Rebel News Podcast - October 02, 2020


Fact checking the fact checkers： Did Trump really refuse to condemn white supremacy？


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In Part 212 of our ongoing series, "You Just Can't Trust the Media," host Ezra Levenkamp fact-checks the fact-checkers at CTV. They get it wrong, and it's all about Trump.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I fact-check the fact-checkers at CTV.
00:00:05.200 Oh, my God, did they get it wrong?
00:00:07.400 And obviously, it's all about Trump.
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00:00:45.140 Okay, here's today's podcast.
00:00:50.760 You're listening to Rebel News Podcast.
00:00:55.420 Tonight, who fact-checks the fact-checkers?
00:01:04.580 Part 212 in our ongoing series called You Just Can't Trust the Media.
00:01:09.400 It's October 1st, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:13.840 Why should others go to jail when you're the biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:17.640 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:21.280 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:32.340 Donald Trump is right to call it the fake news media.
00:01:36.260 I'm sorry, it just is.
00:01:37.820 It's not my opinion.
00:01:38.880 It's the opinion of most people.
00:01:42.100 Here's a Gallup poll from a year ago, so it's probably even worse now.
00:01:46.840 Americans' trust in mass media edges down to 41%.
00:01:52.180 Only 13% trust the media a great deal, and 28% a fair amount.
00:01:59.420 Imagine being that guy, that 13%. 1.00
00:02:03.120 So what's that?
00:02:03.920 That's one in eight people who says,
00:02:05.900 Yeah, I really trust the media a great deal.
00:02:10.340 I really believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
00:02:14.120 I really believe that Donald Trump works for Vladimir Putin.
00:02:17.600 I really believe that my SUV is why the globe is warming.
00:02:21.360 I really believe that Bill Clinton is a feminist. 1.00
00:02:24.240 And I really believe that Justin Trudeau just didn't know that dressing up in blackface was racist.
00:02:30.540 I'm serious, imagine what a lovely life that person leads. 0.99
00:02:35.340 It's like all of us, before we ate from the tree of knowledge and stopped being like children of tender years.
00:02:40.420 If only we could get back to that childlike state of really trusting the media.
00:02:45.840 But look at this part, same story.
00:02:47.780 69% of Democrats, 15% of Republicans, 36% of independents trust the media.
00:02:53.820 That's actually the real story.
00:02:55.040 Democrats are sort of fine with the media.
00:02:57.380 Republicans are not, which pretty much tells you everything.
00:03:01.040 We all know the media aren't neutral.
00:03:02.660 They're partisan.
00:03:04.180 It's a big problem in the U.S.
00:03:05.320 And I'm sure if it were ever properly polled in Canada, we'd see the same problem up here.
00:03:11.160 I mean, imagine actually trusting the CBC's Rosemary Barton, the chief political reporter,
00:03:16.820 to give you the straight goods on Trudeau.
00:03:19.480 If you could do any other job, and you have to answer, what would it be?
00:03:23.020 I'd be a schoolteacher.
00:03:24.020 I knew you were going to say that.
00:03:24.860 No, no, no, like aspirational.
00:03:26.440 But it's what I am.
00:03:27.440 Aspirational.
00:03:28.700 Something you haven't done.
00:03:30.540 No, it'd be that.
00:03:34.040 It'd be maybe running a school.
00:03:37.100 Something at the U.N.
00:03:38.480 Something at the...
00:03:39.480 Oh, no.
00:03:39.920 Once I'm done politics, I'm done politics.
00:03:44.460 Last book you've read or the book you're reading?
00:03:46.400 I just finished The Patch, which was Chris Turner's history of The Oil Patch.
00:03:58.960 But I'm also about to start the new Ken Follett, the third book that is the sequel to Pillars of the Earth.
00:04:09.800 That's your nerdy side.
00:04:11.100 No, that's my...
00:04:13.100 Your sci-fi nerdy side.
00:04:14.920 No, no, it's not sci-fi.
00:04:16.280 It's just a sweeping historical epic, I'm sure, but I haven't started it yet.
00:04:20.400 If that didn't convince you that she's Trudeau's platonic girlfriend, maybe the fact that she literally sued the Conservative Party in the middle of the last election might.
00:04:29.620 Yeah, no one trusts the media.
00:04:31.280 Here's an interesting story.
00:04:32.440 In Pew Research, they're a liberal group, but they're pretty honest liberals.
00:04:36.000 Americans see skepticism of news media as healthy, say public trust in the institution can improve.
00:04:47.060 72% of U.S. adults say news organizations do an insufficient job telling their audiences where their money comes from.
00:04:54.860 Again, that's in the United States.
00:04:56.540 Imagine if we had an honest poll up here in Canada where the CBC takes $1.5 billion from Trudeau,
00:05:02.380 where newspapers take another $600 million from Trudeau,
00:05:05.720 where left-wing lobby groups like the Tides Foundation pour money into climate journalism everywhere that'll take it, including the Toronto Star.
00:05:12.540 So yeah, we're not stupid, except that lucky 13% of us who think everything's fine.
00:05:18.640 So some journalists have been trying to build back the credibility of their biased wreckage
00:05:23.500 by saying, um, we're fact-checkers now.
00:05:27.660 Which is odd, because I thought that all reporters check their facts all the time.
00:05:32.380 Calling yourself a journalist who's a fact-checker now makes me wonder,
00:05:37.080 you mean you weren't checking your facts all along?
00:05:38.900 You mean other reporters in your company still aren't checking their facts even now?
00:05:44.560 Now, Daniel Dale is the fact-checker at the Toronto Star,
00:05:48.260 who was then hired away by CNN to fact-check Donald Trump.
00:05:52.140 So here's how that goes.
00:05:53.620 Trump said this in the debate.
00:05:56.220 But if you look at what we've done,
00:05:58.460 I closed it and you said he's xenophobic.
00:06:00.820 He's a racist and he's xenophobic.
00:06:02.620 So here's a CNN facts check on that.
00:06:06.120 Did Biden say Trump was xenophobic for imposing travel restrictions on China?
00:06:11.180 This is lacking context.
00:06:13.780 It's not clear Biden even knew about Trump's China travel restrictions
00:06:17.600 when he called Trump xenophobic on the day the restrictions were unveiled.
00:06:21.380 Biden has never explicitly linked his accusation of xenophobia to these travel restrictions.
00:06:27.480 So a fact-check is that Biden, well, sure, he did say the word xenophobic,
00:06:32.060 but it's unclear what he meant.
00:06:34.020 How's that even a fact-check?
00:06:36.020 Oh, I guess you could literally read Biden's tweets on the subject.
00:06:39.600 Back in March, Trump tweeted about closing borders to China.
00:06:42.880 And Biden said, stop the xenophobic fear-mongering, be honest, take responsibility, do your job.
00:06:50.680 It's right there.
00:06:51.840 He wrote it himself, or his staff did, but CNN says it.
00:06:55.180 Fact-check Trump, and he was lying again.
00:06:58.180 Biden never said he was xenophobic.
00:07:00.020 Do you see why no one trusts the media?
00:07:02.380 At least no one who was conservative or even middle-of-the-road.
00:07:04.860 That's not a fact-check.
00:07:06.460 That's actually an anti-fact-check.
00:07:08.680 Trump got it right. 0.54
00:07:10.160 CNN sent in the liars to mop it up for the Democrats. 0.99
00:07:13.460 Which brings me to this story by CTV.
00:07:16.580 It says, Trudeau, other leaders, condemn white supremacy in wake of Trump's refusal to do so.
00:07:23.380 There's so much even in that headline.
00:07:24.740 Did Trump really refuse to condemn white supremacy?
00:07:27.660 Well, take it from the fact-checkers at CTV.
00:07:31.240 U.S. President Donald Trump refused to condemn white supremacy
00:07:34.640 during his debate against former U.S. President Joe Biden on Tuesday.
00:07:37.780 Now, is that true?
00:07:40.020 Because I watched the debate, and he not only condemned them,
00:07:43.640 he pointed out he's repeatedly condemned them before.
00:07:46.200 Take a listen.
00:07:46.760 He criticized the vice president for not specifically calling out Antifa
00:07:51.840 and other left-wing extremist groups.
00:07:54.840 But are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups
00:07:59.580 and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities,
00:08:06.640 as we saw in Kenosha and as we've seen in Portland?
00:08:09.760 Sure, I'm willing to do that.
00:08:11.380 Here's the transcript of that, because there was a lot of crosstalk.
00:08:14.320 Let me read it slowly.
00:08:15.260 Chris Wallace said,
00:08:16.440 You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not calling out Antifa
00:08:20.500 and other left-wing extremist groups.
00:08:22.860 Trump says,
00:08:23.620 That's right.
00:08:25.040 Chris Wallace says,
00:08:25.760 But are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups?
00:08:29.740 And Trump says,
00:08:31.220 Sure.
00:08:32.780 Chris Wallace says,
00:08:33.540 And to say that they need to stand down
00:08:35.300 and not add to the violence in a number of these cities,
00:08:38.240 as we saw in Kenosha and as we've seen in Portland?
00:08:41.440 Trump says,
00:08:42.060 Sure, I'm willing to do that.
00:08:44.040 And he goes on, he says,
00:08:45.000 Stand down.
00:08:46.480 Of course he's willing to say that.
00:08:48.580 He actually answered the exact same question four years ago
00:08:52.120 to the exact same reporter, Chris Wallace.
00:08:54.660 I totally disavow the Ku Klux Klan.
00:08:58.120 I totally disavow David Duke.
00:09:01.020 I've been doing it now for two weeks.
00:09:02.880 This is, you're probably about the 18th person that's asked me the question.
00:09:06.260 It was very clear.
00:09:08.060 That question was also talked about in the form of groups.
00:09:11.660 Those groups, I want to know, which groups are you talking about?
00:09:14.060 You have to tell me which groups.
00:09:15.520 Ultimately, he got to the Ku Klux Klan,
00:09:17.540 which obviously I'm going to disavow.
00:09:19.720 And by the way, if you look at my Twitter account,
00:09:22.120 almost immediately after the program,
00:09:24.460 they were disavowed again.
00:09:26.340 You know, it's amazing.
00:09:27.280 When I do something on Twitter,
00:09:28.880 everybody picks it up, goes all over the place.
00:09:31.160 But when I did this one, nobody ever picks it up.
00:09:33.540 Take a look at my Twitter account.
00:09:35.160 Yeah, in fact, just a couple weeks ago,
00:09:37.100 Trump called for the KKK,
00:09:39.420 which was a Democrat Party creation,
00:09:41.940 to be labeled a terrorist entity.
00:09:44.860 Hey, why didn't Chris Wallace, the journalist there,
00:09:46.840 ask Joe Biden if he would condemn Antifa and Black Lives Matter rioters
00:09:50.800 who have actually been burning and rioting
00:09:52.920 and murdering their way across America for six months?
00:09:55.160 I wonder why he didn't do that.
00:09:58.320 Because I'm not one of the 13% who trusts.
00:10:00.660 Back to the CTV story, which starts off with a lie, as you can see.
00:10:06.300 Now, Canada's political leaders are all speaking out
00:10:09.000 against the issue of white supremacy,
00:10:11.140 one that many acknowledge is present in Canada, too.
00:10:14.320 The Prime Minister has condemned,
00:10:15.720 and will continue to condemn,
00:10:17.280 right-wing extremism, white supremacy,
00:10:19.140 and racism in all its form,
00:10:20.860 read a statement from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's office
00:10:23.240 sent to CTV News Wednesday.
00:10:26.100 Well, two thoughts.
00:10:26.660 How do you write a whole story in CTV?
00:10:30.660 About that, without mentioning Trudeau in blackface.
00:10:34.840 How do you talk with a straight face
00:10:37.620 about Trudeau condemning racism
00:10:40.260 when he himself was racist so many times he lost count?
00:10:44.200 And by the way, he fires any women of color 0.98
00:10:46.260 who stand in his way,
00:10:47.560 whether it's Selina Cesar Chauvin or Jody Wilson-Raybill.
00:10:50.460 But hey, CTV has some fact-checking to do here.
00:10:53.240 And again, in Canada,
00:10:55.180 is it right-wing, right-supremacist?
00:10:58.280 White-supremacist?
00:10:58.920 I mean, I don't know, blocking roads and railways
00:11:01.480 and pipelines with eco-terrorism.
00:11:04.220 Why won't Trudeau condemn them?
00:11:06.260 And why won't CTV ask him to do it?
00:11:09.660 Because they're liars.
00:11:10.960 Boy, sometimes I wish I were part of the 13% 1.00
00:11:12.980 who believe the media.
00:11:14.200 Life would be less stressful.
00:11:16.180 Now, for some reason,
00:11:16.900 CTV didn't quote what Trump actually said in the debates.
00:11:20.800 I showed you the clip when I read the transcript.
00:11:22.860 CTV said this.
00:11:23.680 During the debate, Trump was asked
00:11:26.100 whether he condemns white supremacist groups
00:11:28.020 and the violence they participated in
00:11:29.860 during summer protests.
00:11:31.360 No, he wasn't.
00:11:32.620 That's not even what the question was.
00:11:35.040 He refused to do so,
00:11:36.740 opting instead to brand it solely a left-wing problem
00:11:39.820 and even telling one far-right hate group
00:11:42.600 to stand back and stand by.
00:11:45.720 What?
00:11:46.480 He refused to...
00:11:47.720 They just made this up.
00:11:50.980 But that far-right hate group to stand back,
00:11:53.920 they're referring to the Proud Boys.
00:11:56.820 The far-right group Trump refused to condemn
00:11:59.480 was first founded in Canada
00:12:01.120 and since taken root in the United States,
00:12:03.100 which is something interim Green Party leader
00:12:04.660 Joanne Roberts made a point to mention
00:12:06.140 in the statement she sent to CTV News.
00:12:09.120 I know a little bit of the Proud Boys.
00:12:10.600 It's basically a loose fraternity
00:12:13.460 that Gavin McInnes started years ago.
00:12:15.840 When I was in Israel,
00:12:17.100 three and a half years ago with Gavin,
00:12:18.820 he had to meet up with some Proud Boys
00:12:20.840 in a bar in Tel Aviv.
00:12:25.400 Let me just say that part again.
00:12:27.120 They were Jews in Tel Aviv,
00:12:30.140 meeting up for drinks.
00:12:31.540 Doesn't sound very neo-Nazi to me.
00:12:35.040 Here's their leader, Enrique Tarrio.
00:12:37.200 I've never met him, never spoken with him.
00:12:38.880 I don't know anything about him, actually,
00:12:40.940 other than he's a Cuban-American
00:12:42.540 and he's that person of color, as they say.
00:12:46.240 There were two Proud Boys who were sent to jail
00:12:48.560 for getting into a street fight
00:12:50.300 with Antifa riders in New York.
00:12:53.460 Here's a photo of one of the Proud Boys,
00:12:55.380 John Kinsman.
00:12:56.860 That's his black wife and their black child. 1.00
00:13:01.440 So yeah, if he's a racist,
00:13:02.960 he's doing a really, really bad job of it.
00:13:05.580 I mean, I don't mean to laugh.
00:13:06.700 He's in prison.
00:13:07.880 But anyone who thinks that man is racist,
00:13:09.960 well, it reminds me of that Steve Martin movie,
00:13:12.520 The Jerk.
00:13:14.100 It's your birthday and it's time you knew.
00:13:17.620 Navin, you're not our natural-born child.
00:13:26.520 I'm not.
00:13:29.300 You were left on our doorstep.
00:13:30.960 But we raised you like you were one of us.
00:13:35.420 You mean I'm going to stay this color?
00:13:40.700 Navin, I'd love you if you were the color of a baboon's ass. 1.00
00:13:46.660 Yeah, no, no.
00:13:48.680 He's not racist.
00:13:50.800 But CTV knows.
00:13:52.860 CTV knows they're white supremacists.
00:13:54.900 They're a hate group, whatever that is.
00:13:56.720 Trump won't condemn white supremacists.
00:14:00.320 Here's Trump's own daughter, Ivanka Trump,
00:14:03.180 and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner.
00:14:05.580 They're Jewish.
00:14:06.720 Here they are celebrating Hanukkah, the Jewish holiday.
00:14:09.840 Both have senior roles in the White House.
00:14:11.640 But sure, Trump's a racist white supremacist, sure.
00:14:15.020 And you know it's true
00:14:16.540 because CTV's fact-checkers check the facts
00:14:19.900 and they would never lie to you.
00:14:23.440 Would they?
00:14:25.360 Stay with us for more.
00:14:26.460 Welcome back.
00:14:39.240 Well, the pandemic laws are so vague and arbitrary,
00:14:43.560 it almost depends on the individual police officer
00:14:46.660 and the individual suspect.
00:14:49.260 There's quirks, of course.
00:14:50.740 In Las Vegas, churches were shut down, but not casinos.
00:14:54.020 I've seen churches hold ceremonies in Walmarts
00:14:57.360 that never had to close.
00:14:59.260 And it brings us to a case that I saw in Montreal.
00:15:03.160 A few days ago was the highest holiday
00:15:06.260 in the Jewish calendar called Yom Kippur,
00:15:09.680 the Day of Atonement,
00:15:11.340 one of the days of the year
00:15:12.640 where even irreligious Jews go to synagogue.
00:15:15.040 And so it was a shocking report I heard out of Montreal
00:15:19.260 that one such synagogue where the Jews were praying
00:15:23.340 socially distanced and whatnot,
00:15:26.520 police raided the synagogue without a warrant,
00:15:31.120 demanded that the Jews inside disperse out into the streets 1.00
00:15:34.000 and then shooed them home.
00:15:36.040 I heard about this online from a Montreal resident
00:15:40.140 who was in the synagogue.
00:15:41.860 His name is Beryl Solomon, and he joins us now.
00:15:44.680 Vaiskai, Beryl, nice to meet you.
00:15:46.060 Thanks for being here.
00:15:47.280 Thank you for having me.
00:15:48.080 Did I accurately represent what happened
00:15:50.400 on Yom Kippur earlier this week?
00:15:52.140 Why don't you tell us where you were,
00:15:54.640 what it looked like, and how it transpired?
00:15:58.000 Yeah, so it was accurate.
00:16:01.240 We were all praying at the last part.
00:16:04.960 You hit on something very, very important.
00:16:07.800 It's up for interpretation,
00:16:10.180 and we're living in crazy times,
00:16:12.680 and I think that everybody's trying to do their best,
00:16:14.660 but this is where doing your best begins becoming problematic,
00:16:19.780 is the day before the police had showed up,
00:16:22.940 they said we were respecting all of our duties.
00:16:27.140 Everything that we had to do, we were respecting.
00:16:28.980 The next day, another new police officer showed up
00:16:32.540 and said that we were not,
00:16:33.860 and therefore, everybody had to vacate the premise
00:16:36.380 during the highest part of the day,
00:16:39.320 which is called Nailah during Yom Kippur.
00:16:41.240 It's the highest prayer of the day.
00:16:43.040 It's like really the crescendo of the whole prayer service,
00:16:46.600 and the rabbi had asked the police officer
00:16:49.340 if we could have, you know,
00:16:50.400 we needed about 20 more minutes to finish up.
00:16:52.540 He said you have 10,
00:16:53.360 and everybody has to get out of the building,
00:16:55.200 and the police officers stood there in their car,
00:16:59.360 and they were telling everybody,
00:17:01.800 go home, go home, go home, 0.82
00:17:03.100 and they were causing people to leave,
00:17:06.260 and it just created a mass panic for absolutely no reason,
00:17:11.360 and I was raised, you know,
00:17:14.400 I was raised to say,
00:17:16.300 when you see something, say something,
00:17:18.560 meaning when you see that there's an injustice,
00:17:20.960 stand up to it and face it dead on,
00:17:23.960 and that's what I decided to do.
00:17:25.700 After this experience,
00:17:27.480 I took out my phone,
00:17:29.860 and I shared and documented what had just happened
00:17:32.180 and what had just transpired at my synagogue,
00:17:36.080 and there were other people who had said,
00:17:37.880 well, you know,
00:17:39.180 there was other synagogues that the police showed up to
00:17:41.700 during Yom Kippur,
00:17:43.640 and nothing happened,
00:17:47.380 and they passed inspection,
00:17:50.380 and I said to myself,
00:17:52.340 have we got,
00:17:53.900 when did it become okay for,
00:17:57.140 now we have to be inspected,
00:17:58.680 like am I living in Canada,
00:18:00.120 or am I living in a communist country?
00:18:01.900 Now the synagogue is Beth Chabad Cote St. Luke.
00:18:06.540 I'm familiar with the Chabad synagogues.
00:18:09.420 It's a religious, 0.95
00:18:12.620 it's a more observant denomination,
00:18:15.280 if you use that word of Judaism,
00:18:16.960 but very friendly and very public-facing,
00:18:20.340 very sociable.
00:18:23.560 You said that the day before,
00:18:25.940 other police officers came,
00:18:28.200 sort of checked things out,
00:18:29.240 and gave it the thumbs up.
00:18:31.900 Tell me how it happened.
00:18:34.340 So the police car showed up.
00:18:35.980 Did the police come into the building itself?
00:18:39.180 Did they talk to the rabbi?
00:18:41.340 Did they use loudspeakers?
00:18:43.520 Like how did they introduce themselves?
00:18:45.520 What did they say?
00:18:46.520 And it's sort of a strange negotiation.
00:18:48.480 The rabbi's saying,
00:18:49.480 we just need 20 minutes and we're done,
00:18:50.900 and the cops saying,
00:18:51.940 well, you have 10.
00:18:52.840 I'm not sure if that's a medical determination,
00:18:54.960 if the virus only attacks you
00:18:57.140 on the 11th minute,
00:18:59.400 but not on the 10th.
00:19:00.400 Tell me a little bit more
00:19:01.200 of how it actually went down.
00:19:03.200 And that's what it comes down to,
00:19:04.700 by the way,
00:19:05.400 is this whole thing,
00:19:08.980 in my humble opinion,
00:19:10.060 has gotten so blown out of proportion
00:19:12.060 that, you know,
00:19:14.240 now in Quebec,
00:19:15.640 they just announced
00:19:16.520 that now we're in the red zone,
00:19:17.980 which means that restaurants
00:19:20.760 now have to be shut,
00:19:22.220 and they want to essentially force us
00:19:24.200 back into a shutdown now
00:19:25.580 for the next 28 days.
00:19:26.940 And, you know,
00:19:29.360 I'm a business owner,
00:19:30.600 okay?
00:19:30.960 I had,
00:19:31.600 before Corona,
00:19:32.520 I had 20 people on my payroll,
00:19:34.540 on my staff.
00:19:36.200 20 people that were getting,
00:19:38.160 they were getting paychecks
00:19:39.140 from me every single week.
00:19:40.860 That number has been cut down to two.
00:19:44.060 It was 18 people,
00:19:45.180 now I use those other,
00:19:46.360 those 18 people,
00:19:47.600 I use them as contractors,
00:19:48.960 not all of them,
00:19:49.880 some of them I don't have enough work for.
00:19:52.080 But all those 18 people 0.92
00:19:53.340 are now on,
00:19:54.960 are labeled as contractors.
00:19:57.080 And that's how I pay them.
00:19:57.620 Let me put that aside for a bit.
00:19:58.680 I understand the point
00:19:59.540 about the lockdown
00:20:00.140 and the red zone,
00:20:01.620 which I think is a terrifying phrase
00:20:03.280 designed to terrify.
00:20:05.300 But bring me back
00:20:06.320 to the Yom Kippur Eve itself.
00:20:09.600 It was one police car
00:20:10.920 with two officers,
00:20:11.960 is that how it was?
00:20:12.560 One police car,
00:20:13.380 two officers,
00:20:14.000 they came into the building,
00:20:15.380 they asked,
00:20:15.940 they asked who's the organizer here.
00:20:18.140 The rabbi said,
00:20:18.960 this is on the second day.
00:20:20.140 The first day was not a problem.
00:20:22.660 The first day they said,
00:20:23.680 okay, you're fine,
00:20:24.600 you pass inspection,
00:20:26.080 everything looks kosher.
00:20:28.160 And that's the problem,
00:20:29.100 is it's up for interpretation.
00:20:30.600 So when the day they came back
00:20:32.500 the second time,
00:20:33.220 the different officers,
00:20:34.460 the rabbi said,
00:20:35.320 we just need 20 minutes
00:20:36.140 to finish up.
00:20:36.800 The cops said,
00:20:37.280 it's end.
00:20:37.300 We need 20 minutes to finish.
00:20:38.280 It was 7.20.
00:20:39.420 He said,
00:20:39.640 we need it to 7.40.
00:20:40.720 He said,
00:20:41.220 the police officer said,
00:20:43.580 at 7.30,
00:20:44.140 everybody has to be out
00:20:45.020 of the building.
00:20:47.100 Did he give him an or else?
00:20:49.060 I mean,
00:20:49.200 sometimes when cops
00:20:50.920 want you to do things,
00:20:51.980 they just sort of declare it.
00:20:55.640 And did he say an or else,
00:20:58.220 or else you get fined,
00:20:59.840 or else I'll give tickets,
00:21:01.640 or else you'll be arrested?
00:21:03.340 Or did he just say,
00:21:04.560 everybody done in 10 minutes?
00:21:06.500 Because I've had enough experience
00:21:07.980 with police recently
00:21:08.820 to know that sometimes
00:21:10.120 they just speak
00:21:10.880 with great authoritative tone
00:21:12.880 and people obey them.
00:21:14.400 Could I tell you,
00:21:16.200 I actually don't have a problem
00:21:17.540 with police in general.
00:21:18.680 I actually have a lot of respect
00:21:19.780 for police officers.
00:21:21.660 I feel that
00:21:22.460 what Corona has done
00:21:24.240 is it has turned,
00:21:25.780 you know,
00:21:26.520 it has turned somebody
00:21:27.460 that is supposed
00:21:28.620 to be policing
00:21:29.400 and protecting
00:21:30.080 into using those resources
00:21:32.100 to check on our synagogue.
00:21:34.200 Meaning,
00:21:35.100 those police officers,
00:21:36.500 how nice would it have been
00:21:37.720 if they were there
00:21:38.840 to protect us
00:21:39.620 during Yom Kippur?
00:21:40.520 You know,
00:21:40.720 let's be honest,
00:21:41.340 the Jewish community
00:21:42.080 is a target,
00:21:44.100 unfortunately,
00:21:45.000 and God forbid.
00:21:45.880 So what did,
00:21:46.920 so there was no or else,
00:21:48.100 they just said,
00:21:48.640 everybody out in 10 minutes?
00:21:49.920 Everybody out in 10 minutes
00:21:50.940 and they stood there
00:21:51.660 shaking,
00:21:52.660 asking people to leave,
00:21:53.820 you must leave,
00:21:54.400 you must leave,
00:21:55.000 they said,
00:21:55.520 allons-y in French,
00:21:56.500 which means let's go.
00:21:58.020 They were saying,
00:21:58.380 allons-y.
00:21:58.860 And again,
00:22:00.420 I'm not,
00:22:02.120 the police,
00:22:02.820 at the end of the day,
00:22:03.520 are just doing their job.
00:22:05.000 Well.
00:22:05.320 This thing,
00:22:05.800 this thing has gone way too far.
00:22:07.300 Did anyone in the synagogue
00:22:08.860 object other than the rabbi 0.66
00:22:10.580 saying,
00:22:11.020 give us 10 more minutes?
00:22:11.940 Was there any dissent?
00:22:14.500 Was there any emotion show?
00:22:15.960 Did anyone cry?
00:22:17.140 Of course,
00:22:17.240 everybody was upset.
00:22:19.720 Everybody was upset.
00:22:20.760 And did anyone say anything
00:22:22.320 back to the police?
00:22:25.080 One of the reasons why
00:22:26.280 I think Jewish people
00:22:27.220 get picked on
00:22:27.980 is because we don't fight.
00:22:29.620 We're not fighters.
00:22:31.500 We're not fighters.
00:22:32.960 We respect the law.
00:22:34.740 A police officer
00:22:35.500 asked us to leave
00:22:36.360 if it's on the holiest day.
00:22:37.820 We're going to leave.
00:22:38.820 Well,
00:22:39.160 I mean,
00:22:40.480 there's a matter of
00:22:42.980 entering private property
00:22:44.200 without a warrant.
00:22:45.740 There's a matter of
00:22:46.560 a police officer
00:22:47.240 saying something,
00:22:48.020 but what is the underlying law
00:22:49.280 that gives him
00:22:50.080 the authority
00:22:50.540 to command that?
00:22:51.640 Let me ask you this.
00:22:52.340 It's been several days now.
00:22:54.120 Everyone complied
00:22:55.340 with this police officer,
00:22:56.460 sounds like.
00:22:57.340 Has the synagogue 0.84
00:22:58.160 protested in any way?
00:23:00.200 Has it sent a letter
00:23:01.100 to the police
00:23:02.220 or any other authorities?
00:23:03.560 So, yes,
00:23:04.040 they have been,
00:23:05.060 the mayor of the city
00:23:06.480 has been in touch with,
00:23:07.980 the mayor of the city
00:23:09.620 of Cote-en-Luc
00:23:10.280 has been in touch
00:23:11.140 with the synagogue
00:23:12.060 and the police department
00:23:15.940 has been contacted
00:23:16.960 and there is a meeting
00:23:18.180 underway this week
00:23:19.540 between the head 0.69
00:23:21.080 of the police department
00:23:22.740 and the mayor
00:23:24.140 of the city
00:23:24.880 and the synagogue
00:23:26.360 to get to the bottom
00:23:27.420 of what happened.
00:23:28.320 Well, I think we have
00:23:30.300 to keep an eye
00:23:30.880 on these things.
00:23:32.160 The red zone,
00:23:33.440 I mean,
00:23:34.000 we were all told
00:23:35.040 two weeks to flatten
00:23:36.040 the curve,
00:23:36.620 two weeks to save
00:23:38.200 our hospitals.
00:23:40.020 It's been six months now.
00:23:42.200 I think it's longer
00:23:42.920 than six months.
00:23:43.880 Yeah, and,
00:23:44.680 you know,
00:23:46.280 this whole,
00:23:46.920 sorry,
00:23:48.380 the law says
00:23:49.880 you have 10 minutes
00:23:50.820 in a synagogue,
00:23:51.700 not 20.
00:23:52.540 It's awfully arbitrary.
00:23:53.820 I look forward to hearing
00:23:54.640 how this is resolved.
00:23:56.100 Beryl,
00:23:56.440 I appreciate you taking
00:23:57.420 the time to tell us
00:23:58.180 the story.
00:23:59.560 Thank you so much
00:24:00.400 for your time.
00:24:00.980 All right,
00:24:01.320 there you have it,
00:24:01.820 Beryl Solomon,
00:24:03.240 who was at the Beth Chabad
00:24:05.940 Cote St. Luke Synagogue
00:24:07.460 on Yom Kippur
00:24:08.720 when two police officers
00:24:10.580 came in
00:24:11.020 and told everyone
00:24:11.760 to get up.
00:24:13.700 Stay with us.
00:24:14.500 More ahead.
00:24:14.780 Welcome back to my monologue
00:24:27.700 last night.
00:24:28.300 Gabriel writes,
00:24:29.460 other than Rocco,
00:24:30.260 where are the lawyers
00:24:30.860 across Canada
00:24:31.580 suing the government?
00:24:33.000 Why are the lawyers
00:24:33.680 so cowardly?
00:24:35.180 Well,
00:24:35.600 I'll have a lawyer
00:24:36.180 on tomorrow's show
00:24:37.500 and we'll talk about
00:24:38.500 that very subject.
00:24:39.620 So tune in then.
00:24:40.200 On my interview
00:24:42.160 with Benjamin Weingarten
00:24:43.080 on the presidential debate,
00:24:44.120 CeCe writes,
00:24:45.800 the free world
00:24:46.300 stands with Trump.
00:24:47.060 Is he perfect?
00:24:47.640 Hell no.
00:24:48.340 But if America is to
00:24:49.200 survive this current
00:24:49.920 Marxist attack,
00:24:51.120 Trump is the only man
00:24:51.900 for the job.
00:24:53.080 It's rather terrifying
00:24:54.200 that so much rests
00:24:55.100 on the survival
00:24:55.860 and victory of one man,
00:24:57.300 isn't it?
00:24:58.780 Well,
00:24:59.160 that's our show for today.
00:25:00.080 Until tomorrow,
00:25:01.100 on behalf of all of us
00:25:01.940 here at Rebel World
00:25:02.640 Headquarters,
00:25:03.140 to you at home,
00:25:03.720 good night,
00:25:04.080 and keep fighting
00:25:05.140 for freedom.