Rebel News Podcast - Media Party proposes BANNING competitors after survey shows lack of trust in Media Party

00:00:00.740 Hello, my Rebels. Today I look at a new study by Edelman Canada. That's a PR firm. And it

00:00:06.780 says that 52% of Canadians say journalists lie. Like not just have a bias, but actually

00:00:13.700 lie. It's incredible, though, because they go on to blame the people, not to blame the

00:00:23.220 journalists. What are you, crazy? I'll take you through it. That's ahead. Before we go 0.99

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00:00:57.380 Tonight, the media party discovers that people don't trust them, and they blame the people.

00:01:10.100 It's February 22nd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:15.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:19.060 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:23.380 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's

00:01:27.780 my bloody right to do so.

00:01:34.240 A new survey out by a PR and lobbying company called Edelman shows trust in the media, and

00:01:40.860 indeed all establishment institutions, is plummeting. Half of Canadians simply don't believe a word

00:01:47.180 the media says. But look at this headline in the Toronto Star about it. Epidemic of misinformation

00:01:53.480 is eroding trust in institutions, and media finds a new survey. Just stop there. I mean,

00:02:01.240 that's your whole story right there. The poll shows that people don't trust the media, and the headline

00:02:06.900 in Canada's largest newspaper is, it's the people who are wrong. It's misinformation that causes people

00:02:14.880 not to trust us. They would never for a second even think that they weren't trustworthy. No, no,

00:02:20.960 no. It's misinformation. And they threw in that word epidemic, because why not? I mean,

00:02:25.880 people seem to get scared when you say pandemic these days, but that would be too on the nose to

00:02:30.900 say pandemic, so let's just call it an epidemic. So people don't trust the media, and the media knows

00:02:37.600 why they don't have to engage in any introspection. The people are stupid and gullible. That's why they 1.00

00:02:44.340 don't trust the media. Otherwise, for sure they'd trust the media, and their distrust of the media

00:02:49.420 is not based on any good reasons. It's like a sickness. It's like an epidemic, really. They need

00:02:54.880 to be cured of it, because obviously the media hasn't done anything to warrant being distrusted.

00:03:00.500 Yeah, even if this headline shows exactly, it just, the headline alone, you don't have to read

00:03:05.360 anymore. It shows exactly why the media is so distrusted, isn't it? Information bankruptcy.

00:03:14.240 That was the rather bleak assessment offered this week by Lisa Kimmel, chair and CEO of Edelman

00:03:20.300 Canada, on the findings of the communication firm's 2021 trust barometer. Isn't that funny again?

00:03:27.240 We are in an actual bankruptcy in Canada. Trudeau's racking up a debt to equal every other debt,

00:03:34.360 every previous prime minister ever incurred combined, including to build a railway and fight two

00:03:40.200 world wars, but it's an information bankruptcy that they want to talk about. They'd never say Trudeau is

00:03:46.500 making us financially bankrupt. In Canada, trust in business rose to 61% in May 2020, but has since

00:03:55.020 declined to 56%. Trust in government shot to 70% in May, from 50%, and has since declined to 59%.

00:04:03.360 And trust in the media sits at 54% down from 58% last spring. So the beginning of the pandemic,

00:04:10.560 people looked to the institutions, to the government and the media for help, and they realized that the

00:04:15.120 government and the media were of no help and couldn't be trusted and were pretty much just in

00:04:18.960 it for themselves. I'd say that's not a misinformation pandemic. I'd say people are actually pretty

00:04:25.200 perceptive. Nearly half of those surveyed in Canada believe journalists are purposely trying to

00:04:31.880 mislead them by making statements they know are false or exaggerated. 52% think news outlets are

00:04:37.260 more concerned with supporting an ideology than informing the public. And 52% think the media is

00:04:42.540 not doing well at being objective and nonpartisan. My response is just 52% to 48% of people really

00:04:51.000 think the media isn't false, exaggerated, or biased. This next slide is my favorite.

00:04:56.840 Think back on the last year. Donald Trump was a serial liar who made a campaign against the media 0.94

00:05:02.640 a centerpiece of his presidency, denouncing news outlets as fake news and an enemy of the people. 0.98

00:05:08.500 There were the endless lies around the outcome of the U.S. election, and we've seen the science and

00:05:13.400 public health advice around COVID-19 falsely called into question. So Trump was a liar. Not Trudeau, 0.99

00:05:21.780 not Teresa Tam, not Patty Hajdu, not Doug Ford or John Tory or whoever. It was that evil Donald Trump. 0.96

00:05:28.320 He's the only liar, and he's the reason Canadians don't trust Canadian media. Hey guys, you're doing it 0.99

00:05:37.460 again. You're doing the thing that makes people not trust you anymore. You're lying and exaggerating

00:05:43.600 and running partisan errands for Trudeau again. I love how the Star uses that same language about

00:05:49.260 health and sickness and cleanliness and dirtiness. Only one in five Canadians have good information

00:05:56.180 hygiene. That's defined as engaging with news, avoiding information echo chambers, verifying

00:06:02.720 information, and not spreading information you haven't confirmed. So the CBC and the Toronto Star and

00:06:07.380 the media party, you're expected to believe that they are not an echo chamber, and that their

00:06:14.080 one point of view is not an outlier, and they are not just spinning for Trudeau. I'm serious.

00:06:22.020 When they say a news echo chamber, it's hard to believe, but they are not talking about themselves.

00:06:30.160 Hey, can I give you a reminder about who the Toronto Star is? Toronto Star, Canada's largest

00:06:34.680 circulation newspaper, is officially socialist in its orientation. It's hardwired right into its

00:06:40.520 corporate constitution, actually. They call it their Atkinson Principles, named after their socialist

00:06:45.940 publisher from about a century ago. You can find these Atkinson Principles very quickly on their

00:06:50.680 website. They're proud of it. You can see the newspaper has broken them down into six different

00:06:56.340 categories. I'll just quote from a couple of them. Here they're talking about social justice,

00:07:01.420 redistributing wealth. The Star publisher was certain that many of Canada's ills could be

00:07:07.760 resolved by a fairer redistribution of the nation's wealth. Yeah, they're talking about socialism and

00:07:13.920 just taking money and giving it. Here's an example. He favored public ownership of gas,

00:07:21.260 electric light, electric power, coal mines, oil wells, timber, pulp and paper, telephone,

00:07:26.820 telegraph, telegraph, radio, television, railways, airlines and streetcars. Got it. All right, that

00:07:32.040 explains a lot. The government should own all media, all communications, all factories, all utilities.

00:07:38.740 Got it. It checks out. The Toronto Star is keeping to that mission. And they're certainly leading by

00:07:44.740 example. I mean, the Star itself takes $110,000 per week, per week from Justin Trudeau. So the thing

00:07:51.880 about that, though, is that when a media company is owned by the government, people can sort of tell

00:07:56.820 that it no longer holds that government to account. At best, it's play fighting, controlled opposition,

00:08:01.920 as the kids say. Reading about the Atkinson principles, Atkinson styled himself as a gadfly

00:08:07.560 against the governments of the day. He was a gadfly from the left, of course, but he was a pain in the

00:08:12.120 neck for them. But whether you're right wing or left wing, if you are paid by the people you're

00:08:18.020 covering, you don't really cover them anymore, do you? Except maybe covering them with kisses,

00:08:21.860 as the Toronto Star does for Justin Trudeau. Such media like the CBC that has wholly been owned by the

00:08:31.020 government since the beginning, they try to give the simulation of being independent and accountability

00:08:35.540 oriented by going after, say, Donald Trump, even though Trump isn't the president anymore. They're still

00:08:41.340 talking about him even in this article. They won't go after Joe Biden in the same way, of course. Listen, all

00:08:46.640 politicians lie. They don't mention his lies, but mainly they don't go after Trudeau because Trudeau

00:08:51.400 gives the Toronto Star $110,000 a week. So even in this article, they're railing against Trump.

00:08:57.400 I'll be honest, if someone gave me $110,000 a week, I'd probably only have nice things to say about

00:09:01.560 them too. But do you see my point? This is why no one trusts them. Let's look at the 8 of them study

00:09:07.660 directly. Let me show you page 16. 49% of people say journalists and reporters are purposely trying

00:09:17.780 to mislead people by saying things they know are false or gross exaggerations. So that's not even

00:09:24.840 about bias. They say journalists are deliberately trying to trick people. That's not saying he is

00:09:30.000 left-wing or right-wing or he has a clear opinion or bias. That's saying they are tricksters. They are

00:09:36.180 liars. That's shocking. 52% say they're biased. Most news organizations are more concerned with 1.00

00:09:43.140 supporting an ideology or political position than with informing the public. And to that,

00:09:48.480 I say just 52%. And 52% say the media is not doing well at being objective and non-partisan.

00:09:54.780 And let me close with what I think is just incredible. Such a lack of self-awareness here.

00:09:58.900 Just a total lack of any hint of responsibility for this or any responsibility at all. On page 18,

00:10:05.420 there's a graph that shows that because some people have poor information hygiene, we talked

00:10:09.580 about this, they are less likely to want to be vaccinated. That's their test. And how do you

00:10:16.060 know that they have poor information hygiene? They're using that, oh, you're dirty. You haven't 0.93

00:10:20.020 been vaccinated. You have poor information hygiene too. Do you see the trickery here? Well, they know that

00:10:25.140 people who don't want to be vaccinated have poor information because they don't want to be

00:10:30.640 vaccinated. It's a loop. It's a logical circle. They're dumb because they don't want a vaccine.

00:10:36.960 They don't want a vaccine because they're dumb. A proof is a proof, as Chrétien used to say. 1.00

00:10:43.920 It is completely unthinkable. The thought has never crossed their mind. In the media party,

00:10:50.800 all of them, and I'd include the star in Adelman in that, that maybe people actually have real reasons

00:10:57.380 not to get the vaccine. And that, in fact, people worried about the vaccines might actually be

00:11:02.580 better informed than those who simply do whatever Teresa Tam or Justin Trudeau says to do this week,

00:11:08.620 which is likely different than what they said last week. I mean, according to the star and this study,

00:11:15.740 listening to Teresa Tam tell you to have a mask on during sex, that's good personal hygiene and good 1.00

00:11:23.520 information hygiene. That's being super smart. Thinking she's a kook, though, that's misinformation. 1.00

00:11:32.440 I mean, remember this? I think the public has to know this is one of the worst case scenarios in terms

00:11:38.560 of an infectious disease outbreak in that their cooperation is sought. If there are people who are

00:11:44.600 non-compliant, there are definitely laws and public health powers that can quarantine people in mandatory

00:11:53.720 settings. It's potential you could track people, put bracelets on their arms, have police and other

00:12:02.560 setups to ensure quarantine is undertaken. Yeah, if you're a bit worried about our experts,

00:12:09.240 if you're worried about these things, they call that misinformation. You know, I've been covering

00:12:14.060 protests in one form or another for most of my adult life, going back decades, actually. Most of the

00:12:19.320 protests on the left are full of people, I'm sorry, and it's my number one question I ask,

00:12:23.640 why are you here? And most people I've ever met at a left-wing protest, when you say, why are you here?

00:12:29.260 They can't tell you why they are there. They can't. I'm not being mean. I'm just an observation.

00:12:34.040 It's my number one question of protest. So why are you here? So what message do you have? And they don't

00:12:38.400 know. They just show up to be part of the club. Maybe someone at school said to come. Maybe, you know,

00:12:43.740 I mean, they know a few lines about global warming, hate the tar sands, whatever. They're

00:12:48.240 a rent-a-mob who can't articulate any position. I don't think they're deep information. I think

00:12:53.360 they're low information voters. You could say they have poor information hygiene if I was a person

00:12:57.540 on the left. But my observation is that anti-lockdown activists are actually the opposite.

00:13:04.880 They'll talk your ear off. They read much more than the average person does. And I'm not saying that

00:13:10.420 they're all correct. There is misinformation out there. But boy, I would stack the average

00:13:16.180 anti-lockdowners knowledge about things like PCR tests and false positives and herd immunity and the

00:13:23.800 risks of vaccines. I would stack their knowledge against the knowledge of the mainstream media

00:13:28.320 on those subjects any day. So maybe they have a real reason for not wanting the vaccine other than

00:13:34.820 just being dumb. I can think of some real reasons. If someone's under 40, the risk posed by the virus 0.99

00:13:40.660 is approaching zero. Whereas the risks of the vaccine themselves that were rushed to market and

00:13:46.580 haven't been put through the normal testing that medicines and vaccines do. There's lots of reasons

00:13:52.780 to be against a vaccine rushed to market promoted by Bill Gates. Besides, they're just stupid. 1.00

00:13:58.900 I saw this video from an anti-lockdown protest at Edmonton on the weekend. An anti-lockdowner 1.00

00:14:05.380 was being a bit rude towards some media party journalists. And the media party journalists,

00:14:11.200 boy, they complained about it. I mean, I'd say what comes around goes around a bit. The media party

00:14:15.520 called these specific protesters all kinds of names, including specifically calling them racist.

00:14:22.100 But look at this. It's from Bailey Nitti. If anyone is interested in what it was like being a

00:14:28.580 journalist at yesterday's protest, here's some raw footage. Okay, let's take a look. Let's watch.

00:14:34.900 We're a voice in particular, is it? Let's stop normalizing narcissists who are living the power 0.98

00:14:39.780 hell out. I was there for the riots that you caused with your actions. You caused this problem

00:14:45.140 because you're misreporting the truth. That's what's going on. You know that. Six feet. You won't move

00:14:50.460 back. Fake news. Fake news. Get out of here. You guys are disgusting. You're propaganda. Get out of here.

00:15:00.580 You're liars. You're liars. You're liars to the people. You're liars to the people. You know it. 1.00

00:15:07.060 If you don't know it, you're not doing your research. Yeah, put the camera on me. Great. What are you

00:15:11.420 going to edit? You're liars. Your fridge is full. You're liars. You're going to be held accountable 1.00

00:15:15.680 for your lies. You're going to be sued. You're going to be held accountable for all of your lies.

00:15:22.560 Complacent with communism, you prostitutes. 1.00

00:15:25.520 So a couple of guys who are clearly mad. The first guy in sunglasses said, you're here for the riots. 1.00

00:15:49.240 Did you catch that? He was referring to the black that all, the fact that all these media reports

00:15:54.880 said, racist, racist, racist are coming. So Black Lives Matter came to challenge the anti-lockdowners 0.93

00:16:00.800 because the media said the anti-lockdowners were racist. So he was calling out the media

00:16:06.140 for sensationalizing it, for misinformation, for smearing him and the others as racist. At least

00:16:12.600 that's what I gather. He called it disgusting propaganda and lies. He didn't swear. I don't 0.97

00:16:19.240 think he particularly shouted. They were outdoors and it sounded like there was some noise there.

00:16:23.340 The whole encounter with him lasted about 30 seconds. No swearing, no assaulting, no threatening,

00:16:30.260 no touching. And then another guy was angry, talking about a full fridge, obviously referring

00:16:37.080 to people who are unemployed or poor because of the lockdowns. I heard the word prostitutes

00:16:41.700 thrown in there by someone, which is something the media get called from time to time. It's

00:16:45.780 not friendly. It's an insult for sure. And that's it. About one whole minute of raw feedback from

00:16:54.880 people whose lives have been shattered by the lockdowns and the media that's cheering

00:17:00.640 the lockdown. So yeah, maybe it was a bit unfair and maybe it was a bit mean towards the journalists,

00:17:08.240 but you can see the reaction by the media party to grubby people talking back. They weren't swearing,

00:17:15.500 they weren't threatening, they certainly weren't assaulting anyone, as many of our conservative

00:17:19.160 reporters have been assaulted, some of them repeatedly. The media says the people are the problem.

00:17:26.940 You don't trust us? You must be misinformed. You say we're biased? How dare you? We insult you,

00:17:35.660 we call you racist and dumb, but you speak back and call us disgusting? How dare you? Yeah, 1.00

00:17:42.780 like I say, I'm shocked that only 52% of people call the media liars. Aren't you? Stay with us for more.

00:17:50.880 Mr. Garneau. Mr. Speaker, I abstain on behalf of the government of Canada. Mr. Garneau, abstention,

00:18:10.620 abstention. Mr. There you have it, Mark Garneau, a cabinet minister and actually a former leadership

00:18:16.060 rival to Justin Trudeau, bravely abstaining in the House of Commons on a motion to condemn the Chinese 0.97

00:18:22.760 Communist Party treatment of the Uyghur ethnicity, a Muslim group in Xinjiang province, to call that a

00:18:29.620 genocide. Well, Mark Garneau and the entirety of the cabinet bravely abstaining. They'll neither say it

00:18:36.440 was or it wasn't a genocide. They didn't have that same ambiguity when it comes to Canada being a

00:18:47.480 genocide. Here's a quick recap of Justin Trudeau not hesitating at all. He says it rather matter-of-factly

00:18:53.860 in just a few moments. It's no big deal. Yeah, sure, we engaged in genocide here.

00:18:59.020 We accept the findings of the commissioners that it was genocide. Yeah, of course. Canada commits 0.98

00:19:08.560 genocide. China? Well, we're not going to go there. Joining us now to talk about this is our

00:19:13.900 friend Spencer Fernando, the boss of spencerfernando.com. Great to see you again. Thanks for joining us today

00:19:19.120 from Winnipeg. You know, if you think it's a genocide, say so. If you don't think it's a genocide,

00:19:24.420 say so. Make your case each way. But to bravely run away is, I think, the most pitiful thing I've

00:19:31.020 seen from a pitiful parliament in a year. Yeah, I mean, you know, if this was a different

00:19:38.120 prime minister, the best they could say was, okay, we're trying to, you know, maintain some sort of

00:19:43.560 strategic ambiguity when we talk to China. Say, oh, well, the government didn't say you committed

00:19:47.700 genocide, just the House of Commons. But this isn't any prime minister. I mean, this is Justin Trudeau.

00:19:52.020 You know, we've all seen him when he said he admired China. It was the country he most admired.

00:19:57.460 So it just, you know what, it just doesn't add up for this government to say, oh, well,

00:20:02.500 we're just being smart about it. No, I mean, this is a guy who every chance he's had to kind of get

00:20:07.920 in line with public opinion on China, he avoids it every single time. You know, there's not really

00:20:12.300 any exceptions to that. And so it's very interesting to see liberal MPs, the vast majority of them voting

00:20:17.980 for the motion, after what I'm guessing was a bit of a lobbying effort from Trudeau internally to get

00:20:22.760 them to do otherwise. So there's some who are showing some courage today, which is good to see.

00:20:27.780 Yeah, you're talking about the backbenchers who just could not show their faces to their ridings,

00:20:33.500 backbenchers who have claimed to care about minorities and civil rights. It's bizarre to me. I mean,

00:20:39.360 just a week ago, the news came out that Justin Trudeau's government had approved $4.8 million

00:20:45.140 as a gift, a kind of foreign aid to Huawei, the Communist Party connected tech company.

00:20:52.560 Trudeau wasn't abstaining on that. He wasn't wishy-washy on giving $4.8 million in foreign aid,

00:21:00.100 essentially, to the world's largest economy. He's resolute on that. When the Canadian military

00:21:06.720 wanted to cool off joint training projects with China, he was furious with that. But to actually

00:21:12.940 call them, to call it genocide by its proper name, he won't even show up. I find that odd.

00:21:19.980 I just think that if you can't say the name of your foreign policy, if you can't say it,

00:21:31.160 if you're literally hiding from the House of Commons, that in itself is probably a sign that

00:21:36.240 you're doing it wrong, if you can't bear the consequences of it for or against, if you're

00:21:42.280 literally hiding under your desk, I think that's a sign you're off course. What's the payoff?

00:21:50.680 I just don't understand this as a kind of diplomacy. Almost two and a half years after the kidnapping of

00:21:57.280 the two Michaels, surely Trudeau knows this does not work.

00:22:02.540 Yeah. There's a few things I think about. One is that if you look back at Trudeau's history,

00:22:08.260 his father was very much obviously pro-communist and pro-China, a big fan of dictatorships,

00:22:14.360 communist dictatorships. So I think that a lot of that was instilled in Trudeau from a young age.

00:22:21.200 And I think he really can't break out of it. I think that's still his mindset.

00:22:23.660 I think at his core, he's much more of a, you know, pro-dictatorship or pro-China than he is

00:22:30.780 pro-Western civilization, for example, you know, pro-Canada, the Anglosphere, the US, the UK,

00:22:36.860 that history. And I think he just can't break out of it. And then I think there's some people who,

00:22:42.980 and it's not necessarily that they're bought off or anything, but I think there's some people who are

00:22:46.660 unable to adjust to how China's changed. You know, I think around 20, you know, 2005, 2010,

00:22:52.720 you know, you could be forgiven for thinking, well, China's probably going to, even though 0.83

00:22:57.040 the Communist Party will still be in charge, they're probably going to become a little more

00:23:00.520 democratic, a little more open. You know, it's going to be more like kind of a normal country.

00:23:04.280 It's going to be fine. And it just hasn't turned out that way. China's getting more and more 1.00

00:23:08.320 authoritarian, more bullying of their partners, the people in the region, their human rights abuses,

00:23:15.060 you know, obviously what's happening with the Uyghurs, the genocide there, it's getting worse and worse.

00:23:19.000 And I think people, some people just can't really accept what China's become and are just kind of

00:23:23.000 caught in some sort of fantasy world and just hope, oh, we just won't talk about it. It's all

00:23:26.640 going to go away. And of course, history shows that never works.

00:23:29.840 You know, one thing that comes to mind is Joe Biden. Of course, his family does a lot of business

00:23:34.360 with China. But in a recent town hall with CNN, Joe Biden made a kind of defense for China. I think

00:23:40.660 he had just spent two hours on the phone with Xi Jinping. And he said the most astonishing thing,

00:23:45.980 he said, China and its dictators have to be this way because it's expected of them. It's just who

00:23:53.320 they are culturally. And just like an American president has to be American, a Chinese. Here, 0.92

00:23:59.680 here's it in its own words. I think this was stunning. He basically said, yeah,

00:24:04.680 they say that's their culture. And who am I to disagree? Here's a clip of that.

00:24:09.560 You know, Chinese leaders, if you know anything about Chinese history,

00:24:12.640 it has always been the time when China has been victimized by the outer world is when they haven't 0.99

00:24:20.040 been unified at home. So the central to vastly overstated, the central principle of Xi Jinping

00:24:27.880 is that there must be a united, tightly controlled China. And he uses his rationale for the things he

00:24:35.160 does based on that. I point out to him, no American president can be sustained as a president

00:24:40.460 if he doesn't reflect the values of the United States. And so the idea, I'm not going to speak

00:24:45.620 out against what he's doing in Hong Kong, what he's doing with the Uyghurs in Western mountains of 1.00

00:24:53.100 China and Taiwan trying to end the one China policy by making it forceful. I said, and by the way,

00:25:01.460 he said he he gets it. Culturally, there are different norms at each country and they their leaders are

00:25:08.780 expected to follow. So Spencer, I think that some of it is Trudeau's own natural pro-China ideology.

00:25:16.040 And you're so right. He inherited from his dad. His brother shares that. His brother published his

00:25:21.840 last book on China and the publisher was the Chinese government. That's how tight his brother is.

00:25:27.660 But I think Joe Biden coming in with the pro-China point of view, I think Trudeau is going to completely

00:25:32.840 harmonize his China policy with that of Joe Biden. I think that's that's they're tracking each other

00:25:39.060 on this Uyghur issue. Yeah, we'll see. You know, what we've seen from Biden so far is a little bit

00:25:44.860 contradictory. On the one hand, I saw his comments in the town hall, which, yeah, it seemed kind of

00:25:50.120 almost a justification in a way, which in a way is kind of insulting to Chinese people, right? Like to say, 0.83

00:25:56.320 you know, it's like the same argument people used to make in the past, like, oh, you know, certain

00:25:59.620 cultures or countries just aren't compatible with democracy. And people said that about a lot of

00:26:03.880 European countries that have now been democracies for, you know, more than half a century. So I

00:26:08.900 think and just look at Taiwan, right? I mean, ethnically, the exact same as China. And you've

00:26:12.860 got a very functioning democracy with human rights, you know, just across, you know, the Taiwan

00:26:17.340 straight there. So I think it's it's important to to not fall into that idea that some place is just

00:26:23.520 all democracy just doesn't work. But, you know, the flip side is, you know, the Biden administration,

00:26:28.300 the Trump administration had declared China's actions a genocide. And one of Biden's top officials

00:26:33.140 was asked, well, does the Biden administration think that? And they said, yes, we stand by that

00:26:37.920 that call. So somewhat contradictory so far. But, you know, to be honest, even the Biden administration

00:26:43.680 has shown more courage than the Trudeau government on China so far. Now, I care about this issue because

00:26:51.480 I'm very interested in China and I see them as a global rival to the West. But I think some folks 0.99

00:26:56.840 don't know what the word Uyghur mean. It's a strange sounding word. It looks strange when you

00:27:03.220 read it. I don't think many people know Uyghurs. It's a small community. And when you explain it,

00:27:11.080 you know, it's a faraway place, faraway land. And yeah, there's a lot of tough things in China.

00:27:16.500 So on, I mean, I think that the way China is treating the Uyghurs is atrocious. And I think 0.93

00:27:25.100 there's a lot of evidence that they have prison camps, labor camps, there have been violence and

00:27:32.700 mass rape, for example. But to some Canadians, it is such an abstract, faraway pretend issue in terms

00:27:42.060 of their daily lives. Where, you know, is their work being shut down because of the lockdown?

00:27:47.600 Are they going to run out of pandemic benefits? When will their kids be allowed to go back to

00:27:53.420 school? Are we going to have to wear masks and be afraid all the time? Should I be worried about

00:27:58.200 not getting a vaccine? So part of me thinks that this is only for people who follow politics as a

00:28:03.820 hobby and that severely normal people who don't know where Xinjiang is, don't know what Uyghurs are. 0.91

00:28:10.520 It's actually in some ways a welcome distraction for Trudeau because he doesn't have to talk about

00:28:15.720 his vaccine failure. What do you think of that? Yeah, possibly. Although I think if you look at the

00:28:21.160 way the Liberal cabinet is responding by abstaining, it shows that they know this isn't good politically.

00:28:27.360 I mean, they couldn't just outright oppose it because they know they get a huge backlash.

00:28:31.140 Most Liberal MPs are voting, you know, voting for the motion, of course. And then I think this will

00:28:36.560 have long-term, you know, issues with Trudeau. I'm already seeing people on Twitter saying things

00:28:40.940 like, you know, Trudeau can't talk about Islamophobia or feminism or colonialism ever again

00:28:45.960 because every time he does, he's just going to be reminded, well, I guess you kind of took the

00:28:50.320 coward's way out when it came to talking about the Uyghurs, right? So I think this does hurt the

00:28:55.920 Liberal Party for sure, especially Trudeau, the divide between him, his cabinet, and then many Liberal

00:29:01.520 MPs. But yeah, it's not the biggest issue for most Canadians right now, for sure. And I think

00:29:06.780 if you look at the polling numbers, the Conservatives are still struggling. Aaron O'Toole is still

00:29:10.880 struggling. So yes, this is an issue. You have to take a strong stand, have to stand up for what's

00:29:15.800 right. But just from a political perspective, yeah, you're going to have to talk about the issues

00:29:20.680 that most people are thinking about. Yeah. I tell you, these are dark days in so many ways.

00:29:25.280 I hope that, you know, I mean, we sometimes lament the state of affairs in Canada, but I think we can

00:29:32.300 all thank our lucky stars that we're here and not in Xinjiang, as many parts of the world get darker.

00:29:38.760 Spencer Fernando, always a pleasure. Thanks for joining us today. I want to give your website one

00:29:43.280 more shout out. It's spencerfernando.com. My favorite thing is you are quick with the news. I often learn

00:29:51.140 about breaking news from you, even faster than I get it anywhere else, because you're quick on the

00:29:56.340 emails and on the Twitter. I don't know how you do it so quickly, but you've got, you're just spot on

00:30:01.600 every time. I want to encourage everyone watching, go to spencerfernando.com, follow him on Twitter,

00:30:06.880 sign up. I love the emails. And if you can chip in a few bucks, I got to tell you folks, you can count

00:30:12.440 the number of independent journalists who don't take the Trudeau bailout money. You can count those

00:30:17.280 people on one hand and Spencer's one of them. So if you've got a few extra bucks, the lad is

00:30:23.580 independent and it shows. So keep up the great work, Spencer. All right, take care. All right,

00:30:28.060 there you go. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:30:41.140 Hey, welcome back on my show Friday. Jay writes, the lockdowns are destroying the world. The governments

00:30:45.560 need to finally admit that the science was wrong. The virus is not deadly to the vast majority of

00:30:49.740 the population. Well, you say the lockdowns are destroying the world. Most of the world is not

00:30:54.800 locked down this way. It just isn't. It's, I think, the luxurious, wealthy countries of the West. And

00:31:02.000 again, not every place. I mean, Florida is practically open. It depends on your local politician,

00:31:07.040 which isn't science, is it? Jameson writes, the media has a lot of blame for this. They thrive on bad

00:31:13.360 news. As long as there is anger and fear, people will continually flock to the media.

00:31:17.300 You are so right. And, you know, the media feasted on Donald Trump for four years. They need something

00:31:21.980 else to be exhilarated and furious and shocked by, don't they? Bruce writes, the problem with Bill

00:31:31.280 Gates and other rich folks is they've got a God complex. They feel that their money makes them wiser

00:31:35.500 than the average person. Well, it's a few things. They, I mean, it is true they've achieved enormous

00:31:41.300 and amazing things. And I would trust Bill Gates about computer software. I sure would. And about,

00:31:48.460 you know, the things he is great at. But he's not great at everything. He's not a scientist. He's not

00:31:55.520 a doctor. He's not a climatologist. So someone who's great at software then think, well, I'm the best in

00:32:01.860 the world. Therefore, my opinions on other subjects are to be listened to. I think there is that God

00:32:08.440 complex. I think also when you're that rich and powerful, you're surrounded by yes men. It's the

00:32:15.240 emperor has no clothes. The emperor's new clothes. No one has the courage to say to the big boss,

00:32:22.560 you're actually naked because no one wants to get on his wrong side. And of course, finally,

00:32:29.300 there's just plain old money. You can buy your way anywhere. So I think that you see it with Bill

00:32:34.820 Gates. You see it with Mark Zuckerberg. You see it with George Soros. Elon Musk is now the richest man

00:32:40.720 in the world. So far, it seems like he lacks that God complex. He likes being a bit of a troublemaker,

00:32:46.680 which I prefer. That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rubble

00:32:52.300 World Headquarters, I hope. Good night. Keep fighting for free.

Rebel News Podcast - February 23, 2021

Media Party proposes BANNING competitors after survey shows lack of trust in Media Party

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