And I told you yesterday about how various governments are now blacklisting and deplatforming and boycotting a Quebec city radio station that dares to criticize that government's out-of-control lockdowns.
00:12:37.180 They're back in lockdowns. 0.73
00:12:38.820 Quebec is insane. 0.55
00:12:40.560 They're out of control. 0.91
00:12:41.760 Take a look at this story here.
00:12:44.060 Montreal restaurateurs in shock after provincial government orders 28-day closure.
00:12:49.080 I've got to read you the details.
00:12:50.160 That's even crazier.
00:12:51.180 Look at this.
00:12:53.140 Montreal restaurateurs say they don't understand why the provincial government is ordering their businesses to close, even though there have been no COVID-19 outbreaks tied to the city's famed restaurant industry.
00:13:05.220 On Monday, authorities moved Montreal and Quebec City to the highest COVID-19 alert level.
00:13:11.760 Banning private indoor gatherings and shutting bars, cinemas, and restaurant dining rooms for 28 days.
00:13:18.460 Well, I mean, who cares about you?
00:13:21.340 Well, the ruling class is in charge. 0.57
00:13:23.580 Not one of them lost a day's wages.
00:13:25.780 Did any politicians or lawyers or bureaucrats lose work?
00:13:29.500 Well, of course, many in the ruling class had a six-month paid vacation without the work, but they got paid.
00:13:35.960 Teachers unions are aching to shut down their schools.
00:13:38.600 They'll still get paid either way.
00:13:39.960 They prefer to be paid to sit at home watching Netflix.
00:13:43.180 Not one single child in our country has died from the virus.
00:13:47.820 But that's a small detail.
00:13:49.320 The teachers don't want to teach, but they want to be paid.
00:13:51.620 We were told constantly about our saintly doctors and nurses.
00:13:55.320 Yes, thank you very much for working.
00:13:57.560 And at some risk, I acknowledge, as there always is in a hospital, but most hospitals in Canada were empty and are still partly empty.
00:14:05.740 There was never a surge in cases.
00:14:07.800 In Ontario, each virus patient has two hospitals themselves.
00:14:11.380 That's why hundreds of doctors and nurses killed time by making these execrable TikTok videos of themselves dancing and lip-singing and getting paid.
00:14:22.340 Too bad, so sad for you restauranteurs and waitresses and bartenders.
00:14:25.920 Why don't you make some TikTok videos?
00:14:28.580 At least Quebec is honest. 1.00
00:14:30.440 They just hate working people.
00:14:32.080 But in the United Kingdom, they have the most bizarre rules that change in the dead of night.
00:14:37.160 Bars have to close at 10 p.m. or is it 9 p.m. now?
00:14:40.480 Not 10.30 p.m.
00:14:42.180 Because the virus knows what time it is.
00:14:45.200 Here's a new one.
00:14:46.020 I'm not making this up.
00:14:47.280 I swear, look at it yourself.
00:14:49.520 This law was passed last night at midnight, so technically this very morning.
00:14:56.460 No one in Parliament read it, let alone voted on it.
00:14:59.060 They weren't showing it until it was the law at midnight or 12.01.
00:15:03.060 It's so absurd.
00:15:04.180 Ten pages of detailed lawyerly rules.
00:15:08.040 Do you think the police know these rules?
00:15:10.300 They were only issued last night at midnight.
00:15:12.460 Let me read you just one section. 1.00
00:15:14.280 Perhaps the dumbest, but it's a real contest for the dumbest part. 0.99
00:15:17.260 I'm going to read about a solid minute's worth of verbiage. 0.99
00:15:20.680 Not to bore you, but to show you how impenetrable the language is.
00:15:25.080 Tell me that any citizen or bar or restaurant could understand this,
00:15:27.920 let alone a cop trying to enforce this law.
00:15:30.540 Tell me there's a jot of science behind this.
00:15:33.120 It's a ban on singing.
00:15:36.740 I swear to God.
00:15:38.380 By the way, N-E-N-W stands for the Northeast and Northwest of England.
00:15:42.280 Here's from the law.
00:15:43.100 A. Singing on the premises by customers.
00:15:47.900 A. In groups of more than six, where the premises are located in an area which is not part of the protected area for the purposes of the Northeast and Northwest regulations,
00:15:57.660 unless one of the exceptions in Regulation 5 of the principal regulations applies,
00:16:02.920 or two, where the premises are located in an area which is a protected area for the purpose of the Northeast and Northwest regulations,
00:16:09.320 A. In groups of more than six, where the group is located outdoors,
00:16:13.540 unless one of the exceptions in Regulation 5 of the principal regulations applies,
00:16:16.940 or B. B. B. in groups of two or more persons,
00:16:20.300 where the group is located indoors,
00:16:22.420 unless one of the exemptions in Regulation 6B or 6E of the Northeast and Northwest regulations applies,
00:16:27.820 or...
00:16:29.500 Do you understand any of that?
00:16:34.560 Well, you'd better.
00:16:36.360 You'll get a 10,000 pound fine if you don't.
00:16:39.460 Do you understand a word of that other than singing is now banned?
00:16:43.220 Now, how loud is singing, by the way?
00:16:46.720 What qualifies as singing?
00:16:48.860 And does that apply to rapping as well, or talking loud?
00:16:53.940 What if I whisper a song?
00:16:55.980 Can I...
00:16:56.500 Can I hum?
00:16:58.800 Is la-la-la considered singing, even if that's not really a word?
00:17:01.740 How about the anthem?
00:17:03.620 Can you sing the anthem?
00:17:05.420 If I'm in my own group of people at a pub,
00:17:08.960 and someone is in their own group across the pub,
00:17:11.140 and we both sing,
00:17:12.940 Is that illegal? 1.00
00:17:15.380 Do you see how stupid this law is? 1.00
00:17:18.480 Ten pages of that released at midnight last night. 1.00
00:17:23.800 Here's a London civil liberties lawyer who actually read the whole law.
00:17:27.100 I pity him.
00:17:28.080 Adam Wagner says,
00:17:29.340 I just gave a lecture to Bristol law students on human rights and COVID-19.
00:17:32.900 First section is me answering,
00:17:35.640 Can your university lawfully imprison you in your accommodation blocks?
00:17:40.080 I'm afraid to say my conclusion was,
00:17:43.300 Potentially yes.
00:17:44.660 Yeah.
00:17:45.120 Oh, just that.
00:17:46.140 Hey, no problem.
00:17:47.080 You can be imprisoned now.
00:17:49.180 Hey, no problem.
00:17:50.960 Here's the news from a tyrannical regime called Venezuela.
00:17:54.660 This is from The Guardian.
00:17:55.700 A wave of demonstrations has erupted across Venezuela
00:17:59.140 as angry citizens flout lockdown restrictions
00:18:02.300 to demand an end to worsening shortages
00:18:04.140 of everything from electricity and water
00:18:05.820 to fuel and household supplies.
00:18:08.060 Since Sunday,
00:18:08.780 more than 100 protests have broken out
00:18:11.360 in at least 17 of the country's 23 states,
00:18:14.040 sometimes resulting in skirmishes with riot police.
00:18:17.940 Look, they've got nothing to lose in Venezuela.
00:18:20.600 Their country is so wrecked by the socialists.
00:18:22.660 They're actually used to riot police there.
00:18:25.320 It's Venezuela.
00:18:26.640 100 protests, riot police.
00:18:28.980 Tough to get too mad at them, though.
00:18:31.640 I mean, I used to rail against that stuff,
00:18:33.460 but how can you condemn them
00:18:35.820 but not, say, our ally, Australia?
00:18:40.820 Look at this farmer's market.
00:18:43.160 It is a farmer's market
00:18:44.960 with mums and dads and kids shopping
00:18:47.500 for vegetables in Australia.
00:18:50.400 Maria! 0.97
00:18:53.560 Maria! 0.97
00:18:54.760 Maria! 0.97
00:18:57.600 Maria! 0.97
00:19:09.060 Maria! 0.97
00:19:10.720 Maria! 0.97
00:19:11.200 Maria! 0.97
00:19:17.460 Maria! 0.97
00:19:19.200 Yeah, tough to point a finger at Venezuela.
00:19:38.380 So Quebec has shut down businesses in Canada's second largest city, Montreal, despite no outbreaks.
00:19:45.820 It's another lockdown.
00:19:46.720 They're not even pretending not to censor dissidents anymore, or lock them up.
00:19:53.440 Doug Ford in Ontario is threatening people, threatening them, threats.
00:19:58.840 Hey, are you watching the worst that the pandemic is doing around the world?
00:20:03.780 Like the worst ideas, the worst violations, cooked up by tyrants everywhere?
00:20:07.620 No singing, and we won't define singing.
00:20:11.200 You'll just have to guess if it's humming, or whispering, or rapping, or talking loud.
00:20:15.020 Was that a song?
00:20:17.540 Was that a song?
00:20:20.540 Just watch what's being done in our fellow Commonwealth countries, Australia, New Zealand, and the
00:20:23.740 United Kingdom, and remember that we are no different here.
00:20:26.680 If anything, our government is worse. 1.00
00:20:29.340 Our Prime Minister is stupider. 1.00
00:20:30.900 Do you really think that we're immune? 1.00
00:20:36.360 Brace yourself, my friends.
00:20:37.440 Welcome back.
00:20:50.100 Well, for those of you who tuned in last night, you'll know some of my thoughts and Sheila Gunn-Reed's
00:20:55.880 thoughts on the presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
00:21:00.340 My main takeaway was what a disaster the debate was in terms of process, procedure, format,
00:21:07.200 and the interventionism of the supposedly neutral moderator, Chris Wallace.
00:21:13.340 As our friend Joel Pollack points out, Wallace not only over-talked the candidates and by a
00:21:18.980 margin of five to one over-talked Donald Trump, he brought factual errors into the debate, and
00:21:24.100 he engaged in some partisan banter, too, that was not his place.
00:21:27.280 But what was the substance of the actual debate?
00:21:31.560 Did any side score some points?
00:21:35.000 Joining us now to talk about it is the author of an incredible book on Ilhan Omar.
00:21:40.680 We've talked to him before, Benjamin Weingarten's book, American In Great, Ilhan Omar and the
00:21:47.140 progressive Islamist takeover of the Democratic Party.
00:21:50.860 And Benjamin Weingarten joins us now.
00:21:52.900 Ben, what did you think of the debate?
00:21:54.280 Who do you think won?
00:21:55.080 Was there even a winner?
00:21:57.280 I think Chris Wallace tried to be the winner of the debate.
00:22:01.280 I'm not sure if he succeeded ultimately, given that we just found out word before this broadcast
00:22:07.340 that the debate commission would be changing the structure of the debates going forward.
00:22:13.020 I do think on the substance, and very important to point this out, there were any number of
00:22:18.860 issues on which Joe Biden essentially said, I have no answer.
00:22:22.880 And I'll just tick through them really quickly because they're incredibly significant when
00:22:27.180 it comes to thinking about the stakes of this election.
00:22:30.440 And that's really what these debates should be about.
00:22:33.260 So he had no answer on court packing.
00:22:35.440 He had no answer on Hunter Biden's corruption.
00:22:37.660 He had no and his relationship to it, because, of course, Hunter Biden and his family members
00:22:41.660 were profiting from all sorts of adversarial foreign regimes while Vice President Biden was
00:22:47.740 vice president, the filibuster, lack of support from law enforcement, Biden's accomplishments
00:22:53.300 in 47 years versus Trump's accomplishments in 47 months, coronavirus strategy, environmental
00:22:58.980 radicalism.
00:22:59.780 So President Trump got Biden on record or not on record, as the case may be on this litany
00:23:07.200 of items.
00:23:08.180 And he also broke through the veneer of this affable Uncle Joe.
00:23:11.920 And I think he pretty effectively forced Biden to infuriate the left by denouncing all the
00:23:18.460 positions that are right in the Biden-Bernie Sanders unity agenda.
00:23:22.860 So I think on the substance, those were hugely impactful hits.
00:23:25.900 My main takeaway, though, is that last time around in 2016, it was very clear that Trump
00:23:32.940 defined Hillary Clinton, besides being crooked Hillary, as really not having much of any
00:23:38.900 substance.
00:23:39.780 You could not, in a sentence, define what Hillary Clinton was running on.
00:23:44.620 I think the same can be said with Joe Biden.
00:23:47.920 President Trump, on the other hand, as the insurgent candidate last time, ran on America
00:23:52.380 first, get out of bad trade deals, put the American worker first. 0.67
00:23:56.020 Let's get back to a patriotic country with a vibrant civil society where we're going to
00:24:00.900 protect the people who are under fire from progressive elites, build the wall and the
00:24:05.400 like.
00:24:06.060 And I think in the next debate going forward and vice presidential as well, there needs
00:24:10.940 to be an emphasis on creating a contrast not only in the personalities of the individuals,
00:24:15.380 but in the vision for this country and what's at stake.
00:24:18.480 Because I think on that basis, Donald Trump kills Joe Biden, but it needs to be made abundantly
00:24:23.760 clear to the American people.
00:24:25.580 Yeah, last night felt squabbly and quarrelsome.
00:24:29.840 Obviously, it's a debate, so it's going to have some of that in it.
00:24:32.600 But it felt like it was devolving into a muddle and a mess.
00:24:36.740 I saw that announcement that you referred to that the debates commission wants to change
00:24:41.160 formats.
00:24:41.640 I'm guessing they're going to cut the mics of the opposing candidate when the other candidate
00:24:49.240 is speaking.
00:24:49.840 That's one of my predictions of the changes to be made.
00:24:53.040 I think that, I hope that the other debates are more clarifying.
00:24:58.120 I think Trump was underprepared.
00:25:01.540 Biden was clearly very practiced, had his talking points and managed to get through them without
00:25:05.980 having a Biden moment.
00:25:07.100 I think Trump felt a little bit like he does as a campaign speech, stream of consciousness,
00:25:13.400 some talking points, but not practiced lines of what he thought was going to come up in
00:25:19.760 the debate.
00:25:20.000 That's just how it came across to me.
00:25:22.180 Maybe he's too busy or didn't compel himself to go into that discipline or thought, well,
00:25:28.200 I'm great with the media, unlike Joe Biden, I'll just wing it.
00:25:30.940 It just felt like he was winging it a bit to me.
00:25:33.860 Those are my thoughts, but let me ask you a question, because you mentioned that Trump
00:25:39.160 managed to get Biden to move to the center, and on environmental radicalism, we saw Biden
00:25:46.160 very clearly disavowed the Green New Deal, and I think that Biden also tried to claim he
00:25:54.920 was more about law and order than he has been in the past.
00:25:57.240 But here's my point to you, and I said this to Sheila Gunn-Reed last night, I don't think
00:26:04.620 that's going to drive a wedge between Joe Biden and his left-wing base, because I think that they
00:26:09.520 will vote against Trump no matter what, and they're delighted that Biden says whatever he has to say
00:26:16.800 to win over some of middle America too.
00:26:19.420 So if Biden fibs, throws the AOC wing, the Ilhan Omar wing of the party under the bus in a debate
00:26:26.780 that millions of Americans are watching, I think the Antifa wing, the squad, that part of the party
00:26:33.120 doesn't care, because by any means necessary, say whatever you have to, lie, cheat, whatever it takes
00:26:41.140 to win, just win, and they'll figure it out after the revolution.
00:26:44.220 I think you're right that ultimately Joe Biden has, candidate Joe Biden, and I always put it
00:26:52.000 in parentheses because he hasn't really run per se, and when he said Harris Biden, I think that was
00:26:58.660 an accurate description of what this ticket is. Kamala Harris in some ways really embodies the nature
00:27:04.260 of the party today because it's all about power at any cost, no matter what, the ends justify the
00:27:09.960 means. It's about control over us ultimately, and Joe Biden has always been the Trojan horse
00:27:15.920 candidate for the leftist energy within their party, so I agree. It's not that he's going to
00:27:21.540 lose votes as a consequence of trying to create a wedge there, but I think it is to try to stir up
00:27:27.160 some dissension to the extent it can be stirred on their side. What I would suggest is that the
00:27:31.920 president ought to do two things next time. First of all, when he's being attacked by the moderator,
00:27:36.760 and it's clear that every question is about ultimately trying to frame orange man bad,
00:27:43.040 the Democrat message, is say, I reject the premise of your question, and it should offend
00:27:47.800 the American people that you think so little of them. And then he should pivot to, here's what
00:27:52.360 you're trying to get at by framing this question as such. Why don't you ask my opponent XYZ? I think 1.00
00:27:57.580 that would be a very effective tact next time. And then number two, he has to make it very clear
00:28:02.720 that Biden is the candidate of a radical left that ultimately wants to pillage your bank account,
00:28:07.800 wants to destroy the suburbs, and make it very clear the Democrats' anti-suburb Obama-Biden plan,
00:28:13.620 make it very clear that he's going to not just cripple your 401k and raise your taxes and all
00:28:19.020 the rest, but ultimately that their party is a party that is anti-American, that wants to destroy the
00:28:23.940 America we know and love. And Biden may disavow that, but you need to get him on very crisp,
00:28:28.820 succinct points, disavowing it. He didn't do that last night. The contrast in the two visions has
00:28:35.700 to be made clear. It's absolutely imperative that it be made clear in the next couple presidential
00:28:40.280 debates. Yeah. Let me ask you about something. I mean, I'm interested in China, not just because
00:28:44.980 of the virus, which is how it came up last night, but there's so many other factors. China's regional
00:28:51.000 expansionism, it's practically in a war with India. It's building offshore islands to threaten the 0.95
00:28:57.500 Philippines and Taiwan. It's threatening war with Taiwan. It's aggressive regionally. It's engaging
00:29:04.360 in cybersecurity threats against America, whether it's Huawei or TikTok or just plain old industrial
00:29:10.980 espionage. Then there's the economic warfare. I was sort of surprised that China didn't come up 0.99
00:29:17.780 really at all, other than a few glancing moments. And frankly, foreign policy didn't come up at all.
00:29:22.920 Here's a president who has negotiated seemingly impossible peace deals in the Middle East.
00:29:29.280 Is it just because it wasn't scripted in the debate agenda? Or do you think maybe Americans don't
00:29:34.780 really care about foreign affairs? That's a distraction for the political class. And Americans, 0.93
00:29:40.500 you know, prefer other matters. Why didn't, like China seems like an awfully large issue
00:29:45.420 for America and for Trump personally.
00:29:47.620 Yeah, there were no real questions that sort of pushed the debate towards it based upon the six
00:29:54.280 topics that were telegraphed in advance of the debate. But I absolutely think even though the
00:29:59.960 American people will not vote on national security and foreign policy, while they will vote on homeland
00:30:05.000 security, they may not vote on the Abraham Accord and comedy between Arab and Israel. That's really
00:30:11.440 Arab nations in Israel, which is really unprecedented or confronting communist China, the greatest threat. 0.97
00:30:17.260 To American liberty of any adversary in the world or countering Russia, even though Trump gets
00:30:22.440 attacked as a Putin puppet over and over again, he has countered them to a huge extent through NATO
00:30:28.940 and well beyond in terms of Nord Stream 2. And we can tick off the list of items rebuilding our
00:30:35.340 military and the like. I absolutely think that this is a huge weak point for Joe Biden. I've written
00:30:40.520 any number of columns at Newsweek, at The Federalist, at The American Mind, talking about the fact that
00:30:45.800 Joe Biden is the perfect embodiment with respect to China of the globalist, progressive elite classes
00:30:52.480 aiding, abetting and enabling of China for nearly 50 years. And Biden did it at the highest levels of
00:30:57.920 power, of course, because remember, he was the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
00:31:01.560 when he wasn't chairing it. He was the ranking member in the minority. And then he was the vice
00:31:05.740 president where he his job was to handle the China portfolio. And in particular, in conjunction with
00:31:11.080 the rise of General Secretary Xi, and at every turn, I've written about this at length, Joe Biden
00:31:16.780 was a supporter of communist China's rise. That has to be hammered home to the American people that
00:31:22.280 the destruction of manufacturing in this country, the stealing of hundreds of billions, if not
00:31:27.680 trillions of dollars in intellectual property from Americans, all manner of national security threats 1.00
00:31:33.300 posed by a rising China. Joe Biden enabled that to happen. And oh, by the way, his son,
00:31:38.240 Hunter, and this also has to be made clear, seemed to be profiting to the tune of millions of dollars,
00:31:42.780 as well as his other family members as well. By the way, if you read closely in that Senate
00:31:47.040 Joint Committee report, they were all profiting from those linked to the Chinese Communist Party
00:31:51.920 and the PLA, the Chinese Communist Party's military apparatus, while Joe Biden was vice
00:31:57.940 president in office. So the question has to be posed. What did Joe Biden know? When did he know
00:32:03.020 it? And why didn't he do anything about it? And again, I think that needs to be made crystal
00:32:06.540 clear in the next debate, as does this simple distinction. I wrote about this in Newsweek in
00:32:11.300 advance of the debate, and happy to share that link. Very clearly, do you believe in an America
00:32:16.560 first national security and foreign policy that's built in peace through strength? Or do you believe
00:32:21.820 in a national security and foreign policy that's about aiding, abetting, and enabling our worst
00:32:26.620 adversaries to the benefit of our worst adversaries? And it needs to be made crystal clear
00:32:30.260 that that's the difference between the Obama-Biden agenda and the Trump agenda.
00:32:34.900 You know, one of the questions, one of the themes that Chris Wallace did, and if I heard him right,
00:32:40.840 he said he himself came up with the questions. He was asking about the Paris Global Warming
00:32:46.440 Accords, which is a non-binding meeting that the United Nations held in 2016, I believe, in Paris,
00:32:55.240 about carbon dioxide emissions. The fact that that would be one of the top six things he wants to
00:33:05.060 talk about in this debate felt so like reheated leftovers from an earlier campaign, not a mention
00:33:14.020 about censorship, tech dominance, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter bias, not a mention about cancel culture in
00:33:24.760 general. I just, I felt like the ground was strong for Joe Biden. Trump didn't reach for some of those
00:33:33.440 issues that cross over into, that would excite people. I mean, when I hear global warming, I just glaze over.
00:33:40.000 Now, maybe it's because I'm a skeptic, but I don't think that's going to rev up American voters. You start
00:33:45.140 talking about transgender extremism. You start talking about, you know, people aren't allowed to say things freely 1.00
00:33:52.760 in the internet. Maybe those sound like small and unimportant things, but I think they touch on a larger
00:33:57.640 change in America. I don't know. Do you think, I just wish that there was, that there had been more substance
00:34:04.440 and I'd wish that it hadn't been just reheated blather that felt like it could have been in the 2016 election.
00:34:13.080 I don't know. I guess I'm complaining to you about a debate. What can I do?
00:34:17.280 Well, I, I, I, I 100% agree with you. And I think the questions were a perfect representation of what
00:34:23.680 the political class thinks the important issues are for the American people. And as I've argued
00:34:28.360 before, what the political class thinks is mainstream is radical. And what mainstream America
00:34:34.120 thinks is mainstream, the political class thinks is radical. It was not at all an accurate depiction
00:34:39.820 of what are the issues that, as you put it, rev up voters. But I do think the point that you make
00:34:45.380 is a critical one, which is I've argued, I've long argued that I don't believe they're really
00:34:50.440 undecideds in this election. Everyone knows who Joe Biden is. Everyone knows who Donald Trump is.
00:34:56.320 I think it comes down to energy and intensity, which in turn generates turnout. And then maybe
00:35:01.460 in those swing states, a few issues that could really push at the margins, one candidate over the
00:35:07.000 top against another. So in my sort of pregame notes that I wrote at Newsweek yesterday, I said,
00:35:12.000 Donald Trump has energized his base and Donald Trump has to make appeals in those swing states
00:35:16.840 and show that the issues where Joe Biden will just cripple people and Donald Trump will support
00:35:22.320 their dreams and aspirations. So for example, in Pennsylvania, on fracking, a key issue when it
00:35:27.460 comes down to Florida, supporting tyrannical regimes like the Cuban communist regime that Joe Biden and
00:35:33.220 Barack Obama sought a total detente with. You could tick off the list of issues there that I think are
00:35:38.020 critical issues. And you've seen some movement in the polls on those issues. But I really think it
00:35:42.020 comes down to energizing your base, which means hitting those core issues that you're speaking
00:35:46.300 to, and then also tipping these swing states in your direction. And so hopefully Donald Trump can
00:35:51.840 set the narrative in the debates going forward, because this really is, everyone says that every
00:35:55.960 election is the most important election of all time. But this really is like one man against a wave
00:36:00.520 of tyranny here. So he needs to get it right. And he needs to be victorious, in my view.
00:36:04.760 Last question. And I think this one might be one you have a particularly interesting opinion on.
00:36:11.460 In the last few days, Project Veritas has released undercover footage of vote buying,
00:36:18.180 vote harvesting in Minnesota involving the Somali community. And of course, that's where Ilhan Omar 0.96
00:36:25.660 has her power base. Let me play a quick clip that James O'Keefe released just a few days ago.
00:36:32.260 Massive viewership online, almost completely ignored by the mainstream media. Here, take a look at this.
00:36:38.960 Project Veritas has received an explosive piece of tape. The tape you're about to see shows a man
00:36:51.340 buying a registration form for an absentee ballot from a voter, giving him, quote,
00:36:56.300 pocket money, unquote, of $200 and expecting to collect his ballot when the voter receives it.
00:37:04.000 A
00:37:34.000 Now you wrote the book on Ilhan Omar, American Ingrate.
00:37:41.520 I think that just as important as making good points in a debate is how America responds to clear cheating, rigging, vote buying, ballot stuffing.
00:37:55.360 And I don't think that that is being taken seriously by the establishment except for the establishment that's in on it.
00:38:05.140 Those government officials who are part of the scheme.
00:38:09.860 That's my real worry is that, you know, you've got the tech bias that's going to be good for a few points in the ballot.
00:38:16.880 I think these shenanigans, these bending of the voting rules, that's probably good for a few points in a place like Minnesota.
00:38:26.040 What do you think?
00:38:28.000 Absolutely.
00:38:28.840 That's the whole election potentially.
00:38:31.400 And there's a reason that we saw these news reports about the Biden team hiring hundreds of lawyers in advance of the election.
00:38:38.960 About these Democrats and never Trumpers doing this war gaming about what happens in a contested race to try to paint it as well.
00:38:46.880 Donald Trump won't leave and Donald Trump supporters will riot and loot in the streets, which is, of course, what Democrats are doing.
00:38:52.620 And if you want to look at what Democrats plan on doing, just look at what they accuse the President Trump and Republicans of doing in connection with this.
00:39:01.040 But they want to create a scenario where it does come down to lawfare and the arcane rules associated with each state and which judges do they potentially have locks on.
00:39:11.000 And also for the Democrats, can they swing some state assemblies so that they get a majority of states to be Democrats that if it comes to it and there's a vote in the House where each state has one vote, Democrats can win.
00:39:23.120 I mean, Democrats are perfectionists and they've turned it into an art trying to win on these sorts of rules.
00:39:29.300 They don't want it to be you walk into a voting booth, your vote is counted and that's it.
00:39:34.940 They want you to be as far removed as possible from who's doing the vote counting and who is ultimately certifying and who's ultimately going to win, which is scary for the American Republic.
00:39:43.320 And I'm really glad that President Trump did hammer home the point about why are you asking me about a transition of power?
00:39:49.280 Because Joe Biden and Barack Obama were the ones who did everything they could to halt a peaceful transfer of power to spy on and then sabotage and ultimately try to topple his presidency.
00:39:59.760 It's a disaster for the country that it's come down to this because the establishment hate this gut so much that they don't want to leave a chance again that somehow they could lose to Donald Trump.
00:40:09.540 So Ilhan Omar in particular, this would be just another element of fraud on top of the marriage fraud, the student alleged student loan fraud, all manner of fraud.
00:40:20.420 We could tick through the list of items her now husband, former, it seems, lover who she paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to as a campaign consultant.
00:40:28.120 I mean, you can run down the list. I think she's the perfect representative, though, of the Democratic Party in 2020.
00:40:33.260 And that was the purpose of my book, American Ingrade, to make that case.
00:40:36.000 And this summer of discontent in the fall has really proved it with this alleged election fraud ballot harvesting scheme, which, of course, shows for the progressive Democrats the willingness to win at all costs with a 1619 riot that we witnessed this summer.
00:40:50.600 And she's the first of all, starting in her district in Minneapolis.
00:40:54.640 But then second of all, her talking about the need to dismantle the system, defund the cops, abolish basically all rules and authorities that then you can have a progressive Gestapo sort of police force in the streets and mind control as well from their officers throughout every cultural institution.
00:41:12.560 And then, of course, you've seen in recent interviews and the Democrats writ large have tried to make this election about bigots versus anti bigots or racist versus anti racist.
00:41:21.520 And basically, if you hold any conservative traditional ideas, those are at their roots, racist ideas, capitalism being racist, individual rights being racist, justice is, you know, Martin Luther King would have conceived of it being racist.
00:41:34.620 So she's the perfect representative of it. She embodies all of these beliefs. She is at their most on her most unvarnished of all the Democrats in it.
00:41:43.300 And I think if you want to see where the Democrats not just are going, but really are today, look to Ilhan Omar in Minneapolis, which has been a disaster for those citizens who are most in need, by the way.
00:41:52.860 Yeah, isn't that the truth? Well, great to catch up with you, Benjamin Weingarten, author of American In Great.
00:41:58.980 These are heavy days and just barely a month to go. Thanks for joining us.
00:42:03.440 Thanks for having me, Ezra.
00:42:04.140 All right. Thank you. Stay with us. More happy days.
00:42:17.440 Hey, welcome back to my monologue last night on Schwa FM.
00:42:20.720 Diane writes, Schwa FM Radio X is the only radio talking to the population and telling the truth, not accepting the government advertisement.
00:42:27.560 Yeah. But I don't know how they're going to be able to survive if every advertiser is bullied, pressured to cancel them.
00:42:37.000 We have learned to survive without advertising through your help.
00:42:40.780 You pay subscriptions to watch this and we have crowdfunding.
00:42:45.520 How does that apply to a radio station that's used to selling ads? I'm worried for them.
00:42:51.540 Maurice says, I left Quebec six years ago.
00:42:54.000 I can tell you that there is no room for divergent opinions.
00:42:56.880 The mainstream media works for the government and despise the people.
00:43:00.440 Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, it's a total divide because of the language.
00:43:04.980 They're not part of the Mean Girls Club of Ottawa and Toronto.
00:43:08.580 They're just not.
00:43:09.300 But they have their own petty politics there.
00:43:15.220 And, of course, they're absolutely in bed with the government.
00:43:18.340 Every media company is because they're all on a different form of bailout of regulation.
00:43:24.040 Paul writes, tyrants censor.
00:43:26.180 And we have tyrants at every level of government at every level.
00:43:29.720 Quebec City Council looks petty and weak over this.
00:43:33.420 Yeah, but it's not the 9,000 bucks that's going to hurt Schwa FM.
00:43:37.580 It's the fact that now activists will say, oh, Quebec City quit.
00:43:42.800 Are you going to advertise?
00:43:44.460 All the good people are leaving.
00:43:46.480 You either join the mob or you'll be eaten by it.
00:43:50.460 I'm going to try and talk to my friends over there at Schwa FM.
00:43:53.220 Occasionally, I'm interviewed by Dominic Moret over there.
00:43:55.140 I'm going to try and talk to them and see what's really going on.
00:43:57.460 It's hard to know if you're learning about it through the prism of the government media.
00:44:03.500 That's our show for today.
00:44:04.520 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:44:07.580 to you at home, good night.
00:44:09.240 Keep fighting for freedom.
00:44:10.140 Thank you.