Rebel News Podcast - Wouldn’t it be strange if Mexico and Germany saved us from American censorship？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I have an interesting story for you today, a surprising story of countries

00:00:05.340 and politicians around the world who've decided to stand up for freedom, especially freedom

00:00:10.300 of the press. I never would have thought of including socialist politicians. I'll give

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00:00:58.480 Tonight, wouldn't it be strange if Mexico and Germany saved us from the United States? 0.63

00:01:06.160 It's January 15th and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:10.940 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:14.660 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:18.380 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my

00:01:23.340 bloody right to do so. I love Canada and it's my home. My great-grandparents came here in 1903

00:01:33.440 before Alberta was even officially a province. But being a Canadian doesn't mean we can't admit

00:01:38.560 that the United States is the greatest force for freedom in the world. In fact, part of the reason

00:01:43.920 it's so great to be Canadian is that we have the U.S. right next to us geographically, physically,

00:01:50.160 commercially, culturally, linguistically, militarily. Imagine if we were located somewhere far away

00:01:56.100 surrounded by bad guys like the little democracy of Taiwan is or Israel or even Australia. Too close

00:02:05.540 to China for comfort, probably. So we're lucky here, but there has been a sudden and dark shift in

00:02:12.940 America's greatest industry that we use every day all the time. I'm talking about the American high-tech

00:02:19.800 industry, especially communications, social media, things like that. I mean, just 10 years ago,

00:02:25.520 the Internet was the freest place in the world, probably the freest place in the world's history,

00:02:30.900 the Internet. But now it's the least free place by many measures. It's certainly the most spied upon

00:02:38.120 place, a place of no privacy. And now it's a place of the most regulation and censorship.

00:02:44.400 And in a terrifying way, it's not government regulation and censorship most of the time.

00:02:51.620 It's corporate censorship by oligarchs. So you don't even get to know about the censorship. It's

00:02:58.640 not debated in a legislature. It's not examined in committee hearings. It's not a law that's voted on.

00:03:06.580 It's not prosecuted against you in a court where you can make your case. You can't appeal it.

00:03:11.760 But it's just done secretly. And you find out about it afterwards. And there's no appeal.

00:03:17.420 You might be the most powerful politician in America, but the technology giants

00:03:21.020 are more powerful and they'll love to let you know it.

00:03:25.020 And in case you're wondering, it's just getting started. Here's the boss of Twitter,

00:03:29.520 a kooky leftist billionaire named Jack Dorsey. And he was recorded on a company conference call a few

00:03:36.460 days ago. Take a look at this. We do intend to do a full retro, as I said in my note. It is going to take some time.

00:03:43.960 And then the other thing, just to close out a little bit, we are focused on one account right now, but this is going to be much bigger than just one account.

00:03:56.580 And it's going to go on for much longer than just this day, this week, the next few weeks.

00:04:01.340 It's going to go on beyond the inauguration. We have to expect that. We have to be ready for that.

00:04:06.080 So the focus is certainly on this account and how it ties to real world violence, but also we need to

00:04:15.340 think much longer term around how these dynamics play out over time. I don't believe this is going

00:04:22.460 away anytime soon. Oh, so he's just getting started. He's against hateful speech, you see,

00:04:29.060 or dangerous speech or violent speech, whatever. He lets the Ayatollahs of Iran stay on. Same with 0.93

00:04:34.900 Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela and Vladimir Putin, too. Same with the president of Turkey. Oh, and he

00:04:40.540 personally donated millions of dollars to Black Lives Matter rioters. He even went to the riots

00:04:47.400 himself just to be part of the action. So yeah, that's Twitter. Trump was just the appetizer. You're the main course.

00:04:54.200 Now, it's great if you're a Democrat, because Twitter, like all tech companies, is based in Silicon Valley, which is a

00:05:00.980 nickname for a suburb of San Francisco. That's the most left-wing city in America. And so they're all

00:05:06.000 pro-Democrat there, the tech companies. Remember, this video leaked to Breitbart of the Google staff

00:05:11.400 meeting a few days after the Trump victory in 2016. Listen to how they talk about Clinton and the Democrats

00:05:18.040 back then, and it's even worse now. There is no dividing line in their mind. They say we between the tech

00:05:26.980 companies and the Democrats. It's the same group. Take a look. I want to take you back to 8.30 p.m. on

00:05:35.080 Tuesday night. I was at home with friends and family watching the election returns. And as we started to

00:05:42.760 see the direction of the voting, I reached out to someone close to me who was at the Javits Center

00:05:48.700 where the big celebration was supposed to occur in New York City. Somebody had been working on the

00:05:54.600 campaign. And I just sent him a note and said, you know, are you okay? It looks like it's going the wrong

00:06:01.540 way. And I got back a very sad short text that read, people are leaving. Staff is crying. We're going to lose.

00:06:13.540 Here's another one. Okay, folks. I know this is probably not the most joyous TGIF we have had.

00:06:21.780 And, you know, let's face it, most people here are pretty upset and pretty sad because of the election.

00:06:36.500 Yeah, so their plans worked. They won. They stopped Trump. But they're not done yet. You heard Jack

00:06:41.860 Dorsey. They're going in for the kill, all of them. It's weird. It's not a coincidence that all in a 0.91

00:06:49.060 single day, 12 different tech companies simultaneously banned Donald Trump. Don't tell

00:06:53.780 me that's a coincidence. That is a cartel at work. The Democrats love it because they're the

00:06:58.940 beneficiaries of it. The Republicans hate it, but they didn't hate it enough to have done anything

00:07:03.640 about it in the past four years when they could have, I guess. But what if you're not a Democrat?

00:07:09.520 Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, is literally from San Francisco.

00:07:13.940 These are her personal friends. She knows them. They're probably in her speed dial. But

00:07:18.220 what if you're from Kampala? Yeah, I had to look that up, too. It's the capital of Uganda.

00:07:26.040 Facebook and Twitter started banning politicians there, too, just like they had done in America.

00:07:30.700 So the Ugandan government just banned Twitter and Facebook from Uganda. And boy, was Twitter angry.

00:07:39.360 Censorship, that's our gig. How dare you Ugandans try and steal our moves? But seriously, 1.00

00:07:46.120 I don't think anyone in Uganda is friends with Jack Dorsey or Mark Zuckerberg or any of the bosses

00:07:51.820 of Twitter, Facebook, Google, YouTube, Amazon, or the rest of them. I just don't think Uganda 1.00

00:07:56.200 is that close to Silicon Valley. And of course, there's 200 or so other countries in the world.

00:08:02.420 And that's what's so surprising to me, an unexpected consequence. You'd think Trump's enemies around

00:08:07.620 the world would be rejoicing his silencing. But they're not. I mean, other than China. 0.98

00:08:13.460 Not Trump's rival, Angela Merkel of Germany. Not the socialist Mexican president, Andres Manuel López

00:08:20.580 Obrador. In fact, they're deeply concerned about it. They oppose it because they know that Trump is

00:08:27.280 gone. He's almost gone. It's not about Trump anymore. It's about freedom, their sovereignty,

00:08:32.680 political interference. It was about Trump today. But like I say, they're just getting going. Will

00:08:38.500 it be them tomorrow? Well, of course it'll be them tomorrow. And they're not bosom buddies with

00:08:42.740 Zuckerberg or Dorsey or Bezos or Bill Gates or whoever. So it's out of control and all around the

00:08:48.580 world. Here's a Russian dissident, Alexei Navalny. He says it's the kind of thing Putin would have done

00:08:56.480 to his opponents. Just silence them. That's quite something if they're comparing you to Putin. Here's

00:09:02.880 Obrador, López Obrador, saying it's a new inquisition. Listen to this guy.

00:09:07.960 Y que también hay infodemia, y que también se controla y se censura a los comunicadores alternativos.

00:09:16.380 Esto que tú bien señalas como un apagón, ¿sí? Esto que hicieron hace unos días en Estados Unidos,

00:09:24.780 es una mala señal. Es un mal presagio de que deciden, empresas particulares, silenciar, censurar.

00:09:47.400 Eso va en contra de la libertad. Entonces, no se vaya a estar creando un gobierno mundial

00:10:04.520 con el poder de el control de las redes sociales, un poder mediático mundial.

00:10:21.200 Además, un tribunal de censura, como la Santa Inquisición, pero para el manejo de la opinión

00:10:40.140 pública. Es gravísimo.

00:10:42.520 More countries than you think. Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro, I haven't heard from him on this yet,

00:10:48.480 but remember Facebook, which owns WhatsApp and Instagram, shut down thousands of pro-Bolsonaro

00:10:54.500 campaign chat groups in his last election. They tried to stop him. They want to treat foreign 0.99

00:11:00.480 countries like little playthings, things you buy at an antique store or something. Oh, I got to get me

00:11:06.680 some of that country. I can control that country. Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Bezos, they think they're

00:11:10.680 gods. They think national boundaries are nothing to them. They're globalists by ideology. Their

00:11:16.400 companies act around the world commercially borders mean nothing to them. Why would they respect the

00:11:21.800 sovereignty of a foreign country any more than they respect the sovereignty of a US state? It's all

00:11:27.720 just places on a map for them to conquer in a game of risk where they get all the money. But it's so

00:11:33.340 interesting to me that in their vendetta against Trump, perhaps they've gone too far and have

00:11:37.860 caused the rest of the world to want to withdraw from the American internet. What a shame that would

00:11:43.360 be. The internet was a gift from America to the world, the gift of freedom and communication and

00:11:48.440 connection. But it was taken over by these socialist globalists who've wrecked it. But wouldn't it be

00:11:56.180 something if every country around the world reclaimed their social media and other parts of the

00:12:00.360 internet and took it back from the American oligarchs? Would you have local censorship instead

00:12:06.520 of Silicon Valley censorship? Well, probably. Would Uganda be any better than Silicon Valley when it 1.00

00:12:12.840 comes to freedom? I don't know. In some cases, no. But frankly, I'd rather have 200 little tyrants in 1.00

00:12:19.400 every country in the world than one colossus in Silicon Valley controlling the world. I'd rather

00:12:24.420 break up the cartel into 200 smaller parts, each country having its own rules, than to give all

00:12:30.440 that power to these messiah complex madmen in Silicon Valley. Maybe some places would be truly free.

00:12:38.920 Maybe there would be a country known for its internet freedom. Countries are known for things. Maybe a

00:12:45.580 country would make its promise to the world internet freedom. Just like for your Swiss banks were known for

00:12:54.080 their discretion and privacy, right? That was part of the Swiss thing. Maybe another country would

00:12:59.520 become known for its privacy and freedom for the internet. Right now, the tech giants aren't allowing

00:13:06.780 that, are they? But maybe this time they went too far. Stay with us for more on this with Alan Bocari.

00:13:24.080 Well, if you want to talk about the big tech titans, the masters of the universe censoring

00:13:30.200 political thought with which they disagree, there's only one guy to talk to. You know who I mean. He's

00:13:34.820 the author of the book called Deleted Big Tech's Battle to Erase the Trump Movement and Steal the

00:13:41.100 Election. He's been warning us for months. And alas, his warnings came true. I'm talking about our friend

00:13:46.900 Alan Bocari, senior tech editor of Breitbart. And he joins us now by Skype. Alan,

00:13:51.460 it's no fun being the guy who said, I told you so. I'm sure you wished that your prophecies were

00:13:57.040 wrong. Yes. And this is a topic we've been covering since 2015 at Breitbart News. We saw back then that,

00:14:06.600 you know, the sheer hostility of the left towards freedom of speech, quite a recent development,

00:14:12.620 was going to collide with the open internet, which of course was the greatest, was the greatest free

00:14:18.640 speech platform that ever existed. That's now been completely destroyed. And this is really the

00:14:23.780 culmination of a four-year process to undermine President Trump's chances of re-election, to

00:14:28.940 destroy his movement, and now ultimately to censor the president himself, the first world leader in

00:14:34.180 history to be permanently banned from Twitter and Facebook. Yeah, what's so interesting about

00:14:40.140 development since that ban is, I wouldn't have seen this coming, I wouldn't have predicted this,

00:14:46.020 that people who have criticized the ban include many world leaders, including those who have been

00:14:54.740 opposed to Trump on ideological matters. Angela Merkel of Germany, a globalist, I certainly wouldn't

00:15:02.300 call her a right-winger, the president of Mexico, pretty socialist guy, I think. But I never thought

00:15:09.840 of it from their point of view, I mean, having Mark Zuckerberg or Jack Dorsey censor Republicans

00:15:16.700 might be cool if you're a Democrat, but if you are a president of a foreign country who doesn't have

00:15:24.320 Zuckerberg on your speed dial, you're terrified that you might just be some plaything, you might be the

00:15:31.080 next guy censored in a kind of color revolution concocted out of Silicon Valley. I never thought

00:15:38.320 that people terrified of Silicon Valley would be in other countries, but that's pretty obvious now

00:15:44.440 that I think of it. That's absolutely true. I mean, why would, if you're a foreign country, 0.99

00:15:49.120 if you're a sovereign nation, why would you want to have the risk of a bunch of companies in Silicon

00:15:56.080 Valley, a bunch of American companies coming and interfering in your election and picking your

00:16:00.880 elected leaders, if they seem comfortable doing that in America, why wouldn't they do that in

00:16:06.780 Germany or in the UK or in Mexico or in Uganda? I mean, Uganda is run by a dictator, but just before

00:16:13.780 their recent election, they banned Facebook and Twitter. So I guess from the Ugandan government's

00:16:19.460 perspective, only the dictator is allowed to meddle in their elections. They don't want a bunch of 0.99

00:16:23.140 Silicon Valley hipsters doing it. So no matter what kind of country you are, you probably see

00:16:28.360 these tech giants as a huge reti or sovereign reti right now. That's so interesting to me. The Uganda

00:16:33.960 case, I don't know much about Uganda. I know it's never really been a free country, but when Twitter

00:16:40.020 posted some outraged tweet, how dare you Ugandan censor people, I can't believe the irony there. 0.99

00:16:48.000 They had just finished banning Donald Trump and now they're acting shocked, shocked that there's

00:16:53.580 gambling in this establishment. You know, they're shocked about censorship in Uganda. I don't know

00:16:58.840 enough about Uganda to say if I like the president there or not, but you got to hand it to him for

00:17:05.300 points for style, censoring Twitter after it censored Trump. There was something poetic about that.

00:17:13.420 And, you know, I'm sure that there was bad things being done by the dictator of Uganda,

00:17:18.580 but smacking away an American company that itself doesn't believe in free speech.

00:17:23.980 I got to say, I was on team Uganda for that one, Alan.

00:17:27.380 I was too. And this is the thing. Silicon Valley has really undermined America's moral authority.

00:17:33.900 You had a Chinese state media outlet saying, well, the U.S. is a threat to digital sovereignty now.

00:17:39.940 So, I mean, how can America claim to be, you know, the worldwide example of freedom and democracy

00:17:47.720 when right now it seems to be sliding into oligarchy with unaccountable corporate elites

00:17:51.820 appearing to have more power than the elected president?

00:17:55.100 Yeah, you know, the word oligarchs, it's such a strange word. It's like a small group of very rich,

00:18:01.300 I mean, it's not the same as plutocrat, but it's similar. It's like a small group of princes that run

00:18:08.280 a place. I had really only heard that for Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. A few oligarchs

00:18:14.380 rose who managed to accumulate billions in shady ways, and they were sort of an umbrella around 0.97

00:18:21.500 Yeltsin or Putin or whoever. To have that as a defining characteristic of America's key industry

00:18:28.460 is quite something, but I think it's accurate. But I got to thinking about India, Alan, because India,

00:18:34.680 there's a lot of tech going on in India, a lot of software and hardware successes,

00:18:41.280 a lot of engineers in that country. Many of them come to America, but it's getting its own domestic

00:18:46.180 tech industry. And they've recently been going through a battle with China in which they banned

00:18:52.700 over 50 Chinese apps, including TikTok. So, by the way, I'm sorry I didn't mention this. You've got a

00:18:59.120 great new article on Breitbart.com called France, Germany, Mexico, Australia, join international

00:19:04.780 outcry over censorship of Donald Trump. And you list a bunch of countries. But I want to focus on

00:19:10.580 India just for a second, because it really is a tech powerhouse. I'd say it's America,

00:19:17.540 UK, Israel, probably in second, and then India. I would say India is a tech powerhouse. I don't know

00:19:24.120 what your view on that is. But if they manage to rip out all the TikTok in their country and replace 0.90

00:19:31.180 it with domestic substitutes, why wouldn't or why couldn't Narendra Modi, who's probably offside

00:19:38.540 with these leftists in Silicon Valley, why wouldn't he ban Twitter, Facebook, and just have domestic

00:19:43.100 versions that couldn't censor people in India? What a great way for India to have its own market. And I'm

00:19:49.360 not normally one for censorship or for barriers. But you just can't trust Twitter or Facebook if

00:19:55.480 you're an American, and you sure can't trust them if you're an Indian. 1.00

00:19:59.540 Yeah, and you can't trust the Chinese technology companies either. I think this is a general global 1.00

00:20:04.840 trend we're seeing now, which is that if you're allowing these foreign tech companies into your

00:20:09.720 country, you have to worry, are they going to be a tool for that country to influence you,

00:20:16.240 for that country's government to influence you, or for just the CEOs of the company to try and

00:20:20.560 meddle in your politics? And one of the examples I list in my article is Hungary. Hungary is

00:20:26.140 developing. It's not the government, but there's a domestic social network, an alternative to Facebook

00:20:31.360 being built there. And some have accused the government of being involved in it. Well, if I

00:20:34.900 was the Hungarian government, I'd be openly involved in it because it's kind of in your national

00:20:39.080 interest now to have your own domestic social networks and not rely on these increasingly

00:20:43.860 authoritarian and politically biased tech companies in Silicon Valley.

00:20:49.320 Yeah. You know, I don't know what to make of it up here in Canada. We are so closely integrated

00:20:54.420 with the United States. Obviously, same time zones just across the border, culturally, linguistically,

00:21:00.380 we're so integrated. So I think that Canada is almost like a part of the United States for the

00:21:08.720 purposes of this discussion. And I think that the Canadian government under Justin Trudeau is actually

00:21:14.540 quite close to these tech leaders. And I think he's going to try and get a personal favored position

00:21:22.060 with the tech companies the same way the Democrats do. I think that Silicon Valley probably regards

00:21:27.340 Justin Trudeau as a Democratic Party guy just in a different country. I'm worried that the same

00:21:33.440 censorship you see in America will absolutely be done in Canada, but to Justin Trudeau's enemies,

00:21:40.260 not to Trudeau. I'm a little bit worried now that Trump is going, that Silicon Valley is going to

00:21:47.360 be Justin Trudeau's attack dog up here. I don't know, maybe I'm being too paranoid. But these days,

00:21:53.600 I don't think he can be paranoid enough when it comes to censorship.

00:21:56.340 No, I think you probably will see that. And I think you'll see the government of Canada trying

00:22:03.820 to work with these tech giants to censor their opposition. They're probably going to follow the

00:22:07.000 example of the Democrats in that sense, because you have the Democrats comparing conservatives to

00:22:12.240 domestic terrorists, to extremists, which is, of course, a coded message to Silicon Valley. You have

00:22:17.560 to censor all of these people. They're dangerous. They're inciting violence, et cetera, et cetera.

00:22:21.520 Meanwhile, of course, during the summer, they were openly making excuses for violence,

00:22:26.440 including through the mainstream media in articles that went viral across Twitter and other platforms.

00:22:31.820 But the general trend, I think, is tech companies as the muscle of neoliberal left-wing parties in the

00:22:40.460 U.S., in Canada, and basically anywhere else where they might have been.

00:22:45.620 We're in very strange times. I'm a little bit worried about our own safety. I don't mean

00:22:51.320 that physically. I mean that in terms of our freedom. I'm not looking for you to give away

00:22:55.620 any inside information, but does Breitbart, do you and your friends at Breitbart feel that you are

00:23:00.760 safe and secure from censorship, or do you worry that you will be deplatformed next?

00:23:09.680 Well, I don't think, I can't speak for Breitbart, but I don't think anyone feels safe right now. I think

00:23:15.540 we're entering a period of unprecedented draconianism with tech companies that have more power over our

00:23:22.240 communications, that know more about us than any other entity in history. And I think that combination

00:23:28.780 of state tyranny and corporate tyranny is not going to be like anything we've seen before. There's no

00:23:34.020 historical comparison for it, really. Yeah. Well, we'll keep in touch with you until one of us is

00:23:40.960 unpersoned and deplatformed first. And I congratulate you on your excellent work. If only more people

00:23:48.100 had listened to your book. But maybe this is a problem that had to become clearer and more stark.

00:23:55.680 As the Leninists say, the worse, the better. I don't really believe in that, because I think that

00:24:00.180 we don't want things to get worse. But people are seeing how bad it is. And maybe now only now that

00:24:05.860 they'll act. Great to see you again, Alan. Look forward to talking to you more in the future.

00:24:10.060 Thanks, Ed. All right. There you have it, Alan Bokhari, one of the good guys who's been

00:24:14.100 warning about tech censorship from M.M. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:24:18.060 Hey, welcome back on my show last night. Bruce writes,

00:24:32.940 on the contrary, why aren't we Rebel News viewers bombarding the federal conservatives

00:24:37.500 with letters asking why the party is boycotting the only true conservative network? It's easy

00:24:42.380 enough to get the address of Erin O'Toole and other MPs. And since my MP is a conservative party

00:24:47.080 member, I'll write to her directly and hope for an answer. Well, thank you very much for that. We

00:24:52.320 did send an email out to some folks, I don't know if you got it, with the phone number of the

00:24:56.920 conservative party headquarters in Ottawa. So I know a number of people called because I got some copies

00:25:01.640 of some emails and some reports back. We also had a poll, as you know, at banrebelnews.com, which sort

00:25:08.500 of tilted it towards the ban us side. But last I checked, I'm not even kidding, 99% of people voted

00:25:14.140 not to ban us. Maybe I should have expected that. But I don't know. I already see that just today,

00:25:20.880 a conservative MP did an interview with our Kean Bextie in Calgary. So I'm not sure if all the

00:25:28.960 conservative MPs and senators are going along with this ban on Rebel News. It was a really dumb idea 0.98

00:25:33.800 when Andrew Scheer did it. I think the party really missed out on a lot of opportunities to talk to the 0.69

00:25:38.740 conservative part of this country. Plus, it also showed conservative voters that maybe Andrew

00:25:43.560 Scheer wasn't that strong-willed. I hope Aaron O'Toole doesn't make that mistake. Again, he did make

00:25:48.740 the mistake, but hopefully he can get out of it. Look, we're going to keep doing what we do. I think

00:25:53.740 we covered the federal election really well last time. I think we had reporters going around the

00:25:59.440 whole country, and now we have like three more reporters than we had last year. So we're going to

00:26:04.300 cover the election, I think, really well. We've got great people. And what the conservatives do,

00:26:09.220 they'll do. And if they don't want to talk to us, I think that's really weird. It would be like if the

00:26:13.940 Liberal Party said, we're not talking to the Toronto Star anymore. Why? It's your like hometown paper

00:26:20.580 for Liberal Toronto. Well, we're mad at them. Okay, whatever. Cut off your nose to spite your face, as they

00:26:25.620 say. Gilly writes, at this point, the CPC should just walk across the floor en masse and join the liberals, 0.74

00:26:32.060 seeing how they are so eager to please them. They just seem bound and determined to lose the next

00:26:36.420 election. Listen, I mean, they've got their job to do. But come on, if you're really going to allow

00:26:41.240 your opponents and your rivals to tell you who you can and can't talk to, you're never going to win.

00:26:47.860 I mean, can we not agree, just as a common sense principle, that the advice your enemies give you

00:26:54.800 is probably wrong. It's probably a trick or it's probably designed to weaken you. So if the

00:27:03.460 Liberals say to the conservatives, don't talk to Rebel News, there's a tiny chance that's bad faith

00:27:09.020 advice. Michael writes, the latest stunt on emergency alert twice is a perfect example of making sure

00:27:15.140 that we use fear and know better than you to ensure obedience. The conditioning is incredible.

00:27:19.500 You're talking about your cell phone, where Doug Ford, the Premier of Ontario, sent a message to

00:27:25.040 everyone in the province saying, stay at home, stay at home, it's the law. When in fact, there are

00:27:28.420 plenty of reasons you're allowed to leave your house. But you're right, it all goes to the fear

00:27:31.740 and paranoia. And today, an MP named Roman Babber, excuse me, Babber, I'm sorry, I got his name wrong.

00:27:41.360 He wrote a letter to Premier Doug Ford and said, look, lockdowns aren't working. Here's the stats.

00:27:46.620 Lockdowns are making it worse. Plus, the problem is not as acute as you say it is. He was fired

00:27:52.240 immediately, not just from the party offices he held. He was banned from the party altogether.

00:27:59.380 So, yeah, I think Doug Ford is, as his position gets weaker and weaker, he's getting more and more

00:28:06.040 brutal in his lockdown. That's why we're expanding our fightthefines.com operation. I'll give you more

00:28:11.620 info on that next week. That's our show for today. Until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel

00:28:17.200 World Headquarters and you at home, good night. Keep fighting for free.

Rebel News Podcast - January 16, 2021

Wouldn’t it be strange if Mexico and Germany saved us from American censorship？

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