Rebel News Podcast - August 15, 2018


Maxime Bernier says there’s such a thing as too much diversity — and Canadian establishment explodes!

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cultural balkanization Boris Johnson niqab comparison lawsuits
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Justin Trudeau Andrew Scheer Aaron Gunn Maxime Bernier John A. Macdonald Boris Johnson Gavin McInnes Ezra Take Donald Trump Doug Ford Antifa Yasmin Mohamed Brian Mulroney Pierre Trudeau Stephen Harper Dave Rubin Faisal Hussain Ayaan Hirsi Ali George Washington Sheila Gunn-Reed and 24 more
20 racists march in the U.S — and 2,000 leftists riot in response “This is Trudeau at his worst”： New national holiday designed to shame Canadians as racists

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Maxime Bernier says there's such a thing as too much diversity, and the Canadian establishment explodes, and Ezra Levant's brain explodes, too. The Ezra Levant Show is on all of the social medias, if you search for it, you'll find us.

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00:00:00.000 Tonight, Maxime Bernier says there's such a thing as too much diversity, and the Canadian 1.00
00:00:04.980 establishment explodes. It's August 14th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:15.400 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:19.180 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:22.940 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
00:00:25.900 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my
00:00:30.920 bloody right to do so.
00:00:36.420 I like Maxime Bernier, and so do a lot of other conservatives. He got 49.05% of the vote
00:00:43.540 in the Conservative Party of Canada leadership contest. In fact, he led the race for the first
00:00:48.960 12 ballots, losing by a sliver on the 13th. He's the opposite of Andrew Scheer in so many ways.
00:00:54.980 He's got charisma. Scheer has anti-charisma. He cuts a dashing figure that has sometimes got him
00:01:01.200 in trouble. Andrew Scheer, he boasts about his minivan. They're opposites in style. But style
00:01:07.660 and substance can meet when it comes to, I don't know, courage, for example, don't you think?
00:01:14.880 Take Donald Trump. His over-the-top chutzpah is a personality trait, a style, for sure. But it also
00:01:21.200 goes to his substance. He takes on political correctness. He cuts through niceties in foreign 0.99
00:01:25.660 diplomacy. His style actually becomes his substance. And so it is with Bernier and Scheer.
00:01:30.780 Maxime Bernier is a Quebec MP, but he has made abolishing Canada's rigged dairy cartel a high
00:01:36.360 priority. Andrew Scheer, even though he's an MP from Saskatchewan, has gone to absurd lengths for
00:01:41.560 the Quebec dairy cartel and what's called supply management. That's just a code word for banning
00:01:45.920 private competition in milk and cheese and yogurt and putting on huge taxes on American imports.
00:01:52.840 Just happens to be a big problem for Donald Trump, by the way, and it's going to derail NAFTA and
00:01:56.940 probably cost us our entire auto industry as Trump slaps taxes on our cars in retaliation if we don't 0.63
00:02:02.980 fix it. Just this week, Donald Trump made the same threat all over again. Even Brian Mulroney is worried
00:02:09.540 about it. Brian Mulroney, the champion of all things Quebec, he says we have to compromise. But hey,
00:02:14.580 Quebec dairy farmers put Scheer over the top as conservative leader, so he's just returning the
00:02:19.340 favor. Substance and style, I think. Courage. Takes courage to challenge the establishment. You'd think an
00:02:27.560 opposition leader would be built to do that, to be a challenger, but not Andrew Scheer. He's caved on so many
00:02:32.380 things where he's afraid of the establishment, especially the establishment media. Under peer pressure, he
00:02:38.000 blurted out that he absolutely loves the Paris Agreement on the Kyoto Protocol to reduce global warming. He
00:02:44.200 absolutely loves the Paris Agreement. He would absolutely meet its targets, he says. He said that
00:02:53.000 just a few months ago. Remember this? Will you unveil a plan that will actually meet the Paris
00:02:57.860 targets? Of course I will unveil a plan that reaches the targets that we have already voted in favor of.
00:03:04.560 We believe that Canada has to be part of the solution. We want to have, we will, we will have
00:03:08.560 a meaningful plan to reduce emissions. You see how that style and substance his style is?
00:03:13.900 He's totally terrified of fighting with a journalist. So on the substance, he's totally
00:03:19.840 terrified of taking on the establishment love for global warming, even though Doug Ford has just proved
00:03:25.760 that's a huge winner. And even Justin Trudeau himself now looks like he's starting to blink
00:03:29.400 on his carbon tax. But Andrew Scheer is pushed around by a single journalist. Too bad Andrew Scheer
00:03:35.440 isn't leading the parade against the carbon tax. He could have if he would have had the courage to
00:03:41.900 stand up to the bullies in the liberal media, but he doesn't. Well this week we've had another
00:03:46.440 illustration in that. Bernier made a series of tweets about Justin Trudeau's endless mantra
00:03:52.900 that he's trying to turn into an unofficial Canadian motto. Diversity is our strength. What does that even
00:04:00.080 mean? Well that's the thing, you're not really supposed to think about it too carefully, you're just
00:04:03.860 supposed to repeat it again and again. And it leads to things like this, a statue of Sir Johnny
00:04:09.060 MacDonald, our founding prime minister, the man who built the railway that kept Canada together,
00:04:12.900 our version of George Washington, in his own peaceful Canadian way, I guess he's just gone now.
00:04:18.000 Statue taken down from outside Victoria City Hall. He's gone from our $10 bill now.
00:04:23.460 They had enough moral cover from the media to take the statue down. Diversity is our strength,
00:04:30.620 BS, but not quite enough for the people. They didn't have a proper referendum. They did it super
00:04:36.240 early in the morning before the public could stop him. I think people are getting fed up with the
00:04:42.280 political correctness. I think people are getting fed up. Sheila Gunn-Reed broke a huge story last 0.99
00:04:46.060 week about how Trudeau's Syrian migrants were put up in hotels at taxpayer expense and then proceeded to
00:04:51.580 trash the hotel, starting fires, ripping up Bibles, urinating in the lobby, wrecking the pool, abusing
00:04:56.700 female staff. People know this, or at least sense this, or they get glimpses of this. 1.00
00:05:02.460 We see that our RCMP and border police have been turned into concierges and bellhops, luggage boys, 1.00
00:05:07.720 literally helping people break the law by illegally crossing into Canada, not at a proper border point
00:05:13.060 of entry, literally helping these criminals carry their luggage. I say criminals because their very
00:05:17.780 first act is to break the law. But Trudeau, he has actually set up an intake program. You can see
00:05:22.780 there he's got a whole system there. He's giving them free hotels now. He's not enforcing the law.
00:05:27.460 He's not building a fence. We see this and we see it's a scam. And then we have terrorism like the
00:05:34.020 mass shooting in Toronto's Danforth Avenue in Greektown. And we see how the government hides his
00:05:38.740 shooter's identity for a day until his social media accounts can be scrubbed maybe, or a PR letter can be
00:05:45.640 written claiming he has mental illness. Later turns out it was written just by a spin doctor, not really his
00:05:50.740 parents. ISIS literally claimed responsibility for Faisal Hussein, but the media and the police say,
00:05:55.640 no, no, no, no, no, no, that's impossible. We see all this. We're not stupid. We see weird things.
00:06:04.160 Like Seamus O'Regan, Trudeau's right-hand man in Newfoundland, cabinet minister, tweeting that
00:06:09.000 immigrants are just better, just better at creating jobs than Canadians. They're more industrious,
00:06:15.060 I guess. They're just better people. It's factually false in a number of ways. But the sneering,
00:06:19.140 hatred for Canadians, the otherism, literally preferring others to yourselves, that's unmistakable.
00:06:25.960 We take more immigrants proportionately than any other Western country does. Only 8% of Canadians
00:06:31.820 think that number should be increased, by the way. And still, Justin Trudeau increased it. He's pushing
00:06:37.720 as hard as he can. And his Muslim Somali immigration minister, a refugee himself, says the Canadians are
00:06:44.660 racist. We literally saved his life. He claimed he was in jeopardy. It's what refugee means. But he 0.86
00:06:52.480 tweets that Canadians are racist. And we discriminate. He's angry at us. We saved his life. His fellow 0.87
00:07:00.840 Toronto Liberal MP, another immigrant named Selena Cesar Chavannes, tells people to shut up if they're 1.00
00:07:07.260 white and male. In fact, she said that to Maxime Bernier himself. She was invited to Canada. She 0.66
00:07:13.720 benefited from Canada. She wasn't invited here. She applied to come here. She was allowed here.
00:07:18.680 She's benefited from Canada. She and Ahmed, his son, were allowed to reach the highest heights. And
00:07:25.080 they call us racist while being racist themselves. But there's Trudeau in his endless, brainless 1.00
00:07:32.580 patter. Canadians understand that diversity is our strength. We know that Canada has succeeded
00:07:40.900 culturally, politically, economically, because of our diversity, not in spite of it. He says that
00:07:49.860 all the time. It's his filler. It's like how, I mean, he also says um and ah, but it's the equivalent
00:07:55.740 to um and ah. He just fills time if he doesn't have words to say. So finally, Maxime Bernier
00:08:02.340 weighed in on Twitter about that mantra. It was both substance. He explained his position.
00:08:08.600 And it was style. He wasn't cowering in fear of the media party. He wasn't afraid to cross the media,
00:08:14.980 which is Andrew Scheer's signature emotional response. Here's a series of tweets written
00:08:19.860 by Bernier. I want to show them to you. He was responding to this story on Global.
00:08:25.120 Diversity is what makes Canada strong. Trudeau, that's the name of the story. And Prime Minister
00:08:30.340 Justin Trudeau, I'm reading from the story here. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau celebrated Canada's
00:08:34.440 diversity as he helped mark the opening of Toronto's Taste of the Danforth Food Festival
00:08:38.500 just weeks after a mass shooting that claimed two lives. So here's a clip. Take a look.
00:08:42.840 Always as we look to what makes our community strong, one of the best examples is right here.
00:08:48.900 Our diversity. The resilience that comes from different perspectives, different backgrounds,
00:08:54.300 different cultures, coming together and celebrating the same things. A beautiful summer evening,
00:09:00.940 great flavors, great friends, new friends we're meeting. That is at the essence of our countries,
00:09:07.040 the essence of our values. It's at the essence of what we share with the world, loudly and proudly,
00:09:13.820 when we gather together and celebrate that our differences are a source of strength, never a source of weakness.
00:09:20.600 Yes. Yeah, except that it was a Pakistani-Canadian, an extremist whose family was up to their eyeballs 0.98
00:09:26.980 in violence and illegal guns and illegal drugs. It was this criminal family from which Faisal Hossein 0.97
00:09:33.580 came to murder and wound. Maybe a bit too much diversity going on, don't you think? Here's how 1.00
00:09:39.320 Bernier put it in direct response to that news article. He said, Trudeau keeps pushing his diversity
00:09:44.760 as our strength slogan. Yes, Canada is a huge and diverse country. This diversity is part of us and
00:09:50.220 should be celebrated. But where do we draw the line? And then as you can see, he linked to that
00:09:55.740 story. I'll read some more tweets since it was in the series. His next one, ethnic, religious,
00:10:00.800 linguistic, sexual and other minorities were unjustly repressed in the past. We've done a lot
00:10:05.120 to redress those injustices and give everyone equal rights. Canada is today one of the countries
00:10:10.320 where people have the most freedom to express their identity. All right, so far pretty unremarkable,
00:10:15.140 don't you think? In fact, he's really just checking off all the boxes, ethnicity, religion,
00:10:20.700 sexuality, whatever. Really, a liberal could say everything he's said so far. I'm going to keep
00:10:25.180 going. Look at this. He says, but why should we promote ever more diversity? If anything and
00:10:33.600 everything is Canadian, does being Canadian mean something? Shouldn't we emphasize our cultural
00:10:38.620 traditions? What we have built and have in common? What makes us different from other cultures 0.99
00:10:43.200 and societies? Exactly. I mean, do you know what the United States official motto is? Not
00:10:50.000 just a cliche spouted by Trudeau, but it was the official American motto adopted in 1782.
00:10:57.800 It's in Latin. It's e pluribus unum. Have you ever heard that? It means out of many, one.
00:11:07.620 As in America took a diversity and they forged it into a unity. They didn't take a unity and split
00:11:13.100 it up into a diversity. They united. They didn't divide and say, oh, we're dividing and this is
00:11:19.220 awesome. They took a division and put it together and said, look what we've built together. That's
00:11:24.040 awesome. E pluribus unum is the exact opposite of diversity. It's our strength, isn't it? And
00:11:31.000 shouldn't Trudeau and the Liberal Party of all people know that we have some things that are
00:11:35.640 non-negotiable at our core and underlying identity that is Canadian? I mean, didn't his father,
00:11:40.260 Pierre Trudeau, build his prime ministership on that? Does our flag mean nothing? Or to be more
00:11:46.300 Trudeopian, does our constitution, our chart of rights mean nothing, if you must? Our history,
00:11:51.420 I mean, even bilingualism, which Pierre Trudeau foisted on the whole country to appease Quebec,
00:11:56.460 isn't that different from the cacophony of the Tower of Babel with a million languages spoken,
00:12:02.600 but no one talking to each other? Isn't that the point of Canada? That it's not just a hotel room
00:12:08.160 or an airport terminal, that it's a place with some meaning, and not just anyone's meaning. We
00:12:12.760 have a different meaning than Pakistan or North Korea or Cuba, and it's why people, in fact, flee
00:12:18.020 those countries to come here. I'll read more from Bernier's tweets. He said, having people live among us
00:12:23.420 who reject basic Western values such as freedom, equality, tolerance, and openness doesn't make us
00:12:28.360 strong. People who refuse to integrate into our society and want to live apart in their ghetto 0.86
00:12:32.660 don't make our society strong. Exactly. That's the heart of it there. If you're against the
00:12:38.600 equality of men and women, if you are diverse in that way, you're not Canadian. If you believe in 0.98
00:12:45.100 the supremacy of one religion, say, in Islam, over infidels, or to make it easier for the leftists to 0.94
00:12:51.760 see the point, if you believe that whites are racially superior to blacks, let's say, that's un-Canadian.
00:12:57.720 How is this at all controversial? This is liberal, isn't it? He's talking about including everyone,
00:13:04.000 getting away from the balkanization of ghettos. How on earth is that bad? It's what the progressive 0.97
00:13:09.020 integrationists of the 1960s fought for in the States. Blacks and whites living together peacefully.
00:13:14.680 How is that out of vogue in 2018? And don't you think that most immigrants reading his comments
00:13:19.320 would say, right on, brother, to Maxime Bernier. Let me read his fifth tweet. He said,
00:13:22.940 Trudeau's extreme multiculturalism and cult of diversity will divide us into little tribes that
00:13:29.100 have less and less in common, apart from their dependence on government in Ottawa. These tribes
00:13:33.260 become political clienteles to be bought with taxpayers' dollars and special privileges. Again,
00:13:38.040 he's so right. And this is actually one of the multiculturalism strategies that was deployed by
00:13:42.260 Stephen Harper and Jason Kenney. Don't just pay off ethnic power brokers and bosses. Try to find some 1.00
00:13:47.440 underlying values of commonality and talk to them about that. Bernier is simply
00:13:52.580 restating the Harper way. He's criticizing the affirmative action payoffs by the liberal
00:13:57.820 establishment. Again, I say right on, and I bet most minorities and immigrants would agree.
00:14:02.900 Last tweet. Cultural balkanization brings distrust, social conflict, and potentially violence.
00:14:09.640 As we are seeing everywhere, it's time we reverse this trend before the situation gets worse.
00:14:14.260 More diversity will not be our strength. It will destroy what has made us such a great country. 1.00
00:14:18.640 So what's he talking about? His tweets are sort of a Rorschach test. You know, those inkblots you look
00:14:26.760 at that you can project your own ideas onto them. You're not actually describing the inkblot. You're
00:14:31.920 describing what's in your own mind. But even as a philosophy in the abstract, I think his tweets are
00:14:38.100 irrefutable and it's patriotic and it's inclusive. And if you want to know what he really means by this
00:14:43.860 dog whistle politics, it's not hard to guess. I mean, open the newspapers on any given day.
00:14:48.920 Open borders, fake refugees, Muslim terrorist attacks, the burqa and niqab becoming ubiquitous, 1.00
00:14:56.220 anti-historical extremism, tearing down statues, rewriting our anthem, revising even whose pictures 0.63
00:15:01.940 are on our money. It's obvious. Again, what's the objection here? Well, the objection is that you can't
00:15:09.100 say this because you can't say anything that deviates from the establishment line. You can and
00:15:14.140 you must have every sort of diversity imaginable except for diversity of opinion. Which, by the way,
00:15:22.000 I hazard the statement that the vast majority of Canadians agree with, including new Canadians.
00:15:27.840 The media knew their job. Immediately run to every other conservative and demand that they disavow
00:15:32.520 this racist, this racist who praises different ethnicities, invites everyone to combine and
00:15:38.100 integrate. What a racist. Of course, personality-wise, they were indeed able to find quite a few 1.00
00:15:44.060 knock-kneed, timid conservatives willing to disown Bernier. They were terrified of being asked tough
00:15:49.320 questions by mean CTV or CBC or McLean's reporters, so they told the reporters what they wanted to hear.
00:15:55.520 Surprisingly, Andrew Scheer did not really throw Bernier under the bus. Rather, he simply hid from the
00:16:00.940 cameras and bravely had an assistant read out a message in favor of diversity and inclusion. It
00:16:06.700 was sort of a passive-aggressive statement, but not quite as eloquent as Bernier, but not throwing
00:16:11.780 him under the bus either. The media were unsatisfied and tried to spin that as Scheer giving Bernier a
00:16:18.180 rebuke, but it didn't actually look that way to me. It looked like Scheer knows that actually
00:16:22.600 most Canadians side with Bernier, and surely most Canadian conservatives do. And Andrew Scheer probably
00:16:30.740 detects that his own reticence on the subject of Islam and the sheer number of migrants to Canada,
00:16:38.280 it's a weakness with his own party, even if the media love him for being so shy. It will be
00:16:43.300 interesting to see what happens at the upcoming Conservative Convention next week in Halifax. I
00:16:46.920 wonder whose party it really is anymore. Is it really the party of Andrew Scheer? Fear of the CBC and
00:16:53.860 other media party journalists? Love for the Quebec dairy cartel? Terrified about anything touching on
00:17:00.380 culture, national identity, patriotism, immigration? Is it that party, or is it the party of confident,
00:17:06.280 patriotic conservatism that has enough self-respect to stand up to statue destroyers and history 0.97
00:17:11.500 deleters? For decades, Quebec has actually been the Canadian home of ethnic nationalism and
00:17:18.500 populism and cultural pride in Canada. Think about it. May that same spirit of pride, that sense of
00:17:24.520 identity that we're more than just a hotel room, we're more than just an address, maybe it can come
00:17:29.060 to the rest of us Canadians from Quebec, not in xenophobia, not in hatred, but the love for the unity
00:17:35.600 of purpose and respect for our history and cultural traditions. That's what makes a country. It's not a list
00:17:42.060 of differences, no matter what Justin Trudeau tells us. Stay with us for more on this Sir John A. statue.
00:17:50.160 Welcome back. Well, we've been talking about the symbolism of literally removing a statue of
00:18:13.820 John A. MacDonald, the founding father of the Confederation, our first prime minister,
00:18:17.020 removing the statue from the City Hall in Victoria, B.C. And by the way, how much longer till
00:18:22.400 Victoria is renamed, named after the Queen of England and the Empress of the British Empire?
00:18:29.480 And how long till British Columbia, the British part offensive to some, the Columbus part offensive
00:18:36.560 to others? How long before we stop speaking English, a language embedded with races? How long 1.00
00:18:43.840 before we stop saying the year 2018? That's very Christian-centric. This is getting absurd. And 1.00
00:18:51.620 someone who was there standing and bearing witness to this desecration of our history is our friend
00:18:59.800 Aaron Gunn. He's a spokesman with B.C. Proud. And he was there when they took the statue down. Aaron,
00:19:06.000 great to see you. Thanks for joining us today on The Rebel. Thank you for having me, Ezra.
00:19:09.980 I'm so mad about what's happening here. And the way that this was done in such a sneaky fashion
00:19:14.300 makes me upset. Why don't you tell me a little bit about what you did that day? I understand that
00:19:18.580 you were having a grassroots protest in support of the statue. Tell me how it went down.
00:19:26.320 Yeah. So the first place to start is we didn't have a lot of time to put anything together. The
00:19:30.220 council came out of nowhere with this on Wednesday. On Thursday, they held a quick vote. And on Saturday
00:19:36.860 morning, they were taking down the statue. Now, we didn't know. They just said the weekend at first.
00:19:41.300 So we planned to rally in support of not just Sir John A. McDonald, but our history and our culture
00:19:47.580 for Saturday at noon. And they kind of pulled a fast one on us and started turning down the statue.
00:19:53.680 I mean, the crews were working at about 4.45 a.m. when I showed up. And they'd fenced it all off the
00:19:58.780 night before. And even I heard one of the counselors talking today who wanted to delay it,
00:20:03.580 even though she still wanted to move it. And the mayor of Victoria, who was really a complete
00:20:09.800 disgrace to the city, said that, sorry, we can't do that. The crane's already booked. So they booked
00:20:15.200 the crane before they even informed council about this vote. And so they took the statue down. It was
00:20:22.740 carted away. It was terrible to watch. It was like watching a funeral. They had like a noose kind of
00:20:27.720 around his head like a rope. Oh, my God. Reminds me of how they how they tore down the Saddam Hussein 0.95
00:20:34.040 statues after the liberation. We see it here. We're watching it here. So what we have here,
00:20:39.820 the footage you sent us. Thank you very much. I see one young man draped in the flag of BC,
00:20:44.900 another young man draped in the Canadian flag. I see you all behind a fence. So this what time of day
00:20:51.600 would this have been? So it's no longer 4.55 a.m. Obviously, they've been working for a while.
00:20:57.340 What time was this that you took this footage? So depending on the clip you're looking at,
00:21:02.680 he was finally carried away in the in the bed of a truck, basically at around 715. And they first
00:21:10.440 kind of took them like dismembered him or whatever you want, like from the ground at around 630.
00:21:17.640 So you guys got there really early. How many people? I mean, that's quite impressive on a
00:21:21.620 weekend to have a substantial crowd at 6, 7 a.m. I'm impressed. Did you just sort of spread the word
00:21:31.520 when you saw the crane there at 455? Is that did I hear you right when you said did you say 455 or
00:21:36.420 something? Yeah. So what happened is we no one knew the time. The media couldn't even figure out the
00:21:40.860 time. And then finally, we had a rally planned for noon. And then we finally kind of leaked out that
00:21:45.760 it was going to be at like 8 a.m. They were telling people. And then at midnight the night
00:21:49.940 before, I got a text message from a city worker who that's kind of a long story. He was like the
00:21:55.240 dad of someone I went to high school with. And he said, just so you know, they're trying to be
00:21:59.260 sneaky about this. They're actually starting to take it down at 5 a.m. 5 a.m. You know, I got to tell
00:22:04.640 you, Aaron, I'm not very familiar with cranes of this sort. But my common sense and you tell me if I'm
00:22:13.060 wrong here, tell me if you maybe have more experience of this. To book a crane to be in
00:22:18.480 place at 5 a.m., that doesn't sound normal. I mean, crane operators, I mean, hardworking guys, power
00:22:24.240 engineers, whatever. But generally, you see them working in daylight hours for reasons of noise.
00:22:31.840 And, you know, because that's when guys sleep at night. They work in the day. I mean, there are some
00:22:36.040 mines where you would work 24 hours a day. But it seems to me like this was done as a deliberate
00:22:41.600 trick. They probably even paid extra to have the guy wake up really early. Like, it just seems
00:22:46.760 abnormal and sneaky and deliberate to have a 5 a.m. show up. He must have had to get up at 3 a.m.,
00:22:52.740 get the crane, get down there. It sounds like a stitch up. It sounds like this was all a sneaky plan.
00:22:59.740 Oh, totally. I mean, it's something out of 1984. Like, it's under the cover of darkness,
00:23:04.180 tearing down statues, rewriting history. They also installed, like, where the statue was,
00:23:08.740 this plaque basically talking about all the bad things that McDonald did and why they moved the
00:23:13.500 statue. Really? So they have a denunciation of him on the spot where he used to stand. Really?
00:23:19.020 Right. And that must have taken weeks, though, to get this. Like, it's a big, fancy plaque. It's
00:23:24.100 probably not like on a podium plaque thing. Like, it's gold engraving. Like, I don't know.
00:23:28.900 That probably took a couple of weeks to order, I imagine. So they had this planned out for a while,
00:23:34.080 obviously. And then just try to spring it on the public and kind of force it down everyone's
00:23:38.300 throats. And what a fake. You said that this was ratified, like, a couple days before it happens.
00:23:43.620 This whole thing was an inside job. The fact that they had, you're right, that plaque, there's no
00:23:47.800 way you can get a plaque like that ready on that short notice. This was a monstrous trick. I wonder
00:23:53.940 who was in on it. Yeah. So there's three, obviously the mayor. And then there's like two or three
00:24:01.360 city councils on this, quote unquote, working group that were tasked themselves with reconciliation
00:24:06.540 and stuff. By the way, this is the worst possible thing for reconciliation. It's supposed to bring
00:24:10.240 communities together. Obviously, this just drives them apart. But they, so there's a couple of
00:24:15.480 counselors at least and the mayor that knew about this. And obviously, it was their plan to kind of
00:24:20.280 spring this on everyone and probably just get it out of the way as quickly as possible. And I think
00:24:24.080 they've been surprised at how quickly that there are, how much pushback they perceive from it.
00:24:29.000 Well, I should hope so. Now, I understand we have a little bit of a clip from the actual
00:24:34.060 protest. And I wouldn't mind showing that just for a moment to show that you were there, Aaron,
00:24:40.080 on short notice early in the morning, your team at BC Proud. And we like BC Proud. We've been
00:24:45.600 following Ontario Proud. They were very effective in the election here in Ontario. I'm really delighted
00:24:50.860 that you're working for BC Proud and BC. Can we play the clip just for a second here? Let's take a look.
00:24:55.120 Today is a sad day for Victoria. It's a sad day for British Columbia. And it's a sad day
00:25:02.360 for Canada. Right behind me, a statue of our first Prime Minister, Sir John A. Macdonald,
00:25:10.120 is being torn down. This follows the order given by Mayor Lisa Helps and her cronies on City Council
00:25:16.260 to tear down this piece of our history without public consultation and without public debate.
00:25:22.200 So I guess you were speaking at that point to the camera. I saw someone else standing up there. I
00:25:27.860 think it looked like a lady in blue. Was she with the media or something? Is that who that other lady 1.00
00:25:31.500 was? Yeah, there's quite a bit of media there. There's, you know, getting footage for the national
00:25:37.100 media. That person, there was some, I don't know, Neil Marx's person or something. Oh, so there was
00:25:41.580 someone there cheering this also, eh? Well, they were purposely basically just trying to make noise for my
00:25:46.240 video. They weren't making any noise. And then they saw I was about to film it. They started what I
00:25:49.680 can only describe as yelping sounds that were just kind of annoying. But that pretty much summed up
00:25:54.360 the rally later, which was I tried to speak and they, they, everyone listened to their speakers. 0.89
00:25:59.760 And then when we tried to speak, they all started these, you know, the crazy white supremacies chants. 0.91
00:26:03.840 You've heard them a hundred times before. Now, I mentioned Ontario before. Of course, there's a new 0.90
00:26:08.200 premier out here. Doug Ford is his name. And I know that he has publicly offered to take the statue
00:26:13.660 of John A. MacDonald. Has there been any reply from the mayor or city council of Victoria? I mean,
00:26:19.620 what are they going to do with the physical statue? I think if Ontario wants it, let them have it.
00:26:25.560 It'll surely be treated more respectfully than Victoria. Any feedback from there? Has the mayor
00:26:32.720 responded at all? I believe the mayor slightly declined the offer, or at least declined the offer.
00:26:40.020 My hope is that this October, there's municipal elections here in British Columbia, including
00:26:45.400 Victoria. And I hope we have a new mayor and council that reinstate the statue. Now, when they took it
00:26:50.520 down, they said they were going to move it to some other location to be decided at a later date to
00:26:56.640 recontextualize Sir John A. But I mean, why would you take, if you wanted to move the statue like in
00:27:03.000 front of the legislature or something, that why wouldn't you come up with your new location first and then
00:27:08.500 take the statue and move it? So they clearly have no intention of doing that unless they feel the
00:27:13.260 political heat. Maybe they're going to change their minds or something. But they had no intention of
00:27:17.120 ever the statue seeing the light of day again. Well, we know they were acting in bad faith the
00:27:21.880 midnight or the 5 a.m. crane appointment. That's not normal. That's a trick. The fact that they had
00:27:28.000 the plaque, which surely took weeks to make, that's a trick. This whole thing has been, as my friend
00:27:33.740 Tommy Robinson would say, a stitch up. Two last questions for you, Aaron. Is there any, you mentioned
00:27:40.280 municipal elections are coming up. Is there any candidate on the horizon who looks like a common
00:27:45.580 sense alternative? So I've actually been looking into that. I haven't, we're trying to figure out
00:27:51.340 who the serious, you know, municipal elections can be kind of confusing on who the, who's the serious
00:27:55.540 challengers. Merrily Selfs definitely has challengers. I think the stronger challengers will be for
00:28:00.860 new council members who, as you know, obviously a lot of the, just as much power is held in the
00:28:06.980 council as the mayor. So I'm very hopeful. There's this, this mayor, this is just the latest of a
00:28:12.680 string of insults to taxpayers from spending millions of dollars on bike lanes that no one uses
00:28:18.240 to hiking property taxes over and over again. So I would hope that this mayor and council's days
00:28:24.780 are numbered. Victoria is a weird city because it's not amalgamated there. There's 13 municipalities.
00:28:29.760 So the city of Victoria itself is actually not that big. So it kind of leads to strange results
00:28:35.100 sometimes. Well, Aaron, I'm so pleased you're doing what you're doing. I'm so glad you got there so
00:28:39.500 early. That tells me that you're really alert to things. And I liked your remarks that you gave to
00:28:44.660 the camera there, even if you were being heckled, I'm glad you were there. Can you tell our viewers,
00:28:49.380 what's the best way to find you on Facebook? Am I right? Do you have a website also, or is it mainly
00:28:53.280 Facebook based? Yeah, you can visit facebook.com slash bcproud. And you can also visit my personal
00:28:59.980 one where you see all my content at facebook.com slash aarongun.ca. And we're always out there
00:29:04.840 talking about different issues, federal, provincial, and in this case, kind of a local and an intersection
00:29:10.020 of the three. Yeah, well, I got to tell you, we like the cut of your jib, as they say. And, you know,
00:29:15.200 we've talked to you before with your other projects. Do me a favor, if you if there's more on this
00:29:20.260 story. And if there's other shenanigans in Victoria, or in BC in general, don't be shy about
00:29:25.980 reaching out to us, because I want the rest of Canada to see this too. Because what's happening
00:29:30.140 in Victoria is not isolated to Victoria, that same willful destruction of our history, rewriting our
00:29:36.840 history, demonizing our history, warts and all. I'm not saying Sir John A. was perfect. But it's
00:29:43.800 Stalinist to destroy a statue, especially of your own leaders. So Aaron, I hope that this is the 1.00
00:29:50.620 first of many new conversations we have in your position with BC Proud. Thank you very much, Ezra.
00:29:56.720 All right, take care and good luck out there. Thanks. That's our friend Aaron Gunn with BC Proud. I've
00:30:02.400 followed their Ontario group called Ontario Proud, obviously, and I thought they did very good work,
00:30:07.540 especially on social media. They really held Kathleen Wynne's toes to the fire in Ontario. And I think
00:30:14.880 they deserve some credit for the success of Doug Ford. Hopefully, Aaron and his team can be a source
00:30:23.020 of the same common sense in British Columbia. I certainly enjoyed talking with him today, and I
00:30:27.700 hope you did too. And that footage, by the way, that we showed you of the crane, that was filmed
00:30:33.080 by Aaron's group. And we're grateful that he shared it with us. All right, that's it for now. Stay with
00:30:38.540 us. More ahead on The Rebel.
00:30:52.100 Welcome back. Well, Boris Johnson is a very interesting man. He used to be the bicycle-riding
00:30:58.180 mayor of London with that shock, that mop-top of yellow blonde hair. He's always been a little
00:31:04.260 bit eccentric and had a bit of a politically incorrect sense of humor, which was risky when
00:31:09.120 he was the foreign secretary until most recently under Theresa May, the British prime minister.
00:31:13.920 Some would say Boris Johnson will be the next prime minister of the United Kingdom. Well,
00:31:19.120 he made a comment, a joke in a recent column about something you're not supposed to joke about.
00:31:25.500 He compared women wearing the full-face obscuring niqab, he compared them to mailboxes, or as 1.00
00:31:34.100 they're called in the UK, letterboxes. And indeed, it's tough not to notice some sort of similarity. 0.83
00:31:41.220 Well, holy cow, did it hit the fan. There were calls for investigations. Rowan Atkinson, also known
00:31:48.400 as Mr. Bean, he defended the joke saying it was actually pretty funny. And even if it wasn't,
00:31:52.960 freedom of speech means you can make fun of religion. Boris Johnson wasn't bending the knee
00:31:59.160 to his critics. They were camped out at his home for hours. Take a look when he came out to meet
00:32:05.200 them and what he said.
00:32:08.000 I apologise for your comments.
00:32:09.500 Will you have a cup of tea?
00:32:10.400 Will you apologise for your comments?
00:32:11.500 Would you like a cup of tea?
00:32:12.500 Yeah, sure.
00:32:13.500 Have a cup of tea.
00:32:14.500 Thank you, thank you.
00:32:15.500 Do you regret your comments?
00:32:18.500 Do you regret your comments, sir?
00:32:20.500 Don't worry, have a cup of tea.
00:32:22.000 Thank you very much.
00:32:23.000 There you go.
00:32:24.000 There you go.
00:32:25.000 Do you regret your comments, sir?
00:32:26.000 I want you to have a cup of tea.
00:32:28.500 If I have a cup of tea, will you answer my question?
00:32:31.000 No, I'm here solely on a humanitarian mission,
00:32:34.500 because you've been here all day,
00:32:36.000 and you've been incredibly patient, and incredibly,
00:32:37.500 and I feel very sorry for you,
00:32:39.000 because I have nothing to say about this matter,
00:32:41.000 except to offer you some tea.
00:32:42.000 Okay.
00:32:43.000 Okay, go on.
00:32:44.000 Okay, thank you.
00:32:45.000 Well, he's not bowing to pressure,
00:32:47.500 offering his critics and said,
00:32:49.000 a cup of tea?
00:32:50.000 Well, should we talk about the burqa?
00:32:52.000 Is it okay to criticise it, or is that racist?
00:32:55.000 And by the way, when people say
00:32:57.000 it is a facet of our free society
00:33:00.000 that women are allowed to choose
00:33:02.000 to cover themselves up this way,
00:33:04.000 are they also allowed not to choose it?
00:33:06.000 Joining us now via Skype is our friend Yasmin Mohamed,
00:33:10.500 who at one point in her life had no choice
00:33:13.500 and was indeed compelled to wear the burqa.
00:33:16.500 Yasmin, how are you?
00:33:17.500 Nice to see you again.
00:33:18.500 Nice to see you, too, Ezra.
00:33:20.500 Thank you for having me.
00:33:21.500 It was a pleasure.
00:33:22.500 I remember our extended biographical interview
00:33:24.000 a couple of months ago.
00:33:25.000 That was a big hit with our viewers.
00:33:27.000 They were so fascinated by your story
00:33:29.000 and shocked that someone in Canada,
00:33:32.000 which we regard as such a liberal, open,
00:33:34.000 progressive democracy,
00:33:35.000 could have been basically imprisoned
00:33:37.000 at your home covering hijabs and burqas. 0.98
00:33:43.000 What was your life like?
00:33:44.500 And what part of it did the burqa play?
00:33:49.500 Well, it played a huge part.
00:33:53.000 So, once I was Islamically married
00:33:57.000 to the man that I was forced to marry,
00:34:00.000 I was told that I have to start wearing this naqab,
00:34:05.000 which is sometimes referred to as a burqa,
00:34:07.000 depending on from which part of the Muslim world you're from.
00:34:09.000 And at that time, everything had to be delivered from Saudi Arabia.
00:34:15.500 So, I had gloves delivered.
00:34:17.500 I had socks delivered.
00:34:18.500 I had a face veil delivered.
00:34:20.500 I was covered head to toe in black, top to bottom.
00:34:23.500 And what that does,
00:34:28.500 I describe it as a sensory deprivation chamber
00:34:32.500 because you can no longer see properly or hear properly
00:34:36.500 or feel properly.
00:34:37.500 You are erased as a human being.
00:34:41.500 Your individuality is gone.
00:34:43.000 I mean, we know that most of our communication is nonverbal.
00:34:47.000 So, you can no longer communicate effectively with people.
00:34:51.000 People don't see you as an individual or as a human being. 0.99
00:34:53.500 You're all of a sudden just a black blob. 0.99
00:34:56.000 And to go back to your comments about Boris Johnson, 0.99
00:35:00.000 in the Muslim community,
00:35:01.500 people are always calling women in naqab bats, tents, penguins,
00:35:07.000 ninjas, all of these analogies are made.
00:35:13.500 And that is within the Muslim community.
00:35:16.500 So, you know, for people to make jokes or to make these comparisons
00:35:21.500 is not so completely outside of the realm of reality.
00:35:25.500 I think that Boris Johnson's comments were actually quite benign compared to other things
00:35:32.000 that I've heard said about naqabis from Muslims.
00:35:35.000 It's important to note that naqab is not typical Muslim attire.
00:35:39.000 It is for extremists.
00:35:41.500 As you know, my ex was a jihadi, a member of Al Qaeda.
00:35:45.500 And that's why I was told that I have to wear the naqab.
00:35:48.500 It's not your typical Muslim people that are wearing the hijab or the naqab or the burqa. 0.98
00:35:54.500 You know, it was Geert Wilders, the Dutch political leader, who first put it to me.
00:36:00.000 He said, how are you going to make friends in Holland if you're wearing a naqab?
00:36:05.000 I mean, it would take great courage to approach something who is so completely obliterated from...
00:36:11.000 I mean, if you approach a stranger on the street, you can see if they're smiling or not.
00:36:15.000 You can see if they're looking away or not.
00:36:17.000 You can see if they're interested in making friends.
00:36:20.000 And he's right.
00:36:22.000 I think going up to someone who is wearing a one-woman sensory deprivation chamber, that's a very good way of putting it,
00:36:29.000 you're just not going to interact with your gentile neighbors. 0.96
00:36:33.000 And maybe that's part of the point of it.
00:36:35.000 It's not just so men don't see you.
00:36:37.000 It's so you don't make a bunch of girlfriends and start hanging out in mainstream society.
00:36:42.000 I'm guessing, when you wore a naqab, did any Canadian women come up to you and say,
00:36:49.000 Hi, how are you?
00:36:50.000 I can just imagine how terrifying or off-putting or uncomfortable it would be.
00:36:56.000 Well, that's exactly it.
00:36:57.000 You just end up becoming ignored because people don't know how to interact with you.
00:37:02.000 They don't know if I'm smiling, if I'm angry, if it's okay to approach me or not.
00:37:08.000 There are no clues for them.
00:37:10.000 I mean, the naqab I wore even covered my eyes.
00:37:13.000 So, yeah, you just, you essentially get erased.
00:37:16.000 And that's why I would describe myself as a ghost.
00:37:19.000 Because I'm walking around amongst human beings and I can see them, but they can't see me.
00:37:25.000 I was completely invisible.
00:37:27.000 Like a ghost.
00:37:28.000 Now, some people who are doctrinaire libertarians would say, well, it's a free country.
00:37:34.000 If someone wants to wear a mask, they can.
00:37:37.000 And by the way, there are various laws against masks in public places.
00:37:40.000 We don't allow people to go into banks wearing a mask.
00:37:43.000 You wouldn't let someone wearing a mask into a jewelry store, for example.
00:37:47.000 Putting that to detail aside, how voluntary is it?
00:37:53.000 I mean, I am sure there are some women who choose to do that. 1.00
00:37:57.000 Whether or not it's they're acting of their own free will or if they have sort of a Stockholm Syndrome.
00:38:02.000 How many women, in your experience, would be under some threat or duress to wear the naqab? 0.95
00:38:10.000 Either physical violence or just social marginalization or even, let's say, even a divorce, perhaps?
00:38:16.000 So, 100% of the women are under duress. 0.98
00:38:20.000 And the reason why they're under duress is because they believe that their God has told them that they have to wear this if they want to go to heaven and if they don't want to burn in hell.
00:38:32.000 So, even though it is not a human being that is threatening them with physical violence, they are doing it under threat of physical violence.
00:38:40.000 I read a survey from Paris a few years back that more than 70% of Muslims in Paris, Muslim women in Paris, felt a physical threat if they didn't wear a threat from another person.
00:38:56.000 It wasn't just like a religious commandment.
00:38:59.000 That they felt a duress or a threat from people.
00:39:03.000 Did you ever see or experience or hear any of that?
00:39:07.000 Was there any verbal insults or physical threats to you or other niqab wearers if you were to go out without one? 1.00
00:39:18.000 Yeah.
00:39:19.000 I mean, forget niqab. 1.00
00:39:21.000 That's true for people wearing hijab. 0.97
00:39:24.000 I mean, as you know, in Canada we had Aqsa Parvez who was 16 years old who was killed by her family for not wearing a hijab.
00:39:32.000 My mother threatened to kill me when she found out I wasn't wearing hijab.
00:39:36.000 So, yeah, that 70% number that you quoted doesn't surprise me at all.
00:39:43.000 There's definitely a threat.
00:39:45.000 Now, I very much appreciated our interview when we went into some depth in your biography.
00:39:50.000 Of course, you have a book called Confessions of an Ex-Muslim. 0.84
00:39:55.000 And you've talked about your past and your former husband.
00:40:00.000 Since that time, I've enjoyed following you on social media.
00:40:03.000 And it looks like you've been able to get your story out further and wider than before.
00:40:07.000 Tell us a little bit, especially for those who recall your earlier interview.
00:40:11.000 Tell us some of the places you've gone and people you've spoken to with your message.
00:40:17.000 Well, I've been very lucky to be one of the speakers for the Ayaan Hirsi Ali Foundation.
00:40:23.000 So, through her foundation, I've been able to speak at Harvard.
00:40:26.000 I've been able to speak at Stanford.
00:40:29.000 I went with Dave Rubin to Dartmouth University and spoke for the Ayn Rand Institute.
00:40:35.000 So, yeah, I've been very lucky to be invited by many different universities and institutions to come and speak about my story.
00:40:44.000 Well, that's impressive.
00:40:46.000 Harvard, Stanford, Dartmouth, those are first ranked universities, Ivy League in some cases.
00:40:50.000 Let me ask you, I mean, I found your story riveting.
00:40:54.000 I remember we spoke for some length and I've read other things you've written online.
00:41:00.000 Dave Rubin, he's a very excellent interviewer and clear thinker.
00:41:06.000 I really appreciate him.
00:41:07.000 And he comes from the left, which is interesting.
00:41:09.000 He would say he's a liberal, I think.
00:41:11.000 How have, I mean, the places you've mentioned also, especially Dartmouth and Harvard, are very feminist.
00:41:17.000 And part of me thinks a true feminist would appreciate your message of emancipation, but other feminists would be dominated by their orientalism or their otherism. 0.52
00:41:28.000 And they would say, oh, no, no, no.
00:41:30.000 This is a cryptic critique of Islam or not so cryptic in your case.
00:41:35.000 So you are just a tool of the right and we have to reject you.
00:41:39.000 I see that.
00:41:40.000 I see a lot of feminist women instantly become quiet in the face of this hijab, niqab issue. 1.00
00:41:46.000 How was the reception at these feminist institutions, Dartmouth and Harvard, when you presented yourself?
00:41:52.000 Well, luckily at Dartmouth and Harvard, both experiences were very positive.
00:41:58.000 In fact, at Harvard, I was invited by a conservative women's group called NEW, N-E-W. 1.00
00:42:07.000 And I can't remember what the acronym stands for, but I was very excited to be invited by them because they were women, actually.
00:42:17.000 So they were a conservative feminist group. 1.00
00:42:21.000 But there have been other universities that I've gone to where, unfortunately, the reception wasn't quite so positive.
00:42:27.000 I was at the University of Chicago in Champaign.
00:42:33.000 And the president of the student association there was most famous for posting an Instagram photo of herself and talking about how America was based on slavery and rape and et cetera, et cetera. 0.99
00:42:49.000 This was on July 4th.
00:42:51.000 And so my coming to their university was, you know, for a while we expected there to be some protests, but luckily that didn't happen.
00:43:02.000 But there was some pretty negative people in the crowd there.
00:43:09.000 So, you know, that's just one example.
00:43:12.000 I've most of the reception that I've had has been positive.
00:43:16.000 And that's because most of the groups that are inviting me are generally from the right wing.
00:43:20.000 The left wing want nothing to do with me, which is quite ironic because my message is all about liberty and all about freedom and, you know, individuality.
00:43:31.000 And these are things that you'd think that liberal people would be interested in hearing about.
00:43:37.000 Well, I tell you, if you're hanging out with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, you're with such a noble and courageous woman.
00:43:44.000 And I'm so delighted that you've connected with her.
00:43:46.000 I regard her as a heroine, and I know many people do.
00:43:50.000 Not enough people know about her.
00:43:51.000 I'm glad she's in America.
00:43:53.000 Of course, she is still in fear for her life.
00:43:56.000 Her former collaborator, Theo van Gogh, was murdered in part because of a movie he made about, called Submission, about the place of covered niqabis in Islam. 0.93
00:44:09.000 Terrifying.
00:44:10.000 Well, I'm so glad that you've had these successes and that you've been able to spread the word.
00:44:14.000 You're welcome on The Rebel anytime to tell us whatever message is on your mind.
00:44:17.000 If you've got a new project or a new book or a new campaign, consider us at your disposal.
00:44:22.000 I always find you very interesting, and I find you a source of hope and courage.
00:44:27.000 So thank you for being with us today.
00:44:29.000 Thank you so much, Ezra.
00:44:30.000 All right.
00:44:31.000 Well, it's our pleasure.
00:44:32.000 That's Yasmin Mohammed.
00:44:33.000 She's the author of Confessions of an Ex-Muslim.
00:44:36.000 And in fact, she herself used to wear, as you heard, a full face obscuring burqa.
00:44:41.000 Stay with us.
00:44:42.000 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:44:43.000 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:44:55.000 Hey, welcome back.
00:44:56.000 On my monologue yesterday on the anniversary of the Charlottesville protest and a Toronto Sun photographer getting assaulted by Antifa, Keith writes,
00:45:04.000 The so-called Antifa movement is nothing more than the results of years and years of propaganda rammed down children's throats by the Marxist-controlled educational system.
00:45:13.000 Unfortunately, as long as the great pretender rules the roost, it is going to continue.
00:45:17.000 Well, it'll continue past that.
00:45:18.000 I mean, Barack Obama is gone from the United States, but Antifa remains.
00:45:24.000 Yes, I think that decades of ideological conditioning in schools certainly have created a Petri dish in which this bacterium can flourish.
00:45:34.000 But I think it is money and professional organizers that makes it happen.
00:45:38.000 You can't just get hundreds, thousands of people to show up organically.
00:45:43.000 It doesn't happen in a spontaneous manner like that for things like this.
00:45:46.000 It's organized.
00:45:47.000 It's paid.
00:45:48.000 It's recruited.
00:45:49.000 It's lists.
00:45:50.000 And that's people who fund Occupy Wall Street, Idle No More, Black Lives Matter, Antifa.
00:45:57.000 It's, you know, the usual suspects.
00:45:59.000 George Soros being amongst the most generous of the funders.
00:46:02.000 Allen writes,
00:46:04.000 Remember how the Toronto police frog-marched that kid away from Trudeau for merely heckling him?
00:46:09.000 These cops get no respect from me.
00:46:11.000 They're complicit with the pantyfoot crowd who are seeking their own destruction. 1.00
00:46:14.000 Hey, what a great juxtaposition.
00:46:16.000 Thanks for that reminder.
00:46:17.000 That guy and David Menzies interviewed him.
00:46:20.000 Firstly, I thought it was a little bit inappropriate to be shouting at the prime minister at a memorial for the dead and wounded in Danforth Avenue.
00:46:30.000 Obviously, I have no time for Justin Trudeau, but it just didn't seem like the right time or moment.
00:46:35.000 But there was no laws being broken.
00:46:36.000 Clearly no laws being broken.
00:46:37.000 And yet that young heckler was taken away by cops.
00:46:40.000 An actual punch delivered to the face of a Toronto Sun journalist.
00:46:45.000 And the police didn't care.
00:46:46.000 Didn't care.
00:46:47.000 On my interview with Gavin McInnes about him getting banned from Twitter, Paul writes,
00:46:52.000 I was one of Gavin's Twitter followers.
00:46:54.000 I hope the lawsuits bring about great results.
00:46:57.000 Well, I hope there are lawsuits.
00:46:59.000 I don't think that has been determined yet.
00:47:02.000 And I mean, lawsuits are always expensive and slow and the lawyers win.
00:47:07.000 And at the end of the day, you know, these things can take years.
00:47:10.000 But I think that there's something important to a lawsuit.
00:47:14.000 First of all, it's a formal declaration that you're going to do something about something.
00:47:18.000 You're not just going to mutter.
00:47:19.000 You're going to go on the offense.
00:47:20.000 And even if you have a small chance, you still have a chance to win.
00:47:24.000 Second of all, I think what might be most interesting here is you will get documentary disclosure.
00:47:29.000 If you sue a place like Twitter for banning you, you'll have access to their relevant internal documents.
00:47:34.000 Memos, emails, whatever other records they have.
00:47:39.000 Who sent them a dossier putting together all the bad things they could about Gavin McInnes?
00:47:47.000 Who made the final decision?
00:47:49.000 What outside consultants, if any, put their finger on the scale?
00:47:53.000 I don't know.
00:47:54.000 None of us know.
00:47:55.000 It's so opaque.
00:47:56.000 That's one of the problems with corporate censorship is, unlike the government, there's no public process or procedure.
00:48:00.000 But a lawsuit could smoke that out.
00:48:02.000 I hope Gavin and his new bosses at CRTV who can afford it.
00:48:07.000 I hope they sue because I hope they win and I hope they bring back some freedom to the new public square that just happens to be owned by the new J.D. Rockefellers of the internet.
00:48:17.000 But also because I want to know what's going on.
00:48:19.000 I want the bright light of publicity shone on their murky dealings.
00:48:24.000 Well, that's our show for today.
00:48:26.000 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:48:32.000 We'll be right back.
00:48:33.000 We'll be right back.
00:48:34.000 Bye.