Rebel News Podcast - “Lockdowns Work if You Don't Want Your Freedoms”： Avi Yemini Exclusive Interview

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00:00:17.680 Donald Trump, don't trust China. China is asshole. 1.00

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00:00:26.700 It is a very short answer. As I mentioned, don't trust China. China is asshole. All the people is asshole. 0.99

00:00:37.260 What gives anyone the right to tell anyone where they can and can't live? 1.00

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00:00:58.400 What gives anyone the right to tell anyone where they can and can't live?

00:01:04.200 Really.

00:01:04.740 Borders and our government.

00:01:06.300 I know borders, but wouldn't it just be nice if we got to a place in society where we had no idea, a utopia, where we all just lived as well?

00:01:17.300 Well, I think if they go in jail, there must be some reason.

00:01:22.100 You don't think that the communist government is a little bit dodgy?

00:01:25.700 No.

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00:01:26.660 No?

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00:01:27.800 Really? The white South Africans now that are about 30 years old stole land? 1.00

00:01:32.400 No, but that's the history of the place. That's the history of South Africa.

00:01:36.400 So they deserve what? A genocide?

00:01:37.960 Can you sign our South African, white South African, we want to bring in the refugees from South Africa?

00:01:41.860 I would prefer if the Rohingya came here first. 1.00

00:01:45.000 Why is that? Is that because they're brown? 0.99

00:01:52.260 Avi Yimeni is an Australian-Israeli reporter.

00:01:55.560 He's known for his work with TR News as an independent YouTuber and, of course, for his work with Rebel News in Australia on fightthefines.com.au.

00:02:03.700 You can find him on Twitter at AzraeliAvi, Instagram, AzraeliAviYimeni, and he has nearly half a million subscribers on YouTube.

00:02:11.660 And while we're here, if you want to go to therebelnewsstore.com, you can use Andrew10 for a discount on all our new merch, including this great cook we have here.

00:02:21.900 Avi, how are you?

00:02:23.520 Where are you?

00:02:24.380 Good night, mate. How you doing?

00:02:26.500 Starting with the accent already. You're going to crack me up. 1.00

00:02:29.520 Are you at home in Australia? Where are you?

00:02:33.720 Yeah, I'm at home at the moment. It's 9 o'clock in the morning. I'm having my morning coffee, getting ready to head to the gym, in my gym wear.

00:02:43.100 Oh, we can't do that here. You're a lucky man.

00:02:45.360 So, I'd like to start these off by mentioning how I first came across the guest.

00:02:50.520 Like so many people, I remember you from your YouTube channel and your work on TR News.

00:02:54.960 My question to you is, what was the moment where you started deciding to do more journalism, more YouTube videos?

00:03:03.460 I mean, I think you started with what, self-defense videos online?

00:03:06.740 How did you make the jump to journalism, so to speak?

00:03:11.380 Well, it wasn't self-defense videos online.

00:03:13.000 I actually owned two 24-hour fighting gyms in Melbourne after the, when I finished my service in the Israeli army.

00:03:21.200 And I guess I kind of fell into it.

00:03:23.320 There was a period where Israel had gone into Gaza in one of these operations.

00:03:28.960 And I remember just watching the mainstream media reporting on it here, our ABC, the Australian Broadcasting News Service.

00:03:36.360 And I was watching it angrily and seeing how they were telling one side of the story.

00:03:44.100 And it certainly wasn't a side of democracy and freedom.

00:03:46.540 And so I just, at the time, we had a, quite a large Facebook presence.

00:03:52.280 And I just started from our business, which was IDF training, because it was Israeli army style self-defense.

00:03:59.480 It was Krav Maga.

00:04:00.340 And I remember I started posting, you know, my thoughts on the situation on the ground as somebody who served for a number of years there in that exact location.

00:04:11.260 And, you know, it caused a little bit of controversy.

00:04:14.120 I think some people did boycott our gym.

00:04:16.460 Not that I cared, because at the end of the day, I thought, well, you're coming to an IDF training gym to learn Israeli Krav Maga.

00:04:24.060 If you don't stand with Israel, then I don't really, I don't even know why you're here. 0.94

00:04:29.600 It's the principles of Israeli self-defense, which is applied in the Israeli army.

00:04:34.680 It's the exact same thing.

00:04:35.640 So the fight that you're learning here, and this is how I justified it to myself and others that tried to give me any kind of advice.

00:04:44.120 So I'm what I should or shouldn't be doing.

00:04:46.020 But after that whole situation ended, it sparked a lot of conversation.

00:04:51.720 And I guess I found a voice, and I did start posting my political opinions on different situations or reporting different things.

00:05:03.120 And I got, I guess, constructive criticism from people whom I don't even know if they aligned with my views at the time.

00:05:11.400 But they just said, we love your gym.

00:05:13.840 I don't know if you should use your platform here where you have two good, successful gyms to push you.

00:05:21.500 Maybe you should.

00:05:21.880 And that's when I opened an Avia Mini Facebook page at the time.

00:05:25.720 And I started, yeah, making videos.

00:05:29.100 And what is it now?

00:05:31.300 It's probably six years later, seven years later.

00:05:35.440 I sold those gyms a couple of years ago.

00:05:37.720 And it's my full-time gig, first at TR and now at my home at Rebel News right here with you.

00:05:48.020 What was the first video you had that was completely politics that blew up?

00:05:53.160 Do you remember?

00:05:53.600 The first one that blew up, probably from memory, and I don't know, I don't have the best memory on these situations.

00:06:06.380 It may have...

00:06:08.600 Unprofessional, Abby.

00:06:11.880 They're trying to interrupt us with the group meeting.

00:06:17.300 The first one that blew up from memory, and my memory is not that great, so if I remember correctly,

00:06:23.380 it possibly was the...

00:06:28.760 Besides for rant...

00:06:29.800 I did a lot of rants at the time to Facebook Live.

00:06:32.500 That's when Facebook was kind of okay, and they didn't censor everyone.

00:06:35.880 But my first proper report was, I think, at a...

00:06:41.020 I went to one of these pro-refugee rallies, and I decided to ask them if they would sign my petition

00:06:50.640 to allow the white... 0.73

00:06:54.020 Well, I framed it, the refugees from South Africa, which were the white farmers.

00:07:01.200 And, yeah, I guess that was probably the first one that really blew up from memory.

00:07:07.160 Well, the one that I wanted to...

00:07:09.320 Go ahead.

00:07:10.540 Yeah.

00:07:11.960 The one that I wanted to comment and ask you about is the one that... 0.99

00:07:16.380 Was it Trump Jr., or who retweeted the China is asshole guy? 0.99

00:07:20.680 Because that's one that went... 1.00

00:07:22.920 That crossed political lines.

00:07:24.540 Oh, yeah.

00:07:26.200 I think that one...

00:07:27.040 That was what...

00:07:28.920 That was the face of 2020, or at least for the first half of 2020, especially after the

00:07:36.800 Wuhan virus.

00:07:38.680 That one did get a lot...

00:07:40.380 So that was actually...

00:07:41.340 That was one of the first times I worked with Rebel News in Hong Kong.

00:07:50.060 So I was working for TR, and Ezra contacted me to see if I would go over to Hong Kong and

00:07:58.000 work, you know, TR alongside Rebel together.

00:08:02.040 And that moment, you know, I reflect on it now, because at the time when we were filming

00:08:10.280 it, like, I didn't think much of it.

00:08:12.780 It was just a passionate guy speaking his mind.

00:08:16.140 And then, I think it even took a month after it was...

00:08:20.440 It was just part of one of the stories we did on the ground during the Hong Kong protests.

00:08:27.540 And suddenly, it was picked up by everyone.

00:08:31.140 When you're in Hong Kong, like, I'm guessing you're not a guy who walks down the street and

00:08:37.340 has fear of being beaten up in Australia or in the UK or whatever.

00:08:42.600 When you're in Hong Kong, is there a different feeling?

00:08:44.980 Like, you know, mainland China doesn't want this place to even...

00:08:50.680 They don't want them to have their own government, their own electoral system.

00:08:53.840 They don't want them to have their own freedom.

00:08:55.440 What's the feeling like when you're in Hong Kong, and especially a person that people 0.99

00:08:59.520 know of, and they might be coming after, were you worried you're going to get kidnapped?

00:09:03.400 What's the feeling like while you're doing journalism in Hong Kong protests?

00:09:07.460 I think now, it's very different now because of the new security law.

00:09:13.160 You know, I've had conversations with Ezra saying, oh, I just want to go back.

00:09:17.280 I want to go back to Hong Kong.

00:09:18.340 And obviously, taking, making that move, going, heading to Hong Kong now comes with that risk

00:09:27.720 of being shipped back to mainland China in breach of that security risk.

00:09:32.740 So, we might have to sit on it and think of it.

00:09:35.540 But, but back when I went, and I went a couple of times, well, the first time I just, I went

00:09:44.620 there as somebody that no one in Hong Kong really knew, just another Western reporter.

00:09:49.160 What I found is that when you're, when you're there, and I think that time maybe Ken was

00:09:57.340 there too, at the time, or that was the second time, I can't remember.

00:10:00.480 But when you, when you walk around, it was just, things were normal unless you, um, headed

00:10:06.020 to the actual protest and you kind of followed them around.

00:10:08.960 It was, it was bizarre because there were pockets of protests that were always moving and the

00:10:14.720 rest of the city was kind of functioning around that.

00:10:17.020 And it's a city that, you know, it goes for, uh, into the night almost, it's almost 24 seven.

00:10:24.280 Then the second time you'd seen a shift towards where we are now, where the protest was more

00:10:32.680 ingrained and everywhere.

00:10:34.220 Um, and it was also very different for me personally, because when I went there, I was already known

00:10:39.780 by Hong Kongers as that Australian that challenged mainlanders in Australia.

00:10:45.120 And some of the videos that I did for TR at the time, um, actually were far more popular

00:10:51.600 in Asia, in Taiwan, Hong Kong, uh, and places like that.

00:10:57.780 Um, so you walk down the street and, and you kind of, you know, you feel the sense of appreciation

00:11:03.520 and love by Hong Kongers that we're doing that work.

00:11:07.260 Um, but now I couldn't tell you, I really miss Hong Kong.

00:11:10.720 Hong Kong's a fantastic place.

00:11:13.220 It's, uh, the people are really nice.

00:11:17.180 They have that gentle, respectful Asian culture, but then they also bring that Western way of

00:11:25.560 thinking and democracy and love for freedom.

00:11:28.940 And they, you know, it's very sad to, to look now and see that, um, really coronaviruses,

00:11:37.580 I think cost the Hong Kongers, this part of the fight because the rest of the world, you know,

00:11:44.740 the world, if you remember before coronavirus, the world was really focused on what was happening

00:11:48.660 on the ground in Hong Kong.

00:11:49.780 Yeah.

00:11:50.280 Suddenly coronavirus were talking about it.

00:11:52.740 Like it was, uh, it was everywhere.

00:11:55.120 Everyone was talking about it.

00:11:56.480 And from the left and the right, it wasn't, it was a, uh, it wasn't a partisan issue.

00:12:01.260 It was everybody cared and it was, it was the one issue that everybody was siding with the

00:12:07.640 Hong Kongers.

00:12:08.300 And since then, you know, uh, coronavirus and the election and we're here today and, uh,

00:12:15.720 people care more about, um, you know, you said mean things to me rather than the arbitrary

00:12:23.640 jailing of, uh, freedom loving people on the front line in the fight against communist China.

00:12:32.080 It's a really bizarre time we live in, but I guess that's why we're here.

00:12:37.340 For sure.

00:12:38.220 And I, I could only imagine what it'd be like there now.

00:12:41.060 When I talk about China versus Hong Kong, I'm reminded of another video of yours where

00:12:47.040 you're interviewing some young, uh, Chinese nationals.

00:12:50.700 I think they're on vacation or they're there for school and that really, that really got

00:12:56.780 me thinking a lot about some stuff.

00:12:58.260 I had just recently watched a documentary on Maoism and how that all happened in China.

00:13:03.900 And I couldn't help but think that a lot of these people that you spoke to, a lot of

00:13:07.240 these kids, they sound a lot like American social justice warriors.

00:13:11.760 And I can't help but think or wonder, and what I'm going to ask you is, is China's dictatorship

00:13:17.600 more an influence of the government on its people, or do you think it's possible that

00:13:22.280 they developed a country full of social justice warriors that basically is almost where America

00:13:27.920 is now, where they believe these, these facets of their culture so much.

00:13:31.840 And they believe in maybe their fake issues, maybe their, their fake, um, virtues that they're

00:13:37.880 believing, believing in that they believed it so much that they decided to vote in the people

00:13:42.020 that agree with them.

00:13:43.700 And these are people that don't particularly pay attention to politics.

00:13:47.200 They don't care if there's censorship.

00:13:48.600 They don't care if the government's reading everything they're saying.

00:13:51.180 They just want to have TikTok and they want to have a video platform.

00:13:57.200 In your opinion, what is it that makes people in China so complicit with their government?

00:14:04.060 Because they must, there must be some degree that they know that the rest of the world

00:14:08.980 sees them as kind of strange, or do they?

00:14:13.540 Um, I think it's a mix of different things.

00:14:15.860 And also, you've got to remember, China is 1.4 billion people.

00:14:20.640 Um, the ones that come here, uh, for school or for holiday, they're not the majority.

00:14:27.300 They're in the minority and they're pretty well set up in China.

00:14:30.120 And most of them would have, uh, some sort of connection to the communist government,

00:14:36.020 um, there, whether they work for them, whether they're just got closed business ties, whatever

00:14:41.440 it is.

00:14:41.880 So I don't think the people that I talk to here are a reflection of the majority in mainland

00:14:48.420 China.

00:14:49.900 Um, I do think that there's a mix of what you're saying.

00:14:53.400 There are some that, there's probably a lot, especially within that class that believe they're

00:14:58.800 standing for what's right.

00:15:00.500 They're nationalists.

00:15:01.360 They believe in their country.

00:15:02.480 They believe in their government as well.

00:15:05.180 They believe in censorship.

00:15:07.100 They believe, they, they truly believe in it.

00:15:10.420 Um, so that's their version of what you'd say, like the social justice warriors we have

00:15:15.860 here.

00:15:16.820 Um, but I think that in China, the difference is, um, and, and what I found is that you can't

00:15:25.340 actually have a rational conversation with, especially those groups because they don't

00:15:31.200 believe anything else outside of China.

00:15:33.520 They've been brainwashed in China, uh, for their entire lives. 0.72

00:15:38.420 Now, the ones again, that, that we see here, they have pretty comfortable lives.

00:15:41.540 So why would they question it?

00:15:43.060 They have a comfortable life.

00:15:44.700 Um, they, and then on top of that, they've been fed these different narratives, which are

00:15:50.720 nationalistic, uh, uh, Chinese, Han Chinese. 0.78

00:15:54.200 So they are a very, uh, uh, racist group. 0.90

00:15:59.160 They don't like minorities. 1.00

00:16:00.460 Just ask any of the Uyghurs in China, but the, so they have their, uh, views that, that, 0.99

00:16:07.780 that have been built from childhood, from the fact that all their, um, mainstream, all

00:16:14.100 their news, all, all their media, all the content that they consume feeds this, this

00:16:20.460 narrative, it supports narrative.

00:16:21.860 And if it doesn't, it's banned.

00:16:23.500 So they don't really get to see opposing views.

00:16:26.680 And, um, they all have, you know, when I talk to those ones that you're talking about

00:16:31.240 and I asked them a simple question going, okay, which one of the five demands from the

00:16:38.160 Hong Kong as a Hong Kong protest movement, do you, are you against, what don't you agree

00:16:43.860 with, what don't you want to give them?

00:16:45.600 And none of them could answer that because they weren't being fed that they were being

00:16:50.220 fed one line on in China, which in mainland China, which was that, that Hong Kong protest

00:16:57.280 movement was about, uh, independence.

00:17:00.680 And the truth is, especially at that time, it had nothing to do with the independence was

00:17:07.220 a very fringe minority that we're asking for independence.

00:17:10.760 The five demands were nothing about independence.

00:17:13.500 In fact, I would say anecdotally from speaking to Hong Kongers on the ground, they

00:17:20.180 didn't want really independence from China.

00:17:22.440 They enjoyed having a big brother.

00:17:24.380 They, they identified as free Chinese.

00:17:28.560 They're Chinese.

00:17:29.260 They look Chinese.

00:17:30.900 They eat Chinese food, but they just had, uh, Western democracy, democratic values, but

00:17:38.320 they wanted that big brother.

00:17:39.680 Now, I think it may have changed since, uh, since then.

00:17:43.200 And, and, and you can't blame them because I think a lot of people realize that the only

00:17:47.620 way out of, you know, what's going on there now is through democracy, uh, through independence.

00:17:56.380 It's hard.

00:17:57.640 It's hard to say where it would be without the coronavirus.

00:18:00.340 You're right.

00:18:00.780 There is people, um, the Houston Rockets NBA team were getting in a lot of trouble for

00:18:06.260 just basically bowing to them, even though their general manager said free Hong Kong.

00:18:11.440 And it's still this whole firestorm that I wish we could, there's topics like that, that

00:18:15.080 I wish we could still talk about.

00:18:16.380 But right now it's just completely blown out of the water and, and playing second fiddle.

00:18:21.420 I want to transition to fightthefines.com.au, which is how you've made, um, us, what seems

00:18:29.400 to be more popular in Australia.

00:18:31.600 At least you are way more famous in Australia than I am here, for example, or David Menzies

00:18:37.800 or whomever is here.

00:18:39.180 And what I want to ask you is what was your most memorable case to date?

00:18:42.780 The one that comes to mind for me is probably the homeless guy, where there's so many, there's

00:18:47.400 so many problems when people run into, in big cities, they run into homelessness and nobody

00:18:52.060 wants to, and there's a strong contingent of people that say, don't put them in, in a

00:18:57.020 home, don't put them in prison or anything like that.

00:18:59.420 But in Australia, this homeless guy is living in his car and he's getting fined for that.

00:19:03.520 What's your most memorable fightthefines.com.au case?

00:19:08.720 There's, yeah, it's, there's, there's a bunch of them.

00:19:13.440 They're all, you know, even the one we released a couple of days ago, which was that, you know,

00:19:18.820 that woman that was exercising and, you know, that the police literally grabbing the, the 0.97

00:19:26.840 child from her arms, um, and throwing her in the back of a, a divvy van and like a police

00:19:34.000 car and slamming, like violently slamming her in there, you know, for a thousand dollar

00:19:39.520 fine because she was wearing a, a sign that was against the lockdown.

00:19:45.360 But, um, there was a, there was a family, there was a beautiful family that we did a

00:19:51.960 story on that got $10,000 in fines and were fighting their fines.

00:19:56.700 Was it, um, and that fine was because they lived on a border between, uh, city and rural

00:20:05.160 Victoria.

00:20:06.760 So at the time there was like this fake line that you were supposed, border that you were

00:20:13.200 supposed to recognize.

00:20:14.560 And if you cross from one side to the other, it was a $5,000 fine and there were two adults

00:20:19.060 and they just went to their closest health food store, which crossed that line because

00:20:23.360 they live on the border and they got $10,000 in fine.

00:20:27.960 And it was just like this beautiful young family trying to, you know, survive in a time

00:20:32.760 where, uh, one parent wasn't able to work and the, you know, where the government stripped 0.55

00:20:37.680 them of everything, including their most basic fundamental human rights.

00:20:42.720 Um, and I remember just watching him and they were kind of, you know, they were just, they

00:20:48.680 were just grateful that rebel news was around and able to do something and a step

00:20:53.320 in where no other civil liberties group here in Australia is doing anything about it.

00:21:00.380 They're hardly even talking about it.

00:21:03.120 Um, so it was exciting.

00:21:04.460 And, and I guess for me, the whole fight the fines project that we've done, I'm, I'm really

00:21:12.180 happy because I feel like it was almost the perfect time that I joined rebel news because

00:21:17.280 I got that opportunity that like you said here, it's, it became really popular and it, it,

00:21:21.660 it empowered people to fight back, you know, each fine that we took on each fine.

00:21:28.120 And we're still doing it.

00:21:29.140 Each fine that we're, we're fighting for people just teaches others that you can do it and

00:21:35.040 you don't have to worry.

00:21:36.140 And just cause a police officer issues you with a fine doesn't make it right.

00:21:40.720 Doesn't make it legal.

00:21:41.560 Doesn't mean, uh, you're in the wrong and you're a bad person.

00:21:44.900 Same as, uh, I will open that was, you know, that's what we launched here, uh, during the

00:21:51.640 lockdown and in Victoria, uh, we had the longest and harshest lockdown in the world for months.

00:21:58.820 We were locked down and we had curfews.

00:22:00.700 We weren't allowed to leave our home.

00:22:02.280 We were allowed out for one hour a day exercise.

00:22:05.460 There were roadblocks.

00:22:06.640 It was, it was intense.

00:22:08.400 And at some point we started the, I will open campaign where anyone who wish was going

00:22:15.080 to open, who said, no, I've had enough.

00:22:16.940 I was going to open, um, just let us know and we'll report the story.

00:22:21.840 And it created this wave of industries that were opening.

00:22:26.960 And we, we, I had a backlog already of businesses saying, yep, we're going to open on this date.

00:22:31.980 And suddenly the government started opening things up.

00:22:35.620 So I really truly believe that, um, more than even just protests, the way that, uh, rebel news

00:22:43.420 has been, uh, taking on these issues, at least here in Australia has really changed, uh, the

00:22:49.580 conversation and it's moved, it's moved people away from just going on the street and protesting,

00:22:55.560 which is great, but we've seen some of the scenes, you know, my first day at rebel news,

00:22:59.780 I've got tackled to the ground as a journalist went at one of those protests, we're just

00:23:04.920 reporting.

00:23:05.620 So there was that kind of heavy handedness at the police where, but when you suddenly

00:23:09.680 had, uh, small businesses rising up saying, no, I'm going to open my doors, find me, find

00:23:17.660 me, I don't care because either I'm going to crash or I'm going to, when you started to

00:23:22.240 have that and you know, it was a domino's effect as soon as one did it and we reported on

00:23:27.680 it and it kind of got, um, a bit of, uh, uh, publicity, the next one did it.

00:23:33.240 And then suddenly all these other ones were calling and doing it and the, the government

00:23:38.000 lost control.

00:23:38.900 They weren't, what are they going to do?

00:23:40.740 They weren't able to come in and, uh, do what, uh, they did, what I've seen them doing

00:23:47.460 in Canada to the barbecue guy because it got out of control.

00:23:52.200 And I can understand why the, in Canada, um, your, the, the government, possibly we're

00:23:59.500 looking at what was happening in Canada and they go, we better stop this now at the first

00:24:03.940 guy and make it not worth anyone's while to do it because, um, you see what happens here.

00:24:09.720 As soon as you lose control, as soon as people realize that what's the worst that can happen,

00:24:13.960 I'm going to lose my business anyways, I might as well go out fighting.

00:24:17.980 Um, that's what kind of happens in the government can't control anything and same with the fines

00:24:24.080 when people realize that a fine is just a piece of paper and you can fight it and there's,

00:24:30.720 you know, just keep, keep at it, just do what you believe is right.

00:24:35.780 And then, uh, fight the unjust fines later.

00:24:41.300 And that's what we did here.

00:24:42.740 So it's, it's been great.

00:24:43.900 Avi, when people talk about lockdowns around the world and people I know do it and people

00:24:49.220 online, of course, do it, they point to Victoria as, Hey, this was a harsh lockdown and now the 1.00

00:24:56.020 numbers are gone.

00:24:57.220 Did the lockdown work?

00:24:58.960 And if so, at what cost?

00:25:01.580 Let me put it to you this way.

00:25:02.480 If you, um, if you lock everyone into their homes for 24 hours, seven days a week, guess

00:25:11.140 what nobody's going to get hit by a car.

00:25:15.120 It works.

00:25:16.280 So why don't we do that?

00:25:18.480 So the question is not whether locking people down stops a virus from spreading.

00:25:24.420 Obviously, if people are locked down, a virus can't spread.

00:25:27.640 Now, I love when they compare Australia to Canada, to North America, you know, Oh, do you

00:25:34.020 want to be like America?

00:25:34.940 You want to be like Trump?

00:25:35.980 It's very different.

00:25:37.040 We're an Island and if you control the borders as they did here, um, yes, you can bring the 0.94

00:25:44.300 numbers down to the figures that we've got, but I'd argue, is it still worth it after everything

00:25:50.500 that we now know?

00:25:51.560 Is it still worth it?

00:25:53.780 And at what cost is what you say, you know, how many businesses shut down in this period,

00:25:59.020 how many families?

00:26:00.120 And we haven't even started to feel the pain because even until now, the government is

00:26:05.140 propping up businesses and families.

00:26:07.740 When that money runs out, when that all dries up, mate, I don't think people realize what

00:26:14.480 we're about to face here in Australia.

00:26:16.920 It is going to be painful.

00:26:18.820 And for what?

00:26:19.680 For a virus that, yeah, it's not good, but it's certainly not what we originally thought

00:26:27.220 it was, you know, most of my family got coronavirus overseas.

00:26:32.220 Most of my family.

00:26:33.580 Now, in the first, in the beginning when they told us, uh, you know, uh, I had two family

00:26:39.740 members that had died and they told us at the time from coronavirus or we, you know,

00:26:44.580 later we don't know if it's from with, but they were older, but the rest of my family,

00:26:49.280 my age all got coronavirus.

00:26:51.880 Two of them felt sick.

00:26:53.240 There was a wedding in my family where my whole family got coronavirus, everyone at the

00:26:56.840 wedding in Miami and only two felt sick, let alone anything more than that.

00:27:02.700 So if you think that it's worth shutting down the entire economy for that, well, I think,

00:27:12.320 uh, talk to me in a couple of years when Australia starts to really feel the pain of what we went

00:27:17.880 through in the state of Victoria, when it starts to feel the pain, all the job losses, all the

00:27:22.260 business closures, everything that, that came at that cost and talk to me.

00:27:28.040 But even if you think it's worth it, it's, you can't compare it to North America because, uh,

00:27:35.580 you know, you don't have the ability to control the borders like we do here.

00:27:40.500 And it's interesting.

00:27:41.280 It's all the people that are advocating, um, this kind of, uh, authoritarian response

00:27:48.360 to coronavirus, you know, as Australians, I can't come and visit you.

00:27:52.580 Australia is the only place in the world at the moment that your passport doesn't mean

00:27:55.920 very much.

00:27:56.620 You can't get back into Australia.

00:27:58.160 There are Australians stranded all around the world with your passport. 0.98

00:28:01.760 You cannot get back into Australia.

00:28:04.200 In fact, you can't even go between state to state.

00:28:07.560 So as a Victorian, I can't just go to New South Wales, which is, you know, a thousand

00:28:11.540 kilometers down the road drive.

00:28:13.560 I can't drive.

00:28:14.680 I can't drive and return.

00:28:16.680 So if you think it's worth living like that and you consider that, um, uh, lockdown working,

00:28:25.960 like I said, in the beginning, if you lock everyone in their home for 24 hours a day, seven

00:28:30.440 days a week, why don't we do it like China? 0.99

00:28:32.860 Why don't we start boarding people, you know, locking people up with wooden, uh, slap, you

00:28:38.040 know, nail them into their own homes and we'll never have disease. 0.89

00:28:41.140 We'll never have anything.

00:28:42.300 We'll be fine.

00:28:43.880 I think you would find people who would be for that here in the Western world.

00:28:48.040 I think people, I think it's gotten so far where the hysteria has gone so wild.

00:28:53.340 I think people would actually support, I mean, they're instituting jail penalties now

00:28:57.940 here, uh, upwards of one year in prison now is what they're suggesting.

00:29:03.320 Okay, Avi, we are in the restricted area.

00:29:06.320 You are free to, you want to do a shirtless, you want to swear and smoke.

00:29:10.500 I think we can do it now.

00:29:12.240 Um, Jim Jeffries is something that comes up a lot.

00:29:15.620 Um, especially when I put on Twitter, what's your question for, first of all, I want to

00:29:19.480 say, um, when I put up your questions for Avi on Twitter, you've got a low bar of trolls.

00:29:26.440 And these are people that are creating, uh, it's pretty obvious when they copy and paste

00:29:32.180 the same messages, but people are creating multiple accounts just to say, ask Avi why 1.00

00:29:36.980 he's an asshole. 1.00

00:29:38.540 The bar for your trolls is so low. 1.00

00:29:41.160 I was born this way.

00:29:43.420 But they want to know what happened with Jim Jeffries and what's happened since.

00:29:47.480 So for the people who don't know, we'll show a bit of the Jim Jeffries video that I watched

00:29:52.220 when I was, uh, just a viewer of yours and I liked Jim Jeffries before that.

00:29:57.200 He kind of turned into a rambling drunk, in my opinion, yelling at people on Bill Maher

00:30:01.380 and such.

00:30:01.940 Tell us exactly what happened there, what the story was and what's happened since.

00:30:05.620 So with Jim Jeffries, listen, I knew the moment I got a call from his producer saying, um, he,

00:30:14.640 he wanted to invite me onto his show, uh, to talk about, I think immigration, right wing

00:30:21.200 politics.

00:30:21.660 And I knew immediately because I remember what he did to, um, Jordan Peterson and I knew

00:30:27.540 immediately what it meant.

00:30:29.020 And I gave him two conditions.

00:30:30.740 I said, uh, don't put me on there with actual neo-Nazis.

00:30:34.540 I don't want to be, you know, I don't want you to put me alongside him to make it as if

00:30:39.200 I support their views or they are me and we, and I am them.

00:30:42.880 They agree.

00:30:44.280 And the second one, which was also a very reasonable request was that they don't, um,

00:30:52.160 they don't cut my answers from one question to another question.

00:30:56.560 Just, you know, if you want to, I don't care if you don't include the whole interview,

00:31:00.280 we sat there for, I don't know, an hour or whatever, but just put the answers to the

00:31:05.540 questions you asked.

00:31:07.120 Isn't it sad that you have to ask that they put the stuff in context?

00:31:11.060 And the reason why I did that is because like I said, I'd gone and looked and I'd seen Jordan,

00:31:15.520 what they did to Jordan Peterson and I could see the technique and it was obvious that they

00:31:21.180 were doing that.

00:31:23.320 But, um, and they agreed.

00:31:24.860 They said, of course, of course we would never do.

00:31:28.240 I remember him saying to me, oh no, that's, we don't do.

00:31:31.580 And they have that.

00:31:33.200 The second red flag was the moment they, they have a word for it.

00:31:37.700 I can't remember it now, but a word for the technique of cutting up the answers.

00:31:43.080 And I thought that's so funny because only somebody who, who actually operates in that

00:31:49.340 space where they do that kind of stuff, um, would, would have a, a, a term for it.

00:31:56.060 Anyways, um, I, they flew me to Singapore for this, uh, you know, accommodation, hotel, uh,

00:32:03.440 flights, accommodation.

00:32:05.060 And, you know, it was like a, I thought, great three day holiday. 0.99

00:32:09.700 And they must've thought I was a moron. 0.99

00:32:12.480 What is it? 1.00

00:32:13.320 Why Singapore?

00:32:14.120 He's from Australia, right?

00:32:16.400 Yeah, but he's based in the U S he's based in the U S.

00:32:20.380 Um, he lives in the U S now.

00:32:22.440 I think he was doing a show in Singapore at the time.

00:32:24.660 And it was what aligned.

00:32:25.740 Cause at the time they wanted me at the, when they called me, they were in Australia, but

00:32:29.860 I was in Israel at the time.

00:32:31.940 So I said to him, I can't do it now.

00:32:33.480 It'll have to be.

00:32:34.560 So it just worked out Singapore.

00:32:36.840 They were flying me in. 1.00

00:32:38.080 I was going to have a few day holiday and I just thought I was, you know, an idiot. 0.90

00:32:43.860 And I just took two mobile phones at the time and I walk in there and it's at some 0.97

00:32:51.120 bar and I just look, these people are so self-absorbed that they didn't realize that

00:32:57.100 I'm, I'm walking in there.

00:32:58.640 There's, I don't know, 20 people in there at least doing this production and I'm sitting

00:33:03.640 there and there was like a couch in front of the chairs that we were sitting for the

00:33:09.160 interview and I'm propping up the phones and like sitting them up properly to film my

00:33:17.200 own version of what happened because, and I went in there prepared in my head.

00:33:21.120 And I go, I started the film from the moment I walked in and I said, because if they catch

00:33:27.420 me doing it and they tell me I can't do it, I'll say, why?

00:33:31.060 We had an agreement and I just want to make sure I'm covered.

00:33:34.880 And if they kick me out, great, there we go.

00:33:36.880 I'm going to show the world what they tried to do and how I, how I fought back.

00:33:43.720 But they didn't even notice.

00:33:44.800 They didn't realize.

00:33:45.300 You know, and, and the thing, the thing is they waited months that nothing came out.

00:33:52.940 It was actually the Jewish holiday of Purim where I was at an event, um, sitting at a table

00:34:00.640 with my rabbi and some Jewish, some, you know, community member walks in and Purim for those

00:34:06.200 if you don't know is one where you have a few drinks and it's a, it's a fun Jewish holiday.

00:34:11.660 It's one of the fun ones where you, where you get to drink a lot.

00:34:15.140 Okay.

00:34:15.260 As an Aussie, that is what defines fun.

00:34:17.480 Okay.

00:34:17.980 It's, you've got to drink that much.

00:34:19.300 You don't know the difference between good and evil.

00:34:21.660 It's a lot.

00:34:22.760 Okay.

00:34:23.420 Yeah.

00:34:24.680 Um, so what was he trying to get you to say?

00:34:27.900 What were they trying to position to, to quote, to humiliate you with?

00:34:33.520 Well, or expose.

00:34:36.820 Yeah, they were just trying to make it out that, you know, the right, uh, some, and that

00:34:43.040 I specifically as somebody who's a prominent right wing online figure is just a neo-Nazi

00:34:51.160 loving Trump supporting hate field, whatever.

00:34:57.280 And it was just funny that, you know, I left there and months later on that Purim when some

00:35:04.080 rabbi comes in and, uh, some communion where he goes, Oh, did you see your Jim Jefferies? 0.86

00:35:07.680 Oh my God, he made you look bad.

00:35:10.280 And I'm sitting there going, and I just, I turned to the guy, I go, wait 24 hours, just

00:35:15.560 wait 24 hours.

00:35:16.860 Cause I knew I had the, the, the things there and I went back and I watched it and it was,

00:35:22.240 it was probably, it was probably, I guess worse than I thought because I kind of started

00:35:31.360 to believe him that they weren't going to, I guess they convinced me and I, you know,

00:35:36.580 I had my insurance policy, but it was worse because it was, it was right after Christchurch,

00:35:41.780 the Christchurch massacre here in New Zealand.

00:35:44.480 And they waited for that to, to off the back of that, to run this segment that they filmed 0.99

00:35:52.000 months ago to connect me to it, to connect me to the, to, to the terrorist, to the scumbag 1.00

00:35:59.340 who did that awful crime. 0.99

00:36:01.900 And I just sat there going, Oh, you know, it was, and as soon as I put it out, you know,

00:36:08.680 the rest is history that it was, you know, even till today I see he's blocked me on and

00:36:16.320 Comedy Central blocked me from a lot of their things.

00:36:19.700 But, um, even till today, I still see every time Jim Jefferies does it, has anything, I

00:36:26.420 always see in the comments there.

00:36:28.940 Um, and cause I'm always tagged in a lot of them where people are still having goes at

00:36:34.860 him about that.

00:36:36.420 And that's what is it?

00:36:37.160 It's a couple of years ago now already.

00:36:39.040 Well, there's something that malicious.

00:36:40.660 And then like, like I mentioned earlier, the last thing I remember seeing of Jim Jefferies

00:36:44.820 is him on Bill Maher, just clearly drunk, just yelling at any, he's just flipping off people

00:36:50.760 who disagree with him.

00:36:51.740 And like, I get that you're a comedian, but you're on a political show, at least have some

00:36:55.540 semblance of an opinion to share.

00:36:57.320 And it's just F you if you don't believe, uh, agree with me now.

00:37:01.600 So there's been no contact with him or his team since then.

00:37:06.060 So we did file a lawsuit at some point.

00:37:09.240 It was because the, the, the clock, there was a, I can't remember how long we had, we,

00:37:13.900 according to, uh, us law.

00:37:17.020 So we filed something in, I think it was LA.

00:37:21.540 But, um, the problem was the moment we did that Viacom, which is the company that it owns

00:37:27.820 it on, came down with, uh, a whole team of lawyers and scared the hell out of, uh, my

00:37:36.760 little lawyer that was going to represent me at the time.

00:37:39.340 And he was scared for his own license.

00:37:41.540 So we just ended up dropping it because there was just no, no real, no viable way to take

00:37:46.660 him on.

00:37:46.960 Not because I was wrong.

00:37:49.280 Uh, you know, it was quite obvious anybody watched his segment, watched then the full

00:37:55.280 video or, or me pointing out that video where I point out how they, you know, maliciously

00:38:01.780 edited, I think it was obvious what they did.

00:38:05.460 They know what they did.

00:38:06.140 The video is still up, but it is what it is.

00:38:08.720 And I, and you know, I don't regret it.

00:38:10.640 People said, oh, people afterwards said, oh, well, didn't you know that was going to

00:38:16.060 happen?

00:38:16.340 Why would you even do the interview?

00:38:17.440 Actually, if I could go back in time, I would do it all again because that was such an important,

00:38:23.880 um, moment where people realize that this is not just a conspiracy that the right wing

00:38:29.940 make up, it actually freaking happens.

00:38:32.960 And it happens so brazenly and so disgracefully.

00:38:38.460 The only thing I regret really is not recording more of the interactions beforehand.

00:38:46.380 Me with the, uh, producers and all that, you know, if it was me today, that was me a couple

00:38:52.080 of years ago.

00:38:52.660 And, you know, I was working for TR news.

00:38:55.000 I didn't have the full, uh, support that we have at rebel and the full team behind me

00:39:00.400 and people that can help.

00:39:01.280 You know, I didn't have all that.

00:39:02.920 It was literally me and whatever I did and whatever I thought of Tommy Robinson at the

00:39:08.820 time was the one who told me to go and film it.

00:39:12.160 It was his idea when I told him, although I already had it because I thought it's, um,

00:39:18.120 uh, cause he had inspired me.

00:39:20.680 I'd seen, uh, cause I was working with Tommy and he'd just done a bunch of those kinds

00:39:26.380 of scenarios.

00:39:26.980 So as soon as I said, I thought it's, it's a great opportunity, but Tommy was the first

00:39:31.660 he goes, make sure to record it.

00:39:32.800 But no one at the time and my own experience didn't teach me to record every conversation

00:39:38.380 that I had with a producer because that would be lovely.

00:39:41.700 You know, I would love to be able to show the world, that conversation with the producer

00:39:48.020 where I made those two, those two conditions and where he just straight up lied.

00:39:55.860 But so where we are today with it, um, I did follow him.

00:40:00.860 So I went into LA to confront him.

00:40:04.140 Um, you know, I'm not someone that gives up easily.

00:40:07.380 That was the one outside of his performance.

00:40:09.320 Right.

00:40:09.620 And they, oh yeah, they faked the entrance or the exit.

00:40:12.960 They were coming out of.

00:40:14.800 Oh, that was, that was, yeah.

00:40:16.600 So first we went to, we went to, yeah, we went to America to, to confront him and, uh,

00:40:21.320 he called the FBI.

00:40:22.600 Oh.

00:40:22.900 Father report.

00:40:23.980 Um, and so I was arrested and deported in, in LA.

00:40:28.800 Um, and, and then, so then I figured, all right, I need to find him at a show where

00:40:35.040 I can't get deported.

00:40:35.900 And I'm also an Israeli citizen.

00:40:37.240 So I went to Israel and yeah, they did a whole, uh, they did a whole, uh, decoy when 0.73

00:40:47.360 he came, like it was so funny and you know what, it's kind of a game.

00:40:52.620 And then at some point in my life, we will talk again and, uh, everyone knows me.

00:41:01.180 I am not in no way violent and never threatening violence.

00:41:05.940 I just want to see him face to face and for him to acknowledge not that he was wrong, that

00:41:16.040 I won.

00:41:16.880 That's all I want.

00:41:17.940 I want him to acknowledge.

00:41:18.880 I want that little, that little cheap shot he took because now it's already the world

00:41:24.160 is, and it's, you know, people, I think a lot of people learn to listen.

00:41:27.500 I think a lot of people, I've gotten a lot of messages, messages over the years of people

00:41:31.980 that are inspired by what I did that day as in when they go to interviews.

00:41:37.600 Now they record it for themselves.

00:41:39.540 I often see people, um, in the conservative movement who are saying, oh, I've been invited

00:41:45.200 to an interview.

00:41:46.160 I don't know if I should do it.

00:41:47.160 And always the comments at the bottom say, do another, your mini, do another, your mini.

00:41:51.840 So I'm, I'm really happy that it's, uh, that I've kind of passed that on, which again, I

00:41:59.340 got, like I said before, I got it, I got it from Tommy Robinson from the fact that, uh,

00:42:04.560 you know, people, when, when Trump says the fake news, you know, put words into your mouth

00:42:10.480 or cut things up maliciously, you know, if you're a Trump supporter or if you, whoever

00:42:16.120 it is, if you're a Tommy Robinson supporter, then you'll just believe him.

00:42:20.460 Um, but if you don't like Trump, then it's easy to dismiss what he's saying or whoever

00:42:25.260 it is.

00:42:25.660 It's easy to say, ah, he's just saying that because that made him look bad.

00:42:29.040 Um, but you can't, with my Jim Jeffries one, and I saw it also people from across the

00:42:35.660 aisle, I've seen people who are leftists who don't like me, who said Jim Jeffries is

00:42:43.820 an a-hole for, for, for what happened that day.

00:42:47.540 Um, which is important because I think this is not a right or left-wing thing.

00:42:51.160 I think, um, I think everyone should have the right to freedom of speech, but I also think

00:42:56.360 that, um, any big, uh, uh, media company who, who engages in that kind of practice, uh,

00:43:04.840 to one, just make their narrative to suit their narrative or two, to try demonize somebody

00:43:12.920 with an opposing view, which is exactly what they tried to do with me.

00:43:16.620 And it wasn't, I don't think it was targeted only at me.

00:43:19.440 It was to demonize all right-wing people.

00:43:22.420 Well, look, here's Avi Yamini, who's pretty, who's not, you know, they, who, they'll call

00:43:28.740 it fringe, but he's not the, uh, you know, skinhead neo-Nazis.

00:43:33.660 They're everywhere.

00:43:35.340 The, uh, they're, they're in sheep's clothing everywhere. 1.00

00:43:38.160 And the first, um, ones that just come off the top of my head, if people want to look

00:43:42.060 them up, there's Tommy Robinson with Al Jazeera, there's Tommy Robinson with BBC, and there's

00:43:46.700 Alex Jones with Megyn Kelly.

00:43:48.100 So the examples are out there and you should record your own side of the interview every

00:43:53.400 time.

00:43:54.400 Always, always everything.

00:43:56.780 Any, uh, you know, the lesson is record everything better to have it than not to have it record

00:44:02.600 everything, every engagement.

00:44:03.780 When you're, when you're talking to people that, um, you disagree with, and I, I encourage

00:44:09.560 talking to people that you disagree with.

00:44:11.480 I encourage doing mainstream media interviews.

00:44:14.260 I don't think we should, I don't think you need to watch them.

00:44:17.400 I'm not telling, you know, I, I watch them because I want to hear what the lies is being

00:44:21.980 and I want to be able to confront them.

00:44:23.780 But I think, um, if I get invited to an interview, I'll do it.

00:44:28.580 But then I will, uh, ensure that I have that insurance policy that if they take me out of

00:44:36.720 context or, um, in any way manipulate what I'm saying, I'm going to be able to show the

00:44:43.120 world and not like that, that episode of Jim Jefferies as big and powerful as Comedy Central

00:44:50.300 is my version got a lot more hits.

00:44:53.680 So that was from Jimmy walks too.

00:44:57.760 That was a long answer to that one question.

00:44:59.740 Um, we got a probably, pardon.

00:45:03.420 I was thanking Jimmy for the question.

00:45:04.960 Okay, um, five minutes.

00:45:07.180 Let's try to speed through these.

00:45:08.600 Joanne Doe says, how much, uh, do you expect vaccine passports in Australia?

00:45:15.620 I reckon, um, so it's interesting because they're going to, they, you know, they make a point

00:45:21.280 here to say that they can't mandate vaccines.

00:45:24.140 They can't make, they can't enforce, enforce vaccines onto a population because of, um, our

00:45:32.440 legislation, but in reality, uh, they can, we have here, no jab, no play, no jab, uh, no

00:45:41.720 pay, which is to parents who don't vaccinate their children with kids.

00:45:45.640 Essentially you have to homeschool them and you don't get access to, uh, welfare and things

00:45:51.440 like that.

00:45:52.940 Um, you know what?

00:45:54.780 I think, uh, coronavirus has actually, uh, made, has created anti-vaxxers really, you

00:46:01.940 know, typically when we thought of anti-vaxxers, we thought of crazy fringe, uh, dwellers that

00:46:08.480 were like weird.

00:46:10.600 You know, I've always been vaccinated.

00:46:11.820 I've always vaccinated my kids.

00:46:13.060 It's, you know, not something I've ever thought twice about, but no, I do not want to vaccinate 1.00

00:46:17.120 my kids with this COVID vaccine because I just, I'm suspicious.

00:46:21.300 I don't know.

00:46:21.800 It hasn't been tried to test.

00:46:22.680 I don't, it's not necessarily that I think that they're inserting a chip to control our

00:46:27.900 minds.

00:46:28.300 Just, I just don't know how safe this is.

00:46:30.880 And I just don't think putting it into my child's body who, even if they get coronavirus

00:46:36.040 poses little to no risk for them.

00:46:39.560 Why would I inject them with that?

00:46:41.640 Um, having said that, yes, I do believe that they're going to make a mandatory to have a

00:46:47.340 vaccine to be able to fly.

00:46:50.840 And G General, I have to, we have to stop the questions at some point.

00:46:57.160 I talk too much.

00:46:58.800 At G Generals 5 says, do you have a de-platforming plan in case you were, he said, inevitably de-platformed?

00:47:05.880 Um, I've been de-platformed so many times.

00:47:10.080 I've lost five pages on Facebook, uh, collectively over a million followers.

00:47:15.300 And for Australia, if you think about Australia, of a population of under 30 million, um, it

00:47:20.080 was probably the biggest, uh, conservative, um, personality on, on that platform.

00:47:26.780 And, and I survived it.

00:47:28.960 And what I say to people is, you know, Parler's just gone down, uh, Parler, I was loving it.

00:47:34.000 I had, I think I was getting close to 500,000 subscribers, followers on Parler.

00:47:39.580 You got to roll with the punches at the end of the day.

00:47:42.040 I'm actually, I'm more hopeful now than I have ever been because until now it has always

00:47:47.320 been the, you know, the fringes that have been, um, de-platformed.

00:47:51.720 And then the rest of the conservative movement have kind of just ignored it because they're

00:47:57.440 like, well, they're not me and I'm not a Tommy Robinson.

00:48:00.600 I'm not a Milo.

00:48:01.420 I'm not a, uh, Laura Looma.

00:48:03.080 I'm not an Alex Jones.

00:48:04.380 Well, those days are over.

00:48:05.880 And now all conservatives feel like, and the truth is they are at risk of censorship of losing

00:48:14.280 their platform or not even platforms.

00:48:16.600 You know, a lot of, now every conservative can almost say that without a doubt that one

00:48:23.680 of their posts have been removed from social media.

00:48:25.540 So they feel the pressure of censorship.

00:48:28.880 So I think now, maybe in the short term, it's going to be a bit of pain, but in the long term,

00:48:34.500 remember, uh, you know, what is it?

00:48:36.440 75 million people voted for Trump.

00:48:38.360 That's just in America.

00:48:40.580 All of Trump supporters around the world, we're talking about million, hundreds of millions.

00:48:45.580 They need a place.

00:48:47.500 They're not going anywhere.

00:48:49.120 They need a place to be able to, um, talk freely on the internet and the internet's more

00:48:55.240 and more is shutting them down.

00:48:57.180 That place will come.

00:48:58.940 It just, you know, you got to give it time.

00:49:01.760 And I, I believe that my plan today is finally, I feel like the problem is not just mine.

00:49:09.740 It's ours and collectively we've got people as powerful as Trump and who will fight to have

00:49:17.720 the means, the ability to fight, whether it's within government and also just financially.

00:49:23.440 There are, there are real conservative bodies that will, uh, ensure that there will be platforms

00:49:29.580 for conservatives.

00:49:30.520 And we just need to make sure to support them and be there when they're ready.

00:49:34.660 And that's where I'll be and hope to see you all there.

00:49:38.560 Tried to keep it short.

00:49:40.600 Try hurt.

00:49:41.800 Let's get, um, Presley seven, seven, seven, seven, seven says Australian or Canadian PM.

00:49:48.220 Who is worse?

00:49:50.300 Who?

00:49:51.060 The Australian or the Canadian prime minister?

00:49:54.180 Oh, who's worse than the Canadian. 1.00

00:49:56.580 You guys win.

00:49:57.160 Um, as much as I, it's probably not a fair comparison.

00:50:02.840 Trudeau's far worse.

00:50:04.780 Um, I think, I think, uh, ScoMo's he's, he's, he's a bit weak, a bit gutless, but he's still

00:50:13.000 got some conservative values.

00:50:15.800 Trudeau.

00:50:16.660 I don't know.

00:50:17.520 I reckon, I reckon a fairer comparison would be Trudeau and Xi Jinping.

00:50:21.940 This is where we play the Simpsons clip of the Australian prime minister sitting in his

00:50:26.760 pool, eating a hot dog.

00:50:28.640 Everything I know about Australia is from the Simpsons.

00:50:31.840 Sorry to tell you.

00:50:33.560 So what?

00:50:34.320 All these guys know more than most.

00:50:37.320 Last question is from Instagram.

00:50:39.440 What hair products does Avi use?

00:50:41.980 That didn't go anywhere.

00:50:43.380 Hold on.

00:50:43.840 I'll show you.

00:50:45.640 There was one question on Twitter that said he didn't want to pin us against each other

00:50:50.560 by saying who's got better hair.

00:50:51.940 So I made sure to style my hair.

00:50:55.460 Oh, you should get sponsored now.

00:50:57.200 Rockstar hair.

00:50:57.920 That's so like, like rockstar.

00:51:01.040 They couldn't come up with a better name than that.

00:51:02.820 Come on.

00:51:03.140 I'll be honest with you.

00:51:04.460 Um, the, I, as my hair has grown through the lockdown and I refuse to cut it, um, I've

00:51:12.160 had to change.

00:51:13.620 So it's been this brand, but different, different style stuff every time because it, as, as your

00:51:20.460 hair grows, your hair reacts differently to it.

00:51:23.380 I can't believe I'm talking about hair products.

00:51:25.720 We're going to listen to a hair product segment, Avi, all right?

00:51:28.280 We'll clip this for like Instagram or something and we'll give you your hair plug and hopefully

00:51:33.920 that, this brand will respond to you.

00:51:36.880 That's all the time we have.

00:51:38.720 That's all the time we've had, Avi.

00:51:41.820 You've taken up six, I think six hours now we've been talking.

00:51:46.300 Uh, thank you for, uh, in all seriousness, thank you for being the first guest on my paywall

00:51:50.420 show.

00:51:50.940 I've been watching you, uh, for years now before I worked here, before you worked here,

00:51:56.180 before you worked for Tommy Robinson.

00:51:57.740 I was always a fan of yours.

00:51:59.060 I'm happy to know you and thank you.

00:52:01.240 And I'll let you have the last word.

00:52:04.060 Thank you, brother.

00:52:05.020 Good luck.

00:52:05.560 I'm sure this, uh, paywall show will smash it.

00:52:09.360 Guys, make sure to spread it out.

00:52:11.340 All right.

00:52:11.840 Thanks a lot, Avi.

00:52:12.540 Have a good night.

00:52:15.420 Thank you for watching.

00:52:16.320 Andrew says if you want to see the full uncut version, go to rebelnewsplus.com and sign up

00:52:21.280 today so you can see the entire episode where we talk about topics we can't show you on YouTube.

00:52:26.900 We'll ban us. 0.92

Rebel News Podcast - January 15, 2021

“Lockdowns Work if You Don't Want Your Freedoms”： Avi Yemini Exclusive Interview

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