Rebel News Podcast - Joe Biden's ‘United Nations First’ vision for America

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00:01:43.860 Joe Biden wants to bring the United States back into the Paris Agreement. What does that mean

00:01:50.460 for the American economy? I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:02:12.240 As opposed to President Donald Trump's very successful America First agenda, it looks like

00:02:18.440 Democrat candidate for President Joe Biden is running on a United Nations first, America last

00:02:25.160 vision of the United States. Look at this. It's right from old geriatric Joe's own website.

00:02:32.420 Joe Biden knows how to stand with America's allies, stand up to adversaries and level with any world

00:02:39.780 leader about what must be done. He will not only recommit the United States to the Paris Agreement on

00:02:46.260 climate change, he will go much further than that. He will lead an effort to get every major country to

00:02:53.280 ramp up the ambition of their domestic climate targets. He will make sure those commitments

00:02:59.220 are transparent and enforceable and stop countries from cheating by using America's economic leverage and

00:03:06.940 power of example. He will fully integrate climate change into our foreign policy and national security

00:03:14.320 strategies as well as our approach to trade. Now friends, do you really think Joe Biden is going to

00:03:20.380 convince China's imperialist communists to hobble their own economy while Joe Biden cripples his own

00:03:26.860 to please the United Nations? China very nearly uses more coal than the rest of the world combined.

00:03:33.380 That's not going to stop. Under Trump, the United States is experiencing an energy renaissance

00:03:39.320 and Biden is openly campaigning on killing it along with his anti-fracking running mate Kamala Harris.

00:03:48.280 So joining me tonight to talk about what a Biden-Harris win would mean for America energy

00:03:53.960 independence and the American worker is Tom Harris of the International Climate Science Coalition.

00:04:09.320 So joining me now from his home in Ottawa is good friend of the network, good friend of the show,

00:04:21.840 Tom Harris of the International Climate Science Coalition. Tom, thanks for coming on the show.

00:04:28.080 I think we're about three, maybe almost four weeks, but I think it's closer to three weeks away from

00:04:33.920 the American election. And you and I are both Canadian, but I think like me, you probably watch

00:04:40.720 American politics pretty closely. For me, I think, look at all the money they're making, just drilling

00:04:47.460 and exporting gas and oil. And we can't even get a pipeline built here in 10 years. Tell me,

00:04:55.880 you have some thoughts on Joe Biden and his, what's the right word, his enthusiasm to rejoin the Paris

00:05:08.960 Accord? Oh yeah, it's ridiculous. Biden has put out this multi-thousand word webpage. It's entitled

00:05:15.160 The Biden Plan for a Clean Energy Revolution and Environmental Justice. Well, apparently it's not

00:05:22.400 going to be environmental justice for the U.S. It's going to be environmental justice for China. 0.56

00:05:28.480 In fact, I hope tomorrow I'll have an article in America Out Loud on americaoutloud.com,

00:05:34.000 which talks about this. But here's what he says in his Biden plan, that he will not allow other 0.92

00:05:40.260 nations, including China, to game the system by becoming a destination economies for polluters,

00:05:46.740 et cetera. Ah, now how did China gain the system? They gained the system largely through 0.73

00:05:52.400 the Paris Agreement, because not only did they not have to make any reductions in emissions until

00:05:58.020 2030, whereas of course the U.S. and us are expected to do it right away. But there's actually

00:06:03.340 an out clause for China. And believe it or not, China is still considered a developing nation,

00:06:09.120 according to the Paris Agreement. The fact that they put out twice as much emissions as the U.S.

00:06:14.080 doesn't seem to bother Biden. But regardless, here's what Biden also said. And this is completely

00:06:19.980 contradictory of the idea that he's going to try and prevent China from gaming the system. He says,

00:06:25.140 a Biden administration will re-enter the Paris Agreement on day one of the Biden administration.

00:06:32.640 The Paris Agreement was an historic breakthrough for the world, reflecting the power of patience,

00:06:38.380 strategic diplomacy in the service of America's long-term national interests. Well, what a joke.

00:06:44.800 I mean, Paris was historic, all right. It was a demonstration of how well China uses useful 0.98

00:06:51.040 idiots in the West to game the system while making it seem like it's an equal and balanced agreement.

00:06:57.780 But of course it isn't. I mean, not only are the targets entirely different, China, as I say,

00:07:02.300 has no limits till 2030, but the whole agreement. And in fact, it says right here in the Paris Agreement,

00:07:07.940 I'll just read you a couple of quotes. Very few people actually read this. It says,

00:07:11.800 the parties to this agreement, being parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate

00:07:17.380 Change. Okay, there's one reference. A little later, it says, in pursuit of the UNFCCC convention

00:07:23.940 and being guided by its principles. Oh, okay. So Paris is based on the UNFCCC. And what are its

00:07:31.740 principles? This is worth really reading because it also shows how Canada is being taken for a ride.

00:07:37.320 It says Article 4 in the UNFCCC. And remember, the Paris Agreement is based on the UNFCCC and makes

00:07:45.200 direct reference to it. The extent to which developing country parties will effectively

00:07:50.920 implement their commitments under the convention will depend on the effective implementation by

00:07:56.680 developed country parties of their commitments under the convention related to the financial

00:08:03.180 resources and transfer of technology. Okay, so we got to give them a whole lot in that category.

00:08:10.120 But here's the killer. We'll take fully into account that economic and social development

00:08:15.420 and poverty eradication are the first and overriding priorities of the developing country parties.

00:08:22.940 And that's the key phrase. Because if that takes priority over everything else,

00:08:27.940 then you can be 100% sure that China will not close down their coal-fired stations

00:08:33.200 to meet emission target reductions. Because their first and overriding priority

00:08:37.740 is poverty alleviation and development. And you don't get that by closing your least expensive source

00:08:44.640 of power. And of course, more than half of China's power comes from coal. So what it really means

00:08:50.540 is not only do we have to give them all that money and technology, but even then they don't have to

00:08:56.000 meet the targets, because they don't have to close their coal stations. So Biden is saying on the one

00:09:01.260 hand, he's not going to let them game the system. But then he's using the primary tool with which

00:09:07.460 China is gaming the system. And he's saying we're going to get right back into it. So obviously, 0.94

00:09:13.180 he's trying to plead both sides of the debate at the same time. You can't say you're not going to

00:09:19.100 let China game the system, but then join the Paris Agreement, which lets them gain the system.

00:09:24.540 It's ridiculous.

00:09:26.760 Well, and it's typical Biden craziness to say something like, we're going to hand over,

00:09:31.920 really, control of our economy to a bunch of unelected, unaccountable people at the United

00:09:37.880 Nations, because really, that's what the Paris Accord does. It controls your economy. And that's

00:09:44.620 the number one thing that Biden says that he's going to do. Not tackle the economic challenges

00:09:50.920 of the entire world that the entire world is facing. America is not unique in this caused by the

00:09:56.720 coronavirus lockdown. He said it's in the national interest to give away control of his country to

00:10:02.720 the United Nations. Just to even think about that for a second. Just think about what would have

00:10:09.840 happened to the American manufacturing if, and they were able to turn their manufacturing centers

00:10:19.080 on a dime to ramp up PPE production during the pandemic. Imagine trying to do that on solar and

00:10:26.280 wind. Yeah, I know. And Biden's talking about, you know, it's over a trillion dollars going into

00:10:32.480 so-called clean energy. Of course, if anybody who watched Michael Moore's film, Planet of the Humans,

00:10:38.640 knows that wind and solar are actually very dirty energy. They're anything but clean. But Biden,

00:10:44.500 of course, along with the liberals, are pushing this whole mantra that this is clean wind and

00:10:49.840 solar power as if it somehow magically falls out of the sky. But yeah, I mean, if Trump is not

00:10:55.720 reelected, the U.S. is going to massively cripple itself by essentially allowing China to continue on 0.98

00:11:03.600 hoodwinking us all. Well, they're going to take Alberta with it if America cripples itself. And I 0.97

00:11:12.280 say this because one part of Keystone XL pipeline construction has doubled the population in one small

00:11:21.300 Alberta town called Oyen. I think normally about 900 souls call Oyen town. Now they have an additional

00:11:28.300 1000 workers in town. It's probably the only boom town in the country right now. Definitely Alberta. 0.95

00:11:35.200 And that's because after Keystone XL languished on President Obama's desk until near death, it was

00:11:42.960 revived by President Trump. And it's been the lifeline that Alberta has needed. And it's very interesting

00:11:50.980 to see some of the official conservative types in this country express some Trump hate, Trump doubt at

00:11:59.500 least. And you think, aren't you guys conservatives? Aren't you the oil and gas conservatives in this

00:12:05.120 country? If you don't like Trump, just zip your lip at least for the interest of everybody else. They

00:12:09.940 just can't do it, though. Yeah, exactly. And not only that, we're sadly seeing the current conservative

00:12:15.580 leadership in Canada going after the Paris Agreement, as if similar to Trump, sorry, similar

00:12:21.260 to Biden. It's the greatest thing since sliced bread. They don't realize that we're being taken

00:12:26.420 for a ride by a number of developing countries, especially China. And of course, accepting the

00:12:33.140 climate scare in the first place doesn't make sense for a conservative party leader. And he's doing it,

00:12:39.060 unfortunately. I don't really understand the logic behind it. Because even if Canada were to cease to

00:12:44.560 exist completely, it would have no impact on world emissions, even if world emissions did control

00:12:50.480 climate, because we're only 1.6 percent of world emissions. So there's no sense whatsoever for us

00:12:56.120 to stay in Paris. What we need to do, though, is help people adapt to climate change, because climate

00:13:01.740 change always happens. And that's the whole point where this argument, even for the left, has become

00:13:07.500 grossly immoral. I mean, right now across the world, we're spending more than a billion US dollars a day

00:13:14.140 on climate change. And 95 percent of it goes to try to stop climate change at some point in the future

00:13:20.840 that might occur due to computer model forecasts. I mean, that don't work. Only 5 percent of it is

00:13:27.620 dedicated entirely to adaptation. Now, that's a real problem, because if you think about it, there are

00:13:33.460 places in the world, in the Sahel and Africa and in northern Canada, where natural climate variability

00:13:39.580 requires that we adapt. OK, and societies that have not adapted are not with us anymore.

00:13:46.100 So what the Conservatives really should be saying is focus on adaptation, because Canada certainly

00:13:51.580 can't even reduce world emissions significantly, let alone control climate change. But the whole idea

00:13:57.060 that even humanity can control climate change is really nuts. But we should focus on adaptation.

00:14:03.620 And that's a sensible approach. You know, I'll give you an example. In India, for example,

00:14:08.840 all along the coast of the Bay of Bengal, which is where they get most of their cyclones, which are

00:14:13.340 what they call hurricanes, they have storm shelters, multi-story concrete storm shelters built on huge

00:14:20.480 stilts so that every kilometer, they're situated all along the coast. So an Indian doesn't have to walk 0.87

00:14:26.860 more than a half a kilometer to get to safety. And then they engage in vertical evacuation. They just

00:14:32.800 go above the waves and they stay there for a few days until it's safe to come down. And the United

00:14:38.000 States doesn't have this all along the coast of Texas and Florida and Louisiana. They have to engage

00:14:43.420 in what's called horizontal evacuation, jump in their car, drive like crazy and stick in a traffic jam.

00:14:50.020 So, I mean, yes, the U.S. should spend money on adapting to climate change, burying cables underground,

00:14:55.640 all kinds of things, because climate will change. And of course, extreme weather will happen.

00:15:01.640 But the idea that we control it, of course, is ridiculous. So both the Democrats in the U.S.

00:15:06.960 and the liberals in Canada are completely off base. I mean, the focus should be on adaptation,

00:15:13.040 not Paris and trying to control the world's climate. That's a huge waste of money.

00:15:18.800 You know, it's funny that you speak of adaptation, because it seems to me

00:15:23.160 the people who push the climate scare are also the people who are against some of the best forms of

00:15:30.540 adaptation. And that's crop science. They're vehemently opposed to crop science, creating

00:15:36.680 better, hardier crops that either work better and grow faster with a greater yield in drought conditions,

00:15:45.440 or in the case of Canada, that grow in, you know, colder climates like canola. Canola is a marvel of

00:15:55.900 modern science. And people don't realize that sitting in your fridge is margarine. And the people who are,

00:16:03.060 you know, who are very scared of the impending climate change catastrophe are also the ones who are so

00:16:11.680 opposed to GMOs. It's very strange. They're also very opposed to nuclear power. If we were trying to

00:16:18.480 reduce carbon dioxide emissions, then obviously nuclear is a sensible solution. But while there's

00:16:24.500 lots of good reasons for nuclear, it's not going to stop climate change. You know, it's interesting,

00:16:30.160 Sheila, one of the biggest climate alarmist organizations in the world is the World Nuclear

00:16:36.140 Association out of the UK. I mean, they're essentially getting on the climate change bandwagon

00:16:41.860 because, of course, why are nuclear reactors? Stop climate change. I mean, good grief. It's sad

00:16:48.260 because I know a number of people in the nuclear industry who've said, look, there's good reasons

00:16:52.480 for nuclear power if it's done properly and safely, etc. But stopping climate change, I mean, that is not

00:16:58.960 one of them. So, I mean, anybody who's got on this bandwagon eventually will be disgraced. But I guess

00:17:05.280 going back to the U.S. for a second, I mean, I think Biden's trying to please both sides. He's

00:17:10.380 saying, we're going to protect American workers. But then he's saying, we're going to get back in

00:17:14.400 the climate, Paris Climate Accord. But the two are contradictory. I mean, if you're protecting

00:17:19.960 American workers, you do exactly what Trump did and you get out of these stupid agreements. In fact,

00:17:25.640 if Trump becomes president again after this, if he's reelected, and I hope he is, quite frankly,

00:17:30.720 then the next step should be to get out of this silly framework convention on climate change

00:17:36.460 completely. Okay. And that would allow them to be automatically out of anything that's based on

00:17:42.360 the framework convention, which would be Paris. And, you know, I have a quote here from Joe Bast,

00:17:48.260 who is a director and senior fellow at the Heartland Institute in the United States. He said,

00:17:53.380 this is really a case where cutting the tail off the dog all at once, rather than an inch at a time

00:18:00.140 is the right move. It would be that is getting out of the whole framework convention. He says,

00:18:05.700 it would be the shot heard round the world and bring the whole man-made global warming house of

00:18:11.420 cards tumbling down. So Mr. Bast is totally right. And I hope Trump has a chance to enable that.

00:18:18.700 Yeah. It's funny that Joe Biden would talk about protecting the American worker

00:18:23.920 when his policies stand to make American electricity, some of the most expensive in the world.

00:18:33.040 And that would absolutely obliterate manufacturing as we saw play out in real time in Ontario when

00:18:39.240 these things were already tried once. Oh yeah, exactly. I mean, back in 2002,

00:18:43.540 2002, we got about a quarter of our electricity from coal in Ontario and we had the lowest rates

00:18:49.060 in the country. Ontario was booming. But then Dalton McGinty actually said, no, we're going to get rid

00:18:55.340 of coal. We're going to save, stop climate change. And he swore that they'd get rid of it. And sure

00:19:01.820 enough, they have. And the last I checked, Ontario prices right now, you know, averaged over the day

00:19:08.420 at the peak time of day actually is what I'm thinking. We're about, it's about 200% higher

00:19:15.020 than it was in 2002. So here you have liberals saying, oh, we want to champion the rights of

00:19:21.860 the poor and the oppressed, social justice. But then they take steps which make it harder on the

00:19:28.120 poor than anybody. A 200% rise in electricity rates doesn't hurt the rich. So Ontario is a perfect

00:19:34.180 example. And I tell this to my American friends, if you follow Biden's approach, you're going to get

00:19:40.000 what we have in Ontario. Huge debt. I think, yes, Ontario has the greatest sub-sovereign debt

00:19:45.660 of any jurisdiction in the world. And that's largely because our electricity prices have gone through

00:19:52.540 the roof and we're wasting billions and billions of dollars on bird and bat killing machines called 0.98

00:19:58.400 industrial wind turbines, which as Shelley Correa and others have probably told you are horrible to

00:20:04.040 live beside as well. I mean, with the infrasound they produce. So yeah, Ontario, great example of

00:20:09.680 what not to do. Well, and in the end, particulates in the atmosphere didn't reduce the way they were

00:20:19.140 promised. I think the Fraser Institute did an analysis of this a few years ago and they measured

00:20:24.720 like pre-coal phase-out and post-coal phase-out particulates in the atmosphere. And it was like

00:20:30.120 absolutely negligible. There's a fly in my studio. And as long as it doesn't land on my head,

00:20:35.180 like, like I'm the vice president, things are going to be just fine. I wanted to talk to you

00:20:41.500 about the plastics ban because like, I know that wasn't on the list of things to talk about,

00:20:47.760 but as you were talking about Canada's CO2 emissions, what a perfect layover with the plastics ban,

00:20:57.100 because I think the plastics, like the plastic in the oceans, I think Canada counts for, I think,

00:21:04.520 four-tenths of one percent as a source country of single-use plastics that are floating around

00:21:11.540 the world's shorelines. And yet, for some reason, it's my plastic straw here in the middle of

00:21:19.540 Nowheresville, Alberta, that's ending up in the nostril of a sea turtle somewhere in the ocean. It doesn't

00:21:25.680 make any sense. And it's just like the Paris Accord, like the carbon tax, it's pointless virtue

00:21:31.900 signaling, because as Canadians, we are just a statistical rounding error.

00:21:36.520 Well, that's right. I believe it was Scientific American had an interesting article in the past

00:21:40.780 couple of years about where all the plastic's coming from. And something like 65% of it is coming

00:21:46.840 from Southeast Asia, from China, from other countries, because a lot of, you know, the recycling

00:21:52.160 that we do is apparently not being reproduced in places like China. They just dump it all in the 0.95

00:21:57.280 river, and it all flows into the ocean. So until you can get China on board with these kinds of 1.00

00:22:02.820 things, the amount of, you know, impact that Canada has is essentially zero. And that's the big

00:22:09.860 problem. I mean, China, you know, Biden says he's going to hold China accountable. Oh, yeah, like, 0.92

00:22:14.580 how are you going to do that, Mr. Biden, especially if you're signing a treaty that gives them all the

00:22:19.540 privileges of developing nations. So yeah, the plastics thing is the same thing. I mean,

00:22:24.960 whether we're working on a real problem, and to a considerable extent, the plastics problem is a

00:22:30.360 real problem, or we're working on a make believe problem, which is the global warming one, giving

00:22:35.420 all these benefits and overlooking the problems that China is causing is nuts. And that's why in the 0.97

00:22:42.160 article that will be published tomorrow, the headline I'm suggesting is Biden for China.

00:22:47.580 Yeah, that should be his bumper sticker. And the same thing with Trudeau. I mean, so often these

00:22:53.500 policies are favoring the dictatorship that he said a while ago that he admires because they're

00:22:59.440 efficient. Oh, yeah, sure. I guess Hitler was pretty efficient, too. But the fact is, we're being 0.79

00:23:06.280 taken for a ride. I mean, Joe, Joe Biden, and it's quite funny, because I'll just read you a little

00:23:10.740 quote here that he said in one of his particularly outrageous speeches during the campaign. He said,

00:23:18.660 China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man. They're not bad folks. Yeah. Well, of course, 1.00

00:23:26.280 Trump has pointed out that not only are they going to eat our lunch, they've been eating it for years.

00:23:30.640 Yeah. Okay. And Trump, and I'm so glad he gave that speech at the UN. You know, it was a videotaped

00:23:35.960 speech in which he says China has to be held accountable for the COVID disaster. So I mean, 0.84

00:23:42.000 that's the kind of leadership we need in Canada, too. We don't need weak-kneed conservatives sort of

00:23:47.020 bending over backwards to appear politically correct. We want people like O'Toole to actually

00:23:52.220 stand up and say what's real. Namely, look, if you really want to solve the plastic problem,

00:23:57.580 go after China. If you want to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, go after China. Not that greenhouse

00:24:03.620 gas emissions matter. Yeah. But regardless, this business of Canada first, you know, we're going

00:24:09.860 to solve these problems, like Kraychan said when he first signed on to the Kyoto Protocol. No, come on.

00:24:16.020 It's stupid. Well, and they don't want to think outside the box, outside of anything other than

00:24:21.560 banning it. Yeah. You know, like there are solutions. Plastic, I think, is a magical

00:24:27.560 wonderful thing. It's mostly, it's mostly inert. It's sanitary. It really saved the day during the

00:24:34.600 COVID crisis. Oh, totally. If we decimate the plastics industry now, which is what they stand

00:24:40.620 to do, where are they to step up to save us from the next pandemic? They won't be around and nobody

00:24:46.340 sees it that way. Nobody sees a solution to the plastics problem that isn't banning it or expensive

00:24:55.220 recycling. Because sometimes recycling is a pretty big scam too, where the energy inputs to recycle

00:25:02.320 are much higher than just going and getting the new thing out of the mine or wherever. I don't see

00:25:09.660 why we are so opposed to incineration. If we look at plastic as though it's an inert, locked fossil fuel,

00:25:17.060 and that's energy that we can burn to use for electricity, what a great solution for the

00:25:22.620 developing world to deal with their garbage problem. Oh yeah, totally. And in fact, you know,

00:25:26.620 it's interesting that applies to a few fields like used oil, for example. A few years ago,

00:25:32.000 I worked on a project with a group called Clean Burn. And what they did is they developed a very nice

00:25:37.800 industrial furnace, which they put into garages so that when cars are serviced, they can burn the oil

00:25:44.220 for heat. And, you know, they maintained, and I haven't seen the life cycle analysis, but this was

00:25:49.580 a more effective, environmentally friendly way to deal with used oil than to gather it all up and

00:25:56.180 to reprocess and recycle it. You know, it's interesting, Sheila, because there's one other

00:26:02.280 material that's not worth recycling, and that is a glass. If you think about it, glass is simply made

00:26:09.200 from sand. And there was a study done years ago in Sweden, which showed that the cost and

00:26:14.920 environmental impact to gather up all the glass across the world and to crush it up and reuse it

00:26:21.060 was actually worse than if you just simply threw it in a landfill and let it decay over the centuries.

00:26:26.260 So, you know, you really have to do a proper emotionless life cycle analysis. Looking at

00:26:33.300 compact fluorescent light bulbs, for example, that was supposed to be the be-all and the end-all

00:26:37.760 to get rid of incandescent lights. But people hadn't done a life cycle analysis because, of course,

00:26:43.380 they contain mercury, and you've got to somehow dispose of the mercury. Now, LEDs are actually a

00:26:48.960 great solution. They're going to be, I think, the next compact, they're going to be the next

00:26:53.900 incandescent light. Eventually, they'll replace them all. But, you know, none of these environmental

00:27:00.040 groups are doing proper life cycle analysis, saying, how much does it cost to recycle plastic?

00:27:05.960 What's the environmental impact of just throwing it in the ground or burning it, as you suggest?

00:27:10.360 If you burn it cleanly through proper furnaces, then, indeed, you're saving oil, you're saving natural

00:27:16.560 resources. So all of these things have to be assessed in a scientific and engineering economic sort of way.

00:27:23.300 Not just, oh, we're going to stop climate change. We're going to save the world from plastic.

00:27:28.420 I mean, these are just simply, as you say, virtue signaling. That's all it is.

00:27:34.640 Yeah, I can't even believe that we live in a time and place in human history where we need the advice

00:27:41.920 of a Swedish teenager before we go ahead with any sort of modern, marvelous innovation in humankind.

00:27:51.060 It's a very strange time to be alive. Tom, I wanted to give you a chance to let everybody know

00:27:57.420 where they can find your work, find some of the advocacy that they do, and even better yet,

00:28:03.460 support to the work that you do. Because unlike the green movement, we don't get a lot of foreign

00:28:10.600 funding and deep pockets on our side of the aisle, do we?

00:28:13.660 No. Well, yeah, I work with the International Climate Science Coalition, and you can see us

00:28:19.580 on the web at climatescienceinternational.org. And, you know, I always promote one particular website

00:28:26.540 in particular, and that is climatechangereconsidered.org. Because that includes reports from the

00:28:34.900 non-governmental international panel on climate change, which show that there are thousands of

00:28:40.400 scientists around the world who either doubt or definitely disagree with the climate scare.

00:28:46.640 People can get in there. It's very well written. It has summaries of each chapter. If you want to dig

00:28:51.300 into details, they're all there right on climatechangereconsidered.org.

00:28:55.920 And the podcast?

00:28:59.660 Oh, my podcast. Yeah, the best way to find it, you can go to our homepage. The first,

00:29:04.300 second item on our homepage is an interview with Ian Clark. We've done a lot since then.

00:29:09.140 It's called Exploratory Journeys with Tom Harris. And we get into all kinds of things. I mean,

00:29:14.440 one of the most recent ones was an interview with Jarl Katowski, who's a bird and bat expert.

00:29:21.100 And he was vehemently opposed to wind turbines and explains why. So that's kind of fun. You can go

00:29:27.120 to our web, our homepage and see that interview with Clark, Ian Clark, second one down at

00:29:31.680 climatescienceinternational.org. Or if you forget, just search Tom Harris and Exploratory Journeys

00:29:38.500 on Google and it'll pop up.

00:29:41.700 You climate change skeptics are the absolute worst at self-promotion. You know, Michelle Sterling

00:29:47.340 from Friends of Science where she forgets the titles of the books she's written.

00:29:52.700 Well, Sheila, I got to tell you something. I was putting together a bit of a proposal for a

00:29:57.160 potential donor and I was looking around the web and, you know, the best place to see what I've done

00:30:02.940 is actually the smog blog.

00:30:05.020 Yes.

00:30:05.480 It's hilarious. They must have 50,000 words on my nefarious background.

00:30:10.780 So I actually sent it to them and I said, you know, this actually, I take this as a great

00:30:15.440 compliment that they've spent, you know, 50 pages of stuff on my background. My God, I'm an awful evil

00:30:22.200 denier.

00:30:23.720 I like it though, that they are burning up some of that foreign funding just watching us and

00:30:30.200 they're not in some protest line blocking job somewhere. So I mean, the glass is half full.

00:30:36.700 For a while, when you search for my name and climate, the smog blog came up first. And at first

00:30:42.020 I thought, Oh, this is terrible. Then I thought, no, actually it's really good.

00:30:47.700 Yep. Yep. No, it's a glass half full kind of thing. If we keep them busy, they're leaving

00:30:51.960 everybody else alone. Tom, I want to thank you so much for coming on the show. We'll have

00:30:56.260 you back on again very, very soon.

00:30:58.660 Great. Thank you, Sheila.

00:30:59.700 Friends, I'm ready to adapt to any changes in the climate if they are indeed happening.

00:31:15.700 The way humanity has adapted to every challenge our species has ever faced. Unlike climate change

00:31:22.460 fear mongers, I believe in human resiliency, human innovation and hard science. And I don't believe

00:31:28.220 that taxes will change the weather and save us all. That's disproven anti-science quackery.

00:31:34.440 Well, everyone, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody

00:31:38.240 back here in the same time, in the same place next week. And remember, don't let the government

00:31:43.680 tell you that you've had too much to think.

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Rebel News Podcast - October 15, 2020

Joe Biden's ‘United Nations First’ vision for America

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